I hope you don't feel bad about your feelings of compassion. Feelings don't have to make sense. It only shows that you are a kind person with empathy. And it's your strength, not a weakness. Maybe the person made you feel like that, because they took advantage of your kind nature. I feel compassion for my narcissistic person too, while I also find her behaviors unfair and disturbing. But I still wish her the best. It's just my nature and I don't let myself get bitter because I would lose who I am. I let the feelings co-exist and it helped me move on and to let go. I also had to accept that sometimes things just end badly. I now believe that relationships should be sources of happiness, support and reciprocity. Not confusion, self doubt, guilt. Relationships should not hurt.
This is exactly why my ex-husband jumped into a new relationship after I divorced him. He couldn’t be alone and didn’t want to deal with the shame of losing me. I already know he’s blaming me for why the marriage fell apart. He’s likely playing the victim, saying I left him. Yes I left because he was abusive. He sure won’t tell people that he was abusive though. I had no kids with him so I was the one that got away.
They hate the fact they lost you bc they lost. They have to win. They treat relationships as competition. It’s all about competition. If they do feel guilty it’s bc they got caught. If they do feel bad, or guilty, it’s bc they get caught.
your comment gives me narc vibes. look at your comment again. do you really believe being a narc is a male specific thing? because statistics shows that women %wise are more narcs then men atm. what do u want?
Yes, I'm with you on that❤!! (Although congrats to those who have found great relationships!) I on the other hand know I need to work on myself - its not normal not knowing how badly I was being treated until the last 8 years of a 17 year marriage. So for now just learning to love me! Wish you all the best !!!❤
Lee is saying they sort-of feel it for a split second however this causes them shame and narcissists do not react well to shame, they DARVO the other person in order to avoid shame and guilt. They somehow think this makes guilt go away.
Be careful with that too. You tell them stuff like that and then they start to use therapy speak against you. Suddenly their actions and words match up but they're still lying all the time. They fucking LOVE deception.
He yelled at me for locking the door while I showered. Then flipped it around and said I'm treating him so horribly. I told him,"you've treated me worse than a dog for 8 years." He replied,"then fucking get out." He then goes on to act like nothing is wrong. I told him to stop being fake nice. It makes me sick.......
Oh My God. I don’t think I will ever “get” it. I am so sorry for any of us. This man broke my heart so badly but 3 weeks ago he just went too far for me. Only words and not the worst but hit me just the right way. Called me stupid three times in one text! Haven’t even physically seen him in over a year and a half but he had me still by daily texting and future faking. He was probably right. I am stupid but HE is not allowed to say that to me. Stupid for believing his bullshit! No contact for three weeks but I still doubt cutting it off. I know. Cutting what off? The promise of love and a future with him. Loser.
Exactly they don't feel bad about what they've done to you they feel bad because there good supply is gone then there are those who enjoy the pain they inflict onto you they live for inflicting that pain onto to you the definition of pure evil
2:12…. This really resonates with me. The problem is when WE (victim of the narcissist) believe we do DESERVE to be treated this way! It’s probably from our childhood trauma So we take them back and then the cycle starts over again 🤔
It took me a minute, but I also was able to walk away from a narcissistic relationship because of your videos. Not just walk away, but let go. Thank you.
Yes. Faith without works is dead. God made a way for me and I took it. It wasn't easy. I felt like a fugitive taking my car and my stuff when he went to work.
Maaaann... I was "grandfathered" into the rotating supply plan 🤦, little did I know. Consistency is hard for them, and co-parenting with them is draining and hurtful for the kids. 😮 Freed myself in 2020, but my kids have him for life. That's the hardest part, that we have to live with. Strength to ALL. 💪💙💯
No, they don't. :) As soon as they are old enough in the eyes of the court to refuse visitation, they can go no contact. But the narcissist can do a hige amount of damage. 😞
No. (That is just the answert). BUT: They feel bad when you catch them. (You know it is like you catch a fish - really it is).... The behaviour of those people is horrific - like little children. Instead of dealing with the shit - they try to turn the table and put everything on someone else. (For me personally that was just unbelievable). BUT: I am not stupid - I know exactly that he did know what he does (always)....
