This is a vital service part on any engine, I also noticed when you pulled it apart there appeared to be a hole in the filter material which means dirty oil is not going to get filtered Properly so engine wear could increase. I think you've open a can of worms for the manufacturers to sort out there terrible quality controls! so well done.👍
I hated the idea of plastic cages when I first saw them in filters. I thought of it as being mfg. cost cutting.Now after watching many filter dissections I realize that they actually allow for a easier flow. Someday I may even change how I feel about fiber end caps 🤔
Great investigating. I had to put my phone down and stream this video on the big screen for the entire family to see. A big thanks to your "deep throat" informant for bringing this to light.
A lot of Motorcraft FL-820s filters have louvers that are only partially opened. I looked at 6 of them at Walmart and finally gave up. That's why I switched to Microgard Select filters.
Good video for everyone to see. I noticed this on a K&N filter I bought 4 years ago for my 2004 Dakota pickup. A lot of the louvers were not punched correctly. This filter was made in China. To K&N's credit they sent a new one to me without having to return the old one. I bought the filter directly from them. I have also noticed this on the Napa Gold filter for my Mazda. This filter is made by WIX and is made in Mexico. The Wix filter is identical to the Napa Gold filter also made in Mexico. I think the Wix, Purolator filters are now owned by Mann Humel. Most Bosch filters are made by Purolator from what I can tell. They both had a lot of louvers that were not punched correctly. I now tend to stay away from louvered filters for this reason. I first remember seeing this louvered core when I worked in industry about 20years ago. The Pal water filters used this type of center core. They were made of stainless and punched correctly. The tooling was probably much better than what is used for the auto oil filters. I still have the old K&N filter with the bad louvers if you want me to send it to you so you can cut it open.
I would like to see another shot of those louvers in a completely dark room with light down one end of tube viewing louvers light on outside. While louvers not as open as last Mexico Bosch, I'm very doubtful they pose a flow or bypass issue.
@@cr2158 Because one outlier does not a rule make. Oil filter companies like Champ Labs have been using louvers for a very long time. And, more manufacturers are moving to them. Just the way it is.
So many brands use similar louvers, are the louver cores made in the same factory across brands that use them? I don't know, so I guess you are on point, check your filters. If you buy in the store, check them before you purchase.
I've noticed this on the Wix. I've been using the Napa Gold 1734 for my 7.3 diesel and I usually check for this. I've looked at the Wix 51734 at O'reileys which is supposed to be the exact same filter, and I noticed that quite a few of the louvers were pinched closed on the Wix. I looked at several that were on the shelf and they were all about the same. I've never seen this problem on the Napa Gold. Maybe Wix just had a bad batch go to O'reileys and I just happened to check them out at the right, or wrong time.
I had this EXACT issue yesterday (100% closed louvers on 2/3 of them, other louvers slightly, barely open) WIX 57002 (Made in Mexico). First oil change on wife's 2.5L Turbo Mazda CX-50. Thank the Lord I caught it!!! VERY VERY disappointed in WIX about this!! HUGE quality control issue!!! Other WIX designs tend to be excellent. No more louvered filters for me here on out. I tend to order filters online, so I won't be able to inspect them prior to purchase. So, it's not worth buying louvered filters in my opinion.
i work in Mfg and even though there are a lot of quality control "safeguards" built into the process in mass manufacturing, there is the odd product that slip through the cracks. Checking your filters when you buy them, like this person did is a good idea, "a second set of eyes". I hope the guys from Mann and Hummel see this video.
I've received two filters like this in the past. Both times I ended up sending them back for a replacement directly from the manufacturer. I could have returned them to the place of purchase but I wanted the manufacturer to see for themselves what they were churning out lol. One was a WIX, the other was a Purolator. Because of the potential of this occurring with even the slightest of manufacturing variance to louvers, I now avoid oil filters that have louvers. Seeing is believing. When the E-cores first started hitting the market, a lot of people (including myself to a certain degree) suspected it was the manufacturers trying to scrape a few extra pennies in profit but the actual testing I've seen done on the E-cores confirms they are stronger than the metal cages and one thing for sure and without any doubt, the E-cores offer dramatically less resistance to flow versus louvers, not to even mention louvers that haven't been stamped open properly. I don't mind the metal cages that have drill holes instead of louvers, as I've never seen one with drill holes that's anywhere near as restrictive as incorrectly stamped (not fully opened) louvers can be. Whichever way you think about it though, you'll NEVER have to worry about improperly stamped louvers with an E-core!
