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In Part Two of the five-part series, we get a crash course in how to be a professional commentator-or "shoutcaster"-at the studios of one of the most popular eSports TH-cam channels. After that, Matt gets his brain zapped by a neuropsychiatrist at one of South Korea's gaming addiction rehab centers, and we try on character costumes at the HQ of the country's best cosplay team.
Today, there are more people in the world who play the online multiplayer battle game League of Legends than there are people who live in France. We wanted to see how humanity got to this point, so VICE host Matt Shea flew to South Korea, a country where competitive gaming-also known as eSports-can either make you rich and famous or land you in rehab.
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In Part 2 we meet a neuropsychiatrist at one of South Korea's gaming addiction rehab centers, and try on character costumes at the HQ of the country's best cosplay team.
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spixe lated When what you do for fun becomes a job there's a pretty big shift. No longer are you doing something because you want to, but because you have to. There is a problem if the majority of your existence revolves around doing something for fun.
spixe lated I can't say I haven't experienced what he was talking about. When you only play for satisfaction, it's like you're feeding an addiction. I remember I had way greater feelings of "addiction" for games when I was playing single player games or doing grinding and gear farming stuff in MMOs and getting the satisfaction of leveling up, getting new gear, getting to new sections of the game, basically doing what the game was designed for and it sets off my reward centres etc... whereas if I picked up a competitive game and wanted to get better I actually needed to be focused and play with more purpose in each session. It can also be a more collaborative thing where you have to participate in a community and you can discuss/talk about what to do in certain situations, where you need to build up more advanced game knowledge and practice things beforehand.
+VICE UM dude, koreas nationall esport is sc2, NOT LEAGUE OF LEGENDS N00b
+VICE Computer games are fuking awsome
1 year later and esports in America draws in more viewers than the nba championships
I wish.
yh but it still won't be regarded as a sport
MK ULTRA SOLDIER II Except that there is an esport competition on us tv
Diiego Haro lmao thats just straight up false
1) It's true that League of Legends WORLDS 2017 racked up 280 million LIVE viewers, not counting how many re-watched it on the re-broadcast 4 hours later, basically it would total to about 500-600 Million people watched WORLDS 2017, while only 90 if not 70 Million watched the NBA finals. 2) League of Legends Championships are streamed through ESPN (An American US Sports Television network) Twitch, TH-cam and other big streaming platforms in China + others. 3) The US Government and the EU Union + around 90% of Asia agrees that E-Sports are infact sports. 4) E-Sports is by far the most viewed and biggest sport in Asia, as this year (2018) The Asian Olympic Games will host E-Sports for the first time, with a prize pool of I BELIEVE 25 Million.
As someone with an extensive education in neuroscience, I can assure you that this "rehab" is 100% bat-shit quackery.
JBV UMW What would be the right way to cure Internet Addiction?
I have absolutely no degree, and could have told you it was absolute bullshit.
lol.. I don't really know about shocking the patients but I do know addiction has to do with the reward pathway from Areas 8-10 of cortex. The way he was shocking the guy, it did look as though he was shocking the insular cortex. Saying it 100% quackery would be kinda harsh, but maybe they should show brain scans before and after and show proof that it works before testing on live people first. I would really be worried if it fucked up some other part of brain functions. However, I do agree with the doc saying internet addiction should be more about controlling use of internet instead of stopping its use. Maybe they should find them a better hobby lol
ya, the worse part is this is actually a governement sponsored program, not some kook with no credibility.
***** i would say... i dont know... maybe the ADDICTION part. addicted people normaly cant just stop whatever they are addicted too.
The interviewer seems like he doesn't even want to be there, they should have got someone else to do it. I mean just cause he doesn't like league of legends doesn't mean there isn't someone else who does. This was an opportunity, others would have loved.(I don't even like esports but still disappointing)
Agree, this documentary was really interesting, but it gets annoying that this host just tries to mock the whole thing whenever he can.
Well no shit the "doctor" is shocking kids brains
Someone who loved gaming wouldve been terrible for an objective documentary which is vices style.
ThePhobiaCrew He's being subjective by showing disdain. Being objective means being neutral.
