Step 1: Fire Austin, Nix, and OL coach. Step 2: Hire an actual OC that can coach, develop competent game plans, and call plays. Step 3: Put Freeze in charge of recruiting only. Step 4: Hire competent replacements for Austin and OL coach. Otherwise, Auburn is sitting in a similar spot next year with Freeze headed out the door.
Last year, we kept trying to generate fake buzz around these mid to below average QBs from weaker conferences. Cam Ward was a lock, and we passed. Either spend money on a proven commodity with heisman potential or develop what you have, but pretending moss or salter is an upgrade is dumb
@@Anonymous1.1.1.1 preach that’s Auburn for you they will never get it! We have to stop thinking the mid level QBS will make a difference go get someone who make a difference not another PEYTON THRONE OR SOMEONE WHO SIMILAR WE NEED A BROTHA UNDER CENTER
Can Ward was not a lock. Charlie 5 actually went over this a couple days ago. This has been rumored for a while but heard from quite a few online talking heads that it was never even close.
Cam was not a lock. He put out a post saying he was going to the draft so Auburn stopped pursuing him and then a couple of days later he came out and said he was taking his name out of the draft and was transferring to Miami
17:24 Zac, sometimes your takes be spot on and others you just completely miss. J Cobb and D Alston are in a perfect position to take over RB1. They were competing with arguably the best back in the country for carries, now that hes gone, more touches for them.
I usually agree with you guys but Running back is the least of my worries, I actually think Justin Jones and Sean Jackson are better than given credit and are big backs that are harder to bring down and I don't think Damari nor Jeremiah are going anywhere Camden Brown loves Auburn and I think he stays as well
I think Sean Jackson could be a great short yardage RB, but he was not even on the roaster this year until August. I think he was going to take an off the field support role, but with the Battie situation, he stepped in for another body in the room. Not sure if he is interested in playing much.
Hugh Freeze better not screw this up. I'd rather have Salter or Rickie Collins from LSU before Miller. Miller would throw picks for the record books. Auburn needs a bigger, more mobile QB. That's it.
@@pickesc 43 out of 53 games thorn throws a pick. When you include freshman garbage time and all the cupcake teams through 5 years that’s basically an interception in every game that matters.
A RADICAL IDEA....lets train Walker White how to read a defense and make decisions...spend the next 30 weeks on this (should be enuf)...unless Zach/Kyle think that Hugh is incapable of teaching a young QB...which then begs the question of why even recruit a QB from high school...lets go with transfers every year and save 4 scholarships/NIL. in that case, transfers for every position with no recruting (the potato-head approach to rosters). Teach, train, mentor and coach up the freshmen....focus on what you can control. thankfully my Chemical Engineering Professors taught me the fundamentals of chemical engineering and engineering/business in general so that I could prosper in my career. At least someone at the University believes in teaching the high schooler...instead of rent-a-person. Never once have I heard an "informed person" say that the next 8 months should be spent on teaching, teaching, teaching the roster you have....what/why are these channels so against teaching high schoolers??? (they hate 18 yr olders...17 yr olds are ok (ryan williams))
@@adampaseur1190 True, however, I was taught starting day 1 with freshman math, chemistry, etc...not just sitting in the back of the class with my finger doing something. relying on portal means that teaching is secondary (if that much) and we're going to hope that a D2 school or some other program took a freshman and taught him for a year or two before he comes to AU. we ain't in the business of recruiting high schoolers consistently and teaching them for a yr or two before we start them on the field....that's some else's job. so the QB whisperer can't whisper anymore??? gone mute???
Miller Moss is equivalent to Peyton Thorne. If he can’t be successful in Lincoln Riley he definitely will not be under Hugh Freeze. I like Kaidon Salter but again I don’t see him being the answer. Also Walker White is going to be ready, and Both Running Backs will stay Demari is a senior and Cobb will be a junior. I think they could be a great 1-2 punch
Maybe Auburn should be hiring the WaSt OC to double down on Mateer cuz from what i saw this year they need someone who knows how freakin create and execute an offensive gameplan. If Im a top transfer QB and have been watching Auburn the last two years I dont think theres enough money to convince me to sign up to play in that offense.
