How Goldman Sachs Fumbled Credit Cards, Personal Loans and More | WSJ

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  • When Goldman Sachs entered the credit card space in 2019 with a partnership with Apple, many consumer banks were concerned that a new competitor had emerged. But just four years later, the firm is pulling back. The banking giant’s move from Wall Street to Main Street came at a time when Goldman wanted to diversify its funding sources. It introduced a high-yield savings account with Marcus and rolled out personal loans. But what was the turning point that led them to start to retreat from this space?
    WSJ explains why Goldman Sachs entered consumer finance and what the firm pulling back means for the company as a whole.
    0:00 Goldman Sachs isn’t used to failing
    0:20 Entering the consumer space
    2:22 Acceleration of consumer finance efforts
    3:32 Turning point
    4:55 Goldman’s retreat
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  • @erlinghaaland5716
    @erlinghaaland5716 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    Why not give it a few more years then make a sound judgement. This obsession with short termism is crazy

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Quarter quarter quarter... some businesses take a decade to mature.

    • @lostinbravado
      @lostinbravado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Change is moving too quickly for investors to allow growth. Experts and professionals can see that the end is near, for many reasons. And I think most people are just waiting to see what fails first, and how they can protect themselves. Also, the reasons "the end is near" are global reasons, not specific to the US. And what end? Probably an end to the current state of most global economic systems. Within 10 years.

  • @gprairie1
    @gprairie1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    Bottom line, they took on too much risk too quickly. It’s good marketing to brand that as a strategic fail. It’s up to us as consumers to call out that circulated and deliberate deception.

    • @lostinbravado
      @lostinbravado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      None of this is good marketing. They failed. They admitted they failed publicly. Where's the circulated deliberate deception? Were you expecting them to bleed tears?

    • @mayhemrcworx621
      @mayhemrcworx621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When market was running rampant during last Administration, they saw opportunities to give money to people to invest in the market in bitcoin pipe dream and other pop like gamestop.
      They knew all along that they will get bailout. 😂

    • @lostinbravado
      @lostinbravado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mayhemrcworx621 No senior manager thinks like that, or they'll be immediately removed by more greedy shareholders
      Nothing's a certainty and even if a bail out is possible, a corporation is not forgiving to staff which threaten it's existence.
      We think senior management is about power and money, when in reality it's about a desperate struggle to influence the masses with no clear view of what that will result in. It's a massive gamble where your entire career could be wiped clean by a single mistake.
      Money and power is not potent enough at that level to be worth pursuing. Instead it's about influence, connection, and delusions.
      Turst me, the big payout, regards of how big, is never worth it. These people are already massively rich. The payout means they failed. It means their 5 years of extremely difficult work was a failure. Another yacht isn't going to fix that.
      For people with no wealth and power, it's easy to misunderstand.

  • @ewanmills4927
    @ewanmills4927 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Was kind of ridiculous looking at their market entry from the outside. It would have been way easier for them to acquire an already established company and just do a rebranding job instead of trying to grow it organically. Oh well, their loss with their current management.

    • @erlinghaaland5716
      @erlinghaaland5716 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They did buy greensky . I think they should give it a few more years then decide what's the path forward. This decision to scrap it off is too short sighted I feel

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No one will forget how Goldman Sachs ate Euro just to manipulate the USD there and kept USD hegemony. Goldman Sach is also the owner of the fed.

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MSDGroup-ez6zklol no if Goldman owned the Fed they would slash the rates to 0, they are getting hurt right now.

