Something fun to learn about the Brothership Bros. Attacks is that even if they have similar moves (Mario has red shell and Luigi has green) the actual function of the move is different! The Japanese website goes into detail about them and it’s revealed that Mario’s will be heavy single-target damage while Luigi’s is an AOE attack. This has me really excited to see what they do for other bros moves later in the game Edit: A lot of people have been telling me below that’s how the shells were in Dream Team and I do know this is how they work in DT. I just thought the new cool finisher cutscenes the bros get in Brothership would hit one enemy with Mario’s shell, while the shell would explode or something hitting everyone with Luigi’s shell. It kinda slipped my mind it would be talking about the move as a whole and not the finisher haha
This was the case in Dream Team as well (and maybe Paper Jam but I can't recall)! I don't think the game ever drew attention to it though; you had to notice when selecting which enemy to target that you could do so for Mario but not Luigi.
So its like the shells in Dream Team. The green shell from Luigi targeted random and the red shell from Mario let you select a target and it would only move to the next one if the selected on was defeated
The first game even referred to Bowser as a "dark sorcerer"! It even directly states that Bowser was directly responsible for all the toads being turned into blocks!
@@pixellord2370Very true the dude has hax to just conjure up a weapon at his side anytime but nobody really talks about it nor gives him credit for it.
I always forget that the koopa race casually has black magic. Yes this is actually canon. Literally in Super Mario Bros the VERY first appearance of Bowser, the manual states this
With the mention of Thunder Bros, it reminds me just how much I wish Luigi had Lightning Powers more. I just feel like it fits more than just giving him Green Fire when it comes to this stuff
25:59 one thing to add about luigianary Typhoon 🌀 is that I believe you can also catch Mario in it to by accident or intentionally he doesn’t take any damaged but he makes a funny sound effect and keeps on cheering after he gets back up on his feet always for that was funny and sweet that not even getting hit by a massive typhoon of Luigi’s will make Mario angry at his bro
You can I did this all the time I first discovered it by accident but after discovering it every time I used the move I would always pick up Mario first because it was hilarious 😂
Apparently later on it has a really cool card mechanic that brings a bunch of depth to the combat Honestly makes me wanna play it just so I can see why peeps praise the combat of Paper Jam so much
The gameplay is great but everything else is mediocre to awful. If you’re willing to put up with dumb filler to get to the good stuff, I think you’d enjoy it.
this is one of the better m&l videos ive seen in a while. you give love and praise to every entry and their specific attacks and it’s just so nice to see instead of something more one-sided
The funny thing was that cannonballer was I think the first bros attack shown off in the American commercial when they launched the baby’s out of cannons, i miss cursed and weird Nintendo commercials
The original Mario and Luigi commerical where they play that timely melody as they show the bros growing up fighting each other, only to end up being buddies in the end was always a tearjerker. Just something so nostalgic about it.
I love how kirby star allies looked at mighty meteor from mario and luigi bowsers inside story and were like "yea, we can do that" Kirby proceeds tk baseball bat a meteor through multiple planets
Paper Jam’s attacks will be why I will always love the game even though I understand why most people don’t. They are both difficult to do consistently meaning you have to focus a lot but very satisfying to do.
A lot of the hate came from the unnecessary Sticker Star hate, where a group of people decided that anything that wasn't TTYD was the worst thing ever, somehow making the Paper Mario fanbase extremely toxic. It's really a shame cause the games were fine and this one as well, but having been a Sonic fan for years, you get used to the loudest members of the fanbase not actually being fans of the series they're griping about, just trolls looking for targets or something to complain about AVGN style.
@@MarioMastar in some ways I agree however when most people see your series’ main appeal as “interesting locations and characters” and the game doesn’t have that, then most people will be disappointed.
Man I love the Superstar Saga bros attacks because instead of using items, M&L just freaking combo people using the sickest moves, then they can learn advance versions of those attacks and its so cool.. SOO COOL
I REALLY wish the advanced moves returned in any of the games. Shame that was a one off idea cause it really incentivized using the moves for more than just doing damage in various ways. Especially since the advanced versions often had hidden mechanics, like Splash bros allowing Mario to stomp on spiky enemies (letting you damage Queen Bean without removing her crown), and Swing bros giving you a free item.
