This list was specially engineered to incite rage and violence. The way in which they effortlessly flow between a very solid pick to the most outrageous opinion on a record you have ever heard is nothing short of masterful.
@@postbloom9767 thank you! Idk what fantano was saying about it being relevant for 20 minutes. That album produced numerous huge hits that were the most circulated tracks of that year and continued to be relevant for more. It's one of the best party rap albums of that decade.
Cardi B over Nas, Dre, MF DOOM, Kendrick (execpt for TPAB) is nothing other than disrespectful to people that has shaped the genre as we know it, and shows a clear lack of understanding of the culture around hip hop. There is no excuse to even have her on the list if you're leaving out Lupe Fiasco.
i would argue that even if they did release over 200 rap albums, that does not make them the greatest😒. led zeppelin released fewer albums but all of them are 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘦
Can we all get Fantano to make his own 200 favorite albums list. That would be legendary, and I feel even if I didn't agree with some, everything would have an argument for its placement.
Whole Lotta Red was here and Fantano didn’t mention it, which proves that he does believe it’s a top 200 album and therefore believes it to be a great album. Thanks for the redux of your redux review Anthony!
illmatic is a top 10 album by basically every metric imaginable. It's my number 1, but it at least HAS to be top 10. Was shocked when I saw its placement.
@@jamiehovis7722 As a white dude myself that is not an excuse lol. If they recognize the greatness of other very non-white works, they should be able to see the obviousness of this mistake.
@@godlyMike127 you’re right, these days middle-age white guys might know better than others, that was more true 15 years ago… still, Rolling Stone has never been about the music anyway, its a bunch of english and political science majors, the last thing they care about is the music. Just look at every influential popular classic they trashed on its release (only to rewrite the review later): Led Zeppelin, Nevermind by Nirvana, Jane’s Addiction, Dirt by Alice in Chains, The Rolling Stones late sixties and early seventies work, punk rock. I can go on and on. If it was good, unless it was Iggy Pop or something, you can be sure they wrote it off.
I literally blurted "ILLMATIC" out loud when he was wondering what #1 was. It is objectively the best. You have Nas going to fucking college english dissertations over this album. It's transcended mediums of art and cultures. How the hell is it not unequivocaly #1.
Illmatic at 24 is fucking ridiculous. Easily a top 5 record at bare minimum. Many people consider it the greatest rap album of all time, myself included. A lot of people have said this already, but Cardi B above Illmatic is so unbelievably ludicrous that you instantly lose all credibility.
I thought Illmatic was going to be number 1 to be honest seemed like a safe pick, not even in the top 20 is insane, but not as insane as Little Simz placed so low, as well as missing Aesop Rock, DOOM, Rodeo by Travis and anything better from Mac Miller
The names of the creators are in the article and it's pretty diverse, hate to say it but these days it's mostly middle age white men who still know what quality HipHop actually sounds like
@@NasJuiced Where did i say that? All i know these days the music i hear people play sounds like trash and most don't know sh]t about real hip hop. since we were allready dividing people in to boxes if it's one thing you got to give to the "white man" when it comes to music is that they do give praise to the founders of a any genre, even if it can be out of snobbery
@@ShreyasKr... when i saw astroworld at 200 i knew it was some bs besides the top comments who already made fun of it. Astroworld is top 50 even tho im not a travis fan it had so mamy hits ane a very distinct sound .
They definitely made this list exactly for people like you to react to and bring traffic to the site. It's gotta be shitty on purpose. There's no way anyone would think that Illmatic is worse than Invasion of Privacy. When I first listened to Illmatic I was in awe at how good the beats and lyrics were. When I heard Invasion of Privacy I felt nothing
I was a little shocked to see John Cena's " You Can't See Me " above every Death Grips record, but I feel it's one of the few reasonable choices Rolling Stone has made lately.
They may have had their misplacements, but at least even Rolling Stone recognized the sheer brilliance and humanity displayed by Cal Chuchesta's, "The New CALasic". I agree, and think it is the #1 album of all time.
According to this and the new 500 greatest albums list, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is somehow both the tenth best hip-hop album and the tenth best overall album of all time.
Lauryn Hill is extremely influential to toms of rappers nowadays and that’s a great record, so yea actually it makes sense they put one of the most influential albums of all time in the top 10
@@TheTrueJesusChrist I’m not opposed to her being in the top ten, I just love the blatant inconsistency of these “definitive” lists. Just a few months ago, Miseducation was ranked as the 10th best album of all time, the highest ranking hip-hop record on the list. Apparently the album has aged poorly these last few months, as it’s now the 10th best hip-hop album (which is, admittedly, closer to where I would rank it).
Illmatic definitely needs to be top 10, GKMC definitely clears invasion of privacy (and some of Mac Miller’s stuff does too), Chronic, Life After Death, & a few others need to be higher
We're playing into their hands. They have to be so trash on purpose to generate controversy and discussion based upon their platform. The more we talk about it, the more they win, they suck, don't bother.
Seeing Bladee's Crest at nummber 1 really made me start to respect rolling stone again. Ecco2k did get finessed a bit by only being placed at number 5 with the record E.
Ah yes, “Ho, Why is You Here” deserves a spot on the top 200 over “808s and Heartbreak”, an album that is responsible for the sound of over a quarter of the records on this list.
Would like to know their selection process. Invasion of Privacy above Illmatic feels like one of those things that would make any music magazine editor wince at the idea of publishing, but the process had already spoken.
I think I heard on the breakfast club that there’s a committee of like 500 “music experts” that vary from producers to executives and they decide what makes the cut
i see DEL every time he comes anywhere close to Toronto. Always an amazing show. and Atmosphere, also amazing live. LOVE your videos btw. EXCELLENT format. very enticing. Please keep up the amazing work.
@@dopeswitch515 I really don’t believe that’s the case, rolling stone is a very professional, respected and long running publication. I think they literally just don’t know hip hop
@@Sophie-gn9sn their 500 albums list is just as baffling IMO, but you're 100% right that they consistently miss the mark on thoughtful or even coherent rap criticism
@@Sophie-gn9sn Neither do yall white surburban niggas. That list is horrendous but what's funny is that you are complaing about it. You are one of them, white people don't have a say on hip hop at all. It is a black genre. "To pitchfork, Rolling Stones, New York Times and any other white publication. Please do not comment on black music anymore" - Kanye West.
Not likely to happen..... unless you can get some kind of giant collab between as many TH-cam and indipendent music reviewers as possible (to get as many opinions as possible to try and mitigate bias). Because the mainstream, in this case music, media has lost touch with reality and just does whatever they think will make them the most money.
The most objective list possible would be one similar to the Sight & Sound list of best films of all time. It would involve asking say 200 or 300 of the biggest living rappers, producers, people in the industry and music critics to send their 25 favourite hip hop albums of all time. Even that might be a little controversial but not as stupid as this list
Having Lil Kim's "Hardcore" over "Illmatic" "All Eyez on Me", "The Marshall Mathers LP" and "It's Dark and Hell is Hot" is absurd. To me those four should be at our near the top 5 with BIG and Jay-Z while "Hardcore" should be somewhere in the mid 100s.
The only one of that four albums that is top 10 is Illmatic. All Eyez On Me has a lot of filler tracks (same as Life After Death) and it's not even the best Pac's album (Me Against The World). DMX and Eminem's albums are good are but not top 10.
