Wire Flooring for Rabbits - The TRUTH (Tips for the best rabbit cage flooring)

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  • @Mandy302
    @Mandy302 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video. Very informative. I love that you make most your videos in the barn or outside. Hearing the rain falling on the barn roof, an occasional bunny thump, the chickens cackling and an occasional rooster crow. The real life sounds of a true homesteader and I love it!! Thank you for being authentically real!!

  • @kaitlynkaczka8869
    @kaitlynkaczka8869 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I breed Rex and keep all of mine on wire bottoms. I give them resting mats or a hide box to lay on top of. It comes down to genetics for sure. The proper Rex coat is super dense and is not too soft. Having the density and making sure the fur had proper texture will help prevent sore hocks.

  • @stitchinginthesticks2719
    @stitchinginthesticks2719 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thank you for being brave enough to educate on wire flooring!!! I agree with everything you have said. It's a touchy subject as so many people are against wire flooring, maybe this video will help show them that rabbits can be comfortable, happy, and healthy, (in many cases healthier) on PROPER wire. 😊

  • @BlessedWithPets
    @BlessedWithPets ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I raise mini Rex, Holland lops, and lionheads and I’ve previously tried solid bottom flooring before and all i gotta say is just don’t. If you have just one pet rabbit sure I suggest you give them some space in your house let them be your friend and be happy and focus on that one rabbit, I wouldn’t put it outside by itself unless it had another rabbit to socialize with. But when I had my rabbits on solid floor I dealt with fungal infections, a loss of the majority of the fur on my bucks hind end from sitting in his own pee, sore hocks, stained fur, it was just horrible! But as soon as I switched them back to wire flooring, all my problems went away. They were staying clean, fur grew back, no more sore hocks, and my rabbits were overall just healthier. So all I gotta say is don’t listen to all the anti breeder, adopt don’t shop people who just believe what they read on the internet. Listen to people like Tiffany who actually know what they are talking about and have experience with rabbits. That being said I wish you all the best of luck however you keep your rabbits. God bless y’all! 🤍🥰

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Don’t listen to those people! Wire does not hurt their feet !!

    • @eminwonderland
      @eminwonderland ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessss this comment!! So many people have cried cruelty about the wire flooring in my videos, and it's tiring to explain to those who don't understand or research.

    • @BlessedWithPets
      @BlessedWithPets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eminwonderlandI know! The pet community is crazy these days

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlessedWithPetsyeah they blame everyone and call them an animal abuser if they don’t do it their exact way and it’s sad 😢

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlessedWithPetsthey think that housing rabbits outdoors is deadly and dangerous when it is the opposite!
      rabbits actually prefer outside and they are healthier outdoors than indoors.
      I’ve NEVER had a rabbit who has liked indoors every one of them that I’ve had hated indoors!
      Even my new rabbit hates inside!

  • @LuluBearBuns
    @LuluBearBuns ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I have rexes, mini rexes, lionheads, Netherland dwarfs ,holland lops, dutches ,and mixed breeds i breed and they all do great on wire bottom also Lennon the bunny is one of my least favorite TH-camrs she says the opposite of everything you say
    Edit: blow this up so she sees it

    • @sunflowerkid6305
      @sunflowerkid6305 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I watch Lennon The Bunny also. I believe she has some good information and I enjoy her rabbit house make overs and stuff but she is VERY judgey and rude to some people. Same with Sincerely, Cinnabun and 101 Rabbits.

    • @jazzysrabbits
      @jazzysrabbits ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love your channel aswell xD And yeah Lennon the bunny does have good care info but yeah she can be rude about wire bottom and outdoor rabbit care

    • @LuluBearBuns
      @LuluBearBuns ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for all the love and support and if u are interested in baby litters of bunnies I’m I breeder and have litters for sale soon there 3wks rn and have to be 8 wks to be sold so if ur interested let me know

    • @BlessedWithPets
      @BlessedWithPets ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bunnylover13 I’m also a teenager I just turned 15 and I raise rabbits too! I know what it’s like to not be able to get more rabbits that you need simply cause a parent said no. But I found my dream rabbits, blue eyed white mini Rex, and they were on the way home from my birthday trip and I managed to convince them to let me get them. Then I found 3 lionheads For 15 dollars each at a chicken swap and i just bought them. I now have 2 Holland lops 6 babies, 3 lionheads nine babies, and 5 mini Rex and 3 babies. So it just takes time and if you are not allowed to buy any more rabbits at all I suggest you keep some does from the litter to breed back to your buck. You can breed mother son and father daughter I just don’t suggest brother sister matings. Hope all works out for you!