7:55 personally This is a really fun attack to use Especially in the remaster Cuz look at bowser! He's got a whistle!!! it's like commanding my own lil army of bob-ombs , constantly blowing the whistle to instruct them where to go and finally blowing it hard as if I'm yelling "CHAAAARGE" it's MAD and i absolutely love it
0:27 if I had a nickel for every time someone talked about only leveling up hp in these games I’d have two nickels, which isn’t much but it’s weird that it happened twice
I'm surprised that with your love of Mega Thwonk you forgot about the cute characterisation at the end with Giant Luigi leaning into frame doing double finger guns like a dork.
26:26 This line made me double take Dont everyone hate natural disasters tho? Doesn’t everyone like weather powers in games? Idk im thinking about it more than I should
10:53 Actually thats why superstar saga is my favorite mario & luigi game 11:48 GUILTY SMASH!! 31:20 just look at how pissed mario is when bowser does that airshio attack
One thing I love about the trio racket is that on random occasions, regular Mario will do the finishing hit, and he really puts his all into it with him whipping around like he does in his bomb derby move
Yeah, seeing Mario Luigi and PM have unique finishers was cool, especially PM turning into a paper Fan. They got SO creative with the paperfication animations.
Jump Helmet, Jetboard Bash and Shy Guy Squad are my eternal favorites. They just feel so, sooo powerfull. Hitting the Exellent on these feels like hitting the Enemys with Bombs. (Btw im pretty sure i never saw that Jet Attack from the Pi'illodium so thanks for that)
6:09 For the shell, the quick snap to excellent in the original version of BIS feels so much better than the wind up and the kick in the remake. When I think of a shell move I want the kicks to build power and then boom! The rhythm of the kick, excellent!, and the filling of the badge of the badge meter hits the dopamine receptors just right (I’ve played this game since I was 7, I go through periods of not playing it, but there isn’t a moment were suddenly I’m thinking, what if they just made a sequel. But then how could perfect ever be topped? (Dream team is still fire tho.)
Kind of like this "worst to best" format too. the shotgun to get through it quickly but explains just enough to know why it's placed where it is. I don't disagree with any of these entries. Really shows he actually thought of every entry and didn't just throw them in cause "oh yeah, I forgot these exist" like usual ranking videos do (you can always tell when the video maker never actually played what they're ranking)
Copy Flower just made me feel like a bad ass when I pulled it off perfectly. With how fast it went, and the constant sound effects. Absolutely destroyed
I love how the game balanced the "infinites" by having the babies heavily resemble the adults so it's harder to know which button to press as it gets faster. Especially the chain chomp where you actually fail faster if you hammer the chomp, one of the few special attacks that has an input that punishes you. (technically mixed flower also does if you throw the small fireballs at the giant fire ball, it'll shrink in size).
Something I miss from Superstar Saga's bros. attacks is the connection between exploration and battle. Every new attack you got came from a new ability that would help you in the field and so it really felt like you were getting naturally stronger as you progressed through the world. They also felt like an extension of the brothers' own abilities using primarily their own bodies to perform them. Later in the series, attacks became longer, more minigame-like, and particularly reliant on extra items to perform. The Luiginary attacks really struck a nice balance of both styles and felt like a refreshing return to form.
I can remember my best friend and me trying to recreate bros attacks in real life (if it was possible), like kicking a football to a wall to recreate the green shell attack, or jumping down from various places in the playground to recreate magic window... Anyway, awesome video, my all time favorite bros attack is the trio kite. We wait together for Brothership!✌
13:30 I dont think the bombs are completely original to the bomb derby attack, because if i recall correctly one of the Koopa Kids throw very similar looking bombs in one of the New Super Mario Bros games (im pretty sure its New Super Mario Bros U. with Lemmy being the Koopa Kid that throws them)
imagine seeing two plumbers walking on the street and 5 seconds later one of them turns into a giant and starts sprinting towards you with a comically big hammer ready to hit you into orbit
I think the simplicity of Broggy’s Special Move is part of the charm. It’s kinda like Fireball in D&D- once you’ve earned it, you deserve to turn the brain off and just do big damage, because *something* has to let you.
I love messing with the bros/special attacks in this series and I'm super excited for M&L Brothership. A pretty noticeable fun fact for Paper Jam's Trio attacks, if the enemy's paper self were to shatter into pieces at the end of the attack, that would mean the boss/enemy is out of health. Similar effect to when Magic Window or the like would cancel out if the boss was defeated. A lot of charm and care goes into these moves too. Probably the most well shown charm is in the JP version of OG Superstar Saga as each bros moves have various levels of detail on when you miss input them, even the advanced ones! :D
Superstar Saga is amazing in terms of the special moves. The advance moves were cool due to the fact that Mario came up with new moves on the spot. Very very cool.
