Time to Say Goodbye to My Yamaha Tenere 700...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2024
- I have thoroughly enjoyed my time with my 2022 Yamaha Tenere 700, but the time has come to let it go. I'm not excited about the prospect of selling my Tenere, but as a motorcycle reviewer, I have to make room in the garage for the next bike I will be testing long term and reviewing. But before I say goodbye to the Tenere, let's talk about what I like about the T7 and what I haven't enjoyed as well as how my philosophy of riding ADV bikes has shifted in the last year or so.
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I just wanted to thank you for the Tenere content. You helped convince me to buy one for myself, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
I'm happy to hear it!
NO
Thanks for the content. I’m moving into ADV bikes from mx. Got my options down to the Tenere or KTM 890 adventure r. Great content all around and we still like camping videos despite what the algorithm says!!
@@robertryan1965go with the KTM! I bought the NORDEN 901 expedition and absolutely love it. It does feel a little heavy to me but when you ride it for long periods on the street you wont regret it.
@@Mildredpotka yes
Very true comment!! “Treat my big adv bikes as touring bikes that I can tackle interesting stuff when I get where I’m going!”
Man, I would have a hard time selling my Tenere. It’s such a great bike. I’ve ridden and owned a lot of bikes and it’s just one of those machines that is more than the sum of its parts.
3rd year rider 6'3, 350 and I just keep going slow on my TW200. I love how easy it does everything and I rarely get scared . the tractions badass and I know no better so for me in rural Texas I use it to shop and shoot and run errands . I love how basic it is. Sometimes I want a Roadking bad but can I go down by the river on one , or across it? buy some basic bike and be safe. I got like 4000 miles on in under 55.
Where are you at in Texas? Have you ever been to Barnwell Mountain in Gilmer?
I’ve been riding for many years and I still ripping my TTR-125. It’s small enough to be fun and not get away from you so you can just rip the shit out of the throttle and it doesn’t really get away from you and still big enough to rip around pretty good. It’s not spectacular but that’s why I love it.
i am outside san antonio@@marcochavanne
I’ve been looking for one in decent shape with low miles, but everyone is charging new TW200 prices for older units with a few thou on the clock.
Yea there super fun@@bravofighter
Man I’ve been looking at the T7 for a long time. Luckily I work at a Yamaha and Husky dealer so I’ve got several miles on and off-road between the T7 and Norden (including the Expedition). I had a 2017 Super Tenere which would go most places I wanted to take it but some of the rough stuff was difficult. It was great on the street and highway but I’ve been doing more off-road riding lately. Unfortunately as of three weeks ago and after putting 31,000 miles on my Tenere I had a truck pull out right in front of me giving me nowhere to go and no room to stop. Needless to say the bike was totaled along with two broken forearms and a punctured lung. So I’ve had a lot of extra time for TH-cam which is how I discovered your Channel. Your videos have re-confirmed that the T7 is the bike I want and I will be getting one when I’m healed up. I appreciate your honest reviews and you gained another subscriber.
Hey whats a good bike similar to this on but better for highway riding. Im 6'5
@@vivahernando1 I would look into the Honda Transalp
I bought a Transalp, in part thanks to you and I love it.
I appreciate your common sense and down to earth reviews. So....please stay with bikes that MEAN something to you whether for reviews or to keep.
Exactly that. @DorkintheRoad you give us better content by following what resonates with you and taking us with you. Don't second guess what others want too much, it'll get formulaic and dull. That said I'm all for a bias to bikes that are more plausible aspirations for the typical person's budget, and I bet your demographic leans that way.
Couldn't agree more about the shift to lighter bikes rather than ADV bikes for harder terrain. I recently gave up my Tiger 800xc for an XR650L
Man what a tall bike that xr650
Dual sports for life!
Your initial purchase of the T7 was what brought me to your channel. That said, I understand why you are making the choice you are, though it is sad to see it go. On your content I do prefer the more off road variant videos as that’s where my personal interest lies, but you catering to a broader audience also makes good business sense. I would rather see you succeed even if I watch less of your content, because when you do have the content I like, you do it well.