Happy you said it Anthony. "No Aesop Rock?" I agree. Labor Days has been top 10 for me for a decade now. Nobody was spitting quite like Aes back in the 90s.
Definitely a shame. I'm not gonna freak out as hard as some people are over the list, since it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things if the voting system Rolling Stone used ended up putting a Cardi album higher than it probably should have been, but... Not even ONE Aes album? :( Impossible Kid is by far the album I've played cover to cover the most times
Labor Days and Daylight EP is what got me in back then, and solidified as time passed with releases like Fast Cars, Danger, Fine, and Knives. I love Skelethon and Impossible Kid intensely as much as his old stuff. If you havent listened to his latest Spirit World Field Guide from 2021, it's a must. Seriously might be his best album he's created. It's incredibly balanced for how long it is. Some of the songs sound similar at first but then really separate after re-listening. Storytelling is on point and varied. No features either (not even a murmur from Rob Sonic or Homeboy Sandman). Again, might be his best yet!
@@darrnellnott07 I will back this furiously back this stance. It is, no doubt, his best work. The way multiple songs on the album cross reference other tracks is sweet. "Dog at the Door" is basically TL;DR on why Aes is a genius
@@R-H-B I think Lub bers meant objectively influential. It's like saying Paul McCartney and John Lennon are a Top 10 songwriter duo because they defined what Pop songs sound like in the 60s. In the same way illmatic defined what boom-bap had to sound like in the 90s … I guess, Rolling Stone decided Wu-Tang in the Top 10 was enough …
@@R-H-B Well, you can look how many rappers changed their flow after Nas' debut (e.g. Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, Eminem's Infinite etc.) and you can listen to the beat selection from 94 onwards. You can quantify influence for sure.
So ‘Miseducation of Lauren Hill’ was the highest placing Hip Hop album on their “Greatest Albums of all time” list but was somehow only 10th in the actual “rap album list”???
@@Braylon1997 this is exactly what Shawn cee is talking about people literally gonna shit on cardi b even though it's not her fault it's just inconsistent list because idk what metrics they use for this is it sales? Because if we go by sales it doesn't make sense, and it's not influence or popularity either so yeah it feels like someone playlist just put on this list
@@brandonayong5823 That's thing tho, most people will also agree with the top ten. It's full of the safest, and for the most part the most deserving, choices. Like yeah no shit Ready To Die and Low End Theory are in the top 10.
Hey man, thanks for the insight into how the average listener would feel seeing this list. It means a lot. I was saying a lot of the same through this lol. Keep up your work, Melon. You're the busiest music nerd for a reason, Anthony.
I think what caught me by surprise the most (beside the cardi b rating) was the fact that we're missing 808's and heartbreaks from this list. Such an influential print it has had on modern day rap, it's insane to me to not have it in this list.
@@kuppakassi but it was both. Songs like Heartless, love lockdown, coldest winter, amazing, say you will, etc are all good songs while being innovative
atrocity exhibition not being on the list is absurd, personally i think its atop 50 rap album of all time given the experimental production combined with eccentric flows that lead to creating a really intriguing nightmare esthetic
I think you will like the rateyourmusic list a lot. It is a democratic list of best hiphop albums and a lot of artists that Antony says are missing are high on that list.
The list is basically a shit post intended to stir controversy and clicks. I know no one expects much from Rolling Stone these days, but it still shows a pretty incredible level of contempt for their audience. Unless the list is genuine, which might even be worse.
Agreed, this article is a commercial for Rolling Stone Mag. No matter how much "thought" they put in to it or how much it was made by committee, it's still just a cheap listicle.
Graduation- kanye west The massacre- 50 cent Rodeo and Birds in the trap- Travis scott Kids see ghosts- Kids see ghosts Man on the moon 2- kid Cudi Thank me later- drake All of these albums deserve a spot on this list
I would really LOVE IT if you could do your own Top 200 list. Why? Not because I think its necessary for the culture or anything, but to really take all of your hip hop knowledge (and obviously certain sound biases that anyone would have), and really see some quality picks and careful thought into rankings #’s, which RS obviously didn’t take into consideration.
how is the miseducation of Lauryn Hill simultaneously #10 on rolling stone's 500 greatest albums of all time and #10 on their 200 greatest hip-hop albums??
That Coup album cover was actually created before 9/11. From Wikipedia "The original cover of the album, created in June 2001 depicted Boots Riley and Pam the Funkstress destroying the twin towers of the World Trade Center using what appeared to be a detonator.[9] The apparent detonator was actually an electronic tuner. The album was originally scheduled for release in September of that year, but after the September 11 attacks, the band decided to postpone the album’s release until November, so they could create new cover art.[10]"
the modern pop stuff on this list goes beyond something like Avengers showing up on a greatest movies of all time list - if Invasion of Privacy is Endgame, City Girls and Ho Why Is You Here are like including Thor The Dark World and Ant-Man 2
lets not forget they listen city girls in top 20 hip hop groups of all time.. I cant remember which legendary groups they had them ahead of but I want to say black star and a bunch others.
I watched Shawn Cee' video about it yesterday and let's just say that he's totally right about the fact that maybe all these albums should have had a different treatment than just a Top list because people will be more focused on the rankings than the records themselves.
Yeah, I will never get this list obsession shit. Making cheap listicles (the laziest form of "journalism") out of years and years and years of hard-ass work by artists from a multitude of backgrounds doing their best to tell their stories. It's kinda shameful. You could make a list of "great albums" and then talk about them like serious pieces of music. But honestly, what the fuck is this, you're supposed to be a respected magazine. And then people in the comments urging Fantano to make his own more bestest list ever, like... nah, dude, it's lame no matter who makes them.
@@vision_is_augmented1213 "You could make a list of "great albums" and then talk about them like serious pieces of music." I always like that Roger Ebert did this for movies, sometimes re-analyzing them for his Great Movies collection. it helped me find a lot of greats, some more under the radar.
@@KorAnos1 100%, I was thinking of Ebert too. I love this way of thinking because it basically just highlights a piece of work rather than obsessively compare it with other works that it never asked to be compared to. Plus it avoids the over-analytical trap of breaking the work done into little pieces to look at them separately, instead of experiencing the movie/album as a *whole*. It also leaves room for the viewer/listener to connect with the work on their own terms. So-n-So is one of your favorite records, but according to some made-up metric, it's only 174 on "The List" or only a "decent 7", for that matter. But really, what the hell is the difference between a decent 7 and a strong 7... Better to just say "Great Record" and go from there. Also takes the pressure off the artists. We don't have to expect someone like a Kendrick to push out "10s" every day. Just... listen.
Rolling Stone learned a long time ago that they get more attention with controversial-by-design lists than genuine ones. It wouldn't be surprising if they saw the Ted Nugent-Joan Jett feud and figured they might be able to stir up some rapper beefs on top of the usual clicks they'll get.