8:38 i always used to find this one extremely easy Just memorize which side one of the bros is in and then lock on to that side(using Mario as example) if if Mario's side is facing the enemy, press the Mario button, if its facing the other way, press the Luigi button (like a small process of elimination, if its not mario, its luigi)
15:48 To me, the balloon actually seems very similar to the giant balloons in Wii Sports Resort in Island Flyover, which also have many smaller ones inside
The placements were quite similar to how I feel, besides the jump helmet as I find that one to be my favorite just because I used it the most lol, but yea I agree with most of these, and the new brother ship moves are awesome!
Something really unspoken about Splash Bros is that in their Advanced version, it doesn't only lets you hit a spiked enemy with it, it does bonus damage to them. It is an actually devastating weapon against Cackletta first phase
One of the missing outcomes of Advanced thunder bros was Luigi doing an Lightning Blade from Naruto instead of hitting the enemy, and you actually do more dmg but at the cost of the debuff
It was only a matter of time, ngl as a paper mario STAN, never playing mario & luigi until SUPER late i learned to appreciate those games, same fun plots and dialouge and the attacks are fun.
Superstar saga bros attacks hit different they feel so natural and more fancy as it’s mostly just the bros doing combos And I remember learning them the first time as a kid and it taking a while for me to figure out how they work or what they do whereas the rest of the series the attacks feels very easy to do and learn Getting that excellent and advanced in SS was unbeatable in feeling
I think Mighty Meteor should get a bit of extra credit just because of how incredibly useful it is during the Colosseum, especially in round 7. When your items are pre-determined, every one counts, and the meteors sometimes even give you BETTER items than what you go in with.
So funny thing about bomb derby, i struggled a lot doing the timing when i saw the demo for it at first. Only a good way into the game did i notice that you can throw both the bomb and the swing at the same time and you will always land an excellent. Bomb derby became my favorite dream team bros move. Luoginary will have my heart, but the bomb derby is my favorite overworld bros attack
I like Mega Thwonk because it kinda has a bit of energy from the Superstar Saga Bros. Attacks. Like, take out the Mega Mushroom, and I could see them doing something similar
Tbh balloon burst is a giant boss killer cause it physically uses the body of the targets so wiggler and king bomb get shredded by it (even more so if you invested into stach for luigi)
Imagine if for bob-omb brigade bowser would shoot out like a jet of fire to set off all the bob-ombs at once! i definitely agree there are definitely cooler ways to present it :3
WIll you do a update to this, on the thoughts of the bros attacks from Brothership? [Not the full video but just how you feel about the Brothership ones]
"Only leveled up my HP stat in my playthrough" Oh hey, I did the exact same thing as a kid. I don't even remember why? I think I just always mashed A during the level up bonus and never realized I could use it on other stats.
I love this video. I feel kinda like a fake fan with the Mario and Luigi series. Never played partners in time. Only beat Bowsers inside story. Never ended up beating Superstar Saga or Dream Team. But your video shows your passion and knowledge and I appreciate that.
I've always found Sling Sniper to be one of the better Bros Attacks in the series, honestly. There's an element of precision to it, since if you hit the target right in the centre of the sweetspot, it'll do critical damage and send them flying. Highest consistent damage output of any Bros attack in the game if you've got the skill for it.
Luigi: What I'm-a gonna do now: is I'm gonna learn you how-a to play ButtBall! Mario: *mutters* Oh Mama-Mia... *small snicker* I... It's just so stupid, I love it. Starlow: What the... You know what, I was gonna a smarty-pants, but nah. Mario: *whispers to Starlow* Good call. I've said this joke before but in the BiS remake, "Super Bouncer" has a funny animation on the final hit where Luigi is just standing there as it falls and as it goes for the bounce off Luigi just ground pounds it, kupo. And everytime I think back to my early TH-cam days and I think of the Game Grumps and Dan's iconic line, kupo: "What were gonna do now: Is i'm gonna learn ya how to play ButtBall."
