12ga. MT Round Ball vs ARMY HELMET and more!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we test out the MT Round Ball from Goodell Shotshell Co. Normally lead round balls are a challenge to keep accurate because they tend to deform badly during acceleration. I had to try mitigate deformation using household materials.
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This is how TH-cam should be. Learn something an be happy about it. Officer Greg's great shooting an Jeff's word play an great content = 10/10 I've been bad sick this made my day. Take care Jeff an Officer Greg.
Hope ya get to feeling better, bro. I'm just getting over my own little dance with that Omicron bitch, and I'm SO glad to have her in the rear-view mirror where she belongs.
I pray you find wellness.
thank you
Well this design & it’s accuracy probably shouldn’t be a surprise. Remington’s original round slug from back in the 1960s was called a punkin ball at least among hunters and they flew good. I can’t remember if it had any raised groves but don’t think so, I think they were just a round 1oz ball of lead but they did sit in a plastic shot cup that exactly matched the diameter of the lead ball. We had reloading equipment for skeet shooting and used to play around with all kinds of projectiles and powder charges.
@@taofledermaus Jeff if you use a cut down metal shell that's been cleaned of all gunpowder and has no primer, you could put the cut down metal shell onto a heat source to dry the toilet paper wad faster. Just make sure it's been cleaned of all gunpowder and it's primer less for safety.
just so you know - I don't know about everyone else but for me I like the lead plate because it gives a (somewhat) consistent reading on how much penetration the rounds have and how much power they have. most things go right through ballistics gel, so you can't really compare. but the lead plate gives some cool results
Its awesome seeing the lead fragments shoot out from the plate when its hit as well. So satisfying
it reminds me of Terminator 2, when the T1000 gets shot
Hi Jeff , another great video as always . I think the reason the lead plate is So popular is it reminds us of Danny (RIP) and helps maintain his memory and all the great Videos You have all collaborated on . Looking forward to the next one . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
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Rest well Danny
You guys were on fire in this one.
lol thanks
That. Bear. Is on Fiiiiiirrre!
Flaming fire.
In other news, half of central California burned down due to the actions of an unidentified law enforcement officer
I think the best part about these videos isn’t the cinematics like they used to be more so. These videos are just the truth of how things work and the specifics behind all of it. Even if you aren’t a gun guy, this is just incredible things to learn from. Thanks Jeff, OG, Danny and the rest of the many talented crew for the best content on the internet. We look forward to many more in the years to come.
thank you!
"It went high and left... California ballistics..."
Undereated joke right there, OG. 🤣
"It went high and left, California Ballistics"
Officer Greg always has the quips, dude cracks me up
The subtle "high and left...California Balistics" comment from Greg 🤣🤣🤣
Love the content and the technical side of it. You always get a 👍 I'd give 2 if you tube would allow. I love the lead plate because I seem to be able to remember past damage better and it proves that you can't always judge what will go through but more because it reminds me of Danny!
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More flaming targets please
Nice watching this all together. Have a good one, folks.
Thanks for the content, guys. Always appreciate your antics. 🤙🏾
You guys are great! Informative, engaging, and funny as well! Thank you Tau and O.G.!
thanks
Jeff, I have never got mad when you guys don't show the lead plate. I am happy with whatever you do, so my panties are NOT in a wad on my end🤣
This is the only shooting channel I watch consistently. Mostly because it isn’t just gratuitous, or just about performance. Its more physics related. Its obvious that is what Jeff is in it for. Love it.
Thanks for the kind words!
Nice shooting O.G.! Good idea Jeff with the 🔥. I can't get enough of the lead plate! 👍🏻🇺🇲
Never seen fire in slow mo,so just with that I was very intrigued. Great shots guys!
thank you
Just love these videos of different slugs and other projectiles! Also really like when Jeff talks about and shows how the shells are made, just really interresting and educational!
Keep up the good work, cheers from Sweden!
thanks!
Love it when you guys mix up the targets, great stuff
Great support for the projectile shows how much it can affect the shot by a huge margin. Your quick thinking of a support for this round really showed that.
This was fantastic, its always neat to see new concepts as well as you applying your knowledge with wads and shell design.
The time-tested rule of thumb remains true: EVERYTHING is better with rifling! Also, this is the most ingenious use for toilet paper in field-expedient engineering that I have ever seen. Very impressive, and a resulting product that is high enough in quality that you could sell it as a handloading retrofit component for this round; turns something that's a quirky novelty into a genuinely impressive slug; one could deer hunt with one of your handloads.
thanks!
