Kenny died of cancer a year or two ago. He fought it for some time, but lost the battle in the end. He is sorely missed in our community of air gun enthusiasts. We exchanged pellets, laughs and viewpoints over the course of time. RIP Kenny. That said, I have both calibers of this gun-.22 & .177- and will be doing this trigger mod. Both rifles, in real-world numbers, have the same power range as the Hatsan Striker 1000 (x,s) rifles. I have that one too. So the power of the Striker 1000 in a rifle about 1.5lbs lighter! Good looking wood-n-steel sporters too.
OK I bought this rifle from Wal-mart for $85 and got a can of Gamo Rocket 9.6 grain pellets put a 3-12x40 AO scope on it fixed the trigger with a 5x8x2.5 bearing and it is a very accurate rifle thank you for very informative videos on how to fix these Crossmans to be great rifles
Hi There Again Kenny, As you can see, it's been two years now since we last spoke and my .177 Crosman Optimus is still going strong, even with your recommended trigger fix! My rifle has had its third spring already, which has nothing to do with the quality but rather quantity of rounds shot with it! In all, I must have put at least 12000 (twelve thousand) rounds through the barrel because I buy two tins of 500 pellets each month AND I have a Crosman 357 Magnum pistol too, which I bought soon afterwards. All Your Fault!!! When replacing the spring I also polished up the piston and cylinder to a near mirror finish and treated them with silicon grease. Similarly, I polished the trigger sheer and any other friction surfaces with my Dremel and gave them the same treatment with silicon grease. Right now, any pellet less than 7 grain will still produce a crack making it too noisy for back yard shooting, so I use H&N's Rabbit Magnum pellets which for some strange reason do very well in both my rifle and pistol. In short, my "cheap" Crosman has over time become a very refined rifle (as far as springer's go) and even the wooden stock has become glossy from use - with a somewhat darker color hue too. At twenty meters I am able to place five shots within a 1/4 inch bull which defy's some You Tuber's comments' about these rifles - and springer's in general. You are welcome to use this comment to help support your quest, which for me is always enjoyable. Regards, "Out Of Africa"
I like your idea but I would prefer to keep it "original". However, I may very well consider buying a new .22 Crosman Nitro Piston. Have a great weekend and good luck with the future elections..
I have owned this rifle .22 for 4-5 months now. I fitted a Hawke Sport 4x32 AO scope, cleaned & lubed it , broke it in with about 3500 pellets, it likes the cheap Daisy Dome pellets 14.3 grain & is accurate & hard hitting, I too would highly recommend this well made good looking gun
I just made this modification but used two rings from a chain mail diy jewelry kit. The wire was about .6 or .7 mm thick and it was just right. The trigger moves about a half inch and takes less effort. Very happy with the results! You could use any wire of the right thickness. Just wrap the wire around a rod a couple times, remove and snip your rings off.
Thank you sir. I just ordered my Crosman Optimus in .22 cal from Airgun Depot for $129.99 . It came with a FREE set of steel silhouette targets too, haha. I know this video is 10 years old so I hope you are in good health. I bought this air rifle because I wanted a rifle that could take down small game if I had to and would be easy to supply with low cost ammunition. I expressly wanted an old school springer because I do not trust these new Nitrogen filled piston driven rifles not to leak over time. I know I have had to replace the nitrogen filled cylinders that hold up the rear hatch on my 1990 Voyager minivan about every four or five years.
Great review. BTW, the GTX II trigger is an excellent upgrade and well worth the $30 cost. I added one to my Optimus, and also installed a nitro piston kit. It's very accurate with the premier domed pellets and can penetrate completely through 2 empty tin cans at 10 metres. I own more expensive air guns, but for shooting fun, the Optimus is my favorite.
