What is the meaning of Jacob wrestling with God? | GotQuestions.org
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- Why and how did Jacob wrestle with God? In this video, we answer the question: “What is the meaning of Jacob wrestling with God?”.
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When Jacob was with strength and able to struggle with God to get him to bless him, God did not bless him and tried to leave when Jacob tried to force God to bless him. But when God disabled Jacob leaving him laying flat powerless and strengthless, that is when God blessed him.
What did he get blessed with?
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The heart is deceitful and wicked. If you knew I go face to faceiterally
Jacob doesn’t ask to be blessed until after God chopped his hip, so this is incorrect.
@@oceanetcetera8328 Jacob has been using his own human strength (an example is lying to his father to get the first born inheritance) to gain blessings from God. But God has already said that he loved Jacob and hate Esau even before Jacob was born. God clearly want Jacob to stop using his human flesh to grab and fight for God's favor and blessing. So when Jacob was helpless unable to grab and wrestle for favor and blessings, God blessed him. God is teaching Jacob to depend on him rather than on his human flesh.
I don’t know many good Christians who haven’t been “maimed by God.” The wonderful thing is that when God “touches us to cause us to walk with a limp,” He also becomes our “cane to lean upon.” And therefore we can go about our life singing, “Leaning on Jesus, Leaning on Jesus, safe and secure from all alarms, Leaning on Jesus, Leaning on Jesus, leaning on the Everlasting Arms!” Ha! I can now walk straighter and further, even with a limp, now that I’m leaning on Jesus! Thank You, LORD!
Yes and its a tough lesson to learn especially for someone as hard headed as myself... I will confess to you my brother in Christ that when times are good I find it easy to praise God but when the waves come and they seem endless can I grow impatient and sometimes get upset with the Lord, it is my weakness and I constantly pray for change in my life to just accept God's will for my life but during these last times the grip of fear has overcome me on several occasions... Please pray for me so that I can trust in the Lord with all my heart and lean not on my own understanding... I am sinful and need to move closer to the Lord Jesus
So powerful. Amen!
Amen!
Yo!! For real !! PRAISE THE LORD 🩷
Oh man. So my 2 yr old son, Jacob, was born with a physical disability. Long story short, his spine never finished developing so there's a strong possibility he will never be able to walk without assistance. Your comment brought me to happy tears, knowing that by leaning on Christ my son WILL walk straighter than any man. That gives me such peace 💙
May you bless me father and aid me in our current struggles in all the areas of my life. I lift up everything to you, may you protect me and guide me, Your will be done.
Thank you Father and I claim your promises.
In Jesus name, Amen.
Very interesting story, I feel that I don't fully comprehend it
im the same way, i was just reading this and i wanted to look into it more because i know theres so much to it that i didint grab the first time
@@s6nyiI’m also trying to figure it out 😅 unless it means like Jacob got humbled by God and now he will always lean and have ever lasting faith in God? Idk if I’m getting it
@@christianlittle9348I believe you are correct.
2 Corinthians 12, Paul quotes Jesus who said, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” God is perfect in every way, giving Him the power to make up for any weaknesses we have.
I am also learning this as well. It takes some getting used to as I have always tried to be the solver of my problems. Its a form of surrender, trust, and faith that I think many of us need to develop for a closer relationship with our Lord.
Grace be upon you my friend. In Jesus Christs mighty name!
God does not promise deliverance. He promises to be with us. This runs contrary to the prosperity teaching, Is which permeates our church and Our culture. We rest in God, not because of our circumstances, but because He is our Shield.
@@christianlittle9348This story is a radical change in jacob's character. He went from the trickster, to the one who at last trusted God for deliverance, rather than his own plans. A hard lesson for our self reliant culture.
I always interpreted it as God finding favor with a man with the heart to both seek him and buck him. It's obviously futile. But I think that God loved his heart and blessed him for it. It's similar to the feeling of wrestling with a young boy like your son and being proud of the fight in him.
Secondary note, I didn't recall the part about Esau swearing vengeance. I thought he was bound to his brother even after getting swindled by him.
