Honda Crf 450 vs Honda Cr 250!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- I hop on my 2004 Honda crf 450 and Charlie rides my 1998 Honda cr250 as we see which bike is the fastest.
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250 sounds better, runs better, and you always got that amazing smell of the burning castor if you use that type of oil, but I have to admit today's 4 strokes are hella nice.
I love 2 strokes but 4 strokes definitely sound beefier and better
Castor😂😂😂😂😂 maybe castrol
For me growing up in the late 70's / early 80's there is just something wrong with a 4 stroke motocross bike,, just dont sound right.... Love the sound of the 2 stroke.... Funny how it takes about twice the size motor in a 4 stroke to keep up with the 2 stroke... Same goes for outboard boat motors....
Well it takes more strokes duh. Better power delivery, handling, and wayy more smooth.
Jakelols Gaming more strokes? You my friend, are dumb.
Ghost Squad duh, more strokes to complete an engine cycle. Thats why they call it a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. Dont call me dumb when i kmow exactly what im talking about. You obviously ride a small 4 stroke so i would expect u to know.
Jakelols Gaming I understand your point but you are confused because with that analogy the two stroke would have to be double the four stroke not the other way around
ViciousPillow73 well it isnt the other way around, thats why a 125 2 stroke is just a fast as a 250 four stroke. Because it has dpuble the power and doesnt need to double its cc to compete
That flying off your seat feeling is the same damn feeling I get when riding any damn 2 stroke LOL. I’m scared of them.
The 450 should be really snappy sounds very weak and it so slow
Brayden 825 I know it sounds like my xr70r put bike
Top speed the 4 strokes will always win. They are geared different. Drop the rear sprocket on the CR250 by 2 teeth or increase the front by 1 tooth and the race will be a lot closer. Also that CR250 cant be running at optimal performance because it should pull the front wheel off the ground on pavement in every gear.
bro lol 450r will smoke the shit out of a cr250
450r lifts on pavment every gear, put a 51 on the 450r no comparison
ROB BASS maybe that cr250. Not mine.
bro any cr250 even with big bore kit 300 would get smoked by 450r
you think honda a race bread company stopped making 2 strokes in 2004 because 4 strokes are slower, so
honda works back wards
lol bro honda had cr500 now the crf450r thats there killer now
you want to compare then compare you cr250 to crf250r
thats still faster stock for stock
ROB BASS look it up on TH-cam or other sites. That's not why they went 4 stroke. 4 stroke is cleaner. I will race any 450 with my 250 and on a track it is equal. Drag after 3rd gear the 450 will start to pull ahead. Show me a race with two good riders
450r are way lighter now and are 13 to 1 compression
fuel injection these are real fucken machines
your talking old 4 strokes and shit rider
I love your vids, keep up the good work
Everyone's an expert here 🤣
I've had both I miss my cr 250 more than my current 450
"all we do is ride mint bikes" says that while hes riding the most clapped out 450 ive ever seen
It was a joke dumbasses
Mr250 h
You should see mine, the grips are held on with barbed wire
Landre Porter it beat a 250 2 stroke it’s not clapped
Fucking idiot it has more compression than your dumbass Yamaha
Race starts at 5:30
Im a little late but thanks anyways.
Kenneth Hunt no problem
Preciate it Brutha
Nobody mess with them, they all pro😦😂
To be honest I dont believe no stock 450 is going to walk down a 250 stroke like that. I've raced, ridden both and have never seen anyone walk a 95+ strong running 2stroke down unless they are built. This is definitely an orchestrated video in my opinion. I've never seen a 250 or 450 that wouldn't lift the front wheel off the ground on the street. So either they are baby shifting, or both of these bike are very weak. My sons 80 will come up all the way to 3rd gear on the highway.
Well arent you a joke. The 450 beats the 500. You lot just cant handle that a 4stroke beats a 2stroke. Face facts & get over it. The stuff that gets typed is hilarious.
@@rodneyjones4890 Where in my comment did I say that a 450 can't beat a 250 2stroke?
@@leesbikelife2231 Hey hero, you watched the video & then commented with crap & you think you`re smarter than me ? Ah ha ha ha ha.
