@@pyurologie I just got my 5800x3d I have a 3070 paired up with it In streets I can only get 120 fps on a scav run when I do pmc's Its stable 60-70 fps 90-100 max I need help!!
@@SmurkTheOg-n remember, hes run this raid whit amd fluid motion frames, its nice to get extra fps and a fluid gameplay. you change the nvidia control panel cache?
Keep in mind this Option of frame generation adds latency to the game, there will be noticeable input latency as compared to running the game natively.
I said to myself "phi 160 frames not a big deal" but then I took a look on left side with your PC species and I was shocked that fluid motion frames increased performance by this much.
@@pyurologie I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now. Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
@@pyurologie I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now. Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
barely.. FMF 2 further reduced input lag over FMF 1 and if you start with 80-100 FPS before FMF, it feels great. I got into 3 fights this raid and didn't feel like I was at any disadvantage
@@Gun-rd7jr I have been using FMF2 exclusively in tarkov and unless you are using an insanely high sens and spinning around like a maniac you wont notice any lag really, if anything it feels more responsive than without FMF2 because the frametime is lower. The only time I can see like ghosting or anything is when scrolling through my hideout super fast
hey pyu, i cant get to work the dual channel... i have 2 adata 32gb ddr5 6000mhz, slots 2 and 4, tried xmp1 and expo 1, in cpu-z still says 2x32bits.... my MB is aorus extreme x670e
Huge tip to anyone using AMD Adrenaline and want to unlock fps. Turn V-Sync ON in Tarkov, go into your amd adrenaline gaming settings for tarkov and change the wait for vertical sync to always off. (make sure any fps limits are off in game and you should have unlocked fps)
@@kevoivandic1028The fps most likely doesn't show correctly if you use the in-game fps counter or other third party software. Your actual fps is 100+ if you check it through the amd software. The reason your game may feel unresponsive is due to you using a 60hz monitor or using a 144hz with freesync/vrr off.
even with FMF 1, if I started with 80-100+ FPS, the added input latency was barely noticeable: th-cam.com/video/im03tA0fH6k/w-d-xo.html. FMF 2 further reduced the added input latency and it feels incredibly responsive, very close to native. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and I had zero issues as you can see
Wild im running a 7800x3d and 4080super and dont get these frames. This game is the weirdest. Do you run the same in game settings all your tests? If so do you have a video showing them? I feel like tarkov plays different everytime I open it.
@@nothingtoaddhere11 I know about enabling EXPO, I'll look into undervolting and do my research on that and any other tweaks I can make. Thanks for the info 👊
@@MrEmpirestate714 th-cam.com/video/rP0UEDLKwf8/w-d-xo.html this is how i configure my machines th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html here is how you can undervolt and overclock your ryzen 7000 as well th-cam.com/video/lOSf_aqrLJc/w-d-xo.html this timestamp shows my pyur preset settings, what i typically run and found to be optimal blend of visuals/performance start to finish build video: th-cam.com/video/7SK65pkJISw/w-d-xo.html feel free to hit me up on discord discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
@@MrEmpirestate714 be careful, cpu with x3d with the cache is more difficult to overclock, the cache is very sensitive. Maybe it's better to just undervolt it. And of course, all this should be done only on the latest stable bios, where many errors/potential dangers have been fixed.
I recently discovered your videos and your videos are amazing, i hope that either tarkov will add dlss 3 support or nvidia adds a driver level frame generator. I have an 7800x3D with 64gb 6000mhz ram using a 4090 and i wonder could i use afmf 2 with my 7800x3d while rendering the game with my 4090, if it can it would be a good video, also you can compare lossless scaling's frame generator with afmf 2, i saw a lot of people with nvidia gpu's use that to boost frames.
thank you! I tried out LSFG and had some bad input lag issues, it felt really bad. Some people saying they've had success with it though, I'll revisit it
Do you still think with the new patch that is worth getting this setup? I was thinking based on your mid-budget build some time a go But as for the card I was thinking on getting the 6800xt 16GB with the 5700x3d 8C... What do you think about my build for tarkov? Can it rip streets?
yes absolutely worth the money. 5700X3D is still the best CPU for the money and getting high performance. 7800X3D is better, still a good deal, but costs more. 9800X3D will be new top dawg. I think 5700X3D will remain best bang for the buck for a long time. 6800XT will let you run 1440 high in tarkov and with FMF2, it should be pretty killer.
