How does our custom made inline-6 drive?
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In this episode we drop the inline-6 that we made out of two pieces of Lada engine into a car and go for a drive.
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Please put this into a regular car, and measure the torque and power! I think many people are interested in how much you improved the original 4 cylinder engine. Please make this happen!
ye i am 100% for it
Yes, he needs to put it on a dyno.
Yes yes!
Me too 👍👍
They forgot about this engine now.....(
Y'all should make an inline 8 with the two halves timed either 90* or 180* out of phase from each other... Wonder how that would sound with a basic straight pipe on it...
Trying to see a group of Russians make a V10 engine out of Lada parts would also be quite entertaining.
@@jwalster9412 I second that. Or even a V12 or V16 :)
Wouldn't it better if the same matching piston fires at the dame time???
@@DigBipper188 there is nothing better than a V10..
@@jwalster9412 v12
I woul love to see a drag race between a stock Lada and a Lada fitted with the 6 cylinder engine
Reminds me of TG when Richard Hammond said "I'll hold up this rock and as it's eroded by the wind it'll give us some idea how long it's been.
Or the Ladzilla!
The 6 cylinder thats clearly down on 2 lol
If you continue to have issue use an annealed copper plate for a hesdgasket. It will seal much better than a fiber gasket and can help with minor imperfections
@@animalmother9339 the copper spray works liek a charm when applied to both sides of the gasket
That'd work quite well. not to mention it can be re-used too if they need to remove the heads by just annealing the gasket again.
@Ouchwitz Summer Camp LLC been watching a while. They're definitely learning as they go, maybe a few Years ago they would have.
@@animalmother9339 works great I've used it on several rebuilds. Not as good as an actual copper gasket tho.
@@animalmother9339 ive used it tons on small engine builds. It helps transfer heat better but cleaning it off and old build sucks
You guys have to try making even more exotic engine configurations like X pattern or slightly easier H or U pattern engines. With enough welding and Lada engines anything is possible.
It will need major oil modification. Engines don't do well upside down.
Or they can make a crossplane inline 4 engine like in yamaha r1. How can that sounds made from lada engine.
@@dragonplatform +1 for cross plane that would sound so good 📈
@@georgekurgansky5986 you could create a form of X engine using 2 VR engines around 160° apart
That would be in line with Vlads philosophy “when in doubt: add more Lada engines”, and it will obviously still defy every aspect of practicality and efficiency.
Part 2 of Vlads philosophy is “when out of Lada engines: Add some Russian babes”. My motto is When In Doubt Add More Chinese Girls, proves that great minds think alike.
What about making a V8 from two 4 cylinder engine blocks?
I like this channel a lot, and the crazy ideas they come up with.
Put two side by side and join them with chain drives front and rear with the engines phased 180 opposite each other and sync phased to see if it makes a power difference 🤔
It would be interesting to pit that 6 into an otherwise unmodified car that would have gad the stock 4 it started with. Then you can compare stock to your upgrade more directly.
Or race this one to their Ladzilla
I don't think its running on 6 cylinders, if as I think you have one spark plug piggy backed of another one then only one will spark as electricity will always take the easiest path. You need to modify the ignition system.
All they have to do is modify any 6cyl distributor to have the lada base, they are easily capable of doing this, hopefully they do.
They need to use the ignition system from a old BMW or Jeep
@@twoeightythreez no, this thing does not fire even at 120 deg intervals
@@kjetiloftedal338 yeah, i was thinking the same. One in top of the other. And 2 cylinders fire at the same time in big bang style😂
@@malancaluciano1253 better try old l6 distributor because it never will work since you need 120° for spark and you will got 180° dosent matter how many distributors you install.
Use that two cylinder engine you made before as a compressor to supercharge the inline six
why not combine the 6 cylinder and 2 cylinder engine to make a new 8 cylinder straight?
2 cylinders worth of air is only 1/3 what the inline 6 uses. it would be a net loss. you would need to switch it to the 6 cylinder pumping into the 2 cylinder engine for 3x the air
@@jasonharrison25 Or use gears to overdrive it
Use a wrecked rotory as a supercharger
The supercharger would need to run at a higher speed, and the camshaft modified to 2-stroke. Traditionally such air feed cylinders were of large diameter and also double acting.