***** he is being objective you dunce. What disdain is he showing? He hasnt shared a negative opinion just been reactive as youd expect of someone new to the medium.
Video game addiction isn't the problem, the problem is all those Asian parents who push their kids to far and threaten to excommunicate their child if they don't become succesfull and rich doctors and lawyers. I'd probably snap to. The internet is a good place to seek shelter, forget about problems and find social contact with others who feel the same way.
You don't have to fix the kids, fix the parents and the kids will be fine.
ik im late but i truly agree with u. im from south east asia and my parents keep telling me to stop using my phone even during quarantine with online classess but they dont know what i want to do when i grow so i found internet as a form of heaven
"do have a another plan if gaming doesnt work out?" asks a VICE reporter
There League abilities will sure be able to fend of North Korea
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Why search for a battle? Having this fucking mentality just screws up the world. The problems between countries are serious, but still unnecessary. If everyone would play games instead we would have so much less violence.
Vanheden Lysande Sickan you need to learn how to interwebs
this was obviously a satirical comment
Is pulse isreal a zionist knight? oh vice youre so crazy
EMCE BANANA WTF hahaha , he said pulse ezreal
lol you got that one too eh
XD
3:40 You can't say "a good gg". It's like telling a good good game
Lichachron hmm, you know how spiteful players throw bile at losers in team games with random matchmaking by saying " gg" when by any standards it wasn't a good game, more like a noob stomping with spawncamping, ect? So that would be a "bad gg". Haha.
"Internet addiction"... just because they play too much games. But, unlike here, over there you can actually make a living from playing those games. So it's almost like saying someone is training too much for Football or Basketball and should be put in rehab.
But I can see why you'd want to limit kids, they'll take it too far.
Except that football and basketball are physical exercise and are very healthy...
Except if you play physical sports a boogaloo tribal doctor won't FRY YOUR FUCKING BRAIN. Thanks Lord i live in a European country where these korean "medical" treatments are illegal.
kodymelba Except studies have found out Football is anything but healthy, and will probably lead to you getting brain problems down the line.
Totally, well known risk from football is brain damage. Yep, hear THAT one all the time.... (Wtf)
Jarekx2007 And what about basketball? You gonna list a down side to that one?
i stopped gaming when i was 16 years old. i was fine at first but i started to have withdrawal systems. I felt giddy at times and even un-content with myself. Felt like i was wasting, had difficulty staying awake even when i slept a full 7-9 hours of sleep. So i turned to drugs, thanks to drugs i am no longer addicted gaming. Thank you drugs for turning my life around
Wtf lmao
congrats???? lol
same with me bro, drugs and pussy are the best cure for gaming addiction
mee to ahahaha drugs >>> games
You're pathetic if you think drugs are any better than gaming -.-
12:55 "Is he like a Zionist Knight" LMAOOOOO
FUCKING DEAD
+Mike Messiah lmao
+Mike Messiah I died. That was funny
I must go to korea, this is gamer heaven.
The Exile yes it is if you could speak Korean lol
The Exile the
Lol
Im so tired of everyone tryingg league of legends to every gamer like its the only game out there that is played and used in esports
+Bob Joe the reason being is that its the most popular game in the world, hence why they stress more on the topic of League of Legends. But I do agree with you, they need to be wayy more diverse rather thanonly talking bout league
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Dota 2 and CSGO are the best yo
I just realized my son trolled lol
This is really cool! Good to see a good interviewer with a good sense of humor!
i used to be addicted to gaming, then i got bored of it. Its like eating the same food everyday i dont understand how people become permanently addicted
bcus of external reasons , not for the game itself
This is a great series I wish it was longer than 5 episodes
Sad to see that still in 2015 we have such ignorant twats that can't learn to see the difference from the time when they grew up and how it looks now. Science and a common sense says that playing video-games is much more profitable, better and less dangerous than drinking alcohol or any of that toxic drug liquid. It's the future.