@ Wow man thanks for the detailed advice. Yeah I figured it’d be a good option based on your videos! And the price range compared with Nvidia is unreal. I’m getting my gpu from amazon… do you think it’s safe? I’m asking this because I’m not that used to ship things from there. In the meanwhile, I got a ryzen 5 1600 6C with a GTX 1660 Super 6GB, is there any thing I can do to gain some more fps? Because I play for the most part at 40 fps and some times less than that. Update: And what about the RX 7600XT 16GB? It's actually cheaper than the 6800XT.
i think 7600XT's extra VRAM is kind of pointless because the bus size is still small. It performs about the same as the RX7600. 6800XT is much more powerful than 7600XT. yes, amazon is safe. just buy from a reputable seller and you should be covered.
barely any difference from native in terms of input latency.. FMF 2 further reduced input lag over FMF 1 and if you start with 80-100 FPS before FMF, it feels great. I got into 3 fights this raid and didn't feel like I was at any disadvantage
hi, FMF 2 is in beta and currently only available through a preview driver: community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fluid-motion-frames-2-technical-preview-now-available/ba-p/697448
i switched from amd to nvidia at the time the 3000 series was released because my old Vega 56 died. And I'm still unhappy with Nvidia to this day. That's why my next graphics card will come from AMD again. But holy shit is afmf 2 awesome.
FMF 2 further reduced the added input lag. Even on FMF 1, it felt great if you started with 80-100 FPS: th-cam.com/video/-O856JNF5gI/w-d-xo.html. Now, it feels even better. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and didn't have any issues.
@@pyurologie thanks for the reply. i dont know much about this fluid motion thing but it had me wondering with how cheap the gre is in comparison i could swap my 3080ti to it and then have my 5800x3d maybe get some decent fps on streets. i currently get lows of 65 and highs of 100 with my current set up in 2k. pretty much done all your recommended optimizations in NVidia control panel, process lasso, and just general tarkov settings i think ive maybe squeezed +5 fps from it.
even with FMF 1, if I started with 80-100+ FPS, the added input latency was barely noticeable: th-cam.com/video/im03tA0fH6k/w-d-xo.html. FMF 2 further reduced the added input latency and it feels incredibly responsive, very close to native. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and I had zero issues as you can see
I have a Ryzen 5 7600 + RX 7800 XT + 32Gb DDR5 and not seeing anywhere near 120 on streets, plus I feel it makes the game LOOK worse, what exactly am I missing.
th-cam.com/video/rP0UEDLKwf8/w-d-xo.html this is how i configure my machines th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html here is how you can undervolt and overclock your ryzen 7000 as well th-cam.com/video/lOSf_aqrLJc/w-d-xo.html this timestamp shows my pyur preset settings, what i typically run and found to be optimal blend of visuals/performance start to finish build video: th-cam.com/video/7SK65pkJISw/w-d-xo.html feel free to hit me up on discord discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
Yeah, i stopped playing SPT, the reason it feels so bad is because youre also hosting the server on your machine. So unless you have a giga PC it feels really rough. This fmf stuff looks jnsane though, and cheap to build
its bc after complaints of the long que times on the PVE edition...they made PVE locally hosted to circumvent the que time/complaints...and just like that instead of having the server on a nikita/client....its being ran off a single cpu/thread. JUST like "practicing" boss fight/spawn locations with irl friends new to the game on PVP....practice mode...with spawn ranges close to high/horde setting NGL. From what ive seen on PVE. You cant really "approximate" some of the effectiveness of various/kits-guns etc bc of really only having 70-80fps max in my case with a 5900x in any other map than streets on PVE. Then they have to "calculate" bears/pmc ai fighting each-other or the scavs not sure if thats been removed yet...but that also caused a bit of commotion when doing pve/streets once they made the pve/locally hosted patch. Dont get me wrong PVE was nice to try to take some boss/trio fights a little more serious than a "practice" raid or experience a lot more tasks/content than a normal player would see in a pvp/season. It running "bad" isnt something my irl friends notice bc they have older/slower etc systems where the PVP iteration of the game is just a bad/ok experience for them. Best you can offer to PVE if you want higher fps is FSR/DLSS even then its just to help with input/latency for PVE.