Just picked up a Crosman Optimus and I'm just tickled to death with it. Best $100 I've spent in ten years! You pick it up and it feels like a Winchester Model 70 featherweight. Not a surprise since they both weigh the same. Precise and tight fitting action (except the looong pull trigger and chinzty plastic trigger guard) and really nice shoulder pad. Stock is hardwood quality but the finish isn't that great. There is an adjustment screw for the trigger pull on mine, but presumably he had it all the way out? That squirrel's gonna wish he never tore up the lawn chairs :-)
You and I think a like! I did the trigger mod on a Summit, NICE! Thanks for the video, good info. I will keep an eye out on your reviews! I believe it could do even better with a pellet it really likes. But an inch is not to shabby. Have a great new year testing those air guns! Thanks Again!
Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)
I bought my youngest son the Optimus .22cal version of this rifle for his B-day last April. Likes the 14.3gr Gamo rockets so far. Nice rifle with the same velocity range as the Hatsan Striker 1000, & Edge. But about 1.5lbs lighter. I replace the cheap rings and Centerpoint 4x32 scope it came with with spare Winchester 3-9x32 scope off my 1400cs and a Hammers 4-bolt mount. Solid rifle now! Gonna have him try the 16gr H&N hornets on small pigs. .22 air rifles have taken some good size pigs with one head shot on here.
I bought the gun used and I don't think it was Broke In. I did shoot very well with the Gamo Rocket 9.26 grain. At 20 meters (62.6ft) it shot a 1" X 1/2" group (10 shots) with a pellet not known for it's accuracy.
Hello Kenny. I followed your suggestion to the letter wrt modifying the trigger machanism with equally good results, albeit at the expense of my warranty! Then I had a mishap, whereby I accidentally set the trigger off while the gun was cocked and broke the spring! Living in South Africa, the only spring I could source was 4 3/4 inch's longer than the original, so I cut it to a just fit whist cocking.I also fashioned a very tough nylon bush as a shock-absorber for the "less than perfect cut end" to protect the spring guide at the rear of the rifle. Without a chrony I can still tell that my rifle is hitting so much harder now and accuracy at full rest with the H&N 9.26 grn Crow Magnum's is = to a dime at 20 yards! What's your take on this? Kind Regards.
Hello Ken, I want to buy this gun, i live in the Netherlands This gun is also cheap in my country! My question is , could this gun be upgraded to a nitro piston, perhaps later!??
Very pleased with my copy. Very accurate with my cheap local pellets (7.56 grains), at only about 950 FPS though. However, still plenty enough FPE to put holes in tin (not Aluminum) cans (through and through). Even the freebie scope worked for me until I decided to upgrade. I did the trigger mod (RC bearing) and am very happy with it. Once, shot a bird up in a tree, dead before it hit the ground (Never again, I swear!) I am Pinoy/ Pangalatok (he-he)
I've been hearing a lot about these crossmans and their triggers back in the day they used to have really nice triggers on their pistols and guns The nicer ones anyway like this Probably why there's a 1000 of a one eBay I'm here looking at it
I've done the bearing mod on my Optimus .177, Should I leave the 3MX10 screw there that I had installed earlier? Or is the screw now redundant and that it must be taken out Thank you.
Go to Walmart and get a gun cleaning kit and some Hoppe's No 9 gun bore solvent and gun oil. Order some "Nylon Bore Brush's online. Dip the Nylon bore brush in the solvent and run it through the bore at least 20 times. Use the cleaning patches and bore mop to clean out any residue and put a light coating of gun oil in the bore to keep it from rusting. A few drops of oil on a cleaning pellet or cleaning patch will do.
hat I did take the stalk off and all the pins also, big mistake. who would have thounght, 6 or 7 parts could be so difficult. its back together but I can't get it to stay cocked , so I can't even fire it, I'm drained, I spent 3 hours trying to figure it out , its 3 weeks old , shouldn't have messed with it , thank u for any info
How about decocking this weapon. I have the same air gun, I heard that to decock any break barrel, you bend the barrel down and pull the trigger. Mine does not allow me to pull the trigger when the barrel is back at all. Safety on or off. Is it not possible to do on this one or am I doing it wrong?
@@wehex6947 Maze Rat// my Weirauch W 35 can do that ( decock) my Webley VMX not, so this Crosman also not.....but i want one, unfortynaly here in Europe this Crosman Opti gun + scope costs almost 200 euro😆, i heard also that the scope isnt much, but i have already a good Hawkeye scope...
great vídeo chief! thanks for your time! and i would like to know the results using h&n Barracuda , field target thopy and crow mágnum pellets , you could try too using crosman premier heavy pellets or other heavier pellets like jsb , i. think you could be imperss whit the results , sorry for my bad english thanks again!!