Not sure why bowsers koopa move was ranked alongside the bros shell attacks. Keeping the mario and luigi shells together makes sense but the koopa move is very different imo
Going based off what we've seen in the trailer, I'm tempted to believe that the bouncing move where Mario jumps off of Luigi's feet and that one flipping hammer move are bros moves in a similar vein to Superstar Saga ones. And the Superstar Saga Bros Attacks are in general my favorite because they are usually based on the abilities you get that help you progress through the game. The inclusion of the Shells implies to me there might be 2 versions of Bros Attacks in the games. Ability based like in SSS and Item based like in the rest of the series. That's just my speculation tho.
I think instead that that attack and the one were Luigi smacked Mario into the enemies doing and AOE attack are rather the regular jump and hammer attacks, just amped up in comparison to the other games. The fact that there isn't a close up when they do the last blow unlike the 3D Red Shell makes me belive it.
Ah yes, the *"Sephiroth is NOT surviving this move"* ranking
@@OrangeToadGamer Trio Racquet Ball scares him the most :0
the guy aint even surviving regular jump 😭😭😭😭
When Mario and Luigi pull out the Mega Thwonk, may God have mercy on his soul 🙏
Bro isn't even gonna survive a failed Jump💀
At this point I hope Nintendo embraces the meme and puts a Sephiroth reference in Brothership
Something fun to learn about the Brothership Bros. Attacks is that even if they have similar moves (Mario has red shell and Luigi has green) the actual function of the move is different! The Japanese website goes into detail about them and it’s revealed that Mario’s will be heavy single-target damage while Luigi’s is an AOE attack. This has me really excited to see what they do for other bros moves later in the game
Edit: A lot of people have been telling me below that’s how the shells were in Dream Team and I do know this is how they work in DT. I just thought the new cool finisher cutscenes the bros get in Brothership would hit one enemy with Mario’s shell, while the shell would explode or something hitting everyone with Luigi’s shell. It kinda slipped my mind it would be talking about the move as a whole and not the finisher haha
Maybe Luigi gets the ice flower and Mario gets the fire flower
This was the case in Dream Team as well (and maybe Paper Jam but I can't recall)! I don't think the game ever drew attention to it though; you had to notice when selecting which enemy to target that you could do so for Mario but not Luigi.
So its like the shells in Dream Team.
The green shell from Luigi targeted random and the red shell from Mario let you select a target and it would only move to the next one if the selected on was defeated
Hell yeah!!
@@The_Last_Pacno, Luigi should get the thunder flower as a reference to superstar saga
Bowser should use magic more often. Kamek is Bowser's adoptive father so it makes sense that he is a master of magic
The first game even referred to Bowser as a "dark sorcerer"!
It even directly states that Bowser was directly responsible for all the toads being turned into blocks!
He does in Odyssey and Galaxy during his boss fights.
Additionally, if one considers the paper mario bowsers to have the same abilities as regular bowser, then he'salso poisonous
@@pixellord2370Very true the dude has hax to just conjure up a weapon at his side anytime but nobody really talks about it nor gives him credit for it.
I always forget that the koopa race casually has black magic. Yes this is actually canon. Literally in Super Mario Bros the VERY first appearance of Bowser, the manual states this
13:31 These bombs are likely based off of the bombs Lemmy uses in New Super Mario Bros U.
Which game came out first, New Super Mario Bros U or Mario & Luigi Dream Team?
@@marioortegosanz1614 NSMBU came out in 2012. Dream Team released in 2013.
With the mention of Thunder Bros, it reminds me just how much I wish Luigi had Lightning Powers more. I just feel like it fits more than just giving him Green Fire when it comes to this stuff
Facts
I mean he gets to be the Green Thunder in Super paper Mario, but yea, I wish it were a motif that were used more often
@@avalonplemel8933 "Thunder!"
Luigi's second Bros attack in Brothership summons a giant thunder cloud that deals multiple hits to every enemy.
25:59 one thing to add about luigianary Typhoon 🌀 is that I believe you can also catch Mario in it to by accident or intentionally he doesn’t take any damaged but he makes a funny sound effect and keeps on cheering after he gets back up on his feet always for that was funny and sweet that not even getting hit by a massive typhoon of Luigi’s will make Mario angry at his bro
Any footage of this?
