Here's an interesting fact; Zildjian is actually written as Zilciyan ("c" is pronounced similar to "j") in Turkish. In the Ottoman Empire, notable Armenian subjects' last names were based on their vocation with the suffix "-yan" or "-ian" added, meaning "son of" in Armenian. Zilci literally means "bell maker" or "cymbal maker" in Turkish. The name was given to Avedis Zildjian personally by the Ottoman Emperor Osman II the Young along with permission to set up his own shop in Constantinople. The Zildjian family made cymbals for the Ottoman military and the public for nearly 300 years before they moved to the US in the 1910s.
They should show him picking out one that he doesn't like and telling us why. His tinnitus must be so bad by now, how do we know that he can hear even half of the frequencies coming out of those cymbals?
@@soullessSiIence so try deadlifting 100lbs , 20 times a minute . is that hard ? its repetitive . which surgeries are hard ? most that ive seen look easy . once you have the knowledge , looks pretty simple . i think youre just wanting to be an argumentative ass . just a dick .
To all of you who make it possible to make amazing music, thank you for each drop of sweat, each minute of your day, and your amazing attention to detail. Since the first cymbal, I have purchased Zildjian, and I have always been amazed. Without your efforts, I would not be able to pursue my passion!
Part 2 - Zildjian cymbals selling retail for $400 to $900 each. Part 3 - friends not believing you when you inform them your kit is worth $10000+. But $1000 without the cymbals.
Spaz 'n' Megz you can make a $300 Craigslist kit sound great, but if you want decent used jazz cymbals you’re looking at 600 bucks more. Always at least double the price in bronze. Same cymbals new probably $1200 or 4x dr price.
I found brass cymbals to be appropriate for jazz and Studio work, brass rides make excellent Rock crashes, 18 inch brass China's are also good for rock, brass splashes are useless, brass hi-hats are useless unless you're using them for crashes, they make great fast crashes for jazz and Studio
@@RyanAlexanderBloom Lots of online instrument stores have their own private cymbal brands now that are much cheaper than the big brands nowadays. The bad ones will sound like Wuhan clones, but the good ones are mostly on par with the pro-level name brands in terms of sound. Even for jazz you can find a nice affordable set if you are willing to part with brand recognition.
A Zildjian ASMR lol. Love the work that goes into these cymbals. I love buying these cymbals cause I know the history behind the company and how great they sound. Never a dull moment with these guys! Leon is one heck of a cymbal tester. 56 years and not looking at retirement anytime soon. That man LOVES his job.
We definitely need a focus on trade schools in high school. I would of loved to have known I could have gone the route of a machinist to make awesome pieces like these. Beautiful work. I love my trade I'm in now but how cool.
I loved watching every second of this. I feel like I would love to work at a place like this, where the product produced goes on to create something beautiful. I've always been a Zildjian player, and I always will be.
A jerk neighbor of mine threw out a pair of Zildjian high hats, and my Dad found them in the trash and gave them to me. I'm not a drummer (I'm a guitararist) but I still have those hats and will never get rid of them because they are such beautiful pieces of art and design. Thank you Zildjian for making amazing musical art pieces and keeping the bar high in a world plagued by increasingly cheap mediocrity... Thank You Thank You!
One of the best how it’s made videos ..and to be honest I never even thought the demand would be so great to keep a large factory going ..well done guys great stuff
Dude how sweet it would be to work for zildjian and testing these bad boys. You get to play on these for a living. I’ve always wondered how these were made. Thanks for the video! Very informative!
Now when I play them and I can appreciate that it is not only me making music. It is amazing the amount of work that going into making a single cymbal. Thank you for showing this!
I love all the major brands and have always been a Zildjian man and currently own a pretty good size set of them but then came Meinl into my life and they stole my heart and I never thought any cymbal company could pull me away from my beautiful sounding Zildjians but they did! Now I'm slowly converting all my set to the very unique style and by far are the best modern looking and sounding cymbals as to where the other companies are stuck in the past when it comes to style and sound. Most Zildjian and Sabians have a common sound as where Meinl cymbals are so very unique and distinct in the sound. They are the new and top dominating kids on the block now. All other majors need to step up from that 70s look and modernize their look and creative sounds. Meinl is doing that as we speak now, don't hate, this is just my opinion as I respect anybody else's opinion. I'm curious as to what responses I'm going too get back!!! ✌❤ and drums baby, if your preference is different I like to here why, like i said i respect anyone's opinion so shoot😁
No cymbal company is stuck in the 70s All the majors are bringing new cymbals and sounds to drummers every year. Yes, they all have good sounding gear but im a Dedicated pAisTe guy. Beautiful !! Durable !!! Consistent !!!! Buy 2 crash cymbals and they sound alike. This cymbal tester says they all sound different. Dont make sence to me. And i feel that pAisTe is more committed to QUALITY. How many symphony orchestras around the world use a zildjian/wuhan or other Gongs compared to paiste?? Its all a preference by ear. Just my 2 cents... But paiste gongs DO out number the others 10-1 on the world stage.