Sad day. That being said I’ve been following you for a while. Your the reason I purchased the 500x last year, as well as the reason I recently upgraded to a 24 t7 (while also was considering the new trans alp). Your content is a good example for an everyday rider with a detailed tear down of each bikes pros and cons.
Thank you for the Exit interview on the Tenere. Good for you, we all make a living. Looking forward to the next bike!
A refreshing review and perspective on the practicalities of living with a bike that you've had long term. Appreciate your honesty and approach to what the bike means to you in context of what you've done and would like to do moving forward.. great review and content...keep up the good works from down under in Oz!
I bought a full set of MSR gear because of your channel. Been great so far, and I've tested it thoroughly. I went through your links so I feel better about supporting the channels I enjoy and trust. Carry on Sir!
The T7 content got me watching your channel. Sad to see it go, but looking forward to what’s next.
As always, super great content. I’m sure the new Owner from Cali Will enjoy his new bike. Looking forward to your new content, hopefully on that hot rod 790 KTM that had you laughing all the way down the road. Anyways, be safe out there and enjoy life to the fullest.
Good call leaving the heavier bikes for street. I agree with dualsports for more offroad. We ain't gettin' any younger!!😂
The age thing and the T7 being big top heavy beast is exactly why I have very little desire to ride my T7 now.
I bought a ktm 690 enduro about 2 weeks ago as my first bike. Loving it so far! Was looking at a few different bikes including the tenere and your channel and others have been helpful for me in making a decision
Just came home, from two weeks in the PNW. Massive props to you riding in that nasty weather.
A light drizzle ?
Sad to see it go but thanks for the honesty
Sadly, I am pretty sure I'm going to sell my T7 too. You hit the nail on the head with your logic: Doing more difficult stuff on a "dual sport" bikes and using your ADV bikes as more of a touring bike. Also the part about various people breaking bones during your rides last year, plus me breaking my wrist last May makes me skittish about riding my T7 on a BDR now. I'm just not terribly interested in a big heavy bike on terrain that tests my limit. WOW, I basically said exactly what you said!
The top heaviness of my T7 scares me now. It is far too heavy for me to pick up by myself. I don't want to break myself while riding it. Being broke down with my arm in a cast last June, July and part of August was NO FUN AT ALL.
8:45 Just like you, FLEET REDUCTION is part of my reasoning too!
Over the last 5 months or so, I've been spending a lot of time rethinking the type of riding I will do moving forward. The T7 isn't in that "new agenda".
My DRZ and KTM fit the revised agenda much better. I can totally do the WA or ID BDR on my DRZ. Depending on which part of the IDBDR I want to start on, I could easily ride the DRZ 1.5 - 2 hours to get on the route. For the WABDR, I would set up a base camp at a friend's house near Plain, WA and be on the WABDR in short order.
I've been spending a lot of time over the winter doing major maintenance and a few upgrades on my ancient DRZ. It is plenty for a BDR ride that I may do.
Remember all that talk I had about selling my KTM last year and the year before under my Delta Bravo TH-cam name? LOL.
Now I'm likely going to keep it for mild trail riding on trails I've ridden before, because I know they are easy and tame.
I haven't even broke 1000 miles on my T7 yet. It also hasn't been fully outfitted with all the Farkle I bought for it. I still have a box of parts that are waiting to get installed. 😞
You would love a 690/701/700.
Yeah, my DRZ is about as heavy as I would want to go for that BDR.
What an amazing bike, certainly worthy of its reputation as a capable backcountry adventure bike. I can’t wait to see what the next bike will be, I literally dropped a video mid-play when I saw this was next in my feed.
