I wasn't even using Secret village anymore, too many decks play spellcasters, most of the time the out it by just doing one summon, and having at 3 was clogy , I replaced it with magician left and right hand, right negates the resolution of the first spell the opponent activates and left the first trap, most of the time I end up with dragoon(sometimes with Mmagia too) and both hands on the field and is an easy 2 to 3 negation and magicians right hand actually negates super poly, since it doesn't let it resolve, is super funny to see how confused they are when they see it negated the always freeze for a bit lol, I use the hands with magician's restage that search them when it goes to GY like rainbow bridge so it has synergy with magician's souls + foolish burial, magician's restage also is a monster reborn for lvl 3 or less spellcasters, lets you revive MSouls, it gets stuck on the field once used , but with Msouls it serves as a draw, plus it searches a hand once in GY even if it goes directly from deck like with foolishB. If you want to try I recommend both hands + 1 restage(sometimes 2 does the trick it depends) + 1 foolish, the only drawback I see is that both hands with toybox fill all your spells\traps, but it can be adjusted thanks to Msouls . With the hands all you need is any spellcaster for them to work and it doesn't care what the opponent has on the field as long as you have a spellcaster is golden.
It's less Dragoon + Village being over powered but the fact that decks like Tenpai and Tear and Pendulums and others were consistently able to use Village when they aren't spellcaster decks. That was the problem
Surprised you never saw Secret Village. I've been hit by rainbow bridge into village of the spellcasters + along with a strong monster a lot, once twice in a row. Ends me 90% of the time cause I run spell heavy decks with fusions or rituals. Even when I have a way to target it they've usually pulled something to block monster effects.
@@hawkihawkjetstream1657 There's no doubt it's powerful but out of the thousands of degenerate/strong combos in the game they come after this one?!? There's a lot bigger fish to fry. Also, idk why i haven't seen it but I never get villaged. Maybe people don't do it in diamond/master.
Those bans really needed to happen. Horus was annoying with secret village. I’m a branded main so it feels good to see Aluber and opening to three. I’m sorry for DM :( hope it gets better support in the future. Maxx C to two is great! Hope to see it gets banned soon in the future.
I agree. Banning Village was uncalled for. Most of the time every deck has atleast 1 spellcaster monster that theyre able to bring out and they usually get passed the village
@@david96x61 yea it's much more likely to out village then a skill drain or something. Definitely shouldn't have been banned compared to other flood gates.
I’m ngl climbing from gold to plat I’ve only seen it maybe 3 times but it’s never worked 💀 unless it was Horus but I’ve managed to beat it the second time around
@ no I understand cause I barely seen it & like you said it’s definitely fair. Honestly I think it’s from tenpai man, there’s no reason they have dragoon as back up but they probably run it as a lock out if you blow through too many cards 💀 that and Horus. But as a DM player they either need to give us an actual deck to use that can compete with top tier decks or just not ban secret altogether and make it more accessible by spellcaster decks only. Truly don’t think they can justify the ban other than saying it’s Horus fr I just know I’ve seen some Tenpai players use dragoon & secret together the same amount. I took it out my deck for awhile so I don’t think it’s cause of us using that with dragoon at all honestly. The extra hit to tenpai kinda makes me feel like that’s kinda what they were gunning for but this is for sure a weird way to do it.
People having more of an issue with max c than ash blossom and other hand traps is annoying me. Also its weird how a card can go from 3 to ZERO. How does that make sense? That tells me that they didnt think once about the card before releasing it, otherwise it provably would have been limited as a test drop and not unlimited
They never double think cards before their release. It had it's time in the limelight with DM now we have to find a new support card, but doubtful there will be one as powerful as secret village.
@kingmahde1 dude if they DONT think about cards before hand, explain my entire red eyes archetype 😤 lol. Every single card has restrictions and or clauses. There aren't cards that are even that OP to be considered with all that nonsense
Oh believe me i know what u mean. I was saying the same thing on stream about the god cards. They have the most ridiculous clauses and Im thinking why?!?! Are they afraid that they'll be too op, which is hilarious compared to the stuff out nowadays.
@kingmahde1 yea dude I pulled out RA yesterday and got 27k on him just to get mirror forced? Like dang they really didn't even make them indestructible by battle or anything
I ended up replacing Goon with silhouette rabbit. It has been insane synergy and azurune works like an ogre against tenpai’s field spell. It also has synergy if you use white forest. I love Goon but with village gone it’s feeling not worth running the three bricks anymore.
I'm sad to see Secret Village go as a "familiar possessed control" lover. But Maxx C getting hit, summon Limit banned and Anti Spell to 1 make this one of the best banlists we've ever received. Wish they would have limited Kaimen and Throne tho.
I never get why it's supposed to hate floodgates, but I'm supposed to be okay with one monster doing twenty things. Just find a weird that we're supposed to be locked into one strategy of spam summoning monsters, and anything that going against it will be banned.
@@Dc0sby this comment is very based! People dont realize that most decks play a floodgate that the community, for some reason, has given a pass to and dont consider "toxic". In a game where the point is to stop your opponent from playing, complaining about floods seems trivial.
Hi, I play also very frequently and at the moment in rated duels. It happened very frequently, that I got randomly secret villaged from Tear decks. Its absurd that I out all his plays and he still can search with his random rainbow bridge mill a secret village and auto win. Or the 2 bodies verte -> dragoon secret village play. It had too go. I am still truly sad for the dark magician players, because in those decks the card is not broken at all. (Also try to out a 3k horus with King's Sarcophagus on the field or untargatable dragoon, Tear plays both very frequently)
I appreciate the understanding because I am mainly speaking from the perspective of playing DM. That's really strange that I haven't seen it. People on my discord are saying pendulum was abusing it, but I havent ran into it once so idk.
@@kingmahde1 If I am dark magician player, I am mad too. It always sucks if your rogue deck gets hit, because other decks abusing your cards. Feeling with you my friend.
@@kingmahde1 Oh boy, so many top decks played Secret Village, but the ones that uses Horus engine are the main perpetrators. Pendulum decks are also playing it quite often considering most of their main decks monsters are spellcasters.
Hey man, I'm playing your DM/Magia deck, but as of this list I made some changes to run 3 secret village. lyk how that goes until the list hits. I'm also running a slightly different version with chicken games and upstarts at 3 for more draw power lol may remove them for super poly, because I don't run DRNM or TTT so going 2nd is a scoop basically haha so definitely thinking of changes for board killers. For Extra deck I made a few changes as well, running formula Synchron/Diabell into Chaos Angel if i have Baronne on field, may add Mudragon and Dragostapelia if i switch to super poly. My original own build of Dragoon turbo I ran 3 secret village, with the invoked engine, it was very spammable with Rainbow Bridge of Salvation, and got quite a bit of scoops with Dragoon/Village and Mechaba alone. My little brother got me back into MD and he's running branded so I'm happy for him and this list. Always happy to see floodgates be gone so there's that to, overall id say good list! Maxx "C" did need a drop due to Mulcharmy's so i think 2 is fair. I wish Lab would get hit as there my usually scoop, Yubel and Tenpai have been easy to deal with all the omni negates :) Thanks for the deck ideas though! As I said I just got back into MD and you're videos are very informative and you explain everything well, looking forward to seeing future content, you're a genius at the game and opened my eyes that there's levels to this ish haha. lmk if u got any constructive criticism, always welcome lol take care n just wanted to lyk you made a fan for life lol
The dragoon/magia list I'm starting to realize is one of the hardest balancing acts I've ever had to do with a deck. What I mean is that there's so many great tech pieces to play but you have to pick and choose wisely. I've played the formula synchron version with diabell, I've played chicken games and I dont think you can go wrong with either. I will say you definitely need to make room for board breakers and if your extra deck is tight maybe dark ruler no more would be a good option. I have some videos on it. That dragoon/village lock was my go-to combo. I got so many wins off of it with souls and rainbow bridge. Now with it gone we take an unfortunate hit, but DM will survive. Branded will always stick around, it truly has the most longevity of any deck. The maxx c hit is nice and lab is one of the worst matchups for DM, so I agree with you on them getting hit. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm very happy you enjoy and benefit from the videos and hopefully we'll find more avenues for DM to explore. The best tip I can give you from what you told me is to make sure you're not playing too many cards that are "overkill" in favor of going 2nd cards. Basically reduce the power (not consistency) of the deck in exchange to fit some going 2nd cards in.
