I dont think thats an issue anymore, scalpers lost ALOT of money from 40 supers and ps5 pro, there wer even news about scalpers selling 40 series for msrp back in 2022. They probably learned their lesson by now
apparently the only way nvidia could get the fe 5090 into two slots was with liquid metal between the die and cooler. unless partners are willing to risk liquid metal, phone books they will probably stay 😭
I've had my 4090 Suprim since launch and it's fantastic. Always cool and quiet because it's so over-built. I'm curious if these ones will share those characteristics despite the TBP being 575W.
Certainly liking the design of the Vanguard cards, though I'm not sure why I care since I have all mesh/blackout cases anyway. My current MSI 4070Ti is indeed the Gaming X Trio though.
Agree with the Vangaurd looking slick. I’ll be buying a 5090, but my dilemma is all this nice hardware in SSRM52 rack mount. I need a ‘normal’ windowed desktop case to show kit off!!
I will sit on the fence until all the testing and benchmarks for these GPU comes out. i am more interested in new innovation in cases, fans and AIOs and hopefully they are affordable.
Man, damn... The SUPRIM LIQUID is the best GPU setup ever. It is so efficent ,that I am never looking at traditional air cooled setups again. Seriously, it always keeps the GPU cool and performance is super stable in high performance. I have x3 of these and they work like a magic in my 3d workstation, sometimes rendering 5 days in a row, full power, full speed. Never crashing. You skipped to talk about this new card is a reall disapointment. It is the pinacle of GPU's.
I personally like the Vanguard, the blend of angles and carbon fibre makes the GPU very sexy. But of course, if i had the cash to throw, the SUPRIM is the kingg :)
Its in the fine print mate. In a handful of games that have dlss4 support your fake frames will make it look like you are playing on a 4090. But the latency will not improve.
Ive always like the Suprim, i really like the shinny brushed aluminum design more than any other AIB deisgn. Shame theyre almot never in stock and when they are its almost always being sold by some third party vendor and grossly overpriced for the already high asking price MSI set for the higher tier design. Almost so high you can bump up to another GPU class. Vanguard is looking pretty sick too. Also ive noticed AIBS dont make their high end cooler for AMD cards. Only Powercolor and Sapphire.
Those "Inspire" series cards look sick! I can't stand the stupid dragon logo that's on most of MSI's stuff, so the Inspire cards are a welcome addition to the lineup. They would go well with an ASRock Taichi mobo, lol.
Thanks Nick. I miss EVGA soooo much. 😟 Not interested in anything wider than 2-slots. Why? Because anything wider than 2-slots means a blatant lack of engineering effort. At these prices... a lack of engineering effort = profit greed.
AIB partner (aka aftermarket or non-reference-design) cards have always been huge, lol. Look at the Asus ROG 4090, that thing is probably over twice the size of the reference 4090. It's so they can use a big chungus heatsink to keep the cards cool while overclocked and under load playing games.
The 5090 FE is using Liquid Metal on the GPU. That means they need much beefier coolers. I doubt many AIBs want to mess with liquid metal right out of the gate.
Whats crazy is the founders exition is so much nicer tha. An aib board partner cards...i mean 2 slot cor a 5090 why are they still doing 4 alots for the 5090...dumb
That's ALWAYS been the case. Dunno why you're disappointed. Personally I like the big chungus coolers even though it may be unnecessary. Helps to fill out your case and prevent it from looking empty.
@ because I know I won’t be lucky enough to snag a founders lol. I’m a small form factor type of person. Can’t wait for the dimensions of third party cards release (if they already haven’t). As long as there is a 5080 the size of the EVGA FTW3 3080 I’ll be happy.
wow, they are twice the size of the founders 5090. surely they could do the same as a founders but hey, gotta milk the customers for all the $$$ they can get
Funny how everyone wants more FPS, 200,300, even 600 fps plus. But yet they are playing on a 100hz or 144hz or 165hz ETC. which is your max FPS. your monitor can not show more frames than what it is built for. " IM GETTING 386FPS in 1080p on a 165hz NO YOUR NOT!" YOUR MAXED TO 165. Spend your money wisely people. After 2080ti. Nvidia got even more greedy and now making class action lawsuit claims with the 50 series. using AI. I will never buy green again.
