Comparison: Alder vs Ash - Fender Custom Shop ´68 ´69 Stratocaster

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  • Comparison between two Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster.
    Which do you like more?
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    Fender Custom Shop ´68 Heavy Relic Stratocaster Black - Maple Neck & Fretboard / Ash Body -
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  • @Jamboljazz
    @Jamboljazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    For me ... alder is great

    • @Sugiono666
      @Sugiono666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tetep lah alder fer,....

  • @scotttrezak674
    @scotttrezak674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The ash shines on the clean "in between" positions. So much definition in the bottom and top

  • @jongonzalez6917
    @jongonzalez6917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow! I have two swamp ash strat-styled guitars, and I was sure I’d prefer the swamp ash tone in this video....I did not. The alder sounds much fuller and I like it! Great job! Great vid!

    • @davolthe1261
      @davolthe1261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bcs these are two different guitars folks, woods in electric guitars surely can't make this much difference, it's just different electronics or different amp settings, seriously there is no way, usually woodtone difference is VERY minimal especially between these two woods, just watch comparisons with same electronics for genuine test.

    • @1mihayes
      @1mihayes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Davolthe I totally agree with you on this. It’s way more than just the woods. Ash generally is preferred by most. This seems to be more about the pickups and guitars than the body woods.

    • @MrEpic-lf4gn
      @MrEpic-lf4gn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1mihayes You are both idiots.

    • @kvtar
      @kvtar ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny how you may like the way a certain wood sounds when you play it, but hate it when someone else does. I slightly prefer swamp ash on most of the samples, but keep in mind the sound your HANDS make too.

    • @lousekoya1803
      @lousekoya1803 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too !

  • @roadtonever
    @roadtonever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Alder for leads, ash for rhythm.

  • @skgate
    @skgate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dont forget that theres two different types of Ash that Fender uses, Swamp Ash which is lighter and Northern Ash which is heavy.. An alder body would weigh about 7.5lbs, swamp ash would be around 6.8lbs and the northern ash can be 10lbs. I believe that would make a difference. My 10lb ash Vintera strat sounds like no other strat ive heard so far

    • @akkiakki79
      @akkiakki79 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am agree.you right..

  • @alexiep7972
    @alexiep7972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:35 neck and middle then back to neck, very smooth transition, hats off

  • @randallscott6
    @randallscott6 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man...this guy is a rocker! Got the tattoos too !

  • @marcellofreitas7356
    @marcellofreitas7356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a Mexican Fender of alder with maple fingerboard and I love it more and more every day. But ash has great tone too.

  • @brownerthanu
    @brownerthanu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unless all the parts are swapped it hard to attribute it solely to the body, due to variation in the electronics. Pots, pickups, capacitors. They all vary within tolerance.

  • @Relicsun
    @Relicsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My fender custom shop 62 Strat is ash and it’s sounds amazing!

  • @alexiep7972
    @alexiep7972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    like the way the guy plays with the switch, 0:33 smooth and rapid transition from bridge to neck

  • @soofitnsexy
    @soofitnsexy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    subtle but it is different same guitar same pickups similar weight but their is a depth and a touch more magic in the alder body...IN THIS CASE

  • @JudeSkyi
    @JudeSkyi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Superb playing brother! That second riff is straight heat! 🔥

  • @andrewsantos3283
    @andrewsantos3283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This help me decide on what tonewood i will use for my custom strat build. I will go with alder.

  • @Tangent_Frank
    @Tangent_Frank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    alder; punchy and crystal clear. ash; warmer and a little more rolled off. alder would be really nice with a sort of bridge position shreddy thing while i think ash would be perfect for just a neck humbucker jazz type thing

  • @michaelwilson8267
    @michaelwilson8267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ash robs it of something magic

    • @AndyNyle
      @AndyNyle ปีที่แล้ว

      it’s grainier sound and sometimes loses high end

  • @jorgea3507
    @jorgea3507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Alder for me, had clarity in the notes. The Ash sounded compressed an lifeless. I have an old alder love it. I did however buy the elite, and after 4 months of live shows sold it. This video confirmed any second doubts...great riffs!!

  • @bozopennywize
    @bozopennywize 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Ash has fuller tone but Alder has more overtones.