Have you been following recent dm decks? It's usage has gone up a lot in the last 2 months and as people became more aware of how to use it with rainbow bridge, it would be in almost all of them. Regardless, you're right it's a stun card and this is a stun game lol. We gotta do what we gotta do for dm.
F for secret village. Understandable why but it did only make fun rouge decks 2x worse like DM and Witchcrafter. Also, I wish they just smoked Maxx C entirely now that we have a “fair” version of it.
So I’m a dm fanboy, so the secret village never affected me, but I can definitely see it killing me if I ran anything other than a spellcaster. Especially if they have a negate already up, because now I need to use my normal summon to bait ash or whatever other negates they have. And the branded getting buffs is because I think there’s an anime related to it coming out based on card lore, so they want to draw in new players with that, but I haven’t confirmed any of that, that’s just Reddit comments lol Unrelated, but would you be interested in your viewer replays? I think it’d be nice to see what other people have done to deck lists you provide for more niche utility, or modified down to a budget option to replace urs/srs and how it works in play. Like I would love to run your white forest dm deck, but the main deck for white forest is all ur/sr, and I don’t even have hand traps except for the bundle ones.
@@donvang-smith1747 you saying that reminds me of all the times i village locked someone and they turned out to be playing white forst or some spellcaster. Definitely wasnt a huge problem compared to other things. Good thinking with the branded buff, that would make sense. Are you saying show replays? I had a replay day on my stream yesterday and i do them periodically so come on by! Also white forest main deck can be just 2 ur (1 astellar and 1 tales). Ive considered doing those ratios actually so you wont miss much.
I feel kinda sad for any one who wanted to play millennium exodia when it comes to master dual cuz it just lost 2 of its best non engine cards in shifter (which is now to one ) and secret village but on the bright side this might be a sign its come to master dual this or next month
It’s ok. Was hoping Maxx C would be completely banned. Secret Village hit sucks. I like Branded so it’s nice to see some love given to them. Might put together a new Branded deck soon.
I saw secret village so many times……….thats when I was watching your stream LMAO. I’ve been playing MD since Nov 2023. I saw village once and outed it right away. I think I’d rather see Samsara limited than the field spell imo. Yeah yubel is insane but the field spell is a good one for what they wanna do. Samsara lil ugly flower thing needs to be hit.
@boombrady683 exactly brady!! DM was one of the few decks using it consistently and we all know how few DM decks are on ladder...pointless hit imo. Agreed, Samsara and gates need to be at 1.
this cant even is considered a nerf, is a huge buff dont lose cards going after this and dont needing to deal with 1/3 maxx cs, and also for the fusion variant play with despia and gaining the best dpe target is huge, is a really good banlist in general
well... it's a floodgate and having less of them in the game is always good but goddamn, a straight up ban out of the gate? like, what the hell lol. i wonder what was using it to grand it a ban since we know for sure it wasn't DM guess its good they are at least slowly starting to hit Maxx C
Floodgates have a weird place in yugioh imo. Alot of decks play flood gates and people don't realize it (tenpai). It just shocks me that they came after village out of no where and straight to 0. Overall it's a good list, just hate to see a nerf to DM bc that certainly wasnt the intention, just the result.
Branded kings stand up! Best banlist of all time. Sar to 3 is huge for branded. Most people who don’t play branded at a high level don’t realize how strong the lines are with sar particularly if you open lubellion. Specifically with high spirit. But with opening to 3 as well you have more ways to get it to grave. Better lines with Mercurier banish so you don’t brick too. Branded became way more consistent And the best part is Konami did it the right way. Since branded fusion went to 1 the deck was never oppressive. Branded should always be around. It’s just a solid deck that Fair. Has its weakness but well designed. They got rid of the gimmick in it literally. And are now allowing it to just play straight up. But still Limiting the best card. It’s perfect. Their Trump card is a true Trump card. But the rest of their deck can still flow. Branded is fun deck because it’s a game within a game. It’s a game of how do you get your Trump card but also how do you properly use it. And in some games how can you win without your Trump card. If you give Branded too many Trump cards in branded fusion it takes some of the fun away. Because outside of Ash. There aren’t many cards that negate the effect of fusion. Most of the time the activation. Meaning you can use it more than once in a turn
@@DrRobGilles i agree with everything you said. It's not too oppressive but it's powerful enough to consistently be a top tier deck ever since it came out. I do think they buffed it at a strange point considering it's been topping a lot of major tourneys already, but im happy for all the branded kings/queens lol.
@ from what I heard I think there is some albaz animated thing coming out. So if true maybe it’s to promote that. Maybe there is an anniversary thing. Alt art aluber albaz cart. Idk. But it smells like a money grab. Either to sell alt art. Promote the show. Or bring new players in. Maybe a new player deck. Maybe all 3 lol. Which would be funny because branded is now new player friendly what so ever. It’s a very complicated deck. I’m just hoping this all league to me getting a royal mirror Jade during anniversary. Maybe for once you get pick your own royal. That would be dope. Just one. But in regards to branded. I’m not even sure aluber or opening at 3 is even optimal anyways. Sar to 3 imo is way more impactful. I lose more games with normal summon aluber get imp’Ed than anything else. Imo in priority. Sar most important Then opening Then aluber.
It's always a money grab with konami lol. I'd love to be able to pick my own royal pack! I've always wanted a royal rare magicians souls. I was talking about this on stream and a lot of people were saying how important saronir to 3 is. Huge buff for branded!
@ it’s important at 3 for so many reasons that most people don’t understand. Obviously just being a bystial gives you interaction going second which branded doesn’t have much of. One dark or light interaction may screw certain decks depending on where you hit it. But more so that that it allows you to play around ash much better and more often. More maximum value high spirits plays. More sar mills off grass. Meaning more options to dump what is needed. Whether that’s to get to branded fusion or to get an additional card in hand through sword or retribution or to protect yourself with opening. Also more lines with merc to extend plays. Then you can. Get merc back with sword if you send sar to grave. And for the big brained brandies. It allows you to easier get 2 bodies on field if you need to fall back on verte. A lot of cards in branded restrict you into fusions. Including opening. And more specially most of the cards that special summon another monster onto field lock you into fusions. Having more sars gives you more lines to still get to branded fusion or just do it in a way that plays around ash. It’s devastating for people to use 3 hand traps only to see you go into verte and pop mirror on field. Hard to beat that with only 3 cards. One card getting banished. Then you’ll probably get albazed through rim. Then you’ll probably deal with follow up.
You going over these lines, solidifies what I've always said. All jokes aside, branded best deck. It can do so much and withstood so many hits and was still a top tier deck. Tear and Branded are tied for the 2 decks that will never die in master duel.
@kingmahde1 hell yeah, HERO especially, you not fr rn😭😭 I’ve watched you since the HERO content and i know for a fact you can cooook but yeah dragoon + SV = no stove even necessary
@@GreedyJOfficial im not arguing with you about it being "skilled" gameplay dragoon/villaging people, although there is a combo i have with it, but what i am saying is so many decks require no skill at all. It's a toxic and no skill combo but that's yugioh these days lol. For example, the best deck in the game, tenpai can be given to a novice and they can cook to master with it. Also, tenpais boss monsters the ultimate floodgate and i know you see tenpai more than village so all im saying is let dm have this 😆. Im coping.