Make another 6cyl from Lada engines, then make those two 6cyl engines in to a glorious Lada V12.
you were only going to get 50% more of "not alot of power", but absolutely amazing the fact that this chopped and welded engine runs. well done guys.
Right? They only claim 73hp new. Those motors were definitely not new. Weld 4 entire motors together and they still won't be making a bunch of power
@@mikedrop4421 there is a lot of losses. It's not even 50 %. I would be surprised if it even kept the power of 4 cylinders.
@@NeroKoso oh I know. My point was that even if you made a fully functional w16 with no loss its not even gonna break the 300hp mark
I'd love to see you guys make a mid-engine/rear engine front wheel drive car
Lol, burnout king!
The worst way of any car. Weight over the unpowered wheels xD
@@freddieparrydrums isn't fr the same then
@@freddieparrydrums Yes! imagine that car, driveshaft going in the middle from rear to front wheels
@@drakeyyy but when its accelerating the weight shift backwards so its provinding more grip to the rear, comapred to an RF engine
These guys do it all, even when they probably shouldn't, lol, that car looks like some sort of bug getting ready to pounce on ya, lol, great video guys, thanks for sharing.
My Mind :D
The fact that, that engine is overheating in that cold is astonishing
I would love to see a fully hydraulic build. Hydraulic pump on the motor, no physical connection to the rear axle just a hydraulic motor. If you could get a variable displacement pump you would have a massive range of gear ratios cvt style.
Or torque converter.
This could possibly be an astounding thing to see.. Certainly interesting as an idea.
@@DemetrisIacovides I've seen it done in wild 4 wheel independent drive rock crawlers but never in an on road vehicle. Curious what type of efficiency loss they would have.
You need wheel hub gears for it to work with axial type hydraulic motors, adequate radial types are too expensive and still need about 0.5 rpm to start pulling, would still be problematic to get it rolling. Forklifts use axial motors and hub gear, feels redundant to point out how slow they are.
i do agree too! 👌👍
Would love to see this engine in a 'normal' Lada, it would be pretty cool.
Well, for a bodged up/welded up heap of scrap, that thing does a pretty good job - - - Of sounding like a classic VW Beetle!
Now, how about making an 8 cylinder version? - Run the cranks timed at 90 degrees out of sync with each other, but otherwise run as two engines with synchronised throttles and separate manifolds.
You forgot to mention the twin turbos
I feel like theve done that before
A lada with 2 engines on the front
It would be great to see them making some power with these engine mock ups, and preferably in a car that is not a total jalopy.
@@themightydrive6694 They've definitely done multi-engine Ladas, but what I'm suggesting is to join two, four cylinder engines together in the same vein as this "one-and-a-half" engine arrangement, and so that the engine blocks, and the crankshafts are welded solidly together as single units. In effect, a straight-eight.
@@28YorkshireRose12
They’ve literally done that
Just search up 2 engine lada and youll find it
Add individual carburetors to each piston it could help increase the power and it would look cool
1 bucket fuel per mile 😋🤣 whit that consept
Man that translator is funny.
I love how he changes his voice for different people talking...
EPIC!
Its how dubbing of movies is done in Russia and several easteuropean countries. In the west it was known as Polish Dubbing. Keeping the original dialogue as background sound is also very common in Russia.
For bigger high budget foreign productions i believe its common for Russia to have several voice actors for each movie but each will still portray several characters each.
When a spark plug fires, the voltage across it drops from 15-20kV to about 1500V for the remaining duration of the spark. This motor has the plugs for the two additional cylinders connected to two existing plugs. That means when one of the paired plugs fires it will steal the voltage needed for the other plug to fire. It is rare for two plugs to fire at exactly the same voltage, so whichever one fires easiest will prevent it's mate from firing. So the motor will not consistently run very well.
Would it be possible to change the alternator, battery, and/or coil to increase voltage?
@@TM-dh2xb 6-cylinder distributor and single coils would be my idea but IDK never build a 6cylinder lada
if planning part 3 of the inline 6 engine I would love to see upgraded cooling, maybe find a better, more precise way of distributing spark, maybe that's one of the problems for not always working on 6 cylinders.
Expecting a part 3
Cheers :D
Loved the snowball at the end! Great bunch of guys.
Am bouta drop a tear , been waiting for this for a whole month ..
I love his enthusiasm, and optimism.
It even sounds good at heart. Some fit and finish and it would be fairly impressive!