Genesis 27:40. Esau can cast off the yoke anytime. I still don't recall the part where he swore vengeance.
@@Praise___YaH the only problem with that is EVERY external historical source proves that Jesus was crucified on a cross
I too sit in the middle of the forest next to a creek in a suit and tie, while working on my laptop.
Theres a lot of fractal meaning to this story.
This story, along with the rest of the prophets & martyrs, gives us a window to perceiving the silhouette of God. Take the best qualities of holy people of the old testament, compact them into a single person, that's Jesus, the language of creation itself.
Thank you. Excellent. ❤💔❤️
Amén 🙏 ❤
The name Jacob only means supplanter or one who takes by the heel. It doesn't necessarily have a bad connotation but it can as the case of Jacob stealing Esaus birthright
honestly how is Jacob the good guy in this story when he did that?
@@khankorpofficial because Esau literally gave it to him over some beans.
My name is Jacob, I’ve been trying to find the meaning behind it for a long time…
You have a blessed name my friend! Hope you live up to it and be blessed by YAHWEH also
Same here, why is it blessed Solomon?
Grab Jesus and never let go. He loves us all.
I believe we must recognize our own struggles with God and just give up and let God win. Our flesh is a vessel for God and God alone. I'm just now realizing this through fasting and prayer brother. Ps my names Jacob @@jacobm8396
Why do some say he wrestled with God, wrestled with an angel, and wrestled with a man
Yep
The Angel of the Lord, however has always had the same Authority as God, so it's seen as that the Angel of the Lord is actually the pre-incarnate Christ
People interpret it differently
Is it a literal wrestle or Jacob wrestling with his conscience over the wrongs he has done and the hurt hip was God giving Jacob something to think about that will stay with him ?
I have a question and I would like to see a video if you were up for it who exactly was Melchizedek?
No one can see God. God reveals Himself through dreams and visions only. The Bible clearly says Moses is the only exception. Therefore, Jacob did not wrestle with God. Jacob wrestled with an angel. Angel represented God but not God Himself. Jacob thought he wrestled with God. That was just his unilateral proclamation not confirmed by any other Bible verses. In Hosea 12:4, Jacob's opponent is described as "malakh", which means angel.
Moloch. According to Rashi, Jacob wrestled with and was named 'Israel' by the Archangel SAMAEL, who is SATAN, THE DEVIL.
The angel of the lord ia suspected to be Christ
So the angel also had the power to bless him? Jacob having seen angels ascending and descending heaven would make the mistake of saying he wrestled with a man? The follow up verse where he named the place Peniel for he has seen God face to face and his life was spared. You're saying despite all of this what he was wrestling with was an angel? Interesting.
@@dalefrancis9414 Very sentimental, ha ha ha ha ha... God is spirit.
I wonder what would a Rabbi have to say concerning the answer to this question. Thanks for sharing.
Matthew 23
8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers
@@schmuckpuppet4842 🥰 I don't call him Rabbi, I just see what is it that they have to say about the same scripture. The oracles were given to them.
@@anothersaint9759 If they are spiritually blinded and cannot see Jesus as the Messiah in the scripture (which means they do not have the Holy Spirit) why would you want their view of this?
In Hosea 12:4, Jacob's opponent is described as malakh, which means "angel": "Yes, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication to him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spoke with us;".
@@mitchellosmer1293 Genesis 32:26,28
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
If you don’t believe this then don’t you ever read the Torah and Gospel ever Again.
God can do whatever he want!!!
He can be a man . He can come in a man. He can appear and work anyway he wants !!!
He is a supreme Spirit and exist of himself !!!!!
COULD THIS HAVE ALL BEEN A DREAM & PERHAPS "THE TOUCH" WAS HIM WRESTLING HIMSELF IN HIS DREAM & HIM POPPING HIS OWN HIP OUT OF JOINT WHILE FLAILING AROUND IN HIS SLEEP, LEAVING HIM WITH A "THORN IN HIS SIDE" LITERALLY & SINCE IT ALL HAPPENED IN HIS CONSCIENCE HE NAMED THE PLACE PINEAL? STILL TRUE TO THE FACT, THAT, ALL THE WHILE, IT WAS GOD SENDING HIM THE MESSAGE THROUGH A DREAM OR VISION & TELLING HIM TO CHANGE HIS NAME ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER BLESSINGS HE BESTOWED UPON HIM?