Mateer is the only one to go after.If not him develop Walker Hank and Duece and maybe get Salter or backup experienced QB.that’s if Hank stays otherwise you have to pick up another QB from JC HS or portal.
@cameroncarr2293 mateer put up a whopping 14 points in a loss to 3-9 Wyoming on Saturday. Played one of the weakest P4 SOS and dropped 4 games while looking extremely unimpressive in multiple games against G5 schools. I could keep listing reasons why it's embarrassing to consider him or Miller moss but Auburn fans are so down bad they would consider Mateer to lead them against an sec schedule 😂
@@Anonymous1.1.1.1 Well Moss has wins vs Michigan and LSU, but I dont want him. Still think with right weapons Mateer would do fine for 1season at Auburn
Truth be told, we need a great inside lineman also another edge 2 good backers and two more corners (Defense). OT and another guard, another outside WR, TE, maybe 2 RBs. Most OF ALL 😂 A DANG DUAL THREAT QB that’s accurate at least 71 comp%.
I gotta be honest, Miller Moss reminds me too much of Payton Thorne. He turned the ball over at CRITICAL times at USC. I have NO FAITH at all that auburn can fix a QB. We need to spend money and get a proven one like Mateer.
@bobcanon8032 makes a great point below. To summarize...why does he need a portal qb 'savior' when he has two top-five qb's in the room? Is it the Auburn QB curse?
Matter goes to OU with wash,st, coach-MOSS WILL GREAT ANYWHERE, Fatilia from Arizona U. very good player,Salter knows head coach at Auburn, Arnold some question, following be NFL Hooper,tcu, king,Georgia tech, Johnson,Kansas st. Weighmon TXAM ?? Moss was made scape goat at USC he really didnplay that poorly end of season, see Wash.U game not that bad. Other games he was outstandingas been a top passer from a good high school program and took a Heisman Trophy Qb to keep him on bench.
You had basically 3 WR's playing most of the time. You got 3 coming in. You don't have enough balls to go around as it is. No point in a transfer unless you get KLS 2.0. RB is deep with the 2 we have plus incoming freshman. We couldn't get enough touches for Jarquez. No point in a transfer RB especially if we get Ouzman. I just don't get your infatuation with the portal. Hell if we have the money we can go Bear Bryant and take everybody so nobody else gets them, but I don't see it. Wasn't there someone named Babaloa coming here, Cutter Woods, Turbo? LOL
He did. It's his guy. He also recruited Hank Brown to Liberty. The commonality being he recruited them to... Liberty. Should Auburn be pulling in kids at that level to play QB?
I don't understand y'all. Why do you think everyone who isn't one of the top dawgs are gonna leave. These are Auburn men and Freeze is about to schock all of y'all on the amount of players he keeps, and the class he brings in. Y'all call me crazy. 12/3/2024 I Jacob Lott put it on record we win 8 games next years. All the haters, come at me. Let's go War Damn Eagle
Well it’s amazing kyle when he actually wins some games lol. C’mon guy. Billy actually showed that his team could go out and win some games and imagine that get bowl eligible with one of the toughest sched in the country.
I’m done trying to hype up someone to be better than what they’ve proven. Get whoever you get, but let’s not boog anymore about them and call a spade a spade.
Hopefully every time he makes a mistake fans will make fun of him and his name and his acne and dad’s money. If he ever wins maybe Auburn fans could still complain and give him no credit and even if he sets records hopefully he transfers and Auburn fans hate him then he succeeds even more.
If we go down this path, Miller "Lost" will get HF fired, he's a ludicrous choice with no experience, 24, his Junior year, with one previous game in his life at QB in 23, he went 4-5 before he was benched, in his 9th game, with his vast starting experience, he threw 3 picks and was through. This cant be a serious choice, cant believe we are even talking to him.
Now do thorn. You’ll come to a shocking conclusion that thorn is vastly experienced garbage and throws twice the interceptions and loses to garbage teams. Miller moss is royalty compared to thorn. If thorn didn’t get freeze fired nobody can.