Nice review, friend. Apparently, Crosman's claim that using other ammunition other than Crosman and Benjamin may damage gun is false? I have a bunch of Daisy ammo, but going to pick up some Gamo Rocket soon. Thanks for the tip. I just got this rifle today.
Im thinking instead of a washer you could just wrap a thin strip of electrical tape around the piece as many times as desired, any idea if that would work?
Hi! Do you know exactly the length of the barrel? Is it different from the vantage? The sites say that the optimus is 16.5 "or 42 cm and the advantage 18.89" or 48 cm. I thought the difference between them would be just ram gas. Thank you!
Unfortunately Mr. Kenny passed away due to cancer R.I.P. - his videos are still very relevant and helpful though. I purchased a Benjamin Prowler from his review, easily my most accurate break barrel
Payed $99 for mine and threw scope away ! I can hit n kill anything within its range capability without scope . Mine is accurate right out a box with no problems. One thing , thinking bout cutting some weight out of butt stock .
hi there i have crosman optimus its 495 fps model how ever i did buy a summit model spring what im wondering is is the piston in the 495 fps the same as a summit 1000 fps air gun ? I heard the 495 optimus piston has a hole in it to tune it down to a low FPS i never took it apart yet and hoping it doesnt have the hole in the piston ,,If it does what would you reccomend filling it with? Or do i have to by a summit piston too which i hope i dont have to do.any help or advise is appreciated...,,,
Your reviews are great, Thank you. I'm tossing up between this and the Ruger Air Hawk for targets and pests. Would like your opinion. I'm new to the game so I'm not confident enough to modify the trigger and don't want to buy better scope etc. So, Which rifle is best straight from the box?
I know you reviewed the (Hatsan Edge Springer .22 cal. version that was $119.99 but you should review the (Hatsan Edge Vortex).177 version that's $99.99 right now I think that's a really good deal.One of the best for under $120.00 HECK MAYBE under $140.00 check it out u will be the first to do so.
the platinum and raptors are different in weight, the platinum is 4.7 and raptors are 5.3 its heavier because of the coating on the pellet, so you would be above a bit on velocity, crosman and hatsan unlike gamo are reasonable for velocity claims, gamo for decades has been 100-150 fps over rated, they still dont get it, but i still by riffles from them anyway.
The Gamo PBA's are nothing short of Pure Crap. They should not be allowed to sell them. The 4.7's that came with the Gamo Big Cat 1400 only averaged 1154fps. The RWS Hypermax 5.2g's averaged 1303fps with that gun.
i agree, them light ones by gamo are not good, but beeman eco fts are great, and fit very well, no blow by like gamo platinums 4.7 and crosman ssp 4.0 gr pellets, if they fit loose in barrel they will always perform with very wide spread and very high deviation, some gamo riffles pellets fall practically down the barrel from being to loose.
if you can buy a hatsan 125 in .177, i have seen reviews on .22 and have done mine on .25 cal and both get 30 ft/lbs or more. i would bet hatsans claim of 1250 fps for lead would be actually more for the .177, and alloys maybe expect 1400-1500 fps or more. the gamo hunter series is another big lie by gamo to, not close to 1650, more like low end 1500, i think the hatsan 125 is the king of power for any break barrel gun in probably in all .177 .22 and .25 riffles.