In Hosea 12:4, Jacob's opponent is described as malakh, which means "angel": "Yes, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication to him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spoke with us;".
@@mitchellosmer1293 OK? MALAKH IS THE LORD, YET THAT DOES NOT, TELL ME WHETHER IT WAS A DREAM OR HANDS ON. & IF IT WAS A LITERAL FIGHT, HE WON BECAUSE GOD SHOWED FAVOR.
You have it all askewed in your "description" of Jacob. You have not done your due diligence.
Did he defeat God or did he surrender to him? Cause my Bible gives different versions. In the scripture Jacob wouldn’t release God until he blessed him. But in the notes at the bottom of the page the ”victory” was through crying out and begging for mercy. This clip kind of rides with the latter. And Tate doesn’t break while a psychologist he talked with suggested that maybe that’s what God wants him to do. So we have different guidelines/stories/versions/opinions on the matter 😩
Pray today ....God wants to hear from us worship him even on your knees in your quiet place . Praise the Lord. Pray 🙏 today.
Wait he was in the desert where did you guys get the river from
The man who wrestled with Jacob was not God. He could not overcome Jacob, he was afraid of the day breaking, he did not tell Jacob his name. The man changed Jacob’s name to Israel, but Jesus uses the name Jacob. The man Jacob wrestled was Satan…’resist the devil and he will flee from you.’ The man tried to flee, but Jacob would not let him go.
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Yep I remember them doing what they just did to me back then Nmb
It was Jesus Christ who Wrestled with Jacob If you pay close attention to the scriptures
I fight for Jacob
Hosea 12:4 in Other Translations
Brought to his knees, Jacob wept and prayed. God found him at Bethel. That's where he spoke with him. 4 Jacob struggled with the Angel and prevailed; he wept and sought His favor.
In Hosea 12:4, Jacob's opponent is described as malakh, which means "angel": "Yes, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication to him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spoke with us;".
Moloch. According to Rashi, Jacob wrestled with and was named 'Israel' by the Archangel SAMAEL, who is SATAN, THE DEVIL.
Read the next verse 12:5
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Hosea 12:4-6
New International Version
4 He struggled with the ANGEL and overcame him;
he wept and begged for his favor.
He found him at Bethel
and talked with him there-
5 the Lord God Almighty,
the Lord is his name!
6 But you must return to your God;
maintain love and justice,
and wait for your God always.
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That all says the God "talked " to him..Does not say God wrestled with him.
Verse 4-5 says an ANGEL talked to Jacob.
@@mitchellosmer1293 god’s intentions weren’t to end his life Jacob was a friend of god so why would he put him to death. And when did Jacob over power him ? From what I’ve read it’s seems more like god only literally wrestling Jacob. Not actually fighting or having some sort of real battle just wrestling and still even at that god overpowers him and dislocated his hip with just a simple touch. And after Jacob is blessed he says that he has survived seeing “God” face to face.
Yaa'kov
In Hebrew dose not mean "grabber" its bull.
Guys I still dnt get this the bible says no1 can see God & still live but wrestling with him you struggle to wrestle a weak man but God the maker guys🤔am just confused Moses says he saw the back but wrestling it's something else if you are afraid of wrestling Brock Lesner (God is on another level)
Jacob wrestled with a messenger of God, or an angel coming in the name of the LORD that appeared in the form of a man.
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How can a human wrestle god?
It doesn't make sense because it's a lie...
You don’t think God can make himself as powerful as a human?
@@iamfeelingkindacheesy386 that's like saying " you don't think a nuke can make itself as powerful as a party popper?"