Its okay guys none of us are gonna get em scalpers will till 6 series drops
Saludos 🤘
I dont think thats an issue anymore, scalpers lost ALOT of money from 40 supers and ps5 pro, there wer even news about scalpers selling 40 series for msrp back in 2022. They probably learned their lesson by now
@@fran117If your statement was true there wouldn't be 4080 supers at 1300$ and 4090s at 2000$
@@fran117maybe.. If trump goes through with crypto it could be 2021 all over again.
@Javingil yep tarrifs going to hit hard is what i bet will happen
MORE!! Need that CES coverage!!
Absolutely love the MSI designs, but these cards are getting way too beefy😂
They are pretty large!
tbh the Ventus and Gaming Trio lines are looking pretty tame compared to higher ones
and expensive 😂
The reference cards are actually smaller because of the flow through design. More power at the top end tho.
@@kiankit lol yeah
I dig the look of the Inspire cooler. I wonder where MSI is planning to put in, in terms of their pricing structure.
Im really curious how the 5090 FE will hold up to these giant monster versions.
Probably just fine. They’re using Liquid Metal and a smarter cooler design. Vs a traditional cooler design with thermal paste That’s just big.
FE’s are meant to be utilized for their higher binned GPU’s, stripped of their coolers and water blocked for overclocking. Change my mind
Coming from a day one 4090 Suprim Liquid X with no issues, I really hope I can get ahold of the 5090 Suprim Liquid SOC...
The Vanguard is by far my favorite. Its looks so sleek but aggressive.
nice to see a close to true 2 slot 5080
sad its really a 5070
it's good to see cards finally get smaller... except for the 5090's. Those are phonebooks at this rate
apparently the only way nvidia could get the fe 5090 into two slots was with liquid metal between the die and cooler. unless partners are willing to risk liquid metal, phone books they will probably stay 😭
@@MarauderYT but isn't liquid metal difficult to remove in case the gpu needs to be opened?
@ yep
I dont expect many should be trying to oc their fe 5090s 😅
I love the look of the white 5080, I wish the 5090 had a white variation.
Whats bigger, the Vangaurd or the Suprim? I want the fattest 5090. 😊
Could you check out the INNIO3D range? They have listed the smallest cards on the market.
Can you also test pcie gen4 vs 5 with those cards
I've had my 4090 Suprim since launch and it's fantastic. Always cool and quiet because it's so over-built. I'm curious if these ones will share those characteristics despite the TBP being 575W.
is the small form factor only for 5070? is there a small form factor 5080?
The Inspire 5080 looked pretty small.
I love that white glossy look on that card!!!
Love seeing 2-slot cards. Just need a blower version.
Certainly liking the design of the Vanguard cards, though I'm not sure why I care since I have all mesh/blackout cases anyway. My current MSI 4070Ti is indeed the Gaming X Trio though.
Gahd Dahm!!!!
That 5070 statement was pretty wild!!! 🤣
Keen to see what you guys think of it when it’s in your grubby little hands
Agree with the Vangaurd looking slick. I’ll be buying a 5090, but my dilemma is all this nice hardware in SSRM52 rack mount. I need a ‘normal’ windowed desktop case to show kit off!!
Where would be be able to order these and what day would they be available?
Did they have a 5070ti white trio model? I can't see it listed on their site.
waiting for the NVIDIA founder edition 2 slots temps test .....THE 5070TI VENTUS is very nice and tiny .
How much are they? I like the AIB cards but if they are $$$ more than the Founders, then I'll just get the Founders.
But will it fit an ATX mobo?
Why get a brick that big when Nvidia are making em a 2 slot size ?
That sff card is going hard!
Thank you, please show me the Noctua booth.
I guess I'll be waiting till the dust or smoke settles before I upgrade. I'm sure the promised pricing will evaporite once launched. :(
nice, new Ventus line design.