I find it stutters quite hard on inventory opening, sort of like how the game used to stutter a few years ago. Otherwise it's very impressive and a lot better than FMF1.
What specs would it benefit to? I have enabled it but seems to do nothing. My native is 1440p but I tried to to both at 1080 and native. Tried with and without FSR on. Not a frame of difference for me... 7800x3d and 7900 GRE EDIT: I have read in Adrenaline that won't show on any app like Riva Tuner or other similar but only in the Adrenaline performance tracker it self, but for some reason mine won't show in the graph anything beyond 100fps
@@Spinna1993 FMF 2 is only a preview driver right now. But, even FMF 1 should be good for your setup. FMF 2 further reduced input lag and boosted frames even more though.
Hello pyurologie. Thank you for next great video. I was looking if is possible to use AFMF2 for Nvidia cards and found on techpowerup that it can be used "across a broad spectrum of GPUs, including those from NVIDIA, and Intel". Do you have any experience with the AFMF and NVIDIA cards? Thank you!
there are some specific games that FMF built in, which will work with any GPU. But, not all games have that option built in. The universal FMF2 feature only works on AMD GPUs at the moment
I cant reply you in my comment so i do it here (about lsfg). I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now. Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
This is great but from what i tested lsfg works wayy better on tarkov. super little stuttering and feels like actual 100+ fps. And if ur base fps is just about around 55-60 the input lag is not that bad even
when I tested LSFG, the input lag was terrible. It reduced the native framerate before adding the frames, so the input lag felt really bad. What settings are you running?
@@pyurologie but yeah both have pros and cons. But i only use it on streets so i will take the slightly higher input latency over afmf's very bad stuttering issues on tarkov. (I have experienced these stutters mostly on afmf not as much ob lsfg)
fluid motion adds some kind of delay, everything seems to happen after 1 second after you press button, even thow u get frames generated by ai, i cant play with it, tried with 7900 gre and it was a pain in the ass wich i also returned. still using my 3060ti with 5800x3d.
This is the second gen, it could be better. Even if it did have a bit of input lag, probably better than the stutters and frame drops on streets. I'm going to try it out.
@@marth2535 Yep exactly what I was thinking. Good to hear. How do I get it? is there a beta option to download within adrenalin? or is it full released already?
@@cozza819 I dont know actually, just watching some videos about it because I'm about to get a new build with amd components and I definitely wanna run streets so this might help me get more fps
@@marth2535 streets is just teribile optimized, streamers like lvndmark have 3k euro only the gpu and his fps arent great on streets xD, they say improved fps on all maps after wipe, looking forward to see this happen, and one more funny thing, i was trying 7900 gre paired with 5800x3d and i felt like i had less fps than with my old 3060ti, im not tryng to smash amd graphic cards but i hoped i get an improved fps, at least thats what chatgpt told me xD, but it wasnt the case
Maybe you even respond, can you do me a favor ?? Can you show the fps mode 2 ?? It shows tarkov real latency / desync, if the values are under 100 you wont feel desync and I am trying to help my friend on a budget to get the most of the equipment he have and will have. Greetings from Spain, loving your content !!
smdh now if amd could just make some dynamite PPW gpus for 1440p-4k range use....thatd be SWEET now that FMF2 is off the ground....only issue is you need newer/ever newer gen "tech" to actually maximize this sort of "potential" in an itx build. 6950xt power in something that hits 200w max. Like a 7800xt or something...but rdna 3.5 per ex...is what AMD seems to have planned this "next gen" launch. I guess keep an eye out for a 400-500$ 6950xt 1440p maxed "beast" that will sip power....and be nice for ITX when it has a cooler for a gpu that would be 2 SKU's above its range...too bad amd wont sell that "SKU". I wonder if a beefy cooler/AIB 200w card will even exist with a beefed up vrm/vram cooling implementation to really cut down on thermal/voltage/transient activity which would really make it a killer for gaming and itx builds. If they actually offered a beefed up "card" design 8700/8750xt that could do that with 16gb at 400-500$ range that would be pretty Decent if it could effectively best a 7900GRE and use less power. While being even more 'insane' on the tdp range when undervolted. It could be like comparing a 580x 8gb to a 5500xt 8gb if cost/gap wasnt a factor. Still i see a 6650xt xfx gpu for around 230-240$ and recommend it to friends that want a new/budget build starting point gpu...with a 5700x3d/7800x3d. As a new gpu with warranty etc attached. FSR2 Support on older gen/2020-2021 era gpus is a huge deal to gamers/ppl on a budget. This support is almost the gamechanger amd wants to shift the landscape to 500$ or less/used gpus for a gpu and running a X3D chip in all/gaming rigs into 2028 XD.
