Jeezy “Thug Motivation 101” not being on this list is INSANE!!! That album literally changed the sound of music. T.I. May have started trap music as a sub genre. But That trap “sound” came from what Jeezy and Shawty Redd did on that album.
@@RoddyRodbb it’s surprising too considering the fact that this is a down south based channel lol. But at the same time what down south albums should be on here? TM101 and maybe TI Trap Muzik are tthe only ones that comes to mind 🤔
“Let’s Get It” was a MOMENT & deserved a spot but to your latter point, one could argue that the “trap sound” that’s popular to this day, actually came from Shawty Red, Zaytoven & Gucci with “Trap House”. The next generation were more influenced by it & Gucci in particular.
Capital punishment doesn’t measure up to any of the albums mentioned on this list. Not in influence or impact. It also had too many tracks and a lot of them didn’t age well.
I appreciate the inclusion of Victory Lap. Good kid m.A.A.d City was what I was thinking would be number 2, but understand that Section.80 is technically Kendrick’s debut album.
1. Nas - Illmatic 2. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die 3. Raekwon - OB4CL 4. DMX - It’s Dark And Hell Is Hot 5. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor 6. Mos Def - Black On Both Sides 7. Kanye West - The College Dropout 8. Dr Dre - The Chronic 9 Ras Kas - Soul On Ice 10. El-P - Fantastic Damage
Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor Kid Cudi- Man on The Moon Raewkon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Ghostface Killah- Ironman Busta Rhymes- The Coming Method Man- Tical OBD- Return to the 36 Chambers Lloyd Banks- The Hunger For More AZ- Doe or Die Webbie- Savage Life Big Pun- Captial Punishment Should be in the honorable mentions as well. All great debuts 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s tough to narrow it down to 10 picks of course, but, personally, for me the solo debuts by Big Daddy Kane, Raekwon, The D.O.C., O.C., Big L, Big Pun, Ol’ Dirty, Scarface, Sean Price and MF DOOM all outshine The Game’s debut.
@@seankumar6362 That’s true and I see where you’re coming from but I personally don’t think it pushed the culture and the artform forward the same way the debut albums of the artists I mentioned did, whether on on a musical level, emcee-wise or both. Plus I feel like commercial succes is not a criterium that is particularly congruent with the essence of Hip Hop, considering CT made this video on the occasion of Hip Hop culture’s 50th birthday. Don’t get me wrong though, I love The Documentary, I think it’s def a classic just not top 10 in my mind.
Man CJay this list is a damn classic in its own!! I’ll say it now so when we look back 5yrs from now we’ll remember who said it first! Another honorable mention for me is Only Built For Cuban Linx I’d actually replace with something on this list, but another topic for another day ✌🏽
Jay and Big both killed Brooklyn's Finest. I've listened to that song a thousand times and I constantly change my mind on who had the best verse. Nobody got outshined
The only issue I see with this is Victory Lap over Its Dark and hell is hot. That’s a no for me dawg (Randy Jackson voice) 😂 As a matter of fact Jeezy TM101 > Victory Lap
I like Victory Lap over that DMX album. But I get it X is a a way bigger star. But that Nip album was absolutely FLAWLESS. And yes I said this while He was alive. But I definitely agree with you about TM 101 being better than BOTH of those. Jeezy was in his BAG with that MF!!!
@@MarkHallOfFame I think TM101 and IDHIH is more debatable for me but even then I would still go IDHIH. I think IDHIH comes down to nostalgia or no nostalgia for most people. If you weren’t outside listening to it in real time it doesn’t hit you the same. For me that’s one of the greatest hip hop albums ever so I’m always going to be biased for that album
The Documentary by The Game, Capital Punishment by Big Pun belong on this list and above GRODT. And Doggystyle, The College Dropout & Reasonable Doubt belong above 50 But I wish y'all will do a ranking of J. Cole, Eminem, LL Cool J, Eve, Salt N Pepa, Da Brat, MC Lyte, Missy Elliott, Queen Latifah
Man ... I will never understand why people rate 50 and his work so high. No way should that album be ranked higher than Dre, Cube, Snoop, Biggie, Jay, and Kanye.
Agreed. Whats especially weird is right after, he said Mos Def’s lack of good follow up albums retroactively lowers the rank of the album… by that standard we could say the same for 50.
@@jman0509 Facts. 50’s catalog ain’t it if we strictly talking about albums. And I always said GRODT is overrated but I can’t deny it’s impact. So many people love that album. Meanwhile I’ve been rebelling agains that album for 20 years 😂
@@muleyamwiinga3988 some of the songs didn’t age well imo (ie: Pimp, like my style, in the club). It’s multiple songs that I skip every time I put it on. I get the appeal and it’s impact but I never was a huge fan of that album 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheRealLeonardWashington There were skips at the time or now? Because you have account for diminish returns on songs like In da club... On the overall album as well.. Of course not everything will hold up well after 20 years.. Look at our skin 20 years later. PS you do not have to be fan to be objective
Soooo no paid in full, criminal minded, The Documentary? (Among many others) And if get rich or die tryin counts as 50s first album then shouldn’t Eminem’s SSLP??