Blame all the other decks that had no business running Village that somehow pulled it off. Until those ither avenues get locked down, secret village cant be floating around.
@@DiogenesTheCynic. but how often did you see those decks? I never did. There's no doubt you're right and it's toxic but it never happened. Short story: last week a trickstar player managed to banish my entire hand before i got a turn. Very toxic. I scooped and moved on with my life. Id never seen that done and ive never seen it since. Toxic stuff happens sometimes but if it's not consistent then no point in banning it.
@kingmahde1 When Dragoon came out I ran into all sorts of Secret Village combo boards, mostly from Tenpai and Horus Tearlament. When Tenpai got hit the Pendulum deck popped up more. My saving grace was I was using White Forest so I had some gas to try and play around village with my spellcasters. And this was In Platinum and Diamond.
Asking why secret village should be banned is crazy. A searchable floodgate that enables stun and combo strategies to add an additional layer of protection on top of a multi interruption board is totally fair /s
You know how many floodgates are searchable in this game? These are Floodgates for meta relevant decks that can be searched or summoned out of the ex deck. Asking why to come after one of the most balanced floodgates in the game, when there's much worse and more prevalent ones is a legit question.
Anti-spell is autowin if you draw it and it requires no setup, how is it not banned like imperial order. At least secret village requires setup Tenpai and Yubel hits are nothing, Dark Magician unironically getting nerfed the most. Terraforming still being banned is also annoying. We got 6 free spots in the deck after this banlist (including the Maxx C copy) but for what? DM triangle, handtraps, floodgates, board breakers? Will this free space help you in “drawing the out” against the meta decks? Tbh skill drain needs to be at 3 idc
@@Tarextherex exactly! Not only does it take setup, but village can be outed in a number of ways where anti-spell can only be hit by removal. Yubel hits nothing, tenpai players will play another hand trap. As far as dm goes, idk what to do now. Whatever we add will be far less oppressive than dragoon/ village.
So... If you have those cards and get banned... Do you get UR Jewels or something like that if you have them? In Magic Arena, if you have a card that gets banned, you get that many Wild Cards to exchange for other cards... Thank you!
@@kingmahde1 So it is NOT for free, you will have to dismantle them then... Shame... Oh well, this happens to being a newbie in YugiOh and trying to enjoy playing Dark Magician & Dragoon
@Hyunkeru yea you dismantle them which is fine since you dont need them anymore. I feel your pain, it's hard to enjoy many decks in this game except the top few sadly.
I think the only card that really should be banned is D/D/D duo dawn king. your opponent summoning that monster on your turn is not cool at all! village hurts but to be honest i kinda expected it fr. and it wasnt DM that had it banned im pretty sure it was horus.
@@randolphmoody2387 bro i agree with you, but I just never saw anyone play it. Not enough to get banned. Ive had more duels against the ddd flood then secret village
Nooo not Village! Not my Anti-Tenpai tech! Probably some Konami employee plays Tenpai and was sick of getting shut down by Village so they banned it. Jokes aside that's terrible for my deck dealing with Meta stuff especially Tenpai and their backrow removal + Droplet combo. Sad day for Dragooners and Village rip, but I kinda get it tho. Floodgate is floodgate and no one likes those.
@@Presian94 yea people have a weird relationship with floodgates but as far as they go, i always thought village was fair. Dragoon/village was the best combo against tenpai. It will be missed.
Maxx C is a good hit and the tenpai stuff but they should've just neutered Yubel completely, ban all that shxt lol. Can't believe they hit secret village of spellcasters tho, at least put it to 1. Smh.
Maxx C should be banned or at 3 no in between, but I think they're gonna slowly phase it out. Yubel needs a lot more hits, it's way too consistent. I was thinking the same thing with village, like 3 to 0 out of no where.
Yeah the main problem is, that the most decks who abused it, just played it at 1 (by milling rainbow bridge, so it would not matter for those toxic decks)
Because secret village is bad card design, cards like that should be mass banned. I was secret villaged in last game of a tournament playing sky striker, I assure you it’s not fun. Also field spells are oddly searchable, many pendulum brews search it using the new majespecter. That aside, what’s with maxx c to 2, it should just be banned, i genuinely wonder why they are hesitating so much
@@magmapagliaesopravvalutato6838 i agree with you that it's toxic, but it's just not prevalent. What spellcaster deck is topping tourneys consistently? The maxx c hesitancy is weird but they'll probably slowly phase it out.
I’d ban harpie’s feather storm even if floowandereeze is the only deck playing it, those cards just prevent you from actually playing the game. I know how good it feels to ftk people, i play the mayakashi trap in paleozoic, but if they banned it tomorrow I honestly would be happy about it
@@magmapagliaesopravvalutato6838 i agree with you bc in your hypothetical scenario, theyd ban all the b.s. and we'd have more balance...but in reality that's not happening. Now as a dm player, i gotta go against everyone elses floodgates without my own.
The fact that you think of the game as who can establish the best floodgate is sad. The best games I’ve ever played were long interactive games, and i’m positive it’s the same for you: I’m assuming that you play dark magician, so surely you’ll enjoy a game in which you go through different boss monsters and win by banishing piece by piece that meta threat with your continuous spell. I get that it’s unfair to play every game starting from a losing position, but that’s our fate as rogue deck players. We want to make those exceptional plays that make our days instead of just relaying on stupid win button cards. At the end of the day you’re now forced to play more dark magicians to win the game, isn’t that good?
You echo my sentiments exactly. This was unreasonable. I never seen anyone use secret village of the spellcaster and even if they did it's so rare that you could put it at one or two. This was heavy-handed and I don't understand why
Yeah it apparently was being abused in the duelist cup and that's where this decision is coming from. I think it's b.s. but whatever, we shall prevail.
Neither of those two cards should have been banned. I've also not run into secret village but once. I wanted to use it. Also, stop hitting tenpai. It's not OP. 🙄🙄🙄
Village shouldn't have been hit. That threw me off. I was thinking it would be a great, under utilized flood gate. There are floodgates in the game that require no cost and are at minimum semi limited or limited. Not forbidden. It's insanely uncalled for. I really wanted to use it in DM for sure, but also I'm my Gate Guardian deck. Only one of the three are spellcaster, but I can consistently get it on the field. Total crap ban. Also, the first time I actually started farming packs was when tenpai came out. I don't have a 50% or higher win rate. I also don't play hand traps. I try to extend with different cards. I don't see tenpai as viable any longer. I ran tenpai, buster Bladder, and Dragoon. I don't want to play it now. Congrats Koonami.
@@AnthonyIsToeKnee yup, i dont think the ban was warranted. Unfortunately, Konami will ban a card to stop one fringe deck without considering a bunch of other decks that are negatively impacted.
@kingmahde1 it's very necessary going second against it with hands full of spells what you do you have to surrender sky striker or runnick are both coocked by secret village with zero Spellcasters but it's a funny if you play a Spellcasters deck
@@alexandergeorgiev74 to answer your question- you lose and move on to the next game. What do you do when tenpia gets sangen summoming and their flood gate dragon- you lose and move on. Theres so many worse cards and mechanics then village but i definitely understand the hate towards the card. I hate it too when it's used against me, but i havent seen anyone play it for a while.
Banning cards regardless to me has for along time made me want to just stop playing yugioh. Everyone wants an unbeatable deck and when they don't get it, or lose a a few games, whatever, it's ban this card, ban that. Why is Maxx c a thing but can't have just one pot of Greed considering people make consistent Negate decks to out anything or 3 ash blossoms in every deck at least, which is fine to me really but still, win or lose, it's just a game. Thts just me tho, bans are for cry babies nd a waste of any money spent on gems for packs, to get UR for cards, then turn around nd ban it just makes me wanna stop playing it all together really nd it sucks, cuz imma a yugi boomer nd I love the game, but screw bans period.