    • @abigailvalle6494
      @abigailvalle6494 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't even get me started with Lennon the Bunny, I can't even with her. I watched her videos and regret every single one. She'd praise a 2 x 2 closet with a carpet over a 10 x 8 outdoor paradise and call it a day. It's become less about what's best for the rabbit and it's natural needs and more about esthetics.

  • @pinehavenacres
    @pinehavenacres ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent video!
    Would also like to add, plastic resting mats are a great thing to have on the wire floors. Easy to clean and helps prevent sore hocks especially if the wire is a thinner gauge. It also just provides the option for them to get off the wire if they desire.

    • @WhiskeyTangoFarms
      @WhiskeyTangoFarms ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or when babies are just coming out of the nest box! It helps them not fall through the bottom as much. Less risk of injury. ☺️

  • @maraleefoster4354
    @maraleefoster4354 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found the information in this video invaluable ❤ You said that it’s unfortunate that you have to defend yourself about the wire flooring that you use however I’m so glad that you did, lol. I am sorry that you felt attacked. I always try to phrase my questions and concerns carefully so as not to make the subject feel attacked. I think that your thorough research & articulate explanations of wire bottoms should convince anyone who thought all wire bottomed cages were bad. I am just getting into rabbits and was concerned about my wire cages. I had planned today to go out and put some wood platforms in all of them due to the poor press on wire bottoms that I’ve been seeing. Now I know that I just need to check the gauge of wire in the cages & possibly replace the bottoms. The only thing missing from this video is how to determine the current gauge of a wire - I’ll have to look that one up. Also loved the tip that you burn off the fur on the wire with a torch - good tip😊. I’m definitely subscribing to your channel. Thank you

  • @johncoates8757
    @johncoates8757 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very good video. The way you explain the qualities of wire floor cages is sure to be beneficial to those not as familiar with rabbits. Great job.

  • @robinsalmani3627
    @robinsalmani3627 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for making this video!! It has been much needed as a response to people who completely misunderstand wire flooring! I mainly breed Netherland Dwarfs so many go home as pets and this is always a question from people who do not spend much time in the rabbit world.

  • @madfishermanmadfisherman4299
    @madfishermanmadfisherman4299 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have only been doing this for 1yr. I raise lionhead and cashmere rabbits. For most part I have them on 16 gage wire bottoms. They seem to like them. I sell and use them for eating.

  • @dr.chelsearichman5234
    @dr.chelsearichman5234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wire bottom floor is essential for my English angoras. While I was building the hutch and still doing my research on wire vs solid floors, I discovered my answer while they were staying in a god kennel…their fur is so long that poop and pee gets caught up in their fur when on a solid surface which required daily to 2x/day grooming. I watched your videos, found the 14 gauge .5x1” wire and have had beautiful and healthy bottomed rabbits ever since.❤

  • @boredbeingbored676
    @boredbeingbored676 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thankyou for answering all the questions ive had, and some i didnt, about cages. also, the tail trick for butchery is great!

  • @goransevic6483
    @goransevic6483 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big Respekt and Suport from Serbija . Ekselent .

  • @karlfowler3742
    @karlfowler3742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a bad experience with the wire from Tractor Supply. The rolls themselves were full of defects and the welds failed quickly under the load of a large Rabbit. The wire from Lowes seemed to be manufactured well enough but would only be good for sides. I ordered wire from Klubertanz and I was very happy with what I received but shipping is crazy. I'd say that it's very important to keep Nesting boxes clean and dry. Some does will use them as a litter box and get their feet saturated with waste build up in the box. I have one in particular that we have to keep a close eye on.

  • @AngelinaSmith-yu6wn
    @AngelinaSmith-yu6wn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Rex (and a few others) & I keep them all on wire bottom flooring. My rexes have never got sore hocks. My Netherland dwarf doe did once though.

  • @WhiskeyTangoFarms
    @WhiskeyTangoFarms ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tiny thing I wanted to add that: GAW (galvanized after weld) is much better, at least for these heavier breeds but especially if hanging your cages. I made the mistake of picking up GBW (galvanized before weld) wire locally and after a couple of months (tops) all the welds were popping and I had to replace them all. You might be ok to get GBW if you also add the supports that many cage suppliers offer for sale. (Testing this now with a couple of cages here at WTF: GBW with support, GAW without support, GAW with support).