@@dmercy8477 ok but neither is get Rich or die trying 50s debut? It’s power of a dollar but you don’t hear people talking about it because they are talking about commercial debuts.
@@TheTortaLover_YTThe only difference is that Infinite was actually released but as a cassette which Eminem acknowledged that himself while Power Of The Dollar is still unreleased so GRODT still counts as his official debut. Sorry, the SSLP is a classic but it still doesn’t count as an actual debut.
The Documentary by The Game IS his debut LP. There is no confusion about that whatsoever. 'Untold Story' is considered a compilation and is not part of his solo career.
@@gothamcityarcade of course, I know that. I don't know what that has to do with the fact that that album should be on this list or an honorable mention at the very least.
I'm just subscribing to your channel but why don't you do a top 10 mixtape from any artist or just a certain artist in general..You can break it down for certain years as well..
The Biggie line from Me and My Bitch came from Richard Pryor, I still dont support it but yea. More importantly, top 10 debuts is a tough list to create but y'all got a solid list. Salute
@@williamwatsoniii3895Kendrick “GKMC” would be in the conversation as well. Ice Cube “Death Certificate”, Eminem “Marshall Mathers LP” there’s a few that could be name.
6:25 sorry 1989’s No One Can Do It Better by The D.O.C. is the first West Coast solo classic. Cube’s debut may have surpassed it, but it’s still a classic. Some people might even argue for King T’s Act A Fool from 1988, but it’s not quite classic level imo.
I know I’m gonna on get trashed but Ready to Die is overrated and aged horribly his growth on Life after Death is still unmatched it’s probably the best sophomore album of all time.
My top male hip hop albums debut 1.50 Cent Get Rich,Die Trying 2.Kane Long Live The Kane 3.Snoop Doggystyle 4.Juv 400 Degrees 5.Lil Wayne Block Is Hot 6.Jada Kiss Game Goodbye 7.DMX Dark Is Hell is Hot 8.Redman what the album 9.KRS One Return Of Boom Bap 10.LL Radio
My Ranking 1.Ice-T-Rhyme Pays 2.Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle 3.Tupac-2Pacalypse now 4.Too Short-Born to Mack 5.Coolio-It takes a thief 6.Mc Breed-20 Below 7.Nas-Illmatic 8.Mac-Shel schocked 9.Biggie Smalls-Ready to die 10.Mase-Harlem World
Id have to get dizzee rascal, DOOM, Nas, Raekwon, Travis Scott, JID, Kanye, Anderson .Paak, Westside Gunn, O.C, Dave on my List. Some of those aren’t top ten but are definitely honourable mentions.
thabalancedone use more punctuation mate it would really help. Saying grime isn’t hip hop because it’s derived from garage is such a stupid argument. Imagine me saying boom bap itself wasn’t hip hop because it has soul samples, sounds stupid doesn’t it? Trap is rap, but trap is also completely different to something like boom bap. It is a sub genre
Aceyalone "All balls don't bounce" Braille "Life first....Half the battle" Random "Mega Ran" Xzibit "At the speed of life" Pharoahe Monch "Internal Affairs" Count Bass D "Pre life crisis" Wise Intelligent "Killing you for fun" Mc Frontalot "Nerdcore rising" Busta Rhymes "The coming" Necro "I need drugs" K-Rino "Stories from the black book" Paris "The devil made me do it" Scarface "Mister Scarface is back"
nobody seems to know or remember.... but the opening line on Me & my Bitch is from a Richard Pryor stand-up. He says it, obviously as a joke, so I'm pretty sure that's what BIG was goin for. It's just a shame the vast majority don't know that it's a quote from a comic legend & rather think that BIG just randomly thought of that to say.
If Victory Lap is considered an official debut then Good Kidd Maad City should've made this list. I remember Section.80 being categorized as a mixtape project
My personal list 1. Doggystyle- Snoop Dogg( Dr Dre probably deserves 50% credit on this) 2. It's Dark and Hell is Hot- DMX 3. Reasonable Doubt- Jay Z 4. Illmatic- Nas 5. The College Dropout- Kanye West 6. Get Rich or Die Trying- 50 Cent 7. Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill 8. Slim Shady LP- Eminem( Don't come at me with that Infinite BS) 9. Ready to Die- Biggie 10. Capital Punishment- Big Pun( Ya'll been sleeping on Big Pun on this channel)
I agree with you with that Slim Shady LP being the debut. Infinite wasn't a blip on any radar until AFTER the success of Eminem. No one does that with Ludacris' discography, so why should we do that with Eminem?
@thabalancedone look up the old press articles in 1999 for The Slim Shady LP. It was billed as his debut album not his sophomore album. Look at the reviews of his 2000 album, The Marshall Mathers LP. That was initially billed as his sophomore LP not his third album.
@thabalancedone so why hasn't Ludacris' Incognegro counted as his debut album then? Exactly. The same situation but only Luda sold way units independently than Infinite was ever pressed. No one counted Infinite as his debut until AFTER his 3 album, The Eminem Show, was released. Rewriting history is all that is.