buono ma dovreste mettere la ghiera sul mirino a canna perché tende a rompersi il mirino della canna fatto in plastica accurato,ma il pistone punta troppo sull alto di 5 cm quindi abbassare con lottica
Yeah I don't like that trigger blade on there the actual trigger shape I would have it replaced with one with the ones they had in the Old school vintage Walter crossman CO 2 pistols that have this look in aluminum billlet I have a bunch of different guns and they all shoot differently some have a little throw before it grabs just da tiny bit and summer harder than others they're all different but I'll different but I've never had one bother me enough to where I had to take it apart you must be a long time shooter I just adapt to it lol
What's ridiculous about the scope it looks good and that's the default scope that you get in a combo specs It aint that it's too small and cheap and not able to keep up with the rifle at long range I know I have my scope on my one going to 22 gamma mile though mild school would won the 1st original OG Springer I showed 22 slugs out of that at about a 100 yd I don't know how to make I don't have a chrono or know how to measure the foot's parentheses put now but I know it hits those metal plates just as hard as not harder than my 22LR But I use like 1823 grade Crane H and NJSB slugs and pellet slugs
Yes. I’ve had no problem with squirrels and Even large possum and medium raccoons, using .177. The crossman destroyer round is the best with it for hunting. It gives good accurate shots and lots of knockdown on hit. The destroyer or rounds that expand are key, pointed ones just pass through without much knockdown.
This weapon has a speed of 1200fps. But in Canada, airguns are locked at 495fps. This is why I no longer buy Air Rifle. It won't even break a small glass bottle. 😟
@@Kole-kx6nt You have to take a firearms course, which lasts one day. There, you will obtain: Hunter’s certificate and Firearm possession and acquisition permit. Then, you must go to the central police office, and make a request: Authorization to acquire restricted firearms. After about 1 year of waiting, if you get your card and authorization paper. For a restricted weapon, you must register with a shooting club. You go to a gunsmith to buy your weapon. You can't go out right away with your weapon. A police investigation forces you to wait a very long time. You must have a clean criminal record.
Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)
Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)
Kenny died of cancer a year or two ago. He fought it for some time, but lost the battle in the end. He is sorely missed in our community of air gun enthusiasts. We exchanged pellets, laughs and viewpoints over the course of time. RIP Kenny. That said, I have both calibers of this gun-.22 & .177- and will be doing this trigger mod. Both rifles, in real-world numbers, have the same power range as the Hatsan Striker 1000 (x,s) rifles. I have that one too. So the power of the Striker 1000 in a rifle about 1.5lbs lighter! Good looking wood-n-steel sporters too.
OK I bought this rifle from Wal-mart for $85 and got a can of Gamo Rocket 9.6 grain pellets put a 3-12x40 AO scope on it fixed the trigger with a 5x8x2.5 bearing and it is a very accurate rifle thank you for very informative videos on how to fix these Crossmans to be great rifles
Hi There Again Kenny,
As you can see, it's been two years now since we last spoke and my .177 Crosman Optimus is still going strong, even with your recommended trigger fix!
My rifle has had its third spring already, which has nothing to do with the quality but rather quantity of rounds shot with it! In all, I must have put at least 12000 (twelve thousand) rounds through the barrel because I buy two tins of 500 pellets each month AND I have a Crosman 357 Magnum pistol too, which I bought soon afterwards. All Your Fault!!!
When replacing the spring I also polished up the piston and cylinder to a near mirror finish and treated them with silicon grease. Similarly, I polished the trigger sheer and any other friction surfaces with my Dremel and gave them the same treatment with silicon grease.
Right now, any pellet less than 7 grain will still produce a crack making it too noisy for back yard shooting, so I use H&N's Rabbit Magnum pellets which for some strange reason do very well in both my rifle and pistol.
In short, my "cheap" Crosman has over time become a very refined rifle (as far as springer's go) and even the wooden stock has become glossy from use - with a somewhat darker color hue too. At twenty meters I am able to place five shots within a 1/4 inch bull which defy's some You Tuber's comments' about these rifles - and springer's in general.
You are welcome to use this comment to help support your quest, which for me is always enjoyable.
Regards,
"Out Of Africa"
You might want to try throwing a Nitro Piston in it next time. It should last 3 to 4 times longer than a metal spring.
I like your idea but I would prefer to keep it "original". However, I may very well consider buying a new .22 Crosman Nitro Piston.
Have a great weekend and good luck with the future elections..