That thing looks so crazy!!!
I love these guys, the creativity is top tier!
12:12 Is just the perfect summary of a Lada. I love it.
I would love to see you guys do a draw through carburetor and turbo you would have massive gains from boosting more displacement. Just 10 psi would be safe and have a big impact
Need a bigger exhaust to get rid of exhaust gasses more efficiently, could be chokin power with the tiny lada exhaust
I disagree, bigger will not be significantly better before you reach high revs, even a classic Alfa Romeo twincam will run great on tiny exhaust until the revs get to about 6000-8000. For a Lada at max 4000 rpm the problem will never surface.
TUUUUUURRRRRRRBO!
That is all.
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That's a whole Lada Beast. Nice. Well done Garage 54. Thanks for sharing.
Super long unlikely suggestion: Inline 12 next and then v24 after that. Then you can run the motor through the cabin, no drive shaft, and put another lada cabin on top for the driver and passengers
They already did an inline 12 and 16
@@thehulkamaniabrother2.089 that was 3 separate engines with 3 different crankshafts, heads, etc.
Basically a tank at that point 😂
@GABRIELLA no one cares dude
@@jetink600 I believe if you weld 3 crankshafts together it becomes one crankshaft...
I wonder with the improved balance of the engine, if it might be worth making more sporty camshafts, I wonder if that would work.
Love seeing what you guys come up with.
BTW I have two sons who I adopted in Izhevsk 25 years ago. They've grown into a couple of fine young men.
what a awesome job you did, it only miss a adapted ignition system , and then you will be able to run a test beetween the stock 4cyl lada and the l6 G54 version .
i do say 120hp for the l6 G54 !
Id love to see this engine get developed more like efi system better headgasket turbo? Put it in a drift car like a treu 2j and see how it goes
Now that I think about it, I have never seen an in-line 8-cylinder engine, it would be very interesting to see
They were a thing many moons ago but probably not seen in cars since the 50s or even the 40s! I believe a lot of military and larger commercial vehicles used I8 engines up into the 70s though.
Interesting idea, I'd love to see a straight 8 Lada!
There's a reason for that, torsional rigidity or lack of it, plus the length of the thing, they were hard to package in an aero shell, eg the Tatra T77/87/600/603 use a V8 and even then they chose a RR drivetrain for aero, noise reduction and space.
These guys always amaze me.
I love in-line sixes! Now every Lada will want one!
Put it on o normal lada and see the difference on the road
1 HT lead can NEVER fire two spark plugs. It will choose 1 ground(spark plug) each time it fires.
I have tried something similar before and it failed for this reason😂
I suppose even if it did split between two plugs they'd be pretty feeble sparks 😂
Lookup how a wasted spark works. Thats the only way i ever got two sparks from 1 ht lead
That looks really fun to drive
Используйте листовую медь для прокладки головки блока цилиндров. Use sheet copper for the head gasket.
Make a custom head gasket for the engine
Make a inline 8
yes
In-line 7 :)
Lada com motor AP 1.6!!!!
That is the most badass Lada!
An Inline-8 varient of this with the crankshaft of the addidional cylinders a quarter rotation offset would make for a better firing and balance
Suggestion: make a electric-Lada using only startermotors attached to the gearbox!! Lots of them!
TESLADA
Yes they will overheat. And yes, a customized alternator would work better. And yes it will not have a lot of range.. heard it all before. But yet, it is MY suggestion!!
How many times we must see this comment? Aren't you tired?
I suggested the idea (as I also noticed that this one comes up quite often), and apparently some Russian channel has already done something similar, which makes it a less interesting prospect for Garage 54.
@@lassediscovers1813 Grow up man
@@lassediscovers1813 You must be 12
Please make a v8 using 2 lada engines, I’d die a happy man if i see you guys do that
a U8
Good job fellas!! You should make a engine Dynomonitor to measure your horsepower increase!!
Damn that's a nice fab job! Very cool!
the problem with running the spark plugs like that your only going to get spark out of 1 other the other..
yes point of less resistance
weld 3 Lada engines together to make an inline 12, and extend the front of a Lada to fit the engine.
they already did that
Yup. Been there, done that.
