What i really wonna see is 16" M1 PRO vs M1 max 24 GPU - battery life and all test comparison. Because M1 MAX 32 GPU already doesn't do that difference in power but in battery life less efficient. Max gets hot and loud
Never buy a computer what is the intention of resale value people buying used are usually buying used because they’re cheap and will try to lowball you in my experience
Great video, I edit 4k videos, maybe 4k120 in near future also some photshopp and lightroom does m1 pro with 16gig will enough? is it only render time difference?
Last night i ordered the 16" with the lower 24core Max & 32gb ram & 2TB ssd :) my first ever apple computer! (i do have M1 iPad Pro) This will be replacing my 2019 Dell XPS 15. Good to see an review with the 24GPU Max instead of the 32 like everyone else!
Wow. The 24c 14” is literally 1 FPS slower than the 32c 14" w/ 64GB that I have. I also compared with Luke's scores, he got a 77 FPS score with Medium settings -- mine gets a 78 FPS... This is crazy!
Hi, I want to ask which one is better desktop with rtx3080 or m1 pro/max for mobile development, docker,adobe xd, little photoshop and I’m will to enter to game development in unity
not completely..eevee uses the gpu..and the tests are also a good show of CPU performance for now. Will be nice to utilize the gpu soon with Cycles rendering.
@@profutzer Yeah I was mainlly talking for Cycles haha, forgot to specify it may bad ;) YOu think the M1 MAX will be worth the 1000$ more over the M1 PRO?
Amazing content, thank you very much for this comparison! Could you do a gaming test using the same 14" models? I'm curious to see Dota 2 performance on both models, as well as how loud fans can be during gaming sustained sessions.
Hey I want the 16” m1 max 32gb 1tb but not sure about the battery life(I keep my devices for years until they shut down on their own) but what you think of battery life is 3-6% a big deal that I shouldn’t go with it I should go with pro instead? For software development and video editing for the power and the battery life for when I use my laptop to watch TH-cam videos and Netflix (I don’t have a laptop my 2015 MacBook Pro stopped working two months ago 6 years I want to keep this one for years
the max draws only more power than the m1 pro when GPU is really long on 100%... watching TH-cam, software development wont be any difference at all because there gpu should be relativly idle
Hey, thanks for the great comparison. I considering 14" Max version as I constantly work on the go and often in public places or at a café. I like the portability of 14" but wondering if the fan noise will be too distracting/annoying for the person sitting next to me in the café when I'm doing a long blender render. Would like to hear your input on this. Would you suggest going with the 16" version, as that's supposedly has better thermals and hence less fan noise?
I tried the full blast mode for the fans for 14" M1 Max and I dont think it will be disturbingly loud in a cafe or a public space. At home, you can definitely hear it but in a public area with a lot of noise, I dont think it will be an issue.
My wish: make quick EEVEE Fox test (with gpu enabled version!) with m1pro16GB vs. m1pro32GB. Both connected to 4-5k monitor. How about it, @createdtech?
I just bought M1 Pro 14". its really awesome device. My use is mostly for Programming and IT stuff so far no fan noise in last one week. I got 10% discount as well :) I used that discounted money to get apple care plus. I would say its best price as Apple doesnt give any discount to latest products,
Great comparison video. For me the sweet spot is the 16" Pro with 32 GB ram. That will run cooler than the Max and the Pro 14" and will also offer the best battery life. Those were more important to me then the tradeoff of more GPU performance in my work flow. I think your recommendation for most users is spot on though.
@@CreatedTech ive tried replying twice with a linke to GFXbench results from a 32 core m1 max...all of the onscreen tests are 120fps. Offscreen will show the true capability of the gpus without being limited by the display. I guess posting a link gets the comment removed by youtube?
@@CreatedTech It would be really awesome to see the 32 core 14in vs the 24 core 14in (ive searched allover and have yet to see that comparison) Apparently the 32 core in the 14in is throttled, i wonder how close the performance is to the 24core which may or may not also be throttled in the smaller macbook. Also, if you would be willing to try the gfxbench test offscreen with the 24 core I would really love to see the results or if you can just post them, no video needed if you dont have the time for it. thanks
I'm going for the 14". I'm just saddened by the bigger battery, bigger speaker system, and obviously the larger display. I would go for the 16" base model, but it will just break my bank. Funny how the 16" base model is $500 more. Idk, can I get some feedback on my dilemma?