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GAW is always better! Thanks for the extra info 😊

    • @Akavajian
      @Akavajian 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you let us know where you were able to purchase the GAW?? I am really struggling to find some!

  • @corriedavid5307
    @corriedavid5307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! We have rex and mini rex. We use all wire bottom cages and just give those breeds restin mats.

  • @faeleaf174
    @faeleaf174 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for posting this and going into great detail. No doubt that your rabbits are thriving just fine on wire. I had a pet rabbit about a decade ago, and I was under the belief that wire-bottom flooring, small cages, etc. were all the pinnacle of cruelty. Pet people can be a little... crazy, to say the least. So keep in mind that a lot of these people just flat-out don't know any better and go off of what the house rabbit society and other sources say is right and wrong.

  • @laurawallbank
    @laurawallbank ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny how it was rainy and chilly for you! Up in Alberta, Canada, yesterday was in the 80s (29 ish Celsius), I think we skipped spring up here haha. Usually doesn't happen that way! Also, really love your videos, you're a real inspiration to me! I'm wanting to start raising more animals, I grew up on a grain farm and we had cattle for a while. You have the kind of animals I really want to start with, meaning Netherland Dwarf, Nigerian Dwarf goats, and chickens. I also am starting to raise miniature horses, I'm sending my first double registered mini mare off to be bred in about a month! I'm so excited to have found someone who is raising most of the exact breeds of animals I want to have, I subbed a couple months ago when I was doing rabbit research 😊 we have a chicken coop so we're ready for that, but I'm in the middle of building a rabbit hutch (will probably get them in June) and then the goats won't probably be coming till later this year or early next year, so we don't have a solid plan in mind yet for their housing. So excited to follow your journey further!

  • @tinkerberns5216
    @tinkerberns5216 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've just started raising rabbits. Did lots of research before started. I.have 5 small pet rabbits. Not for food but for the grandchildren and mostly for "fertilizer" that's what I want and I want the absolute best for them. I'd like to find 12 or 14 guage, but 16 guage is the best I can find locally. They will be in my barn. They are going to be in a very large play area about 8' X 8' . I want them happy. I'm thinking I can use the 16 guage which I have along with supports about 16" apart. What are your thoughts?

  • @fawazoladejo
    @fawazoladejo ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy to see you back, I learn a lot from your videos even though I run a more commercial type of rabbitry. Much love from Nigeria🫶

  • @Hills_Hops
    @Hills_Hops ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for all of your video they are so helpful

  • @MichaelLukas-py1wj
    @MichaelLukas-py1wj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for more information 🙏🙏🙏👋👏

  • @galenperry4606
    @galenperry4606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason GBW is inferior is because the process is backwards. You galvanize then hit the joints with an arc which welds but burns off the galvanize. Cheaper that way I suppose but not as durable.
    Great video and you logic is sound. Heaviest wire you can afford. Bass Equipment that I’ve used for 40+ years has 12ga wire and also coated. Great company.

  • @MaryButler-kk9hn
    @MaryButler-kk9hn ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have Rex (not minis) and I use PVC coated wire. I’ve never had issues with their feet. I do also have rest mats in the cage. My experience is that the rest mats make all the difference in Rex feet.

  • @AquaFox155
    @AquaFox155 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow... clicked on this video ready to be educated but you did such a great job! loads of detail, all practical and for the rabbits' benefit. love to see people thinking critically with their animals. Question: are the plastic sections for optional wire relief? because love that inclusion too

  • @Angela-t7o
    @Angela-t7o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess it makes sense not to use straw then, because its very dusty. I only put straw in my rabbit hutches for winter to keep them a bit warmer since tyey need a steady temperature, but was still hesitant to do so because i don't like tye dust. And not having wood makes sense now, mine is wood, but i usually clean it daily and my rabbit is mostly litter trained.

  • @tonyritter4919
    @tonyritter4919 ปีที่แล้ว

    14 gauge galvanized after weld all the way! angora were a clean up nightmare. I've never raised giants but french lop did fine on wire and English spots and Tans as well. A lot of breed types have their little quirks that are weird as far as management.

  • @BethOvertonCPMmidwife
    @BethOvertonCPMmidwife ปีที่แล้ว

    Started with wire bottom cages and then went to colony on dirt to deep litter. I'm going back to cages for the cleanliness!