Great perspective. There's a T7 in my garage that isn't going anywhere, but i have given up on trying to make it a dual sport. It's just not. A suggestion for content: there is a South African company called Turkana that builds luggage for dual sport and adventure motorcycles that has recently become available here in the states. They have a rackless setup called the Madmule. Their stuff looks legit, but not alot of comprehensive reviews to go on. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
I use their products on my T7. Excellent quality, very stable and strong. Once you have fitted the mounting straps you can (with a little effort) change the pannier bags to different sizes to suit your trip.
I’m thinking the same thing. I’m building out my Transalp, for use on long trips and light off-road detours, but using my crf250l for shorter excursions, and more challenging terrain, or on a hitch rack.
Unlike you, I’ve been a tarmac only rider, and still learning off-road/gravel skills.
But the philosophy is the same.
Thanks Ben for all of your reviews about the T-7. It’s sad that she has to go but it’s understandable. I’m going to put another 10k miles on my T7 while I run up and down the Baja Peninsula. She’s not perfect but damn she’s reliable, easy to work on and has made a better off-road rider. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work!
Great machine thanks for all the content
I agree with dual sports being the right choice for harder off road adventures. I honestly think manufacturers have given a false sense of what adventure bikes are actually for by getting pro riders to ride a heavily modified version of the bikes in cool looking advertisements. In reality adv bikes are designed to take you around the world and be capable of crossing multiple types of terrain. They're not dirt bikes so why try and ride them like one.
I'm on the same page as you, and others, about serious off roading heavy, multi-cylinder ADV bikes. Going forward, for me it will be a dual sport bike for multi-day ADV style riding. I'm currently making some of the minor changes needed to make my KTM 500EXC into a more ADV focused bike. That said, I would love to spend a day on a T7, so I do envy you for that ability. Keep up the great work Ben! Those of us that can't change bikes routinely get to live vicariously through your adventures. IMHO, you and Ian are top of the heap for MC content I enjoy.
Thank you very much. I appreciate the compliment!
A KTM 500 EXC "adv" bike sounds 100% right! Wish you could post pics of your mods!!
@@jkmarshall3553 There's a bunch of great vids on KTM 500 ADV conversions from somewhat budget to over the top expensive. Mine is much the same as some of the more budget builds. There's some very inspirational riders on TH-cam doing great things on a KTM 500 and they're my inspiration.
Congrats on the 790, I’m looking forward to that for the exact reasons you mentioned
I was one of the one's that liked the Norden content but looking forward to your time on the 790.
It is a sweet bike. Great job on the content!
Any chance of you looking at the apprilia tuareg?
Can’t wait for the next bike!
I agree. Thanks man. Dig your videos.
Just came across your channel after learning that Honda came out with the transalp and after watching your video i believe the transalp is perfect for my needs. Iv got a rebel 500 and keep doing things on it, that cruisers shouldnt do (thankfully i havent dinged or scratched it at all!) haha. But i feel the transalp is going to be a great upgrade. Also im definitely going to be subscribing because you are the same height, build, and short in seam height as me lol. So i want to see what i can look forward too or problems i might run into
All those things you mention about being top heavy and the awkwardness of not being able to put your feet down well, is how I felt riding my 2016 Versys 650 lol. Everything you described was spot on to that experience.
You rock - nobody could conclude that you don't love the bike - and the extent to which you endeavored to make that clear . . . was pretty funny. Thanks again.
I still would love a Tenere. But, I hear you. I went out and bought a big ol air cooled DR650 put some aftermarket parts on it and I have to admit that I couldn’t stop riding it yesterday. I think I’ll keep it forever. Ride on brotha! 😎
That’s a great bike.
The DR650 is a legend. Cogent Suspension and a Seat Concepts seat, and you're ready for around the world. Many people just don't understand how good it is.
@@jonwoodworker I really love it. Recent video on my channel from yesterday. I need to still do suspension, exhaust and carb work. I am really happy with my purchase. Easy to work on reliable and does what I want to do.