Thanks, great ideas… Anyways,I generally inspect things ( parts,replacements,new) reasonably closely, Save (or store temporary)the new Wrappper/box/container for info:, Warranty’s,the Replaced/old/new items……in summary, will inspect filters/etc closer& with high intensity light, etc.!
Wow!!! I have a relative that works on heavy equipment. He says they have been finding metal filings inside filters from major manufacturers like CAT. They now borescope all of the filters before installing them as those particles would go directly into the engine and can plug oil cooling jets at the bottom of cylinders and do other damage.
There are a few good reasons to look down the center of a new filter ! One napa gold i bought had large dead stink bug in it and one filter i bought new had engine oil already in it ! Must have been a return ? but ya thanks the video whip ! 🍺
The louvers were partially open. Some oil would have flowed through them. Any excess restriction would cause the bypass to open. So, would that have destroyed the engine? No, but you'd have an oil change worth of poor filtering. The most worrisome part of this to me would be if the louvers release metal fragments into the "clean" side of the oil. THAT could have damaged the engine, and you'd have virtually no way to prove that it was Bosch's fault. Bosch definitely owes the user community a response. I've just removed Bosch from my vendor list for oil filters.
Just had this issue on a WIX 57002 (made in Mexico) yesterday. Caught it before installation!! Other WIX designs I've used are excellent. No more louvered filter designs for me.
I just looked through a pile of Bosch 3500 filters (same size as Ford FL1a and Fram PH8a) that I bought. I use them in several vehicles. Out of 28 Bosch 3500, 17 had louvers and 11 had drilled holes. The date code on filters is greek so I can’t tell which ones are newer. I used one of these Bosch 3500 filter on my 1994 Nissan Pathfinder as I use a remote oil filter setup. I failed emissions last week in AZ. I was told that dirty old oil can cause you to fail. So I changed it after just 2,000 miles. Oil was BLACK AF. I thought I had a plugged EGR etc. Just spent 30 minutes digging through the trash. The one I pulled off of Pathfinder was louvered! I ordered an oil filter cutter last week after watching a bunch of these videos. I will take it apart and see. Louvers look kinda closed from outside but not sure if that is the black oil causing it to only look closed. Stay tuned…
I recently bought a Bosch 3311 Premium oil filter from Home Depot online for $6 plus tax with free shipping, made in Mexico. Yes, Home Depot. Apparently, they sell a limited line of auto parts online. Parts are hit & miss. Anyway, the same thing happened to me. I looked inside, and most of the louvers looked closed. I returned it to my local store. I wound up buying a dozen Champ 2840XL oil filters on Rock Auto. $3.47 each plus $10.99 shipping plus 6% tax, $55.79 total or $4.65 each, bottom line. I've watched MANY of your videos and Champ XL seems like the most bang for the buck to me for my 2001 Toyota Echo with 214,000 miles on it. Automatic 4 speed and I still get around 40 mpg highway. Runs like a top.
Quality control. I mean you've seen the areas they make some oil filters. Not only dirty conditions but they just assemble without looking if the parts are ok. Maybe call or email the company and refer them to your video?
I think it may have been before 2014. Bosch used to be made by Champ Labs but that was before Bosch and Mann both bought Purolator from Arvin Meritor back in 2006. After that Bosch US made by Purolator.
@@faxmen09 Hard to tell. Bought the last ones for that vehicle both on sale for 5.77 from Oreillys March 2014. They looked the same as all the ones prior. 8.1 Big block filters.