Verbatim from the ex; I screwed up, I lost my love, I lost my friend, I'm now beating up on myself, I I I me me I. Never once I hurt you, it was always I hurt. I hurt, period. I, me. It showed how much it meant when he went straight back to the very things lost me to begin with only now it was worse. I believed him, I took him back, he's off the hook and now he's angry cause he flagelated himself, beat himself up, cried, made himself look weak, and that was my fault but I took him back so I must be cool with it. On to the lightning round and now I gotta pay for that injury to his poor little ego. You did it dude. You were right, YOU did it. He once asked me could we just pretend things didn't go down like they did? I had no idea how literally he meant that at the time. Yer right, always at the center of that if they're feeling bad. And I WAS the one who got away. Never again.
Yes I know what u mean except my husband won't go see an therapist I've been seeing an therapist for years and I messed up and told him some things I've learned and he just threw them back in my face.
He got caught cheating……. Response was that I gave up…. I’ve been pushing him way by being repulsed by him and that I do things on purpose to make him mad and why do I do that? Why do I do things that I know piss him off……… When they say words can cut….. responses like that are the closest feeling you can get to words actually cutting you. It’s shattering to the core.
I moved from cal to South Carolina to get away from my x after 20 years even still talking to him for a year after I moved … Then I started watching your videos and it’s been over 3 years since I talked to him , he still trying to get ahold of me thank you
I don’t think he cares that I’m gone he discarded me after a year. This is not my first time having heartbreak I am turning this into serious motivation to take care of myself but I’m still very very hurt and sad. I still miss him sometimes
My ex narc told me that he thought everything between us was always fine. Ha ha! Yes, it was just wonderful, which is why I dumped you! These people are the least genuine humans out there. Find someone who cares about you or just care about yourself!!!!
Look for resources where you live. There is usually a place where battered women can go to for help. A shelter or somewhere to go. Here in New York, I work in a domestic violence shelter and they provide a lot of help. I wish you and your kids all the best.
Lee, I AM the one who got away. 31 yrs and going through a divorce from a covert narcissist. I've been deathly ill for a decade. Feeding tube and everything. I'm regaining my health and losing my marriage and can't be happier 😂
I really enjoy your content . As a borderline , I relate to a lot of what you say . Thank you for your insights, vulnerability and wishing you so much success on your healing journey ❤
It is true! The more I tolerated my ex narc friends nonsense, the more she had the nerve to take me for a fool and try normalize it. Supposedly I am even the jealous narc in her eyes 😂 I simply reprogrammed myself to not view her as someone important to me anymore and use my time and energy elsewhere while denying her seeing any activity from me. Couldn't care less what she thinks of me now
I was in relation for one and half year with my coworker. After break up i got knowledge about NPD, and it was shockingly same. After break up i went back to know what exactly happened. She registered a complaint in police that I am an abuser, I am harassing her from last one year. Hell, i didn't used any bad words she was like soulmate for me. I cant believe that she is saying those words against me. 😣😣😣😣 It was like shock to me. After getting knowledge i found the same things in her past relationships. I am out n safe now 🤗🤗🤗
Because Lee you know for yourself it’s not that easy to let go. They get you attached on purpose. So glad I’m almost fully detached. It feels great because this time I don’t feel bad my decision.
I really think mine regrets losing me. I have an acquaintance that her husband is his friend and I try not to talk to her about the issues, but the other day we spoke and she told me "I promised my husband I wouldn't get in it, but he is miserable if that makes you feel better". The last time I saw him was literally two weeks ago and I noticed he had lost weight, I have also lost 5 pounds, but she told me he has lost more weight and looks "terrible". I truly believe he does regrets everything, but I can't forgive him for humiliating me the way he did.
I know there are a lot of good women out there but I don't think he would find one that would support him the way I did. And I don't necessarily mean financially.
@ginawillis4 well, every relationship ends for a negative reason, and they also start of good. So, I can say at the beginning there was consistency of him taking me out on dates up until not long before I left. He used to listen to me most of the time when I would tell him something I didn't or did like and would put into action. It was towards the end that I think he knew I wasn't being the same towards him because of his verbal abuse, and that's when things spiraled down pretty fast. It's like he was trying to beat me to the punch. He wanted to have a plan b for when I broke it off.
@@ginawillis4 I also found out he hid his his social media from me from the very first day he met me. So, I don't even know if anything in that relationship was real.