@majorlee1 Nice channel, I see you have some other legendary machines, I loved my CR250R. On the DR, do the suspension first. The LexxMX pipe, jet kit and airbox mod does wake it up, but the cogent stuff transforms it. I put the TST Industries turn signal kit on mine, with the DR200 brake light and a new front fender...wow...it looks so much better.
@@jonwoodworker awesome! Thanks for the tips! Definitely suspension is next 👍I love Hondas. I have 89 CR500s too that are my collectors bikes. I was going to get the XR650 but got a deal on the DR and I have a DRZ400 so I figured another Suzuki would be cool!
Sad to see it go (I have a soft spot for that motor) but completely makes sense. I did something kinda similar when I picked up my DRZ400S a few years back to get into dirt riding from only street riding. After my time on the DRZ400, I found I really like the tight single track trails, which it can do, but man does it suck to have to pick it up or fall over just because I can't get both feet down...So I picked up a cheap 250cc dirtbike for Snotgun messing around but keeping the DRZ for woods and other ADV riding..
Gidday Ben, thanks for the many hours of manly T7 content. I’m awaiting delivery of the Himalayan 450 to replace my trusty but gutless 411. My guess is you will testing the 450 before the year is out. Cheers.
I’ve got a Desert X and a Honda 250 Rally. I’m feeling the same way these days. I use the Honda for off road as it’s light, fun and safer and the Ducati for longer trips and road rides
My 250 rally terrorizes these city street just fine , it's not just for offroad .
I'm old, heavy, and once road motorcycles fifty years ago. I've recently become interested in motorcycles again because a younger friend of mine is buying a new 2024 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport at a very good price. My eye is drawn to the 2024 NX500, and while that bike has made many improvements with electronics over the CB500X, it still has the same 12 year old engine. Maybe having a reliable engine design that's somewhat energy efficient, easy to maintain, and will keep running for many years to come should be a good thing, but having extra horsepower can only be a good thing when it comes to long distance travel, maybe. The Tiger 850 Sport might be worth looking at.
Good vid they come and go smart to do that. Keep one or two maybe is all
I am looking forward to your purchase of the 790 adventure you rode the other day.
So Transalp, what about the Norden for freeway capable/comfy? That's what Im leaning towards as my daily commuter. Great content as always, thanks!
In a way I got lucky. I had my eyes set on buying a T7 for years and I never came across one in the wild. The first week of this past November I saw my local dealer’s website update with a Transalp. I bought it before it was even out of the crate and have been really enjoying it. I am impressed at how well the Transalp performs off-road when you drop the air pressure, but I have a DRZ400S for when I really want to go have fun exploring.
Just got back from my first rally in Big Bend on my KTM890R and a separated shoulder (would've been worse without my Leatt 5.5 underneath Klim gear). I grew up on dirt, then after 50 years on road bikes I wanted the BDR adventure marketing and all. Took the 2 day BMW off road course on a GS and bought a bunch of farkles and gear. Interestingly, one of my younger companions on the trip with an older DR650 seemed to be having more fun and did not fall down at all. Sure, my skills need improving and they will, but your rationale has got me rethinking the downside of weight on loose and unforgiving rock. Thank you!
As someone who has owned the same motorcycle for 20 years and can’t get rid of it or justify owning two motorcycles, I really appreciate your tears at selling the Tenure. My condolences. I totally get it.
Would love you see you take the shiny new 790 and exclusively run 87 unleaded in it for the time you have it.
It’s interesting what guys are seeing in the 890/901 camp running regular
I can see why the T7 is moving on. With my 36" inseam everything else in the category feels cramped to me. Tall SC seat and Acerbis tank fixed the 2 main issues with the bike for me. I also have a Beta for the dual sporty stuff too. Good luck with the orange bike, I hope you find it as reliable as the T7!
My Tenere 700 is lovely, it will never let me down on a trip. Hope you find your KTM the same :)
Can't wait to see what replaces the crf450. I thought you would hold on to that a bit longer.
Thanks for another great video.
Hopefully it has over 7,500 miles on it. If not, the new CA owner won’t be able to register it at DMV. It’s getting so difficult here.