Huh, that's the filter I use and interestingly enough my oil pressure dropped 5 or 6 PSI after my last oil change. It's not low but now I'm wondering if I should replace it anyway
@@GT-mn3bx no, it had always been a certain pressure at a temp & RPM since I bought the car new. Always used the same oil and changed every 5k. So it was this last filter. Note I went out after posting and changed the filter with a new Bosch I had on the shelf for the next oil change (didn't change the oil, just replaced the filter 'early' ) Drove the car to warm it up and check and see I regained the missing oil pressure - so it WAS something about the filter!
Pandemic build quality?!? A lot of stuff has had a declining build quality since the pandemic. I had a helluva time to get a new working fridge last year and they were made in Mexico as well.
YEP. America took a hellish hit from that COVID catastrophe. Too bad that NOTHING was done until President Joe Biden took control. American-made appliances (Refrigerators, Stoves, Washing Machines, TVs), and just about ALL manufactured goods are no longer made here. Americans refused to work for slave wages, so THE MANUFACTURERS SENT OUR JOBS to "3rd World" countries. Fortunately, President Biden also signed into law the "CHIPS Act", which brings Chip-making jobs BACK to America's shores.
Some times people all ways go for most expensive filters the more the higher filter rating some times you get low flow but super tech ac Delco motor craft every 3000 or 3500 max you usually never end up with problems
I seen 2 Bosch filters with suspect closed holes, complained to Bosch & then promptly crushed both Bosch oil filters in the filter crusher instead of returning them to the autoparts store where they would have ended back up on the shelf & destroy someone else's engine.....these should have not gotten past quality control at the factory....but then again it's a Mexican factory
Blaming the problem on a Mexican factory is stupid! You obviously don't know anything about quality control prosses in an automated mass manufacturing facility. Do you think they pay some flunkie to sit there and personally EYE BALL every cage. They stamp out tens of thousands of those things in an hour and even computers don't catch all the problems.
@@Haffschlappe ,they was original Bosch filters that was made in Mexico & was sold thru legitimate parts suppliers thru Bosch for the North American market,Bosch even refunded the purchases & took the information off the filter that I took pictures of ,they also sent me a jobber pack of 12 replacement filters a few weeks later
Thanks to Mr. Anon Y. Mous that he found this. I will bash Bosch for having their filters made in Mexico to save money. It can happen to anyone, but more likely with items made in China and Mexico.
Screw worrying about bashing Bosch. That filter could ruin your 100k truck in hurry. Dang that's scary in 30 years I have never checked that. I will be now.
Not good. That would definitely hinder oil flow, and starve the engine for lubrication. I’m not a fan of louvers, and I always check to make sure the louvers are open before I put it on my car/truck.
Installing an oil filter like this could cost someone an engine. Videos like this emphasize the importance of at least glancing over and checking the filter's construction. On top of that, I see the sloppy glue...prices go up, quality goes down. Probably a new factory in MX as these filters were made in the USA before.
Still seems very odd not to return it to the seller for a refund. I'm now thinking a sketchy seller like ebay and the filter may be counterfeit. Media color different on both filters. Suspicious if nothing else.
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This is a vital service part on any engine, I also noticed when you pulled it apart there appeared to be a hole in the filter material which means dirty oil is not going to get filtered
Properly so engine wear could increase.
I think you've open a can of worms for the manufacturers
to sort out there terrible quality controls! so well done.👍
Thank You😊
This is precisely why I avoid filters with louvers. The SuperTech and its nylon cage keeps my mind at ease.
Me also
I hated the idea of plastic cages when I first saw them in filters. I thought of it as being mfg. cost cutting.Now after watching many filter dissections I realize that they actually allow for a easier flow. Someday I may even change how I feel about fiber end caps 🤔
The nylon end tanks on a radiator can last 21 years. Those are boiling hot. The material seems fairly resilient.
One reason I prefer holes to louvers. I honestly don't know why filter companies do louvers.
Louvers have no punch debris trash like holes leave. .
Wow! I NEVER look inside new filters. I check gaskets but will look from now on! Thanks to u & viewer who sent/caught the Bosch. 👍✊🇺🇸
Great investigating. I had to put my phone down and stream this video on the big screen for the entire family to see. A big thanks to your "deep throat" informant for bringing this to light.