What up gangsta was the perfect intro many man was the midst of what he went through thats why he started it out with the gun sounds and the word what's up is word that can be introduced as a introduction to someone so he made the right choice
The promo Dead President is the best version to me(I want money like Cosby who wouldn’t? This the type talk that makes me think you guys ain’t got no pudding)
1. Snoop Dogg “Doggystyle” 2. Dr Dre “The Chronic” 3. Kanye West “College Dropout” 4. Lupe Fiasco “Food & Liquor” 5. Nelly “Country Grammar” 6. 50 Cent “Get Rich or Die Tryin” 7. Drake “Thank Me Later” 8. Young Jeezy “Thug Motivation” 9. Rick Ross “Port of Miami” 10. The Game “The Documentary” this list a matter of preference. It is based on sales,impact,hits,and replay value not specifically lyricism. Ex: Lupe Fiasco’s debut is listed not just due to being creative and lyrical but it had some hit singles and sold well for it’s time and style. “Illmatic” “Infinite” and “Reasonable Doubt” were great for what they were but didn’t produce a lot of hits,this not a lot of sales..not bad debuts but didn’t make enough of an impact at the time of release in comparison to other debuts. Like it or not, I pay attention to that because it’s apart of making an album.
So glad yall added Victory Lap, to me it was a west coast Reasonable Doubt. I would have removed Kanye(love the album) and replaced it with Jeezy or Eazy E
I actually don’t think the skits in that DMX album could be done without at all, I’ve never once heard someone complain about the skits they’re awesome. Also get Nip out of here dude like I can’t stand when hip hop pages do this. Throw in one album by some modern rapper to go “see we know modern stuff too” it’s exactly why they had Meg the stallion and not Jean Grae. Out of the ridiculous amount of debuts to choose from, all the game changing classics you have to leave out, and that’s spots just thrown away to an album that’s like pretty good. Anyone who thinks that shit would be on here if he hadn’t died is crazy. Over DOOMSDAY? Fantastic Damage? Whut? Thee Album? Ironman? Return to the 36 Chambers? Capital Punishment? Internal Affairs? Mr Scarface is Back? Lifestyles ov da Poor & Dangerous? Great Adventures of Slick Rick? Quik Is the Name? Dr. Octagonecologyst? No One Can Do It Better? You know what you should’ve put if you wanted to do a more recent debut? FOOD & LIQUOR. Also I don’t think anyone agrees with that Black on Both Sides take, I very much enjoy his other albums and implying his career was the only one who didn’t take off is just not accurate
This is a pretty solid list and I'd have a lot of the same. Here's how I'd call it, in order of release Paid in Full (1987) Criminal Minded (1987) The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (1988) Long Live the Kane (1988) The Chronic (1992) Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) Ready to Die (1994) It Was Written (1994) Reasonable Doubt (1996) Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)
I think Ready to Die is the better BIG album. It's less filtered or commercialized. Less skips even if your going by a percentage. Back in 97, I thought LAD was better. I remember when I 1st bought it, I smoked a jay (back when I was gettin high as HELL) and laid down to go to bed while I listened to the album in my headphones on my discman. (these kids no nothin bout that. LOL) I was blown away. At that moment I thought BIG was the best to do it. So none of this is to say that LAD isn't a phenomenal album. It definitely is. But it just didn't age as well as RTD did. Still a good listen. Sum cuts like Kick in the Door and Long Kiss Goodnight will ALWAYS be fire!
Mines Is 1. Nas Illmatic 2. The Notorious B.I.G Ready To Die 3. Dr. Dre The Chronic 4. Wu - Tang Clan Enter The Wu Tang 5. Kendrick Lamar Good Kid MADD City 6. Mos Def Black On Both Sides 7. Raekwon Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 8. Snoop Dogg Doggystyle 9. Kanye West The College Dropout 10. JAY-Z Reasonable Doubt 11. Fugees The Score 12. Eminem The Slim Shady LP 13. 50 Cent Get Rich Or Die Tryin 14. GZA Liquid Swords 15. Ice Cube Amerikas Most Wanted 16. DMX Its Dark And Hell Is Hot 17. Big Pun Capital Punishment 18. Brotha Lynch Hung Season Of Da Siccness 19. The Game The Documentary
The list isn’t bad, but no 80’s Rap albums? Big Daddy Kane, The D.O.C, Slick Rick??? Jay and Cube would be higher on my list. Where’s OB4CL? Redman’s debut deserves mention too. Illmatic Reasonable Doubt AMW The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick RTD The Chronic OB4CL No One Can Do It Better Long Live The Kane The College Dropout
@@borngifted5398 yea I be damn if we give Vanilla Ice flowers just because he went diamond. At least Hammer was writing his bars and at times Hammer was actually killing it low key lol. Meanwhile Vanilla Ice got hung from a balcony for not giving proper credit 🤣
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Facts bro !!! 🤣 Alot of people hated on Hammer but he definitely was Original & was moving the genre forward. Hell the man even had Pepsi & KFC Popcorn Chicken commercials & his own Saturday morning cartoon. While Vanilla ice Went on to do rock music after getting exposed & hung out to dry 🤣 Literally !!!