Your new focus is music to my ears, as I am also predominantly looking for a comfortable touring bike that is also able to take me on easy unpaved roads when needed, sort of 80road/20dirt type bike.
Wouldn't it be great if transformer bikes were real, we could have a Goldwing that transforms to a T7 at the flic of a switch....ah yeah, dream on 😑
A good dual sport can probably cover 70-80% of most riders' needs. Been through many bikes, big and small, and through them all, my DRZ has never left the lineup.😊
I have a DRZ and a T7. If I could only have one, I don't think I could let the Z go.
If it weren't for the single cylinder vibration and too narrow seat, I'd agree
and 5 gears , and carburetor and..@@judge831
@@judge831 If Suzuki updated with a dual counterbalanced crankshaft, a 6 speed and fuel injection, they would have a huge seller (with lesser 800's being sold though, which they may not want)
😢 didn’t see that one coming. But understand why it’s happening.
Great video
Kove 450 perhaps? You should also check out the AJP PR7.
Would love to see you get on the list for the CFMoto 450😊
Wow, what a lucky Patreon member for getting his hands on the Dork in the Roads T7! That’s like owning Elvis’s Cadillac. One of them...
If u get the other comments sorry I lost. Anyway, I am 68, living on SS. I HAVE A 22 KLR and always looking. I find I have trouble getting out of the way of fast drivers. And it is, well u know.
Anyway I thought, as most of the time, u did great job with video. Keep it up. I will no longer look at T7. NOT LIKE I CAN AFFORD ANYTHING SOON. AND NOT SURE I CAN HANDLE GETTING OUT IN HEAT, TO GO DO BDR,S
AS I HAD WISHED WHEN I GOT MY KLR.
The Kove bikes are looking mighty appealing.
Can't wait to see the ct125 build! 😅
Bummed to hear the 450 is going away, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
So glad to see the t7 go now please go out and get another klr maybe this time with abs because dork on a klr is the highest form of content
Thanks for the review of the Tenere’.
I think I’m going for the TransAlp instead.
My garage will be - heavy: Triumph Scrambler 1200XE - medium: TransAlp 750 - light: CRF300 Rally.
Yea your conclusion is what a friend and I have come to. One more road oriented bike and one offroad oriented bike is the best solution. Of course I can only afford one at the moment so i have a klx300 which is great for me.
Just got my 22 white Tenere and I am absolutely in love with it. The seat concepts is a must.
The Tank is about 30miles -40miles less range than the average in its weight class but that's a good trade off for the hp. An auxiliary gas can will fix that for me on long trips. Acerbic makes a 6.1gal tank for the T7.
Overall this is my forever SHTF bike
I literally wait for the end - "Ah, thank yooooo"!!
Would love to see a long term test on a KOVE or Tuareg 660.
I want to see a review of the new Himalayan 452.
Would love to see you do something on an Aprilla taureg 660
Many of us ADV guys that like more adventurous trails are migrating to smaller, typically single cylinder bikes. I myself have made this slow transition. Africa Twin to KTM 790 for SWM650.
It is fathomable that you choose the most popular bikes for your content but also interesting and valuable that you let us know your favorite 👍
She's a beauty, I would love to have that bike rather than my klr! How many miles on the bike?
Dork,since you are happy w transalp, what is better about it compared to crf1000? Is the weight difference the reason you like it more than crf?
I like this, the way u did it. I like what u (and Grace) or doing. O
Great videos!!
Any idea why the T7 world raid id not coming to the US?
Also, any comments on why Yamaha does not change the exhaust to a position not to be easily bend in the firs fall?
Thank you!!
I live up here in Portland Oregon I just got myself a 2024 T7 I haven't ridden it that much because the weather hasn't been cooperating, however I'm going to ride this bike similarly to how you just described it at 2:15 The T7 is gonna be like a touring bike/ day ride that can go on fire roads here and there, but if I wanna do any serious off-road then I'm gonna use my WR250R. Because of the weight difference.
dual sport/adv bike combo is the best combo if you can afford it.