    • @kirankhatri6469
      @kirankhatri6469 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@erlinghaaland5716🎉🎉

    • @eddiemalvin
      @eddiemalvin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Acquiring a business seems like a great idea until you weigh the costs of integrating the technology platforms, regulatory reporting, operations, etc. into your existing business even though it'll (eventually) bring some cost savings.
      Sometimes its cheaper and cleaner to build.
      You just have to make sure that (a) you're chasing the right product and market and (b) you have competent business and tech leaders to guide you through the process

  • @tigerrx7
    @tigerrx7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Most company failures are caused by leadership’s oversized egos

    • @cascy004
      @cascy004 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Example Trump

    • @C4rb0neum
      @C4rb0neum 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. Like the many companies moving into making movies. Almost never works out

  • @who2u333
    @who2u333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    As long as the executives can fail retain their positions and compensation packages, we can be sure that everything will be OK.

  • @id10t98
    @id10t98 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    It truly is shocking that a firm that's been associated with manipulating markets for stocks, commodities, bonds as well as paid billions for the 2008 mortgage fraud they committed didnt resonate well with the common folk and no rush to get their credit cards occurred from lowly retail people.

    • @tube.brasil
      @tube.brasil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apple card was a super asset. If they couldn't make it with that, they will never make it.

  • @lostinbravado
    @lostinbravado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Seems like another normal day in the reckless world of US finance.

  • @vishnumuralidharan9858
    @vishnumuralidharan9858 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need to bring back Glass-Steagall Act

  • @Hello-pl2qe
    @Hello-pl2qe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Drop in the bucket for them, and who knows what information theyve obtained to apply to the future.

  • @scottgoodman8459
    @scottgoodman8459 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Look, they saw an opportunity, tried it, didn't work and realized that and moved on. That's called life.

    • @quinnhart1557
      @quinnhart1557 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats not banking though. You can't really make these kind of mistakes.

    • @lostinbravado
      @lostinbravado 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@quinnhart1557 So you have to be perfect? And we know perfection is impossible. So...? Maybe people who think we shouldn't make mistakes are making a mistake.

    • @David-wc5zl
      @David-wc5zl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow. The complete lack of any morality here. It's folks like this that cheered on Iraq and deregulation. They own things like homelessness & the failed Republican War on Terror.

  • @marchlopez9934
    @marchlopez9934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Goldman Sachs' foray into consumer lending has been called a financial and strategic failure, with the bank losing billions in the last few years. Although consumer lending only accounts for about 3% of the company's revenue, it raises questions about flawed decision-making when Goldman entered the consumer space. Goldman built its consumer business from scratch by hiring experienced executives from the consumer lending world, the tech sector, and its own bank. However, executives disagreed with decisions the company was making and began leaving, and the consumer effort evolved into a "science experiment." The bank's shareholders also grew frustrated as expenses were incurred to build out different products and staff up. The investment banking business also slowed in 2022, making it matter if a business unit had a lot of expenses and wasn't contributing to earnings. In the fall of 2022, Goldman reorganized, moving a big chunk of consumer lending into a separate unit, revealing how much it had been costing the company.

  • @aaronsexton6434
    @aaronsexton6434 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have a Gm card and Marcus customer service is a joke. I stopped using the card it was so bad. You can’t pay your bill via check and not pay a late fee.

    • @angelofamillionyears4599
      @angelofamillionyears4599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      exactly- Their interest rates were the highest in the nation , even for great credit scores ! Should be called Goldman Clowns !!
      1

    • @sweetsilly9362
      @sweetsilly9362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who the fk pays with a check 😂😂😂

    • @angelofamillionyears4599
      @angelofamillionyears4599 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sweetsilly9362 You will be when the grid goes down !!! Do you know how to start a fire without electricity? LOL

  • @adtiamzon3663
    @adtiamzon3663 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Consumer banking was forced on Goldman Sachs in 2008 in lieu. Hence, its consumer lending failure is not surprising❗️🫨

  • @ivanr77
    @ivanr77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You don't think a Wells Fargo analyst being the only analyst to comment on Goldman's strategy to provide a bias?

  • @the_asayryan5485
    @the_asayryan5485 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Announced today that they’re selling they’re PFM business, gotta love it

  • @jackjhmc820
    @jackjhmc820 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    150 billion deposits... is that their real aim? I.e fractional banking means they could use 100+ billion to trade in securities?