@@orionthaproducer1189 i think you're right and the players should reevaluate theyre perspective on this game. Every deck is "toxic" to someone and theres a lot of cards that deserve a ban but aren't. Im a yugi boomer too and you sound like me the 1st time i heard of a banlist...i was like, "what do you mean I cant play my cards" 😆
Wow this is so stupid the only way to actually fight the meta with dm and they take it ok then get rid of most of branded, lab , fire king snake eyes ash
Village is the worst shit. Cards like that should all be banned. I don’t think they’re attacking DM, I think they’re readdressing their approach to game design generally. Maybe that’s a little hopeful, but 3 floodgate hits in one banlist will do that to me.
@@angrycorn6651 village is toxic, floodgates are in every deck, on a long list of toxic strats- village is towards the bottom. Much bigger issues for them to go after imo.
@@sammydray5919 i agree, but i would like to remind you that this game is nothing but toxic gameplay lol. And dragoon/village is low on the list of toxicity.
@kingmahde1 Nah it really isn't. If it was just dragoon or village then yeah. But combined both of them in a volatile best of 1 environment is what makes them mega toxic. It might not even be close to a meta strat, but its some maximum tilt coverage. Like no joke I'd rather get stomped by a meta deck than some bs like that 😅
@@sammydray5919 you say it isnt, but im saying considering the prevalence of it occuring, compared to tenpai transcendent locking you from all cards, lab d fissuring you, kash d shiftering you, dragoon/village should be the lowest on konamis list of toxicity to address. They didnt ban it because of dragoon/village because i doubt a dm strat is what caused this lol. I agree with you that it's toxic, but i promise you if it happens just scoop and you wont see it for another 200 games 😆
Man this hurts a lot... Why the fk is Village from 3 direct to 0 😡 From 3 to 1 is better. AND Maxx fkng C should be banned. DM Players getting rly fked. I loved Secret Village thx to u and this shiet happens... I think they dont know rly to handle Yugioh 😂 Put more Handtrapps like Ash & Maxx C in the Game, sou u cant even play. Theze are Cheat Codes in the Game for free wins. No wonder when sou many Good Players skip to Magic The Gathering. They had enough. Same truelly...
@@xMortis_- i hear you 😭 It doesnt make much sense in all honesty. I never saw it being used so 3 to 1 seems unwarranted. I hope it doesnt alienate the player base.
@@Cardlimits you're the lucky winner. I usually take the high road with these stupid comments but im not feeling it. You dont know what you're talking about if you think DM can compete on any competitve level with or without village. Obviously it's worse without. Every deck plays floods but im guessing you didnt think this one through thoroughly.
@Cardlimits there's a reason thats a meme worthy comment, because every deck has it's limit and a majority of the "skill" you're referring to comes from which deck you're playing. DM is a very under supported deck in terms of modern support. No amount of "skill" will change that. Skill plays minimally in this game in comparison to the decks power.
You are delusional if you believe any of that, but I'll tell you what. If you can show me your skill with any deck, I'll concede, bonus points for a dm deck. Id bet a shiny penny you' dont know what "skill" is
This one hurts...Like the video to send your condolences/celebrate maxx c hit.
I wasn't even using Secret village anymore, too many decks play spellcasters, most of the time the out it by just doing one summon, and having at 3 was clogy , I replaced it with magician left and right hand, right negates the resolution of the first spell the opponent activates and left the first trap, most of the time I end up with dragoon(sometimes with Mmagia too) and both hands on the field and is an easy 2 to 3 negation and magicians right hand actually negates super poly, since it doesn't let it resolve, is super funny to see how confused they are when they see it negated the always freeze for a bit lol, I use the hands with magician's restage that search them when it goes to GY like rainbow bridge so it has synergy with magician's souls + foolish burial, magician's restage also is a monster reborn for lvl 3 or less spellcasters, lets you revive MSouls, it gets stuck on the field once used , but with Msouls it serves as a draw, plus it searches a hand once in GY even if it goes directly from deck like with foolishB.
If you want to try I recommend both hands + 1 restage(sometimes 2 does the trick it depends) + 1 foolish, the only drawback I see is that both hands with toybox fill all your spells\traps, but it can be adjusted thanks to Msouls .
With the hands all you need is any spellcaster for them to work and it doesn't care what the opponent has on the field as long as you have a spellcaster is golden.
To be fair, Dark Dragoon + Secret Village was almost impossible to beat.
It really was can't deny that, but I doubt that's why they banned it. I have no idea the reason, but I'd be shocked if it was Dm related.
If it was about dragoon anaconda would be banned too
@@tolkienblack excellent point
It's less Dragoon + Village being over powered but the fact that decks like Tenpai and Tear and Pendulums and others were consistently able to use Village when they aren't spellcaster decks. That was the problem
@@DiogenesTheCynic. sure. I just dont believe it was prevalent enough to garner a ban.
Surprised you never saw Secret Village. I've been hit by rainbow bridge into village of the spellcasters + along with a strong monster a lot, once twice in a row. Ends me 90% of the time cause I run spell heavy decks with fusions or rituals. Even when I have a way to target it they've usually pulled something to block monster effects.
@@hawkihawkjetstream1657 There's no doubt it's powerful but out of the thousands of degenerate/strong combos in the game they come after this one?!? There's a lot bigger fish to fry.
Also, idk why i haven't seen it but I never get villaged. Maybe people don't do it in diamond/master.
o7 for DM, but a card eliminating one third of the card pool from the game shouldn't have even been printed to be honest
I get that, I really do, but there are soooo many worse floodgates to go after.
Those bans really needed to happen. Horus was annoying with secret village.
I’m a branded main so it feels good to see Aluber and opening to three.
I’m sorry for DM :( hope it gets better support in the future.
Maxx C to two is great! Hope to see it gets banned soon in the future.
I agree that overall this is a good banlist, but I never saw village in my duels so it was a shock to see it banned. Branded truly best deck!
I agree. Banning Village was uncalled for. Most of the time every deck has atleast 1 spellcaster monster that theyre able to bring out and they usually get passed the village
@@david96x61 yea it's much more likely to out village then a skill drain or something. Definitely shouldn't have been banned compared to other flood gates.
I’m ngl climbing from gold to plat I’ve only seen it maybe 3 times but it’s never worked 💀 unless it was Horus but I’ve managed to beat it the second time around
@@TheDemonsScream yea i didnt see it at all so thats why I'm surprised.
@ no I understand cause I barely seen it & like you said it’s definitely fair. Honestly I think it’s from tenpai man, there’s no reason they have dragoon as back up but they probably run it as a lock out if you blow through too many cards 💀 that and Horus. But as a DM player they either need to give us an actual deck to use that can compete with top tier decks or just not ban secret altogether and make it more accessible by spellcaster decks only. Truly don’t think they can justify the ban other than saying it’s Horus fr I just know I’ve seen some Tenpai players use dragoon & secret together the same amount. I took it out my deck for awhile so I don’t think it’s cause of us using that with dragoon at all honestly. The extra hit to tenpai kinda makes me feel like that’s kinda what they were gunning for but this is for sure a weird way to do it.
It turns out it was abused in a pend deck that is being used a lot in rated duels and in the dc.
People having more of an issue with max c than ash blossom and other hand traps is annoying me.
Also its weird how a card can go from 3 to ZERO. How does that make sense? That tells me that they didnt think once about the card before releasing it, otherwise it provably would have been limited as a test drop and not unlimited
They never double think cards before their release. It had it's time in the limelight with DM now we have to find a new support card, but doubtful there will be one as powerful as secret village.
