0:33 Mark has made it pretty clear that if you do any stretching before you lift, you have to wear a dress for the rest of the day. So I’m not surprised the guy got injured.
Here’s the reason Tanner made tonnes of progress on starting strength. 1. He has spent years accumulating volume and building muscle mass which builds your base and strength potential. 2. He has zoned in on specific strength training in lower rep ranges with less volume accumulating better neurological adaptation to maximal strength adaptations. 3. As a result of getting super specific after a long phase of building his muscle mass, endurance and volumizing he made a shit tonne of progress. This is literally the basis of periodisation. Beginners should NOT run something low volume with a small amount of exercises like SS because they have not built a base of muscle mass and will stall very quickly. Then they will be told to move onto intermediate programming using the same sub par methods and just adding weight weekly instead. Instead, novices should be exposing themselves to more exercise variation and getting proficient at a lot of different movements aswel as exposing themselves to a wider variety of rep ranges. Even Andy baker who is the co author of practical programming has changed his mind over the years and now advises against the standard LP and says to do something like the following 3-4 days per week: Workout A: Bench 3x5 Press 3x5 Pull Accessory x 2-3 Sets Push Accessory x 2-3 Sets Arm / Shoulder Work 2-3 sets Workout B: Squat 3x5 Deadlift 1x5 Hamstring accessory x 2-3 sets Quad accessory x 2-3 sets Abs x 2-3 sets This would allow for greater overall development and get your body used to extra volume and build more muscle so you have greater long term muscle and strength development.
Yeah man. Honestly I made more progress running GZCLP than Starting Strength. Used both at different points of my training history after coming off a layoff. GZCLP looks similar to what you explained and offers more exercise variety, plus progression, although weekly, isn't as aggressive as in SS. In SS, squatting 3x a week and adding weight each session had my CNS fried once the weight got heavy. I could've done some things better for sure but GZCLP went way smoother and aesthetically I looked better.
@@iker8010 For sure man ! This is the way to go. Literally no high level strength athlete has ever ran something like SS or anything remotely like it. The best real power lifting programs have variety and a good mixture of volumes + intensity aswel as pushing accessory work.
I'm going to look into both of these suggestions because I'm about 7 weeks into SS and I just don't feel like it's working for me. I'm not saying that's the program's fault, it might be that I'm just not able to do it correctly (e.g. having a lot of trouble with the low bar form), but my DL stalled a few weeks ago and I've actually gotten weaker; 4 weeks ago I failed on the 5th rep of 115kg and today I just barely managed 5 reps of 112.5kg. Starting to wonder if it's because I stopped doing RDLs.
@@eduardosuarez2414 move on to another program bro. SS is good for like 2-4 months to get your strength up quick but after that the progression scheme becomes to harsh and you'll stall, plus the workouts will become insufferable. I'd recommend you do a program with a bit more variety and instead of linear progression, use double progression, progressing through reps first and then adding weight eventually, Progress will be slower that way, but steadier and smoother. As far as low bar, SS dogma will have you believe that Rippetoe squat is the only acceptable squat form since it allows you to 'move more weight'. Honestly do what fits best for your biomechanics. I'm super happy with high bar squats since they fit my biomechanics better (shorter legs, longer torso):
@@iker8010 Yeah I'll try GZCLP. It's actually quite similar to what I was doing before SS, with the idea of alternating a light and heavy version of each exercise, with a couple of accessories. I think going from that to the relatively low volume of SS didn't help me much. I've only really progressed in the bench and press, but I'm getting close to stalling in both of those, so doing 5x3 instead 3x5 seems like the intuitive thing to do. Having an actual strategy for dealing with stalls is good too.
For lifters it is. Testosterone and recovery capabilities begin falling in the early thirties and really drop in the forties. Andy Baker has discussed this a lot as well.
@@jamesianv He was doing the major lifts once a week Upper/lower/upper/lower style Adding 5 pounds on the big lifts once a week. Hard to progress any faster than that while staying lean and jacked considering how strong he was to start with. He was not a novice he was already quite advanced (he can literally do weighted muscle ups)
If you saw them you'd understand why they squat so much right away, that's why they don't show it. Of course you never see Rip or Nick lift anything either and that's because they are so injured and beat up they can barely walk.
Chase Lindley would be the most visible example of Rip’s claim. He’s squatting in the 600s. And he doesn’t have much natural explosiveness. Rip coached him from early teenage years.
@@JeewanthaBandara ahhhh yes, the ONLY example ever provided, a 20-something kid who IMO likely used some form of PED to do a standing bench press with 405 several years ago. Why don't we see Nick D's current lifts? All these clowns do is lecture people on how to lift but never do it themselves on camera.
@@richards6431 he is still under Rip's wing working as an SSC coach in a SS gym somewhere and married to an older black woman. Another example of how getting big and strong helps guys attract top tier women. You should see MIchael Wolff's girlfriend. Wow! Super hot!
Whoah! Didn’t expect tanner on here. Good shit
same, he's a good non-bs content creator
Good interview mark I look forward to listening to tanner story 💪😎 keep up the good content
0:33
Mark has made it pretty clear that if you do any stretching before you lift, you have to wear a dress for the rest of the day. So I’m not surprised the guy got injured.
your link doesn't go to anything about stretching
I wish I started before 58.
How much bodyweight gained?
Doesn’t look like much.
all of it
Here’s the reason Tanner made tonnes of progress on starting strength.
1. He has spent years accumulating volume and building muscle mass which builds your base and strength potential.
2. He has zoned in on specific strength training in lower rep ranges with less volume accumulating better neurological adaptation to maximal strength adaptations.
3. As a result of getting super specific after a long phase of building his muscle mass, endurance and volumizing he made a shit tonne of progress. This is literally the basis of periodisation.
