What did you all think about #Gears5 's Story/Campaign? Personally the story was too uneven and inconsistent. Plus, the developers need to officially decide who's leading the narrative here. Because Kait was only front and center due to that necklace at the end of "4", which was completely pointless and did nothing at all in Gears 5. Regardless if the developers are all in on Kait Diaz, they need to give us better reasons to root for her besides shoehorning her in as this big Gears of War Champion.
I literally agree with every point you stated. Only thing I would have added is profanity and buzzwords but that's just me. This video is perfect, dont change your style!
@Captain Obvious!!! well it’s clear the fans don’t like kaite I don’t like her eather she has no character she is like the abby from the last of us 2 just there to pls the sjws and so what if her grandmother was the queen the queen was a much better charter than her,and not to mention kait is like the story is like ima stick it to the the man men are bad type crap. Gears 4 and 5 have killed the gears series just like how the last of us 2 killed the last the last of us series
@@whitaker36 clearly you have jumped on the band wagon this has nothing to do with the sjws i personally didn’t like gears 5 I’ve played all of them and loved nearly all of them the gears storyline have always had strong female characters so I don’t get why you have brought in the sjws you seem like one of those young kids that hates something to fit in without actually looking at it from different perspectives
@@brispybonbords4600 if you watch Omaha16's "the problem with Kait in Gears of War" he talks about the devs propping Kait up as revolutionary but we already had Anya & Sam. He even provides articles from games media talking about how Kait's a woman in gears or whatever. So yea sjw's took that and ran with it. She's kinda gears Abby
i don’t really see why people have a problem with Katie i haven’t heard any valid argument because of her connection with the locust its understandable that she takes a main role
@@wifine1951 You literally have an option to kill the previous main protagonist son... Not sure how that is respecting the origin. I will admit it doesn't seem like they are attacking fans.
Its shit. They need to stop stretching shit out until everyone hates it, and just come up with something new. So tired of seeing my favorite trilogies get ruined with cash grab additions. Plus they always gotta have a WOMAN OF COLOR HERO which just feels so forced.
What's funny is that even with the focus on Kate, I personally feel JD got way more fleshed out in 5. Considering everyone refers to the "Settlement 2 incident" in the previous game as some atrocity committed by the COG, it's unsurprising that JD would struggle to open up to his friends about it; you see them recoil and look at him with disgust in that final scene before the Swarm attack, aside from Marcus who just looks at him with sympathy. As Del points out later, I'm pretty sure Marcus realised JD's involvement and gave his son the benefit of the doubt. And with those scars still fresh, coupled with the condemnation from Kait and Del, JD risks, or possibly intends to sacrifice his own life in an effort to use the hammer to stop the Swarm. Both here and in the previous Settlement 2 incident, I'd argue JD's actions likely saved a lot more lives than the alternative. However, he clearly feels the weight of those decisions and shoulders that burden alone, ashamed to face the others after waking up. Him becoming "so COG" as Kait puts it, is likely due to him losing faith in his own Judgement, following orders and allowing others to make the harder decisions. Right up until he learns about the events in Mount Kadar from Marcus, which seems to partially snap him back to his old self. That's why JD is my favourite of the new trio. He's flawed. He's human and more fleshed out than the others. (Although Faz certainly grew on me when he tagged along with JD in act 3)
Marcus looked at him with sympathy cause soldiers have to make decisions hard decisions civies don’t like JD made hard call and it was the right call the rioters began using fire bombs on gears What was JD supposed to do let rioters seriously hurt and kill his fellow gears? Run off making COG look weak and would embolden the rioters I swear del and kait are little children
@@GnosisZX Agreed. And It's worse in Del's case since he was there. How the hell is his account of events so different from JD and Faz, who don't even see eye to eye on most things at that point? Del was a soldier and he was there. As much of an asshole as Faz was, his frustration with Del is completely understandable. And Del continues to annoy me throughout the game; even when Kait acknowledges how badly she's messed up, Del literally argues she did nothing wrong. Because that's all his character boils down to.
It's weird too because if the protesters were throwing firebombs and putting lives in danger, JD and Fahz were well within jurisdiction to eliminate the threat. But it feels like the game tries so hard to make you hate JD.
@@unlimitedninja3635 It just highlights how bad these people write. They unintentionally make the characters they want you to like unbearable and the ones they want you to hate into more fleshed out and relatable characters.
I will say to you that I've noticed that the writing was broken, probably the edition killed most of it, it looks like they add things without a better thinking, is not that difficult to solve that plot, they wanted to change the main character? Fine, just take JD out of the field, make him get a promotion for his actions and be more like a higher ranking officer or something, still important, like his mother was in the first two games, that would eliminate the choice scene, that doesn't fit Gears, that is more like Wolfenstein and is obvious that they took from it, also obvious that was a last minute change, same with JD in the field, I thought he would be out for the rest of the game, and I guess that was the ideia originally, he was out than at the end he shows up to save the day or something with some leading role, thsr would be a WAY better development, I still think that the Queen stuff was stupid, they should've just make the Swarm a locust without a Queen, but I digress.
The fact that queen myrrah comes back in Gears 5 completely spits in the face of her death in Gears of War 3, it’s on the same level of bad writing as Cortana dying in Halo 4, only to miraculously come back in Halo 5 but as a villain........just *why* .
@@OMAHA16 the problem is they had something new. i was so excited to face off against the cog as sort of a rogue militia group. was anticipating playing as the new generations of gears, led by the son of Marcus Fenix, vs the evil dictatorship that the cog were turning into after winning the locust war. but instead of going that direction, they resurrect the locust and then shoehorn in kait as the granddaughter of queen myrrah randomly just to make a "strong, female character" the protagonist.
I honestly blame Rod Ferguson. He's ruins Gears 4 for alot of people, and he tries Ruining Gears 5 but now there's a new developer and if I'm not wrong Cliff Blezinski from the first OG 3 games(Including Judgement) is coming back to fix and create A LOT more for GEARS 6
This was a great take on Gears 5. If anyone has not read the books, I highly recommend them. They present the dark, desperate, somber struggle that brought Gears of War to life. The stakes felt higher in the original trilogy. And the stories of the original characters are so well developed in the books. My dad knew nothing of the Gears story line, but he got hooked on the books and read all of them. That is the strength and depth this story HAD. I hope it can still have that in Gears 6. Not to be mean, but I dont understand why the series ever shifted focus off of Marcus. He has the most depth and pulls the most heart strings for fans. His son and Kait,etc. Could have still been included, but with Marcus driving the story. Just my opinion. Anyways, thanks for the video!!!
I’ve read on the wikia page that It wasn’t even JD’s initial decision to fire on the civilians. It was a direct order from Jinn that he knew he couldnt disobey. Because unlike Kait, JD knows that disobeying a direct order results in prison time. I can’t really confirm it cause I don’t know where the information comes from but that makes this whole terribly written plot device 10 times worse.
I felt like JD being the soldier in charge of the incident at Settlement 2, was straight character assassination in order to remove JD from main character status. Also, I really hated how Kait's headaches and essentially the ownership for the entire Swarm is not the same as hating someone else for their secret. JD can still guilty about what happened but he should know that is the kind of situation is likely to happen for the life of a soldier. I grew to hate Kait as a character.
What I heard was jd said the n word and ate meat in front of the vegan protesters, while burning a pride flag, while wearing a Trump hat, while listening to a joe Rogan podcast leaning against his Tesla and that’s what started the settlement 2 incident.
The writers must have felt so proud of being able to knock JD into a supporting role for Kait with "morality" in a Gears of War game where the theme is always to genocide a species into extinction for every game and where civilians/soldiers are fighting to survive through an apocalyptic world.
I guess Kate and del weren't real friends to JD I mean they turn their back on him as soon as they find out he kept a secret from them and did something they didnt agree with.
And it was a really stupid thing to get pissed at him for. Like it was horrible what happened but its not like they were minding there own business waving there signs. What was he supposed to do let them riot killing and destroying?
It’s just SJW bullshit. Like the protest thing in Gears is akin to BLM bullshit and this next wave of feminism is getting disgusting and taking everything over.