Awesome job! 💪 Please convert that Carbon to EFI. Put some aftermarket ECU there 😁 Cooling and sealing fix then go the dyno. That would awesome two 😁😁😁
Very very cool !!! Nice engine need nice chassis. In that snow it's hard to see if it's better or not than a stock 4 cylinder
Made this duel on fair temperature 🌡️
Cool engine u think ! 🇲🇫
I waited a long time for this video, expecting to see it in a regular lada to see if it actually makes more power... I feel scammed
Yeah hope you get all of your money back, man.
The suspension is out of this world :3
This is the REAL monster garage
Loving the build it then break it approach! Awesome Lada.
Perhaps time for a Wankel rotor supercharger in the future
7:20 Suzuki Cappucino 😍
I have been watching your videos for a long time now. I like how you guys built an in line 6 but for your next challenge should be an in line 8 with turbo. But I will make it as a two part video or more for us to enjoy it. Make it as perfect as you guys can as well as making the car look good with a proper tune up. Nothing too serious but good enough.
On the front of the lada you should extend it with carbon fiber hand built parts like the hood and the fenders to make the engine looks like it belongs to the car and not just thrown in it. I will call this the project Lada Extended Edition V8, short name (Lada Ee V8). I hope you guys take my opinion. It will be a great and fun project. 😎
👍keep up the great work . i think you should have done 3 carbs 1 carb for 2 cylinders. you guys do great work thnank you !!!
The piston firing order for that engine is nuts!
Great work
Are the 4th and 5th cylinders are not properly sequenced in between the power strokes of the 4 cylinder? That would require a change of valve timing on cylinder 6, to exchange the intake and exhaust cycles.
This is apparently the only odd-fire 4 stroke inline 6. You have 2 cylinders fire simultaneously, then 2 more, then the other 2 fire by themselves. It's built more like a 4 cylinder welded to a popping John Deere.
Inline 8 would be hella fun!
An inline 8 would be awesome to see!!
Love it!
This video was a Lada fun to watch.
Try cut at the cylinder 3 and another’s cylinder 2 so when merge should be a perfect 6 cylinders
Yesss I've been waiting on this one🔥🙌🙏❤
you need to take a front wheel drived lada and put another engine in the back, make a 2 engine lada with awd
how do they have the ignition setup? did they find a 6cy distributor that fit or?
been waiting on this!!!!
i really like to see you build a turbo on this car! i have a 4 cyl carb mercedes and i want to know more about turbo carburated engines.
i like your vids!!
5:04 This part felt like a discount version of Redline rebuild from Hagerty lol
The random non firing cylinders is the ignition system being piggy backed, when could have been solved by using a 6 cyl disturbutor. But sadly you didn't configure the stroke timing to achieve the potential you hoped for.
Still it's fun when you make some whacky device.
Solid!
Top KEK!
I think if it’s running hot, it has more to do with the fan setup and lack of nice shrouds. A bigger radiator will only benefit in hot weather and highway driving
how does the oiling system work for the back 2 cylinders?
You might want to try dual or larger exhaust, certainly can't hurt anything
Would love to see this thing boosted
That's awesome. I heard at one time you could take a v8 engine and use one side of it as a super charger I would like to see that happen. If possible thanks
What a cool land crab! 🦀
Build a apposed piston 4 cyl
.by basically bolting two blocks together with out heads so both pistons almost meet each other. And porting the intake and exhaust through the side of the cylinder so the pistons are the valves.. Pulling in air threw one set with reed valves and a desil type fuel njection... .. So you end up with a 4 cylinder 8 piston 2 stroke.. May require turbo or supercharger to make it run
Holy sheet, Suzuki Cappuccino in the house at @7:27!
You boys are very good at creating apocalyptic "Mad Max" cars! I could see Wez or Toady driving this 😆
time to turbo charge it?
you also need to make a b8 with lada motors by combining blocks
Im from Bali Indonesia, i like you job...
Mantap....
Another great 107% success👍👍
Yup put a V 12 in a Lada & watch it go for sure! 👍👍👍
How big is this engine in terms of displacement? What size engine was used as the base?
I call that one crazy👌😝👍success!
You guys are my heroes
Watching this it looks like the 4 wheels are pointing in 4 different directions.😊
What is the engine displacement now that it has 2 more cylinders/pistons?
I want to see more of that "Drift54" car around the 7:45 minute mark
Well funny episode but you need a proper inline 6 crank to get even firing intervals then you can use an inline 6 distributor too so the engine will run properly