No Thug Motivation 101? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ When this came was out, every car in the club parking lot was bumpin this album. None singles were huge in the club. One of the best albums ever by any south artist
My Top 10: Illmatic Ready To Die Reasonable Doubt Get Rich or Die Tryin' Only Built 4 Cuban Linx The Chronic Doggystyle The College Dropout Good Kid, Maad City Thug Motivation 101
Man y'all really thought you did something by putting Nipsey over Lupe, Slick Rick, multiple classic Wu Tang projects, Mos Def, Redman, Cudi, MF DOOM, etc.
Jeezy “Thug Motivation 101” not being on this list is INSANE!!! That album literally changed the sound of music. T.I. May have started trap music as a sub genre. But That trap “sound” came from what Jeezy and Shawty Redd did on that album.
🎯🎯🎯
There's no down south albums on the list at all actually...crazy
@@RoddyRodbb it’s surprising too considering the fact that this is a down south based channel lol. But at the same time what down south albums should be on here? TM101 and maybe TI Trap Muzik are tthe only ones that comes to mind 🤔
“Let’s Get It” was a MOMENT & deserved a spot but to your latter point, one could argue that the “trap sound” that’s popular to this day, actually came from Shawty Red, Zaytoven & Gucci with “Trap House”. The next generation were more influenced by it & Gucci in particular.
That wasn’t his first album it was come shop with me
Only built for Cuban linx is noticeably absent from this list
Yeah it should have been on it
Right? Especially since they had Cube, who also was part of a group and went solo
That shhhh is top 5 of all time
Definitely….
Yeah... it ain't that great
I can't believe BIG PUN - CAPITAL PUNISHMENT is not on the list. It's not even mention.
Yes I AGREE 👍!! That album is a CLASSIC debut!
Yeah I can’t believe it didn’t make it
Capital punishment doesn’t measure up to any of the albums mentioned on this list. Not in influence or impact. It also had too many tracks and a lot of them didn’t age well.
It's honestly not as good
@@jondough9315ask some rappers from the era about Pun, and they all tell u it was a huge deal and major influence
AZ Doe or Die should've made this list. AZ is vastly underrated.
I think he mentioned with Mos Def that the list favors artists that had successful careers following their debut album but I might have heard wrong.
I appreciate the inclusion of Victory Lap. Good kid m.A.A.d City was what I was thinking would be number 2, but understand that Section.80 is technically Kendrick’s debut album.
And even that’s an underrated debut album (@section 80). It don’t deserve to be on this list but it’s aged very well for K Dot
@@TheRealLeonardWashington I agree bro. Crazy enough, it’s my favorite album of all time.
I'd say Paid in Full is better
1. Nas - Illmatic
2. The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
3. Raekwon - OB4CL
4. DMX - It’s Dark And Hell Is Hot
5. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
6. Mos Def - Black On Both Sides
7. Kanye West - The College Dropout
8. Dr Dre - The Chronic
9 Ras Kas - Soul On Ice
10. El-P - Fantastic Damage
big L is wild but get rich or die trying is a must mentioning in this one
No Get Rich or Die Trying mentioning is absolutely insane!
@@lavariosmith5622 one of the most overrated hip hop albums of all time
Would love to see a top 10 follow up albums list. Those that beat the sophomore jinx
I don’t think it’s been a lot of artist to do it
Yeah. Tribe's Low End Theory & Outkast's Atliens immediately come to mind
@@darrickmeek5531MMLP , Supreme Clientele come to mind on that one as well
Mobb deep the infamous, Nas it was written, GZA Liquid Swords, Biggie life after death, ice cube death certificate etc…
@@darrickmeek5531 100000000000%
Tuesday! Oh and: Quality Content as always. But deviant gotta ask for that E-40 and Too $hort list…. Tradition
“Illmatic” is my favorite album of all time. Any genre.
Hard to argue with that 🙏🏾
Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor
Kid Cudi- Man on The Moon
Raewkon- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Ghostface Killah- Ironman
Busta Rhymes- The Coming
Method Man- Tical
OBD- Return to the 36 Chambers
Lloyd Banks- The Hunger For More
AZ- Doe or Die
Webbie- Savage Life
Big Pun- Captial Punishment
Should be in the honorable mentions as well. All great debuts 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The sample from Nuttin but a G Thang is “ I wanna do something freaky to you” by Leon Haywood
Wow I didn’t know that
Y’all gotta do a producers list too. I know Dilla is gonna be on there 🔥🔥🔥
We need that what’s your top 10
It’s tough to narrow it down to 10 picks of course, but, personally, for me the solo debuts by Big Daddy Kane, Raekwon, The D.O.C., O.C., Big L, Big Pun, Ol’ Dirty, Scarface, Sean Price and MF DOOM all outshine The Game’s debut.
Oh shit I forgot about the Purple tape. That’s definitely getting Victory Lap up outta there
true, but The Game's debut was crazy commercially compared to everyone on this list (maybe other than BDK or Raekwon)
@@seankumar6362 That’s true and I see where you’re coming from but I personally don’t think it pushed the culture and the artform forward the same way the debut albums of the artists I mentioned did, whether on on a musical level, emcee-wise or both. Plus I feel like commercial succes is not a criterium that is particularly congruent with the essence of Hip Hop, considering CT made this video on the occasion of Hip Hop culture’s 50th birthday. Don’t get me wrong though, I love The Documentary, I think it’s def a classic just not top 10 in my mind.