Aging Gen Xer here. Lots of missing 90s rap. De La Soul, Digable Planets, Jungle Brothers, Ultramagnetic MC's, Pete Rock & CL Smooth's Mecca & the Soul Brother
Albums that I think should be on here: Food and liquor, the cool, mm food, atliens, midnight maurauders, 4:44, pinata, more albums from the roots, more KRS one, Train of thought, Quality, muddy waters, internal affairs, stress, B4DA$$, Death is Certain, Kiss tha game goodbye, atrocity exhibition, Tana talk 3, deltron 3030, the impossible kid, below the heavens, Taboo
@@ducatarina Get Rich or Die Tryin' might be in the top 5 if you've only heard 5 Hip Hop albums 😂 In all seriousness, that might be one of the only accurate placings in the list (even speaking as a big fan of the album)
@@franklingoodwin You don't know shit about hip-hop, That's why this list is perfect for you 😂 Top 3 Biggie, Outkast's and Jay z most overrated rapper of all time, Outkast, Wayne, Drake, Kanye, Missy, Kendrick never did an álbum in the Top 50 , Get off the drugs Get Rich Or Die Tryin, The Massacre, Power Of The Dollar, Before I Self Destruct both at the Top
@fantano Ay Anthony I wanted to point out the fact at 2:10 that CARE FOR ME is a project for therapy than anything else and really shows some truth of the matter that even albums on a top 200 of all time can leave audiences out.
For Steinski and Company Flow to make the list but Cardi B to be above it suggests to me they got the actual hip hop head to make most of the list and then scattered in the brand new intern’s favourite “hip hop” albums lol.
@@J1the1 Yea but no producers were on the list by them selves. And if we are going off of influence in creation of the Jazz-hop/lo-fi, Dilla was just as influential as Nujabes was in their beats. Both 100% deserve credit and it really should be side by side.
Brooo finally someone showing love Onyx' All We Got Iz Us album which imo is a classic. I can see how in 1995 it could've gotten overlooked with all the other Classic releases from NY alone but still. Most Def has to be one of the hardest, darkest and grimiest song ever created. The whole record is dark and deranged, guaranteed to f your day up. Da Shining, Only Built, Infamous, Doe Or Die and liquid Swords and so many more banging albuns dropped that year.
I feel like they severely underrated Travis Scott (especially rodeo) just because of the Astroworld tragedy and that’s not really fair. They even made the entire bit on Astroworld about the incident
@@ppdeef4765 no doubt, but also there’s a level of objectivity that comes with making a “top 200” list and there’s no way that some of those albums on that list are better than rodeo or astroworld
yeah - they even referenced the astroworld tragedy first thing in their description under astroworld. It's sad that an unfortunate event can take away from such an incredible artist and their respective projects.
If you don't know it, check "Home Brew - Home Brew", a New Zealand Rap LP from 2012. Definitely in my personal Top 10. Tom Scott is an incredible lyricist.
I hope Melon sees this because I'd be very interested in his response. A lot of the objectionable rankings he points out are the placement of female artist's hip hop records like Invasion of Privacy, Miss E, and while he doesn't mention the Lil Kim album, I doubt most people would rank that album that high. It's clear that Rolling Stone intentionally wanted to have the top of their list include several female hip hop artists, which is likely a goal that Fantano would share as well (especially given the makeup of his top 50 rappers list from a while back). So my question is what records by female hip hop artists SHOULD be in the top 50 instead of the ones Rolling Stone has? I think most of us agree that they got it right with Lauryn Hill in the top 10, but what are some other worthy records?
Like he said Little Simz should be higher, AT LEAST top 100. You could throw in some MC Lyte in the top 100 too. Top 50 should only have Lauryn and probably Simz. Lets be honest outside underground acts like Apani B there really isn't that much high quality hip-hop, these female MC picks from them are pandering to its fullest.
@@Kuna-xc5os artists like MC Lyte and Jean Grae are very talented, but they dont have a goat level LP in their resume sorry to say, lauren hill is really the only woman that can make the top 50
I think like the one above me said you could throw SIMBI and room 25 ( I prefer telefone) at least top 100 or at most top 50 but they are still fresh record so top 100 should be fair , maybe one of rapsody album like Laila wisdom. One of missy classics. Lil Kim album top 100? Nicki should be top 200 just for the influence. Invasion of privacy top 200 is fair too I think for the influence but not top 150.
As far as mainstream female sexual pop rap Lil Kim should have been first since she more or less gave us the first successful album of that style and Nicky and Cardi should have been below that and probably below 150 or at least below 100 since they are only 2010s artists and of course not as innovative, deep or insightful lyrically as the best MCs of the genre incluiding female MCs such as Lauryn Hill or Rapsody. Their pop rap is often very superficial and dumb lyrically so they don´t deserve to be top 100 although I think Cardi B is a little less superficial and more complex lyrically than Nicky who is often very dumb lyrically and sometimes in a very annoying way, although she is not incapable of giving us some good bars. Personally I would have included Nicky and Cardi on this list, below 100 though, but not Megan and Doja Cat since they are very recent artists. As far as feminist concious female rap I think they did well putting Lauryn Hill in the place they put her since that is the masterpiece of the genre and it was interesting that they included great albums of that style like Noname, Rapsody, MC Lyte, Queen Latifah and Little Simz. Still the Noname album should have been below 150 and not top 100 since it is a recent album. I also agree on them incluiding other great female MCs that don´t easily fit into those two categories like Eve, Salt n Peppa, and Missy Elliot although the highest Missy album they included was too high up the list in my opinion. I am glad that they included the great pioneer Rosanne Shante in the list.
I see now. Melon wasn’t giving MBDTF a 6 out of 10, he was saying it’s the 6th best hip hop record of all time, and this list proves it
underrated comment
I got it 1
Illuminati confirmed??!!?!
Yo Gordon when is HL3 dropping
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The fact Rolling Stone put Invasion of Privacy above Illmatic and Madvillainy is ridiculous.
Invasion of Privacy is good but no where close to Illmatic and Madvillainy
The fact they put that before most 90’s hip hop albums is blasphemy
@@eshansharma6010 Illmatic is regarded as the Bible of hip hop yet it’s below that dumpster fire of a rap album
@@eshansharma6010 Illmatic should have been number 1 by default
so 24 is just a joke
I didn't even check the list yet and now with that information I don't need to
This list was specially engineered to incite rage and violence. The way in which they effortlessly flow between a very solid pick to the most outrageous opinion on a record you have ever heard is nothing short of masterful.
Yeah the Rae Sremmurd inclusion was egregious.
@@earthwingbomber nah a few songs of theirs were very iconic and relevant for a long time to a lot of ppl imo
@@postbloom9767 thank you! Idk what fantano was saying about it being relevant for 20 minutes. That album produced numerous huge hits that were the most circulated tracks of that year and continued to be relevant for more. It's one of the best party rap albums of that decade.
That was the marketing teams idea 100%
@@Icegrip12 Right. Any publicity is good publicity.
Can we talk about how Illmatic and Marshall Mathers LP are ranked lower than a Cardi B album
😂😂😂😂😂 don’t get me started
There is gonna be an eminem hater saying thay are right for doing that 😂
Trashy B should never be above the GOAT of rap, Eminem.
Were already talking about it
Illmatic and Madvillainy are far better than MMLP. Eminem is very overrated, but all three should be well above Cardi B's album
This list has been perfectly crafted to generate as much rage as possible
rage = clicks
That's literally the whole point that everyone seems to be missing. Generating outrage with these lists is their bread and butter.
@@Bandstand hello mr. stand
ENGAGEMENT!
@@Bandstand clicks = money
Cardi B over Nas, Dre, MF DOOM, Kendrick (execpt for TPAB) is nothing other than disrespectful to people that has shaped the genre as we know it, and shows a clear lack of understanding of the culture around hip hop. There is no excuse to even have her on the list if you're leaving out Lupe Fiasco.