Drinking to many Corona beers at the assembly plant in Mexico.
LOL
Chad drinks Corona. Men drink Modelo.
Goodeye!
MyOCD, I open boxes that haven’t been and find the best looking filter. 🤷♂️😏👍🏻🙏🏻
That's why I prefer filters with round holes inside.
Wow! Now I’m going to have double check my filters!
A lot of Motorcraft FL-820s filters have louvers that are only partially opened. I looked at 6 of them at Walmart and finally gave up. That's why I switched to Microgard Select filters.
Thanks for Sharing, my Walmart no longer has the Motorcraft oil filters.
@@WhipCityWrencher My Walmart has them but they doubled the price from $4 to $8.
👍 Whipster
Good video for everyone to see. I noticed this on a K&N filter I bought 4 years ago for my 2004 Dakota pickup. A lot of the louvers were not punched correctly. This filter was made in China. To K&N's credit they sent a new one to me without having to return the old one. I bought the filter directly from them. I have also noticed this on the Napa Gold filter for my Mazda. This filter is made by WIX and is made in Mexico. The Wix filter is identical to the Napa Gold filter also made in Mexico. I think the Wix, Purolator filters are now owned by Mann Humel. Most Bosch filters are made by Purolator from what I can tell. They both had a lot of louvers that were not punched correctly. I now tend to stay away from louvered filters for this reason. I first remember seeing this louvered core when I worked in industry about 20years ago. The Pal water filters used this type of center core. They were made of stainless and punched correctly. The tooling was probably much better than what is used for the auto oil filters. I still have the old K&N filter with the bad louvers if you want me to send it to you so you can cut it open.
Hi David,
I'd rather have a New filter.
Thanks for sharing.
wow
Thanks for the heads up Whip
👍
Good catch Pete. This is why I like HOLES. Napa Platinum😚.
Garbage filter
I would like to see another shot of those louvers in a completely dark room with light down one end of tube viewing louvers light on outside. While louvers not as open as last Mexico Bosch, I'm very doubtful they pose a flow or bypass issue.
Hi faxmen09,
I"ll have and do it at night because even with my shades down it's still rather light in the room. I'll see if I can do it tonight.
@@WhipCityWrencher Sounds like a plan. I think it would be interesting to see. When you can get to it.
Why chance it go with open cage style better safe than sorry plus no long mileage oil changes that been drumed up by oil companies
@@faxmen09 8:45pm 👍
@@cr2158 Because one outlier does not a rule make. Oil filter companies like Champ Labs have been using louvers for a very long time. And, more manufacturers are moving to them. Just the way it is.
Great catch... I'll check mine more closely now. Thank you and the viewer who sent you that filter both.
So many brands use similar louvers, are the louver cores made in the same factory across brands that use them? I don't know, so I guess you are on point, check your filters. If you buy in the store, check them before you purchase.
That is something else. Wow 😳 I will watch out.
3rd rainy South Carolina view
I prefer the plastic cage design, as they flow very freely.
That's what I love about this channel: insight into unthought of things.
Jay the Florida pool pump motor repair guy. When Service Calls Longwood approved ! that was good info 2 see & know👨🔧good job !! WOW WCW
Thanks Jay👍
Great video going to send you a filter ve expecting it soon
Wow great catch and interesting video. Thanks Pete for posting this video and thank you to the viewer for sending it. 👍🇨🇦
You're Welcome drum👍
Good on ya! Would never have expected. Easy exam before installation...something I will be doing each time, now. A little scary, actually.
👍
Thank you very much!
You're Welcome Enrico👍
I've noticed this on the Wix. I've been using the Napa Gold 1734 for my 7.3 diesel and I usually check for this. I've looked at the Wix 51734 at O'reileys which is supposed to be the exact same filter, and I noticed that quite a few of the louvers were pinched closed on the Wix. I looked at several that were on the shelf and they were all about the same. I've never seen this problem on the Napa Gold. Maybe Wix just had a bad batch go to O'reileys and I just happened to check them out at the right, or wrong time.