I really liked the technical detail at the end, the thinking process behind the load of the bullet, 10/10. May I suggest that maybe you could also include your thoughts as to what type of barrell would be suitable to use with the round and why you think it would be suitable. Much love from the Pacific 💯
Oh Jeff. Thanks for another good one. The burning theme was cheesey but I understand your trying something different. I really appreciate you going back to your roots by explaining the how and why. Data and information are almost as important as the testing.
Another educational video by Jeff and OG. I learned a lot. Stuff I've forgotten has come back. Poor Brandon. His head has to be hurting.😙😗
Fun seeing so many watch this live! Have a great week fellas!
The lead plate is just such a satisfying and enjoyable target to see shot from a spectator point of view, specifically in slow motion.
It has also been a featured staple for so long and for so many different rounds that it makes a great comparison. That's why people love the lead plate.
OMG YOU ALMOST TOOK OUT THAT RED/WHITE TOWER ZOMG!
😂 gotta love the 1 minute wonders out there
That was awesome! Cool flames, excellent accuracy, decent penetration.
I think I prefer this format having all the details at the end.
Thanks Jeff and Officer Greg for the awesome vid!!!
Well done, gentlemen! Informative and entertaining, just the way I like it. I didn't expect that ball to rip through that helmet AND Doug's bean all at once. That was spectacular! Nice work on the wad, Jeff. Good to see you guys, as always. And thank you for contributing to moving the coasts closer to the Midwest! (your petroleum-based energetic emissions used in the targets. It makes the they/thems scream in agony. ;)
thank you
😂 “High and left…California ballistics” 👍
You should take the show on the road. People will pay good money to see that!
Nice shooting OG! Thanks Jeff for sharing this cool slug and homemade wad.
Thanks Jeff!
@@OGsDangerShow Fire day was pretty cool .. I'm waiting for C4 day - that would be a banger 😅
Great stuff as usual…the sciencey stuff at the end with airport lounge music playing as a backdrop to Jeff’s soothing voice just locks me into watching this video to the last second. OG shooting like a true marksman!
Always fun to see what projectiles and targets you come up with. Glad you didn't drop the ball on this one. Thanks for another great video.
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Thank you Jeff and Greg, I am glad we can enjoy this content during this time during such uncertainty. I can be entertained and educated at the same time. Long time fan and I share your videos with my friends. Best wishes as always. Ps where is Penelope & her sharpshooter mommy?
Our pleasure! I'm planning to have Breanna shoot this weekend.
@@taofledermaus Nice! I really enjoy seeing Proud Granddad Doug showing how adorable She is ...proud of his skilled Daughter. I love the TAOFLEDERMAUS family, and we the fans are so glad to be a part of all the fun!
@@taofledermaus So Happy glad to hear it!
I never get tired of this channel, it's always fun, off the cuff and down to earth. Plus who doesn't love fire? Keep up the great work guys, you rock!
thanks William
For reference with the golf ball, a shotgun slug leaving the barrel at 1550fps is equivalent to 1057mph which is 6 times harder. It’s actually impressive how strong fiber and paper is when condensed really suddenly, you’d think it would cut it with that kind of transfer of energy
I really loved the break down of the wad at the end. Great demonstration of how you work and think.
It made me wonder: would silly putty work as a tight fit support wad?
As it is non-newtonean, it should be very hard when fired, and once acceleration is over, it should easily separate as it becomes silly again. The gas seal would prevent the putty from running into the powder, but it might be possible that some could get around the ball if stored upside down. Maybe worth an experiment?
I've used silly putty before and it works pretty well, it's just on the heavy side.
@@taofledermaus thus the challenge for the TH-cam semi-scientific community to find a light weight silly putty formula!
Hi Jeff and Gregg, this was a very interesting round, especially with the form fitting paper wad. I was hoping to see the penetration on the clear ballistic jell. Thanks for the presentation.
Jeff and OG - I really liked your homemade paper mache wad solution...and that slug is a high tech pumpkin ball for sure..!! Well designed slug as it can be bore riding with minimal bearing surfacce. Thanks for another fine video, and Happy Thanksgiving to all... Steve
I hope the TP wad catches on and others can find applications for it.
That Toilet-paper mache ball cushion idea was down right genius. Then, the shot went through a steel helmet AND ol' Brandon's stuffing-filled noggin, too! Loved it!
thanks Al
That spider web effect was cool as hell! You guys gotta do that more often
I liked the fire on the bear and on the helmet. Loved the making of the wad. Very interesting slug somehow, would love to see more tests with it.
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Remind me of pumpkin ball rounds. The wad idea is an interesting one. I should try it with pumpkin balls. They are already rather accurate, but more accurate is always good. Thanks for the tip.
Definitely try it out.