Get Rich Or Die Tryin number 64 is the problem, this shit is Top 3
Its pandering or her team probably payed them off.
I'm not even a hip-hop head, and I no that shit shouldn't even be top 100, let alone top 20...
I’m not even a massive hip hop fan (although I do love me some madvillainy from time to time), but this frustrates the hell out of me too
Shit even Cardi B over Lil Kim is wild. Hard Core is a "classic" hip hop album, I don't think Invasion of Privacy is at all but maybe I'm just old
Wow Rolling Stones released 200 rap albums too huh.
Truly the greatest band of all time.
This is why i always said the Rolling Stones were better than Beatles & Led Zeppelin
They also once upon a time dressed so fine, threw the bums a dime in their prime.
I mean if this is a TOP 200 list, there has to be EVEN MORE than 200.
If moist critikal reviewed it
i would argue that even if they did release over 200 rap albums, that does not make them the greatest😒. led zeppelin released fewer albums but all of them are 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘦
The fact that MBDTF was conveniently at 6th place when Anthony Fantano gave the album a 6/10 makes me feel like they knew what they were doing.
was about to comment this lol
It’s not top 10
@@goh02 ur right its top 5
@@okruma625 bro shut up
@@okruma625 top 5 Kanye at best lol
I had a feeling that "Total Xanarchy" would be the greatest rap album of all time
and you were right!
Bro just discovered irony and thinks it’s easy to be funny
@@yuhow1145 tf is wrong with u
Would’ve made this list so much better lol
As it should!!! 🐐
Can we all get Fantano to make his own 200 favorite albums list. That would be legendary, and I feel even if I didn't agree with some, everything would have an argument for its placement.
Agreed.
Big Puny
Absolutely
Except for the fact he is going to leave out blank face/swimming etc. On which he has the worst opinion possible, with no good argument whatsoever
@@thegreattribute2022 blank face and swimming dont deserve anything near a top 200 lmfao, good records tho
Whole Lotta Red was here and Fantano didn’t mention it, which proves that he does believe it’s a top 200 album and therefore believes it to be a great album. Thanks for the redux of your redux review Anthony!
i was almost expecting rolling stone to have put this album in the top 10 with fantano not even mentioning it for so long
@Yoo Brooo was brockhampton on this at all?
@Yoo Brooo he does kid 😭
“Which proves…” go touch grass dude…
"“Which proves…” go touch grass dude…" go touch grass dude…
illmatic is a top 10 album by basically every metric imaginable. It's my number 1, but it at least HAS to be top 10. Was shocked when I saw its placement.
its rolling stone, middle age white dudes write it
@@jamiehovis7722 As a white dude myself that is not an excuse lol. If they recognize the greatness of other very non-white works, they should be able to see the obviousness of this mistake.
@@godlyMike127 you’re right, these days middle-age white guys might know better than others, that was more true 15 years ago… still, Rolling Stone has never been about the music anyway, its a bunch of english and political science majors, the last thing they care about is the music. Just look at every influential popular classic they trashed on its release (only to rewrite the review later): Led Zeppelin, Nevermind by Nirvana, Jane’s Addiction, Dirt by Alice in Chains, The Rolling Stones late sixties and early seventies work, punk rock. I can go on and on. If it was good, unless it was Iggy Pop or something, you can be sure they wrote it off.
I literally blurted "ILLMATIC" out loud when he was wondering what #1 was. It is objectively the best. You have Nas going to fucking college english dissertations over this album. It's transcended mediums of art and cultures. How the hell is it not unequivocaly #1.
Top 5 atleast
Illmatic at 24 is fucking ridiculous. Easily a top 5 record at bare minimum. Many people consider it the greatest rap album of all time, myself included. A lot of people have said this already, but Cardi B above Illmatic is so unbelievably ludicrous that you instantly lose all credibility.
I thought Illmatic was going to be number 1 to be honest seemed like a safe pick, not even in the top 20 is insane, but not as insane as Little Simz placed so low, as well as missing Aesop Rock, DOOM, Rodeo by Travis and anything better from Mac Miller
I would say illmatic is 1, listened to it when i was 15 and still sounds as good many years later
Definitely not number 1 album of all time but 100% top 5 hiphop album
It’s not worth getting mad about. It’s a Rolling Stone list. Not your friend constantly bugging you about your taste. Get over it
Are you seriously getting offended because someone doesn't like an album as much as you
Some middle aged white men sat in a room together and said “you know, Nas is cool, but Carbi B is where it’s at!” and then they high fived each other.
Im pretty sure some middle aged white women with rainbow color hair sat there too
Pretty accurate
The names of the creators are in the article and it's pretty diverse, hate to say it but these days it's mostly middle age white men who still know what quality HipHop actually sounds like
@@inigo9000 oh yeah cuz middle aged white men have ALWAYS dominated hip-hop 😐
@@NasJuiced Where did i say that? All i know these days the music i hear people play sounds like trash and most don't know sh]t about real hip hop. since we were allready dividing people in to boxes if it's one thing you got to give to the "white man" when it comes to music is that they do give praise to the founders of a any genre, even if it can be out of snobbery
So glad that Rolling Stone has come to confirm all of our opinions that Invasion of Privacy is better than Good Kid Maad City
and *illmatic* … widely considered the worst debut record of all time by New York's worst rapper. (/s)
They didn't even include Rodeo
And 2pac All eyez on me.
@@ShreyasKr... when i saw astroworld at 200 i knew it was some bs besides the top comments who already made fun of it. Astroworld is top 50 even tho im not a travis fan it had so mamy hits ane a very distinct sound .
@@okdude8215 astroworld is a good album but absolutely not top 50. Come the fuck on, listen to more hip hop
i’d actually wanna see fantano make his own top 200 or even 500 list
I’m surprised Anthony didn’t mention how insane it is they ranked Future and Cardi B ahead of Outkast’s Aquemini
Ds2 makes sense cuz of how influential that record is, but cardi B was baffling
Future shoulda been #1
Bruuuuh
Future deserves it. You guys are just prejudiced against bad music. Shit music is just as valid as good music.
Also, btw, GBGR was 199
i was expecting "the heist" by Macklemore to be 1#
Or at least right above GKMC lol
if this had come out 7-8 years ago they would have had it on there
Wouldn't have surprised me
When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay
Now that would have been epic
no CLB, clearly rigged.
Certified Boy Lover #1
That's trash
Lmao
CLb is TRASH
CLB fucking masterpiece 😂😂
They definitely made this list exactly for people like you to react to and bring traffic to the site. It's gotta be shitty on purpose. There's no way anyone would think that Illmatic is worse than Invasion of Privacy. When I first listened to Illmatic I was in awe at how good the beats and lyrics were. When I heard Invasion of Privacy I felt nothing
illmatic is one of my all timers
@@hipski its definitely one of the albums ever
Invasion of privacy was pretty good tbh (not a cardi stan at all) but yeah above Illmatic and Madvillany is fucking crazy
@@hipski That's literally why all these lists exist. To get attention.
I was so shocked by this list that I didn't even realize such an obvious observation. That's pretty brilliant.
They didn't put Viper's undisputed record "You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack" on this list, which means it's a bogus list.
Facts
Hahaaaa
best album of all time imho
@@TheLuxma _heres a lil sumthin for all u BUSTUHZ....YEAAHHH"_
They wanna see him gone cause of his hops ffs
I was a little shocked to see John Cena's " You Can't See Me " above every Death Grips record, but I feel it's one of the few reasonable choices Rolling Stone has made lately.