  • @nataliekarp5474
    @nataliekarp5474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a lot of different breeds, Rexes being one of them, from my experience with both plastic bottoms and wire bottoms. Rexes prefer the plastic, but I will say I currently have some on the wire and as long as a have a plastic mat in there(or something similar) to allow them to get on and off wire as they please making sure that plastic is getting washed every 2 days they are great with that. As for my angoras, I made the mistake of getting the tiny squared wire at first and now im having to redo it all. Also for people who are saying wire is bad, like she said plastic isn't the best either. If your not cleaning at least every 3 days their cages get nasty and could make then sick. So wire is definitely the best way to go just make sure you have something for them to get off as needed, and you have the proper wire. Also 1 last thing for people using zipties to make there cages and fix them, please stop, I'm always seeing those then they eat the zipties and your back to the same problem

  • @leannedeleeuw4122
    @leannedeleeuw4122 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also it is good to have the 1/2" side facing up so that there are the smallest gaps closest to the rabbit's feet. Thanks for your vids.
    If your two little lovebuns have kits it is going to just be the cutest- sooo teeny

  • @threebee5
    @threebee5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video! I know one of the main arguments against it is that rabbits can get their nails torn or break a toe. Is that a big worry with wire bottom cages? I saw that some of the rabbits have their toes kinda sticking out of the floors in the video.

  • @burnished
    @burnished ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely mention resting mats too, I believe they're important. I've kept rabbits that came to me with sore hock on wire flooring, and provided nice resting mats, and they've had no issues with sores since I got them healed up.
    But yeah, I've bred rex. I believe the 'rex can't be on wire' is more of an excuse, the breeders with this issue won't cull for the issue and it just keeps producing more animals with poor fur density (which is what causes sore hock in rex).

  • @abbiebarnes2200
    @abbiebarnes2200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow what a great video on rabbits! As a family we raised rabbits back in the 50s. We did it mostly your way... great video!

  • @marcoshernandez3088
    @marcoshernandez3088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please Can you tell me where I can buy the mesh 1 inch x 1/2 inch 14 gauge ?

  • @nickycarl626
    @nickycarl626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I breed Rex and I would have to agree with genetics. I provide tiles and resting mats on wire floors. My breeders do not have sore hocks.

  • @jessicamcintosh231
    @jessicamcintosh231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I jave been worried aboutbwinter and clthat the cages would get cold. Were covering the hoop coop with thick plastic and sonim glad i found your video but would they like some kind of mat to lay on.. ? Everytime i put hay or grass bedding in there they just scratch it out.. i have rex and new zealand they seem fine laying on the wire and its not coated but i was just worried for the winter

  • @randyking191
    @randyking191 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are very knowledgeable on the subject of flooring for rabbits and I agree with your thoughts on it. The comments about wire flooring being not good most likely come from people who don't know squat about raising rabbits. They just don't know any better, but they sure know how to post comments.

  • @nhare330
    @nhare330 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have Rex rabbits for meat. I've been raising them for over a year now and have never had a problem with sore hocks on wire floors. I even use the cheaper 16 guage option that you mentioned and haven't had a single rabbit with issues. A year in, the floor is starting to bow for my doe cages that have had several litters, but other than that, no problems. I haven't noticed much difference in how the fur on their feet grows compared to other rabbits either.

  • @Akavajian
    @Akavajian 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any idea how crucial it is for the wire to be GAW (Galvinized After Welded)? I am seeing some information on that being very important but having an incredibly difficult time sourcing that type of wire. I've only been able to find one manufacturer in Indiana and they charge more to ship than they do for the product.

  • @saraharndt4725
    @saraharndt4725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright I am on the hunt for the 1/2 x 1in 14 g wire. KW cages doesn't carry it. Could you point me in the right direction? Thank you!

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KW has it under the DIY tab, under galvanized wire 🙂

  • @jocelynmora8700
    @jocelynmora8700 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got a long ear rabbit, and she is a beauty. I was wondering if you have any advice for these cages at home. Please 🙏

  • @alisariley7730
    @alisariley7730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve heard that older rabbits just get sore hocks from a couple of the older breeders around me. As I’m still figuring things out, I don’t know if you can breed for older rabbits also not getting sore hocks.

  • @katedijkers7827
    @katedijkers7827 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is very enlightening. In EU we tend to use wooden floors so good to hear the other side of the story

  • @cainfrittswallace7895
    @cainfrittswallace7895 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe this is a crazy idea of but just a thought, what if you got the 16 gage wire from Lowe's and then spray coated it with flex seal so it would make it a little thicker gauge and be kind of like the PVC coated wire 🤷

  • @jimhannum8740
    @jimhannum8740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wire flooring is the way to go, no problamo with my Rex's.