I couldn't decide for ages and ended up with the 14". I was actually pleasantly surprised by how decent the size still is when viewed in person (i'm coming from the M1 Air). The youtube reviews don't give the screen justice imo. It's not huge... but it doesn't feel cramped either. I've owned 16" macbooks before and they're pretty cumbersome to take out, or even use around the house. I also don't like attention and i feel a big 16" is just asking for eyeballs. Depends on your needs of course.... i use an external monitor for most of my work. 14" speakers sound amazing to me. I don't think you'll regret getting the 14". Only reason i'd get the 16" is if i'd spend a lot of time doing pro work without an external monitor. i.e it would make a great fully mobile complete workstation for graphic designers/musicians etc. Seeing as I only work away from my monitor about 20% of the time - I choose portability.
I had been struggling with 14 vs 16 for quite some time. I wanted to go with 16 inch, but when I went to the apple store and compared them in real life, the 16 inch was just so huge and heavy. TH-cam videos don't do them justice. It really depends on what you are planning to do of course. For me personally, portability is important so I decided to go with 14 inch. I figured I can get an external display or two if I really need a larger screen at home. Now I'm struggling with M1pro vs M1max. The price difference between the two configurations I'm looking into is just $200 (M1pro 10/16 cores 32gb 1tb vs M1max 10/24 cores 32gb 1tb). The problem with all the reviews out there is that they compare them under heavy loads and there is no light usage battery life comparison. I can't decide how bad the battery life drop is on Max vs Pro. If the difference is about 6% like in this video, I may just go with the 24c Max to have that extra power when/if I need it.
@@andreyprilutskiy5591 I have *exactly* the same question for the same spec machines. I do video editing as a hobby and like the idea of much faster renders….which I might do a few times in a weekend….but not at the cost if poor battery life *every* day. If general work use has similar battery life I’d will go for the Max, but if its 1-2 hours less, I think I’d choose the Pro
@@johngwheeler Check out the latest Dave2D video. He showed battery life graphs under different loads. I don't know where is this data coming from, but the difference is there. I think I'm going with the M1Pro 10/16 chip as I rarely do photo/video editing nowadays. I think I can wait few more minutes once in a while to get a better battery life every day.
Great video as usual, man! Can't decide whether to upgrade to max. I edit docs, big projects in premiere with hundreds of hours of footage and hundreds of sequences. You think given my workflow, the upgrades are worth it? Thanks in advance for your reply.
If you're doing projects that large - definitely get the Max. I assume your renders already take several hours to complete? The Max will halve your rendering time compared to the Pro among other things. That alone would be worth the upgrade for me personally (although my longest videos are about 30 minutes long).
@@CreatedTech thanks for quick reply! Yeah I'm constantly breaking down hours long sessions and both scrubbing and exporting is a real pain on my 2014 15". An update is well overdue. Cheers man!
One huge question : what was the duration of these tests? 1 hour? 5 hours? 2 hours? Every review is always emitting important information regarding battery life... 46% after 1 hour is horrible 46% after 3 hours would be amazing...
The reason it's not mentioned is because it's a very inaccurate way of measuring the battery life. During these videos, the MacBooks are often left sitting idle for 30+ mins several times while you mess around with cameras or wait for something to download. Sometimes even shut down overnight if you can't get the video done in one day. It's not benchmarking or rendering for example 100% of the time. Besides, the aim of this video is to see how the battery life differs between models, not how long the battery life is overall. That's what a review is for. That being said, this video took roughly 3 hours to complete before I compared the battery between the two.
@@CreatedTech thanks for the explanation. Would love to see a strictly battery test video where you do something like play a 3 hour TH-cam video straight through on full brightness and see where the batteries are at when it’s done. Beyond comparing the MBP models against each other, it would also be interesting if you ran the same test multiple times using a different web browser each time to give us an idea of if the browser choice has a significant effect on the battery. Throw the MacBook Air M1 in the battery tests too.