  • @suisinghoraceho2403
    @suisinghoraceho2403 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wealth management is very different from doing consumer lending is it?

  • @madmaxonliner
    @madmaxonliner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder where's Fabulous Fab now! :D

  • @seamus9347
    @seamus9347 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They gave me a big unsecured loan at 6% interest last fall when the writing was on the wall rates were rapidly increasing :)

  • @johnthicks8568
    @johnthicks8568 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A bank made a poor decision what a surprise.

  • @joshknutson16
    @joshknutson16 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Love how the other contributor is a Wells Fargo employee, obviously aren’t going to paint Goldman in the best light….

  • @praveenspike
    @praveenspike 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should have let go of the regional banks instead of acquiring it.

  • @eskutts
    @eskutts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Why do these big financial institutions have such poor stoploss on their investments? Don't they monitor their positions and investments on a regular basis?🙄🤔🤔🙄 Big shoutout to all the retail traders and investors who always maintain a small, fair and acceptable stoploss on their trades and investments.😎😎😎

    • @Sdakouls3
      @Sdakouls3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Because they know that they will be bailed out with taxpayer money if there is a risk of them losing too much money. Socialism for the rich.

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No one will forget how Goldman Sachs ate Euro just to manipulate the USD there and kept USD hegemony. Goldman Sach is also the owner of the fed.

    • @jz4461
      @jz4461 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My brother in Christ, have you ever seen r/WallStreetBets?!

  • @c0nconc0n18
    @c0nconc0n18 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marcus is pretty solid HYSA though

  • @judyl.7811
    @judyl.7811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:50 he was very much on board with this idea of ...or

  • @rayleeaustralia
    @rayleeaustralia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shareholders taking a loss. Yet the CEO is taking home tens of millions of dollars 🤑🤑🤑

    • @gerardcurtis3911
      @gerardcurtis3911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause GS made tiny losses in consumer lender, and a massive gains from trading, corporate loans, etc.

  • @AlanSmith88888
    @AlanSmith88888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3B to GS is like me and you losing 1000 dollars.
    Not fine, but not the end of the world either.

  • @randomworld4662
    @randomworld4662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3B$ for goldman is like a penny for avergae man

  • @jtstacey83
    @jtstacey83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They absolutely did too much too fast and should have been more strategic. The Apple Card was a big loser as it seemed to lend to anyone with a pulse. The GM card did much better but look at the people getting that card versus Apple.

    • @shinsekai7905
      @shinsekai7905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh Apple cars is great you get 3% back

  • @jackjhmc820
    @jackjhmc820 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    150 billion deposits... is that their real aim? I.e fractional banking means they could use 100+ billion to trade in securities or lend to private equity etc?

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time to split too big to fail.

  • @Mkoivuka
    @Mkoivuka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apple Card was also Apple's first fail.

  • @Fj8282haha
    @Fj8282haha 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U go to everyday ppl with GS products, they turnaround and walk right in Macy to get a gift card

  • @d.wagnerRE
    @d.wagnerRE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going by the way of First Republic and Silicon Bank..

  • @elezabeththomas5250
    @elezabeththomas5250 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like GoldmanSachs got out of consumer lending just in time

  • @118Columbus
    @118Columbus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DJ Sol dropped the ball 🏈 instead of dropping the mic 🎤.

  • @iippo06
    @iippo06 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Only a bank could lose money by lending it.

    • @saitejagutta5338
      @saitejagutta5338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You could lose it too. Just need the person you lent to to not pay you back.