    • @nsc217
      @nsc217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the difference? The alder sounds like it has more high end to me… Ash is a bit dull

  • @jonduke3919
    @jonduke3919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have both the ash sounds darker an duller old school that’s why I like them. I still think mohogony sounds the best.

  • @HiromiMaruyama
    @HiromiMaruyama หลายเดือนก่อน

    My ear is not good enough to tell difference though I can tell based on your great video. I would rather care for the neck and pickups.

  • @mapleash9586
    @mapleash9586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ash👍

  • @detodounpokoOficial
    @detodounpokoOficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aurez-vous une vidéo jouant les guitares sans les connecter ?

  • @gilovadya3607
    @gilovadya3607 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful man! great test

  • @i.r.theofficial
    @i.r.theofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do not see the difference on overdrive. On a clean - barely noticeable. Thanks for comparing!

  • @davidrocha1419
    @davidrocha1419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im very impressed, the Alder sounds the best in this video and has that Hendrix vibe in the neck pickup position 👍

    • @sbspulse9582
      @sbspulse9582 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hendrix's Strat Blackmoor's are from Ash.

  • @APaclin
    @APaclin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In some cases alder and some ash sound better, in some the same. But actually it doesn't matter how they sound by themselves, what matter is how it sits in the mix :)

  • @dennisfrank1974
    @dennisfrank1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the black one

  • @rrjf432
    @rrjf432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Depends but I'd say Ash... every ash guitar has a different and inconsistent sound. Alder every guitar has a similar sound. Alder 9 out of 10 guitars are good. Ash is like 3 to 4 out of 10 are amazing and great. But those 3 out of 4 will destroy any alder guitar. 😢

    • @topografer
      @topografer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that about ash, that it's too inconsistent. I don't know if it's true, I guess when a lot of people say it, it has to be. Alder on the other hand is indeed the most consistent of woods, and to my ears great sounding too.

  • @topografer
    @topografer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to say that the fingerboard material does a way larger difference to my ears
    Maybe I am wrong I don't know

  • @assaulturk
    @assaulturk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    any difference? I don't know if its psychologic or not but I always prefer alder.

  • @benherdsant426
    @benherdsant426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Swamp ash is great. I have both guitars ( alder and ash - in maple ) captation alnico V and ceramic ...the bright on ash is wonderful, but to midles is better play with alder... 🤷🏼‍♂️😰🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @chadnedohin
    @chadnedohin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was surprised. I was expecting ash to win... but the alder won every time. Alder for me.

  • @blusinbarnesify
    @blusinbarnesify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For One I like everything Raw! No Paint. Or Clear Coats! Let it Hum Vib n Feedback n Breath. With Sweat n Playing the wood will Dye to your own natural color. Now saying Alder is Darker more residence with a Maple neck will make it a bit treble. N Ash is Warm with with a Swampy Tone. Useing Rosewood Necks will always give you more of a Warmer Feeling. Not as Brite. That's just how I hear it if I'm not tone deaf lol. I got 40 years of experience of building n tearing apart Strats n Guitars n I'm no expert. N still looking for that special one that I will say I found Her..

  • @snipperacoustics
    @snipperacoustics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the sparkle on clean sound of the ash body. The Alder has more meat on mid frequencies and possibly better for heavier distorted sound but for just clean or slightly overdriven sound you get that authentic american sound with the ash.

  • @raditya3357
    @raditya3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Swamp ash has a great tone

  • @jimo1294
    @jimo1294 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are all things equal except body wood? Same pickups, same p/u heights? Same string brand? If so, the alder sounds better.

  • @detodounpokoOficial
    @detodounpokoOficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    friend are the same pickups? on the 2 guitars?

  • @lestar7555
    @lestar7555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ash sound is amazing

  • @Morte_Deus
    @Morte_Deus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm more impressed with that amp sounds to be honest, those kempers are the shit.

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still think a well-miced tube amp is better, but with the modelers or profilers you can get good results quickly and easily.

    • @Morte_Deus
      @Morte_Deus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeMarkwitz ' I agree, i sold my kemper and went back to tube amps, kemper is great for what it is but i got tired of the constant tweaking.