For some reason I was expecting Nelly or Eminem at the top 2 spots however I’m not disappointed at who made the top 2.
Man CJay this list is a damn classic in its own!! I’ll say it now so when we look back 5yrs from now we’ll remember who said it first!
Another honorable mention for me is Only Built For Cuban Linx I’d actually replace with something on this list, but another topic for another day ✌🏽
I was gonna say 36 chambers but i guess that will be for another video yall should do top 10 group debut album rank
I got the top 4 correct before you said them. Definitely on point with this one!
College trilogy ( all classics)
1. LATE REGISTRATION
2. THE COLLEGE DROPOUT
3. GRADUATION
That's my ranking too
All was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
College dropout last for me followed by grad and then late registration
Idk how I feel about victory lap over it’s dark 🤔
Perfectly rated❤
You and me both 😏
@@mthokozisindlovu3358No it’s not
That feeling is called disappointment
Yeah he’s just wrong about that
Jay and Big both killed Brooklyn's Finest. I've listened to that song a thousand times and I constantly change my mind on who had the best verse. Nobody got outshined
The only issue I see with this is Victory Lap over Its Dark and hell is hot. That’s a no for me dawg (Randy Jackson voice) 😂
As a matter of fact Jeezy TM101 > Victory Lap
I like Victory Lap over that DMX album. But I get it X is a a way bigger star. But that Nip album was absolutely FLAWLESS. And yes I said this while He was alive. But I definitely agree with you about TM 101 being better than BOTH of those. Jeezy was in his BAG with that MF!!!
@@MarkHallOfFame I think TM101 and IDHIH is more debatable for me but even then I would still go IDHIH. I think IDHIH comes down to nostalgia or no nostalgia for most people. If you weren’t outside listening to it in real time it doesn’t hit you the same. For me that’s one of the greatest hip hop albums ever so I’m always going to be biased for that album
No one can do it better and
Regulate-G Funk era... both deserve a mention
Regulate super slept on
The Game ‘Documentary’ & Young Jeezy ‘Let’s Get It: Thug Motivation 101’ definitely belong in this top 10 list. Untold Story is not an official debut.
What happened to jeezy thug motivation
@Culturalist Theory/ C Jay Williams, one minor correction: 50 Cent's TV show is Power, not Empire.
50 cent number 1
If we are talking about impact his debut was the biggest ever period
Another Great List Keep Up The Great Work These Debut Albums Are Iconic #Fact
The Documentary by The Game, Capital Punishment by Big Pun belong on this list and above GRODT. And Doggystyle, The College Dropout & Reasonable Doubt belong above 50
But I wish y'all will do a ranking of J. Cole, Eminem, LL Cool J, Eve, Salt N Pepa, Da Brat, MC Lyte, Missy Elliott, Queen Latifah
Man ... I will never understand why people rate 50 and his work so high. No way should that album be ranked higher than Dre, Cube, Snoop, Biggie, Jay, and Kanye.
Agreed. Whats especially weird is right after, he said Mos Def’s lack of good follow up albums retroactively lowers the rank of the album… by that standard we could say the same for 50.
@@jman0509 Facts. 50’s catalog ain’t it if we strictly talking about albums. And I always said GRODT is overrated but I can’t deny it’s impact. So many people love that album. Meanwhile I’ve been rebelling agains that album for 20 years 😂
@@TheRealLeonardWashingtonwhat's your issue with it?
@@muleyamwiinga3988 some of the songs didn’t age well imo (ie: Pimp, like my style, in the club). It’s multiple songs that I skip every time I put it on. I get the appeal and it’s impact but I never was a huge fan of that album 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheRealLeonardWashington There were skips at the time or now? Because you have account for diminish returns on songs like In da club... On the overall album as well.. Of course not everything will hold up well after 20 years.. Look at our skin 20 years later. PS you do not have to be fan to be objective
I mean, OB4CLand Liquid Swords are right there...
Soooo no paid in full, criminal minded, The Documentary? (Among many others) And if get rich or die tryin counts as 50s first album then shouldn’t Eminem’s SSLP??
@thabalancedone power of the dolla?
The fact that the slim shady LP isn’t here is actually pissing me off but I’m happy to see 50 cents debut here.
That’s not Eminem debut. Infinite is his actual debut it just doesn’t get talked about at all.
@@dmercy8477 ok but neither is get Rich or die trying 50s debut? It’s power of a dollar but you don’t hear people talking about it because they are talking about commercial debuts.
@@TheTortaLover_YTThe only difference is that Infinite was actually released but as a cassette which Eminem acknowledged that himself while Power Of The Dollar is still unreleased so GRODT still counts as his official debut. Sorry, the SSLP is a classic but it still doesn’t count as an actual debut.
@thabalancedone we are talking about commercial debuts
The Documentary by The Game IS his debut LP. There is no confusion about that whatsoever. 'Untold Story' is considered a compilation and is not part of his solo career.
Yeah they should of included it. Incredible album
Fifty wrote the hits that allow the game to be the artist he is now! Remember, Dr. Dre was going drop him because he couldn't write!
@@gothamcityarcade of course, I know that. I don't know what that has to do with the fact that that album should be on this list or an honorable mention at the very least.
Empire or Power?