@kingmahde1 dude if they DONT think about cards before hand, explain my entire red eyes archetype 😤 lol. Every single card has restrictions and or clauses. There aren't cards that are even that OP to be considered with all that nonsense
Oh believe me i know what u mean. I was saying the same thing on stream about the god cards. They have the most ridiculous clauses and Im thinking why?!?! Are they afraid that they'll be too op, which is hilarious compared to the stuff out nowadays.
@kingmahde1 yea dude I pulled out RA yesterday and got 27k on him just to get mirror forced? Like dang they really didn't even make them indestructible by battle or anything
Exactly! I genuinely dont understand it and I probably never will.
Bruh someone at Konami lost to DM over the weekend and said never again.
@@brandon2378 that checks out. Itd explain why the ban came out of no where
I ended up replacing Goon with silhouette rabbit. It has been insane synergy and azurune works like an ogre against tenpai’s field spell. It also has synergy if you use white forest. I love Goon but with village gone it’s feeling not worth running the three bricks anymore.
@boombrady683 yea i feel that and i wanna try rabbit sometime. If i wasn't playing a dm engine id give up on goon too. Rip village lol
Yep this was hurt to see secret village ban like why, it cant even search by spellcaster card
@@NguyenKimQuangAn-A- it's the most unexpected/random hit I've seen. Unnecessary if you ask me.
Damn man i just got into diamond. And the village helped me a lot man 😂
@@opetts i feel that. Village carried hard.
I'm sad to see Secret Village go as a "familiar possessed control" lover. But Maxx C getting hit, summon Limit banned and Anti Spell to 1 make this one of the best banlists we've ever received. Wish they would have limited Kaimen and Throne tho.
@@Elzette_of_the_White_Forest yes to everything you said lol. Rip my village.
I never get why it's supposed to hate floodgates, but I'm supposed to be okay with one monster doing twenty things.
Just find a weird that we're supposed to be locked into one strategy of spam summoning monsters, and anything that going against it will be banned.
@@Dc0sby this comment is very based!
People dont realize that most decks play a floodgate that the community, for some reason, has given a pass to and dont consider "toxic".
In a game where the point is to stop your opponent from playing, complaining about floods seems trivial.
Village being hit is crazy. But maxx c going to 2 is not enough. Simply needs to be banned.
Yup, very strange list. In terms of maxx c it's a step in the right direction at least.
Hi, I play also very frequently and at the moment in rated duels. It happened very frequently, that I got randomly secret villaged from Tear decks. Its absurd that I out all his plays and he still can search with his random rainbow bridge mill a secret village and auto win. Or the 2 bodies verte -> dragoon secret village play. It had too go. I am still truly sad for the dark magician players, because in those decks the card is not broken at all. (Also try to out a 3k horus with King's Sarcophagus on the field or untargatable dragoon, Tear plays both very frequently)
I appreciate the understanding because I am mainly speaking from the perspective of playing DM. That's really strange that I haven't seen it. People on my discord are saying pendulum was abusing it, but I havent ran into it once so idk.
@@kingmahde1 If I am dark magician player, I am mad too. It always sucks if your rogue deck gets hit, because other decks abusing your cards. Feeling with you my friend.
@@kingmahde1 Oh boy, so many top decks played Secret Village, but the ones that uses Horus engine are the main perpetrators. Pendulum decks are also playing it quite often considering most of their main decks monsters are spellcasters.
@@bonadoni762 i agree but those decks have very low play rates. Village was not a prevalent problem
@kingmahde1 My experience tells otherwise 🥲
Hey man, I'm playing your DM/Magia deck, but as of this list I made some changes to run 3 secret village. lyk how that goes until the list hits. I'm also running a slightly different version with chicken games and upstarts at 3 for more draw power lol may remove them for super poly, because I don't run DRNM or TTT so going 2nd is a scoop basically haha so definitely thinking of changes for board killers. For Extra deck I made a few changes as well, running formula Synchron/Diabell into Chaos Angel if i have Baronne on field, may add Mudragon and Dragostapelia if i switch to super poly.
My original own build of Dragoon turbo I ran 3 secret village, with the invoked engine, it was very spammable with Rainbow Bridge of Salvation, and got quite a bit of scoops with Dragoon/Village and Mechaba alone.
My little brother got me back into MD and he's running branded so I'm happy for him and this list. Always happy to see floodgates be gone so there's that to, overall id say good list! Maxx "C" did need a drop due to Mulcharmy's so i think 2 is fair. I wish Lab would get hit as there my usually scoop, Yubel and Tenpai have been easy to deal with all the omni negates :)
Thanks for the deck ideas though! As I said I just got back into MD and you're videos are very informative and you explain everything well, looking forward to seeing future content, you're a genius at the game and opened my eyes that there's levels to this ish haha. lmk if u got any constructive criticism, always welcome lol take care n just wanted to lyk you made a fan for life lol
The dragoon/magia list I'm starting to realize is one of the hardest balancing acts I've ever had to do with a deck. What I mean is that there's so many great tech pieces to play but you have to pick and choose wisely. I've played the formula synchron version with diabell, I've played chicken games and I dont think you can go wrong with either. I will say you definitely need to make room for board breakers and if your extra deck is tight maybe dark ruler no more would be a good option. I have some videos on it.
That dragoon/village lock was my go-to combo. I got so many wins off of it with souls and rainbow bridge. Now with it gone we take an unfortunate hit, but DM will survive.
Branded will always stick around, it truly has the most longevity of any deck. The maxx c hit is nice and lab is one of the worst matchups for DM, so I agree with you on them getting hit.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm very happy you enjoy and benefit from the videos and hopefully we'll find more avenues for DM to explore. The best tip I can give you from what you told me is to make sure you're not playing too many cards that are "overkill" in favor of going 2nd cards. Basically reduce the power (not consistency) of the deck in exchange to fit some going 2nd cards in.
My poor Invoked Dragoon deck, lol
@@HulkVahkiin "every spellcaster enjoyer shall cry about this banlist" - Konami
@@kingmahde1nah fr 😂
😂
Damn they might as well just ban Dark Magician at this point
Lol 🤣😅
@@kaizerdxd at this point i wouldn't be shocked 😆
brother it a corny stun card that very very few dark magician deck even used.
Have you been following recent dm decks? It's usage has gone up a lot in the last 2 months and as people became more aware of how to use it with rainbow bridge, it would be in almost all of them.
Regardless, you're right it's a stun card and this is a stun game lol. We gotta do what we gotta do for dm.
F for secret village. Understandable why but it did only make fun rouge decks 2x worse like DM and Witchcrafter. Also, I wish they just smoked Maxx C entirely now that we have a “fair” version of it.
@@BasedEugene i agree maxx c should be gone. It will be soon i think.
So I’m a dm fanboy, so the secret village never affected me, but I can definitely see it killing me if I ran anything other than a spellcaster. Especially if they have a negate already up, because now I need to use my normal summon to bait ash or whatever other negates they have. And the branded getting buffs is because I think there’s an anime related to it coming out based on card lore, so they want to draw in new players with that, but I haven’t confirmed any of that, that’s just Reddit comments lol
Unrelated, but would you be interested in your viewer replays? I think it’d be nice to see what other people have done to deck lists you provide for more niche utility, or modified down to a budget option to replace urs/srs and how it works in play. Like I would love to run your white forest dm deck, but the main deck for white forest is all ur/sr, and I don’t even have hand traps except for the bundle ones.
@@donvang-smith1747 you saying that reminds me of all the times i village locked someone and they turned out to be playing white forst or some spellcaster. Definitely wasnt a huge problem compared to other things. Good thinking with the branded buff, that would make sense.
Are you saying show replays? I had a replay day on my stream yesterday and i do them periodically so come on by! Also white forest main deck can be just 2 ur (1 astellar and 1 tales). Ive considered doing those ratios actually so you wont miss much.