I adore my A-Customs - I dreamt of having these as a kid, and over the years bought one here and there to eventually complete my set :) I even had the pleasure of buying some brand new, a couple of crashes, a ride and my hi-Hats- (a-custom master sounds) and they are all stunning - keep it up Zildjian!
I JUST HAPPENED TO STUMBLE UPON THE ZILDJIAN SITE SHOWING HOW THIER CYMBALS ARE MADE , WOW , NOW THIS OUGHTA BE COOL !!!!!!! BE BACK WHEN IT'S OVER !!!!
In about 1984 I bought my first drum kit, when my disapproving parents were away on vacation. Went into Washington DC and bought an old Rogers jazz kit with 18" bass drum. Came with a bunch of old Zildjian cymbals, including a sizzle ride and a 24" ride. I was young and stupid, thought the 24" ride must've been an orchestra cymbal mistakenly put with the kit, because it had such a strange (to my ears) set of overtones. So I sold it. Oh, what I would give to have that old huge ride back again!
Dr Drum I personally like Meinl the most, Zildjian is too high pitched for me with most of their cymbals. They got some damn good trash crash’s though.
Thank you for all the work you do by putting your hard work into making one of the best cymbals ever and bringing out the best sound in metal love everyone of you all that bleed sweat and make the music sound so beautiful and joyful your hard work doesn’t go unappreciated I’ve been playing with zildjian since I first started playing drums still my fav cymbals period
One-day ago I was in a pawn shop. I needed to sell some brass cheap cymbals. 95.00 was the most they were worth. It was really all I could get. Drum set cymbals. I noticed a pair of 14" new beat hi hats. The owner gave me 35.00 cash and the zildjian hi hats. My search for the new beats was 1970s Co. I can't believe how much I love these hi hats. Finally my luck has changed. Bar keepers friend made them look brand new.
Reminds me of making lead fishing weights with my dad. The sound of that "kur-plunk" when it hit the waters of Lake St. Clair was music to your ears. Not this complicated but as satisfying as listening to a cool record.
I have heard that too. Why is it? Better alloys available there? Better craftsmanship? I can sometimes distinguish a really great cymbal sound but not very often.
@@patrickgroll2046 they take the time needed to shape the cymbal by hand and each cymbal has a dedicated craftsman who works on it instead of sending a bunch of metal through a bunch of expensive machines
Too my ears, Zildjian has, overall, some of the best and unique sounding cymbals in the industry...Paiste, Meinl, Avanti, et al have some nice ones too but...The Entire K line of Zildjian is unbeatable for cut through, sustain, sweet spots and durability...
Your great great grandfather they lived in Turkey. Then they emigrated to America. If they did not go :((( , the world's best quality bells would be produced in our country today. I wish you continued success. The Ziljian brothers are proud of you. May the places be heaven. Thanks also for the tshirt of your employees. You are a company that makes your past live very well. Thank's for all.
Its not far from how Sabians artisans do it for their Artisan or custom artist cymbals. After all Sabian took ALL of Zildjians original artisans in the company separation so they know the entirety of the process. So theres nothing Zildjian does that is that secretive that another company cant replicate today. Its just different machineries but essentially its all accessible in their patents. If its not a patent, its not secret.
I'd love to see cymbals being buffed to a brilliant finish. Also a demo of all the different heads used to hammer the K lines. And why does the lathe that Paul was using have the auto arm attachment while some lathes are 100% human operated? What's the reasoning behind automating half of the process vs lathing 100% by hand?
A whole lot of different tones goes in the making of Zildjian. God bless you all and families eternally. I love you all as Jesus does. Be well, safe and happy, then walk complete in love.