I cant even have peace or happiness in my own home Bcuz my husband is a covert narcissist and o been married close to 15 years, but am JUST NOW at 40 years old learning about all of these things😢😮 I have no where to go to relax after work like most ppl etc etc etc
I had been separated from my narcissist husband about 5 months when he contacted me and said he needed to see me so he could tell me what he had done to me!!! I said i knew what he had done to me i lived it, so no need, such a sad empty person clutching at straws
I had to wait for coercive control laws to kick in for me to escape…. The laws changed, I enacted my plan….. I spent a week expressing my boundaries and needs waiting for the bad mood and threats to make false reports to police - I waited for him to make the call and walked out…. The pillar of community faced charges, lives under a DVO, had his approval to work with kids called into question due to the documented abuse and manipulation, was disciplined at work and every single May 4th he is forced to remember me on his favorite day of the year when the DVO renews…😂
So a friend of mine has a guy trying to make her believe he's more dangerous when he's silent and not it in her life. I'm sure it doesn't matter but I can't help but wonder of he's a step above narcissists... Just like with my parents and my own exes, nothing makes any logical sense. I left a LONG time ago but I haven't healed or broken the cycle. I'm pretty sure I've broken the curse but idk what life could possibly look like without this chaos. I think I've always believed I could "face my fears" "be the change I want to be" or any of those other platitudes and one day my life would piece together.... In THIS economy, the way society is formatted.... idk where how or when to focus my efforts. It's like I've broken the wheel so the pattern has changed but now I'm a stalled vehicle on the shoulder watching Frankensteined stolen vehicles fly by feeling justified in the harm they caused.
Ok so, i never once stayed friends with exes. My ex narc I i decided I would try. Bro. Tell me why, the instant we switched over to being "friends" he turned into a whole different demon!! I did *not* recognize that person AT ALL. Made it easy to cut him off for good. But you're absolutely right. If you give them any kind of grace, they triple down on their horrible behavior because at that point, to them you're asking for it.
Omg they do try and say that if you don't like it then leave, they make it out faults. I mean he has a point, they wouldn't feel bad. They just want the supply we continuously give them.
I need advice Lee. I went no contact with a guy I had a short relationship with and went no contact with no explanation because I figured out that he was a narcissist. Fast forward one year later I get the hoover text. I am at a conundrum now whether to respond because a part of me wants to have closure because I cut it off without any resolution to part ways in a dignified manner.
You don’t have to be narcissistic to understand this , many people can relate to losing friends because they keep going back to a toxic relationship . 4:51 after a while, You stop feeling bad for them because they keep allowing it and eventually you just have to separate yourself from them because you can’t allow them to be toxic around you anymore
This is complicated. I feel like my ex deserved me being mean and saying the things I did say. On the other hand I feel bad cause I miss what we had. I feel shame for the way I acted but I feel zero empthy for what he might have felt cause I think he deserved it at the same time I wish I didn’t act in a way that causes me shame.
Let me tell you,, the moment I understood who he was I cut him off but his hoovers made me decided to go back just for a mission,, after ma mission is done, I'll disappear in thin air, poor idiot,, he thinks am in love😂😂😂,, he'll learn never to mess with me
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Short answer: no. Long answer: Yes, they feel bad there were consequences. So, no.
Exactly what I was thinking. They feel bad for the potential of you leaving because of their actions. They don’t care how you feel
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Stop believing they think like you do.
They sure feel bad when their nonsense backfires all over them. 💥
I agree that once you leave stay gone. I unfortunately still have compassion for him, but I love myself more. It's been over a year No Contact.
You can love him best by depriving him of opportunities to hurt you.
They are miserable creatures, aren't they. 😔
I hope you don't feel bad about your feelings of compassion. Feelings don't have to make sense. It only shows that you are a kind person with empathy. And it's your strength, not a weakness. Maybe the person made you feel like that, because they took advantage of your kind nature. I feel compassion for my narcissistic person too, while I also find her behaviors unfair and disturbing. But I still wish her the best. It's just my nature and I don't let myself get bitter because I would lose who I am. I let the feelings co-exist and it helped me move on and to let go. I also had to accept that sometimes things just end badly. I now believe that relationships should be sources of happiness, support and reciprocity. Not confusion, self doubt, guilt. Relationships should not hurt.