I put the longest dog bones on my t7 that I could find. All the talk of how tall, and top heavy it is, were true. Lowering it 2 and a half inches was a game changer. Boosted my confidence a ton, both because my feet can reach the ground, and because it doesn't feel as top heavy. I don't think it feels any more top heavy than my 901 does. 901 is still stock hight.
Front suspension on my t7 has always sucked though. Jars my wrists on the chuch holes, and rocks.
Just my experience.
I think you are ready to try an enduro event near you. Ride a big 300cc 2 stroke. I'd watch that.
Sold mine as well because it was too top-heavy for proper off-road use. Fun bike but ultimately not good on the road and not good off it.
Absolutely agree with your desire to have the bigger bikes doing tour/less technical and lighter bikes doing dual sport. After enough "experiences" I think one gains the wisdom to learn this.
Yeah, like they were made for..duh
Thanks friend
I think you should review the AJP PR7
Missed opportunity here. Should have ran a pole for the bikes replacement and then a lottery of the folks for a small prize gloves or somthing! Just food for thought my dude. My guess Aprilla Toureg 660.
So interested in a kitted out Transalp vs *Insert Random Hated On Brand Inexpensive Offering*
Do you have a link to the riding (yellow) aux lights for the T7 or best aux lights that you recommend (price doesnt matter)
Since I ride only off road and mostly motocross now, I got a YZ250F. 229lbs wet and 40 HP. I don’t miss the street. Cars hurt when they hit you 😢
great review ...but as a creater, it is time to move on...look forward to the new steed.
Yes that's the way I'm heading, keeping my KLX400r (DRZ) for more demanding shorter rides/trips and then looking to acquire something better suited to long trips that might include some freeway, twisties on tar, dirt roads, fire trails and creek crossings included. Have put a deposit down on a Himalayan 450, hope it carries its weight well. Still my eye on a low km F800gs, it's a hard call as the Himalayan won't be here till late March, early April.
I would have sold the TA, but you are right, skill level is a factor that cannot be ignored. A T7 is a very capable motorcycle.
And you are content driven. Most of us don't depend on a youtube and sponsor paychecks.
Are you buying a mighty DR650?!?!?! Is a current TH-cam reviewer finally going to review my bike? Makes sense, you being so close to the fine folks at Procycle. That would/will be great! Cogent Dynamics suspension and Seat Concepts will be your friend. Thanks for the great content 👍
Agree with all of your points. I have a 1250 GS and a Versys 300, and I find myself having more fun offroad on the Versys than I do on the GS. That said, for blasting miles on the highway, the GS is definitely the way to go lol
...a 1200RT and a 310GS here....I can agree the 310 is actually more "FUN"....but the RT for the miles...!!!
Will you be doing an exit interview for the 450l?
If ur selling your 450L, what bike(s) are you going to take on the BDRs?
Yes weight is the very reason I am ridding a Crf300L Rally. I also own a CRF 230L witch is about 60 lb lighter that I think I will use for any narly stuff that I might be ridding.
I had the same thought this winter and bought a wr250r. Still have my Tuareg 660, but gonna do harder off-road on the wr..
800GS and WR250r my fun combo
I like those blue rims.
I would love to see the Aprillia Toureg 660 vs Transalp as your next comparison, I think those are 2 of the best ADV bikes for people who are honest about what they want from a middleweight ADV bike. If I hadn't found a Tiger 900 Rally for 10K I would probably own a Toureg 660 right now.
How’s the Tiger so far?
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve I absolutely love it. It's a pavement princess right now, I got crash bars on it. But I'm too cheap to put 60/40 tires in it till I use up the sport touring tires it came with.
I'm looking at Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires, unless I find a second set of rims on the cheap so I can have sport touring tires on 1 set of rims and some 40/60 tires in the other set.
As a veteran off roader I support this message… and thanks for calling out the littering losers.