  • @canaldoguetoberra
    @canaldoguetoberra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I will name my son Alder

    • @The11eleven
      @The11eleven 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And your daughter

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@The11eleven Mahogany

  • @raditya3357
    @raditya3357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alder has a bright tone, ash has a warm tone. Alder for lead and ash for chord

  • @evks82
    @evks82 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of pickup sounds great i want to change my yosemite pickups?

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you like the Sounds in this Video, try the Fender '69 Custom Shop Single Coils.

  • @hakarl_
    @hakarl_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool tones! Curious what pickups you have in them, especially bridge in the alder one.

  • @akac7546
    @akac7546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ash like srv

  • @user-ts8bl3qe5t
    @user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! The noth have same pickups? I have feeling that alder strat have little bit more output

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi,
      both guitars definitely have Fender ´69 Custom Shop Single Coils. The alder strat simply has a bit more mids. You can already hear that acoustically.

    • @user-ts8bl3qe5t
      @user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeMarkwitz thanks for answer, which one you prefer?

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-ts8bl3qe5t It always depends on what you want to play. Clean the ash and with gain the alder. In the meantime I have sold the ash.

  • @robsmith6443
    @robsmith6443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, as a tonewood that alder was a great classic sound, but I didn't love the Ash...I came here because I'm looking at a guitar with an Ash fretboard though. IME that does affect tone but differently, and also affects feel...I have no experience with an Ash board though.

  • @Necca_UK
    @Necca_UK 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ash is much better in all versions. More clarity, more ringing, more
    Overtone harmonics.

  • @nickrook5519
    @nickrook5519 ปีที่แล้ว

    to my ear it’s hard to compare because the sunburst sounds like ‘69 custom shop p/u’s and the other ‘50s p/u’s

  • @chocolatecookie8571
    @chocolatecookie8571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if the comparison is guitar scientific enough but I prefer the ash sound. The best comparison video’s are from Warmoth because they use everything excactly the same except for that one thing they want to compare

  • @PulauSwan
    @PulauSwan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't see how this comparison is credible, what is incredible: is that some people believe it is.

  • @ov-studios
    @ov-studios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alder for me

  • @jonathanrossmusic2509
    @jonathanrossmusic2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see what you did with the toggle switch! Very slick. Great video !

  • @tricolor6184
    @tricolor6184 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which WOOD does the guitar get heavier ???

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I already had a lot of Ash Guitars in my hand, which were either very heavy (over 4kg) or quite light. (2.8 - 3.3kg) The Alder Strats were mostly between 3.3 - 3.7kg

    • @tricolor6184
      @tricolor6184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok.... THANK

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tricolor6184 My pleasure

  • @michaelinglis8516
    @michaelinglis8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those strat pups handle higher gain(higher gain for a strat, think heavier gain from a TS9) really well but also have great spank and openness when clean. I'm building a telecaster now but next I'll probably build a strat. Are the pickups in this video the ones the fender custom shop used or aftermarket? Whatever they are I'm really digging them!
    I liked the Alder more but I'm not listening through my studio monitors or monitoring headphones, just my phone. I'll have to listen again later when I'm at my computer.

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite Strat Single Coils. These are the right '69 from the Custom Shop.

    • @michaelinglis8516
      @michaelinglis8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeMarkwitz I can certainly see why they are your favorite. Again, they sound excellent. Thanks for the info!

  • @obmen_veshei
    @obmen_veshei ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash❤

  • @berndkoelbl3852
    @berndkoelbl3852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mike ! Maybe you could show us this comparison with clean and light distorted sounds ?

    • @adrianhjordan1981
      @adrianhjordan1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you watch the whole video? He does

    • @pedroadabar5706
      @pedroadabar5706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adrianhjordan1981 perhaps he meant with some crunch, this is, some overdrive, no distortion. That sound is always very interesting to listen to.

  • @abgm8019
    @abgm8019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is those guitars has same pickups ?

  • @Mariduano
    @Mariduano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need both

  • @2216sammy
    @2216sammy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash all the way especially for lead tones.

  • @Jijo-tt4mb
    @Jijo-tt4mb ปีที่แล้ว

    ASH 😍

  • @pedroadabar5706
    @pedroadabar5706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMAO I find alder more subtile, clean, defined, even sweet, and the lows are more perceptible as if the middles were weaker than in ash. The Vintera 50s strato MN has that body in the Sonic Blue (SB) colour, and I do love her.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. I'm finding that my ash guitars need a pickup with more mids. I like the snap of ash, and the scoop, but it needs the right pup.