I dont want a qb who cant scramble literally at all. He has -19 rushing yards. Maybe he can throw, but he prolly gonna get sacked a lot, i wwnt at least a semi-mobile qb
I think we need to get the best 2nd string QB available. We have plenty of time to talk him up before the season gets begins. Maybe this one will live up to the talk.
Throw an absolute BAG to Mateer! Just watched a highlight video of him, and the boog is strong!
We need Mateer, Deuce, and Walker battling it out for the starting spot.
Mateer will be the starter there is no battle. Deuce and Walker and another transfer will battle it out in 2026.
@@GracieSkywalker we have a great kid committed for 26 as well if we keep him
Step 1: Fire Austin, Nix, and OL coach. Step 2: Hire an actual OC that can coach, develop competent game plans, and call plays. Step 3: Put Freeze in charge of recruiting only. Step 4: Hire competent replacements for Austin and OL coach. Otherwise, Auburn is sitting in a similar spot next year with Freeze headed out the door.
You speak truth. Preach!
Drop the bag on Mateer period all chips in, bet the house, get a proven baller and let's get these wins next year.
We need John Mateer!
Hell yeah!
Definitely perfect fit for the offense his ball on the slant is perfect
Absolutely !
Last year, we kept trying to generate fake buzz around these mid to below average QBs from weaker conferences. Cam Ward was a lock, and we passed. Either spend money on a proven commodity with heisman potential or develop what you have, but pretending moss or salter is an upgrade is dumb
@@Anonymous1.1.1.1 preach that’s Auburn for you they will never get it!
We have to stop thinking the mid level QBS will make a difference go get someone who make a difference not another PEYTON THRONE OR SOMEONE WHO SIMILAR WE NEED A BROTHA UNDER CENTER
Can Ward was not a lock. Charlie 5 actually went over this a couple days ago. This has been rumored for a while but heard from quite a few online talking heads that it was never even close.
100%
Cam was not a lock. He put out a post saying he was going to the draft so Auburn stopped pursuing him and then a couple of days later he came out and said he was taking his name out of the draft and was transferring to Miami
@@lanepatterson8004I think he means Ward was a lock to be good not a lock to Auburn
I’ll say it again, we need top O’lineman to make a top QB prospect more appealing.
If Salter is ends up being QB1, go ahead and start the coaching search.
We need two QBs in the portal. If we get Salter we need another one of these guys
17:24 Zac, sometimes your takes be spot on and others you just completely miss. J Cobb and D Alston are in a perfect position to take over RB1. They were competing with arguably the best back in the country for carries, now that hes gone, more touches for them.
Damari Alston is awful.. he top through holes and he is to big for tht.. I have no faith in Alston but Cobb is tht guy
We good on miller moss. We need a playmaker at qb
@@Dmac-fg9nu 💯💯💯💯
I usually agree with you guys but Running back is the least of my worries, I actually think Justin Jones and Sean Jackson are better than given credit and are big backs that are harder to bring down
and I don't think Damari nor Jeremiah are going anywhere
Camden Brown loves Auburn and I think he stays as well
I think Sean Jackson could be a great short yardage RB, but he was not even on the roaster this year until August. I think he was going to take an off the field support role, but with the Battie situation, he stepped in for another body in the room. Not sure if he is interested in playing much.
Love Jackson
He really needs to be playing a huge role at RB
QB,OL,DB,Linebackers thats our biggest areas to beef up
Defensive Line needs major improvement or at the least we need more depth, I think we have some good Freshmen but you never turn down a good DT
I agree. All year we couldn't get ANY pressure on QBs.@@harvspecter7
We 100% have to go after the NCST WR Kevin Concepcion. Him and Malcom on the field at the same time would be DYNAMIC!
Hugh Freeze better not screw this up. I'd rather have Salter or Rickie Collins from LSU before Miller. Miller would throw picks for the record books. Auburn needs a bigger, more mobile QB. That's it.
Thorn averaged an interception every game. Miller miss averaged an interception every other game.
@@lucio989 Your math is looking a lil fuzzy.
@@pickesc 43 out of 53 games thorn throws a pick. When you include freshman garbage time and all the cupcake teams through 5 years that’s basically an interception in every game that matters.
Can we get a new head coach in the portal?