Most don’t because they found a way to blame you.
That’s true.. they deflect the blame on you and come up with reasons/excuses to justify their actions
Yep. Everything they do, they think they're retaliating against something you did to them first. They're evil.
They don’t give a damn. They only feel it when they lose control over you. They don’t deserve nothing but misery
This is exactly why my ex-husband jumped into a new relationship after I divorced him. He couldn’t be alone and didn’t want to deal with the shame of losing me. I already know he’s blaming me for why the marriage fell apart. He’s likely playing the victim, saying I left him. Yes I left because he was abusive. He sure won’t tell people that he was abusive though. I had no kids with him so I was the one that got away.
Oh girl you are blessed. You can start anew
In a very very similar situation and I'm glad I'm the one that got away
Agree 💯 ❤️ I went through your same situation...PERIOD 😮
They hate the fact they lost you bc they lost. They have to win. They treat relationships as competition. It’s all about competition.
If they do feel guilty it’s bc they got caught. If they do feel bad, or guilty, it’s bc they get caught.
This is true. They are completely broken people.
Staying single is a blessing to a woman!
Being in a loving & healthy relationship is one too.
your comment gives me narc vibes. look at your comment again. do you really believe being a narc is a male specific thing? because statistics shows that women %wise are more narcs then men atm. what do u want?
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Yes, I'm with you on that❤!! (Although congrats to those who have found great relationships!) I on the other hand know I need to work on myself - its not normal not knowing how badly I was being treated until the last 8 years of a 17 year marriage. So for now just learning to love me! Wish you all the best !!!❤
Sharon you sound like a narcissist
I’m 10 days no contact! I’m feeling so empowered and listen to this….I’m Happy!!!
Good luck on your healing journey don't be scared to reach out to those you trust during this time, stay strong.
@@eddiethetired Thank you for your words of encouragement!
I’m on day 5 no contact with him 🙌🏾
No, they justify and believe that they are free to do what they want and justified in how they treat you. No guilt what so ever.
Lee is saying they sort-of feel it for a split second however this causes them shame and narcissists do not react well to shame, they DARVO the other person in order to avoid shame and guilt. They somehow think this makes guilt go away.
If they are true narcissists they don’t have the ability.
Exactly, they will find a way to blame you.
Yes always they shift the blame
They can regret losing me but i dont regret losing them
I use to say to my NEx before knowing it was narc., “why don’t your words match your action.” They don’t care like you think they do.
Be careful with that too. You tell them stuff like that and then they start to use therapy speak against you. Suddenly their actions and words match up but they're still lying all the time. They fucking LOVE deception.
They only feel bad when they got caught and you figured them out once you cut ties.
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One of my main problems is not being able to comprehend their mindsets. How can people be so horrible?
There really is no hope there!!
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He yelled at me for locking the door while I showered. Then flipped it around and said I'm treating him so horribly. I told him,"you've treated me worse than a dog for 8 years." He replied,"then fucking get out."
He then goes on to act like nothing is wrong. I told him to stop being fake nice. It makes me sick.......
Then he may ask you why you still with him… yes, your fault again
Sounds like my situation smh
I hope you left.
Oh My God. I don’t think I will ever “get” it. I am so sorry for any of us. This man broke my heart so badly but 3 weeks ago he just went too far for me. Only words and not the worst but hit me just the right way. Called me stupid three times in one text! Haven’t even physically seen him in over a year and a half but he had me still by daily texting and future faking. He was probably right. I am stupid but HE is not allowed to say that to me. Stupid for believing his bullshit! No contact for three weeks but I still doubt cutting it off. I know. Cutting what off? The promise of love and a future with him. Loser.
I got shouted out for eating a pack of crisps
Exactly they don't feel bad about what they've done to you they feel bad because there good supply is gone then there are those who enjoy the pain they inflict onto you they live for inflicting that pain onto to you the definition of pure evil
2:12…. This really resonates with me. The problem is when WE (victim of the narcissist) believe we do DESERVE to be treated this way!
It’s probably from our childhood trauma
So we take them back and then the cycle starts over again 🤔
It took me a minute, but I also was able to walk away from a narcissistic relationship because of your videos. Not just walk away, but let go. Thank you.