@@leesbikelife2231 Did i say that`s what you said ? You`re the one who cant handle the truth & makes up crap. They dont race 2strokes anymore & the 450 beats the 500 so get over it instead of typing crap. You seen the video & whinged with made up crap cause you cant handle the fact that 4strokes are faster.
@@rodneyjones4890 Your punctuation, and run on sentence needs a HERO 🤣🤣🤣. I said there's no way a STOCK 450, IS GO-ING TO WALK DOWN A 2-5-0 2 STR-OKE! READING IS FUN-DA-MEN-TAL.
I have a wr426f i want you to ride. That thing would pull your arms off bro
Same, i have a wr450 i modded the crap out of. Thing could litterally power wheelie in 5th gear, none of that clutch popping crap.
my opinion is that a 2 stroke 250 is always going to beat a 4 stroke 450 in the beginning but when it's far the 4 stroke wins
No way. How many 450 have you drag race. How fast a 450 is in a hole shot depends on the mapping. Map 3 it’s about 70% power add about 1/3 throttle. The acceleration on map 3 is ridiculous. I have CR250 and KX450.
@@SD-ir1vfI agree with the other commentor 2 strokes will be faster if not faster just as fast as double the cc 4 stroke until higher speeds (4 strokes have higher top speeds)
He said he was in 3rd gear I counted he got all the way to 5th damn liar
Fletcher Brockman yea I noticed that
The sons a britches
Jacob watch ever your name is that’s the brother
He was in 3rd at the pole dumbass
@@BenBeast-hr2uu go fuck yourself guppy
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good race and good video, really like seeing all these bikes especially the older ones
Why does the 450 sound like it's lacking in power?
Jets need to be cleaned or new jetting
Because it’s a four stroke we all know those are a absolute disgrace to man kind
@@christianupton3026 thats what im thinking its like 53hp to 59hp ofc the 2 strokes gone make it look like ass
Nice vid keep them up👌
The ticking on the 450 is caused by the decompression mechanism on the cam at low rpm
Your channel is so amazing. I really think yall deserve more. Love ur vids
You kicked it in sandals..... I'd do a compression test still.
Very nice bikes. Quick race to the hospital with the clothes you're wearing. Stay safe. Thumbs up.
love your channel i want to see you race the kx100 and the crf450
When it comes to doing to top end on a 4 stroke you have to deal with valves and other shit. It may be less maintenance but when it comes to doing the maintenance it's a lot harder. Remember there are 50% less moving parts in a 2 stroke engine then a 4 stroke engine.
Here before this video goes viral!!!
who else would still rather have a 250 two stroke over a 450?
2 stroke for me any day. Back in the day, I had my share including a Yamaha IT 490, a Honda CR480R, and a CR500. Oh yeah, for street I rode a Yamaha RD350.
I like 2 strokes but in smaller sizes like a 125 but id much rather take a crf450 over a cr
No wonder. He is driving a clapped out 450. And it's a fucking Honda. Even my 2002 Yamaha yz426f 4 stroke has over 1 horsepower more then that piece of shit.
As i use to say, ''Honda the gentle giant''. They are too slow.
SWeMX lol you’re funny. Honda’s are the best
SWeMX Honda’s aren’t slow at all
He swallows so hard in every video lol 😂 but great vidz keep it up !!👍🏼
That squeak you hear when giving it gas is the timing chain it's nothing to worry about really a lot of 4 strokes do it nice video
That 450 sounds like SHIIIIIIT😂
Love all Honda dirt bikes, awesome.
I feel like the older brother is somewhat of a jerk
and a pussy. "its fast . i dont want to do that again. its sketchy."