I have owned this rifle .22 for 4-5 months now. I fitted a Hawke Sport 4x32 AO scope, cleaned & lubed it , broke it in with about 3500 pellets, it likes the cheap Daisy Dome pellets 14.3 grain & is accurate & hard hitting, I too would highly recommend this well made good looking gun
I just made this modification but used two rings from a chain mail diy jewelry kit. The wire was about .6 or .7 mm thick and it was just right. The trigger moves about a half inch and takes less effort. Very happy with the results! You could use any wire of the right thickness. Just wrap the wire around a rod a couple times, remove and snip your rings off.
Thank you sir. I just ordered my Crosman Optimus in .22 cal from Airgun Depot for $129.99 .
It came with a FREE set of steel silhouette targets too, haha.
I know this video is 10 years old so I hope you are in good health. I bought this air rifle because I wanted a rifle
that could take down small game if I had to and would be easy to supply with low cost ammunition.
I expressly wanted an old school springer because I do not trust these new Nitrogen filled piston driven rifles not to leak over time. I know I have had to replace the nitrogen filled cylinders that hold up the rear hatch on my 1990 Voyager minivan
about every four or five years.
Great review. BTW, the GTX II trigger is an excellent upgrade and well worth the $30 cost. I added one to my Optimus, and also installed a nitro piston kit. It's very accurate with the premier domed pellets and can penetrate completely through 2 empty tin cans at 10 metres. I own more expensive air guns, but for shooting fun, the Optimus is my favorite.
Can you fit a np into the Optimus cylinder? Is there a conversion kit available. Is it worth the expense? I would really like to do this to my Optimus
Just picked up a Crosman Optimus and I'm just tickled to death with it. Best $100 I've spent in ten years! You pick it up and it feels like a Winchester Model 70 featherweight. Not a surprise since they both weigh the same. Precise and tight fitting action (except the looong pull trigger and chinzty plastic trigger guard) and really nice shoulder pad. Stock is hardwood quality but the finish isn't that great. There is an adjustment screw for the trigger pull on mine, but presumably he had it all the way out? That squirrel's gonna wish he never tore up the lawn chairs :-)
I did the mod and I'm happy as a camper! Thank you Sir for all you do!
You must not know he has passed , your thanking a ghost...R I P ........
@@4486xxdawson Yes I know, now!
Changing the trigger adjustment screw for a slightly longer one (about 2 mm longer) is also a good and cheap way to improve this trigger.
You and I think a like! I did the trigger mod on a Summit, NICE! Thanks for the video, good info. I will keep an eye out on your reviews! I believe it could do even better with a pellet it really likes. But an inch is not to shabby. Have a great new year testing those air guns! Thanks Again!
RIP Kenny. We will miss you
Oooooo He passed? Awww! I just discover him!
he will surely be missed
Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)
I bought my youngest son the Optimus .22cal version of this rifle for his B-day last April. Likes the 14.3gr Gamo rockets so far. Nice rifle with the same velocity range as the Hatsan Striker 1000, & Edge. But about 1.5lbs lighter. I replace the cheap rings and Centerpoint 4x32 scope it came with with spare Winchester 3-9x32 scope off my 1400cs and a Hammers 4-bolt mount. Solid rifle now! Gonna have him try the 16gr H&N hornets on small pigs. .22 air rifles have taken some good size pigs with one head shot on here.
unionrdr How did the Hornet pellets work? Been debating buying them.
I bought the gun used and I don't think it was Broke In. I did shoot very well with the Gamo Rocket 9.26 grain. At 20 meters (62.6ft) it shot a 1" X 1/2" group (10 shots) with a pellet not known for it's accuracy.
I haven't had a chance to review a Crosman Spring Piston .22 Cal yet. The Crosman NP .22 cal is a dud for power.
Hello Kenny. I followed your suggestion to the letter wrt modifying the trigger machanism with equally good results, albeit at the expense of my warranty! Then I had a mishap, whereby I accidentally set the trigger off while the gun was cocked and broke the spring! Living in South Africa, the only spring I could source was 4 3/4 inch's longer than the original, so I cut it to a just fit whist cocking.I also fashioned a very tough nylon bush as a shock-absorber for the "less than perfect cut end" to protect the spring guide at the rear of the rifle. Without a chrony I can still tell that my rifle is hitting so much harder now and accuracy at full rest with the H&N 9.26 grn Crow Magnum's is = to a dime at 20 yards! What's your take on this?