Amen
A RADICAL IDEA....lets train Walker White how to read a defense and make decisions...spend the next 30 weeks on this (should be enuf)...unless Zach/Kyle think that Hugh is incapable of teaching a young QB...which then begs the question of why even recruit a QB from high school...lets go with transfers every year and save 4 scholarships/NIL. in that case, transfers for every position with no recruting (the potato-head approach to rosters).
Teach, train, mentor and coach up the freshmen....focus on what you can control.
thankfully my Chemical Engineering Professors taught me the fundamentals of chemical engineering and engineering/business in general so that I could prosper in my career. At least someone at the University believes in teaching the high schooler...instead of rent-a-person.
Never once have I heard an "informed person" say that the next 8 months should be spent on teaching, teaching, teaching the roster you have....what/why are these channels so against teaching high schoolers??? (they hate 18 yr olders...17 yr olds are ok (ryan williams))
The difference is you were in chem E for 4 years minimum before you were ready to start anywhere
I agree! You cant always depend on the portal to save your upcoming season. If the coach thinks that then its time for him to leave
@@adampaseur1190
True, however, I was taught starting day 1 with freshman math, chemistry, etc...not just sitting in the back of the class with my finger doing something. relying on portal means that teaching is secondary (if that much) and we're going to hope that a D2 school or some other program took a freshman and taught him for a year or two before he comes to AU.
we ain't in the business of recruiting high schoolers consistently and teaching them for a yr or two before we start them on the field....that's some else's job.
so the QB whisperer can't whisper anymore??? gone mute???
i think we need to coach up what we have at QB
Let's get Offords brother from Tulane. Has over 1000 yards and brother is a five star.
Man I’ve been saying this for weeks .. it’ll be a double plus
Give me Haynes King 🙏
Facts I've been posting Haynes king on everything
Not leaving Georgia Tech.
I like Walker White. I think he can be a very good QB. He has that "winning it" factor.
We need a black QB period
Miller Moss is equivalent to Peyton Thorne.
If he can’t be successful in Lincoln Riley he definitely will not be under Hugh Freeze.
I like Kaidon Salter but again I don’t see him being the answer.
Also Walker White is going to be ready, and Both Running Backs will stay
Demari is a senior and Cobb will be a junior.
I think they could be a great 1-2 punch
I think if Walker White went into the portal he would have a very hard time landing with a Power 4 school. Meaning...White is not 'him"
I thought the same about the RB you were talking about. He's really good.
Give me Jennings from SMU or Mateer from WSU. Salter & Moss both are too inconsistent for what we need.
As a USC fan I will say Moss would be excellent if you can protect him
That's too big of an "IF" I can hear the excuses now...baked in
We need a QB that fits the system
Wazoo qb, looks like a good fit
Good morning folks, God Blesd
Watch all these QB pickups happen, and Walker wins the job. What an ironic turn of events that would be.
I'd love it!
In a dream world we get ZB, C5, & DAP colab
Why would any RB want to come to Auburn while Freeze is the coach? RBs don't carry the ball at Auburn right now, they just block for the QB.
Zack pyron back up at georgia tech is in the portal he is originally from Alabama. If the talent is there that would be cool.
This comment is embarrassing
@Anonymous1.1.1.1 k
Why not develop Walker White to start next year? It’s not very practical to ask 4-5 star qbs to sit on the bench for 2+ years
Miller moss is a PT2.0
All I care about is that they open a checkbook up to the best fit QB who’s a winner
Mateer from Washington st is legit.
Maybe Auburn should be hiring the WaSt OC to double down on Mateer cuz from what i saw this year they need someone who knows how freakin create and execute an offensive gameplan. If Im a top transfer QB and have been watching Auburn the last two years I dont think theres enough money to convince me to sign up to play in that offense.
Demari fumbled the ball way too much that’s probably why he didn’t get as many carries . Cobb should be the starter next year
Reports are that Auburn QBs Hank Brown (3 star) and Holden Geriner (4 star) are entering the transfer portal.
Got to get at least two tackles as well.
Miller moss could be crazy
Absolutely not
Nooo!!!
Noo
Mateer is the only one to go after.If not him develop Walker Hank and Duece and maybe get Salter or backup experienced QB.that’s if Hank stays otherwise you have to pick up another QB from JC HS or portal.