I remember the good old MLG days when competitive gaming was at its prime. HALO 2 was just searing off when HALO 3 came into works. I can honestly say as a huge nerd, i spent 12-15 hours hours a day for about 2 months playing that game. Yes, i did become semi-pro and made a bunch of great friends. But the long term effects by these algorithmic plays on the REM cycle is irreversible. I still dream of tower of power on ascension...yeah im a nerd! Come at me!
actually if you look at the numbers currently Esports currently is at its prime and it constantly keeps going up
ahh, the human race...what a nasty breed of species.
Bro I agree back before cod newbs back when mlg was halo 2 n 3
Obi Wan Cannoli My brother got recon armour for playing for over 17 hhours straight on bungie day.
Sandwich247 Holy shit i remember that was a really big deal with bungie and the flaming recon helmet. Had to be one the greats!
He has like an half american half British accent. I love it!
was just thinking the exact same
Four Seven Haha XD
He sounds like a British guy trying to sound like an American dudebro.
Hansi Hinterseer Was? XD
Hansi Hinterseer Haha XD
I love how there was an ad for a game. That’s like a beer ad for a documentary for alcohol addiction.
the "reporter" is insufferable . interesting doc though
+jesse faryniasz i like him
+Bruno Paulino nt "reporter"
gay too
This whole thing has left me speechless. I want to comment my ass off but where do you begin?....Speechless!
Have these people ever heard of that thing called nature, it's great!
i've heard it's scary
cmhonsu33 What's that? should I google this?
They need pussy
JETLIFE Richard there is heaps on reddit
JETLIFE Richard
Tons of it
Haha. Did the host actually say "Good gg" ?
Thank goodness you have a promising career in journalism. Girls might find that more attractive than someone lost in hours of gaming.
"A gaming rehab clinic" only in Korea, lol.
As a major gamer myself I never realized that gaming experience as so over the top insane in south Korea.
Pulse Ezreal the zionist knight
The whole time i'm watching the addiction thing i'm just like: "Brah couldn't it just be that games are fun as fuck and more people wanna make a profession in gaming?"
Is it just me or does the interviewer remind anyone of Harry Potter?
Vice, good on ya for covering this. E-Sports is a thing thats going to be MASSIVE in teh future, not that isnt huge right now. Down the line you'll have it on TV's all over the world. there will be 50 million dollar tourneys being played. It's literally like any other sport out there. Only difference the atheles arent required to have good physical abillites but they have to be really good mentaly and quick on their fingers. people who dont say its a sport, clearly haven't played at a high level. I was a semi competetive player (semi meaing i didnt do it for a living but made money off of it). I played about 6 hours a day while working out + working part time. You really have to dedicate alot of time to it.
Called "e-sports", covering only LoL..
okay.. -.-
minecraft XDDDD
The Bias In Here of Internet Addiction is fascinating especially After Seeing So Many International Nations Push So Hard not Just For their Government & Private companies to Transform Digitally.....the Whole Demonized Usage of Internet as a Something For A Profit Is FINE.....But For Me I'm Always Adapting.
Setting Standards Will Include so many other factors like the Evolution of Family Unit and Even Children's Growth & Development. So I'm Just Excited to See that The Evolution in Modern Society is Thriving At A Rapid Pace that would Make Anyone who isn't Aware...in the least become a little bit more aware
i find this guy's mixture of american and british accent to be at times funny and at times super irritating.
It's usually somewhere in Korea or China where there's insane story of video game addiction at internet cafes. I've read a story when parents left a baby starve to death. They game hard
I have internet addiction. If only I was good at cs:go i could try to go pro. But i have no hope
XD What rank are you?
First to see this awesome article. Thanks Vice. loved the 5 part series last night.
I mean Nadeshot, the cod player from the US is pulling Jen Selter
lmao the last part got me "computer games are fucking awesome"
Cyber Punk Kurt Cobain fk yeah!!