@@CreatedTech i respectfuly disagree - the amount of battery drained during tests is irelevant unless the length of the tests is taken into account - because, again, if you burn through 50% of your battery in 1 hours - that's horrible. screen on time is important because it gives you a better estimate of what the machine is capable of - so if for example you claim these tests took around 3 hours - and you were left with 45%~ average battery, that means the device can hold off for at least 6 hours of medium to intensive work loads and that's IMPORTANT - if for instant the whole test took only 1 hour to complete - that would mean you can expect only 2 hours of heave work load and that's BAD - so forgive me by telling you this - battery difference does not mean ANYTHING unless you take into count the duration that the battery can last
@Liad Goren You're not understanding - the entire point of this video is to compare both machines against each other while both are being used in the exact same way, for the same length of time. Actual time spent testing the laptops is irrelevant - as battery percentage difference between the two is all we're interested in. It doesn't matter if the length of the testing is 10 minutes or 10 hours, the battery difference will remain roughly the same. The LENGTH of charge is something that should be tested in an individual review, not a comparison video like this one, like I explained in my previous comment.
You mentioned on one of your videos that you switched from BRAW to ProRes on your Blackmagic Camera. I've got the Pocket 4k and mainly shoot BRAW. Was wondering if you're seeing major improvement in editing with ProRes vs BRAW? Enough to warrant to loss of RAW flexibility. I love the fact that the Pocket at least has that option.
For my talking head shots I didn’t notice any loss in quality, BRAW is definitely overkill for a controlled studio environment. Main advantage of ProRes for me was vastly reduced file size and easier to edit in FCP
can you do the thermal pad modification to the new mbp? similar to how it was done on the air. people say it wont affect it because it has active cooling, but i think it will, less usage of the fan means potentially better battery life. no one has done it yet. always better to test than to guess
I'll just get the base model with 1TB of SSD,. These machines have a wonderful long life, so this one will last me for a while. After all, mt MBP mid 2012 it's stil going after all these years, and I use it for concept art and illustration (photoshop, illustrator, zbrush).
My question would be, which would be most future proof? I’m in a dilemma where I believe I will be mostly fine (great even) working with the base 16in, but in the case of having the computer for as long as I can, will it be enough in the future?
I keep my laptop for years until they give up on me n I ask TH-camrs and they say if that’s the case for as high as your money can afford. My my 2015 mbp (6years) stop working two months ago because I didn’t have enough storage n etc it started freezing shutting down etc if it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t buy a new one
To best future proof go for atleast 32gb ram (to avoid as much 'swap memory' use, which will wear out the SSD faster). And 1tb storage atleast (bc cant upgrade later, have to spec ideal now or concede to living the external-drive life). But if want to keep for longer than 4yrs, you should go higher than 1tb for convenience. And atleast 24-core max for future-proofing. (if shorter term then the M1-Pro would be enough) If will definitely hold onto for the long term as main machine, then its worth the extra$ investment now
Hey, thanks for the comparison. I think you’re the first one to do a Handbrake test, which is great, but could you possibly test and compare them with h.265 10-bit and also the video toolbox version of that, as that’s when the double dedicated video encoders in the Max should make a difference! Cheers!
The more NEW MBP videos I watch, when comparing to my own model, gets more and more confusing. I thought the sweet spot would be the 24GPU Max--because of the faster memory bus---model but didn't want to wait. Turns out, it does drain battery quicker. But would it based on my use, Ps being the only app I use that would make use of the extra GPU cores and RAM? Didn't want to wait, so went with the 16" Pro 32gb RAM, 1 TB drive. I like keeping apps open, but nothing like the heavy loads I see demonstrated. Lo and behold, I see crazy RAM use and swap warnings with just writing programs and Safari. After hooking up two external Apple 24" displays, Control Center is hogging 4gb even with displays disconnected (I will restart later to see if that fixes the issue). I use 3-4 desktop windows with about six programs running, but when I launch Ps, I sometimes get the spinning rainbow ball when opening photos, and every time when selecting objects to copy for masks. My RAM use has gone as high as 28gb, and now hovers around 16gb. My M1Air, 16gb, never got beyond 12gb used, although swap RAM approached 2gb of 4. My 16" intel, 32gb, averaged around 20gb average, to 25 at most. Seems like the more RAM you have on the M1s, the less efficient the usage because the RAM swap seems to meet app needs when needed. Would the 32gpu solve the Ps issue? I don't know. There shouldn't be that issue based on the videos I've watched, but...there it is. And would I take a battery hit even though I only use Ps with power connected? I can surf and write for 2+ days on battery, equal to my M1Air. Nuts! Discord(ant) is a state of mind...
PS is still badly optimized for Apple silicon, could be your issue. Also sounds like a potential software issue, so maybe try reformatting the SSD worst case scenario and see if it improves. PS is mostly RAM and CPU hungry, I don't believe it uses much of the GPU (from my own use of PS at least, could be wrong).