  • @harishjayakumar1385
    @harishjayakumar1385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They have missed to add a stop Loss 😂

  • @keithss67
    @keithss67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    One would think the CEO would resign. But no. These guys never ever take any responsibility

    • @danm4320
      @danm4320 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In my firm, we have grown exponentially because our CEOs initiatives succeeded 85% of the time, but the other r15% of the time it was a failure. His motto is fail fast and try again. It’s why he’s successful. The important thing here is to have a business that can sustain the loss of a failed project and for them it’s not a problem

  • @MRVISTA-wz7vj
    @MRVISTA-wz7vj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will they give the bonuses back from the last 4 years???? That'd be a big no no no no no no😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @behrensf84
    @behrensf84 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Old man sacs got a shakedown…

  • @Nick-pc9tf
    @Nick-pc9tf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An analyst from WELLS FARGO critiqued Goldman Sachs 😂 Skin is thick!

    • @Abbyyena
      @Abbyyena 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right?! My thoughts exactly 😊

  • @ronhamm
    @ronhamm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anytime there are humans involved there will be mistakes made.

  • @angelofamillionyears4599
    @angelofamillionyears4599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Their interest rates were the highest in the nation , even for great credit scores ! Should be called Goldman Clowns !!

  • @mariobenic
    @mariobenic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wrong decision to pull back. The consumer market is always the best market to be in because all businesses ultimately live from the consumer spending. The idea is solid, just not executed well. Once they realised that, they should have improved the execution instead of pulling out. Now all the investments really will be written off as a loss and the project is declared as failed. Shame...

  • @David-wc5zl
    @David-wc5zl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your reminder that these execs should be in prison...and the WSJ protects them.

  • @jenskruse1475
    @jenskruse1475 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Goldman Sachs should be broken up, they have toxic power over the world.

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    strategy of hiding robbed money

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Run up all the unsecured debt you can right now.

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall2023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

  • @mypandabear50344
    @mypandabear50344 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Morgan stanley success in wealth management? really?

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one will forget how Goldman Sachs ate Euro just to manipulate the USD there and kept USD hegemony. Goldman Sach is also the owner of the fed.

  • @smartguy724
    @smartguy724 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And just like that Apple gave up on them too

  • @jemiez9383
    @jemiez9383 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont wory. DJ D-Sol can turn it around but he needs to spin some disc and rave in some club first😂

  • @MeITellYou
    @MeITellYou 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The majority of ppl who work in these places are arrogant and rude ppl to put it nicely. They had it coming

  • @deparado543
    @deparado543 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apple Card !

  • @Raja-ct9xq
    @Raja-ct9xq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Strategic Fail" 😂😂😂😂

  • @mike7106
    @mike7106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    For the Apple Card, it didn’t seem like a good idea to give out credit card to anyone that applied for it.

    • @Wallasmod
      @Wallasmod 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      that’s not the issue

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one will forget how Goldman Sachs ate Euro just to manipulate the USD there and kept USD hegemony. Goldman Sach is also the owner of the fed.

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall2023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lake St. Martin First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

  • @johnd.5601
    @johnd.5601 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This explains why trading (7/24/2023-current) has been absolutely perfect! The market is never perfect. How's that whatsapp going? It is just individuals, not the company....lol. Keep fixing things!

  • @nigh7swimming
    @nigh7swimming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet again, bad decisions and no repercussions.

  • @ryanstevens2722
    @ryanstevens2722 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, "Marcus" is a terrible name, no pizazz

  • @RockandBox
    @RockandBox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $3Bn is nothing for a company with $1.5 TRILLIION under management. This is a click bait story.

  • @sweetvuvuzela4634
    @sweetvuvuzela4634 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good god

  • @lightgatha
    @lightgatha 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too big to fail

  • @adityamishra6389
    @adityamishra6389 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Goldman failed for sure but taking opinion from wells fargo analyst. Seriously.

  • @TMM-N
    @TMM-N 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The ceo need to go
    He cares more diversity and wokeness rather than hiring based on merit

    • @id10t98
      @id10t98 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hardly. He's more interested in being a DJ rock star and bathing in the glory of being a GS CEO. Solomon knows he's got it made for the rest of his life and doesnt give AF anymore.