JD made the right call in settlement 2 the protesters started throwing fire bombs and gears would have seriously been injured or killed and had gears ran off or not attacked that would have emboldened the rioters and the COG would look weak To summarize the second you pick a weapon and attack a trained soldier you aren’t a civilian you’re an enemy combatant
Good point though, she literally kept her locust symbol secret from them. Affiliations with actions against armed rioters is worse than affiliations with a faction that almost drove humanity to extinction…
Making Kate the main character for this game wasn’t the worst idea though they didn’t have her play that role in the previous game, if it was meant to be a transition to her being the main character for the game. You can’t just go from having Kate as a supporting character to all of a sudden, she’s now the main protagonist and she doesn’t exactly play the role of it. If Kate were meant to have a bigger role, they could’ve had it where she becomes conflicted as she learns of what her destiny is, and let the players decide what choices they choose for Kate and see what unfolds afterwards.
I actually completely agree. I think that they should've stuck with the story of JD rather than Kait. Kait, in my opinion, acts like a teenager who knows nothing of the real world. She tries to find answers and all of that with Del in tow. But the plot is very unappealing to me because of the lackluster character development. Del, while being a bit more mature, is very one-dimensional in my eyes. After figuring out JD's secret he immediately turns hostile against him, and becomes Kait's little pet mainly. Which is not how a character should be, and quite honestly the story of Gears 5 was very dull in my eyes as well. I only really enjoyed the first and fourth act, not Acts 2 and 3. Even though there might've been action, this grows pale in comparison the original trilogy. The original Gears developers had a certain method for getting the story straight, and diverging from that method simply will make the story fragmented, unneeded, dull, and will feel like the identity of Gears itself has changed. Nobody gives a fuck about all this drama that goes between the characters, Humanity was on the brink of extinction, and now that the Swarm is back as the new Locust, there is no time for Kait to be finding answers in some god forsaken wasteland, and for Del to be Kait's lapdog and being hostile to JD. Del and JD have known eachother longer so it's complete nonsense that Del makes JD an enemy just because of some bullshit secret, who cares? The Gears Trilogy was NOT ABOUT KIDS WITH DRAMA ISSUES! THIS IS ABOUT A WAR WITH THE SWARM AND THE SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY! AS IT SHOULD BE! Anyway, the drama just gets extremely annoying and unneeded, if Kait had her priorities straight and if Del wasn't so pussy-strapped to Kait then Gears 5 would have never even happened.
Same, I kinda wanted JD to mirror marcus in a way, got scarred, failed to do the right thing (JD couldn't save lizzie while Marcus failed to save his father before gears 1), becoming more harden by war and loss, and losing their best friend (Del to JD and Dom to marcus).
In the old COG days, Kate would have been imprisoned for disobeying direct order. Even Marcus was thrown into the slab and endured hardships in the prison. Kate has had no military/political experience to take charge. The story writing is horrendous and a slap in the face for the respect the original trilogy built through hard work.
I wouldn't say Del is a "douche" but he was there for Kait out of the goodness of his heart and because he's the brains of the trio. I do agree with your Settlement 2 Massacre loophole. Del was present but somehow doesn't know that JD gave the greenlight to fire on the protest? Very weird. I do agree with everything else though, this campaign was a mess
the thing about the riot is that i dont hate jd in the slightest. like marcus said with that clip he did what he had to do and felt really bad about. he wasnt proud of that(a evil person would be Proud of that). but for some reason we are supposed to see him as a bad guy which is stupid. Edit: spell checks
I was hoping for more depth in this video to reveal more of the story, as I moved from Xbox to PS4 a few years ago but loved the gears games. Great points though and it angers me that we can only hope that Gears 6 makes the trilogy complete and full circle and that 4 and 5 were for a reason, whereas it hasn’t felt that way. Gears 1 was standalone and didn’t need sequels, but I’m glad they did because 2 and 3 were good games that continued the story. After 3, the story started to fizzle out for me. You shouldn’t have to keep buying another game to get closure in the story. Gears 4 just ended with a sour taste. Gears 1 and 2 were tough and it felt like a real accomplishment to finish these games because the story was right and the reasons for ‘fighting’ were justified, like with Dom’s wife or when Dom died. It’s just getting boring now though and I’m sure people are becoming disloyal to Gears, exactly in the same way that a new iPhone comes out and there’s really not a lot that’s different and we know another one will be coming out. There’s no real point in committing.
Finished all the gears, enjoyed each one of them, the 4th is at the bottom of the list to be honest, but the 5th ? Couldn't even swallow the first chapter...I tried to come back to it, but after 20 minutes deleted it again. For me this franchise is dead, RIP.
I know we will finish this story line in the next game. I would like to see a game about the pendulum wars and see a game from e day to Marcus being arrested. I have been a huge fan of the series for a very long time and recently read the books and they filled in so much information.
Grear video essay I agree with a lot of things but I kinda disagree with JD in some respects I think be evolved well in this game and I ended up liking him 10 fold more then 4, he actually has a SOLID arc or heroes journey unlike the other two and was redeemed so to speak when he joined the desert and in the end. Some aspects of the story just wrapped up WAY to quickly like kait severing her connection, niles, and the matriarch I was hoping to have more dead space 2 psychosis moments with kait as it was hyped up but only shown briefly. I see it like this. Compared to gears 4 the story is an 8.5 for me The story as a whole without influence I see it as a 7 to high 6. Kait as a protaganist is okay, I dont absolutely hate her in this one so she redeemed herself in a lot of respects to me but she was just fine. Which is bad you dont want fine to label your protaganist. Would god of war work if kratos was fine? No Del I 1000% agree with literally took me .2 milliseconds to decide his fate. I think he is the weakest by far of the new cast even though I really love the actors other work. Also as someone who is prior military who had had to make tough calls I understand what toll it takes to make a bad call or make the wrong choice in a panicking situation especially when inexperienced (literally the only thing different from a private to a 2nd lieutenant is a college degree and a hugh pay raise) Also didnt think about the unauthorized absence for kait and consequences very good point I didnt catch. But I love your video essays man keep it up you seem like the type of gears fan I can shoot the shit with at a bar for hours and debate/exchange ideas with gears
Embry Square I'm glad you enjoyed it, I too agree that J.D.'s Character improved a lot in Gears 5 and I consider myself now a fan of him after playing the story in Gears 5. He definitely has that "hero" quality similar to Marcus. I concur on Del and Kait. And yes I am a addict personally for conversation and debating, especially about Gears of War, it's a magnificent, very interesting Science Fiction Universe.
@@OMAHA16 I don't think Del is a simp but I will agree with you on Del being Little bit of a jerk Theo, what made him a jerk was when the script changed him from caring about JD to I'm steel mad at you not only that but we didn't get know much about him as well
Agreed. I enjoyed it a lot. But totally agree with your stances and POV on Kait and the end choice. Really annoyed me that JD was supposed to be hated. I was like...for what? They were throwing fire bombs. Lol. Wtf.
OMAHA16 - Machinima and Film yeah, so I immediately choose to save JD. Cuz it made no sense to just cast off JD. And he has actual back story that's eluded to. Unlike Del.
I couldn't agree more, hivebusters story was also bad, had fun In coop overall but they could take much cooler story directions. Them releasing a prequel story maybe even with flashbacks to the pendulum wars, something like that would literally free me from my mortal shackles
I disagree. Gears 4 wasnt about JD at all. It may have seemed that way. But Gears 4 story led up to it being about Kait's mother and her lineage to the antagonist therefore leading up to gears 5 and Kait's connection to the antagonist
@Jing Soo Cho I agree somewhat Only thing I'd disagree with is if they put Kait at the forefront from moment one, people would have seen the locust queen shit a year off. We all started to figure it out at points throughout the game, but if Kait was lead, it would have been obvious.
Man coming back years later. I still can't fucking stand Kait. JD wasn't amazing, but I liked him for what he was, I felt accidentally killing Carmine made him even more interesting and would have loved to see how he settled.