North West Enduro GOPRO have you ever been over 65 on a dirt bike? It’s crazy
my 450 does 85 and I'll ride a wheelie all the way to the top of 5th gear. You're a pussy is 60 miles per hour scares you want to bike. Don't ever get a liter bike 200 miles per hour might scare you to death. Damn pansies
All i need foe my bike is a thumb throttle but its very hard to get it over here in the bahamas...hope you guys couldhelp me out and ill probably fo a shoutout to your channel....love what you guys doing man
It's the back chain, my 03 crf 450 does the same thing when I'm in a higher gear and low rpm's. nothing to worry about
Maison Bias my 03 ktm 200exc does the same thing when your putting in a high gear
y'all are awesome
Hey just a tip. When kicking the 450 do one compression kick and then one hard kick and it will start easy. And being that the bike is backfiring it most likely needs the carbs rejetted because of the full system fmf
That bike runs lean as fuck
Makes me miss my CR480R. It was a 4 stroke killer!
do a top speed test for the crf450 plz
Do a top speed on the 450!!!
"Cr500's aren't that fast" 2vintage 2017. Wtf are you smoking?
Matthew Trent aren't that much faster than a cr250... Watch the vid
2vintage I did "watch the vid" how about you learn your bikes. Cr500's commonly put 60+hp at the wheels. Cr250's put down mid 40's if tuned correctly. Look at some dyno graphs smart one. The fact that a 250 gets through gears faster is because it's a short ratio transmission, cr500's have wide ratio transmissions as they are commonly used as desert bikes. Now I'm gonna assume you probably don't even know the difference between those. The 250's gears are shorter and set closer together, so it obviously gets through gears faster. However, that doesn't mean it's a faster bike, it just means it's gears are closer and shorter. Back to the power argument, the cr500 not only makes more power and has a better power curve, it makes a lot more torque. Now I'm gonna give you some seriously friendly advice, do your homework before you comment on something so you don't look like a jackass, we've all don't it including me. But if we know are stuff, it happens a lot less.
Oliver Lewis 100% agree. I'm not mad that he doesn't know things, it's just that he's been told numerous times and still doesn't correct his mistakes... and yea, big bore 2 strokes rock, I'd love to try out a maico, they're like 700cc 2 strokes.
Matthew Trent calm yourself down bud.
Mathew Trent Oliver Lewis W..T..F? before you guys start googling stuff #1 that's NOT a cr 500 it's a cr 450cc it's built for 1 purpose- MOTOCROSS racing #2Suzuki produced the rm500 for 1yr it was 2stroke&air cooled purposely built for mx before your mom was born #3ALL mx bike are built with close ratio transmissions. before they murdered the open class the only 450 Honda produced a was air cooled biggest pos next to the tm 40 ever built mx bikes up to 500cc, Yamaha and Suzuki were done. Yamaha did make a VERY short lived 2t 500cc it came with a slightly wider tranny so it wasn't purposely built for mx. mx by then kx cr's 500cc freaks were already being converted to desert/distant bikes with front/rear sprockets. sales skyrocketed finding untapped market for Honda Kawasaki. 250cc became top class. OF the big 4 Yamaha started playing with 4t against 2t. 4strokes had such disadvantage they needed up to 450cc to be competitive. hard enduro- romaniacs etc got hot that's when yzwr's and began. his 450 has a close ratio built for mx.
Who likes there own comment to get it started???
I always like my own comments beacause i hope that other also will give it a like
Me
Hey this may be a dumb question but what is all that popping noise you hear on the 450
Sounds like it’s bout to blow the internals out the muffler 😂
“All we do is ride mint bikes”🤣
my 06 CRF450R makes the same noise. nothing to worry about. its the chain hitting off of the the chain guide you showed, or the swingarm. people just don't know 450's have so much damn power their gonna make noise
Hey dope vid
gona regret wearing shorts after his taste of asphalt
Wassup nice bikes
She's a fast little guy that's for sure😂😂
4 stroke is it a guy or a she I’m confused
do you think its fast? i wasnt sure .....
2 stroke gangggg👌
Miss riding a klx 400, topped at 92mph
Seems that 2 strokes have really good acceleration
You're a better driver than your brother Charlie
couple more years ago swinging that 250 around. and your big brother won't know where U came from
Nice
That 450 is totally stuffed mate, they are both soooooo fast its unbelievable.
U
sing your whole hand to pull the clutch?
the 450 has 5 gears where the 250 has 6... the 2 stroke has the extra gear because of its ability to rev up and go through the gears quicker... great vid man keep up the good work!