  • @davidsugitanoto4708
    @davidsugitanoto4708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash very bright clean
    Alder more warm like mahogany

  • @mahindrajairam3635
    @mahindrajairam3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its all about the fingers and who plays the guitar.

  • @yuliasatyawarman4389
    @yuliasatyawarman4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alder for strat, ash for tele

  • @user-pl1hj8bn8z
    @user-pl1hj8bn8z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to hear alder and ash top

  • @igor309v
    @igor309v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ash

  • @tonefreak3403
    @tonefreak3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder body for me 100%

  • @vidmohit4684
    @vidmohit4684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder sounds much more pleasing to me.

  • @branislavmandic8122
    @branislavmandic8122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ash more for tele alder for strat.

  • @agusriyanto7579
    @agusriyanto7579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder is the best !!!

  • @DiosDragon1111
    @DiosDragon1111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alder
    Swamp ash is better than ash i guess

  • @nsc217
    @nsc217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clean
    Alder 1:11
    Ash 1:35

  • @topografer
    @topografer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get the feels that alter sounds woodier which is not necesarily good on electrics

  • @hrshorty6676
    @hrshorty6676 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I hate about this is you need both ☺️

  • @ClaudioMartella
    @ClaudioMartella 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With two different guitars you are hardly testing the body wood

  • @Theyrewrong827
    @Theyrewrong827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    alder seems a hint more dynamic, but different ears....

  • @tb90hm
    @tb90hm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think alder is better for strat with single coils!

  • @DC180
    @DC180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well ashwood is done!

  • @desertedvoltron
    @desertedvoltron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    alder rhythm: 1:10
    ash rhythm: 1:34

  • @teomankarasimsek1756
    @teomankarasimsek1756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we are listening distortion and artifacts, not the wood.

  • @tommyharrisjr7338
    @tommyharrisjr7338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash is the winner 4 me.

  • @zaldum386
    @zaldum386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note to my future Self: Ash all the way

  • @BobK5
    @BobK5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They both look very scruffy to me and not much to shout about in the tone department either, might as well buy a new one 🤓

  • @Ulloy777
    @Ulloy777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash more twangy?

    • @MikeMarkwitz
      @MikeMarkwitz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see it that way too.

  • @reneotten7376
    @reneotten7376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder for gain, swamp for clean.

  • @tbone786
    @tbone786 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ash sounds like a 24 fret alder!

  • @AndyNyle
    @AndyNyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ash for clean alder for dirty

  • @boodeeish
    @boodeeish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    alder bright
    ash warm

  • @parabot2
    @parabot2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Each is Unigue in it's own way , and we have tone knobs on the guitar and amp to pull the tone we are after .

  • @oficinadomarcheto
    @oficinadomarcheto ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash is quiter and sweet and alder more screamer

  • @ronniethomas6335
    @ronniethomas6335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drop a humbucker in the ash one and it becomes Frankenstein.

  • @fusoperso
    @fusoperso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash win

  • @316diag
    @316diag 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    caramel vs. butterscotch

  • @bryanhatch6688
    @bryanhatch6688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Differences are miniscule at best. Strings, pots, windings in the pups alone could account

  • @kilgoretrout321
    @kilgoretrout321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash just sounds better to me

  • @amotsfriedman6945
    @amotsfriedman6945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alder sound is much better when you use a lot of distortion.
    Because it does not have many frequencies that are too high.
    I have two guitars of this kind regarding Ash I do not like. Sounds colder and painful in high notes. It does not matter that it has more bottom. With a good guitar amp like Friedman you can get enough bottom. But Ash does not allow to get rid of the high tone no matter what you do.

  • @zemlidrakona2915
    @zemlidrakona2915 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes zero difference. If you do hear any difference it has nothing to do with the body wood.

  • @Ragnar-Viking
    @Ragnar-Viking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash is more chimey

  • @user-py4kl6ez4k
    @user-py4kl6ez4k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    よく見たらアルダーがリバースヘッドじゃないか...比較になんないよ

  • @zdsrtgnzetmyet
    @zdsrtgnzetmyet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:12 1:35