@@CreatedTech Isn't windows laptop is still a better choice overall though? Aside from coding and video editing, which windows laptop is still very good at, 3D models, games are better on Windows laptop and it cost significantly less as well.
@@super_hero2 If you know of a Windows laptop that do all of the above when unplugged at the same performance levels, please let the world know. I think you might have a hard job finding one :-)
Hi! I just bought a base model 14" M1 Pro MBP, but I noticed something weird - the WindowServer process is taking an inexplicable amount of RAM and CPU. Even with just one Netflix tab open, it is taking ~50 GB!!!! of RAM and >100% CPU. This is creating high memory pressure. How is this even possible? This is to bring this issue to your attention. Is this happening with you too?
Just out of curiousity: who even stabilizes their footage anymore? (through software I mean) We're so past warpy jelly footage, I feel this has become a synthetic benchmark at this point. That, OR - the stabilization has become THAT good that I no longer notice it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Even with the use of physical stabilisers (gimbal, flycams, stedicams and ibs) I still add some stabilisation in post- not all the time though. It's a good becnhamark test Imo overall
Please don't cut away to the talking head shot when you do render tests of blender or cinebench. We kinda want to see a feel of the speed of the viewport.
@@CreatedTech Not saying the entire test would be shown. The B-roll would be more informative to us who can compare how fast the images show to our existing machines. There is plenty of A-roll already. Just an opinion. :)
The real winner is the MBA M1 with 16GB 1TB. In practice the same power as the MBP 14" but absolutely quiet because of fanless. God sake it only has no Notch and TouchBar. The MBA is also very slim and light.
interesting stuff thanks! You can also introduce a drinking game where viewers take a sip every time you say “as you can see” - if they’re still conscious by the end of the video you win! ;-)
The official Created Tech Discord is crazy...get in while you still can: crtd.tech/discord
Can you test Windows 11 with Parallels on broadcasting programs like OBS and vMix?
Hey, Want to know which is better for 2499$ 14 inch Mac or 16 inch Mac! I am an Unity Developer! So CPU n GPU performance matters a lot
What i really wonna see is 16" M1 PRO vs M1 max 24 GPU - battery life and all test comparison.
Because M1 MAX 32 GPU already doesn't do that difference in power but in battery life less efficient.
Max gets hot and loud
16" M1 PRO VS MAX 24 CORES WE NEED THIS TEST
Yes!!!!!
Ya this is the real consumer test
nice grammar
The trouble is it's really a £700 upgrade in the UK because they force you to buy the £400 extra for 16GB more RAM.
I'm going for the base 14". It has a good resale value. I'll be upgrading again in the next 3 years.
Never buy a computer what is the intention of resale value people buying used are usually buying used because they’re cheap and will try to lowball you in my experience
Be worth £300 if you lucky in 3 years.
@@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Don’t be silly
@@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo M1 2020 is 2 years old, 2k machine and still resells for 1.5k+. Apple resell value is insane.
Great video, I edit 4k videos, maybe 4k120 in near future also some photshopp and lightroom does m1 pro with 16gig will enough? is it only render time difference?
I have one doubt in this video.
In the starting of this video U charged M1 Max with type C ??
Last night i ordered the 16" with the lower 24core Max & 32gb ram & 2TB ssd :) my first ever apple computer! (i do have M1 iPad Pro)
This will be replacing my 2019 Dell XPS 15.
Good to see an review with the 24GPU Max instead of the 32 like everyone else!
Just ordered same exact specs! 🤟🏻
can't decide between either 14" or 16" base model or m1 imac for my video editing office.
Wow. The 24c 14” is literally 1 FPS slower than the 32c 14" w/ 64GB that I have. I also compared with Luke's scores, he got a 77 FPS score with Medium settings -- mine gets a 78 FPS... This is crazy!
I was wondering this..I have the 14in 32c on the way. Would you be willing to do the blender test to see how close that is to his 24 core?
Looks like u fell for the fanboy propaganda … m1 gpu cores just suck… and unfortunately apple killed egpus
Hi, I want to ask which one is better desktop with rtx3080 or m1 pro/max for mobile development, docker,adobe xd, little photoshop and I’m will to enter to game development in unity
Thanks for comparing battery life between the M1 Pro and M1 Max. Something I was very curious about.
That exactly was my choice, and I went for the base model. It runs just perfect
Can you do some gaming on it tho ?