Kind Regards.
It sounds like you did a good job.
Thanks for taking the time :)
Thanks for your answer about the box of old clothes. Next have you ever changed a spring with a gas spring.
+Larry Eyster I rebuilt a Benjamin Trail NP and a Trail NP XL.
Hello Ken, I want to buy this gun, i live in the Netherlands This gun is also cheap in my country! My question is , could this gun be upgraded to a nitro piston, perhaps later!??
+steinderbush The NP version of this gun is called the Vantage NP
Very pleased with my copy. Very accurate with my cheap local pellets (7.56 grains), at only about 950 FPS though. However, still plenty enough FPE to put holes in tin (not Aluminum) cans (through and through). Even the freebie scope worked for me until I decided to upgrade. I did the trigger mod (RC bearing) and am very happy with it. Once, shot a bird up in a tree, dead before it hit the ground (Never again, I swear!) I am Pinoy/ Pangalatok (he-he)
Can you fit a np into the Optimus cylinder? Is there a conversion kit available. Is it worth the expense? I would really like to do this to my Optimus
There are other fixes for the Crosman trigger. The easiest is probably the r.c. car bearing. Kenny has a video showing how.
I've been hearing a lot about these crossmans and their triggers back in the day they used to have really nice triggers on their pistols and guns The nicer ones anyway like this Probably why there's a 1000 of a one eBay I'm here looking at it
Hi ! And what is the maximum output of the trunk can show this model?
was the gun broken in when you did the accuraccy test? why wouldnt you use good pellets.?/ not a very good accuracy.
Miss you Kenny! R.I.P.🙏🤜🤛
Did Kenny eat a pellet? Herd he was wanting to go on his terms.
you need a very heavy pellet for these high powered air guns because the pellet becomes unstable past the sound barrier. but im sure you knew that
I've done the bearing mod on my Optimus .177, Should I leave the 3MX10 screw there that I had installed earlier? Or is the screw now redundant and that it must be taken out Thank you.
I've had mine since 2012 or 14 but ya I use the open site and it's deadly on rabbits and squirrels! Great gun .
The CO1k77X comes with a Scope
Go to Walmart and get a gun cleaning kit and some Hoppe's No 9 gun bore solvent and gun oil. Order some "Nylon Bore Brush's online. Dip the Nylon bore brush in the solvent and run it through the bore at least 20 times. Use the cleaning patches and bore mop to clean out any residue and put a light coating of gun oil in the bore to keep it from rusting. A few drops of oil on a cleaning pellet or cleaning patch will do.
hat I did take the stalk off and all the pins also, big mistake. who would have thounght, 6 or 7 parts could be so difficult. its back together but I can't get it to stay cocked , so I can't even fire it, I'm drained, I spent 3 hours trying to figure it out , its 3 weeks old , shouldn't have messed with it , thank u for any info
Try calling Ruger at (479) 646-4210 ext 7
How about decocking this weapon. I have the same air gun, I heard that to decock any break barrel, you bend the barrel down and pull the trigger. Mine does not allow me to pull the trigger when the barrel is back at all. Safety on or off. Is it not possible to do on this one or am I doing it wrong?
theres a mechanism preventing you from depressing the trigger when the barrel in broken
@@wehex6947 Maze Rat// my Weirauch W 35 can do that ( decock) my Webley VMX not, so this Crosman also not.....but i want one, unfortynaly here in Europe this Crosman Opti gun + scope costs almost 200 euro😆, i heard also that the scope isnt much, but i have already a good Hawkeye scope...
How do I properly clean the bore, if I was to get this gun?
Do you know what the difference is between the CO1K77 and the CO1K77X Optimus ?
I'm wondering if i should buy this rifle or a Ruger airhawk. I'm mostly going to be using it for indoor target shooting.
SuperEpicAwesomeness If you are going to use the scope, get the Ruger.
great vídeo chief! thanks for your time! and i would like to know the results using h&n Barracuda , field target thopy and crow mágnum pellets , you could try too using crosman premier heavy pellets or other heavier pellets like jsb , i. think you could be imperss whit the results , sorry for my bad english
thanks again!!