Both have 5...
Max Yopp excuse me?
would you like me to repeat it
Max Yopp I would like you to explain how exactly I'm autistic.
I have a cr250 2 stroke they have 5 gears not 6
good race fellas but i would most definitely be taking a look at those bikes. My 06 250R carried the front wheel into 3rd on the stock pipe and i weigh 260lbs. I was giving healthy 450's a good run for their money but definitely was not gapping them.....but im not on a stock setup any more ;)
I understand man, the go pro makes it look like you going like 10mph when you're doing like 40. And then we have the butthurt people thinking that there crf 50 can smoke Chucks kx 100. Yeah you can't get away from haters not even with 4 subscribers *cough cough* me. Anyway's great video man I know this comment was all over the place.
Luke Wynn their not there
Its called a decompression cam on the 450
I don’t t think it’s jetting, backfiring is a clear indication of it needing a valve shimming
Guy that buys old ass clapped bikes: " all we do is ride mint bikes "
that 450 backfires like crazy
What happened to the CRF on the way out?
I'm still gonna send it
Adam Folmar
Best comment 👍🏻
with how long it took for that bike to start, even with you edit when you first started it up, a four stroke dirtbike in good health will start 1-2 kicks cold no matter how long it sits, that bike does not.
also the early honda's ( before 09) were known for having top end issues, take the valve cover off and at least inspect everything, it atleast needs a new timing chain, which should be done every other season at least.
I’m late and all.. but screw these negative people y’all keep on keeping on good clean fun!!
I have a 2007 yz250f it pops a lot on deceleration I have tried the jetting and a few other things but can't get it to stop any suggestions?
Good race the 450 is a nice bike but I love 250's more
You need to tighten the crf’s valves
The only reason why the CRF 450 wins is it can go faster...I mean its top speed is higher than the CR 250's...but it was an interesting video! ;)
that CRF sounds more like a hairdryer #clapped
I think you should post more videos of you too riding on a track doesn’t matter what haters say it’s what you want and you should I reacon you’ll get more subs and views from it
do a top speed test!
It's all about the gearing.
My 08 crf450 I can not push the kicker down with my hand not at all cold but once the engine is warmed up I can almost push it with my hand but it's so snappy and fast so fun
Anyone else getting these god awful Pop Tart Ads?
Doesn’t count if they don’t rev out the 2 stroke what’ was that?
I'm a 2 stroke guy now after all the 4 stroke rebuild prices but my 05 yz450f smoked the shit out of my brothers 2001 cr250 honda in a straight line, and he used to race motocross.
“Yah dude this bikes deffinately faster -but where not gonna do that again” 😭
You guys need to race ur bikes in the dirt that's what we want to see. Thank you
that crf should have way more compression
Yup
Lol I was told it was bad that I could turn my 250 over with my hand with all my weight on it😂 they didn’t even try it looked like
I just got one for my 15th birthday (my first bike) and ive only been able to start it 2 times and stalled it both times trina go becaus im to scared to give it power
It most likely has longer gearing
Not s hate comment but I think your valves need to be checked it shouldn't pop like that after getting on the gas
How tall is Charlie?
Why not compare same engine size?
You should get a cr500 next
Crf has compression releif when turning under few hundred rpm. Still say u need to try crf 450 with the 04 trx HRC cam u wont belief how much torque it makes just by open up sirbox some adding cam and removing exhaust restrictor. I road stock trx 04 and the newer model and still nothing vomes vlose to the 04 trx hrc kitted torque. Ktm 525 is about only thing feels that powerful.
Crf450 vs cr 500 vs cr250 vedeo?
How tall are you and are 450 even that bed compared to to250
Get a banshee they are fast as hell 👍🏻
I know you posted that comment 2 yrs ago but he already has one👍
my crf450r has chain slap like that too
How tall is charlie
Maybe the 250 was geared for a short, tight track but it should have beat the 4 stroke.
No
U need the valves adjusted that's what's ticking
It is not the bike it is the rider
5:38 for the race 👍
that idle is really high on the 450
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Why do these bikes look so small in videos