OG was on top form today and Jeff's clever use of bog roll made this a fun wee episode. But this ball round will not dent a Mad Scotsman in full flow...Och Aye Laddie
WOW! As usual Jeff great camera work and love the added 🔥🔥🔥, thank you OG for the GREAT shooting as usual, you're still #1 in my book! Thank you guys and I always look forward to seeing your VIDEOS!! 💪👊💥
Thanks for stopping by, Dewey. Always great to have you here.
thanks!
Never figured you guys for a couple of "Flamers," But it IS California! 😁
Flame on! Neat results and the ingenuity of the cup wad was very clever
Thank you! Plus it wipes the barrel each shot!
"High and Left, California Ballistics" Bwahahahha!! Nice one.
Yesssssahhhh Blesssahhhhh my boys!!!!!! Saw this vid abouT to be on in 15 mins and I had to clock in!!!!!!! Work always gets in the way🤣🤣 another banger boys!!!!! TH-cam always stoked to see yous guys!!! Aloha from Kauai! Land of where OG’s mavic air 2 sleeps!
😂Aloha Brada. Take care of that Mavic and the Ohana!
A spherical projectile needs spin stabilization for accuracy, but Evan can make a slug from a door knocker, and it's dead nuts on
A mushroom tip design would be awesome. Imagine someone that decided to FAFO having that phallus removed in the hospital afterwards. "it grew in size." Yes.... Yes it did. It could hear your thoughts trying to break in someone's home to steal and well... It's happy to see you.
Always great info and video. Yeah there is just something satisfying about the lead plate impacts. Who knew! I cant belive people still think the road behind the berm is ao close. You should just post quick reference of the diatance between berm and road. You guys are the best.
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Love the flame effects. Look great on the slo motion!
That shot at the helmet was amazing, tore straight through it!!
I have seen a design like this in an old British shooting book. The “ribs” around the ball are there to permit the ball to squeeze down and pass through a heavily choked shotgun barrel without creating excess pressure as it passes through the choke.
Thank you for that awesome technical breakdown section at the end, and I always enjoy it when Greg does that camera boop with the featured round (haven't seen that ANYWHERE else)
I wonder what the next theme will be.. (with Thanksgiving around the corner will Greg be able to hunt the elusive pink Floridian turkey?)
Awesome round, flaming footage, love the technical ending. Really great episode.
thanks!!
Definitely I like the flaming targets. Fun as usual. Thanks. Not sure if you’ve used tannerite before but it can be impressive.
It would also be boring since that's all most others do already. Been there done that kinda stuff.
A big shoutout and many thanks to Jeff and Greg for all the hard work they put into these videos just for our entertainment. Great work guys. Keep it up.
thank you!
Another thing you can use to cushion and isolate the slug from an over powder wad is "Cornmeal". It works gangbusters in any black powder shotgun I've ever used. A measure of power, an equal measure of cornmeal, a measure of shot (or slug) and lastly an overshot wad of light card stock (playing cards) and bobs your uncle. and no, you don't put a wad between the powder and cornmeal. The black powder is an explosive, so it burns exceptionally fast. This gives far better patterns than is achieved with plug wads which tends to interfere with the developing shot-pattern.
I have to consider what the HS camera shots will look like.
@@taofledermaus Thank you for replying. ^~^ well nothing ventured nothing gained. In your case place the cornmeal between the over powder wad and slug and see what happens.
The burning plastisol bear has to be one of the coolest slomo! Really loved how to smoke looked!
"California ballistics, high and left". Priceless! :)
Hi!
If it wasn't for your Fred Kimble, we'd still be shooting round bullets into the barrel caliber.
There is a legend that mankind suffered with round bullets until 1957, and only when the first artificial satellite flew into the vastness of the universe, the unknown hero came up with the idea to make a caliber bullet with a sub-caliber and leading belts, and the bullet "Sputnik" appeared.
Sputnic, it's a Russian variation )))
Good test. having things on fire really didn't seem to add much visual interest, but what the heck. It's different. The toilet-paper wad is kinda' brilliant.
Good work with the custom wad, my doctor said deformed balls can cause shooting issues. I didn't even know he was in to shotguns!
Thanks so much. Very interesting as always. I look forward to all your videos.
Its the impact and splatter effect on the lead plate that makes it look cool. Yall r awesome
HAHAA that "slo-mo disappointment" at the boots scene x))
Thanks for another entertaining and informative video guys! Keep up the good work!! On the technical side, I’ve always wished that Ballistic Products would develop a hemispherical shaped wad just for round balls that closely fit the shape of the ball. I’ve always wondered why they don’t do that; they sell round balls, but flat wads…..
Yeah, just a hard plastic custom wad would be nice.