I think salter is the guy ,we need a dual threat badly
Mateer,Moss,Salter in that order. Are my top 3, not really wanting Salter but if he was only choice id be okay.
I rather have Salter over those 2 guys
@WadeTime89 why? Mateer has 44 tds on season, over 800 rushing and 3100 passing yards..competition has been proven irrelevant now days
@cameroncarr2293 mateer put up a whopping 14 points in a loss to 3-9 Wyoming on Saturday. Played one of the weakest P4 SOS and dropped 4 games while looking extremely unimpressive in multiple games against G5 schools. I could keep listing reasons why it's embarrassing to consider him or Miller moss but Auburn fans are so down bad they would consider Mateer to lead them against an sec schedule 😂
@@Anonymous1.1.1.1 Well Moss has wins vs Michigan and LSU, but I dont want him. Still think with right weapons Mateer would do fine for 1season at Auburn
@@cameroncarr2293 no he doesn't Michigan went 15-0 in 23
and Moss lost to Michigan 27-24 in the 24 season.
I will believe we land a good portal QB when I see it.
Is the running back from Louisiana Monroe the Hardy kid in the picture ?
Truth be told, we need a great inside lineman also another edge 2 good backers and two more corners (Defense). OT and another guard, another outside WR, TE, maybe 2 RBs. Most OF ALL 😂 A DANG DUAL THREAT QB that’s accurate at least 71 comp%.
NOTHING LIKE CHARLIE TUESDAY
I gotta be honest, Miller Moss reminds me too much of Payton Thorne. He turned the ball over at CRITICAL times at USC. I have NO FAITH at all that auburn can fix a QB. We need to spend money and get a proven one like Mateer.
Depth pieces are easy to find in the portal. I would like for us to get some younger guys in the portal and not all one year guys.
@bobcanon8032 makes a great point below. To summarize...why does he need a portal qb 'savior' when he has two top-five qb's in the room? Is it the Auburn QB curse?
Matter goes to OU with wash,st, coach-MOSS WILL GREAT ANYWHERE, Fatilia from Arizona U. very good player,Salter knows head coach at Auburn, Arnold some question, following be NFL Hooper,tcu, king,Georgia tech, Johnson,Kansas st. Weighmon TXAM ?? Moss was made scape goat at USC he really didnplay that poorly end of season, see Wash.U game not that bad. Other games he was outstandingas been a top passer from a good high school program and took a Heisman Trophy Qb to keep him on bench.
You had basically 3 WR's playing most of the time. You got 3 coming in. You don't have enough balls to go around as it is. No point in a transfer unless you get KLS 2.0. RB is deep with the 2 we have plus incoming freshman. We couldn't get enough touches for Jarquez. No point in a transfer RB especially if we get Ouzman.
I just don't get your infatuation with the portal. Hell if we have the money we can go Bear Bryant and take everybody so nobody else gets them, but I don't see it.
Wasn't there someone named Babaloa coming here, Cutter Woods, Turbo? LOL
Mateer looks like the real deal but of course the highlights are with him playing against Non SEC competition.
Mateer for the win
Miller Moss was benched during the year…don’t need the California qb
Definitely would rather Mateer or Salter over Moss
What does it say about Freeze, who's had a whole year to develop a qb? Walker White was supposed to be the real deal.
Hell to the naw on Salter
Fifita or Jennings if they enter. Both quite a lot better than Moss and Salter. Fifita could be special.
Really that Liberty QB1 not right for Hugh?? Did he not recruit Kaidon to Liberty.
I really don't know sorry😅
He did. It's his guy. He also recruited Hank Brown to Liberty. The commonality being he recruited them to... Liberty. Should Auburn be pulling in kids at that level to play QB?
I don't understand y'all. Why do you think everyone who isn't one of the top dawgs are gonna leave. These are Auburn men and Freeze is about to schock all of y'all on the amount of players he keeps, and the class he brings in. Y'all call me crazy. 12/3/2024 I Jacob Lott put it on record we win 8 games next years. All the haters, come at me. Let's go
War Damn Eagle
I disagree with Kyle on the Cobb/Alston thing. I think if both of them stay, one of them will take over and I’m betting it’s Alston.