I thinks they dont have a heart at all😢
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Amen exactly 💯
Pure evil heart
They pretty much prove it when they kept up the abuse.. they don’t
Right!!
They only love the way you love them!
Yes. Faith without works is dead. God made a way for me and I took it. It wasn't easy. I felt like a fugitive taking my car and my stuff when he went to work.
Maaaann... I was "grandfathered" into the rotating supply plan 🤦, little did I know. Consistency is hard for them, and co-parenting with them is draining and hurtful for the kids. 😮 Freed myself in 2020, but my kids have him for life. That's the hardest part, that we have to live with. Strength to ALL. 💪💙💯
No, they don't. :) As soon as they are old enough in the eyes of the court to refuse visitation, they can go no contact.
But the narcissist can do a hige amount of damage. 😞
No. (That is just the answert). BUT: They feel bad when you catch them. (You know it is like you catch a fish - really it is).... The behaviour of those people is horrific - like little children. Instead of dealing with the shit - they try to turn the table and put everything on someone else. (For me personally that was just unbelievable). BUT: I am not stupid - I know exactly that he did know what he does (always)....
Verbatim from the ex; I screwed up, I lost my love, I lost my friend, I'm now beating up on myself, I I I me me I. Never once I hurt you, it was always I hurt. I hurt, period. I, me. It showed how much it meant when he went straight back to the very things lost me to begin with only now it was worse. I believed him, I took him back, he's off the hook and now he's angry cause he flagelated himself, beat himself up, cried, made himself look weak, and that was my fault but I took him back so I must be cool with it. On to the lightning round and now I gotta pay for that injury to his poor little ego. You did it dude. You were right, YOU did it.
He once asked me could we just pretend things didn't go down like they did? I had no idea how literally he meant that at the time. Yer right, always at the center of that if they're feeling bad. And I WAS the one who got away. Never again.
Lisa, when you leave don't say anything to him or anyone else that could tell him. That is how I got out safely.
He would go to therapist ever so often to just get information that he could use against me.
Yes I know what u mean except my husband won't go see an therapist I've been seeing an therapist for years and I messed up and told him some things I've learned and he just threw them back in my face.
Yes, they don't go to become better people. It's just another form of manipulation for them.
They only have the capacity to feel bad for themselves.
Again, please God remove this curse of narcissism from the planet PLEASE. This is an epidemic
He got caught cheating……. Response was that I gave up…. I’ve been pushing him way by being repulsed by him and that I do things on purpose to make him mad and why do I do that? Why do I do things that I know piss him off………
When they say words can cut…..
responses like that are the closest feeling you can get to words actually cutting you.
It’s shattering to the core.
I moved from cal to South Carolina to get away from my x after 20 years even still talking to him for a year after I moved … Then I started watching your videos and it’s been over 3 years since I talked to him , he still trying to get ahold of me thank you
I don’t think he cares that I’m gone he discarded me after a year. This is not my first time having heartbreak I am turning this into serious motivation to take care of myself but I’m still very very hurt and sad. I still miss him sometimes
My ex narc told me that he thought everything between us was always fine. Ha ha! Yes, it was just wonderful, which is why I dumped you! These people are the least genuine humans out there. Find someone who cares about you or just care about yourself!!!!
They don’t feel bad … they feel bad for what they lost.
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We can't get OUT!!!! If I had the money, I would leave!!!!!!!
Amen, yes I would too plus we have 4 kids together.
Look for resources where you live. There is usually a place where battered women can go to for help. A shelter or somewhere to go. Here in New York, I work in a domestic violence shelter and they provide a lot of help. I wish you and your kids all the best.
Look, sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do to feed our family. So. Just play the game too. Have fun while you're trapped.
Lee, I AM the one who got away. 31 yrs and going through a divorce from a covert narcissist. I've been deathly ill for a decade. Feeding tube and everything. I'm regaining my health and losing my marriage and can't be happier 😂
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Yeah my husband has shame and guilt but look theres NO TURNING back
Thank you for your raw honesty as a diagnosed narcissist.
For themselves??? Yes! All day! Otherwise, major phycho or sociopaths. Don't procreate with them if you can help it 😅
❤ ty for opening my eyes Lee ❤
I really enjoy your content . As a borderline , I relate to a lot of what you say . Thank you for your insights, vulnerability and wishing you so much success on your healing journey ❤
It is true!