  • @micahhill976
    @micahhill976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you sell any of your litters Tiffany? We are trying to find meat rabbits, but we can’t find any that we particularly want. We need a buck and a doe to breed. If you don’t have them, your totally fine!! Love your videos!!!!

  • @lennylink8772
    @lennylink8772 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That blowtorch method looks great to me

  • @lisafeck1537
    @lisafeck1537 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am getting my 1st rabbit for my grandson to do a 4-H project. I wonder if there is any concern for their nails getting caught. My son was able to get some interesting material for flooring, the holes are basically Dimond shaped. The wiring is actually all flat, no bending as demonstrated in the video. Anyone w more experience, insight will be appreciated.

    • @ArtByKarenEHaley
      @ArtByKarenEHaley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sounds like expanded metal mesh. Are the edges smooth or sharp? Did you and your son give it a try?

  • @Legend0222
    @Legend0222 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did research and being someone who has worked for years with animals air flow is always key to staying healthy, the best air flow is a wire floor. Also any housing/tools can be harmful if not used properly or people not paying attention and being neglectful....there are more than one way to do things, wish people would look at the animals and their happiness/health before spouting off 🙄

  • @GeorgeSmith-pe9vy
    @GeorgeSmith-pe9vy ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you use the chicken mesh over the 14 gauge wire so new babies don't fall through? Just wondering. Have been watching your videos to learn more about raising rabbits as a meat source as well as chickens, which I want to grow for meat and eggs.

    • @ArtByKarenEHaley
      @ArtByKarenEHaley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some people design the nest box with a lip, so when babies who are tightly latched on to their mothers teats are hanging on to momma as she gets out, the lip of the nest box stops them from being pulled out. I think chicken mesh tightly stretched under the wire floor might help but not on the walking surface. the gauge of wire used for chicken mesh is weak enough that it would probably break if it is walked on and rubbed against the thicker wire underneath. It then presents a puncture risk.
      I wouldn't want to clean the poop and pee build up on the chicken mesh.
      Instead I recommend you use a board by the nest and remember to check frequently for loose babies.

  • @mellissah8670
    @mellissah8670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have mini rex. We had to move with the herd and waited on a shed, which resulted in them staying in flemish carriers. Each carrier had a plastic rest board like you use and we started seeing sore hocks pop up. Transitioning to their permanent cages, we found it best to have them on wire only (pvc coated 14ga) in their 24x30 24x36 cages and hocks healed right up. We tried packing cages with straw, putting half rest surfaces to full rest surfaces, letting some have full run of the barn, to switching rest surfaces. Our conclusion is a combination of genetics (we have one older doe who's fur pads are slow to grow back), lack of room to hop, and the plastic rest boards rubbing the fur pads. This is the first it's happened to us. Rex fur is prone to thin fur pads. I know pet rex rabbits with whole rooms to themselves get sore hocks from poor genetics. Ours do best with the right kind of wire.

  • @WhiskeyTangoFarms
    @WhiskeyTangoFarms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this!! Your videos are always so helpful, factual and supported by real-life experiences. Or if you’re not sure, you do your best to make a mention of it but are transparent about your background level of the information. Your honesty is a driving force behind your credibility.
    The rain on the roof did not bother me. In fact, it was very relaxing and calming. When are you going to release a TSH soundtrack?! lol.

  • @Mylittleloki2918
    @Mylittleloki2918 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you get the black pans under the wire? I'm using tarps but those look tacky and aren't as durable. We like to use the droppings for fertilizer mix-in.

  • @yrmom200
    @yrmom200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    with 16-gauge wire could I overlap it and put the plastic foot pads for comfort

  • @johnthomas5806
    @johnthomas5806 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and what are you doing with the waste from the rabbits? I see you use collection bins under the cages.....easy to clean, sanitize?

  • @hopslopscanada
    @hopslopscanada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have Flemish Giants, Continental Giants, and Rex. All of them have done extremely well with proper gauge wire flooring. The only time I've ever had an issue with wire flooring was the first one we had which was hardware cloth and was quickly changed out once we realized the problem with it. We did get one rabbit with a sore hock from that, she was treated and healed fine but we've never seen the issue pop up again since we've corrected to proper gauge flooring. We have high ground water and flash flooding, I'd love to do a full colony style but we just can't so we have a modified raised colony, and some single rabbit pens as well all of it with wire bottom.