Thank you!
You're Welcome👍
I had this EXACT issue yesterday (100% closed louvers on 2/3 of them, other louvers slightly, barely open) WIX 57002 (Made in Mexico). First oil change on wife's 2.5L Turbo Mazda CX-50. Thank the Lord I caught it!!! VERY VERY disappointed in WIX about this!! HUGE quality control issue!!! Other WIX designs tend to be excellent. No more louvered filters for me here on out. I tend to order filters online, so I won't be able to inspect them prior to purchase. So, it's not worth buying louvered filters in my opinion.
Hi Dustin,
The more I see and hear about the closed louvers the more I'm liking the Nylon cage. Haven't seen a defective one yet. Thanks for Sharing👍
Great info thanks for sharing 👍
i work in Mfg and even though there are a lot of quality control "safeguards" built into the process in mass manufacturing, there is the odd product that slip through the cracks. Checking your filters when you buy them, like this person did is a good idea, "a second set of eyes". I hope the guys from Mann and Hummel see this video.
Purolator boss I bought has a lot of closed louvers as well. Definitely gonna start using filters with holes
Great job Pete
Thanks Dwayne
I've been checking the louvers for a few years now. This is very common on the WIX 10255. I go through every box on the shelf before i purchase.
And that's why I love E-core filters.
I've received two filters like this in the past. Both times I ended up sending them back for a replacement directly from the manufacturer. I could have returned them to the place of purchase but I wanted the manufacturer to see for themselves what they were churning out lol. One was a WIX, the other was a Purolator. Because of the potential of this occurring with even the slightest of manufacturing variance to louvers, I now avoid oil filters that have louvers. Seeing is believing. When the E-cores first started hitting the market, a lot of people (including myself to a certain degree) suspected it was the manufacturers trying to scrape a few extra pennies in profit but the actual testing I've seen done on the E-cores confirms they are stronger than the metal cages and one thing for sure and without any doubt, the E-cores offer dramatically less resistance to flow versus louvers, not to even mention louvers that haven't been stamped open properly. I don't mind the metal cages that have drill holes instead of louvers, as I've never seen one with drill holes that's anywhere near as restrictive as incorrectly stamped (not fully opened) louvers can be. Whichever way you think about it though, you'll NEVER have to worry about improperly stamped louvers with an E-core!
That's for sure😊👍
Look and shake them all the time. That's a good catch.
This is something I had never even thought of. I bet this guy is going to use nothing but SuperTech with the plastic cage from now on. :))
Thanks, great ideas… Anyways,I generally inspect things ( parts,replacements,new) reasonably closely, Save (or store temporary)the new Wrappper/box/container for info:, Warranty’s,the Replaced/old/new items……in summary, will inspect filters/etc closer& with high intensity light, etc.!
Wow!!! I have a relative that works on heavy equipment. He says they have been finding metal filings inside filters from major manufacturers like CAT. They now borescope all of the filters before installing them as those particles would go directly into the engine and can plug oil cooling jets at the bottom of cylinders and do other damage.
Industrial sabotage
There are a few good reasons to look down the center of a new filter ! One napa gold i bought had large dead stink bug in it and one filter i bought new had engine oil already in it ! Must have been a return ? but ya thanks the video whip ! 🍺
Thanks scotty,
stink bug, wow, Good catch!👍
The louvers were partially open. Some oil would have flowed through them. Any excess restriction would cause the bypass to open. So, would that have destroyed the engine? No, but you'd have an oil change worth of poor filtering.
The most worrisome part of this to me would be if the louvers release metal fragments into the "clean" side of the oil. THAT could have damaged the engine, and you'd have virtually no way to prove that it was Bosch's fault.
Bosch definitely owes the user community a response. I've just removed Bosch from my vendor list for oil filters.
I have a couple of those same filters for my Corolla. Should have stayed with the Toyota filter. I never thought of looking at the inside holes.
Just had this issue on a WIX 57002 (made in Mexico) yesterday. Caught it before installation!! Other WIX designs I've used are excellent. No more louvered filter designs for me.