Beginners should NOT run something low volume with a small amount of exercises like SS because they have not built a base of muscle mass and will stall very quickly. Then they will be told to move onto intermediate programming using the same sub par methods and just adding weight weekly instead.
Instead, novices should be exposing themselves to more exercise variation and getting proficient at a lot of different movements aswel as exposing themselves to a wider variety of rep ranges.
Even Andy baker who is the co author of practical programming has changed his mind over the years and now advises against the standard LP and says to do something like the following 3-4 days per week:
Workout A:
Bench 3x5
Press 3x5
Pull Accessory x 2-3 Sets
Push Accessory x 2-3 Sets
Arm / Shoulder Work 2-3 sets
Workout B:
Squat 3x5
Deadlift 1x5
Hamstring accessory x 2-3 sets
Quad accessory x 2-3 sets
Abs x 2-3 sets
This would allow for greater overall development and get your body used to extra volume and build more muscle so you have greater long term muscle and strength development.
Yeah man. Honestly I made more progress running GZCLP than Starting Strength. Used both at different points of my training history after coming off a layoff. GZCLP looks similar to what you explained and offers more exercise variety, plus progression, although weekly, isn't as aggressive as in SS. In SS, squatting 3x a week and adding weight each session had my CNS fried once the weight got heavy. I could've done some things better for sure but GZCLP went way smoother and aesthetically I looked better.
@@iker8010 For sure man !
This is the way to go.
Literally no high level strength athlete has ever ran something like SS or anything remotely like it.
The best real power lifting programs have variety and a good mixture of volumes + intensity aswel as pushing accessory work.
I'm going to look into both of these suggestions because I'm about 7 weeks into SS and I just don't feel like it's working for me. I'm not saying that's the program's fault, it might be that I'm just not able to do it correctly (e.g. having a lot of trouble with the low bar form), but my DL stalled a few weeks ago and I've actually gotten weaker; 4 weeks ago I failed on the 5th rep of 115kg and today I just barely managed 5 reps of 112.5kg. Starting to wonder if it's because I stopped doing RDLs.
@@eduardosuarez2414 move on to another program bro. SS is good for like 2-4 months to get your strength up quick but after that the progression scheme becomes to harsh and you'll stall, plus the workouts will become insufferable. I'd recommend you do a program with a bit more variety and instead of linear progression, use double progression, progressing through reps first and then adding weight eventually, Progress will be slower that way, but steadier and smoother.
As far as low bar, SS dogma will have you believe that Rippetoe squat is the only acceptable squat form since it allows you to 'move more weight'. Honestly do what fits best for your biomechanics. I'm super happy with high bar squats since they fit my biomechanics better (shorter legs, longer torso):
@@iker8010 Yeah I'll try GZCLP. It's actually quite similar to what I was doing before SS, with the idea of alternating a light and heavy version of each exercise, with a couple of accessories. I think going from that to the relatively low volume of SS didn't help me much. I've only really progressed in the bench and press, but I'm getting close to stalling in both of those, so doing 5x3 instead 3x5 seems like the intuitive thing to do. Having an actual strategy for dealing with stalls is good too.
Hey!!! Nice😊
Rippetoe and his long-lost son
36 isn't old
Looking back my 30s rocked and my 20s sucked.
Depends how your looking at it
@@FfhfxhggfReading this in my crappy 20s. Hope it works out for me like it did for you.
For lifters it is. Testosterone and recovery capabilities begin falling in the early thirties and really drop in the forties. Andy Baker has discussed this a lot as well.
@@FfhfxhggfYeah that's not what we're talking about here
What is nlp
Novice Linear Progression
Tanner with Mark 😂
I've been to Dubai. Its almost like Las Vegas of the Middle East. A lot of female street walkers from China, if you know what l mean.
@@dbozexpat894 nice. I need to visit.
U smash any ?
I hope Tanner brought his pee bucket with him.
Lol 😂
5 lbs a week for 3 months , thats 60 lbs .. WTF you talking about? i did that at 69 years old.
If he was doing NLP he meant 5 lbs a workout.
Edit: you’re right, he did clearly say once a week. Must mean he started at a higher weight.
Tanner schuck is a pro fitness athlete with a crazy physique. Not as easy to gain when you are as advanced as he is.
@@mrgame97 good point but he is talking NLP thats 5 lbs a workout unless his injuries are a factor.
@@jamesianv
He was doing the major lifts once a week
Upper/lower/upper/lower style
Adding 5 pounds on the big lifts once a week. Hard to progress any faster than that while staying lean and jacked considering how strong he was to start with. He was not a novice he was already quite advanced (he can literally do weighted muscle ups)
Show one of these “ kids at the gym” getting their squat up that high. Never see any proof of this.
If you saw them you'd understand why they squat so much right away, that's why they don't show it. Of course you never see Rip or Nick lift anything either and that's because they are so injured and beat up they can barely walk.
Chase Lindley would be the most visible example of Rip’s claim. He’s squatting in the 600s. And he doesn’t have much natural explosiveness. Rip coached him from early teenage years.
Yeah and what is chase doing now?
@@JeewanthaBandara ahhhh yes, the ONLY example ever provided, a 20-something kid who IMO likely used some form of PED to do a standing bench press with 405 several years ago. Why don't we see Nick D's current lifts? All these clowns do is lecture people on how to lift but never do it themselves on camera.
@@richards6431 he is still under Rip's wing working as an SSC coach in a SS gym somewhere and married to an older black woman. Another example of how getting big and strong helps guys attract top tier women. You should see MIchael Wolff's girlfriend. Wow! Super hot!
Oh no Tanner you fell for the SS meme