  • @melissastofey2911
    @melissastofey2911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I have a question I see that you are in a more rural farm area. We have a large yard. Probably about an Acre of yard in. An Acre with our house. My grandchildren have 2 rabbits which my daughter no longer once. But I would like to put the rabbits outside and bring them in when the weather is bad. Not sure because they are. They are domesticated, but I would like them to get used to being out 5 more and then bring them in. Win the weather. Really bad if you have. Any advice I would love that I would love not to have them at all but I'm humane and I can't see letting these poor rabbits go to somebody who may hurt that so any information you can give me. I would so appreciate it. Thank you so.

    • @ArtByKarenEHaley
      @ArtByKarenEHaley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rabbits are good outside as long as they are protected from moisture and rain. I wouldn't recommend a prefab hutch because they are not weather resistant long term.
      If you are not used to handling rabbits, they can kick and scratch. So moving them twice a day puts you at risk for scratches unless you know how to pick up a rabbit.

  • @theserenecrane
    @theserenecrane ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I breed standard Rex and yes, wire flooring is the best.
    No sores here! :)

  • @kingthebunny8302
    @kingthebunny8302 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an owner of a Rex rabbit, I personally would not recommend wire bottoms for them. I have had struggles with sore hocks for years and I’ve tried everything that I know. Nothing helped until I retired him and moved him inside to a carpeted room. This could be because of his genetics, but I know rex are prone to sore hocks because of their fur type. Hope this helps someone out there❤

  • @juleswins3
    @juleswins3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When the wire bottoms are installed using the 1/2”x1” wire, there is a “top and bottom” to the wire. Kind of hard for me to explain but if the “cross wires” are down, the rabbit only walks on the smooth wires on top.

  • @klover_leaf
    @klover_leaf ปีที่แล้ว

    We have New Zealands, Jersey Woolys, Britannia Petite, and Netherland Dwarf.
    We've also had fuzzy lops, Californians, meat mutts, and Dwarf Hotots.
    All our rabbits have lived on wire. And we've never had issues.
    A few of our does go into solid bottomed cages to kindle (specifically the Britannia Petites) and let me tell you. It is a NIGHTMARE. We may be getting a stack of Cavy Cages to help with cleaning.
    The rabbits get gross, all of the bedding needs to be changed daily, and the hutch stains are not fun to keep up on. I'm definitely convinced if they stayed on the solid bottom longer than 4-6 weeks they'd end up with sore hocks and infections.

  • @aperson1181
    @aperson1181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it ok to put adults together in 1 cage?

    • @ArtByKarenEHaley
      @ArtByKarenEHaley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It greatly depends on the rabbits and if they are bonded, and if they are the same sex or not.
      Does one rabbit already live in the cage? Then that is already claimed territory. The risk for a fight is high.
      Is one rabbit a buck (male) and the other a doe (female)? They can't live together. He will breed her, she will get pregnant, and she will fight him to protect the kits or he might try to hurt the kits.
      Rabbits are generally territorial. Some will bond with each other and get along just fine but not all are like that.

  • @anitachisnell8412
    @anitachisnell8412 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rabbits eat certain bits of their Poo called cecotropes, have you allowed for that Teal?

  • @ligaensultana680
    @ligaensultana680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plss make a day routine with the animals one theme plsssss

  • @Yarawid95
    @Yarawid95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video!

  • @s4ta440
    @s4ta440 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I’d like to add for pro wire bottom floors(and you totally got a great shot of this exact point) when rabbits run on dirt, their claws dig into the dirt. Wire flooring let’s their claws go down and creates a more natural movement of legs and joints.

  • @SamiAl-zakwani-pd2fu
    @SamiAl-zakwani-pd2fu ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much.

  • @fabricdragon
    @fabricdragon 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i can tell you that a lot of people think "wire floor" and they are thinking thin wire, that has cut them when they handled it.

  • @AshleyCamden
    @AshleyCamden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I breed Flemish, Continental, and Velveteen Lops.. I used wire bottom when I ran out of other spaces for a bit and had no issues but I wanted bigger than what wire cages could offer.
    My husband built 4' x 3' wood cages with wire on 3 sides for ventilation.
    Started with vinyl flooring but that was causing sore hocks, so we've been changing the flooring to rubber mats like they use for cows/horses.
    Cleaning is just... not fun. It takes a good hour, sometimes a bit more to clean +/- 20 cages.. some aren't so bad, they keep their business all to one little corner and it's not a big deal.. then there are the ones that have their own compost going within 2-3 days.. that would be the giants lol, my VLops are angels.
    I'm considering getting a few wire bottoms again and if I prefer them, making the switch.