I'm just subscribing to your channel but why don't you do a top 10 mixtape from any artist or just a certain artist in general..You can break it down for certain years as well..
The Biggie line from Me and My Bitch came from Richard Pryor, I still dont support it but yea.
More importantly, top 10 debuts is a tough list to create but y'all got a solid list. Salute
Not only is Illmatic arguably the best debut album ever…. It’s also arguably the Best album ever period!
Nope!
It’s 4th on my list.
Maybe in New York but not here in Miami
I’ve never thought it was all that good. I’d pick every other album on this list over it.
@@Papadoc1981 thats your preference tho, ppl out there would rather listen to 1989 by taylor than something like gkmc
36 chambers was game changing
Can we get a top 10 sophomore album I think number 1 on this list would be Nas It was Written
Either it was written or life after death would be #1
@@TheRealLeonardWashington damn I totally forgot about Life After Death
@@williamwatsoniii3895Kendrick “GKMC” would be in the conversation as well. Ice Cube “Death Certificate”, Eminem “Marshall Mathers LP” there’s a few that could be name.
@@MarkHallOfFameATLiens by OutKast too
@@MarkHallOfFame damn I forgot about these three also 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Didn’t Nelly go Diamond his 1st album? And im surprised Method Man didn't make tha cut either!.
Great ranking but I’ll put Dark over Doubt, the impact of Dark at the time was miles bigger than Doubt…
I put Only Built 4 Cuban linx over Reasonable Doubt
Can you do list top 200 best rap/hip-hop albums of all time?
Nobody has time for 200 albums
@@Brian00007 I have
@@autorakdzien that's because you have nothing better to do
@@Brian00007 why are you so toxic. I have a lot of things to do but I will watch it in my free time
@@autorakdzien why you such a cry baby?
Y’all gotta do a producer list
Top ten albums of 2010s
Not putting the Purple Tape on this list is wild lmao
I knew Nas placement. K dot is missing. Happy you added Nipsey
6:25 sorry 1989’s No One Can Do It Better by The D.O.C. is the first West Coast solo classic. Cube’s debut may have surpassed it, but it’s still a classic. Some people might even argue for King T’s Act A Fool from 1988, but it’s not quite classic level imo.
I know I’m gonna on get trashed but Ready to Die is overrated and aged horribly his growth on Life after Death is still unmatched it’s probably the best sophomore album of all time.
How is Cuban Linx not on this list?
My top male hip hop albums debut 1.50 Cent Get Rich,Die Trying 2.Kane Long Live The Kane 3.Snoop Doggystyle 4.Juv 400 Degrees 5.Lil Wayne Block Is Hot 6.Jada Kiss Game Goodbye 7.DMX Dark Is Hell is Hot 8.Redman what the album 9.KRS One Return Of Boom Bap 10.LL Radio
400 Degrees isn’t Juveniles debut
My Ranking
1.Ice-T-Rhyme Pays
2.Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle
3.Tupac-2Pacalypse now
4.Too Short-Born to Mack
5.Coolio-It takes a thief
6.Mc Breed-20 Below
7.Nas-Illmatic
8.Mac-Shel schocked
9.Biggie Smalls-Ready to die
10.Mase-Harlem World
How can u make this list and not have the classic Only Built 4 Cuban Linx can't have a list without the purple tape
Nas illmatic is my all time favorite album
Good album I like it was written a little better
Id have to get dizzee rascal, DOOM, Nas, Raekwon, Travis Scott, JID, Kanye, Anderson .Paak, Westside Gunn, O.C, Dave on my List. Some of those aren’t top ten but are definitely honourable mentions.
thabalancedone grime is a sub genre of hip hop
@thabalancedone it’s a fusion of garage and hip hop. Grime Mcs are rappers mate
thabalancedone use more punctuation mate it would really help. Saying grime isn’t hip hop because it’s derived from garage is such a stupid argument. Imagine me saying boom bap itself wasn’t hip hop because it has soul samples, sounds stupid doesn’t it? Trap is rap, but trap is also completely different to something like boom bap. It is a sub genre
@thabalancedone continuing this futile. you’re obviously content in your own delusion.
@thabalancedone to who? the fucking zero people looking? 💀
No purple tape?
Side note MTV never played “Get At Me Dog” video
Yea you should make the 'Get rich or die tryin' vid
I have to agree with you on that many men starting the album of that would've set the stage
I thought for sure Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx was going to be on here I wanna know why it wasn't
So....Eric B & Rakim's "Paid In Full" gets NO mention?? The album that modernized Hip Hop? The album that eventually birthed Illmatic? Wow...😑😒
It’s not a solo album…
I see two names there
Eric B was the DJ...he never rhymed on the album nor produced it. It is, in fact, a debut solo album.
Nipsey wasn’t actually “independent” when VL came out. It was on Atlantic
I think 50's debut album is the greatest debut album of all time. It's one of my favorite rap albums of all time.