@@MistressofthelostonesI’m not sure can’t think of any of the top of my head
You can I did this all the time I first discovered it by accident but after discovering it every time I used the move I would always pick up Mario first because it was hilarious 😂
@@robotkirby814 same lol 😂
Now I wanna play Paper Jam solely because of how awesome the special attacks are, it's the last one I need to play before Brothership anyways
Apparently later on it has a really cool card mechanic that brings a bunch of depth to the combat
Honestly makes me wanna play it just so I can see why peeps praise the combat of Paper Jam so much
Paper jame is such a cool game, 100% recommend going back to it
The story is crap but the gameplay is the best in the series in my opinion.
The gameplay is great but everything else is mediocre to awful. If you’re willing to put up with dumb filler to get to the good stuff, I think you’d enjoy it.
I played through the entire game, and i really think u should check it out! (my personal favorite attack is cannonball chuck)
this is one of the better m&l videos ive seen in a while. you give love and praise to every entry and their specific attacks and it’s just so nice to see instead of something more one-sided
15:50 The tiny balloons are also a reference to that oNE STUPID CARROT MINIGAME THAT GIVES ME AN ANEURYSM
that minigame was fun but annoying
Nope, they look completely different. Also that Minigame was nice af, You can finish it in a few seconds.
Finally a M&L move tier list based on bias and not on effectiveness
Im in for the long haul and youve earned my sub
a list based solely on bias doesn't sound good on paper
but hearing someone gushing about something they love is always fun to hear
The funny thing was that cannonballer was I think the first bros attack shown off in the American commercial when they launched the baby’s out of cannons, i miss cursed and weird Nintendo commercials
I do too in all honesty. So much creativity
@@tysonvienneau1830 You launch babies out of cannons?
@@doggodon7952 no the commercials, not the baby cannons
The original Mario and Luigi commerical where they play that timely melody as they show the bros growing up fighting each other, only to end up being buddies in the end was always a tearjerker. Just something so nostalgic about it.
I love how kirby star allies looked at mighty meteor from mario and luigi bowsers inside story and were like "yea, we can do that"
Kirby proceeds tk baseball bat a meteor through multiple planets
Paper Jam’s attacks will be why I will always love the game even though I understand why most people don’t. They are both difficult to do consistently meaning you have to focus a lot but very satisfying to do.
My favorite part of that game is easily the combat, but I gave up about halfway through due to how boring everything else is.
A lot of the hate came from the unnecessary Sticker Star hate, where a group of people decided that anything that wasn't TTYD was the worst thing ever, somehow making the Paper Mario fanbase extremely toxic. It's really a shame cause the games were fine and this one as well, but having been a Sonic fan for years, you get used to the loudest members of the fanbase not actually being fans of the series they're griping about, just trolls looking for targets or something to complain about AVGN style.
@@MarioMastar in some ways I agree however when most people see your series’ main appeal as “interesting locations and characters” and the game doesn’t have that, then most people will be disappointed.
Man I love the Superstar Saga bros attacks because instead of using items, M&L just freaking combo people using the sickest moves, then they can learn advance versions of those attacks and its so cool..
SOO COOL
I REALLY wish the advanced moves returned in any of the games. Shame that was a one off idea cause it really incentivized using the moves for more than just doing damage in various ways. Especially since the advanced versions often had hidden mechanics, like Splash bros allowing Mario to stomp on spiky enemies (letting you damage Queen Bean without removing her crown), and Swing bros giving you a free item.
7:55 personally
This is a really fun attack to use
Especially in the remaster
Cuz look at bowser! He's got a whistle!!! it's like commanding my own lil army of bob-ombs , constantly blowing the whistle to instruct them where to go and finally blowing it hard as if I'm yelling "CHAAAARGE" it's MAD and i absolutely love it
I used the Spin pipe to wreck dark star cores glasses, the snack basket for his legs, and the magic window for his antenna
With Trio Shuriken, the giant shuriken can destroy the moon if it hits it. Just thought I'd bring that up.
0:27 if I had a nickel for every time someone talked about only leveling up hp in these games I’d have two nickels, which isn’t much but it’s weird that it happened twice
I'm surprised that with your love of Mega Thwonk you forgot about the cute characterisation at the end with Giant Luigi leaning into frame doing double finger guns like a dork.
Arguably the best part of the whole attack! XD
28:00 I am pretty sure that you can even hit the moon behind the cover! It shreds into paper if I remember correctly, and is super fun to try to do.
8:00 nice detail I haven't spotted until now: Bowser blow in a whistle, he didn't do that in the original BiS
I always loved the slow motion finish on the Dream Team moves, with the Zee Egg move especially being my favorite. Gives me goosebumps
26:26
This line made me double take
Dont everyone hate natural disasters tho?