I think both stay. Cobb will be used more we may lose the younger backs but they are our top 2 no way Alvin start right off the bat
Has Freeze had a qb that has had success year one learning his system? If not, we need someone that knows the RPO system.
Just be patient folks
Bro y'all crazy. White or Knight will be our QB 1 next year
With Huge Freeze and the air Raid it's gonna be hard to get a running Back that you don't give the ball too WDE
We dont want no qb from liberty.. we need a big time name like a haynes king
USC was hot buns this year Miller Miss ain’t is
Auburn wasn't any better both underachieved
USC was better than Auburn and miller moss was way better than thorn.
Might as well go with White instead of waste money with Moss
Mateer or bust imo if you don’t get him expect a repeat of this year
C5 We need a Qb better than solid
Well it’s amazing kyle when he actually wins some games lol. C’mon guy. Billy actually showed that his team could go out and win some games and imagine that get bowl eligible with one of the toughest sched in the country.
I’m done trying to hype up someone to be better than what they’ve proven. Get whoever you get, but let’s not boog anymore about them and call a spade a spade.
If we get a QB that was benched during the regular season 😂 freeze will lose all credibility imo
Oklahoma hired the Washington State OC Oklahoma is going to get Washington State QB
Tamper. Tamper. Tamper. It's time to win.
All fun and games unless you get caught and placed on probation for 2-4 years. Then you'll be wanting to fire the coach for such tampering lol
We have to spend the money
Hell, just sign Deuce Knight, start him, and develop the ever loving hell out of him for his entire 4 years.
Hopefully every time he makes a mistake fans will make fun of him and his name and his acne and dad’s money. If he ever wins maybe Auburn fans could still complain and give him no credit and even if he sets records hopefully he transfers and Auburn fans hate him then he succeeds even more.
Freeze can't ride on liberty qb
If freeze screws this QB. Up he's definitely gone its all on him now
If we go down this path, Miller "Lost" will get HF fired, he's a ludicrous choice with no experience,
24, his Junior year, with one previous game in his life at QB in 23, he went 4-5 before he was benched,
in his 9th game, with his vast starting experience, he threw 3 picks and was through.
This cant be a serious choice, cant believe we are even talking to him.
Now do thorn. You’ll come to a shocking conclusion that thorn is vastly experienced garbage and throws twice the interceptions and loses to garbage teams. Miller moss is royalty compared to thorn. If thorn didn’t get freeze fired nobody can.
Stick with Walker White.
Moss is booty cheeks auburn doesn’t want him bama fans want us to get him bc he throws like 100 ints a game
Would we rather have Moss or Salter ?
Moss, but really would love Mateer
Neither
We HAVE to have a mobile qb. So that takes Moss out
@@Haydn_11 neither both trash but Salter is I had to choose there is reason Miller Moss is still flopping
MILLER MOSS 🔥🔥🔥
He literally got benched
@@WDE1121exactly we don’t need him
😂 he is also about as dual threat as Darrell Dapprich
Moss makes thorne look like a Heisman winner
Is signing day tmw?
That's about a SEASON TOO LATE Folks!
I dont want a qb who cant scramble literally at all. He has -19 rushing yards. Maybe he can throw, but he prolly gonna get sacked a lot, i wwnt at least a semi-mobile qb
We need a black QB like I’ve been saying.. I’m so discouraged of the program 🤦🏿♂️ hopefully it’s a turn around
Fifita???
So...all that hype for Walker White was just for content?
Different show. We barely talked Walker here.
@@LockedOnAuburn I meant when he was originally signed.
Miller moss got worse as the season went on. No athletic either. Has an arm though
I think we need to get the best 2nd string QB available. We have plenty of time to talk him up before the season gets begins. Maybe this one will live up to the talk.
Yall please don’t advocate for miller. Payton thorne 2.0
Kids, run away from this tractor wreck of a team.
Zac is such a pessimist
Miller Moss from 6-6 USC - no thanks
He beat lsu
Cobb is no feature back rather him go
What gives you that idea? He hasn’t been given that much spin