Nice review, friend. Apparently, Crosman's claim that using other ammunition other than Crosman and Benjamin may damage gun is false? I have a bunch of Daisy ammo, but going to pick up some Gamo Rocket soon. Thanks for the tip. I just got this rifle today.
Im thinking instead of a washer you could just wrap a thin strip of electrical tape around the piece as many times as desired, any idea if that would work?
Watch this. th-cam.com/video/EsdP4yRVPnw/w-d-xo.html
Is there easy access to the spring without taking it apart? I need to know because I was thinking if buying lube for it
How far away were you for the accuracy test? Great review and trigger fix!
What is better .177 caliber or .22?
I am looking to start air guns are Lethal and were do I shoot them
Hi! Do you know exactly the length of the barrel? Is it different from the vantage?
The sites say that the optimus is 16.5 "or 42 cm and the advantage
18.89" or 48 cm. I thought the difference between them would be just ram
gas. Thank you!
Unfortunately Mr. Kenny passed away due to cancer R.I.P.
- his videos are still very relevant and helpful though. I purchased a Benjamin Prowler from his review, easily my most accurate break barrel
I'm sorry, thanks for the return.
Payed $99 for mine and threw scope away ! I can hit n kill anything within its range capability without scope . Mine is accurate right out a box with no problems. One thing , thinking bout cutting some weight out of butt stock .
If you do (cut the butt stock), will you show us how you did it? Thank you.
hi there i have crosman optimus its 495 fps model how ever i did buy a summit model spring what im wondering is is the piston in the 495 fps the same as a summit 1000 fps air gun ?
I heard the 495 optimus piston has a hole in it to tune it down to a low FPS i never took it apart yet and hoping it doesnt have the hole in the piston ,,If it does what would you reccomend filling it with? Or do i have to by a summit piston too which i hope i dont have to do.any help or advise is appreciated...,,,
I do not know about the hole in the piston but I doubt it.
Your reviews are great, Thank you. I'm tossing up between this and the Ruger Air Hawk for targets and pests. Would like your opinion. I'm new to the game so I'm not confident enough to modify the trigger and don't want to buy better scope etc. So, Which rifle is best straight from the box?
What do you fire the pellet into when testing sound and trigger pull
+Larry Eyster A box filled with old clothing.
5/16th inch or a max of 3/8th inch.
Well laid out and informative. Sub'd
What's the feet per second on the 9.6 Gamo rocket pellets
Don't know. I sold that rifle.
Sir please tell in which country this rifle is made?
China
what weight pellets do u use for this gun ?
Eloquence Aotearoa I used Gamo Rocket 9.6 grain.
I know you reviewed the (Hatsan Edge Springer .22 cal. version that was $119.99 but you should review the (Hatsan Edge Vortex).177 version that's $99.99 right now I think that's a really good deal.One of the best for under $120.00 HECK MAYBE under $140.00 check it out u will be the first to do so.
is tr77 better?
The TR77 I reviewed had just a touch more power but over all very equal.
Hey, what is the difference between this rifle and the Crosman Vantage? They look incredibly the same!
Just a slight difference in the stock. And I mean slight.
I didn't see exactly where the washers were installed.
Here's a better look Two Ways To Fix A Crosman Trigger, The Do's and Don'ts
????? Just curious ,, what’s ridiculous about the scope ??
Like looking through a Worm Hole. It was one of Crosman's Worst.
the platinum and raptors are different in weight, the platinum is 4.7 and raptors are 5.3 its heavier because of the coating on the pellet, so you would be above a bit on velocity, crosman and hatsan unlike gamo are reasonable for velocity claims, gamo for decades has been 100-150 fps over rated, they still dont get it, but i still by riffles from them anyway.