Yeah that had me cracking up
That doctor using those weird alternative treatments is going to end up creating a real life version of Sword Art Online
12:31 She speaks like a Singaporean
thnkxfor this awsome documentary
"internet addiction..." give me a break. GO OUTSIDE AND READ A FUCKING BOOK OR SOMETHING. i understand that addictions can form in adulthood, but how were these people parented? i'm not a doctor, but it's my personal belief people with addictions can stem from problems with parenting or in childhood. but with things like this, gamers most likely start when they're kids, so i'm just curious how or why their parents didn't limit or watch their gaming to circumvent problems in later life
***** I think you would find most kids that have gaming addictions later in life were denied access when they were younger. If you like doing something getting someone else to take it away will not stop you wanting to do it and once you have the freedom to do whatever you want you will do it in excess. A friend of mine that I grew up with had this exact issue. To stop an addiction the addict needs to actually want to stop.
I have been gaming since I could remember, I never had the problem to where I felt forced to be on the internet or play video games. This whole addiction thing is bullshit.
i stopped reading after "i'm not a doctor but it's my personal belief"...
***** People can become addicted to anything. Its got nothing to do with gaming itself, its how some people have lack of self control.
killercaos123 fun fact: you can have opinions or experience on things even if you're not educated in a field. crazy right? but i guess i'm not allowed to have experience or any say on things like how doctors can fuck you up on "medication" from growing up with my adhd nephew and seeing how his pills only made him worse or watching first hand how drug addiction can destroy people mentally, physically, and divide families. what would i know about those topics anyway. i've seen people go through addiction late in life and early and like i said, i know it can have a later onset, but this gaming addiction is shit brought on by the media and what koreans think is important
When you stop gaming after a free day spent in front of the pc and you realize there's no button needed to step up and walk. That's the most of addiction i've experimented, ahah
What's his name?
Pulse Israel.
Cool, is he like a Zionist knight?
LOL
I'ts hard even for me to imagine what it would be like to be so heavily invested, possibly addicted, in games to this level of an extreme. I've been an online gamer since the mid 90's. I started with games like Diablo 1, and Command and Conquer. My gamer tag has been around in one variation or another longer than a many of gamers I play with have been alive. I've had over a year of in-game time in World of Warcraft alone. I've held top in game rankings on Xbox, Play station, and PC games. Most people would call it abnormal, possibly an addiction, but I've always been able to walk away. Rarely ever have I avoided social situations in reality in preference to my games. There have been times I've played a game for 15-16 hours in a day. I cut back a lot recently, down to maybe 45 minutes a day average. All that being said, I wonder what a comparison between my brain and one of a none gamer would show. I'd never submit to any form of shock therapy to "fix" anything, I am who I am, and it's never prevented me from living the rest of my life.
I dunno personally I think asymetrical PC games take far more skill, the playing field is much more level. Things like 'gear', 'characters' and other features are much more basic and do not require much to obtain. Yes you can carry on LoL and do a lot as a single player, but in a FPS a engagement (pvp) is very quickly determined on skill level. In general a amazing player with good reaction, macro/micro etc can be countered in LoL or RPG games by things such as gear, line of sight and skills that can deny frags.
The typical GOOD fps has MANY ways to respond to strategize so that skill does not guarantee a win. It's not just a feature of LoL or an RPG but of any good PC game. The difference between LoL and CS is that the choices are just not as visible but they are there nonetheless.
When 1v1ing my brother in CS 1.6 waaay back in the day. I had to plan ahead and strategize so that I was in an advantageous position BEFORE I ran into him on the map because his pure aimskill was insane and I had a cheap, shitty mouse lol.
Camped, Footsteps, Smoke/flashbangs and used MP5 and pump shotty only. Won most the time. Called me a no-skill shitter which I was but guess what...
Art of War Chapter 1.
_The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought._
Is it FUN to play like that? Fuck no. But a good warrior doesn't do what he wants, but what he *must*, to win.
Besides noone can design a game where it where pure skill = winning. It would have to limit the player choice and if noone could strategize against skill then every match would be a one sided stomp and nobody would play that game.
Learn the difference between "a" and "an", please.