Still no BLender optimized version for Macs, isn't this Blender test pointless until 3.1 comes out with METAL backend?
not completely..eevee uses the gpu..and the tests are also a good show of CPU performance for now. Will be nice to utilize the gpu soon with Cycles rendering.
@@profutzer Yeah I was mainlly talking for Cycles haha, forgot to specify it may bad ;) YOu think the M1 MAX will be worth the 1000$ more over the M1 PRO?
Thank you for the video!!
Love the vibes of your studio lights❤️❤️
I notice a difference in the speakers of the Max vs the Pro for 16". Do you notice it too or just the unit I got?
Amazing job, one of the best M1 videos.
Amazing content, thank you very much for this comparison!
Could you do a gaming test using the same 14" models?
I'm curious to see Dota 2 performance on both models, as well as how loud fans can be during gaming sustained sessions.
Does anyone know if the 14imch m1 max 24 gpu suffer from thermal throttling? I've see videos of the 32 gpu have the thermal throttling issue.
Hey I want the 16” m1 max 32gb 1tb but not sure about the battery life(I keep my devices for years until they shut down on their own) but what you think of battery life is 3-6% a big deal that I shouldn’t go with it I should go with pro instead? For software development and video editing for the power and the battery life for when I use my laptop to watch TH-cam videos and Netflix (I don’t have a laptop my 2015 MacBook Pro stopped working two months ago 6 years I want to keep this one for years
the max draws only more power than the m1 pro when GPU is really long on 100%... watching TH-cam, software development wont be any difference at all because there gpu should be relativly idle
which software do you use to see the cpu percentage and temperatures at the top bar?
TG Pro
That’s kinda crazy. Making me reconsider paying massively more for the M1 Max.
Im wondering how long that battery lasts on the 16 max when its working hard but with the screen turned off.
Hey, Want to know which is better for 2499$ 14 inch Mac or 16 inch Mac! I am an Unity Developer! So CPU n GPU performance matters a lot !
I made a quick video comparing those two in performance of gpu/cpu and battery life yesterday
I learnt from this video that you can do 3D rendering on the M1 MacBook Pro. I thought it was only possible with Max chip before this.
Love your content!! 🔥🔥💪🏼
Hey, thanks for the great comparison. I considering 14" Max version as I constantly work on the go and often in public places or at a café. I like the portability of 14" but wondering if the fan noise will be too distracting/annoying for the person sitting next to me in the café when I'm doing a long blender render. Would like to hear your input on this. Would you suggest going with the 16" version, as that's supposedly has better thermals and hence less fan noise?
I tried the full blast mode for the fans for 14" M1 Max and I dont think it will be disturbingly loud in a cafe or a public space. At home, you can definitely hear it but in a public area with a lot of noise, I dont think it will be an issue.
My wish: make quick EEVEE Fox test (with gpu enabled version!) with m1pro16GB vs. m1pro32GB. Both connected to 4-5k monitor. How about it, @createdtech?
I just bought M1 Pro 14". its really awesome device. My use is mostly for Programming and IT stuff so far no fan noise in last one week. I got 10% discount as well :) I used that discounted money to get apple care plus. I would say its best price as Apple doesnt give any discount to latest products,
i also got the 10/16 one, no fan noise at all even in microsoft teams, which totally kills my 2018 16" intel macbook during videocalls
I like your videos .because Your presentation is good❤️
Great comparison video. For me the sweet spot is the 16" Pro with 32 GB ram. That will run cooler than the Max and the Pro 14" and will also offer the best battery life. Those were more important to me then the tradeoff of more GPU performance in my work flow. I think your recommendation for most users is spot on though.
With the sweet spot, will it be enough for Lightroom, photoshop and occasional video editing for another 3-4years?
@@immortalmonkitic Yes
@@jimtipton8888 Thanks mate.
What I've been waiting for!
the gfx bench onscreen tests are limited by the screen refresh rate..offscreen would possibly give a wider range difference between the two
Source for that? GFX Bench tests for max FPS, which is not dependent on screen refresh rate.
@@CreatedTech ive tried replying twice with a linke to GFXbench results from a 32 core m1 max...all of the onscreen tests are 120fps. Offscreen will show the true capability of the gpus without being limited by the display. I guess posting a link gets the comment removed by youtube?
@@profutzer Hmm, I have a few 32 core GPU models coming soon, so I will have to check it out.