The Gamo PBA's are nothing short of Pure Crap. They should not be allowed to sell them. The 4.7's that came with the Gamo Big Cat 1400 only averaged 1154fps. The RWS Hypermax 5.2g's averaged 1303fps with that gun.
i agree, them light ones by gamo are not good, but beeman eco fts are great, and fit very well, no blow by like gamo platinums 4.7 and crosman ssp 4.0 gr pellets, if they fit loose in barrel they will always perform with very wide spread and very high deviation, some gamo riffles pellets fall practically down the barrel from being to loose.
if you can buy a hatsan 125 in .177, i have seen reviews on .22 and have done mine on .25 cal and both get 30 ft/lbs or more. i would bet hatsans claim of 1250 fps for lead would be actually more for the .177, and alloys maybe expect 1400-1500 fps or more. the gamo hunter series is another big lie by gamo to, not close to 1650, more like low end 1500, i think the hatsan 125 is the king of power for any break barrel gun in probably in all .177 .22 and .25 riffles.
buono ma dovreste mettere la ghiera sul mirino a canna perché tende a rompersi il mirino della canna fatto in plastica accurato,ma il pistone punta troppo sull alto di 5 cm quindi abbassare con lottica
Yeah I don't like that trigger blade on there the actual trigger shape I would have it replaced with one with the ones they had in the Old school vintage Walter crossman CO 2 pistols that have this look in aluminum billlet I have a bunch of different guns and they all shoot differently some have a little throw before it grabs just da tiny bit and summer harder than others they're all different but I'll different but I've never had one bother me enough to where I had to take it apart you must be a long time shooter I just adapt to it lol
I have this in 22 950 fps and I think it's very nice
Have to rebuild it first
Ebay seller has this rifle for $69.99, n/c shipping
What's ridiculous about the scope it looks good and that's the default scope that you get in a combo specs It aint that it's too small and cheap and not able to keep up with the rifle at long range I know I have my scope on my one going to 22 gamma mile though mild school would won the 1st original OG Springer I showed 22 slugs out of that at about a 100 yd I don't know how to make I don't have a chrono or know how to measure the foot's parentheses put now but I know it hits those metal plates just as hard as not harder than my 22LR But I use like 1823 grade Crane H and NJSB slugs and pellet slugs
Look up "Update! How to Fix A Crosman Trigger For $1.50 With Parts From A Hobby Store" It's much better.
is this gun capable of taking backyard pests like squirrels and starlings
If it will take out a Rabbit, it will take out a Squirrel.
Yes. I’ve had no problem with squirrels and Even large possum and medium raccoons, using .177. The crossman destroyer round is the best with it for hunting. It gives good accurate shots and lots of knockdown on hit. The destroyer or rounds that expand are key, pointed ones just pass through without much knockdown.
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This weapon has a speed of 1200fps. But in Canada, airguns are locked at 495fps.
This is why I no longer buy Air Rifle.
It won't even break a small glass bottle. 😟
Same … some co2 rifle can be modified easily and get to 900fps so it’s worth it but he’s Canada sucks for that
In Canada you can get an airguns that shoots over 495, you just need your gun license
@@Kole-kx6nt yeah that sucks I’m not doing my licence just for a pellet gun .. xd
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You have to take a firearms course, which lasts one day.
There, you will obtain: Hunter’s certificate and Firearm possession and acquisition permit.
Then, you must go to the central police office, and make a request: Authorization to acquire restricted firearms.
After about 1 year of waiting, if you get your card and authorization paper.
For a restricted weapon, you must register with a shooting club.
You go to a gunsmith to buy your weapon.
You can't go out right away with your weapon. A police investigation forces you to wait a very long time.
You must have a clean criminal record.
i have no idea what you did to the trigger because of the terrible camerawork!!!!!!
No.
Man i would make a million bet that you r an american!
To all viewers, Kenny passed away some months ago, from cancer.
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Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)
Hello Kenny, I loved your review & found it to be very informative. I bought a new Crosman just over a week ago (re youre review) during which time I've already put some 400 rounds through the barrel! It appears that Crosman have rectified the trigger issue referred to by you as mine is a two stage adjustable which I've set to your recommended 1/4 inch. For now I am using $5.00 for 500 pellets and already achieving a 1/2 inch grouping @ 30 yrds. Regards, Kevin (from South Africa)