Word Life
All jokes aside that song fuckin slaps
Ngl, that song is better than Xan's, Pumps, 69's entire careers
I don’t think you saw it actually, he clearly says in the title that you can’t see him
He's a Bad, Bad Man
They may have had their misplacements, but at least even Rolling Stone recognized the sheer brilliance and humanity displayed by Cal Chuchesta's, "The New CALasic". I agree, and think it is the #1 album of all time.
10:22 I'm so happy tat you mentioned Del the funky Homosapien, been re-visiting his music this year and is still amazing as always
According to this and the new 500 greatest albums list, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is somehow both the tenth best hip-hop album and the tenth best overall album of all time.
Duh, the top ten albums of all time are all hip-hop albums. 😤😤
Consistency
I was noticing stuff like this too. I feel like we can all agree that this list is ridiculously awful.
Lauryn Hill is extremely influential to toms of rappers nowadays and that’s a great record, so yea actually it makes sense they put one of the most influential albums of all time in the top 10
@@TheTrueJesusChrist I’m not opposed to her being in the top ten, I just love the blatant inconsistency of these “definitive” lists. Just a few months ago, Miseducation was ranked as the 10th best album of all time, the highest ranking hip-hop record on the list. Apparently the album has aged poorly these last few months, as it’s now the 10th best hip-hop album (which is, admittedly, closer to where I would rank it).
the audacity of Rolling Stone to put My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy as #6/10 in the Top 10
Facts it would be number 1 in my opinion
@@hypehenston2667 nah
Bruhh.........
IT WAS 6TH AS WELL
No college dropout 💀
Illmatic definitely needs to be top 10, GKMC definitely clears invasion of privacy (and some of Mac Miller’s stuff does too), Chronic, Life After Death, & a few others need to be higher
Facts but all of Kendrick's and Mac Miller's stuff clears invasion of privacy
how high did they put GKMC? I wasn’t paying attention
Cardi b doesn’t even have a top 500 album of all time.
But apparently invasion of privacy is better than illmatic 😂
@@izaqy 38 I think
glad to see All the Right Reasons by Nickelback make this list. Chad is such an underrated rapper
We're playing into their hands. They have to be so trash on purpose to generate controversy and discussion based upon their platform. The more we talk about it, the more they win, they suck, don't bother.
Ok, who cares? I like making fun and don’t give a fuck if they get traction or not.
@@thenoblepoptarttrue. Getting a fun video or two is perfectly worth Rolling Stone "winning" to me lol
@@thenoblepoptart is it fun if the list isn’t a list
@@thenoblepoptart 😁 my gf left me
Seeing Bladee's Crest at nummber 1 really made me start to respect rolling stone again. Ecco2k did get finessed a bit by only being placed at number 5 with the record E.
my top 200 rap albums all time:
1. Bladee- The Fool
2. Bladee- Crest
3. Bladee - Icedancer
4. Bladee - Trash Island
5. Bladee - E
6. Bladee- Eversince
7. Bladee - Red Light
8. Bladee - Working on Dying
9. Bladee - 333
10. Bladee -Good Luck
11. Bladee - D&G
12. Bladee- AvP
13. Bladee - Gluee
14. Bladee - Exeter
15. Yabujin - Early Works Bootleg
16. Bladee -The Glow Pt. 2
18 - 200. Carti B - WAP
Red Light at #3 was a great pick in my opinion.
@@bluebolt1844 19. 1,000 gecs 20-200. total xanarchy
you made my day
Eversince is unironucally top 15.
Ah yes, “Ho, Why is You Here” deserves a spot on the top 200 over “808s and Heartbreak”, an album that is responsible for the sound of over a quarter of the records on this list.
don't even get me started
Bro we can go on and on, how is invasion of privacy at 16?!
@@vgattani1 this list is shitty af
@@vgattani1 better than illmatic (⌐■-■)
Is 808s really rap though?
They absolutely had a very solid list as a baseline and just gave it to someone to attempt to sprinkle in recent albums
Picking divine feminine out of all of mac's albums tells me everything I need to know about this list
Yeah wtf
its a great album but he definitely had better RAP albums that deserve to be on here
Would like to know their selection process. Invasion of Privacy above Illmatic feels like one of those things that would make any music magazine editor wince at the idea of publishing, but the process had already spoken.
I think I heard on the breakfast club that there’s a committee of like 500 “music experts” that vary from producers to executives and they decide what makes the cut
most likely a mix of a lot of people they want these list to cater to the youth and to the 90s and early 2000s
cant believe rolling stone also gave mbdtf a 6 smh too perfect
i see DEL every time he comes anywhere close to Toronto. Always an amazing show. and Atmosphere, also amazing live. LOVE your videos btw. EXCELLENT format. very enticing. Please keep up the amazing work.
Glad to see Viper filling all 200 slots. Man has such an incredible and vast discography. Truly da 🐐no 🧢.
"F**k Tha Rules Im Driving On Rainbow Road In Reverse" is unironically one of the top 50 rap songs i've ever heard.
You’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Crack is a classic.
either Ready & Willing or Hiram Clarke Hustler would legitimately be in my top 200. the man was on another wave from ‘06-‘08.
Putting Thanksgivin in front of Ready and Willing is a lil bold
I got married to the soundtrack of Cops Can't Read II
This list has to be satire. There is no way a group of individuals came together and unironically brain stormed to come up with this.
It's to generate controversy and get clicks, homie
@@dopeswitch515 I really don’t believe that’s the case, rolling stone is a very professional, respected and long running publication. I think they literally just don’t know hip hop
@@Sophie-gn9sn their 500 albums list is just as baffling IMO, but you're 100% right that they consistently miss the mark on thoughtful or even coherent rap criticism
When you try to please everyone you end up with something for no one
@@Sophie-gn9sn Neither do yall white surburban niggas. That list is horrendous but what's funny is that you are complaing about it. You are one of them, white people don't have a say on hip hop at all. It is a black genre. "To pitchfork, Rolling Stones, New York Times and any other white publication. Please do not comment on black music anymore" - Kanye West.
Someone will eventually make a list we can all SILENTLY disagree on but respect and understand
Not likely to happen..... unless you can get some kind of giant collab between as many TH-cam and indipendent music reviewers as possible (to get as many opinions as possible to try and mitigate bias). Because the mainstream, in this case music, media has lost touch with reality and just does whatever they think will make them the most money.
The most objective list possible would be one similar to the Sight & Sound list of best films of all time. It would involve asking say 200 or 300 of the biggest living rappers, producers, people in the industry and music critics to send their 25 favourite hip hop albums of all time. Even that might be a little controversial but not as stupid as this list
The rym charts lmao
@@EclecticoIconoclasta I need it. and AGRIZZLE! TF IS WRONG WITH THIS PUBLICATION??
@@Ardnightian TPAB is just ranked like 1000 spots too high on the RYM chart. Aside from that it's a solid chart
Having Lil Kim's "Hardcore" over "Illmatic" "All Eyez on Me", "The Marshall Mathers LP" and "It's Dark and Hell is Hot" is absurd. To me those four should be at our near the top 5 with BIG and Jay-Z while "Hardcore" should be somewhere in the mid 100s.