@@CreatedTech It would be really awesome to see the 32 core 14in vs the 24 core 14in (ive searched allover and have yet to see that comparison) Apparently the 32 core in the 14in is throttled, i wonder how close the performance is to the 24core which may or may not also be throttled in the smaller macbook. Also, if you would be willing to try the gfxbench test offscreen with the 24 core I would really love to see the results or if you can just post them, no video needed if you dont have the time for it. thanks
What is the red and yellow wallpaper!
I'm going for the 14". I'm just saddened by the bigger battery, bigger speaker system, and obviously the larger display. I would go for the 16" base model, but it will just break my bank. Funny how the 16" base model is $500 more. Idk, can I get some feedback on my dilemma?
I couldn't decide for ages and ended up with the 14". I was actually pleasantly surprised by how decent the size still is when viewed in person (i'm coming from the M1 Air). The youtube reviews don't give the screen justice imo. It's not huge... but it doesn't feel cramped either. I've owned 16" macbooks before and they're pretty cumbersome to take out, or even use around the house. I also don't like attention and i feel a big 16" is just asking for eyeballs. Depends on your needs of course.... i use an external monitor for most of my work. 14" speakers sound amazing to me.
I don't think you'll regret getting the 14". Only reason i'd get the 16" is if i'd spend a lot of time doing pro work without an external monitor. i.e it would make a great fully mobile complete workstation for graphic designers/musicians etc. Seeing as I only work away from my monitor about 20% of the time - I choose portability.
I had the 16 and returned it. It was so heavy and unwieldy. If you like to take your laptop outside of the house then go for the 14
I had been struggling with 14 vs 16 for quite some time. I wanted to go with 16 inch, but when I went to the apple store and compared them in real life, the 16 inch was just so huge and heavy. TH-cam videos don't do them justice. It really depends on what you are planning to do of course. For me personally, portability is important so I decided to go with 14 inch. I figured I can get an external display or two if I really need a larger screen at home.
Now I'm struggling with M1pro vs M1max. The price difference between the two configurations I'm looking into is just $200 (M1pro 10/16 cores 32gb 1tb vs M1max 10/24 cores 32gb 1tb). The problem with all the reviews out there is that they compare them under heavy loads and there is no light usage battery life comparison. I can't decide how bad the battery life drop is on Max vs Pro. If the difference is about 6% like in this video, I may just go with the 24c Max to have that extra power when/if I need it.
@@andreyprilutskiy5591 I have *exactly* the same question for the same spec machines. I do video editing as a hobby and like the idea of much faster renders….which I might do a few times in a weekend….but not at the cost if poor battery life *every* day. If general work use has similar battery life I’d will go for the Max, but if its 1-2 hours less, I think I’d choose the Pro
@@johngwheeler Check out the latest Dave2D video. He showed battery life graphs under different loads. I don't know where is this data coming from, but the difference is there. I think I'm going with the M1Pro 10/16 chip as I rarely do photo/video editing nowadays. I think I can wait few more minutes once in a while to get a better battery life every day.
Great video as usual, man!
Can't decide whether to upgrade to max.
I edit docs, big projects in premiere with hundreds of hours of footage and hundreds of sequences. You think given my workflow, the upgrades are worth it?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
If you're doing projects that large - definitely get the Max. I assume your renders already take several hours to complete? The Max will halve your rendering time compared to the Pro among other things. That alone would be worth the upgrade for me personally (although my longest videos are about 30 minutes long).
@@CreatedTech thanks for quick reply!
Yeah I'm constantly breaking down hours long sessions and both scrubbing and exporting is a real pain on my 2014 15". An update is well overdue.
Cheers man!
One huge question : what was the duration of these tests? 1 hour? 5 hours? 2 hours?
Every review is always emitting important information regarding battery life...
46% after 1 hour is horrible
46% after 3 hours would be amazing...
The reason it's not mentioned is because it's a very inaccurate way of measuring the battery life. During these videos, the MacBooks are often left sitting idle for 30+ mins several times while you mess around with cameras or wait for something to download. Sometimes even shut down overnight if you can't get the video done in one day. It's not benchmarking or rendering for example 100% of the time. Besides, the aim of this video is to see how the battery life differs between models, not how long the battery life is overall. That's what a review is for.
That being said, this video took roughly 3 hours to complete before I compared the battery between the two.