Although it will never be as big as an actual sport, it's growing everywhere. South Korea is just ahead of everyone... Call of Duty is HUGE in the US for E-Sports, Europe is CSGO, and Things like League and World of Warcraft just seem to be universal in terms of popularity. It's just insane how sitting behind a monitor can bring such glory. I mean I fall guilty to playing competitive COD, even though I'm on pace to play college baseball, but that's not the point. I'm saying, if me an ATHLETE can have a ton of fun with competitive games, it doesn't surprise me that a large part of the population that is not involved in any extensive extra-curricular activity falls into the trap too. But hey, it's fun! So don't be surprised to see MASSIVE growth in the coming years around the globe to the competitive gaming industry.
"A good GG"? A good good game?
9:00 if I was shown Dungeon Fighter with those insane combos, flashing numbers, and skillful PVP I'd have the urge. Who wouldn't?
this man is so negative lmafo
i laughed when the guy in 1:42 said yadaaaaa....
Oh Vice, it's funny how you interpret the journalist's part but put captions for the Koreans. We DON'T like reading!
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Man, it's hard for me understand what english speakers are saying.. Thanks Vice to put CC!
'and we also have live chatting going on so the viewers can talk about the game that's going on' Kappa
What is the world coming to?
Something cool.
Happyrazz swag
***** Your picture looks a bit like ISIS' flag when it's that small....
Obvious old idiot here. Please follow the future. Video games are enforcing entertainment and technology. It's not violent and doesn't cause problems like alcohol does.
Vanheden Lysande Sickan You don't have to insult others to convey your thoughts. In fact to do so diminishes your points.
fucking shock therapy 100 years from now we will look back on this and be ashamed of what we did to each other.
I seriously don't understand why LoL is so popular. This is a decent Vice doc so far, though.
It's addicting and fun. It has a terrible comunity though, that's the only thing I hate about it :(
Edgar Ordaz Console Noob
7:40 Playing something for 50 hours straight without sleep is not at all an unusual, noteworthy, or dangerous situation. (See documentaries on Fatal Filial Insomnia; People survive for months without sleep before they die.) The guy must have had some other health complications... possibly associated with his irregular devotion to his gaming.
what if S.korea got EMPd?
Ben Pollard Then their protoss units will lose their shields and energies
I keep thinking of Athelstan from Vikings when seeing this guy :p
I see virgins virgins everywhere
What if I'm not addicted to gaming but addicted to watching people play games competitively.
"LoL" @ no life plans if pro gaming doesn't work out XD
+ZBdude149 Lol yeah that dude was like "hmm never thought of that" but tbh hes probably fine, league is only growing
+Sko Bird no, lol it's dieing
Ben Au-yeung Depends how you look at it, They're making more money then ever before so idk how you come up with that statement. ??
if anything DotA and CS:GO are dieing, LoL still has the biggest concurrent playerbase, the most daily logins and the most revenue out of any game in the world (and its a free game). I honestly don't have an explanation for your statement other than the fact that you play DotA or CSGO and you are really mad that people are starting to realize those games are shit.
imsokka
Do you seriously have this statement at 2018?
People 3 years ago obviously couldn't predict if league would keep growing or not.
Fortnite is nearly topping the most played game ever because how popular it is at the moment. LoL and Minecraft have been out longer, which means they have more downloads & players. But they fail to strive their popularity over the years which means less players play those games. Fortnite is growing at a much faster rate than those games did years ago.
How can u talk about league dota and csgo which are all dead games compared to fortnite?
And don't think I'm a fortnite fanboy i used to be pretty high rank back at s4 on league but this is the truth about popularity right now..
You guys know that there is a solution to game addictions in every country, it's called YOUR MOM.
This guys voice triggers me
he pisses me off
is he south african or from the us? like wtf
+Luke van Lint he says in this video that he grew up in the UK and the US
Drew B Good
Korea is so advanced in so many ways, i'm not talking about e-Sports but in general.
Screw L.O.L
Play W.o.w♡
Ya noobs >...>
What casul scrubs, play the Soul's series :^)
both are dumb as hell
Ah ha.
No >..>
Maybe to someone who's not into fantasy and playing with it.
Sir Douchenic von Bag More like play Quake at a professional level, gaylords.
All the casul scrubs need to git good :^)
i'm addicted to watching vice videos; better pass some legislation
E-sports will never be as big as actual sport
2013 League World Championship had more viewers than the NBA Finals and the World Series of the same year, so clearly it already is.