Aceyalone "All balls don't bounce"
Braille "Life first....Half the battle"
Random "Mega Ran"
Xzibit "At the speed of life"
Pharoahe Monch "Internal Affairs"
Count Bass D "Pre life crisis"
Wise Intelligent "Killing you for fun"
Mc Frontalot "Nerdcore rising"
Busta Rhymes "The coming"
Necro "I need drugs"
K-Rino "Stories from the black book"
Paris "The devil made me do it"
Scarface "Mister Scarface is back"
Wow so which one of these albums is the best
Cube and dre were cool during chronic cube is in the let me ride video
These are some really good albums. IDK if I'd have Ice Cube so far back
nobody seems to know or remember.... but the opening line on Me & my Bitch is from a Richard Pryor stand-up. He says it, obviously as a joke, so I'm pretty sure that's what BIG was goin for. It's just a shame the vast majority don't know that it's a quote from a comic legend & rather think that BIG just randomly thought of that to say.
Having Nipsey hustle before dmx is madness 😮
Good kid mad city????? I thought that was gonna be number one and what about Lauryn Hill?
If Victory Lap is considered an official debut then Good Kidd Maad City should've made this list. I remember Section.80 being categorized as a mixtape project
Yes it’s Nips officially debut
Everything else before it were mixtapes
No Redman?:(
My personal list
1. Doggystyle- Snoop Dogg( Dr Dre probably deserves 50% credit on this)
2. It's Dark and Hell is Hot- DMX
3. Reasonable Doubt- Jay Z
4. Illmatic- Nas
5. The College Dropout- Kanye West
6. Get Rich or Die Trying- 50 Cent
7. Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill
8. Slim Shady LP- Eminem( Don't come at me with that Infinite BS)
9. Ready to Die- Biggie
10. Capital Punishment- Big Pun( Ya'll been sleeping on Big Pun on this channel)
I agree with you with that Slim Shady LP being the debut. Infinite wasn't a blip on any radar until AFTER the success of Eminem. No one does that with Ludacris' discography, so why should we do that with Eminem?
Pun.....Em....all the amazing indie rappers of the late 90s early 2000s......except DOOM(who didn get his flowers til he passed)
@thabalancedone look up the old press articles in 1999 for The Slim Shady LP. It was billed as his debut album not his sophomore album. Look at the reviews of his 2000 album, The Marshall Mathers LP. That was initially billed as his sophomore LP not his third album.
@thabalancedone so why hasn't Ludacris' Incognegro counted as his debut album then? Exactly. The same situation but only Luda sold way units independently than Infinite was ever pressed. No one counted Infinite as his debut until AFTER his 3 album, The Eminem Show, was released. Rewriting history is all that is.
thabalancedone it's not considered his debut.
What up gangsta was the perfect intro many man was the midst of what he went through thats why he started it out with the gun sounds and the word what's up is word that can be introduced as a introduction to someone so he made the right choice
The promo Dead President is the best version to me(I want money like Cosby who wouldn’t? This the type talk that makes me think you guys ain’t got no pudding)
8ball MJG- comin out hard 📣📣
I know y'all gonna feel I'm trippin, but C MURDA HAD ONE OF THE HARDEST DEBUT ALBUMS OF ALL TIME!!!
1. Snoop Dogg “Doggystyle”
2. Dr Dre “The Chronic”
3. Kanye West “College Dropout”
4. Lupe Fiasco “Food & Liquor”
5. Nelly “Country Grammar”
6. 50 Cent “Get Rich or Die Tryin”
7. Drake “Thank Me Later”
8. Young Jeezy “Thug Motivation”
9. Rick Ross “Port of Miami”
10. The Game “The Documentary”
this list a matter of preference. It is based on sales,impact,hits,and replay value not specifically lyricism. Ex: Lupe Fiasco’s debut is listed not just due to being creative and lyrical but it had some hit singles and sold well for it’s time and style. “Illmatic” “Infinite” and “Reasonable Doubt” were great for what they were but didn’t produce a lot of hits,this not a lot of sales..not bad debuts but didn’t make enough of an impact at the time of release in comparison to other debuts. Like it or not, I pay attention to that because it’s apart of making an album.
illmatic's impact is WAY bigger than you think
50 over Snoop, Dre, Kanye, X and Jay is wild. Bruh doesn’t have a better debut than Raekwon either.
They're ranking on music albums, esp rap music, is just not good... Period.
So glad yall added Victory Lap, to me it was a west coast Reasonable Doubt. I would have removed Kanye(love the album) and replaced it with Jeezy or Eazy E
I actually don’t think the skits in that DMX album could be done without at all, I’ve never once heard someone complain about the skits they’re awesome. Also get Nip out of here dude like I can’t stand when hip hop pages do this. Throw in one album by some modern rapper to go “see we know modern stuff too” it’s exactly why they had Meg the stallion and not Jean Grae. Out of the ridiculous amount of debuts to choose from, all the game changing classics you have to leave out, and that’s spots just thrown away to an album that’s like pretty good. Anyone who thinks that shit would be on here if he hadn’t died is crazy. Over DOOMSDAY? Fantastic Damage? Whut? Thee Album? Ironman? Return to the 36 Chambers? Capital Punishment? Internal Affairs? Mr Scarface is Back? Lifestyles ov da Poor & Dangerous? Great Adventures of Slick Rick? Quik Is the Name? Dr. Octagonecologyst? No One Can Do It Better? You know what you should’ve put if you wanted to do a more recent debut? FOOD & LIQUOR. Also I don’t think anyone agrees with that Black on Both Sides take, I very much enjoy his other albums and implying his career was the only one who didn’t take off is just not accurate
Illmatic of course. Cant argue with that.