@@CreatedTech thanks for the explanation. Would love to see a strictly battery test video where you do something like play a 3 hour TH-cam video straight through on full brightness and see where the batteries are at when it’s done. Beyond comparing the MBP models against each other, it would also be interesting if you ran the same test multiple times using a different web browser each time to give us an idea of if the browser choice has a significant effect on the battery.
Throw the MacBook Air M1 in the battery tests too.
@@CreatedTech i respectfuly disagree - the amount of battery drained during tests is irelevant unless the length of the tests is taken into account - because, again, if you burn through 50% of your battery in 1 hours - that's horrible. screen on time is important because it gives you a better estimate of what the machine is capable of - so if for example you claim these tests took around 3 hours - and you were left with 45%~ average battery, that means the device can hold off for at least 6 hours of medium to intensive work loads and that's IMPORTANT - if for instant the whole test took only 1 hour to complete - that would mean you can expect only 2 hours of heave work load and that's BAD - so forgive me by telling you this - battery difference does not mean ANYTHING unless you take into count the duration that the battery can last
@Liad Goren You're not understanding - the entire point of this video is to compare both machines against each other while both are being used in the exact same way, for the same length of time. Actual time spent testing the laptops is irrelevant - as battery percentage difference between the two is all we're interested in. It doesn't matter if the length of the testing is 10 minutes or 10 hours, the battery difference will remain roughly the same.
The LENGTH of charge is something that should be tested in an individual review, not a comparison video like this one, like I explained in my previous comment.
You mentioned on one of your videos that you switched from BRAW to ProRes on your Blackmagic Camera. I've got the Pocket 4k and mainly shoot BRAW. Was wondering if you're seeing major improvement in editing with ProRes vs BRAW? Enough to warrant to loss of RAW flexibility. I love the fact that the Pocket at least has that option.
For my talking head shots I didn’t notice any loss in quality, BRAW is definitely overkill for a controlled studio environment. Main advantage of ProRes for me was vastly reduced file size and easier to edit in FCP
Another very interesting video!
Agreed: M1 Max 24cGPU 32GB uni.mem. is the sweet spot (with 16’’ for screen, fans, battery). Waiting for it…
can you do the thermal pad modification to the new mbp? similar to how it was done on the air. people say it wont affect it because it has active cooling, but i think it will, less usage of the fan means potentially better battery life. no one has done it yet. always better to test than to guess
I'll just get the base model with 1TB of SSD,. These machines have a wonderful long life, so this one will last me for a while. After all, mt MBP mid 2012 it's stil going after all these years, and I use it for concept art and illustration (photoshop, illustrator, zbrush).
My question would be, which would be most future proof? I’m in a dilemma where I believe I will be mostly fine (great even) working with the base 16in, but in the case of having the computer for as long as I can, will it be enough in the future?
I keep my laptop for years until they give up on me n I ask TH-camrs and they say if that’s the case for as high as your money can afford. My my 2015 mbp (6years) stop working two months ago because I didn’t have enough storage n etc it started freezing shutting down etc if it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t buy a new one
To best future proof go for atleast 32gb ram (to avoid as much 'swap memory' use, which will wear out the SSD faster).
And 1tb storage atleast (bc cant upgrade later, have to spec ideal now or concede to living the external-drive life). But if want to keep for longer than 4yrs, you should go higher than 1tb for convenience.
And atleast 24-core max for future-proofing. (if shorter term then the M1-Pro would be enough)
If will definitely hold onto for the long term as main machine, then its worth the extra$ investment now
Hey, thanks for the comparison.
I think you’re the first one to do a Handbrake test, which is great, but could you possibly test and compare them with h.265 10-bit and also the video toolbox version of that, as that’s when the double dedicated video encoders in the Max should make a difference!
Cheers!
The more NEW MBP videos I watch, when comparing to my own model, gets more and more confusing. I thought the sweet spot would be the 24GPU Max--because of the faster memory bus---model but didn't want to wait. Turns out, it does drain battery quicker. But would it based on my use, Ps being the only app I use that would make use of the extra GPU cores and RAM? Didn't want to wait, so went with the 16" Pro 32gb RAM, 1 TB drive. I like keeping apps open, but nothing like the heavy loads I see demonstrated. Lo and behold, I see crazy RAM use and swap warnings with just writing programs and Safari. After hooking up two external Apple 24" displays, Control Center is hogging 4gb even with displays disconnected (I will restart later to see if that fixes the issue). I use 3-4 desktop windows with about six programs running, but when I launch Ps, I sometimes get the spinning rainbow ball when opening photos, and every time when selecting objects to copy for masks. My RAM use has gone as high as 28gb, and now hovers around 16gb. My M1Air, 16gb, never got beyond 12gb used, although swap RAM approached 2gb of 4. My 16" intel, 32gb, averaged around 20gb average, to 25 at most. Seems like the more RAM you have on the M1s, the less efficient the usage because the RAM swap seems to meet app needs when needed. Would the 32gpu solve the Ps issue? I don't know. There shouldn't be that issue based on the videos I've watched, but...there it is. And would I take a battery hit even though I only use Ps with power connected? I can surf and write for 2+ days on battery, equal to my M1Air. Nuts! Discord(ant) is a state of mind...