Doesn’t everyone like weather powers in games?
Idk im thinking about it more than I should
26:46 I like how they’re slip’n’sliding
10:53 Actually thats why superstar saga is my favorite mario & luigi game
11:48 GUILTY SMASH!!
31:20 just look at how pissed mario is when bowser does that airshio attack
0:24 I love how leveling up Health all game is a universal experience
29:02 Mario getting struck by lightning 😂
I love the idea that Snack Basket Luigi is called a Fat Bastard, that was funny piece.
One thing I love about the trio racket is that on random occasions, regular Mario will do the finishing hit, and he really puts his all into it with him whipping around like he does in his bomb derby move
Yeah, seeing Mario Luigi and PM have unique finishers was cool, especially PM turning into a paper Fan. They got SO creative with the paperfication animations.
Jump Helmet, Jetboard Bash and Shy Guy Squad are my eternal favorites. They just feel so, sooo powerfull. Hitting the Exellent on these feels like hitting the Enemys with Bombs.
(Btw im pretty sure i never saw that Jet Attack from the Pi'illodium so thanks for that)
More RPG should imitate the combat of Mario and Luigi, instead of just pressing A-win of number bigger than enemy.
Fun fact about Bye Bye Cannon : The pose Mario or Luigi take for the final hit is their Level Up pose from Bowser's Inside Story
I actually notice that!!!😅💯
"All the Luigis look so happy" was the most wholesome thing i heard today
6:09 For the shell, the quick snap to excellent in the original version of BIS feels so much better than the wind up and the kick in the remake. When I think of a shell move I want the kicks to build power and then boom! The rhythm of the kick, excellent!, and the filling of the badge of the badge meter hits the dopamine receptors just right (I’ve played this game since I was 7, I go through periods of not playing it, but there isn’t a moment were suddenly I’m thinking, what if they just made a sequel. But then how could perfect ever be topped? (Dream team is still fire tho.)
I cant explain it but this commentary is very relaxing and now you've earned a sub lol
Kind of like this "worst to best" format too. the shotgun to get through it quickly but explains just enough to know why it's placed where it is. I don't disagree with any of these entries. Really shows he actually thought of every entry and didn't just throw them in cause "oh yeah, I forgot these exist" like usual ranking videos do (you can always tell when the video maker never actually played what they're ranking)
Copy Flower just made me feel like a bad ass when I pulled it off perfectly. With how fast it went, and the constant sound effects. Absolutely destroyed
I love how the game balanced the "infinites" by having the babies heavily resemble the adults so it's harder to know which button to press as it gets faster. Especially the chain chomp where you actually fail faster if you hammer the chomp, one of the few special attacks that has an input that punishes you. (technically mixed flower also does if you throw the small fireballs at the giant fire ball, it'll shrink in size).
The best part about mega thwonk is that giant Luigi gives you a thumbs up after an excellent attack
The bros moves are cool asf, but GOD, do I LOVE bowsers moves in Bowsers inside story
14:21 technically being mid air that’s just physically impossible
Something I miss from Superstar Saga's bros. attacks is the connection between exploration and battle. Every new attack you got came from a new ability that would help you in the field and so it really felt like you were getting naturally stronger as you progressed through the world. They also felt like an extension of the brothers' own abilities using primarily their own bodies to perform them. Later in the series, attacks became longer, more minigame-like, and particularly reliant on extra items to perform. The Luiginary attacks really struck a nice balance of both styles and felt like a refreshing return to form.
I actually think about brothership EVERYDAY
I can remember my best friend and me trying to recreate bros attacks in real life (if it was possible), like kicking a football to a wall to recreate the green shell attack, or jumping down from various places in the playground to recreate magic window... Anyway, awesome video, my all time favorite bros attack is the trio kite. We wait together for Brothership!✌
13:30 I dont think the bombs are completely original to the bomb derby attack, because if i recall correctly one of the Koopa Kids throw very similar looking bombs in one of the New Super Mario Bros games (im pretty sure its New Super Mario Bros U. with Lemmy being the Koopa Kid that throws them)
0:24 guess chuggaconroy wasn't the only person to do that
The fact that he finally told us the whole story very recently is insane LOL
imagine seeing two plumbers walking on the street and 5 seconds later one of them turns into a giant and starts sprinting towards you with a comically big hammer ready to hit you into orbit
Once I heard that voice I was like
"Isn't this the guy who power scaled TDI characters?"
and found out the answer to my question
I prefer "the freak" who power scaled TDI characters :)
I'd like to point out that small stars weigh 4.39x10^30 pounds, or 4 nonillion pounds, and Mario and Luigi are throwing these no sweat
Fun fact about Bomb Derby: you can toss bombs by pressing B instead of moving the Circle Pad to the right
I think the simplicity of Broggy’s Special Move is part of the charm. It’s kinda like Fireball in D&D- once you’ve earned it, you deserve to turn the brain off and just do big damage, because *something* has to let you.