I’m finally burning thru this game. Which is sad cause I loved the original series. Read the books even had a Baird figure in my office. The settlement 2 just seemed lazy to me because Marcus disobeyed orders, lost his career and had redemption. For this one they just jd followed orders lost his career and needed redemption. They tried to create a parallel theme with out understanding the actual story. It’s a find and replace game.
I saw things slightly different or perhaps you didn't touch on certain details. JD had kept quiet about his involvement with settlement 2 which had led to del leaving the cog in G4. It's in the mine scene....when jd says "when you wanted to leave the cog I trusted you and went" When he learns of jds lies that when the relationship falls apart
Jd didnt lie tho. Also what was jd supposed to do let them burn the city down while killing evryone in sight? Its pretty dumb to get upset about. Not saying it wasnt horrible what happend but its not like they were just trying to mind there own business.
Gears needs a soft reboot. Drop the numbers, call it “Gears of War (like God of War did) and get back to the gritty, filthy and dark Gears we grew up on.
I mean no one told the rioters to assualt cog forces that's sort of their fault that's like me hitting a bear with a bat with the intent to kill and the bear would be wrong in using deadly force back
After having done both, I think what is canon is Del dying so we can probably resume the role of JD again. Personally I want Del to live but I'll explain that in a second. The ONLY thing I want from JD living is for him to reenact gears 3, stabbing the queen, saying "You feel that? That's from Del, and everyone else you killed you bitch." Now, personally I want Del to live because JD's death left such a heart breaking impact especially on Marcus. I think this makes for more emotional storytelling since what we feel for this squad in no way compares what we felt for the OG Delta squad, and this would take it to a whole other level.
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp I don't think that's bowing down to the leftist mob. It makes sense why Kait would now be the main character. The leader of the locust is queen Myrrah. We've known this since Gears 2. It makes sense that her daughter would replace her and her granddaughter would now be the most important puzzle piece of the story. That story arch has existed since 2008.
@@lawman34 do not cite the lore to me I have been playing gears of war since gears 2 came out Ive replayed that game a concerning number of times I can recite word for word the opening and Hoffman speeches I'm not bringing leftist or right into this cuz Im not American so my definitions differ from yours greatly. Marcus stole the screen everytime he appeared and the moment his became even mildly interesting he was villified and sidelined
So what would you rather have then ? Continuation of the Marcus and JD stories ? They've had 3 main entries where they were front and center what is there left to say? The ending of GOW 4 was actually the setup to GOW 5. They hid the most important character of the new trilogy, one which reveals deep lore implication in plain view to only reveal it at the end thus setting up GOW 5 with Kait as the main protagonist. Feels like you're not understanding the complete timeline to me.
we all know why kate did not get punish when she disobey orders its because shes a women and women can do no wrong damn what happen to strong females like ayna (do not know if thats how you spell it) but yeah its annoying after playing the first four (im counting judgement as four and judgement is a fun game) i saw that they put needless or illogical emotions in the storyline for story stake and it is annoying
Wait til the next next generation comes out with their remake of GOW 1-3. Storylines of a generation define. Cant be duplicated. Only created. We want great stories to continue. Rarely do they pan out because of multiple criteria thats fan-driven. Then to add to that, we say we miss the great games, but the dedicated actually replay. We're like kids who want another bedtime story and dont want to sleep before the next wake up call to reality. Loved the first 3. Just dont have the time for more, but critics aside, all the best for what they come up with. Marcus for life, but we all know he grown old. So are we....👍
All men know they put her as a protagonist cuz she is a woman and had to make the history based on that and not the other way around. Anyone that denies it is a beta.
Good. Thought I was the only one thinking JD isn’t a bad guy cause he used his authority to make a very hard and tough decision that I’d very real world based 🤣
Despiye gears of war having been in my top 5 favorite series of all time... im really glad i never got 5. 4 was fun and not a bad story and even loved the console special edition. But there was something about it that just made me uninterested. There are maps in 4 iv never played and i think im like lvl 4 in horde. 5 iv played even less. But had no problems having to start over on gears 1 2 and 3. Other than no longer haveing my beta unlocks especially the golden retro. Even got almost evrything maxed out in horde. But have a really hard time with those 2. I think its because the "swarm" being as dumb as the name. That and basically destroying the previous games. All the sacrifices and the perfect end to a perfect series being pointlessly continued. I also hate that the swarm can turn humans into them. Its weird and dumb.
You know what pisses me off is how the carmines have been treated and where the fuck is clayton at in the final cutscene because he is with us in the final boss fight
"The story almost entirely revolves around the hammer of dawn" Oh... again? What a surprise. And Diaz is in charge because she's a woman of color, wooooeeee
I’m gonna be honest, after the ice level I completely forgot what the main goal even was.....then someone brought up the Hammer of Dawn and I was like “Oh Yea! That’s what we were doing all of this for.”
Most people decided to save JD because of Marcus. The poor guy had lost just about everything at that point and it would’ve been too cruel to allow his lame son to die too. Neither Del or JD were good enough characters to really root for so the gamer community had to look at the characters around them and decide whose death would affect the universe at large greater then the other and make a choice base on that incentive.
Ya i got that from early on couldn't even get through act 2 after that complete 180 from jd just after that stupid settlement 2 crap. Like bruh what was he supposed to do?
I remember an advertisement for Gears of War 3 or more so a slogan in a series of ads that said "Brothers to the end"... yeh so much for that shit here. Dom and Marcus BOTH did fucked up things, by Gears 1 they were both hardened veterans of the Pendulum Wars and had been fighting the locust since E day for 13 years, although technically Marcus was in prison for a long while. The point is along the s=way they both did fucked up shit, some of it out of anger or in the throws of a mania for blood, other times because they were soft hearted and couldn't do what was necessary. Neither of them turned their backs on each other, they were always there for one another in all things, good times, bad times, laughing and grieving, it was never a question of having to accept the faults of the other because they just did it, paragons of loyalty and brotherhood... Gears 5 had a story more suited for DND. It continued to shit on the franchise and what was made, for Gods sake they should have just made a different cast and set their story in the Gears franchise in the time of Marcus's imprisonment or something in a more interesting, already known time instead of this shit sandwich
You couldn’t save both of them or choose between Kate because the queen. WAS MAKING KATE CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO GUYS. The queen could have easily killed all of them lol
it really is just summed up in that narrative shift, they wanted a female lead or were forced to for sake of inclusion and it shows in her 180 in her attitude and role and pushing aside any other person to the point they even try to kill them off like a sane person would choose to kill JD and ruin Marcus's entire story from the first trilogy just for her the RBF of her combine with hair change and attitude to every single person while she disobeys with no consequence tells you what u need to know on once again diversity push, take something old as a trojan horse to agendas and use as a shield to criticism Gears tragic death at coalitions hands, like Halo, they need to let these brands die than try to keep afloat like silent hill and how that didn't work out for them after team silent
Well the fans wanted to know more about queen myrrah. So it looks like a white male is horrible and all the other chars are people of colour. did they pick up some modern politics? Don't get me wrong but i really enjoyed the campaign but it was indeed... strange to switch... they skip too much in the story. And I also wonder which decision DEL / JD in the campaign is canon. I bet JD and an end to the Fenix Story. I think gears have soften up a lot. even removing the War from the title. I also Killed Del even i loved his character more in Gears 5. I reallly hoped they only kill 1 char even if you choose 1 of the 2... It almost looks like they want to stop the lore and finish So they can focus more on Macrotransactions.
Yeah pretty much demonize white dudes and random people of other races. I really hated choosing between JD or Del it was just fuking dumb. Of course Del is dead they always kill the black guy too lmao so we are in the same boat. White dudes get shafted n black dudes either become side characters following WHAMEN around or we get killed
Gears of War was all about a storyline of brotherhood through thick and thin during horrific events, and should stay like that. Not this bs ass gender diverse empowerment propaganda the corporates are forcing down our eyes.... Hope The Coalition follows 343 Industries steps and listens to their fanbase who stuck by this franchise we known and loved for what it USED to be, but changed for the worst...