PS is still badly optimized for Apple silicon, could be your issue. Also sounds like a potential software issue, so maybe try reformatting the SSD worst case scenario and see if it improves.
PS is mostly RAM and CPU hungry, I don't believe it uses much of the GPU (from my own use of PS at least, could be wrong).
@@CreatedTech Isn't windows laptop is still a better choice overall though? Aside from coding and video editing, which windows laptop is still very good at, 3D models, games are better on Windows laptop and it cost significantly less as well.
@@super_hero2 If you know of a Windows laptop that do all of the above when unplugged at the same performance levels, please let the world know. I think you might have a hard job finding one :-)
But what about memory leaks?
14" M1 Pro with 16 or 32 GB RAM?
16gig are pretty good with unified memory, resell value and longterm use i think should buy 32
the cost doesnt justify the upgrade unless you really need the best performance😲
I might benefit from the extra gpu cores since I'm planning to do some blender
@@wiseknight6180 For 3d rendering m1 max make quite a lot of sense, I think you should go for the 32 core
@@wiseknight6180 3d rendering aint no small task
@@reyanshsingla i was thinking of making detailed buildings, what model would suffice?
@@wiseknight6180 by detailed buildings you mean 2d plans or 3d renders?
Hi! I just bought a base model 14" M1 Pro MBP, but I noticed something weird - the WindowServer process is taking an inexplicable amount of RAM and CPU. Even with just one Netflix tab open, it is taking ~50 GB!!!! of RAM and >100% CPU. This is creating high memory pressure. How is this even possible? This is to bring this issue to your attention. Is this happening with you too?
its new and doing things..wait a while and it will calm down
Good honest review to save ya coin.
I don’t care too much about performance, but I wanted the M1 Pro w/64GB Ram… too bad Apple limit it to 32… 😤
if you want 64gb ram, just take m1 max 24GPU dude
@@andreb.1352 Nah, I'm into music creation. No need for fast GPU. If there would have been an option of 128GB, I would have gotten for it.
Please compare m1 max 32 c vs amd 5950x
Great video
Please do video on after effects native version
Didn’t hear anything new that other channels haven’t already covered. Expected more tbh.
CEO of “As you can see”
Just out of curiousity: who even stabilizes their footage anymore? (through software I mean)
We're so past warpy jelly footage, I feel this has become a synthetic benchmark at this point. That, OR - the stabilization has become THAT good that I no longer notice it.
Maybe I'm wrong.
every pro does
Even with the use of physical stabilisers (gimbal, flycams, stedicams and ibs) I still add some stabilisation in post- not all the time though. It's a good becnhamark test Imo overall
Please don't cut away to the talking head shot when you do render tests of blender or cinebench. We kinda want to see a feel of the speed of the viewport.
That tells you nothing about the speed and will also add unnecessary length to the video.
@@CreatedTech Not saying the entire test would be shown. The B-roll would be more informative to us who can compare how fast the images show to our existing machines. There is plenty of A-roll already. Just an opinion. :)
Excellent!!
The real winner is the MBA M1 with 16GB 1TB. In practice the same power as the MBP 14" but absolutely quiet because of fanless. God sake it only has no Notch and TouchBar. The MBA is also very slim and light.
interesting stuff thanks!
You can also introduce a drinking game where viewers take a sip every time you say “as you can see” - if they’re still conscious by the end of the video you win! ;-)
Most people wouldn’t even put the M1 Pro to good use, no need for M1 Max for most people
Perfect video!!!! I need 32gb ram, at least :/ --- note, its 900$ upgrade to m1 max because of $400 ram.
you should still buy the Air 2020
Yesssss let’s go early next year I’ll be upgrading to one of these
Sooooo the base model is by far the best bang for buck
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