Ready to Die doesn't deserve any lower than top 10
The only one of that four albums that is top 10 is Illmatic. All Eyez On Me has a lot of filler tracks (same as Life After Death) and it's not even the best Pac's album (Me Against The World). DMX and Eminem's albums are good are but not top 10.
@@Bronn92 the Marshall Mathers lp gotta be top 15 and I ain't even really a fan. That record was huge and very influential.
Having invasion of midvacy over "illmatic" it's obviously worse, idk
@@Bronn92 DMX’s “It’s Dark and Hell Is Hot” is 100% a top 10 contender.
He called MBDTF “great” therefore it is now a 10!
He said it was a 6 multiple times, I think this is really what he meant
Happy you said it Anthony. "No Aesop Rock?" I agree. Labor Days has been top 10 for me for a decade now. Nobody was spitting quite like Aes back in the 90s.
Definitely a shame. I'm not gonna freak out as hard as some people are over the list, since it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things if the voting system Rolling Stone used ended up putting a Cardi album higher than it probably should have been, but...
Not even ONE Aes album? :(
Impossible Kid is by far the album I've played cover to cover the most times
100%. Aesop is definitely one of the most artists of all time.@@suspectsn0thing
Labor Days and Daylight EP is what got me in back then, and solidified as time passed with releases like Fast Cars, Danger, Fine, and Knives. I love Skelethon and Impossible Kid intensely as much as his old stuff.
If you havent listened to his latest Spirit World Field Guide from 2021, it's a must. Seriously might be his best album he's created. It's incredibly balanced for how long it is. Some of the songs sound similar at first but then really separate after re-listening. Storytelling is on point and varied. No features either (not even a murmur from Rob Sonic or Homeboy Sandman). Again, might be his best yet!
@@darrnellnott07 I will back this furiously back this stance. It is, no doubt, his best work. The way multiple songs on the album cross reference other tracks is sweet. "Dog at the Door" is basically TL;DR on why Aes is a genius
I think illmatic is undeniably, and objectively at least a top 5 rap album EVER. There’s no way it should be so low…
And they put Jay-Z's Blueprint on No.3 to piss off every last NaS fan even more.
Not objectively. No music is objectively good. That being said, Illmatic would totally be in most peoples top 20
@@R-H-B I think Lub bers meant objectively influential. It's like saying Paul McCartney and John Lennon are a Top 10 songwriter duo because they defined what Pop songs sound like in the 60s.
In the same way illmatic defined what boom-bap had to sound like in the 90s … I guess, Rolling Stone decided Wu-Tang in the Top 10 was enough …
@@jf1573 true, but you can’t quantify influence
@@R-H-B Well, you can look how many rappers changed their flow after Nas' debut (e.g. Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, Eminem's Infinite etc.) and you can listen to the beat selection from 94 onwards. You can quantify influence for sure.
So ‘Miseducation of Lauren Hill’ was the highest placing Hip Hop album on their “Greatest Albums of all time” list but was somehow only 10th in the actual “rap album list”???
It's more of an rnb album than rap so it shouldn't be here( not saying it isn't an incredible album)
Shouldnt be top 10 here it's more r&b
@@cynthia9813fr
The fact MBDTF is #6, This was really targeted for Melon.
turns out Melon's review was just foreshadowing
I didn’t know The Rolling Stones had 200+ albums.
Thats just their rap projects too
@@markt5090 and this is just the 200 best of them
They also invented Rhythm and Blues … Twist and Shout was a real banger!
Shows how great of a band they are
They put “Live.Love.A$AP” with the “Long.Live.A$AP” cover on there. That’s what I need to know
they have to be trolling
@@iloveromplers Nah, just out of touch boomer fucks with a platform
Illmatic is the MJ of hip hop albums
Putting it any lower than 3 is a red flag
💀💀💀💀💀
@@yJamalzWhat? He is definetly right.
@@devilbehindthewheels not really I belive there is many better albums
So happy to see WLR at that number 1 spot. They really did get things right for once!
So glad they put Limp Bizkit's Significant Other at the top, truly deserving of the number 1 spot and gets overlooked so much
Hahaha limp bizkit made the list?
Durst spits hot fyre!
@@williampusey8266 solright
damn, now you mf's got a reason to jump!
LB's best work
Props to them for basically randomising the order of this list whole 200 until the top 10. They knew how get people MAD with this batshit order
8:29 He’s saying No as many times Chance does in his intro for Acid Rain. What a homage.
"Definetly a record. Would I have placed it higher; probably." Is my favourite review that Anthony has ever given to a record.
What’s crazy is that the coup designed that cover in June 2001 and had to postpone the release until November to design a new one after 9/11
That’s gotta be the most unlucky shit ever hahaha
Boots also asked the label to keep it lol
@@fantano hi
Obviously this means Coup did 9/11 wake up sheeple
@@fantano where’s wlr tho?
How is any Cardi B album higher than Illmatic?
Cardi fans think sales and accolades are better than Illmatic
@@Braylon1997 this is exactly what Shawn cee is talking about people literally gonna shit on cardi b even though it's not her fault it's just inconsistent list because idk what metrics they use for this is it sales? Because if we go by sales it doesn't make sense, and it's not influence or popularity either so yeah it feels like someone playlist just put on this list
@@Braylon1997 I don't think even her fans think that. This L isn't on Cardi or her fans, it's entirely on Rolling Stone magazine.
@@asadasss263 People are gonna hate on Cardi B cause her music is subpar lol
@@asadasss263 true but this is also rolling stone we’re talking about as well. They’re not very credible when it comes to ranking hip hop albums.
Cardi B being 16 is Egregious and I really liked that album, although should've never beaten Astroworld for the Grammy.
One of the reasons I love Anthony is he will actualize my hatred of Rolling Stones lists in video form
I mean he agrees with most of the top 10
Can’t wait for the top 200 rock albums of all time just to see them put every album from Imagine Dragons in the top 50
@@brandonayong5823 That's thing tho, most people will also agree with the top ten. It's full of the safest, and for the most part the most deserving, choices. Like yeah no shit Ready To Die and Low End Theory are in the top 10.
@@brandonayong5823 great so 5% of the list checks out, now about the rest...
@@KaRaTeLoRd11PS3 nickel back and imagine dragons top 5
Hey man, thanks for the insight into how the average listener would feel seeing this list. It means a lot. I was saying a lot of the same through this lol. Keep up your work, Melon. You're the busiest music nerd for a reason, Anthony.
No Aesop Rock, Denzel Curry or Injury Reserve is such a huge series of misses. Cardi B above TPAB is a tragedy
edit: I goofed, I meant above GKMC
Cardi is below tpab
Invasion of Privacy was 16, TBAP was 5
cardi b is above GKMC
Aesop rock and Denzel curry are both garbage.
The amount of records placed before Illmatic and MMLP is literally fucking insane.
GOATED list. Can’t believe Tupac came back just to give this list his seal of approval
GOATED list ??
@@ducatarina and what do you think about Tupac's approval of this list? We want to know
@@manaspradhan8041 I think that All Eyez On Me should be in the top 5, Me Against The World and Makaveli Top 20
I think what caught me by surprise the most (beside the cardi b rating) was the fact that we're missing 808's and heartbreaks from this list.