That water cooler card would be great in your Silverstone RM-52
gotta to be honest, im excited to build a new rig.
I will sit on the fence until all the testing and benchmarks for these GPU comes out.
i am more interested in new innovation in cases, fans and AIOs and hopefully they are affordable.
The new Ventus design looks WAY btter than the slightly organic designs they've had in the past. I hope they keep it like the one he was holding.
We NEED more all white gpu's, including fans & heatsink ect. But i do like the MSI white design.
Those vanguard cards are MASSIVE hahaha, love it
You misspelled pricey
5070 ti Inspire might be my next GPU if it's not too far above MSRP! Should look nice in my old Meshify C case :)
I was here before the title fix 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Looking forward to all the CES coverage!
Those sizes are just insane atp.
I hate thet they made the suprim liquid with 360 radiator instead of 240, reference card are gaettinng smaller theirs are getting bigger!
caught the title change
All of Suprim, Vanguard and Gaming Trio (along with Asus Astral) are on my shopping list. I don't care which one I can manage to get.
Why are the cards so light?
Probably been lifting too many 4090s 😂
DAMN THE WHITE GAMING TRIO LOOOOKSSS SOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD
Man, damn... The SUPRIM LIQUID is the best GPU setup ever. It is so efficent ,that I am never looking at traditional air cooled setups again. Seriously, it always keeps the GPU cool and performance is super stable in high performance. I have x3 of these and they work like a magic in my 3d workstation, sometimes rendering 5 days in a row, full power, full speed. Never crashing. You skipped to talk about this new card is a reall disapointment. It is the pinacle of GPU's.
7:20 bless you
Can't wait to see comparisons against 4090
Will definitely get the 5090 suprim and sell my 4090 suprim
FE still has the best looking, proart second
love that there are more white cards
Waiting on the Gigabyte Brand!
Yoiks! In my currency with GST and markup, your looking at $4k for a 5090. Makes a 4090 look like an absolute bargain now
We need some white gpu for my new white build :p
i cannot wait to see a mini itx 5090 with Ryzen 9950x or Intel i9 .. if i see one i will build one. :)
I personally like the Vanguard, the blend of angles and carbon fibre makes the GPU very sexy.
But of course, if i had the cash to throw, the SUPRIM is the kingg :)
I wish AiB’s would emulate the FE cards, I want to build a sff build not doing it with those chonky cards.
MSI showed us a concept based on the FE design but didn't have a physical card to show us
@oh yay, also thank you for all the cool build ideas. I’ve meant to say that a 1000 times. Have fun!
Its in the fine print mate. In a handful of games that have dlss4 support your fake frames will make it look like you are playing on a 4090. But the latency will not improve.
Nick is looking very spicy!
Saludos 🤘
If Nvidia can make a 2 slot 5090, why are manufacturers still making 3.5 slot cards? Normalize 2 slot cards so we can all fit it in our builds please!
Why can't more vendors just sell us a card with just a waterblock?
When the new GPU cost more than your rent.
BEST MSI!! sad Jeremy didn't there :(
These GPUs are massive. Starting to look more like air conditioners.
and they still make 3 slot card.. give us 2 slot card..
can we just drop the dragon already?
It is scientifically proven that you get 2 FPS extra for each RGB put on a graphics card!
sorry no fake frames allowed
any gpu that is taking up 3 slots and above is ridiculous.
I heard ventus cards have terrible cooling
Ive always like the Suprim, i really like the shinny brushed aluminum design more than any other AIB deisgn. Shame theyre almot never in stock and when they are its almost always being sold by some third party vendor and grossly overpriced for the already high asking price MSI set for the higher tier design. Almost so high you can bump up to another GPU class.
Vanguard is looking pretty sick too.
Also ive noticed AIBS dont make their high end cooler for AMD cards. Only Powercolor and Sapphire.
Those "Inspire" series cards look sick! I can't stand the stupid dragon logo that's on most of MSI's stuff, so the Inspire cards are a welcome addition to the lineup. They would go well with an ASRock Taichi mobo, lol.