The more I tolerated my ex narc friends nonsense, the more she had the nerve to take me for a fool and try normalize it. Supposedly I am even the jealous narc in her eyes 😂 I simply reprogrammed myself to not view her as someone important to me anymore and use my time and energy elsewhere while denying her seeing any activity from me. Couldn't care less what she thinks of me now
I was in relation for one and half year with my coworker. After break up i got knowledge about NPD, and it was shockingly same. After break up i went back to know what exactly happened. She registered a complaint in police that I am an abuser, I am harassing her from last one year. Hell, i didn't used any bad words she was like soulmate for me. I cant believe that she is saying those words against me. 😣😣😣😣
It was like shock to me. After getting knowledge i found the same things in her past relationships. I am out n safe now 🤗🤗🤗
My husband blew smoke in my face. I thought to myself "Am I going to stick around to find out what he'll do next?" I left him.
My NEx would lie and say he’s been through therapy for 11 years and I knew that was not true. But he would say it.
I think it depends on how far of level of narcissism they are on
Mine always told me i needed change. That she has been doing the work. But i dont ever see it bla bla. Yea i didnt see it and stayed and she left
Because Lee you know for yourself it’s not that easy to let go. They get you attached on purpose. So glad I’m almost fully detached. It feels great because this time I don’t feel bad my decision.
This is true my narc just said " if i lie and cheat on you all the time why did you come back?" Im gone
Yes! This is exactly what my mother said when I finally saw the abuse "I did the best I could". 😔
I really think mine regrets losing me. I have an acquaintance that her husband is his friend and I try not to talk to her about the issues, but the other day we spoke and she told me "I promised my husband I wouldn't get in it, but he is miserable if that makes you feel better". The last time I saw him was literally two weeks ago and I noticed he had lost weight, I have also lost 5 pounds, but she told me he has lost more weight and looks "terrible".
I truly believe he does regrets everything, but I can't forgive him for humiliating me the way he did.
I know there are a lot of good women out there but I don't think he would find one that would support him the way I did. And I don't necessarily mean financially.
I feel that what happened is unrepairable, and he knows that's where I stand, and that's why he regrets it.
"When have they been consistent with anything in your relationship?"
That right there!! ^ 🔥 BOOM!! ⚡️☄️
@ginawillis4 well, every relationship ends for a negative reason, and they also start of good. So, I can say at the beginning there was consistency of him taking me out on dates up until not long before I left. He used to listen to me most of the time when I would tell him something I didn't or did like and would put into action. It was towards the end that I think he knew I wasn't being the same towards him because of his verbal abuse, and that's when things spiraled down pretty fast. It's like he was trying to beat me to the punch. He wanted to have a plan b for when I broke it off.
@@ginawillis4 I also found out he hid his his social media from me from the very first day he met me. So, I don't even know if anything in that relationship was real.
I cant even have peace or happiness in my own home Bcuz my husband is a covert narcissist and o been married close to 15 years, but am JUST NOW at 40 years old learning about all of these things😢😮 I have no where to go to relax after work like most ppl etc etc etc
I had been separated from my narcissist husband about 5 months when he contacted me and said he needed to see me so he could tell me what he had done to me!!! I said i knew what he had done to me i lived it, so no need, such a sad empty person clutching at straws
My nex couldn't commit to a damn thing. It's amazing he keeps a job.
Agree with You Lee 💯👍🚩
Mine said after cheating me and getting confronted and i asked .. don't you feel guilty that you did this... and he said '*i have no regrets*'
I had to wait for coercive control laws to kick in for me to escape…. The laws changed, I enacted my plan….. I spent a week expressing my boundaries and needs waiting for the bad mood and threats to make false reports to police - I waited for him to make the call and walked out….
The pillar of community faced charges, lives under a DVO, had his approval to work with kids called into question due to the documented abuse and manipulation, was disciplined at work and every single May 4th he is forced to remember me on his favorite day of the year when the DVO renews…😂
So a friend of mine has a guy trying to make her believe he's more dangerous when he's silent and not it in her life. I'm sure it doesn't matter but I can't help but wonder of he's a step above narcissists...