    • @TT-_-
      @TT-_- ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you checked out slat floors? Plastic slat floor pieces are made for many animals: pigs, goats, chickens, rabbits! Personally I like the look of a wooden slat floor, and sounds like you have your own handy builder😉
      Calves at my workplace dairy have "private hutches" for the first week after birth. The bottom consists of metal slats, a rubber "slat" mat with round holes, and on top of it all straw to keep them warm. The pee drainage works very well, until the holes of the rubber mat eventually get blocked with sticky calf poop and straw.

  • @susannemarieschuster3974
    @susannemarieschuster3974 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need different wire for floor like 1/2"x1"

  • @melanielarocque7227
    @melanielarocque7227 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t touch on wire spacing. I’m having an impossible time finding 14g in 1/2 by 1 inch.

    • @WhiskeyTangoFarms
      @WhiskeyTangoFarms ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to order mine from a local cage dealer. KW had it online as well. Shipping is rather expensive so if you can coordinate to pick up at a show they are going to, that is helpful to save some money.

    • @melanielarocque7227
      @melanielarocque7227 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiskeyTangoFarms I’m in Canada and unfortunately it is very limited what I can find in BC. Shipping is insane up here unless you’re getting it from a large corporation. I found 1 by 2 inch 14 gauge for the sides. But the bottom, so far the best I can find is 1 by 1 inch 14 gauge with PVC coating.

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wire spacing was typed out on the subtitles each time I introduced a different gauge of wire 🙂
      I would recommend scoping out a local rabbit show and seeing what your local cage dealers have to offer!

  • @mohammadsuliman7729
    @mohammadsuliman7729 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Beautiful ❤️

  • @ratskullz_x
    @ratskullz_x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wire flooring isn't always good (if done wrong) but its better than urine scold. I dont believe its better than xpens or freeroam at least for pet rabbits (as I know its not quite possible for breeding or meat rabbits or just many in general as upkeep would take a lot of time).
    I also believe just because the rabbit is going to be ate doesnt mean it should have no quality of life, but honestly the thing I dont agree with most is the tiny tiny cages that people keep their rabbits in to where they can't even run or stretch their legs properly which a lot of wire cages are, plus the fact that their skin is thin and it keeps no heat in and their nails could get caught. - Someone who free roams their bun (netherland dwarf)

  • @Shady_oaks_rabbitry
    @Shady_oaks_rabbitry ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Palominos and got called Abusive bc I have wire bottom flooring!😂

  • @onemanjam_music
    @onemanjam_music ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let the rabbit pet owners cometh. Let thine rage boost the algorithm l!

  • @Monotarian
    @Monotarian ปีที่แล้ว

    What about using Hay in the cage not thoroughly but in most parts,I know the poop zone needs to be open :)

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would not. With rabbits they typically have one area they use for peeing but they will poop everywhere. Poop mixed with hay can cause coccidiosis.

    • @LuluBearBuns
      @LuluBearBuns ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TealStoneHomestead thanks for clearing that up Lennon the bunny said u should put it in the litter box we’re pee is thanks

  • @5678csmith
    @5678csmith ปีที่แล้ว

    Cleaning wire bottom when wire is clogged and hardened!

    • @Haleys_Henhouse_Mini_Farm
      @Haleys_Henhouse_Mini_Farm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the cage is clogged and hardened set it in a kiddie pool (one dedicated for cleaning) and allow it to soak until the soiled areas are softened enough to spray off with a hose.
      Using a warm water and dawn solution works well.

  • @bansku9661
    @bansku9661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hyvä video 😊

  • @OLDBD1
    @OLDBD1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👍🏼

  • @marlenewebster7095
    @marlenewebster7095 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to look extra close at the thumbnail because I seriously thought you were Sarah Jessica Parker. I think that’s her name anyway

  • @TamyXx
    @TamyXx ปีที่แล้ว

    This is kind of off topic but have you ever thought about making a tiktok?