@@kingmahde1 I deleted twitch a while ago but I’ll reinstall and stop by when I get a chance, sounds fun.
The app on your phone you deleted? You can always just go to the website on a web browser. Come on down. We have a good time!
secret village is a floodgate
@@Orangemushroom554 that it is. Everyone plays them.
I feel kinda sad for any one who wanted to play millennium exodia when it comes to master dual cuz it just lost 2 of its best non engine cards in shifter (which is now to one ) and secret village but on the bright side this might be a sign its come to master dual this or next month
@@amadoubass3406 thats a good point. I feel bad for all spellcaster players.
@@kingmahde1 yeah that sucks, but on a brightish I was right exodia did come to master dual hence why the banned village and limited shifter lol
@@amadoubass3406 thats crazy that they banned village for an exodia deck, good call
Idk why konami don't nerf annoying decks like Labrynth/Centur-Ion while they decided to ban summon limit and village... no sense
@@alessiograsso6838 totally agreed. Theres much worse decks and cards to go after.
think positive. We can now remove 5 cards for consistency
That did cross my mind, but I think it may make the deck worse. We shall see..
It’s ok. Was hoping Maxx C would be completely banned. Secret Village hit sucks. I like Branded so it’s nice to see some love given to them. Might put together a new Branded deck soon.
@@brianpeavy1403 maxx c will probably keep getting hit until its at 0. Branded keeps getting love. Them and tear are 2 decks that will never die.
I saw secret village so many times……….thats when I was watching your stream LMAO. I’ve been playing MD since Nov 2023. I saw village once and outed it right away. I think I’d rather see Samsara limited than the field spell imo. Yeah yubel is insane but the field spell is a good one for what they wanna do. Samsara lil ugly flower thing needs to be hit.
@boombrady683 exactly brady!! DM was one of the few decks using it consistently and we all know how few DM decks are on ladder...pointless hit imo.
Agreed, Samsara and gates need to be at 1.
@ gotta go back to thundra though there’s a potential 1 1/2 card starter coming to the TCG I just hope they bring it to MD
For td's? What is it?!
Ngl, branded didn't need the buff but I'm guessing the alt arts are releasing next month.
@@Kaos9696 yea they definitely didnt. Already a top tier deck. Alt arts would be cool.
this cant even is considered a nerf, is a huge buff dont lose cards going after this and dont needing to deal with 1/3 maxx cs, and also for the fusion variant play with despia and gaining the best dpe target is huge, is a really good banlist in general
@@renanhernandes9458 yes in general, it's a great list. So many good things, just as a dm player i dont like the village ban, but im bias.
It's been a while since i saw a good list
@@Randomperson-pv6lz besides village, this is a good list. I just wish the village hit made more sense.
well... it's a floodgate and having less of them in the game is always good but goddamn, a straight up ban out of the gate? like, what the hell lol. i wonder what was using it to grand it a ban since we know for sure it wasn't DM
guess its good they are at least slowly starting to hit Maxx C
Floodgates have a weird place in yugioh imo. Alot of decks play flood gates and people don't realize it (tenpai). It just shocks me that they came after village out of no where and straight to 0.
Overall it's a good list, just hate to see a nerf to DM bc that certainly wasnt the intention, just the result.
a dark age for us dm users
@@raffy9461 These are truly sad times for DM
Branded kings stand up! Best banlist of all time.
Sar to 3 is huge for branded. Most people who don’t play branded at a high level don’t realize how strong the lines are with sar particularly if you open lubellion. Specifically with high spirit. But with opening to 3 as well you have more ways to get it to grave.
Better lines with Mercurier banish so you don’t brick too.
Branded became way more consistent
And the best part is Konami did it the right way. Since branded fusion went to 1 the deck was never oppressive.
Branded should always be around. It’s just a solid deck that Fair. Has its weakness but well designed.
They got rid of the gimmick in it literally. And are now allowing it to just play straight up. But still Limiting the best card. It’s perfect. Their Trump card is a true Trump card. But the rest of their deck can still flow.
Branded is fun deck because it’s a game within a game. It’s a game of how do you get your Trump card but also how do you properly use it. And in some games how can you win without your Trump card.
If you give Branded too many Trump cards in branded fusion it takes some of the fun away.
Because outside of Ash. There aren’t many cards that negate the effect of fusion. Most of the time the activation. Meaning you can use it more than once in a turn
@@DrRobGilles i agree with everything you said. It's not too oppressive but it's powerful enough to consistently be a top tier deck ever since it came out. I do think they buffed it at a strange point considering it's been topping a lot of major tourneys already, but im happy for all the branded kings/queens lol.
@ from what I heard I think there is some albaz animated thing coming out. So if true maybe it’s to promote that. Maybe there is an anniversary thing. Alt art aluber albaz cart. Idk.
But it smells like a money grab. Either to sell alt art. Promote the show. Or bring new players in. Maybe a new player deck. Maybe all 3
lol.
Which would be funny because branded is now new player friendly what so ever. It’s a very complicated deck.
I’m just hoping this all league to me getting a royal mirror Jade during anniversary.
Maybe for once you get pick your own royal. That would be dope. Just one.
But in regards to branded. I’m not even sure aluber or opening at 3 is even optimal anyways. Sar to 3 imo is way more impactful.
I lose more games with normal summon aluber get imp’Ed than anything else.
Imo in priority.
Sar most important
Then opening
Then aluber.
It's always a money grab with konami lol. I'd love to be able to pick my own royal pack! I've always wanted a royal rare magicians souls.
I was talking about this on stream and a lot of people were saying how important saronir to 3 is. Huge buff for branded!
@ it’s important at 3 for so many reasons that most people don’t understand.
Obviously just being a bystial gives you interaction going second which branded doesn’t have much of. One dark or light interaction may screw certain decks depending on where you hit it.
But more so that that it allows you to play around ash much better and more often.
More maximum value high spirits plays. More sar mills off grass. Meaning more options to dump what is needed. Whether that’s to get to branded fusion or to get an additional card in hand through sword or retribution or to protect yourself with opening.
Also more lines with merc to extend plays. Then you can. Get merc back with sword if you send sar to grave.
And for the big brained brandies. It allows you to easier get 2 bodies on field if you need to fall back on verte. A lot of cards in branded restrict you into fusions. Including opening. And more specially most of the cards that special summon another monster onto field lock you into fusions. Having more sars gives you more lines to still get to branded fusion or just do it in a way that plays around ash.
It’s devastating for people to use 3 hand traps only to see you go into verte and pop mirror on field. Hard to beat that with only 3 cards. One card getting banished. Then you’ll probably get albazed through rim. Then you’ll probably deal with follow up.
You going over these lines, solidifies what I've always said. All jokes aside, branded best deck. It can do so much and withstood so many hits and was still a top tier deck. Tear and Branded are tied for the 2 decks that will never die in master duel.
Takes no skill to go dragoon secret village , AT ALL. ZERO.
@@GreedyJOfficial 😆 you think any of these other decks take skill??
@kingmahde1 hell yeah, HERO especially, you not fr rn😭😭
I’ve watched you since the HERO content and i know for a fact you can cooook but yeah dragoon + SV = no stove even necessary
@@GreedyJOfficial im not arguing with you about it being "skilled" gameplay dragoon/villaging people, although there is a combo i have with it, but what i am saying is so many decks require no skill at all. It's a toxic and no skill combo but that's yugioh these days lol.
For example, the best deck in the game, tenpai can be given to a novice and they can cook to master with it. Also, tenpais boss monsters the ultimate floodgate and i know you see tenpai more than village so all im saying is let dm have this 😆. Im coping.
Blame all the other decks that had no business running Village that somehow pulled it off. Until those ither avenues get locked down, secret village cant be floating around.