I wonder how Nvidia will answer back. This is just too good
i hope there will be a video about nvidia settings
@@TheGiuly009 nvidia control panel settings: th-cam.com/video/CV5n0IEWfc8/w-d-xo.html
@@pyurologie sheeeeeesh bro thanks!!
I have 5700x and 6750xt 32g ram at 3200mhz plus ssd and even on customs I get around 80 or 90, will try this option
@@ghaithhammadi-bx3nw have you tried it? if so how did it go?
I have a 5700X + 6750XT + 32gb ram and im waiting for the next wipe to try it, but goddam it looks awesome
Bro this is a 6600xt which is like 180$ and he gets 150 frames is crazy
insane right? plus, it's on a 5600X3D, very cost effective setup
@@pyurologie I just got my 5800x3d I have a 3070 paired up with it In streets I can only get 120 fps on a scav run when I do pmc's Its stable 60-70 fps 90-100 max I need help!!
@@SmurkTheOg-n remember, hes run this raid whit amd fluid motion frames, its nice to get extra fps and a fluid gameplay. you change the nvidia control panel cache?
@@Emtorell Yes I did
Keep in mind this Option of frame generation adds latency to the game, there will be noticeable input latency as compared to running the game natively.
NVM, found the video I was looking for hahha :) you're the goat
I said to myself "phi 160 frames not a big deal" but then I took a look on left side with your PC species and I was shocked that fluid motion frames increased performance by this much.
Very nice benchmark. I am going to play the wipe with LSFG (NVIDIA GPU) through Lossless Scaling software. Pretty awesome. This is the future.
thanks! I tried LSFG and had some bad input lag issues. Maybe i'll revisit and see if they've been worked out
@@pyurologie I'm using LSFG and I don't feel the input lag
@@pyurologie I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now.
Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
@@pyurologie I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now.
Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
@@op4g4mer It most certainly is there and its bad.
Wow, Did you feel any input lag ?
barely.. FMF 2 further reduced input lag over FMF 1 and if you start with 80-100 FPS before FMF, it feels great. I got into 3 fights this raid and didn't feel like I was at any disadvantage
@@pyurologie Grad to hear that , thank you for your content bro , I will try it
@@Gun-rd7jr I have been using FMF2 exclusively in tarkov and unless you are using an insanely high sens and spinning around like a maniac you wont notice any lag really, if anything it feels more responsive than without FMF2 because the frametime is lower. The only time I can see like ghosting or anything is when scrolling through my hideout super fast
@@madvillain8618 thank you bro , I player normally in tarkov
7900xt goes crazy with fmf. Tarkov has never felt better
yesss lets go
What is fmf?
Woo, so happy to see you back 🎉
Fr 🎉
thank you! I appreciate the support 💚
hey pyu, i cant get to work the dual channel... i have 2 adata 32gb ddr5 6000mhz, slots 2 and 4, tried xmp1 and expo 1, in cpu-z still says 2x32bits.... my MB is aorus extreme x670e
join my discord and i can help you out discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
If it really work that good it's fantastical!
it's awesome!