I love messing with the bros/special attacks in this series and I'm super excited for M&L Brothership. A pretty noticeable fun fact for Paper Jam's Trio attacks, if the enemy's paper self were to shatter into pieces at the end of the attack, that would mean the boss/enemy is out of health. Similar effect to when Magic Window or the like would cancel out if the boss was defeated. A lot of charm and care goes into these moves too. Probably the most well shown charm is in the JP version of OG Superstar Saga as each bros moves have various levels of detail on when you miss input them, even the advanced ones! :D
Superstar Saga is amazing in terms of the special moves. The advance moves were cool due to the fact that Mario came up with new moves on the spot. Very very cool.
8:38 i always used to find this one extremely easy
Just memorize which side one of the bros is in and then lock on to that side(using Mario as example) if if Mario's side is facing the enemy, press the Mario button, if its facing the other way, press the Luigi button (like a small process of elimination, if its not mario, its luigi)
YooWho Cannon is probably my favourite. It's a fun little memory game, but with *cannons*
15:13 what i love the most is seeing the goombas falling on the enemy
24:51 Because of it being similar, this is my favourite bro attack
The Ice Flower was actually meant to return in Dream Team (alongside the Jump Helmet and Woowho canons) but was unfortunately scrapped….
And now it’s back
20:39 HE STOLE THE FIRE HAND AND THUNDER HAND!!
15:48 To me, the balloon actually seems very similar to the giant balloons in Wii Sports Resort in Island Flyover, which also have many smaller ones inside
Great video! I think labeling the moves with numbers would’ve made it more of a ranking but other then that great stuff!
The placements were quite similar to how I feel, besides the jump helmet as I find that one to be my favorite just because I used it the most lol, but yea I agree with most of these, and the new brother ship moves are awesome!
Something really unspoken about Splash Bros is that in their Advanced version, it doesn't only lets you hit a spiked enemy with it, it does bonus damage to them. It is an actually devastating weapon against Cackletta first phase
Queen Bean: NANI?!
One of the missing outcomes of Advanced thunder bros was Luigi doing an Lightning Blade from Naruto instead of hitting the enemy, and you actually do more dmg but at the cost of the debuff
23:36 this attack reminds me of the scene with madara when he added stacking another meteor to the first one
Another hilarious fact about the pocket chomp is you can accidentaly hammer its head, piss it off and make it go faster to bite back the bro's
0:30 ah yes, the Chuggaaconroy mistake.
It was only a matter of time, ngl as a paper mario STAN, never playing mario & luigi until SUPER late i learned to appreciate those games, same fun plots and dialouge and the attacks are fun.
I’m sad the luiginary tornado didnt mention how you’re able to pick up mario during it, it’s purely cosmetic but i love it
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ONLY if you manage to throw all of the fireballs during the slow part PERFECTLY. One slip-up and you lost it.
For the YooWho cannon, you can just note where all the Mario or all the Luigi are and press the button based on that, which makes it easy every time
Superstar saga bros attacks hit different they feel so natural and more fancy as it’s mostly just the bros doing combos
And I remember learning them the first time as a kid and it taking a while for me to figure out how they work or what they do whereas the rest of the series the attacks feels very easy to do and learn
Getting that excellent and advanced in SS was unbeatable in feeling
I think Mighty Meteor should get a bit of extra credit just because of how incredibly useful it is during the Colosseum, especially in round 7. When your items are pre-determined, every one counts, and the meteors sometimes even give you BETTER items than what you go in with.