V A L 100 percent agreed that’s why I stuck with the original 3 only. not this gender propaganda bs I’m hoping gears of war 6 turns out better but I doubt it honestly
Honestly if you ask me instead of saying this is gears 5 why not call it gears of war bound by blood and make this a side story about Kati instead then make gears 5 I’m pretty sure it would make more since if the the game was just about Kati instead and then making gears 5 and 6 about jd
For one, Del volunteered to follow Kate and ended up dying without getting some Nam Nam 3000, for 2, players feel comfortable with killing Del at the end because he had no significance to the story and since they had a Hispanic female riders felt that it was too many minorities in the pot, for 3 jackpot was psyching himself out to save a bunch of people including Kate who called him a bucket of bolts
I love gears of war. And to be honest, I can understand your points and views. I'm a massive fan of gears of war, so even if the story isn't the greatest, I'll always want a next game. Gears of war, is a game franchise is the type I never want to die. I want this to keep on going.
I feel the exact same, if if the story isn't great or has direction the gameplay is so good, and the designs of the world are amazing that I would Gears for that simple fact alone, also I love the design of the warden favorite Swarm design by far
I ended up watching this video because i just cant get through the story of 5. I played all of them in a row and 5 just feels boring and poorly written.
I know this is a year late, however I kind of disagree with what you said about Del as far as his Gears 5 counterpart. Del was basically the glue of the trio, and Del being angry with JD over what happened at Settlement 2 is kind of justified but at the same time this is also due to the game's writing. Right before you complete the Settlement 2 mission when Fahz is still picking on Del, Cole comments on how he heard about the incident and asks if JD, Fahz and Del had anything to do with the event. Del confirms he took no part of it implying he was present for JD giving the order to open fire on the protest. Still weird but yeah
I just played through the JD section in Gears 5 and yeah Del was definitely not the glue of the trio that would imply he was neutral about JD's decision during the settlement 2 incident, understanding JD's hard decision and being a least a little glad his best friend didn't burn to death that day but would still be unhappy with JD's actions. Del didn't do that and basically sided with Fahz and Kait (even the Cole Train 😞) into hating JD throughout the entire story.
I'm just going to say this I respect your opinion but the whole situation with Kate maybe this is good because the queen side and her origin of the story and this is even better because maybe we can see what went down and they going to probably mention stuff that we did not know about the queen through Kate's Adventure now when you sit there and said there was trying to reject JD know they wasn't I mean that was your choice to reject JD I didn't cuz I understand he had to do what he had to do cuz I do government security as well so I understand but also like Marcus told him stop trying to prove yourself just do the job but think before you make a choice and JD wasn't good at that thinking before he made a choice at least he admits his mistakes and try to make up for it but I don't think on Gears 5 they were trying to have people to reject him it was just the fact that his choices cause problems and yet it did it again when Carmine's niece got killed and the situation that went down that was the problem there so I'm not really going to judge about what happened at settlement to because I really didn't read up on it or we didn't see it I hope they make a DLC for it in the future for the next Gears of War and that'll be pretty cool which they should have done it on this one but it is what it is so that's just my opinion about the situation she still kind of young all I'm still kind of young and as time went on she will probably mature more and understand her power or where she has probably and maybe this is what they trying to do to uncover the origin of the queen what really went down like the term say there's two sides to every story and that's how gears is
The story in its whole is flawed. From writting to execution. Characters are just horrible compared to the first 3. I mean name me scenes in 4-5 that rival thai killing himself, dom finding his wife. Dom dying. Everything you say we "could get from kates story in gears 6" we already know from the books or extended lore in game.
PHILIP WATSON 5 To be Honest dear viewer, when I first played through Gears 5 I had no idea what I was just played. Everything about these sequels is a dumb as a bag of a Ryan johnson's plot.
Gow is the greatest game ever. Good story line. I stopped playing gow4 after a few missions. The atory should stay about the locust. Its could be a endless good story. Now waiting for gow5 is installed. Just give it a try anyway
late but when it comes to the kait situation it’s understandable why Jd gets the shit he gets even if he had to do it he ordered others to fire at people, and kait becoming the protagonist makes sense considering the plotline revolves her and her bloodeline.
That’s what we mean the choice of turning this into Kait’s story feels sudden and also feels very black and white given the somber tone of the whole series
Just because Kait is a Rey Palpatine doesn’t mean making the story center around her was a good idea. Just like how the Star Wars sequels would’ve been better if Finn was the protagonist, a former storm trooper turned Jedi, Gears 4 and 5 would be if JD was the main protagonist, a former Gear following V-Day who was forced to do some fucked up shit. Both would require restructuring, such as making so that Finn wasn’t just a janitor in SW’s case, and so that JD and the COG weren’t in the right for shooting back at people throwing Molotov’s at them in Gear’s case, but even just getting rid of Rey Palpatine and Queen Kait entirely is a great start.
What did you all think about #Gears5 's Story/Campaign? Personally the story was too uneven and inconsistent. Plus, the developers need to officially decide who's leading the narrative here. Because Kait was only front and center due to that necklace at the end of "4", which was completely pointless and did nothing at all in Gears 5. Regardless if the developers are all in on Kait Diaz, they need to give us better reasons to root for her besides shoehorning her in as this big Gears of War Champion.
I literally agree with every point you stated. Only thing I would have added is profanity and buzzwords but that's just me. This video is perfect, dont change your style!
@Captain Obvious!!! well it’s clear the fans don’t like kaite I don’t like her eather she has no character she is like the abby from the last of us 2 just there to pls the sjws and so what if her grandmother was the queen the queen was a much better charter than her,and not to mention kait is like the story is like ima stick it to the the man men are bad type crap. Gears 4 and 5 have killed the gears series just like how the last of us 2 killed the last the last of us series
@@whitaker36 clearly you have jumped on the band wagon this has nothing to do with the sjws i personally didn’t like gears 5 I’ve played all of them and loved nearly all of them the gears storyline have always had strong female characters so I don’t get why you have brought in the sjws you seem like one of those young kids that hates something to fit in without actually looking at it from different perspectives
@@brispybonbords4600 if you watch Omaha16's "the problem with Kait in Gears of War" he talks about the devs propping Kait up as revolutionary but we already had Anya & Sam. He even provides articles from games media talking about how Kait's a woman in gears or whatever. So yea sjw's took that and ran with it. She's kinda gears Abby
i don’t really see why people have a problem with Katie i haven’t heard any valid argument because of her connection with the locust its understandable that she takes a main role
Gears of War is experiencing the DisneyLucasFilm effect.
Not really. They respect the origins and don’t disrespect the fans lmao
@@wifine1951 You literally have an option to kill the previous main protagonist son... Not sure how that is respecting the origin. I will admit it doesn't seem like they are attacking fans.
Basically went woke. "With rEsPeCt tHe wAhMeN" and white man bad..😒
@@coreymckee4844 thats exactly what i got from it with the end of act 1 and beginning of act 2.
And why i stoped playing it by myself
Its shit. They need to stop stretching shit out until everyone hates it, and just come up with something new. So tired of seeing my favorite trilogies get ruined with cash grab additions.
Plus they always gotta have a WOMAN OF COLOR HERO which just feels so forced.
What's funny is that even with the focus on Kate, I personally feel JD got way more fleshed out in 5. Considering everyone refers to the "Settlement 2 incident" in the previous game as some atrocity committed by the COG, it's unsurprising that JD would struggle to open up to his friends about it; you see them recoil and look at him with disgust in that final scene before the Swarm attack, aside from Marcus who just looks at him with sympathy. As Del points out later, I'm pretty sure Marcus realised JD's involvement and gave his son the benefit of the doubt.
And with those scars still fresh, coupled with the condemnation from Kait and Del, JD risks, or possibly intends to sacrifice his own life in an effort to use the hammer to stop the Swarm. Both here and in the previous Settlement 2 incident, I'd argue JD's actions likely saved a lot more lives than the alternative. However, he clearly feels the weight of those decisions and shoulders that burden alone, ashamed to face the others after waking up. Him becoming "so COG" as Kait puts it, is likely due to him losing faith in his own Judgement, following orders and allowing others to make the harder decisions. Right up until he learns about the events in Mount Kadar from Marcus, which seems to partially snap him back to his old self.