@@Jesse-uv9fr no it is not
A nuke can’t do everything and anything
Terrible analogy
Breezy
But I wonder why would God come and permanently maime Jacob? Why give him a limp for the rest of his life?
Perhaps to remember his weakness, or to be a reminder that he wrestled with the living God. Sort of makes me think of Paul crying out to God to take the thorn away from him, but God saying His grace is made perfect in weakness.
@@ckizzy9401 so your "God" came to earth and wrestled with a man and lost the fight?
@@iR6s the way I’ve seen it explained based on the original Hebrew was that God fought Jacob at a level Jacob would be able to maintain (just like how a sensei does this instead of taking you down immediately so that you are able to learn), but when day had broken and still hadn’t stopped, God delivered that final blow. I think this was to show that no matter how hard he/we try, God is the one who will prevail in the end no matter what
When I hear your question, I remember when Jesus healed the blind man and told them why.
@@iR6s God came and wrestled with Jacob and won the fight that is why Jacob was limping. God did that.
So god incarnates multiple times?
This is more like a pre- incarnation
@@iamfeelingkindacheesy386 rabbis say it was an angel turns out
@@tookie36 idk even know anymore man
I would rather follow God with no answers than having all the answers without God
Wow, what a way to water down God’s word keep up the devil’s work
Running of the bulls.
God isnt a human and never turned into human
Did u miss the part about Jesus 😂
@@Hiddenplace414 life IS a moral competition all the contestants should be equal
This is a moronic interpretation treating god as an external entity this much is an outrageous lie come on you can do better than this
Genesis 32:26,28
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
If you don’t believe this then don’t you ever read the Torah and Gospel ever Again.
God can do whatever he want!!!
He can be a man . He can come in a man. He can appear and work anyway he wants !!!
He is a supreme Spirit and exist of himself !!!!!
This explains nothing, just sermonizes around the actual problem of God wrestling a human being.
Jacob is Israel.
He fight with angel not God. There is two types of angel, angel of God and angel of satan
You are deluded !!
Genesis 32:26,28
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
If you don’t believe this then don’t you ever read the Torah and Gospel ever Again.
God can do whatever he want!!!
He can be a man . He can come in a man. He can appear and work anyway he wants !!!
He is a supreme Spirit and exist of himself !!!!!
It was Angel that carried Gods name, not actually God.
It was Jesus
@@terryhenderson3424 sorry that’s not possible, jesus hadn’t been born yet.
@@cc3775 Oh goodness you have to be kidding. Jesus existed long before He was born as a man. Jesus is the Creator, all things were made through Him. Isaiah is filled with passages of Jesus speaking in the first person directly to us (Isaiah 49 for example) centuries before His Birth, There is ample evidence throughout scripture Jesus came down to the earth before He was born as a man.
@@ExperienceEric you have got to be kidding me!? Jesus didn’t create anything that was Yahweh alone. Men don’t exist prior to their birth.
@@cc3775 So you reject the Gospel of John and the entire NT, got it.
Making Vows are sins Ecclesiastes 5
What😂
How do people believe this nonsense? This is the true definition of blasphemy.
Genesis 32:26,28
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
If you don’t believe this then don’t you ever read the Torah and Gospel ever Again.
God can do whatever he want!!!
He can be a man . He can come in a man. He can appear and work anyway he wants !!!
He is a supreme Spirit and exist of himself !!!!!
I feel soory for u christians .. Give yourself a chance and read Quran out of knowledge and compare it to the bible .
I betu will change your mind
What a nonsense wrestling with god
Genesis 32:26,28
26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
If you don’t believe this then don’t you ever read the Torah and Gospel ever Again.
God can do whatever he want!!!
He can be a man . He can come in a man. He can appear and work anyway he wants !!!
He is a supreme Spirit and exist of himself !!!!!
Individual on our own accord absolutely but think this it the same God who spoke existence. Came into human form to be killed by man and rise again. This battle was done as a lesson on God's terms. Thats the difference, God didn't intend to kill him or destroy him he aimed to teach him a lesson. It's the context. God can choose instantaneous wrath in the same way he can choose forgiveness and compassion