I just looked through a pile of Bosch 3500 filters (same size as Ford FL1a and Fram PH8a) that I bought. I use them in several vehicles. Out of 28 Bosch 3500, 17 had louvers and 11 had drilled holes. The date code on filters is greek so I can’t tell which ones are newer. I used one of these Bosch 3500 filter on my 1994 Nissan Pathfinder as I use a remote oil filter setup. I failed emissions last week in AZ. I was told that dirty old oil can cause you to fail. So I changed it after just 2,000 miles. Oil was BLACK AF. I thought I had a plugged EGR etc. Just spent 30 minutes digging through the trash. The one I pulled off of Pathfinder was louvered! I ordered an oil filter cutter last week after watching a bunch of these videos. I will take it apart and see. Louvers look kinda closed from outside but not sure if that is the black oil causing it to only look closed. Stay tuned…
Send me your reply if you can . I would like to see what you find.
Thank you
Let me know what you find out, Thanks!
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I recently bought a Bosch 3311 Premium oil filter from Home Depot online for $6 plus tax with free shipping, made in Mexico. Yes, Home Depot. Apparently, they sell a limited line of auto parts online. Parts are hit & miss. Anyway, the same thing happened to me. I looked inside, and most of the louvers looked closed. I returned it to my local store. I wound up buying a dozen Champ 2840XL oil filters on Rock Auto. $3.47 each plus $10.99 shipping plus 6% tax, $55.79 total or $4.65 each, bottom line. I've watched MANY of your videos and Champ XL seems like the most bang for the buck to me for my 2001 Toyota Echo with 214,000 miles on it. Automatic 4 speed and I still get around 40 mpg highway. Runs like a top.
Hi Biff
Yep, RockAuto's oil filters are reasonable and if you buy a bunch as you did it offsets the shipping cost.
Thanks for Sharing👍
Quality control. I mean you've seen the areas they make some oil filters. Not only dirty conditions but they just assemble without looking if the parts are ok. Maybe call or email the company and refer them to your video?
That's a good catch! I always prefer a nylon cage to perforated metal, and now I have another reason.
I hate louvers, but hey probably saves them a nickel every 10,000 they make so bean counters will count.
Very interesting and informative! Good catch! TFS Merri :)
Hi Merri,
Thanks, have a great week👍
Back in late 2000s to about 2014 that Bosch and M1 Extended were identical.
I think it may have been before 2014. Bosch used to be made by Champ Labs but that was before Bosch and Mann both bought Purolator from Arvin Meritor back in 2006. After that Bosch US made by Purolator.
@@faxmen09 Hard to tell. Bought the last ones for that vehicle both on sale for 5.77 from Oreillys March 2014. They looked the same as all the ones prior. 8.1 Big block filters.
@@GT-mn3bx Without seeing can't definitively say, but after the 06 purchase of Purolator, the ones I've seen, Bosch moved to Puro made.
Huh, that's the filter I use and interestingly enough my oil pressure dropped 5 or 6 PSI after my last oil change. It's not low but now I'm wondering if I should replace it anyway
Maybe your old filter was plugged.
@@GT-mn3bx no, it had always been a certain pressure at a temp & RPM since I bought the car new. Always used the same oil and changed every 5k.
So it was this last filter.
Note I went out after posting and changed the filter with a new Bosch I had on the shelf for the next oil change (didn't change the oil, just replaced the filter 'early' )
Drove the car to warm it up and check and see I regained the missing oil pressure - so it WAS something about the filter!
Get open style cage nice free flow design be safe not sorry
I been looking inside them for a long time. Final QC is on the end user.
another great Mann & Hummel products! 😆
I notice wix Xp now has this design instead of round holes
Would you even put it on your riding mower? I'm sure we have one sitting around with crappy louvers.
Great video and great catch! I've always looked in the filter for trash or debris. But this is something new to look out for. Thanks!
Even the good filter didn't look all that free flowing and it isn't easy seeing inside an oil filter to start with.
Maybe a reason to prefer cartridge style?
You would think their quality control would have caught that. Another view from the outside with the light shining inside would be interesting.