Such an influential print it has had on modern day rap, it's insane to me to not have it in this list.
that's what i was thinking, so strange to not have an album as pioneering as 808s
It wasn’t a hip hop album that’s why
@@Metooyou1975 But "Planet Her" is on the list
Influential doesn't mean good
@@kuppakassi but it was both. Songs like Heartless, love lockdown, coldest winter, amazing, say you will, etc are all good songs while being innovative
I’d love to see Anthony make his own top 200
Invasion of privacy over Good Kid Maad City, Illmatic, The Chronic, Graduation, Mad Villainy, Aquemini, and TMMLP is criminal
Fantano should make his own list of top 50 Hip Hop Records
Kinda can’t win making a list like that. It’s too hard to rank albums against each other over 40 years
my dear sir/madame i doth agree!
He shouldn't because we know he won't ever put mbdtf in his Top 50
Kinda invested in this, probably not ranked (just alphabetical order) but it's surely would be cool to see
If u think MBDTF will be on there don’t hold your breath
atrocity exhibition not being on the list is absurd, personally i think its atop 50 rap album of all time given the experimental production combined with eccentric flows that lead to creating a really intriguing nightmare esthetic
I think you will like the rateyourmusic list a lot. It is a democratic list of best hiphop albums and a lot of artists that Antony says are missing are high on that list.
@Yoo Brooo they had xxx
@Yoo Brooo XXX is there
For real, XXX but no Atrocity Exhibition? No other hip hop album sounds like AE
Danny's 3rd best album
The list is basically a shit post intended to stir controversy and clicks. I know no one expects much from Rolling Stone these days, but it still shows a pretty incredible level of contempt for their audience.
Unless the list is genuine, which might even be worse.
Probably genuine, because it was probably put together by committee, not by a single person
Agreed, this article is a commercial for Rolling Stone Mag. No matter how much "thought" they put in to it or how much it was made by committee, it's still just a cheap listicle.
Graduation- kanye west
The massacre- 50 cent
Rodeo and Birds in the trap- Travis scott
Kids see ghosts- Kids see ghosts
Man on the moon 2- kid Cudi
Thank me later- drake
All of these albums deserve a spot on this list
how was there no kid kudi lol
@@dukeandhazzard2721 his first album MOTM 1 did make the list it was at rank #92 or somewhere around there
@@daniel_h0420 ah kids see ghosts and MOTM 2 definitely deserve a spot
KSG is the only one that deserves a spot out of these, maybe graduation
@@290coolkid no Rodeo ?😢
Del is one of the most underrated MC's of all time.
Illmatic not being top 5 is a fucking disgrace and immediately disqualifies the list.
So true
Facts
Mad?
The perfect 2 am video
fr
we should go to sleep soon
@@cobygilbert9818 we should, but will we??
yes goodnight
I don't know much about hiphop but your recommendations are spot on, time to make your own list
I would really LOVE IT if you could do your own Top 200 list. Why? Not because I think its necessary for the culture or anything, but to really take all of your hip hop knowledge (and obviously certain sound biases that anyone would have), and really see some quality picks and careful thought into rankings #’s, which RS obviously didn’t take into consideration.
no Lupe Fiasco is an absolute crime
no lupe??? have they heard a rap song before?
Who cares about Lupe fiasco go listen to Hiphop, where is Krs One Criminal Minded WTF
@@ducatarina how hard of an old head someone had to be to make such a statement
@@ducatarina you're a disgrace to hip hop if you have the audacity to reject The Cool and Food and liquor like that
Shame on you.
@@Gintoki_Madao and Tetsuo and Youth and Drogas Wave
how is the miseducation of Lauryn Hill simultaneously #10 on rolling stone's 500 greatest albums of all time and #10 on their 200 greatest hip-hop albums??
The mistake you are making is expecting it all to make sense 🤣
3:45 Them putting Lil Xan’s Total Xanarchy this low is absolutely criminal
The fact that not a SINGLE LUPE FIASCO RECORD made it on that list is just fucking laughable.
The Cool is top 20 of all time idc
T&Y >
His first two albums at the very least
@@id1550 even tetsuo and young and drogas wave came through 💪
Lupe a had a good discography. The Cool, Food and Liqour, Tetsuo & Youth (Maybe the best 2010s rap album) and Drogas Wave.
That Coup album cover was actually created before 9/11. From Wikipedia "The original cover of the album, created in June 2001 depicted Boots Riley and Pam the Funkstress destroying the twin towers of the World Trade Center using what appeared to be a detonator.[9] The apparent detonator was actually an electronic tuner. The album was originally scheduled for release in September of that year, but after the September 11 attacks, the band decided to postpone the album’s release until November, so they could create new cover art.[10]"
the modern pop stuff on this list goes beyond something like Avengers showing up on a greatest movies of all time list - if Invasion of Privacy is Endgame, City Girls and Ho Why Is You Here are like including Thor The Dark World and Ant-Man 2
Lol great analogy.
Ant man 2 was ok, it just was released at the worst time possible
Ho Why Is You Here slaps
lets not forget they listen city girls in top 20 hip hop groups of all time.. I cant remember which legendary groups they had them ahead of but I want to say black star and a bunch others.
Having Bastard at 118 rather than any other Tyler record is crazy
I watched Shawn Cee' video about it yesterday and let's just say that he's totally right about the fact that maybe all these albums should have had a different treatment than just a Top list because people will be more focused on the rankings than the records themselves.
True, but that's also the main reason RS made these lists
They want all the clicks
Yeah, I will never get this list obsession shit. Making cheap listicles (the laziest form of "journalism") out of years and years and years of hard-ass work by artists from a multitude of backgrounds doing their best to tell their stories. It's kinda shameful. You could make a list of "great albums" and then talk about them like serious pieces of music. But honestly, what the fuck is this, you're supposed to be a respected magazine.
And then people in the comments urging Fantano to make his own more bestest list ever, like... nah, dude, it's lame no matter who makes them.
@@vision_is_augmented1213 "You could make a list of "great albums" and then talk about them like serious pieces of music."
I always like that Roger Ebert did this for movies, sometimes re-analyzing them for his Great Movies collection. it helped me find a lot of greats, some more under the radar.
@@KorAnos1 100%, I was thinking of Ebert too. I love this way of thinking because it basically just highlights a piece of work rather than obsessively compare it with other works that it never asked to be compared to. Plus it avoids the over-analytical trap of breaking the work done into little pieces to look at them separately, instead of experiencing the movie/album as a *whole*. It also leaves room for the viewer/listener to connect with the work on their own terms.
So-n-So is one of your favorite records, but according to some made-up metric, it's only 174 on "The List" or only a "decent 7", for that matter. But really, what the hell is the difference between a decent 7 and a strong 7...
Better to just say "Great Record" and go from there. Also takes the pressure off the artists. We don't have to expect someone like a Kendrick to push out "10s" every day. Just... listen.
Glad to see the pioneering Randy "Macho Man" Savage album "Be A Man" made it in the top 3. He truly did see Hogan dancing around like a ballerina
Rolling Stone learned a long time ago that they get more attention with controversial-by-design lists than genuine ones. It wouldn't be surprising if they saw the Ted Nugent-Joan Jett feud and figured they might be able to stir up some rapper beefs on top of the usual clicks they'll get.
Aging Gen Xer here. Lots of missing 90s rap. De La Soul, Digable Planets, Jungle Brothers, Ultramagnetic MC's, Pete Rock & CL Smooth's Mecca & the Soul Brother
Fantano, would love to see your list of 200. That would actually be a lot more meaningful to me!