I've never had FE cards, I always chose MSI, but I think this time I'll choose FE
I use to go FE then went Asus twice. Know I’m going for the FE no matter what.
Los Angeles is burning like a straw, and I'm watching the 5000 series here
loved the bronze one
Thanks Nick.
I miss EVGA soooo much. 😟
Not interested in anything wider than 2-slots.
Why? Because anything wider than 2-slots means a blatant lack of engineering effort.
At these prices... a lack of engineering effort = profit greed.
Im still with my 3080
I hope 5060 will get more than 8 gb of ram.
Nope 60 class is a waste of money.
The 5070 is equal to the 4090... from a certain point of view
False it’s equal to a 3090 in pure rasterization performance.
So, no Suprim 5080. How disappointing.
There is a suprim 5080
@@GearSeekers Great. I did not saw you showing it, so I assume that there is not. Thanks.
It doesn't matter they are all going to be overpriced
Why are they so much bigger than FE cards? Yikes
They are probably trying to push the clock speeds to differentiate themselves. In the end you are just buying your favorite wrapper.
AIB partner (aka aftermarket or non-reference-design) cards have always been huge, lol. Look at the Asus ROG 4090, that thing is probably over twice the size of the reference 4090. It's so they can use a big chungus heatsink to keep the cards cool while overclocked and under load playing games.
Just get a waterblock. Then, every GPU is a 1-2 slot :)
The 5090 FE is using Liquid Metal on the GPU. That means they need much beefier coolers. I doubt many AIBs want to mess with liquid metal right out of the gate.
Because Nvidia scaming people like you making thin 5090 FE 😂 I sure that reference card will have bad temps, obviously 😁
rtx 4090 owners boiling from inside out
The Asus RTX 5000 series cards look the best.
Whats crazy is the founders exition is so much nicer tha. An aib board partner cards...i mean 2 slot cor a 5090 why are they still doing 4 alots for the 5090...dumb
Cannot wait to get my msi 5090 suprim x liquid. Super excited
These look far bigger than the founders models based on dimensions… and I must say I’m very disappointed if that’s true.
That's ALWAYS been the case. Dunno why you're disappointed.
Personally I like the big chungus coolers even though it may be unnecessary. Helps to fill out your case and prevent it from looking empty.
@ because I know I won’t be lucky enough to snag a founders lol. I’m a small form factor type of person. Can’t wait for the dimensions of third party cards release (if they already haven’t). As long as there is a 5080 the size of the EVGA FTW3 3080 I’ll be happy.
@@592Johno annnnnd asus has released the dimension. I’m lost now without Evga.
@@Fliim there definitely gonna be smaller coolers, AIBS dont really do marketing for them cus it's usually nothing special
@@FliimMicro Center, Bestbuy, MSI and Asus will sell the FE versions.
5070 HAVE 4090 performance with dlss 4 x4 . raster impossible obvious
wow, they are twice the size of the founders 5090. surely they could do the same as a founders but hey, gotta milk the customers for all the $$$ they can get
Built 3 pcs for the family 4 years ago. The only one still running is the one with NO MSI parts. 100% failure rate for me. MSI is dead to me.
Mmm spicy 🌶🌶
Saludos 🤘
As long as they offer a white card in decent price, I really don't care.
thanks
Scalpers are gonna waste their $2000+, no one will buy them over sticker
We heard that before, and we know what actually ends up happening.
Spicyyyy
Funny how everyone wants more FPS, 200,300, even 600 fps plus. But yet they are playing on a 100hz or 144hz or 165hz ETC. which is your max FPS. your monitor can not show more frames than what it is built for. " IM GETTING 386FPS in 1080p on a 165hz NO YOUR NOT!" YOUR MAXED TO 165. Spend your money wisely people. After 2080ti. Nvidia got even more greedy and now making class action lawsuit claims with the 50 series. using AI. I will never buy green again.
Yep
I like MSI
noiceeee