So funny thing about bomb derby, i struggled a lot doing the timing when i saw the demo for it at first. Only a good way into the game did i notice that you can throw both the bomb and the swing at the same time and you will always land an excellent. Bomb derby became my favorite dream team bros move. Luoginary will have my heart, but the bomb derby is my favorite overworld bros attack
I like Mega Thwonk because it kinda has a bit of energy from the Superstar Saga Bros. Attacks. Like, take out the Mega Mushroom, and I could see them doing something similar
I came to see how high Snack Basket was and was not disappointed. Easily the funniest bros attack and does massive damage.
Tbh balloon burst is a giant boss killer cause it physically uses the body of the targets so wiggler and king bomb get shredded by it (even more so if you invested into stach for luigi)
Luigi deserves the extra love for this video for all star-based creatures and the entirety of Paper Jam.
Imagine if for bob-omb brigade bowser would shoot out like a jet of fire to set off all the bob-ombs at once! i definitely agree there are definitely cooler ways to present it :3
Finally this man states the glory of Super star saga bros attacks and how natural they are
So hyped for brothership, it made me actually want to play all the games including paper jam with this video showing some of the moves lol
WIll you do a update to this, on the thoughts of the bros attacks from Brothership?
[Not the full video but just how you feel about the Brothership ones]
Literally can't wait for Brothership. Superstar saga and Partners in Time are precious childhood memories to me
"Only leveled up my HP stat in my playthrough"
Oh hey, I did the exact same thing as a kid. I don't even remember why? I think I just always mashed A during the level up bonus and never realized I could use it on other stats.
3:52 only you need say is "I'm bad with this bros atack"
9:09 this moment is forever burned into my mind
I love this video. I feel kinda like a fake fan with the Mario and Luigi series. Never played partners in time. Only beat Bowsers inside story. Never ended up beating Superstar Saga or Dream Team. But your video shows your passion and knowledge and I appreciate that.
I've always found Sling Sniper to be one of the better Bros Attacks in the series, honestly. There's an element of precision to it, since if you hit the target right in the centre of the sweetspot, it'll do critical damage and send them flying. Highest consistent damage output of any Bros attack in the game if you've got the skill for it.
I hope I missed it but I didn’t see Chopper Bros. On here. That was the most satisfying for me.
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@@OliverRzaoh god bless
Mega Thwack is always epic
Now that I think about it, paper jam did kinda have an air of finality about it that the rest of the mario and luigi games didn’t
Damn.. The egg was my go to ability. I just loved how it worked and it did good damage
Luigi: What I'm-a gonna do now: is I'm gonna learn you how-a to play ButtBall!
Mario: *mutters* Oh Mama-Mia... *small snicker* I... It's just so stupid, I love it.
Starlow: What the... You know what, I was gonna a smarty-pants, but nah.
Mario: *whispers to Starlow* Good call.
I've said this joke before but in the BiS remake, "Super Bouncer" has a funny animation on the final hit where Luigi is just standing there as it falls and as it goes for the bounce off Luigi just ground pounds it, kupo.
And everytime I think back to my early TH-cam days and I think of the Game Grumps and Dan's iconic line, kupo:
"What were gonna do now: Is i'm gonna learn ya how to play ButtBall."
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Good news, brothership has a tornado and it looks amazinf
Not sure why bowsers koopa move was ranked alongside the bros shell attacks. Keeping the mario and luigi shells together makes sense but the koopa move is very different imo
I also like how mega luigi gives a thumbs up after the attack like he's saying " I ded iiit😊"
20:21 MAGIKOOPA MOB FOR THE WIN!!!!! NEED TO OWN MIDBUS? THERES YOUR ANSWER.
13:33 Lemmy uses the bombs in New Super Mario Bros U
13:30 they look alot like lemmys bombs from new super mario bros u but the top is blue instead of yellow
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Going based off what we've seen in the trailer, I'm tempted to believe that the bouncing move where Mario jumps off of Luigi's feet and that one flipping hammer move are bros moves in a similar vein to Superstar Saga ones. And the Superstar Saga Bros Attacks are in general my favorite because they are usually based on the abilities you get that help you progress through the game. The inclusion of the Shells implies to me there might be 2 versions of Bros Attacks in the games. Ability based like in SSS and Item based like in the rest of the series. That's just my speculation tho.
I think instead that that attack and the one were Luigi smacked Mario into the enemies doing and AOE attack are rather the regular jump and hammer attacks, just amped up in comparison to the other games. The fact that there isn't a close up when they do the last blow unlike the 3D Red Shell makes me belive it.
The shell attack, started as a counter attack for koopas but now the staple of the series.
I think you mean Troopeas, not Koopas