Would you make a updated 4090 / 7950x3d streets vid! That would be so cool
yes sure i'll add it to my list
Huge tip to anyone using AMD Adrenaline and want to unlock fps. Turn V-Sync ON in Tarkov, go into your amd adrenaline gaming settings for tarkov and change the wait for vertical sync to always off. (make sure any fps limits are off in game and you should have unlocked fps)
how u get these frames :D i have an 5800x3d and a 6750xt on 1440p barely over 60 frames on streets
using FMF2 preview driver here, but even with FMF 1 you can get great FPS with minimal added latency
@@pyurologie still with fmf 1 or 2 cant geht over 60
@@kevoivandic1028The fps most likely doesn't show correctly if you use the in-game fps counter or other third party software. Your actual fps is 100+ if you check it through the amd software. The reason your game may feel unresponsive is due to you using a 60hz monitor or using a 144hz with freesync/vrr off.
@@kevoivandic1028I honestly recommend just downgrading your monitor to 1080p.
How was the delay in comparison to what we had in the 1st gen of fluid motion frames?
even with FMF 1, if I started with 80-100+ FPS, the added input latency was barely noticeable: th-cam.com/video/im03tA0fH6k/w-d-xo.html. FMF 2 further reduced the added input latency and it feels incredibly responsive, very close to native. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and I had zero issues as you can see
@@pyurologie thank you for the quick and detailed response. I might give AMD GPUs a shot.
@@pyurologie do you think it would work the same for lighter maps like customs?
@@molten_n1 yes, even better. i posted an interchange video here th-cam.com/video/LPS88ulia1o/w-d-xo.html
Wild im running a 7800x3d and 4080super and dont get these frames. This game is the weirdest. Do you run the same in game settings all your tests? If so do you have a video showing them?
I feel like tarkov plays different everytime I open it.
@@nothingtoaddhere11 I know about enabling EXPO, I'll look into undervolting and do my research on that and any other tweaks I can make. Thanks for the info 👊
@@MrEmpirestate714 th-cam.com/video/rP0UEDLKwf8/w-d-xo.html this is how i configure my machines
th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html here is how you can undervolt and overclock your ryzen 7000 as well
th-cam.com/video/lOSf_aqrLJc/w-d-xo.html this timestamp shows my pyur preset settings, what i typically run and found to be optimal blend of visuals/performance
start to finish build video: th-cam.com/video/7SK65pkJISw/w-d-xo.html
feel free to hit me up on discord discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
@@pyurologie yo! Thanks for the in depth answer man! Will check it out
@@MrEmpirestate714 be careful, cpu with x3d with the cache is more difficult to overclock, the cache is very sensitive. Maybe it's better to just undervolt it. And of course, all this should be done only on the latest stable bios, where many errors/potential dangers have been fixed.
@@ArtenGo33 thanks for the heads up!
I recently discovered your videos and your videos are amazing, i hope that either tarkov will add dlss 3 support or nvidia adds a driver level frame generator. I have an 7800x3D with 64gb 6000mhz ram using a 4090 and i wonder could i use afmf 2 with my 7800x3d while rendering the game with my 4090, if it can it would be a good video, also you can compare lossless scaling's frame generator with afmf 2, i saw a lot of people with nvidia gpu's use that to boost frames.
thank you! I tried out LSFG and had some bad input lag issues, it felt really bad. Some people saying they've had success with it though, I'll revisit it
Do you still think with the new patch that is worth getting this setup?
I was thinking based on your mid-budget build some time a go
But as for the card I was thinking on getting the 6800xt 16GB with the 5700x3d 8C... What do you think about my build for tarkov? Can it rip streets?
yes absolutely worth the money. 5700X3D is still the best CPU for the money and getting high performance. 7800X3D is better, still a good deal, but costs more. 9800X3D will be new top dawg. I think 5700X3D will remain best bang for the buck for a long time. 6800XT will let you run 1440 high in tarkov and with FMF2, it should be pretty killer.
@ Wow man thanks for the detailed advice.
Yeah I figured it’d be a good option based on your videos!
And the price range compared with Nvidia is unreal. I’m getting my gpu from amazon… do you think it’s safe? I’m asking this because I’m not that used to ship things from there.
In the meanwhile, I got a ryzen 5 1600 6C with a GTX 1660 Super 6GB, is there any thing I can do to gain some more fps? Because I play for the most part at 40 fps and some times less than that.