Just like with my parents and my own exes, nothing makes any logical sense. I left a LONG time ago but I haven't healed or broken the cycle. I'm pretty sure I've broken the curse but idk what life could possibly look like without this chaos.
I think I've always believed I could "face my fears" "be the change I want to be" or any of those other platitudes and one day my life would piece together.... In THIS economy, the way society is formatted.... idk where how or when to focus my efforts. It's like I've broken the wheel so the pattern has changed but now I'm a stalled vehicle on the shoulder watching Frankensteined stolen vehicles fly by feeling justified in the harm they caused.
my ex was terrible one from one women to an other didnt care so went silent
She is a mad being!! Had to get out of dodge😢
The narcissist I was involved with did feel bad about loosing me he had a nervous breakdown when I left him
Mine would yell at me for 6-8hours straight. 10 years of that. It was my 10 years in hell journey.
They might hate that they lost you, but for what reasons??…🤔
The only feelings they have are for themselves
He said he kept slamming his hands over my mouth so I wouldn't call the cops and he'd lose his job
wow what?!?!
I love being single
It's the most peaceful thing ever. Not having to deal with these demons is the best.
@@Liz-wz8dh hell yes!
that shirt you have on is so nice.....I want one in every color!!!!!!!!!!!! looks metallic
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Otherwise doomed if you do . Doomed if you don’t. It’s like a psychopath telling you . I’m not accountable for my actions
Okaay burgundy shirt. My favorite color! ♥️
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Ok so, i never once stayed friends with exes. My ex narc I i decided I would try. Bro. Tell me why, the instant we switched over to being "friends" he turned into a whole different demon!! I did *not* recognize that person AT ALL. Made it easy to cut him off for good. But you're absolutely right. If you give them any kind of grace, they triple down on their horrible behavior because at that point, to them you're asking for it.
Of course they dont😂😂😂
I dont think so. They knew exactly what they are thinking and the firm decisions they choose especially if it is in their favor
Okay question ..whats the; definition of " feel bad"
Guilt? Shame? Regret? Remorse.
Or simply has a sadz.
hi Lee!!!!!!!!!! LUVU
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@MentalHealness does your support group include victims of a narcissist who was suppose to be your best friend?
So helpful!
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Narcissism is hard to identify so there are more out here than one knows.
🤔😏 OH yeah ‼️ very well received and most worthy as usual 😉 also most effectively articulated indeed ‼️😉👍
Sometimes I feel like I have narcissistic traits.
You can have toxic behaviors and not have full blown NPD. It's important to self reflect and work on ourselves to become better people.
Best of luck!
Omg they do try and say that if you don't like it then leave, they make it out faults. I mean he has a point, they wouldn't feel bad. They just want the supply we continuously give them.
I need advice Lee. I went no contact with a guy I had a short relationship with and went no contact with no explanation because I figured out that he was a narcissist. Fast forward one year later I get the hoover text. I am at a conundrum now whether to respond because a part of me wants to have closure because I cut it off without any resolution to part ways in a dignified manner.
Yep her Muma blame the father for how she turned out She never ever lived with her father.😮
You don’t have to be narcissistic to understand this , many people can relate to losing friends because they keep going back to a toxic relationship . 4:51 after a while, You stop feeling bad for them because they keep allowing it and eventually you just have to separate yourself from them because you can’t allow them to be toxic around you anymore
This is complicated. I feel like my ex deserved me being mean and saying the things I did say. On the other hand I feel bad cause I miss what we had. I feel shame for the way I acted but I feel zero empthy for what he might have felt cause I think he deserved it at the same time I wish I didn’t act in a way that causes me shame.
takes time to heal
The ultimate enbisol 😊
37 years 😢
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Not “slicing pounds” 🤭
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Lucky me
Let me tell you,, the moment I understood who he was I cut him off but his hoovers made me decided to go back just for a mission,, after ma mission is done, I'll disappear in thin air, poor idiot,, he thinks am in love😂😂😂,, he'll learn never to mess with me
Lee what if you asked the Narc if they are open to a open relationship. I feel fair exchange is not robbery. How would they take it??
very true
What if you can't go no contact because you have kids plus they have threatened you?
my ex dont care
I prayed u would come back! Yeah right lmaooo 😂😂😂
What is the remedy for Truma B? Thanks
the thruple lol...