That's why JD is my favourite of the new trio. He's flawed. He's human and more fleshed out than the others. (Although Faz certainly grew on me when he tagged along with JD in act 3)
Marcus looked at him with sympathy cause soldiers have to make decisions hard decisions civies don’t like JD made hard call and it was the right call the rioters began using fire bombs on gears
What was JD supposed to do let rioters seriously hurt and kill his fellow gears? Run off making COG look weak and would embolden the rioters
I swear del and kait are little children
@@GnosisZX Agreed. And It's worse in Del's case since he was there. How the hell is his account of events so different from JD and Faz, who don't even see eye to eye on most things at that point? Del was a soldier and he was there. As much of an asshole as Faz was, his frustration with Del is completely understandable.
And Del continues to annoy me throughout the game; even when Kait acknowledges how badly she's messed up, Del literally argues she did nothing wrong. Because that's all his character boils down to.
It's weird too because if the protesters were throwing firebombs and putting lives in danger, JD and Fahz were well within jurisdiction to eliminate the threat. But it feels like the game tries so hard to make you hate JD.
@@unlimitedninja3635 It just highlights how bad these people write. They unintentionally make the characters they want you to like unbearable and the ones they want you to hate into more fleshed out and relatable characters.
I will say to you that I've noticed that the writing was broken, probably the edition killed most of it, it looks like they add things without a better thinking, is not that difficult to solve that plot, they wanted to change the main character? Fine, just take JD out of the field, make him get a promotion for his actions and be more like a higher ranking officer or something, still important, like his mother was in the first two games, that would eliminate the choice scene, that doesn't fit Gears, that is more like Wolfenstein and is obvious that they took from it, also obvious that was a last minute change, same with JD in the field, I thought he would be out for the rest of the game, and I guess that was the ideia originally, he was out than at the end he shows up to save the day or something with some leading role, thsr would be a WAY better development, I still think that the Queen stuff was stupid, they should've just make the Swarm a locust without a Queen, but I digress.
The fact that queen myrrah comes back in Gears 5 completely spits in the face of her death in Gears of War 3, it’s on the same level of bad writing as Cortana dying in Halo 4, only to miraculously come back in Halo 5 but as a villain........just *why* .
Black _Heart74
To milk a franchise dry dear viewer. Instead of putting the work in to create something new.
@@OMAHA16 I'll still say till this day that it should have ended with Gears of War 3, franchise has turned into such a joke.
@@OMAHA16 the problem is they had something new. i was so excited to face off against the cog as sort of a rogue militia group. was anticipating playing as the new generations of gears, led by the son of Marcus Fenix, vs the evil dictatorship that the cog were turning into after winning the locust war. but instead of going that direction, they resurrect the locust and then shoehorn in kait as the granddaughter of queen myrrah randomly just to make a "strong, female character" the protagonist.
because you need a grey warden to kill the archdemon
I honestly blame Rod Ferguson. He's ruins Gears 4 for alot of people, and he tries Ruining Gears 5 but now there's a new developer and if I'm not wrong Cliff Blezinski from the first OG 3 games(Including Judgement) is coming back to fix and create A LOT more for GEARS 6
really? I would be happy
Edit: Looked after it and yes he said that he wants to come back to the gears
He’s not coming back
@@Boone69 cliffy b is an asshole but I think he knows gears best. That’s all he knows
This was a great take on Gears 5. If anyone has not read the books, I highly recommend them. They present the dark, desperate, somber struggle that brought Gears of War to life. The stakes felt higher in the original trilogy. And the stories of the original characters are so well developed in the books. My dad knew nothing of the Gears story line, but he got hooked on the books and read all of them. That is the strength and depth this story HAD. I hope it can still have that in Gears 6. Not to be mean, but I dont understand why the series ever shifted focus off of Marcus. He has the most depth and pulls the most heart strings for fans. His son and Kait,etc. Could have still been included, but with Marcus driving the story. Just my opinion.
Anyways, thanks for the video!!!
There are books!? 🤯
@@michaelhackman895 Yes, and they are great read! I found the whole set at Barnes & Noble but I'm sure you can find them online.
The first three games are the best ones
The opening cutscene and chairman prescott' speech give me more emotional impact than this game
Facts
Still better than judgment
@@amplifiedspoon7922 true everything is better than that
Yeah man!
JD did nothing wrong. Protesters threw firebombs at soldiers and then got mad when they used lethal force against them then played the victim... 🤨
I’ve read on the wikia page that It wasn’t even JD’s initial decision to fire on the civilians. It was a direct order from Jinn that he knew he couldnt disobey. Because unlike Kait, JD knows that disobeying a direct order results in prison time. I can’t really confirm it cause I don’t know where the information comes from but that makes this whole terribly written plot device 10 times worse.
I felt like JD being the soldier in charge of the incident at Settlement 2, was straight character assassination in order to remove JD from main character status.
Also, I really hated how Kait's headaches and essentially the ownership for the entire Swarm is not the same as hating someone else for their secret. JD can still guilty about what happened but he should know that is the kind of situation is likely to happen for the life of a soldier.
I grew to hate Kait as a character.
What I heard was jd said the n word and ate meat in front of the vegan protesters, while burning a pride flag, while wearing a Trump hat, while listening to a joe Rogan podcast leaning against his Tesla and that’s what started the settlement 2 incident.
@@aaronstanley474wtf? I love JD now!😮
@@aaronstanley474so he’s the best character ever
The writers must have felt so proud of being able to knock JD into a supporting role for Kait with "morality" in a Gears of War game where the theme is always to genocide a species into extinction for every game and where civilians/soldiers are fighting to survive through an apocalyptic world.
I guess Kate and del weren't real friends to JD I mean they turn their back on him as soon as they find out he kept a secret from them and did something they didnt agree with.
And it was a really stupid thing to get pissed at him for. Like it was horrible what happened but its not like they were minding there own business waving there signs.
What was he supposed to do let them riot killing and destroying?
Yeah even after kait showed them a fucking LOCUST Symbol
It’s just SJW bullshit. Like the protest thing in Gears is akin to BLM bullshit and this next wave of feminism is getting disgusting and taking everything over.
JD made the right call in settlement 2 the protesters started throwing fire bombs and gears would have seriously been injured or killed and had gears ran off or not attacked that would have emboldened the rioters and the COG would look weak
To summarize the second you pick a weapon and attack a trained soldier you aren’t a civilian you’re an enemy combatant
Good point though, she literally kept her locust symbol secret from them. Affiliations with actions against armed rioters is worse than affiliations with a faction that almost drove humanity to extinction…
Making Kate the main character for this game wasn’t the worst idea though they didn’t have her play that role in the previous game, if it was meant to be a transition to her being the main character for the game. You can’t just go from having Kate as a supporting character to all of a sudden, she’s now the main protagonist and she doesn’t exactly play the role of it. If Kate were meant to have a bigger role, they could’ve had it where she becomes conflicted as she learns of what her destiny is, and let the players decide what choices they choose for Kate and see what unfolds afterwards.
I actually completely agree. I think that they should've stuck with the story of JD rather than Kait. Kait, in my opinion, acts like a teenager who knows nothing of the real world. She tries to find answers and all of that with Del in tow. But the plot is very unappealing to me because of the lackluster character development. Del, while being a bit more mature, is very one-dimensional in my eyes. After figuring out JD's secret he immediately turns hostile against him, and becomes Kait's little pet mainly. Which is not how a character should be, and quite honestly the story of Gears 5 was very dull in my eyes as well. I only really enjoyed the first and fourth act, not Acts 2 and 3. Even though there might've been action, this grows pale in comparison the original trilogy. The original Gears developers had a certain method for getting the story straight, and diverging from that method simply will make the story fragmented, unneeded, dull, and will feel like the identity of Gears itself has changed. Nobody gives a fuck about all this drama that goes between the characters, Humanity was on the brink of extinction, and now that the Swarm is back as the new Locust, there is no time for Kait to be finding answers in some god forsaken wasteland, and for Del to be Kait's lapdog and being hostile to JD. Del and JD have known eachother longer so it's complete nonsense that Del makes JD an enemy just because of some bullshit secret, who cares? The Gears Trilogy was NOT ABOUT KIDS WITH DRAMA ISSUES! THIS IS ABOUT A WAR WITH THE SWARM AND THE SURVIVAL OF HUMANITY! AS IT SHOULD BE! Anyway, the drama just gets extremely annoying and unneeded, if Kait had her priorities straight and if Del wasn't so pussy-strapped to Kait then Gears 5 would have never even happened.