Say what you want about the price, but the process leads to a hell of a tone and sound quality, I tried a few other brands, never again, I will stick to Zildjian till I die, thanks for sharing, and thanks to the employees who work hard to bring us the best cymbals
the pad printing and laser etching reminded me of a plastic factory I worked in back in Wisconsin. made plastic car buttons that go in jeeps and things. pretty neat technology
love the thought that every zildjian cymbal ive ever played has been hit a few times by that old guy. makes em feel special
I understand this comment but I can't understand why I'm laughing so hard
Nick does Quad drumming you know jokes exist right?
No music, no narration. Just a bunch of folks working hard to make a great product.
Here's an interesting fact; Zildjian is actually written as Zilciyan ("c" is pronounced similar to "j") in Turkish.
In the Ottoman Empire, notable Armenian subjects' last names were based on their vocation with the suffix "-yan" or "-ian" added, meaning "son of" in Armenian.
Zilci literally means "bell maker" or "cymbal maker" in Turkish. The name was given to Avedis Zildjian personally by the Ottoman Emperor Osman II the Young along with permission to set up his own shop in Constantinople. The Zildjian family made cymbals for the Ottoman military and the public for nearly 300 years before they moved to the US in the 1910s.
If you understand the reference this was what was playing in my head: Istanbul was Cobstantinople and Istanbul was Constantinople
Fun fact:
No one asked
They use too much machinery. In istanbul still handmade.
Damn. Cymbal tester at the end is the real MVP!
Thought the same!! He's the human, musical touch, can't not have him.
KIBanshee9 love that guy, because he loves his work. The real deal.
He needs some recognition. The guy 's been working half his life to making these. He's a true drum God.
They should show him picking out one that he doesn't like and telling us why. His tinnitus must be so bad by now, how do we know that he can hear even half of the frequencies coming out of those cymbals?
@@MarkyPaligs - Half his life, makes him 112. I plan to retire before then!
the part where the grinding literally walks up the C major scale is awesome, 5:08
Those octaves, tho!
That’s impressive!
its a little off
Came here to say this, so happy to see others heard it too. Beautiful stuff. I want one of those raw, precut, unlathed MFers....
C Major with a #4 and a b7(?)
I hope these guys get freaking paid well cause that doesn't look like an easy job.
Almost anything based on mere repetition is easy to do, give it a try. Doing surgery... Now that's hard.
No it doesn't. Especially the guys who are in the furnaces. Wow!
@@soullessSiIence so try deadlifting 100lbs , 20 times a minute . is that hard ? its repetitive . which surgeries are hard ? most that ive seen look easy . once you have the knowledge , looks pretty simple .
i think youre just wanting to be an argumentative ass . just a dick .
Despair it becomes easier physically but wil eventually become painfully repetitive
Look how people works at turkish factories)
To all of you who make it possible to make amazing music, thank you for each drop of sweat, each minute of your day, and your amazing attention to detail. Since the first cymbal, I have purchased Zildjian, and I have always been amazed. Without your efforts, I would not be able to pursue my passion!
As a bassist, the ring of a Zildjian makes swinging fun!
thanks zildjian marketing team
I've been playing and collecting vintage Zildjian cymbals for 30+ years. Have well over 200 Zildjian. The best in my book.
stonerdrums holy crap!! I’d love to see and hear em in person
What's your address? For reasons
So you've spent like 4 billion on cymbals
I have a hand hammered 16" K Zildjian made in Constantinople from the 1920's that I've owned for over 30 years that still has the most amazing sound.
The envy is real
Part 2 - Zildjian cymbals selling retail for $400 to $900 each.
Part 3 - friends not believing you when you inform them your kit is worth $10000+. But $1000 without the cymbals.
Spaz 'n' Megz you can make a $300 Craigslist kit sound great, but if you want decent used jazz cymbals you’re looking at 600 bucks more. Always at least double the price in bronze. Same cymbals new probably $1200 or 4x dr price.
I found brass cymbals to be appropriate for jazz and Studio work, brass rides make excellent Rock crashes, 18 inch brass China's are also good for rock, brass splashes are useless, brass hi-hats are useless unless you're using them for crashes, they make great fast crashes for jazz and Studio
@@theepworthepiscopalspike8260 that's
Nice
Technically the metal is the cheapest component, it’s the tools, machinery, and American labor that brings the price up that high
@@RyanAlexanderBloom Lots of online instrument stores have their own private cymbal brands now that are much cheaper than the big brands nowadays. The bad ones will sound like Wuhan clones, but the good ones are mostly on par with the pro-level name brands in terms of sound. Even for jazz you can find a nice affordable set if you are willing to part with brand recognition.