Update: And what about the RX 7600XT 16GB? It's actually cheaper than the 6800XT.
i think 7600XT's extra VRAM is kind of pointless because the bus size is still small. It performs about the same as the RX7600. 6800XT is much more powerful than 7600XT.
yes, amazon is safe. just buy from a reputable seller and you should be covered.
Looks great how does it feel?
barely any difference from native in terms of input latency.. FMF 2 further reduced input lag over FMF 1 and if you start with 80-100 FPS before FMF, it feels great. I got into 3 fights this raid and didn't feel like I was at any disadvantage
hey quick question, when I go to the radeon software I only see FMF 1 is there any additional step to get fmf 2? running a 7900 gre
hi, FMF 2 is in beta and currently only available through a preview driver: community.amd.com/t5/gaming/amd-fluid-motion-frames-2-technical-preview-now-available/ba-p/697448
@@pyurologie thank you so much, figured it out but I still only get 60 frames on streets sadly, guess i ll need to change my ryzen 5 3600 too 😿
@@cutzudevHoly shit, your gpu is completely bottlenecked by your cpu. You should upgrade your cpu.
@@syankha8329 Untill it doesn’t short circuit i won’t change it haha
@@cutzudev You are missing out on around 50-75 fps with that cpu tho 💀
bro. what settings like shadow or texture you run? thxs
i switched from amd to nvidia at the time the 3000 series was released because my old Vega 56 died. And I'm still unhappy with Nvidia to this day. That's why my next graphics card will come from AMD again. But holy shit is afmf 2 awesome.
Aside from the latency, does it visually feel like you’re getting high Fps? I need to know
i tried lossless scaling on tarkov before and shit feels like ass in terms of input lag how does this feel in comparison?
FMF 2 further reduced the added input lag. Even on FMF 1, it felt great if you started with 80-100 FPS: th-cam.com/video/-O856JNF5gI/w-d-xo.html. Now, it feels even better. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and didn't have any issues.
have you been able to look into the 7900 GRE? very cheap gpu want to know what u think
pretty much the same as a 7800XT and 6800XT
one of the best GPUs to get right now, yeah little more power on paper than 7800XT, but for tarkov about the same
@@pyurologie thanks for the reply. i dont know much about this fluid motion thing but it had me wondering with how cheap the gre is in comparison i could swap my 3080ti to it and then have my 5800x3d maybe get some decent fps on streets. i currently get lows of 65 and highs of 100 with my current set up in 2k. pretty much done all your recommended optimizations in NVidia control panel, process lasso, and just general tarkov settings i think ive maybe squeezed +5 fps from it.
did you notice more latency with afmf2?
even with FMF 1, if I started with 80-100+ FPS, the added input latency was barely noticeable: th-cam.com/video/im03tA0fH6k/w-d-xo.html. FMF 2 further reduced the added input latency and it feels incredibly responsive, very close to native. I got into 3 PMC fights in this video and I had zero issues as you can see
I have a Ryzen 5 7600 + RX 7800 XT + 32Gb DDR5 and not seeing anywhere near 120 on streets, plus I feel it makes the game LOOK worse, what exactly am I missing.
th-cam.com/video/rP0UEDLKwf8/w-d-xo.html this is how i configure my machines
th-cam.com/video/-D2gPn95jS8/w-d-xo.html here is how you can undervolt and overclock your ryzen 7000 as well
th-cam.com/video/lOSf_aqrLJc/w-d-xo.html this timestamp shows my pyur preset settings, what i typically run and found to be optimal blend of visuals/performance
start to finish build video: th-cam.com/video/7SK65pkJISw/w-d-xo.html
feel free to hit me up on discord discord.gg/c7SvvDAuMZ
@@pyurologie Huge, thanks bro I'll look through these
I'm playing on a few years old laptop 11700 in it with 3070. It runs the game but I feel like at less than 60 fps most of the time when playing spt.
Yeah, i stopped playing SPT, the reason it feels so bad is because youre also hosting the server on your machine.
So unless you have a giga PC it feels really rough.