Ashe Game exactly this new trilogy should be a repeat of everything the original trilogy did!!!
"Look at how they massacred my boy" me after watching 4-5 after stopping at judgement day. Ps gamer now but gears will ALWAYS be my origin story
Personnaly, I've only saved JD because it's the Marcus son's and don't want to see Marcus lost an another member of his family.
Agree! Plus like he said del became a douch
Same, I kinda wanted JD to mirror marcus in a way, got scarred, failed to do the right thing (JD couldn't save lizzie while Marcus failed to save his father before gears 1), becoming more harden by war and loss, and losing their best friend (Del to JD and Dom to marcus).
In the old COG days, Kate would have been imprisoned for disobeying direct order. Even Marcus was thrown into the slab and endured hardships in the prison.
Kate has had no military/political experience to take charge. The story writing is horrendous and a slap in the face for the respect the original trilogy built through hard work.
I’d still choose Judgement over 4 and 5.
I wouldn't say Del is a "douche" but he was there for Kait out of the goodness of his heart and because he's the brains of the trio. I do agree with your Settlement 2 Massacre loophole. Del was present but somehow doesn't know that JD gave the greenlight to fire on the protest? Very weird. I do agree with everything else though, this campaign was a mess
As soon as they tried to make me hate JD I started to like him … I chose him over Del in that end game moment
the thing about the riot is that i dont hate jd in the slightest. like marcus said with that clip he did what he had to do and felt really bad about. he wasnt proud of that(a evil person would be Proud of that). but for some reason we are supposed to see him as a bad guy which is stupid.
Edit: spell checks
I was hoping for more depth in this video to reveal more of the story, as I moved from Xbox to PS4 a few years ago but loved the gears games. Great points though and it angers me that we can only hope that Gears 6 makes the trilogy complete and full circle and that 4 and 5 were for a reason, whereas it hasn’t felt that way. Gears 1 was standalone and didn’t need sequels, but I’m glad they did because 2 and 3 were good games that continued the story. After 3, the story started to fizzle out for me. You shouldn’t have to keep buying another game to get closure in the story. Gears 4 just ended with a sour taste. Gears 1 and 2 were tough and it felt like a real accomplishment to finish these games because the story was right and the reasons for ‘fighting’ were justified, like with Dom’s wife or when Dom died. It’s just getting boring now though and I’m sure people are becoming disloyal to Gears, exactly in the same way that a new iPhone comes out and there’s really not a lot that’s different and we know another one will be coming out. There’s no real point in committing.
I don’t like how they did JD he was a good guy making tuff decisions
Finished all the gears, enjoyed each one of them, the 4th is at the bottom of the list to be honest, but the 5th ? Couldn't even swallow the first chapter...I tried to come back to it, but after 20 minutes deleted it again. For me this franchise is dead, RIP.
My question is why the hell is the new Queen exposed to danger in the attack makes no sense. The previous one only fought when was absolutly necesary.
Also Kate killed her in 4.
I know we will finish this story line in the next game. I would like to see a game about the pendulum wars and see a game from e day to Marcus being arrested. I have been a huge fan of the series for a very long time and recently read the books and they filled in so much information.
Grear video essay I agree with a lot of things but I kinda disagree with JD in some respects I think be evolved well in this game and I ended up liking him 10 fold more then 4, he actually has a SOLID arc or heroes journey unlike the other two and was redeemed so to speak when he joined the desert and in the end. Some aspects of the story just wrapped up WAY to quickly like kait severing her connection, niles, and the matriarch I was hoping to have more dead space 2 psychosis moments with kait as it was hyped up but only shown briefly. I see it like this.
Compared to gears 4 the story is an 8.5 for me
The story as a whole without influence I see it as a 7 to high 6.
Kait as a protaganist is okay, I dont absolutely hate her in this one so she redeemed herself in a lot of respects to me but she was just fine. Which is bad you dont want fine to label your protaganist.
Would god of war work if kratos was fine? No
Del I 1000% agree with literally took me .2 milliseconds to decide his fate. I think he is the weakest by far of the new cast even though I really love the actors other work.
Also as someone who is prior military who had had to make tough calls I understand what toll it takes to make a bad call or make the wrong choice in a panicking situation especially when inexperienced (literally the only thing different from a private to a 2nd lieutenant is a college degree and a hugh pay raise)
Also didnt think about the unauthorized absence for kait and consequences very good point I didnt catch.
But I love your video essays man keep it up you seem like the type of gears fan I can shoot the shit with at a bar for hours and debate/exchange ideas with gears
Embry Square
I'm glad you enjoyed it, I too agree that J.D.'s Character improved a lot in Gears 5 and I consider myself now a fan of him after playing the story in Gears 5. He definitely has that "hero" quality similar to Marcus. I concur on Del and Kait. And yes I am a addict personally for conversation and debating, especially about Gears of War, it's a magnificent, very interesting Science Fiction Universe.
@@OMAHA16 I don't think Del is a simp but I will agree with you on Del being Little bit of a jerk Theo, what made him a jerk was when the script changed him from caring about JD to I'm steel mad at you not only that but we didn't get know much about him as well
Tremendous video!! I cannot Express how amazingly your input, editing and overall video is! Keep up the great work and dont defect!!
TheGearsProdigy
Thank You as always Comrade, will do.
Agreed. I enjoyed it a lot. But totally agree with your stances and POV on Kait and the end choice.
Really annoyed me that JD was supposed to be hated. I was like...for what? They were throwing fire bombs. Lol. Wtf.
YourDevastator
My thoughts the same on J.D. it didn't make any sense at all for him to be treated like that.
OMAHA16 - Machinima and Film yeah, so I immediately choose to save JD. Cuz it made no sense to just cast off JD. And he has actual back story that's eluded to. Unlike Del.
@kristopherprime9837 completely agree!
I couldn't agree more, hivebusters story was also bad, had fun In coop overall but they could take much cooler story directions.
Them releasing a prequel story maybe even with flashbacks to the pendulum wars, something like that would literally free me from my mortal shackles
I disagree. Gears 4 wasnt about JD at all. It may have seemed that way. But Gears 4 story led up to it being about Kait's mother and her lineage to the antagonist therefore leading up to gears 5 and Kait's connection to the antagonist
@Jing Soo Cho woke
@Jing Soo Cho I agree somewhat
Only thing I'd disagree with is if they put Kait at the forefront from moment one, people would have seen the locust queen shit a year off. We all started to figure it out at points throughout the game, but if Kait was lead, it would have been obvious.
Man coming back years later.
I still can't fucking stand Kait.
JD wasn't amazing, but I liked him for what he was, I felt accidentally killing Carmine made him even more interesting and would have loved to see how he settled.
I’m finally burning thru this game. Which is sad cause I loved the original series. Read the books even had a Baird figure in my office. The settlement 2 just seemed lazy to me because Marcus disobeyed orders, lost his career and had redemption. For this one they just jd followed orders lost his career and needed redemption. They tried to create a parallel theme with out understanding the actual story. It’s a find and replace game.
I just want to play as Mark P again. Kate me me me all about me eyes on me people pay attention. Story would have been better if JD was with Kate.
I saw things slightly different or perhaps you didn't touch on certain details. JD had kept quiet about his involvement with settlement 2 which had led to del leaving the cog in G4. It's in the mine scene....when jd says "when you wanted to leave the cog I trusted you and went"
When he learns of jds lies that when the relationship falls apart
Jd didnt lie tho. Also what was jd supposed to do let them burn the city down while killing evryone in sight? Its pretty dumb to get upset about. Not saying it wasnt horrible what happend but its not like they were just trying to mind there own business.