  • @afihaileywibowo1095
    @afihaileywibowo1095 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just say too confident (read: arrogant)

  • @niekboy67
    @niekboy67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GS fumbled

  • @jtes5604
    @jtes5604 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wavering nice gg tho

  • @neilhamirkeshvala
    @neilhamirkeshvala 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goldman Sachs also discriminates against disabled employees

  • @markroberts3637
    @markroberts3637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goldman/ kinzinger for president

  • @nakulbhandari7395
    @nakulbhandari7395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why can't she speak normally without all the dance moves?

  • @huplim
    @huplim 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Early squad!

  • @Sjalabais
    @Sjalabais 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tim Cook saying "We call it the Apple Card" to much applause just looks more and more like a ridiculous cult being ridiculous as time passes. Great choice of clips!

    • @Agnelum1
      @Agnelum1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had the exact same thought at that moment. How brainwashed are these people?? It was like they'd filled the audience with performing seals that were trained to clap.

  • @REPR100
    @REPR100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need to get rid of the drug using dj ceo

  • @ArturGranatyr
    @ArturGranatyr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Couldn't bring myself to watch till the end. Annamaria face expressions plus her hyped up gesticulations put me off

  • @DistrustHumanz
    @DistrustHumanz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Girl math with a vocal fry.

  • @davegibbs6592
    @davegibbs6592 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another bad look.....humm..

  • @sofabiru6852
    @sofabiru6852 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ♿🙄 "show me the door... "

  • @effigy06
    @effigy06 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greed

  • @kiatwatgiattanonphds5551
    @kiatwatgiattanonphds5551 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because Jamie dimon winner

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish
    @Houthiandtheblowfish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    i dont like the reporters way of speech

    • @minmaxwax
      @minmaxwax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you think you will survive the experience?

    • @Houthiandtheblowfish
      @Houthiandtheblowfish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@minmaxwax It sounds like someone is suffering whilst speaking it is uncomfortable to ears

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one will forget how Goldman Sachs ate Euro just to manipulate the USD there and kept USD hegemony. Goldman Sach is also the owner of the fed.

  • @chastidymann4370
    @chastidymann4370 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own a *Private Bank*. ✅

  • @mohdshariq5814
    @mohdshariq5814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usury is haram according to bible

  • @someonespeci1697
    @someonespeci1697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    toxic masculine firm

    • @angelofamillionyears4599
      @angelofamillionyears4599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. It was Their interest rates were the highest in the nation , even for great credit scores ! Should be called Goldman Clowns !!
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  • @user-ow4ks9bv3n
    @user-ow4ks9bv3n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “It has been revealed to me that a group of jinn listened ˹to the Quran,˺ and said ˹to their fellow jinn˺: ‘Indeed, we have heard a wondrous recitation.
    It leads to Right Guidance so we believed in it, and we will never associate anyone with our Lord ˹in worship˺.
    ˹Now, we believe that˺ our Lord-Exalted is His Majesty-has neither taken a mate nor offspring,
    and that the foolish of us used to utter ˹outrageous˺ falsehoods about Allah.
    We certainly thought that humans and jinn would never speak lies about Allah.
    And some men used to seek refuge with some jinn-so they increased each other in wickedness.

  • @user-ez8cf9jp4s
    @user-ez8cf9jp4s 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pb now they are distributing Cash since 2020 and For Si Talal this is Riba( wa MAATAYTOM MINE RIBA LE.) One kind of Riba , tremendous price increase, then either shortage of some commodities( inflation) and/ or deflation 9f others like Real estate( overstock and dead stock) then Global Crisis

  • @user-jp6hp4qv7l
    @user-jp6hp4qv7l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully they lose everything. These are the true enemy of the ppl

  • @DickNasty480
    @DickNasty480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stick to your knitting, every Goldman employee or former employee think they are the smartest person in the room. Hubris takes down another and Solomon is a clown CEO.