@@DiogenesTheCynic. but how often did you see those decks? I never did. There's no doubt you're right and it's toxic but it never happened.
Short story: last week a trickstar player managed to banish my entire hand before i got a turn. Very toxic. I scooped and moved on with my life. Id never seen that done and ive never seen it since. Toxic stuff happens sometimes but if it's not consistent then no point in banning it.
@kingmahde1 When Dragoon came out I ran into all sorts of Secret Village combo boards, mostly from Tenpai and Horus Tearlament. When Tenpai got hit the Pendulum deck popped up more. My saving grace was I was using White Forest so I had some gas to try and play around village with my spellcasters. And this was In Platinum and Diamond.
@@DiogenesTheCynic. i believe you, but I never saw it once. I dont get how that can be considering i play so much.
The list doesn't really matter to me I don't use any of the cards anyway except for village and I played it at 1 I don't know what to play now
@@gamerxandy1701 yea I'll have to think of something or remove it.
Asking why secret village should be banned is crazy. A searchable floodgate that enables stun and combo strategies to add an additional layer of protection on top of a multi interruption board is totally fair /s
You know how many floodgates are searchable in this game? These are Floodgates for meta relevant decks that can be searched or summoned out of the ex deck.
Asking why to come after one of the most balanced floodgates in the game, when there's much worse and more prevalent ones is a legit question.
thanks habibi
@@KixMusaid thank you my guy
I'm hurt 😭💔
My one card combo 😭💔💔
It was a spicy looking combo too! This one stings habibi.
Anti-spell is autowin if you draw it and it requires no setup, how is it not banned like imperial order. At least secret village requires setup
Tenpai and Yubel hits are nothing, Dark Magician unironically getting nerfed the most. Terraforming still being banned is also annoying. We got 6 free spots in the deck after this banlist (including the Maxx C copy) but for what? DM triangle, handtraps, floodgates, board breakers? Will this free space help you in “drawing the out” against the meta decks? Tbh skill drain needs to be at 3 idc
@@Tarextherex exactly! Not only does it take setup, but village can be outed in a number of ways where anti-spell can only be hit by removal.
Yubel hits nothing, tenpai players will play another hand trap. As far as dm goes, idk what to do now. Whatever we add will be far less oppressive than dragoon/ village.
Maxx C should be banned, not at 2. And some Yubel carda beed to be at 1
@@TheVictor01ify maxx c should be banned or at 3 but i think they'll slowly phase it out of the game.
@@TheVictor01ify yubel really needs harder hits.
Rip for all DM players😔
Sad day indeed
Noooooo! No more rainbow bridge into the village 😢
@@wally4304 i know!! Very sad day 😞
Pen decks abuse Spell caster floodgates. Also Dragoon pass with Spell caster field spell is toxic aswell.
@@queenbrightwingthe3890 it is, but not commonly played and theres much more toxic strategies for them to ban.
So...
If you have those cards and get banned...
Do you get UR Jewels or something like that if you have them?
In Magic Arena, if you have a card that gets banned, you get that many Wild Cards to exchange for other cards...
Thank you!
@@Hyunkeru yes! After the banlist drops you'll have a few weeks period to breakdown those URs and you'll get the full 30 dust back
@@kingmahde1
So it is NOT for free, you will have to dismantle them then...
Shame...
Oh well, this happens to being a newbie in YugiOh and trying to enjoy playing Dark Magician & Dragoon
@Hyunkeru yea you dismantle them which is fine since you dont need them anymore.
I feel your pain, it's hard to enjoy many decks in this game except the top few sadly.
I think the only card that really should be banned is D/D/D duo dawn king. your opponent summoning that monster on your turn is not cool at all! village hurts but to be honest i kinda expected it fr. and it wasnt DM that had it banned im pretty sure it was horus.
@@randolphmoody2387 bro i agree with you, but I just never saw anyone play it. Not enough to get banned. Ive had more duels against the ddd flood then secret village
@@randolphmoody2387 also i forgot to give you my player code. My bad bro, I'll try to remember when I'm on the game.
@@kingmahde1 no worries hmu when u can
557-751-182 is my player code!
Nooo not Village! Not my Anti-Tenpai tech! Probably some Konami employee plays Tenpai and was sick of getting shut down by Village so they banned it. Jokes aside that's terrible for my deck dealing with Meta stuff especially Tenpai and their backrow removal + Droplet combo. Sad day for Dragooners and Village rip, but I kinda get it tho. Floodgate is floodgate and no one likes those.
@@Presian94 yea people have a weird relationship with floodgates but as far as they go, i always thought village was fair. Dragoon/village was the best combo against tenpai. It will be missed.
Secret village is easy to search ☝️🤓
They should of banned the dinomost pend card habibi lol. Not my village!
@ gotta accept the loss my friend I lost my babies too 😔
@@jaythebaddiecatcher7359 thank, you're right. Us DM players will figure it out! Maybe you can join us lol
@@kingmahde1 hell nah
@jaythebaddiecatcher7359 😆
Secret needed to go. Valenz and horus pile bs was so annoying in ladder
@@Barnacle121 i never saw it. Im gonna look up the stats on usage because i feel like village wasnt played much.
Konami itself needs to be banned they always hitting pretty decent cards,
@@blakdrago7202 Facts! Idk who's helping them with these lists.
@ 😂
They just want us to buy the new bs. Anything that keeps old decks competetive gets banned
@@Bigpimping7 good point. It's such a shame because many people will just quit instead of playing new stuff.
Maxx C is a good hit and the tenpai stuff but they should've just neutered Yubel completely, ban all that shxt lol. Can't believe they hit secret village of spellcasters tho, at least put it to 1. Smh.
Maxx C should be banned or at 3 no in between, but I think they're gonna slowly phase it out. Yubel needs a lot more hits, it's way too consistent.
I was thinking the same thing with village, like 3 to 0 out of no where.
Yeah the main problem is, that the most decks who abused it, just played it at 1 (by milling rainbow bridge, so it would not matter for those toxic decks)
@ I wish they hit bridge or something smh..
Because secret village is bad card design, cards like that should be mass banned. I was secret villaged in last game of a tournament playing sky striker, I assure you it’s not fun.
Also field spells are oddly searchable, many pendulum brews search it using the new majespecter.
That aside, what’s with maxx c to 2, it should just be banned, i genuinely wonder why they are hesitating so much
@@magmapagliaesopravvalutato6838 i agree with you that it's toxic, but it's just not prevalent. What spellcaster deck is topping tourneys consistently?
The maxx c hesitancy is weird but they'll probably slowly phase it out.
I’d ban harpie’s feather storm even if floowandereeze is the only deck playing it, those cards just prevent you from actually playing the game.
I know how good it feels to ftk people, i play the mayakashi trap in paleozoic, but if they banned it tomorrow I honestly would be happy about it
@@magmapagliaesopravvalutato6838 i agree with you bc in your hypothetical scenario, theyd ban all the b.s. and we'd have more balance...but in reality that's not happening. Now as a dm player, i gotta go against everyone elses floodgates without my own.
@@kingmahde1 this my issue we have 0 floodgates and none of our main deck has any good monsters😭💀
The fact that you think of the game as who can establish the best floodgate is sad.
The best games I’ve ever played were long interactive games, and i’m positive it’s the same for you: I’m assuming that you play dark magician, so surely you’ll enjoy a game in which you go through different boss monsters and win by banishing piece by piece that meta threat with your continuous spell.
I get that it’s unfair to play every game starting from a losing position, but that’s our fate as rogue deck players. We want to make those exceptional plays that make our days instead of just relaying on stupid win button cards.
At the end of the day you’re now forced to play more dark magicians to win the game, isn’t that good?