Thank you for not putting music over this!
omg ibite lives! happy to see your comment under here, man :)
ASMR
Omg your alive
Or narrating!
How refreshing was that right! I said the same thing.
The magic man - 56 years testing cymbals!
But with all that testing, does he hear anything above 10kHz any more??
Side Parting Does he hear anything at all???
That cymbol testers work ethic is simply sublime, I hope he gets well taken care of financially and instrument wise. What a great bloke.
I am a hardcore fan of Zildjian Cymbals I love the sound of those cymbals. I would love to be part of the Zildjian family.
A workplace where if you drop the product your working on, it sounds like slapstick comedy.
LMFAO 😂
I've been an Ironworker and a drummer. Just wanna say this is so darn respectable. Very cool! I didn't know this much work went into cymbals!!!
Love the fact that somebody cares enough to play, not just test, every cymbal that comes out of that factory.
I love my 20 inch Zildjian ride
A Zildjian ASMR lol. Love the work that goes into these cymbals. I love buying these cymbals cause I know the history behind the company and how great they sound. Never a dull moment with these guys! Leon is one heck of a cymbal tester. 56 years and not looking at retirement anytime soon. That man LOVES his job.
Ok now I know why they cost so much, never complaining again
I'have been lucky enough to see this process in person..amazing company..........PROUD TO PLAY ZILDJIANS
So how much does it cost to just show up and get a tour of the factory ?
This whole process is outstandingly beautiful
Leon Chiappini looks like a guy who has loved his job every day he's worked. He may be my new spirit animal.
We definitely need a focus on trade schools in high school. I would of loved to have known I could have gone the route of a machinist to make awesome pieces like these. Beautiful work. I love my trade I'm in now but how cool.
There are so many fascinating sounds in making the cymbal itself. This was was very cool.
"I've been testing [cymbals] for 56 years."
"Wow, you must really love your job."
"What?! I can't hear you! You'll have to speak up!"
I SAID, "YOU MUST REALLY LOVE YOUR JOB".
@@richardwarren1718 wait what?
So glad you guys made an updated video of this.
I loved watching every second of this. I feel like I would love to work at a place like this, where the product produced goes on to create something beautiful. I've always been a Zildjian player, and I always will be.
A jerk neighbor of mine threw out a pair of Zildjian high hats, and my Dad found them in the trash and gave them to me. I'm not a drummer (I'm a guitararist) but I still have those hats and will never get rid of them because they are such beautiful pieces of art and design. Thank you Zildjian for making amazing musical art pieces and keeping the bar high in a world plagued by increasingly cheap mediocrity... Thank You Thank You!
Nick Johnson I can’t believe anyone would throw them out. I’d donate them to a school music section.
Lucky You.
I hope my neighbour also like that
zildjian trash lids are cheap mediocrity...
#paistegang
We all need to be a little like Leon Chiappini. That man truly loves what he does.
Outstanding video! Thank you for not putting silly music over it.
One of the best how it’s made videos ..and to be honest I never even thought the demand would be so great to keep a large factory going ..well done guys great stuff
Dude how sweet it would be to work for zildjian and testing these bad boys. You get to play on these for a living. I’ve always wondered how these were made. Thanks for the video! Very informative!
What a privilege to work at avedis Zildjian, It is my favorite brand of dishes, A big greeting to all.
I love my new Zildjian S Series Rock Cymbals... These Cymbals Sound Excellent. Well worth the money too
The stamping of the cymbal is perhaps the most satisfying thing in the world
Now when I play them and I can appreciate that it is not only me making music. It is amazing the amount of work that going into making a single cymbal. Thank you for showing this!
I love all the major brands and have always been a Zildjian man and currently own a pretty good size set of them but then came Meinl into my life and they stole my heart and I never thought any cymbal company could pull me away from my beautiful sounding Zildjians but they did! Now I'm slowly converting all my set to the very unique style and by far are the best modern looking and sounding cymbals as to where the other companies are stuck in the past when it comes to style and sound. Most Zildjian and Sabians have a common sound as where Meinl cymbals are so very unique and distinct in the sound. They are the new and top dominating kids on the block now. All other majors need to step up from that 70s look and modernize their look and creative sounds. Meinl is doing that as we speak now, don't hate, this is just my opinion as I respect anybody else's opinion. I'm curious as to what responses I'm going too get back!!! ✌❤ and drums baby, if your preference is different I like to here why, like i said i respect anyone's opinion so shoot😁
I haven’t found I Meinl I like yet
K con man all the way here.