Del is a simp. Glad I chose to save JD
Kait could've been a good protagonist just awful sjw writing which unfortunately is in all kinds of media and franchises now.
Gears needs a soft reboot. Drop the numbers, call it “Gears of War (like God of War did) and get back to the gritty, filthy and dark Gears we grew up on.
I mean no one told the rioters to assualt cog forces that's sort of their fault that's like me hitting a bear with a bat with the intent to kill and the bear would be wrong in using deadly force back
Jack’s death/sacrifice in the end was way harder than del’s
I laughed when the kids brought up debating protesters in the beginning of the campaign.
The campaign on Insane was so frustrating. Had to go back to "Experienced" difficulty.
After having done both, I think what is canon is Del dying so we can probably resume the role of JD again. Personally I want Del to live but I'll explain that in a second. The ONLY thing I want from JD living is for him to reenact gears 3, stabbing the queen, saying "You feel that? That's from Del, and everyone else you killed you bitch."
Now, personally I want Del to live because JD's death left such a heart breaking impact especially on Marcus. I think this makes for more emotional storytelling since what we feel for this squad in no way compares what we felt for the OG Delta squad, and this would take it to a whole other level.
Why don’t allow to see both decisions like mass effect and the especially the suffering did
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp I don't think that's bowing down to the leftist mob. It makes sense why Kait would now be the main character. The leader of the locust is queen Myrrah. We've known this since Gears 2. It makes sense that her daughter would replace her and her granddaughter would now be the most important puzzle piece of the story. That story arch has existed since 2008.
@@lawman34 do not cite the lore to me I have been playing gears of war since gears 2 came out Ive replayed that game a concerning number of times I can recite word for word the opening and Hoffman speeches
I'm not bringing leftist or right into this cuz Im not American so my definitions differ from yours greatly.
Marcus stole the screen everytime he appeared and the moment his became even mildly interesting he was villified and sidelined
@@AdityaSingh-lp5rp I've been playing since GOW 1. What's your point? The Kait story arch fits and isn't a political stunt to include women in a game.
@@lawman34 it doesnt matter if it fits or not, every other character was either sidelined or made subservient
Kate is a false protagonist well said brother.
Gears 6 is not happening and I won't be surprised if the studio goes bankrupt
Best thing about gears 5 is that we get to see UIR Country with UIR vehicles
Gears to me ended after 3, should have done prequels instead
Nice vid man, glad i check it out.
Deva Pein
I'm glad you enjoyed it kind sir.
Very well put together, very informative and entertaining!
Kate, Kate skywalker.
I wish this video has been divided into two sub videos. One that does the analysis and other that provides a story line as is.
So what would you rather have then ? Continuation of the Marcus and JD stories ? They've had 3 main entries where they were front and center what is there left to say? The ending of GOW 4 was actually the setup to GOW 5. They hid the most important character of the new trilogy, one which reveals deep lore implication in plain view to only reveal it at the end thus setting up GOW 5 with Kait as the main protagonist.
Feels like you're not understanding the complete timeline to me.
Duh! of course, it's about JD. The Fenix legacy. They made a whole Phoenix OMen as tribute to him, why the hell not?
we all know why kate did not get punish when she disobey orders its because shes a women and women can do no wrong damn what happen to strong females like ayna (do not know if thats how you spell it) but yeah its annoying after playing the first four (im counting judgement as four and judgement is a fun game) i saw that they put needless or illogical emotions in the storyline for story stake and it is annoying
Del a simp. JD and Marcus are the real story
Wait til the next next generation comes out with their remake of GOW 1-3. Storylines of a generation define. Cant be duplicated. Only created.
We want great stories to continue. Rarely do they pan out because of multiple criteria thats fan-driven. Then to add to that, we say we miss the great games, but the dedicated actually replay. We're like kids who want another bedtime story and dont want to sleep before the next wake up call to reality.
Loved the first 3. Just dont have the time for more, but critics aside, all the best for what they come up with. Marcus for life, but we all know he grown old. So are we....👍
One day I’m gonna be working for gears and I’ll bring it back to the glory days.
All men know they put her as a protagonist cuz she is a woman and had to make the history based on that and not the other way around. Anyone that denies it is a beta.
Excellent breakdown of this video thank you very much
Good. Thought I was the only one thinking JD isn’t a bad guy cause he used his authority to make a very hard and tough decision that I’d very real world based 🤣
Great Review, very spot on. Thank you.
Can you do a breakdown of judgment also that was one of my favorite games
Well it’s about “woman power” …. Watch Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, any Marvel movie in the last 3 years, there is your answer.
I'm not playing this woke gears. Gears of war 3 is the finale of the game.
Didn't the coalition also confirm there was going to be a gears 7
Why?
Despiye gears of war having been in my top 5 favorite series of all time... im really glad i never got 5. 4 was fun and not a bad story and even loved the console special edition. But there was something about it that just made me uninterested. There are maps in 4 iv never played and i think im like lvl 4 in horde.
5 iv played even less.
But had no problems having to start over on gears 1 2 and 3. Other than no longer haveing my beta unlocks especially the golden retro. Even got almost evrything maxed out in horde. But have a really hard time with those 2.
I think its because the "swarm" being as dumb as the name. That and basically destroying the previous games. All the sacrifices and the perfect end to a perfect series being pointlessly continued. I also hate that the swarm can turn humans into them. Its weird and dumb.
You know what pisses me off is how the carmines have been treated and where the fuck is clayton at in the final cutscene because he is with us in the final boss fight
jack had so many tools to stop Rayna
JD was always right.
"The story almost entirely revolves around the hammer of dawn"
Oh... again? What a surprise.
And Diaz is in charge because she's a woman of color, wooooeeee
Kate Diaz looks white.
I’m gonna be honest, after the ice level I completely forgot what the main goal even was.....then someone brought up the Hammer of Dawn and I was like “Oh Yea! That’s what we were doing all of this for.”
Most people decided to save JD because of Marcus. The poor guy had lost just about everything at that point and it would’ve been too cruel to allow his lame son to die too. Neither Del or JD were good enough characters to really root for so the gamer community had to look at the characters around them and decide whose death would affect the universe at large greater then the other and make a choice base on that incentive.
10:50 you should have said ‘spinning its gears’ lol
Man I think you superestimate the "you have to dislike JD" thing.
Ya i got that from early on couldn't even get through act 2 after that complete 180 from jd just after that stupid settlement 2 crap. Like bruh what was he supposed to do?
8:00 exactly my thought
I remember an advertisement for Gears of War 3 or more so a slogan in a series of ads that said "Brothers to the end"... yeh so much for that shit here. Dom and Marcus BOTH did fucked up things, by Gears 1 they were both hardened veterans of the Pendulum Wars and had been fighting the locust since E day for 13 years, although technically Marcus was in prison for a long while. The point is along the s=way they both did fucked up shit, some of it out of anger or in the throws of a mania for blood, other times because they were soft hearted and couldn't do what was necessary. Neither of them turned their backs on each other, they were always there for one another in all things, good times, bad times, laughing and grieving, it was never a question of having to accept the faults of the other because they just did it, paragons of loyalty and brotherhood... Gears 5 had a story more suited for DND. It continued to shit on the franchise and what was made, for Gods sake they should have just made a different cast and set their story in the Gears franchise in the time of Marcus's imprisonment or something in a more interesting, already known time instead of this shit sandwich
Throughout this whole video mans was speaking facts that’s a like and subscribe keep up the work
R.I.P. the good Gears games
You couldn’t save both of them or choose between Kate because the queen. WAS MAKING KATE CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO GUYS. The queen could have easily killed all of them lol
it really is just summed up in that narrative shift, they wanted a female lead or were forced to for sake of inclusion and it shows in her 180 in her attitude and role and pushing aside any other person to the point they even try to kill them off like a sane person would choose to kill JD and ruin Marcus's entire story from the first trilogy just for her
the RBF of her combine with hair change and attitude to every single person while she disobeys with no consequence tells you what u need to know on once again diversity push, take something old as a trojan horse to agendas and use as a shield to criticism
Gears tragic death at coalitions hands, like Halo, they need to let these brands die than try to keep afloat like silent hill and how that didn't work out for them after team silent
So in Gears of Woke 5, I'm sorry I mean Gears5, Kate "down the patriarchy is main character
Gears of Woke: the Slap in the face sequel
Well about Jack, he was push beside the scene at the Earthquake, nothing less and nothing more
What about that preg chairman? Why didn't she decreed, when she was at 6th month?