  • @tingting8586
    @tingting8586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rabbits naturally don’t run on wired surfaces! Wired floor is not that clean as the pee and poos will trapped between holes which makes even harder to clean. Not mentioning those pee and poops will fall on the ground and create awful smells if not cleaned often! Give them a litter box change it every other day and tile their floors for cooler surfaces to lie on

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rabbits don’t naturally run in houses or on tile either 🤷‍♀️ it’s not a good argument.
      The pee and poop falls straight through the holes in the wire. My barn is raked/swept often. My rabbits are quite happy and clean 🙂

  • @CrZY8650
    @CrZY8650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wire flooring for bunnies is not recommended and hurt their feet, is uncomfortable and should be avoided at all cost. I recommend solid wood or plastic flooring with mats or paper pellet bedding. Also your rabbits cages are very much too small and can cause depression, obesity and all kinds of problems to bunnies. Please please invest in proper rabbit housing or don't have rabbits at all. Recommend a minimum enclosure size of 3m x 2m x 1m high, however please always think bigger is better. Please everyone don't follow this advice if you have bunnies, follow Lennon The bunny or The Bunny Lady for proper rabbit care.

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can do that for your pet rabbits but my methods are proven to be the safest, most sanitary and yes COMFORTABLE despite what pet rabbit TH-camrs have made you believe. Most of my rabbits are livestock, not pets. But even my pet Netherlands get wire bottom flooring because solid flooring is a breeding ground for bacteria and parasites, and is more likely to cause sore hocks in rabbits.

    • @CrZY8650
      @CrZY8650 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TealStoneHomestead it might be most sanitary if you don't clean your rabbits litterbox everyday, or every other day like you should do. In any case if you let your rabbits choose between mats or wire flooring i bet they would choose mats. I don't think there is any difference if you use your rabbits as "livestock" or not I still think they deserve to have the livelihoods of a very bunny life as long as they are alive. It is also recommended to not have rabbits outside as they are in risk of these infections outside, as well as other diseases frim city rabbits like rhdv and myxomatosis, and flystrike. And there is no excuse to have that little space per bunny, as they are very active animals. The wire flooring doesn't allow for any digging either which is a very important behaviour for rabbits.

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CrZY8650 you should watch more of my videos and comment more things 😆

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +2

      NO! Lennon the bunny lies and makes up stuff and makes rabbits look like weak animals and she is lying she is wrong

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CrZY8650I’ve housed rabbits outside and nothing ever happened.
      Your obviously making up stuff about rabbits that isn’t true and listing to weird creepy people who make rabbits look like weak animals

  • @jase123111
    @jase123111 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK. So how to the rabbits do their natural behaviour of digging on a wire floor? Also, how do they get to eat their own poop, as that is important to their health?
    It's no life for such an active animal to be kept in these small wire cages for their lives.
    Have some compassion and house them in large outdoor pens, with burrows, grass to eat and soil to dig in. I bet you have enough space.

    • @TealStoneHomestead
      @TealStoneHomestead  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is easy for them to get cecotropes, they eat them as they come out. My rabbits get out often in nice weather. The biggest problem with housing rabbits in outdoor pens is coccidiosis and RHDV2.

  • @sarahh9579
    @sarahh9579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just cruel anyway. This is no way to live. Plus their cecotropes will fall through the wire.

    • @KermitAdventures
      @KermitAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ? Wire flooring is actually the best, don’t listen to Lenny bunny she is lying and making up stuff about rabbits that isn’t true

    • @Yarawid95
      @Yarawid95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rabbits have no issues eating their cecotropes as they eat them as soon as they poop them out 🙂

    • @sarahh9579
      @sarahh9579 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put it this way, if you were a rabbit would you want to live on wire flooring? It's like living low class

    • @Yarawid95
      @Yarawid95 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarahh9579 Living low class? If I were a rabbit then yes, I would want to live on wire flooring that has a low gauge. I have seen so many rabbits with sore hocks that lives on blankets/carpets/hard floors because the owner thinks it's more comfortable.

    • @sarahh9579
      @sarahh9579 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yarawid95 I've owned 20 domestic rabbits over the years and I'm also a wildlife rehabber. Never have I seen what you are referring to. There's nothing natural about it. If they were living in their natural environment they would not be on wire flooring.
      I would imagine someone more likely into breeding and obtaining meat from rabbits would use wire bottom. They're not in it for the comfort of the animal but in it for themselves.

  • @LuluBearBuns
    @LuluBearBuns ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where in the process of making a rabbit shed for my 13 breeders and 18 babies and I would love if u could FaceTime me to see it u my favorite TH-camr

  • @tappix86
    @tappix86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I breed Std. Rex and use KW cages with wire flooring. I have found that providing several resting mats in the areas they enjoy laying in to be helpful. You do have to pull and clean the mats regularly.