This fmf stuff looks jnsane though, and cheap to build
I’m running i9 14gen, 4090, and 64gig DDR5 ram and I float around 50-60 on streets PvE
its bc after complaints of the long que times on the PVE edition...they made PVE locally hosted to circumvent the que time/complaints...and just like that instead of having the server on a nikita/client....its being ran off a single cpu/thread. JUST like "practicing" boss fight/spawn locations with irl friends new to the game on PVP....practice mode...with spawn ranges close to high/horde setting NGL. From what ive seen on PVE. You cant really "approximate" some of the effectiveness of various/kits-guns etc bc of really only having 70-80fps max in my case with a 5900x in any other map than streets on PVE. Then they have to "calculate" bears/pmc ai fighting each-other or the scavs not sure if thats been removed yet...but that also caused a bit of commotion when doing pve/streets once they made the pve/locally hosted patch. Dont get me wrong PVE was nice to try to take some boss/trio fights a little more serious than a "practice" raid or experience a lot more tasks/content than a normal player would see in a pvp/season. It running "bad" isnt something my irl friends notice bc they have older/slower etc systems where the PVP iteration of the game is just a bad/ok experience for them. Best you can offer to PVE if you want higher fps is FSR/DLSS even then its just to help with input/latency for PVE.
Dang, is this a new feature for AMD? Might not have to upgrade my 6750xt now, I have a 7800x3d, will it be enough?
FMF is not new, but FMF 2 is an improved version of the original FMF implementation with even less added input latency and smoother/more frames
how does this make sence, i have a 5700x3d, 6700 xt, 32gb ddr4 @ 3200mhz and i have 50-55 and 60 frames after shutting off Anisotropric filtering ?
He is using afmf2 in the amd radeon control panel. I used it, and it greatly boosted my performance similar to the video.
@@syankha8329 i also tried afmf2 with no fps increase.
I find it stutters quite hard on inventory opening, sort of like how the game used to stutter a few years ago. Otherwise it's very impressive and a lot better than FMF1.
To whom this may concern. Nvida card lose performance when updating, download old drivers for stable fps. P.S. amd on top 😮
I wonder if it will be better than Loseless Scaling, I will have to try (6900xt), loseless works quite well but I feel a little input lag.
What specs would it benefit to? I have enabled it but seems to do nothing. My native is 1440p but I tried to to both at 1080 and native. Tried with and without FSR on. Not a frame of difference for me... 7800x3d and 7900 GRE
EDIT: I have read in Adrenaline that won't show on any app like Riva Tuner or other similar but only in the Adrenaline performance tracker it self, but for some reason mine won't show in the graph anything beyond 100fps
@@nothingtoaddhere11 uhmm not sure, I'm at work now. In case it wasn't how do I get it? My drivers are up to date. 7900 gre is not compatible?
@@Spinna1993 FMF 2 is only a preview driver right now. But, even FMF 1 should be good for your setup. FMF 2 further reduced input lag and boosted frames even more though.
@@pyurologie thanks!
Hello pyurologie. Thank you for next great video. I was looking if is possible to use AFMF2 for Nvidia cards and found on techpowerup that it can be used "across a broad spectrum of GPUs, including those from NVIDIA, and Intel". Do you have any experience with the AFMF and NVIDIA cards? Thank you!
there are some specific games that FMF built in, which will work with any GPU. But, not all games have that option built in. The universal FMF2 feature only works on AMD GPUs at the moment
Holy frames
I cant reply you in my comment so i do it here (about lsfg).
I have a 165hz monitor. I cap the game at 79fps with RTSS. Then vsync on and reflex on in nvcp. In tarkov settings vsync checked and reflex off (its applied in nvcp) so with this config you unlock fps cap in game +60 (main menu included). Then you see 79 constant fps with a good rig in all maps (13900kf 4090 in my case) so you switch on lossless scaling with Ctrl+Alt+s and you see 158 real fps with 79fps latency (around 12.6ms). The latency is calculated for your real fps. The software adds an extra layer on the screen and stream the content at double of your frame rate. One tip for decreasing lossless scaling latency is “allow tearing” in the config of the program, so it doesnt activate vsync in this “stream” which it does of your game. I disable the resolution scaling too because i dont need any more than 2160p. It performs awesome, you deal with some minor artifacts in dark areas but for me is completely worth. And this software is improving overtime. You only need a nice CPU/GPU which could run the game at /2 your hz monitor rate. If you have any question, ask me. You gave me a good info in the past with your benchmarks so i can resolve any question for you now.