No cymbal company is stuck in the 70s
All the majors are bringing new cymbals and sounds to drummers every year.
Yes, they all have good sounding gear but im a Dedicated pAisTe guy.
Beautiful !! Durable !!! Consistent !!!!
Buy 2 crash cymbals and they sound alike. This cymbal tester says they all sound different. Dont make sence to me.
And i feel that pAisTe is more committed to QUALITY.
How many symphony orchestras around the world use a zildjian/wuhan or other Gongs compared to paiste??
Its all a preference by ear.
Just my 2 cents...
But paiste gongs DO out number the others 10-1 on the world stage.
I love the absolute absence of anything resembling craftsmanship.
Love how they have a drumstick in their back pocket
I love cool stuff like this being made in the USA. What beautiful work you guys make.
These cymbals are my all time favorite. Thank you guys for making such revolutionary and awesome cymbals for us drummers
You can hear the sound of the cymbal as it changes throughout the manufacturing process. Brilliantly edited video.
5:11 Lmao the cymbal plays some scales while being lathed
I adore my A-Customs - I dreamt of having these as a kid, and over the years bought one here and there to eventually complete my set :) I even had the pleasure of buying some brand new, a couple of crashes, a ride and my hi-Hats- (a-custom master sounds) and they are all stunning - keep it up Zildjian!
I own several of your cymbals. They are the best in the industry.
I just bought a 19 K sweet crash and I love it. You guys are doing a great job 👍🏼
thanks for not adding music!! so cool to hear the real sounds going on!!
I JUST HAPPENED TO STUMBLE UPON THE ZILDJIAN SITE SHOWING HOW THIER CYMBALS ARE MADE , WOW , NOW THIS OUGHTA BE COOL !!!!!!! BE BACK WHEN IT'S OVER !!!!
In about 1984 I bought my first drum kit, when my disapproving parents were away on vacation. Went into Washington DC and bought an old Rogers jazz kit with 18" bass drum. Came with a bunch of old Zildjian cymbals, including a sizzle ride and a 24" ride. I was young and stupid, thought the 24" ride must've been an orchestra cymbal mistakenly put with the kit, because it had such a strange (to my ears) set of overtones. So I sold it. Oh, what I would give to have that old huge ride back again!
That speaks a lot for Zildjian old mans been working there since the 1960s he loves the cymbals and the job ❤️
The Best cymbals in the world, I love Zildjian 😍📀🥁 saludos desde Mexico 🇲🇽
Dr Drum I personally like Meinl the most, Zildjian is too high pitched for me with most of their cymbals. They got some damn good trash crash’s though.
Wow I always thought these were made in turkey. Thanks for the wonderful post and update
Thank you for all the work you do by putting your hard work into making one of the best cymbals ever and bringing out the best sound in metal love everyone of you all that bleed sweat and make the music sound so beautiful and joyful your hard work doesn’t go unappreciated I’ve been playing with zildjian since I first started playing drums still my fav cymbals period
some super heroes are the guys who make cymbals.. salute to you, sirs!
PURE MAGIC MAGNIFICENT VIDEO TURNING NOTHING INTO A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART!!!!! BRAVO
Very cool upload! Crazy to think about how cymbals start out :)
How incredible! Thank you very much for posting this.
I loved the tones the cymbals produced as he was latheing. Going up the scale. Very musical
I need to keep buying cymbals to keep these guys going!
This is actually heaps more satisfying then any video that’s meant to be satisfying
One-day ago I was in a pawn shop. I needed to sell some brass cheap cymbals. 95.00 was the most they were worth. It was really all I could get. Drum set cymbals. I noticed a pair of 14" new beat hi hats. The owner gave me 35.00 cash and the zildjian hi hats. My search for the new beats was 1970s Co. I can't believe how much I love these hi hats. Finally my luck has changed. Bar keepers friend made them look brand new.