It already is larger lol. I'm sorry but this isn't 1995, please wake up.
If the demographics of esports is of old people. Yeah. But these things are more big to younger generations if you want to exclude them. -An actual Intelligent reply
Sports have been around for decades while gaming has been around for less than a decade. It's pretty obvious
That is what they said about the television, that it will never take over the radio. Good luck in the future
i gotta say, their costumes are awesome
People should understand that the internet is absolutely everywhere in korea. No suprise people become addicted my mother is one of them who needs to go on her korean sites all the time and gets mad when shes to long away from internet
Love this documentary, I also really like how positive Matt is.
i think their president cosplaying league of legends is totally badass
D1 is the best commentator that ever lived in gaming.
Super interesting man, nice job. What a weird world we live in. I'm a huge fan of gaming and I still find this shit pretty mental
1:42 is basically the Co Optional Podcast
I stopped drugs when I was 7 heroin just didn’t feel that good I started playing LoL now I have autism and I watch Tyler1s stream every day thx gaming
You guys should've covered CS:GO @ Katowice, poland.. :D
That Korean doctor just doesn't want people to take away from the GNP. It is so translucent. He says that professional gamers that contribute to society are not addicted to video games but people who just play for fun are. Wow
People complain about the fact the 'interviewer' was not the right pick or seems out of place within this world. I personally love the clashing of worlds. All our hobbies could be perceived as weird, and its all the more entertaining when put into perspective through that contrast of another individual's perception of it all.
This is why eSports will never hit the general public as hard as for instance soccer. the way you kids are spamming this chat is just ruining the whole experience for a grown man. Seriously. Grow up
That ezreal and azir cosplay was pretty dope
Don't worry, I'm working on a brain scan that will be able to distinguish between a normal and a mentally deranged neuroscientist.
I don't see how watching video games on a tv and not having the urge to play the game yourself if a sign you are cured. I don't have the urge to play games if I see someone else playing them even though I play games myself for a good portion of each day.
i like the ending quote.
thanks for a cool reporter, vice.
(im not only like this because he said something positive about my passion, but also because you can see he was unbaised throughout the whole video and didnt judge before getting some information from both sides of the spectrum. cool video.)
(oh and that doctor frying people's brains should probably like, stop working as a doctor.)
They chose the right person for this documentary. He is not shoving his opinion down the viewers throat. He also seems to be normal, and not some cringe worthy fedora tipper.
sigh, it's sad to think that people don't have backup plans if thing don't go their way, especially if the chance of making it in so slim.
That magnetic shock treatment is like something from the beginning of the last century!
its an interesting distinction that the Doctor makes. having a long term goal of becoming objectively competent as opposed to an immediate goal of "escapism".
Gosh, I love him so much.
i really want to get into games like i did when i was younger. but i just can't take video games seriously anymore. i feel so stupid when i play games now.
13:00 pulse-israel ..... "is he like a zionist knight?" LMFAO
That Curt Cobain comment was so true. lol
Vice should've used a host who knew about the game intensively. Out of the handful of hosts in their arsenal they chose one that didn't know much about League.
Man the segment host does not look happy making this documentary lol He really wants to go back home and chill with his buddies i can tell
i stopped gaming when i was 16 years old. i was fine at first but i started to have withdrawal systems. I felt giddy at times and even un-content with myself. Felt like i was wasting, had difficulty staying awake even when i slept a full 7-9 hours of sleep. So i turned to drugs, thanks to drugs i am no longer addicted gaming. Thank you drugs for turning my life around.
NitroCorn someone copy/pasted your comment and got like 30 likes, feel the pain guy.
Mister F hahaha damm
NitroCorn Wow literally the same thing as me.. I developed what I would consider, a healthy level of illicit drug use.
you're still addicted to internet. And now drugs.
TheDiamond123123 Me?
12:25 my mom when she comes in my room ;_;
Cyberpunk Kurt Cobain ults to steal baron.
In chat" A DENIAL A DENIAL A DENIAL"