Thank you for your content one more time, keep doing it mate!
This is great but from what i tested lsfg works wayy better on tarkov. super little stuttering and feels like actual 100+ fps. And if ur base fps is just about around 55-60 the input lag is not that bad even
when I tested LSFG, the input lag was terrible. It reduced the native framerate before adding the frames, so the input lag felt really bad. What settings are you running?
@@pyurologie for me input lag is terrible until i reach around 60+ fps. Also afmf also reduces native fps
@@pyurologie im gonna check settings tmrw if i remember
@@pyurologie but yeah both have pros and cons. But i only use it on streets so i will take the slightly higher input latency over afmf's very bad stuttering issues on tarkov. (I have experienced these stutters mostly on afmf not as much ob lsfg)
fluid motion adds some kind of delay, everything seems to happen after 1 second after you press button, even thow u get frames generated by ai, i cant play with it, tried with 7900 gre and it was a pain in the ass wich i also returned. still using my 3060ti with 5800x3d.
This is the second gen, it could be better. Even if it did have a bit of input lag, probably better than the stutters and frame drops on streets. I'm going to try it out.
apparently they reduced the input lag significantly with fmf 2
@@marth2535 Yep exactly what I was thinking. Good to hear. How do I get it? is there a beta option to download within adrenalin? or is it full released already?
@@cozza819 I dont know actually, just watching some videos about it because I'm about to get a new build with amd components and I definitely wanna run streets so this might help me get more fps
@@marth2535 streets is just teribile optimized, streamers like lvndmark have 3k euro only the gpu and his fps arent great on streets xD, they say improved fps on all maps after wipe, looking forward to see this happen, and one more funny thing, i was trying 7900 gre paired with 5800x3d and i felt like i had less fps than with my old 3060ti, im not tryng to smash amd graphic cards but i hoped i get an improved fps, at least thats what chatgpt told me xD, but it wasnt the case
Maybe you even respond, can you do me a favor ?? Can you show the fps mode 2 ?? It shows tarkov real latency / desync, if the values are under 100 you wont feel desync and I am trying to help my friend on a budget to get the most of the equipment he have and will have. Greetings from Spain, loving your content !!
I’m bout to call NVIDIA and INTEL they burning CPUs while RYZEN BOYS GETTING plus 100 frames
😅
I have a 5800x with a 3080ti and get maybe 120 fps
smdh now if amd could just make some dynamite PPW gpus for 1440p-4k range use....thatd be SWEET now that FMF2 is off the ground....only issue is you need newer/ever newer gen "tech" to actually maximize this sort of "potential" in an itx build. 6950xt power in something that hits 200w max. Like a 7800xt or something...but rdna 3.5 per ex...is what AMD seems to have planned this "next gen" launch. I guess keep an eye out for a 400-500$ 6950xt 1440p maxed "beast" that will sip power....and be nice for ITX when it has a cooler for a gpu that would be 2 SKU's above its range...too bad amd wont sell that "SKU". I wonder if a beefy cooler/AIB 200w card will even exist with a beefed up vrm/vram cooling implementation to really cut down on thermal/voltage/transient activity which would really make it a killer for gaming and itx builds. If they actually offered a beefed up "card" design 8700/8750xt that could do that with 16gb at 400-500$ range that would be pretty Decent if it could effectively best a 7900GRE and use less power. While being even more 'insane' on the tdp range when undervolted. It could be like comparing a 580x 8gb to a 5500xt 8gb if cost/gap wasnt a factor. Still i see a 6650xt xfx gpu for around 230-240$ and recommend it to friends that want a new/budget build starting point gpu...with a 5700x3d/7800x3d. As a new gpu with warranty etc attached. FSR2 Support on older gen/2020-2021 era gpus is a huge deal to gamers/ppl on a budget. This support is almost the gamechanger amd wants to shift the landscape to 500$ or less/used gpus for a gpu and running a X3D chip in all/gaming rigs into 2028 XD.
mine lowers it lol
using FMF 2?
How run it on rtx3070?
Fluid motion frames is not possible on Nvidia gpus
only possible on AMD GPUs as @dutch_meow4845 mentioned