Reminds me of making lead fishing weights with my dad. The sound of that "kur-plunk" when it hit the waters of Lake St. Clair was music to your ears. Not this complicated but as satisfying as listening to a cool record.
This is where you go when you get promoted at Domino's.
No. That is pizzahut
Little Caesars as well
7:50 This guy has the best job ever!
The best!!! Always interested technological process from traditional to brilliant finish.
Love, love, love
those A Customs.
Very great process of building cymbals. They can always make new cymbals with style 👍
56 years as a tester..... fantastic
5:10 that cymbal just hit the whole note scale 😂
love that they are man made and not a bunch of robots spitting these out
imagine testing cymbals for 56 years! holy crap!
The best cymbals still come from Turkey, where Zildjian was based for a long time.
I have heard that too. Why is it? Better alloys available there? Better craftsmanship? I can sometimes distinguish a really great cymbal sound but not very often.
@@patrickgroll2046 they take the time needed to shape the cymbal by hand and each cymbal has a dedicated craftsman who works on it instead of sending a bunch of metal through a bunch of expensive machines
Coz in usa its not handmade anymore.
Love my Zildjian A's (New Beats/Sweet Ride/Med Thin Crashes)
At 2:14 I couldn’t help but laugh at the little noise it made. Awesome to see the process of how they’re made
So cool to see how my A Customs are made. Thanks for sharing!
OMG. The guy tested all my cymbals that I bought since 1981!!!
Too my ears, Zildjian has, overall, some of the best and unique sounding cymbals in the industry...Paiste, Meinl, Avanti, et al have some nice ones too but...The Entire K line of Zildjian is unbeatable for cut through, sustain, sweet spots and durability...
I never knew shovels were used so much in the making of cymbals
Talk about hard work! Must be such a Magical Experience working there..
I am a guitarist and know little about idiophones. Thank you, drummers! Nice video.
Thanks for sharing! Now I'm off to show my 18" uptown ride some love :)
Good choice! :)
This is so beautiful! I love Zildjian cymbals!
Darth loves this dark side of force.
Im gonna get a a sweet ride 21 inches and after seeing this it makes me feel happier that im getting zildjian
The hi hat solo at 8:45 was awesome at 2x speed.
hahaha I love that guys enthusiasm while testing them out
Hands down, my favorite cymbal brand
Your great great grandfather they lived in Turkey. Then they emigrated to America. If they did not go :((( , the world's best quality bells would be produced in our country today. I wish you continued success. The Ziljian brothers are proud of you. May the places be heaven. Thanks also for the tshirt of your employees. You are a company that makes your past live very well. Thank's for all.
Interesting! It's not that long ago that Zildjian was still very secretive about its manufacturing process, if I recall correctly.
Istanbul made still are...
Its not far from how Sabians artisans do it for their Artisan or custom artist cymbals. After all Sabian took ALL of Zildjians original artisans in the company separation so they know the entirety of the process. So theres nothing Zildjian does that is that secretive that another company cant replicate today. Its just different machineries but essentially its all accessible in their patents. If its not a patent, its not secret.
They showed the process directly from the cymbal "pucks" , the secret process was already done
Mesmerizing to watch
Amazing production line and craftsmanship. I remember my very first ZBT+ set 20 yrs ago!
this is not easy job, thanks sir for making cymbal🙌
Love learning and watching things being made. This is top of the list.
I'd love to see cymbals being buffed to a brilliant finish. Also a demo of all the different heads used to hammer the K lines. And why does the lathe that Paul was using have the auto arm attachment while some lathes are 100% human operated? What's the reasoning behind automating half of the process vs lathing 100% by hand?
the best way to appreciate this : HIT the cymbal with the right way
Great Cymbals, Great Video! 🤘🏼📀🥁📀🤘🏼
The best cymbals for me..... Perfect sounds
A whole lot of different tones goes in the making of Zildjian.
God bless you all and families eternally. I love you all as Jesus does. Be well, safe and happy, then walk complete in love.
Alternate title: How tinnitus is formed
Maybe I'm a dork but I found this exciting and fascinating
Say what you want about the price, but the process leads to a hell of a tone and sound quality, I tried a few other brands, never again, I will stick to Zildjian till I die, thanks for sharing, and thanks to the employees who work hard to bring us the best cymbals
the pad printing and laser etching reminded me of a plastic factory I worked in back in Wisconsin. made plastic car buttons that go in jeeps and things. pretty neat technology