Dude it's a video game you're over thinking it
Well the fans wanted to know more about queen myrrah. So it looks like a white male is horrible and all the other chars are people of colour. did they pick up some modern politics? Don't get me wrong but i really enjoyed the campaign but it was indeed... strange to switch... they skip too much in the story. And I also wonder which decision DEL / JD in the campaign is canon. I bet JD and an end to the Fenix Story. I think gears have soften up a lot. even removing the War from the title. I also Killed Del even i loved his character more in Gears 5. I reallly hoped they only kill 1 char even if you choose 1 of the 2... It almost looks like they want to stop the lore and finish So they can focus more on Macrotransactions.
Yeah pretty much demonize white dudes and random people of other races. I really hated choosing between JD or Del it was just fuking dumb. Of course Del is dead they always kill the black guy too lmao so we are in the same boat. White dudes get shafted n black dudes either become side characters following WHAMEN around or we get killed
Gears of war 4 was about kate. You were looking for her mother.
Story that’s spinning its Gears? But you said wheels. It was right there! 😂😂😂
because it's girl power what feminists are shouting for. now marvel studios is practicing that but failed also
Gears of War was all about a storyline of brotherhood through thick and thin during horrific events, and should stay like that. Not this bs ass gender diverse empowerment propaganda the corporates are forcing down our eyes.... Hope The Coalition follows 343 Industries steps and listens to their fanbase who stuck by this franchise we known and loved for what it USED to be, but changed for the worst...
V A L 100 percent agreed that’s why I stuck with the original 3 only. not this gender propaganda bs I’m hoping gears of war 6 turns out better but I doubt it honestly
Honestly if you ask me instead of saying this is gears 5 why not call it gears of war bound by blood and make this a side story about Kati instead then make gears 5 I’m pretty sure it would make more since if the the game was just about Kati instead and then making gears 5 and 6 about jd
The black guy didn't even "WOOOOOOO!!! "
What!?! No WOOO from the cole train?!?
@@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam I think only once or twice
@@ImAlpharius lame
@@Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam ikr ∑(￣□￣;)
Just beat gears 1-4 pure bangers i was so uninterested in 5 after finding out its open world and not about the fenix family 😂
For one, Del volunteered to follow Kate and ended up dying without getting some Nam Nam 3000, for 2, players feel comfortable with killing Del at the end because he had no significance to the story and since they had a Hispanic female riders felt that it was too many minorities in the pot, for 3 jackpot was psyching himself out to save a bunch of people including Kate who called him a bucket of bolts
fr, this game is a freak show.
truly the american experience
I love gears of war. And to be honest, I can understand your points and views. I'm a massive fan of gears of war, so even if the story isn't the greatest, I'll always want a next game.
Gears of war, is a game franchise is the type I never want to die. I want this to keep on going.
Same
I feel the exact same, if if the story isn't great or has direction the gameplay is so good, and the designs of the world are amazing that I would Gears for that simple fact alone, also I love the design of the warden favorite Swarm design by far
I’d rather it have ended with 3, now their basically milking the franchise for all it’s got at this point.
I ended up watching this video because i just cant get through the story of 5. I played all of them in a row and 5 just feels boring and poorly written.
I think the only reason they made Kait the protagonist because she would be the one of the first female leads in video games.
I know this is a year late, however I kind of disagree with what you said about Del as far as his Gears 5 counterpart. Del was basically the glue of the trio, and Del being angry with JD over what happened at Settlement 2 is kind of justified but at the same time this is also due to the game's writing. Right before you complete the Settlement 2 mission when Fahz is still picking on Del, Cole comments on how he heard about the incident and asks if JD, Fahz and Del had anything to do with the event. Del confirms he took no part of it implying he was present for JD giving the order to open fire on the protest. Still weird but yeah
I just played through the JD section in Gears 5 and yeah Del was definitely not the glue of the trio that would imply he was neutral about JD's decision during the settlement 2 incident, understanding JD's hard decision and being a least a little glad his best friend didn't burn to death that day but would still be unhappy with JD's actions. Del didn't do that and basically sided with Fahz and Kait (even the Cole Train 😞) into hating JD throughout the entire story.
I'm just going to say this I respect your opinion but the whole situation with Kate maybe this is good because the queen side and her origin of the story and this is even better because maybe we can see what went down and they going to probably mention stuff that we did not know about the queen through Kate's Adventure now when you sit there and said there was trying to reject JD know they wasn't I mean that was your choice to reject JD I didn't cuz I understand he had to do what he had to do cuz I do government security as well so I understand but also like Marcus told him stop trying to prove yourself just do the job but think before you make a choice and JD wasn't good at that thinking before he made a choice at least he admits his mistakes and try to make up for it but I don't think on Gears 5 they were trying to have people to reject him it was just the fact that his choices cause problems and yet it did it again when Carmine's niece got killed and the situation that went down that was the problem there so I'm not really going to judge about what happened at settlement to because I really didn't read up on it or we didn't see it I hope they make a DLC for it in the future for the next Gears of War and that'll be pretty cool which they should have done it on this one but it is what it is so that's just my opinion about the situation she still kind of young all I'm still kind of young and as time went on she will probably mature more and understand her power or where she has probably and maybe this is what they trying to do to uncover the origin of the queen what really went down like the term say there's two sides to every story and that's how gears is
The story in its whole is flawed. From writting to execution. Characters are just horrible compared to the first 3. I mean name me scenes in 4-5 that rival thai killing himself, dom finding his wife. Dom dying. Everything you say we "could get from kates story in gears 6" we already know from the books or extended lore in game.
Yeah no, Kait is now just Rey Palpatine 2.0.
" Spoiler Alert " ? There's nothing to Spoil Its NOT Even Gears Of War. I don't Have a Fucking Clue What It Is
PHILIP WATSON 5
To be Honest dear viewer, when I first played through Gears 5 I had no idea what I was just played. Everything about these sequels is a dumb as a bag of a Ryan johnson's plot.
Gow is the greatest game ever. Good story line. I stopped playing gow4 after a few missions. The atory should stay about the locust. Its could be a endless good story.
Now waiting for gow5 is installed. Just give it a try anyway
late but when it comes to the kait situation it’s understandable why Jd gets the shit he gets even if he had to do it he ordered others to fire at people, and kait becoming the protagonist makes sense considering the plotline revolves her and her bloodeline.
That’s what we mean the choice of turning this into Kait’s story feels sudden and also feels very black and white given the somber tone of the whole series
Just because Kait is a Rey Palpatine doesn’t mean making the story center around her was a good idea. Just like how the Star Wars sequels would’ve been better if Finn was the protagonist, a former storm trooper turned Jedi, Gears 4 and 5 would be if JD was the main protagonist, a former Gear following V-Day who was forced to do some fucked up shit. Both would require restructuring, such as making so that Finn wasn’t just a janitor in SW’s case, and so that JD and the COG weren’t in the right for shooting back at people throwing Molotov’s at them in Gear’s case, but even just getting rid of Rey Palpatine and Queen Kait entirely is a great start.
kait is the rey (star wars) of gears of war
Though not as bad so far, key words so far.
@@geekmechanic1473 She basically killed any chance for this trilogy to have a chance wdym?
@@gspeedy619 this was like 2 years ago, I don't remember what I was talking about with that comment. But I would agree
JD did nothing wrong kait and del are just crybabies weaklings
Fekn pansies.
It was a riot not a protest that part alone almost got me to stop playing the game.