Sweet rounds. I love the flaming targets. Nice shooting 👍
The music at 7:12 was so damn familiar to me, I knew I had heard it somewhere, but I wasn't certain of where. On a hunch, I look through the soundtrack for Return To Castle Wolfenstein, because it sounded like that style, and lo and behold, it's the track Military Suspense.
Say, what happens if you load these at a tilted angle and fire them through a rifled bore?
"High and left, California ballistics" - OG Greg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 had me dead 💀
The flaming targets satisfied my inner 12 year old thank you. Also the comment about the backstop that appeared across the top made me laugh thanks Jeff
I get those all the time. We call those people the berm police.
Tip of the day : if you stir a little wood glue into your toilet paper pulp, your homemade wads will end up considerably stronger.
If you use a 50/50 mix of water and wood glue to make the pulp, and add in a little bit of finely shredded fabric to the mix, they end up orders of magnitude stronger than just tp+water.
I did use some glue with the custom wads I made for the nitrous cartridges and everyone told me not to use glue.
By far my favorite channel! Love the content you put out my friend!
Wow, thanks!
Bet you guys are glad it's not 100 degrees out anymore. Awesome video as always guys. Love the flaming objects! O.G " put the fire out".. Negative " lol
Yeah, it's actually pleasant to be out there
I guess the flaming can of shaving cream is the closest we're gonna get to a TTT. Keep up the great work, fellas!
"High and left- California ballistics" omg that one had me rolling...
There is also friction forcing the wad into the microscopic pores of the slug, giving it some adehrence, which varies. Its still creating drag and some wads may have more drag than adeherence+void thats when the leave the slug.
If the slug had some uniform scoring, dovetailing, i wonder if such a TP wad would stay attached better without need for glue, just from being forced into such.
Another great video. Like the slug cup you made, pretty ingenious. This projectile looks very interesting to say the least. Need to look up your older videos to see how it performed versus plain round ball.
thanks John
The lead target is a good and ancient master!
It used to hang on a swing from the ceiling, if lift, elongation and temperature after impact are measured corretly it tells the energy on impact.
Well Jeff....this just in, it looks pretty awesome! 👍
Slugging. There is an interesting segment in Hatcher's Notebook about it. What a peculiar design for a shotgun ball. I suppose the idea was to let it go through tight chokes?
Thanks for the technical info. It was cool to see how you made the wad!!
Thank you, wizard of shotgun loadery, experimenter extraordinaire.
Exceptionally interesting video. I don't know about everyone else, but I found the details at the end very helpful in explaining why you did what you did. On the subject of the toilet paper wad, would an adhesive like white glue add any additional rigidity, or would that cause damage to the bore of the accelerator?
bump i also recommend white glue, used it mixed with tp to create speaker membrane cones
Jeff and OG y'all rock! Love the slugs and accuracy is not bad either! Peace
Good stuff! The flaming targets was pretty good... Maybe you could next feature whatever slugs vs Road Warrior type armors ;D
That look on Brandon's face at 7:35; "Well s**t, I knew I had it coming!".
Thank you, from the inner pyro in all of us. Fiiiiiire,
The way you walk and talk really sets me off
To a four-alarm, child, yes it does, uh, uh
The way you squeeze and tease knocks to me my knees
'Cause you're smokin', baby, baby
Fire (Uh, uh)
Fire (Sing us home) (Oh Lord)
Fire (woo, woo, woo, woo)
Fire
I like the flaming targets. I also like the supporting wads you made for these slugs.
Officer Gregg got the Kenny jacket.
Holy blowtorch, Batman, the TFM crew was certainly fired up this time around. Hope Brandon recovers from his job-induced migraine very soon!
That's some cool looking ammunition, and it performed excellently too
I love a story with a great ending!
Thank you.
8:00 very nice and clear explanation!
Rifling makes everything better, and fire makes it more awesome.
The super-slomo at the end was very cool. The flame was getting party sucked into the hole in the helmet due to the low pressure inside the helmet (I'm assuming).
Your toilet paper wads are simply brilliant! In Edwardian England, there were many experiments with fancy wads for shotguns, some of which are still available. The makers of the round ball should get onto that and sell paper wads with the slugs.
thanks!
Well fire was the theme today. Kind of looks like a pumpkin ball but when you look at it after you put it in the shotgun shell it looks like a helmet like you said. I guess these things would work pretty good for hunting. Put in that toilet paper in there was a pretty good idea it looks like. I guess when you shoot the poop out of these slugs the toilet paper is there to do its job. Just a little levity there. Thanks for the video y'all always enjoy these videos. OG must not have felt too good today because he didn't have very many funny cracks. Stay vigilant!
The Lead Plate is the ultimate test of worthiness!!! Anything that gets a finger wiggle on the lead plate is worthy. You should do a compilation of slugs that punch the plate!!!