You echo my sentiments exactly. This was unreasonable. I never seen anyone use secret village of the spellcaster and even if they did it's so rare that you could put it at one or two. This was heavy-handed and I don't understand why
Yeah it apparently was being abused in the duelist cup and that's where this decision is coming from. I think it's b.s. but whatever, we shall prevail.
My yubel and tenpai hit again lolololol
@PsnXboxPC theyre coming for those top tier decks. Yubel should still be excellent, but idk how tenpai players still enjoy the game.
So Secret Village to zero but Ash and Imperm still at 3?? Summon limit to zero??
@@maniacslap1623 secret village going from 3 to 0 came out of left field. Make it make sense.
Neither of those two cards should have been banned. I've also not run into secret village but once. I wanted to use it.
Also, stop hitting tenpai. It's not OP. 🙄🙄🙄
Hit Rikka... Damn lol
@@AnthonyIsToeKnee the village hit came out of left field to me. Tenpai at this point is just hand trap turbo.
Village shouldn't have been hit. That threw me off. I was thinking it would be a great, under utilized flood gate. There are floodgates in the game that require no cost and are at minimum semi limited or limited. Not forbidden. It's insanely uncalled for. I really wanted to use it in DM for sure, but also I'm my Gate Guardian deck. Only one of the three are spellcaster, but I can consistently get it on the field. Total crap ban.
Also, the first time I actually started farming packs was when tenpai came out. I don't have a 50% or higher win rate. I also don't play hand traps. I try to extend with different cards. I don't see tenpai as viable any longer. I ran tenpai, buster Bladder, and Dragoon. I don't want to play it now. Congrats Koonami.
@@AnthonyIsToeKnee yup, i dont think the ban was warranted. Unfortunately, Konami will ban a card to stop one fringe deck without considering a bunch of other decks that are negatively impacted.
The scariest floodgate maxx c should be banned but still great to see secret village and summon limit banned
@@alexandergeorgiev74 it will be banned one day i believe. Village getting banned seems unnecessary.
@kingmahde1 it's very necessary going second against it with hands full of spells what you do you have to surrender sky striker or runnick are both coocked by secret village with zero Spellcasters but it's a funny if you play a Spellcasters deck
@@alexandergeorgiev74 to answer your question- you lose and move on to the next game. What do you do when tenpia gets sangen summoming and their flood gate dragon- you lose and move on.
Theres so many worse cards and mechanics then village but i definitely understand the hate towards the card. I hate it too when it's used against me, but i havent seen anyone play it for a while.
Banning cards regardless to me has for along time made me want to just stop playing yugioh. Everyone wants an unbeatable deck and when they don't get it, or lose a a few games, whatever, it's ban this card, ban that. Why is Maxx c a thing but can't have just one pot of Greed considering people make consistent Negate decks to out anything or 3 ash blossoms in every deck at least, which is fine to me really but still, win or lose, it's just a game. Thts just me tho, bans are for cry babies nd a waste of any money spent on gems for packs, to get UR for cards, then turn around nd ban it just makes me wanna stop playing it all together really nd it sucks, cuz imma a yugi boomer nd I love the game, but screw bans period.
@@orionthaproducer1189 i think you're right and the players should reevaluate theyre perspective on this game. Every deck is "toxic" to someone and theres a lot of cards that deserve a ban but aren't.
Im a yugi boomer too and you sound like me the 1st time i heard of a banlist...i was like, "what do you mean I cant play my cards" 😆
Wow this is so stupid the only way to actually fight the meta with dm and they take it ok then get rid of most of branded, lab , fire king snake eyes ash
@@daltonnash6136 EXACTLY! Us dm players are just trying to survive in these mean streats.
@kingmahde1 absolutely 💯
Why DM always getting attack
@@alvarodr809 i dont know bro, but it sucks
well.......FREE DUST LETS GOOOOOOOOO lol funny enough I only run 2 maxx c so i was already living in the future lol
@@JaysonWilliamsphoto you are truly ahead of your time 😆
Time to dust off chicken game
@@MaxxSea or just cut the rainbow package 😔
@kingmahde1 could still be useful to grab salvation to e soul so magicians rod can get circle
Yea in a more dm oriented deck it's a good idea, sadly many dm players have gone away from circle/eternal soul.
@@kingmahde1 ah yea true circle always fails me
@MaxxSea yea it's sadly outdated
Village is the worst shit. Cards like that should all be banned. I don’t think they’re attacking DM, I think they’re readdressing their approach to game design generally. Maybe that’s a little hopeful, but 3 floodgate hits in one banlist will do that to me.
@@angrycorn6651 village is toxic, floodgates are in every deck, on a long list of toxic strats- village is towards the bottom. Much bigger issues for them to go after imo.
Wtf why secret village 😢
Because Secret Village + Dragoon is pure cancer to go against in a best of 1. Also Dracoslayer in DC cup showed just how stupid that card is 😅
@@yanibouda5810 unnecessary ban. Definitely not played enough to be banned.
@@sammydray5919 i agree, but i would like to remind you that this game is nothing but toxic gameplay lol. And dragoon/village is low on the list of toxicity.
@kingmahde1 Nah it really isn't. If it was just dragoon or village then yeah. But combined both of them in a volatile best of 1 environment is what makes them mega toxic. It might not even be close to a meta strat, but its some maximum tilt coverage. Like no joke I'd rather get stomped by a meta deck than some bs like that 😅
@@sammydray5919 you say it isnt, but im saying considering the prevalence of it occuring, compared to tenpai transcendent locking you from all cards, lab d fissuring you, kash d shiftering you, dragoon/village should be the lowest on konamis list of toxicity to address.
They didnt ban it because of dragoon/village because i doubt a dm strat is what caused this lol. I agree with you that it's toxic, but i promise you if it happens just scoop and you wont see it for another 200 games 😆
Man this hurts a lot...
Why the fk is Village from 3 direct to 0 😡
From 3 to 1 is better. AND Maxx fkng C should be banned.
DM Players getting rly fked. I loved Secret Village thx to u and this shiet happens...
I think they dont know rly to handle Yugioh 😂
Put more Handtrapps like Ash & Maxx C in the Game, sou u cant even play.
Theze are Cheat Codes in the Game for free wins. No wonder when sou many Good Players skip to Magic The Gathering.
They had enough. Same truelly...
@@xMortis_- i hear you 😭
It doesnt make much sense in all honesty. I never saw it being used so 3 to 1 seems unwarranted.
I hope it doesnt alienate the player base.
Konaonmi wtf
@@datboiprods 😆 agreed
Hell na wtf 🤬
@@evilcoress9397 😔
thank god i deleted the game
@@lanzodon4173 sad and i dont blame you.
@kingmahde1 Max c got a slap on wrist meanwhile poor secret village got locked up cause dragoon plays it
Not even cuz of goon because other pend decks abuse it smh
Konami sucks
@@Blastrydermega-np2nq sadly true
if you need secret villiage to be a good dark magician player than it was never your skill to be a good magician player
@@Cardlimits you're the lucky winner. I usually take the high road with these stupid comments but im not feeling it.
You dont know what you're talking about if you think DM can compete on any competitve level with or without village. Obviously it's worse without. Every deck plays floods but im guessing you didnt think this one through thoroughly.
@@kingmahde1 so you take zero accountability in your own skill as a player. this is a classic moment here but "get good"
@Cardlimits there's a reason thats a meme worthy comment, because every deck has it's limit and a majority of the "skill" you're referring to comes from which deck you're playing. DM is a very under supported deck in terms of modern support.
No amount of "skill" will change that. Skill plays minimally in this game in comparison to the decks power.
@@kingmahde1 no, no amount of "your skill" will change that. Yugioh is a strategy game, it involves your brain. Use it
You are delusional if you believe any of that, but I'll tell you what. If you can show me your skill with any deck, I'll concede, bonus points for a dm deck.
Id bet a shiny penny you' dont know what "skill" is
Face cams are lame af.
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