This is a pretty solid list and I'd have a lot of the same. Here's how I'd call it, in order of release
Paid in Full (1987)
Criminal Minded (1987)
The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (1988)
Long Live the Kane (1988)
The Chronic (1992)
Enter the 36 Chambers (1993)
Ready to Die (1994)
It Was Written (1994)
Reasonable Doubt (1996)
Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)
I think Ready to Die is the better BIG album. It's less filtered or commercialized. Less skips even if your going by a percentage. Back in 97, I thought LAD was better. I remember when I 1st bought it, I smoked a jay (back when I was gettin high as HELL) and laid down to go to bed while I listened to the album in my headphones on my discman. (these kids no nothin bout that. LOL) I was blown away. At that moment I thought BIG was the best to do it. So none of this is to say that LAD isn't a phenomenal album. It definitely is. But it just didn't age as well as RTD did. Still a good listen. Sum cuts like Kick in the Door and Long Kiss Goodnight will ALWAYS be fire!
Mines Is
1. Nas Illmatic
2. The Notorious B.I.G Ready To Die
3. Dr. Dre The Chronic
4. Wu - Tang Clan Enter The Wu Tang
5. Kendrick Lamar Good Kid MADD City
6. Mos Def Black On Both Sides
7. Raekwon Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
8. Snoop Dogg Doggystyle
9. Kanye West The College Dropout
10. JAY-Z Reasonable Doubt
11. Fugees The Score
12. Eminem The Slim Shady LP
13. 50 Cent Get Rich Or Die Tryin
14. GZA Liquid Swords
15. Ice Cube Amerikas Most Wanted
16. DMX Its Dark And Hell Is Hot
17. Big Pun Capital Punishment
18. Brotha Lynch Hung Season Of Da Siccness
19. The Game The Documentary
Before watching illmatic get rich and college dropout top 3
It's dark and hell is hot 🔥
The list isn’t bad, but no 80’s Rap albums? Big Daddy Kane, The D.O.C, Slick Rick??? Jay and Cube would be higher on my list. Where’s OB4CL? Redman’s debut deserves mention too.
Illmatic
Reasonable Doubt
AMW
The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick
RTD
The Chronic
OB4CL
No One Can Do It Better
Long Live The Kane
The College Dropout
Come on SSLP must be at least in the top 10
Big pun capital punishment and Lil Kim hardcore should at least made the honorable mentions. 🤦
Black on Both Sides? Operation Doomsday? Quik is the name? Philadelphia Freeway? Tical? Whut Thee Album?
What about
Philadelphia Freeway?
People’s Champ?
The Slim Shady LP?*
Lord Willin’?
*Was not a debut album.
@thabalancedone you're right. 👍
Can’t wait until to the female R&B debut albums list 👀
Who is on your top 10
How in the hell nelly country grammar didn't make it. The album either went diamond or very very close
Real talk . Can't forget about Vanilla Ice and Hammer debuts went diamond
Album sales do not equate to album quality. We shouldn’t have to keep saying this
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Facts !!! Thank You 4 Saying this Once again for the slow people in the back !!! 🤦🏾♂️
@@borngifted5398 yea I be damn if we give Vanilla Ice flowers just because he went diamond. At least Hammer was writing his bars and at times Hammer was actually killing it low key lol. Meanwhile Vanilla Ice got hung from a balcony for not giving proper credit 🤣
@@TheRealLeonardWashington Facts bro !!! 🤣 Alot of people hated on Hammer but he definitely was Original & was moving the genre forward. Hell the man even had Pepsi & KFC Popcorn Chicken commercials & his own Saturday morning cartoon. While Vanilla ice Went on to do rock music after getting exposed & hung out to dry 🤣 Literally !!!
Sorry if I have to be the one to state the obvious but if Nip didn't die, VL would've never made this list.
So NO mention of Paid N Full, OB4CL, Criminal Minded, or Great Adventures of Slick Rick ??? 🤔 Yeah I Don't know about this one.
Paid In Full and Criminal Minded was by A GROUP, not a solo act.
@@thablackkat9905 ok well since we being technical, then please explain OB4CL & Great Adventures then ???
No Thug Motivation 101? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ When this came was out, every car in the club parking lot was bumpin this album. None singles were huge in the club. One of the best albums ever by any south artist
Yeah forgot about that one
My Top 10:
Illmatic
Ready To Die
Reasonable Doubt
Get Rich or Die Tryin'
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
The Chronic
Doggystyle
The College Dropout
Good Kid, Maad City
Thug Motivation 101
REMOVE: Kanye West
INSERT: MR. SCARFACE IS BACK
Not ONE Southern artist????? Y'all tweakin jo.....
Man y'all really thought you did something by putting Nipsey over Lupe, Slick Rick, multiple classic Wu Tang projects, Mos Def, Redman, Cudi, MF DOOM, etc.
Let’s be honest Ready To Die is like a west coast Chronic
I remember hearing "Murder was the Case" the first time on the radio and thought Snoop Dogg died. I cried . Lol i waa only a kid.