Albums that I think should be on here: Food and liquor, the cool, mm food, atliens, midnight maurauders, 4:44, pinata, more albums from the roots, more KRS one, Train of thought, Quality, muddy waters, internal affairs, stress, B4DA$$, Death is Certain, Kiss tha game goodbye, atrocity exhibition, Tana talk 3, deltron 3030, the impossible kid, below the heavens, Taboo
No Krs One Criminal Minded WTF, 4.44 Maybe Top 100
We have Operation Doomsday as well as Criminal Minded on the list
@@regirayquaza I didn't notice that thanks for pointing that out
Anthony please, make your own 200 rap & hip hop album list
didn’t expect you to agree with total xanarchy at number one, but great video!
Reasonable Doubt & illmatic being at 26 & 24 is just a spit in the face
Reasonable Doubt is Top 20, the problem is a Top 5 álbum like Get Rich Or Die Tryin at number 64
Illmatic should be number 1
@@ducatarina Get Rich or Die Tryin' might be in the top 5 if you've only heard 5 Hip Hop albums 😂 In all seriousness, that might be one of the only accurate placings in the list (even speaking as a big fan of the album)
@@franklingoodwin You don't know shit about hip-hop, That's why this list is perfect for you 😂 Top 3 Biggie, Outkast's and Jay z most overrated rapper of all time, Outkast, Wayne, Drake, Kanye, Missy, Kendrick never did an álbum in the Top 50 , Get off the drugs Get Rich Or Die Tryin, The Massacre, Power Of The Dollar, Before I Self Destruct both at the Top
3:07 Fantano literally asked: "Ho, Why you is here?" by Flo Mili
I don't people understand how insane Illmatic was when it released, what an oversight to put this outside the top 5
Most people have it in their top 3 at least
@fantano Ay Anthony I wanted to point out the fact at 2:10 that CARE FOR ME is a project for therapy than anything else and really shows some truth of the matter that even albums on a top 200 of all time can leave audiences out.
For Steinski and Company Flow to make the list but Cardi B to be above it suggests to me they got the actual hip hop head to make most of the list and then scattered in the brand new intern’s favourite “hip hop” albums lol.
For real. And the public enemy record top 5, some of these picks weren’t made by casuals.
Cardi B above Company Flow's "Funcrusher Plus"? I can't take this list seriously, lol
I also think Nujabes should have gotten a slot on there considering his influence and arguable creation of lo-fi fusion hip hop
Battle cry is so good
modal soul needed to be mentioned
If Nujabes is on the list, J-Dilla has to be to. As equally influential.
@@tehcrazGaming technically J Dilla was on the list with Fantastic Vol. 2 - Slum Village
@@J1the1 Yea but no producers were on the list by them selves. And if we are going off of influence in creation of the Jazz-hop/lo-fi, Dilla was just as influential as Nujabes was in their beats. Both 100% deserve credit and it really should be side by side.
Chino XL ‘Here To Save You All’ is one of the most criminally underated lyrical albums of ALL TIME
(If you know, you know)
Finally!! A true head here.
“RIIIIOT” is one of the most savage tracks of all time.
That album is a classic from start to finish, Chino XL is a top tier lyricist
I feel like most people know about Chino XL because of Hit Em Up , that's where i found out about him
That boy needs to drop more!
Brooo finally someone showing love Onyx' All We Got Iz Us album which imo is a classic. I can see how in 1995 it could've gotten overlooked with all the other Classic releases from NY alone but still. Most Def has to be one of the hardest, darkest and grimiest song ever created. The whole record is dark and deranged, guaranteed to f your day up. Da Shining, Only Built, Infamous, Doe Or Die and liquid Swords and so many more banging albuns dropped that year.
I feel like they severely underrated Travis Scott (especially rodeo) just because of the Astroworld tragedy and that’s not really fair. They even made the entire bit on Astroworld about the incident
True, but at the same time he should suffer some consequences for the incident
@@ppdeef4765 no doubt, but also there’s a level of objectivity that comes with making a “top 200” list and there’s no way that some of those albums on that list are better than rodeo or astroworld
yeah - they even referenced the astroworld tragedy first thing in their description under astroworld. It's sad that an unfortunate event can take away from such an incredible artist and their respective projects.
If you don't know it, check "Home Brew - Home Brew", a New Zealand Rap LP from 2012. Definitely in my personal Top 10. Tom Scott is an incredible lyricist.
Avantdale bowling club , utterly amazing album
tom scott on youtube ?
@@aerpods 15,300 subscribers, not the other one.
I hope Melon sees this because I'd be very interested in his response.
A lot of the objectionable rankings he points out are the placement of female artist's hip hop records like Invasion of Privacy, Miss E, and while he doesn't mention the Lil Kim album, I doubt most people would rank that album that high. It's clear that Rolling Stone intentionally wanted to have the top of their list include several female hip hop artists, which is likely a goal that Fantano would share as well (especially given the makeup of his top 50 rappers list from a while back).
So my question is what records by female hip hop artists SHOULD be in the top 50 instead of the ones Rolling Stone has? I think most of us agree that they got it right with Lauryn Hill in the top 10, but what are some other worthy records?
Like he said Little Simz should be higher, AT LEAST top 100. You could throw in some MC Lyte in the top 100 too. Top 50 should only have Lauryn and probably Simz. Lets be honest outside underground acts like Apani B there really isn't that much high quality hip-hop, these female MC picks from them are pandering to its fullest.
@@Kuna-xc5os artists like MC Lyte and Jean Grae are very talented, but they dont have a goat level LP in their resume sorry to say, lauren hill is really the only woman that can make the top 50
I think like the one above me said you could throw SIMBI and room 25 ( I prefer telefone) at least top 100 or at most top 50 but they are still fresh record so top 100 should be fair , maybe one of rapsody album like Laila wisdom. One of missy classics. Lil Kim album top 100? Nicki should be top 200 just for the influence. Invasion of privacy top 200 is fair too I think for the influence but not top 150.
Nicki Minaj's Pink Friday was also top 50 which I also think would widely be considered an overrating, even if she belongs in the top 200.
As far as mainstream female sexual pop rap Lil Kim should have been first since she more or less gave us the first successful album of that style and Nicky and Cardi should have been below that and probably below 150 or at least below 100 since they are only 2010s artists and of course not as innovative, deep or insightful lyrically as the best MCs of the genre incluiding female MCs such as Lauryn Hill or Rapsody. Their pop rap is often very superficial and dumb lyrically so they don´t deserve to be top 100 although I think Cardi B is a little less superficial and more complex lyrically than Nicky who is often very dumb lyrically and sometimes in a very annoying way, although she is not incapable of giving us some good bars. Personally I would have included Nicky and Cardi on this list, below 100 though, but not Megan and Doja Cat since they are very recent artists. As far as feminist concious female rap I think they did well putting Lauryn Hill in the place they put her since that is the masterpiece of the genre and it was interesting that they included great albums of that style like Noname, Rapsody, MC Lyte, Queen Latifah and Little Simz. Still the Noname album should have been below 150 and not top 100 since it is a recent album. I also agree on them incluiding other great female MCs that don´t easily fit into those two categories like Eve, Salt n Peppa, and Missy Elliot although the highest Missy album they included was too high up the list in my opinion. I am glad that they included the great pioneer Rosanne Shante in the list.
2001 definitely deserved it's spot. If only because you can listen to the whole thing from beginning to end multiple times.
Still NOT better than the Chronic which you can listen to from front to back as well.