What are the disadvantages of louvers vs holes?
None, if they are opened up
Pandemic build quality?!? A lot of stuff has had a declining build quality since the pandemic. I had a helluva time to get a new working fridge last year and they were made in Mexico as well.
YEP. America took a hellish hit from that COVID catastrophe. Too bad that NOTHING was done until President Joe Biden took control.
American-made appliances (Refrigerators, Stoves, Washing Machines, TVs), and just about ALL manufactured goods are no longer made here.
Americans refused to work for slave wages, so THE MANUFACTURERS SENT OUR JOBS to "3rd World" countries.
Fortunately, President Biden also signed into law the "CHIPS Act", which brings Chip-making jobs BACK to America's shores.
Baldwin, Stp, & pro tec filters have louvers too now.
& so do k&n and purolator
Average of what I’d expect from a Bosch product even if they don’t produce it. Never had much luck with their products.
Gotta put in on a test machine on every oil change. WTF.
Some times people all ways go for most expensive filters the more the higher filter rating some times you get low flow but super tech ac Delco motor craft every 3000 or 3500 max you usually never end up with problems
I seen 2 Bosch filters with suspect closed holes, complained to Bosch & then promptly crushed both Bosch oil filters in the filter crusher instead of returning them to the autoparts store where they would have ended back up on the shelf & destroy someone else's engine.....these should have not gotten past quality control at the factory....but then again it's a Mexican factory
Anything made in Mexico or China is suspect
Blaming the problem on a Mexican factory is stupid! You obviously don't know anything about quality control prosses in an automated mass manufacturing facility. Do you think they pay some flunkie to sit there and personally EYE BALL every cage. They stamp out tens of thousands of those things in an hour and even computers don't catch all the problems.
The "but then again" portion says it all.
Fake Bosch filters
@@Haffschlappe ,they was original Bosch filters that was made in Mexico & was sold thru legitimate parts suppliers thru Bosch for the North American market,Bosch even refunded the purchases & took the information off the filter that I took pictures of ,they also sent me a jobber pack of 12 replacement filters a few weeks later
Things like this are the reason I went to K&P Engineering reusable filters.
@@faxmen09 What are you talking about?
Never was a fan of louvers. Prefer holes or even better those nylon cage center tubes. High flowing.
I hope fram motor craft don't have this problem 😬
Thanks to Mr. Anon Y. Mous that he found this. I will bash Bosch for having their filters made in Mexico to save money. It can happen to anyone, but more likely with items made in China and Mexico.
Yeah, I'm not a zealot about it, but the move from made in US to hencho en Mexico, not a change for the better.
Wasn’t easy to see either. Not good.
It’s upside down
Screw worrying about bashing Bosch. That filter could ruin your 100k truck in hurry. Dang that's scary in 30 years I have never checked that. I will be now.
Not good. That would definitely hinder oil flow, and starve the engine for lubrication. I’m not a fan of louvers, and I always check to make sure the louvers are open before I put it on my car/truck.
Good show.. Crap filter again poor quality control
Michael Herrell
Very interesting. No flow.
Quality control is sad. I would not expect this from Bosch, but being made in Mexico, i guess it is to be expected.
Installing an oil filter like this could cost someone an engine. Videos like this emphasize the importance of at least glancing over and checking the filter's construction. On top of that, I see the sloppy glue...prices go up, quality goes down. Probably a new factory in MX as these filters were made in the USA before.
To me, there isn’t a product that Bosch makes that I trust… other than trust inconsistencies and failure rates!
Wonder why the guy didn't just return it and get refunded? I'll stick with the plastic cage ACDELCO.
Good question.
Those are 6-8 bucks. Honeslty, probably would have sent to Pete Also.
He wanted to let Bosch know about it and they basically ignored him so he gave it to me so that I could inform all that watch the channel.
Maybe I should send you my used one that I mentioned in comments…
Still seems very odd not to return it to the seller for a refund. I'm now thinking a sketchy seller like ebay and the filter may be counterfeit. Media color different on both filters. Suspicious if nothing else.