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You know what's sad: Dipper and Mabel had no idea they had another grunkle, meaning Stanly was completely erased from their family history. As far as their parents knew, they were sending their kids to Stanford.
Stanley faked his death via car crash remember. There was a newspaper article about it. As far as Shermie and the the rest of the family knew Stanley died a screw up and Stanford was the only Stan left
One of my favorite little details in this episode is that you can see a growing pile of Physics and Chemistry books next to Stan during the montage of him standing in front of the mirror over the years after taking over the Mystery Shack. Despite his whole family lambasting him as good-for-nothing, and despite it taking him 30 years, he put in the time and effort to actually learn enough scientific knowledge to figure out Ford's portal and get it working again. He may not have as much natural talent/intellect as Ford, but damn if his determination isn't amazing.
I feel so genuinely bad for Stan because his entire life has been defined by two mistakes. How much blame he holds in both of these situations is debatable, but he got kicked out of his home for the first one, and spent thirty years of his life fixing the next one. All of the books we see in the flashback show just how hard he studied despite not being great at any of the stuff he needed for fixing the portal. Learning that someone who we could describe as selfish at the start of the show was actually doing all of this for his brother the entire time put so much in perspective.
Stans obsession with money, and his hesitance to spend it is so often played for laughs, but becomes pretty sad after realizing it’s because he was told not to come home until he made millions.
The amount of foreshadowing of Ford is insane like really. There's a lot, and is so good: 1x2: Stan's boat is called the "Stan of War" 1x3: Stan acting scared of wax Stan the first time he sees it (because it was someone that looked exactly like him out of nowhere). And how he grives it. As a person. 1x4: Stan knowing Gideon is fake because (first he is not dumb and) Gideon calls him Stanford. 1x9:We actually see Fordwhen Dipper and Mabel visit the past and we saw a young Stanford. 1x14: With the teeths of truth Stan says he commits tax fraud regularly. That's because he does his taxes (or when he does them) under his brother's name 1x16: Stan picking up Ford glasses. 1x19: We actually have two here. The brooken swing in Stan's memory. And in the boxing memory we actually see Ford reading in the back 2x11: We have two, Stan saying "Can it Pointdexter" (how he calls Ford) and during the interrogation we see a report card when we have all A+, except for gym class (D-) I think we can call this Fordshadowing.
@@gregovaromoreno6318 Yeah I remember the license plate was a huge one when all the theories were going around about whether or not Stan had a secret twin brother
There was also foot-bot (I think his name was) that soccer robot from Stan’s fantasy in the bottomless pit episode, during the science fair Stan’s project was the same robot, seen next to his brother’s perpetual motion machine
1x16 there is also a rainbow in that room which was meant to reference a refraction through an inch well when showing the journal being written… I would be surprised if anyone actually got that but Alex Hirsh meant it to be the case
Hearing J.K. Simmons voice Ford was such a shock to my system but also a great decision casting wise. He has a great voice that sounds 'responsible' for lack of a better word and quite serious, which is exactly what Ford projects, but he also has a great range that he flexes in emotional moments. His work as Tenzin was the first time I really heard him in animation and I've loved his voice acting since.
Fun fact about this episode. When it first aired, there were no commercial breaks during it's run. The episode was too important to the overall story to interrupt it with commercial breaks.
About the brothers disliking each other over what happened - don't forget a massive part of Stan saving Ford - although he may have been the cause, he spent half a lifetime fixing and turning on a machine that his own abnormally genius brother needed help and years to make. And he did it alone, as an average-Joe. And that, coming from a guy who spent that life scamming people without a second thought, showed he truly cared for his brother. Because it's the only person he ever really sacrificed his own time and money for. (Except maybe the kids later on)
Stan's bond with the kids is so much more clear now. He sees a lot of himself in Mabel and they have a lot in common, which is why he likes hanging out with her more. Dipper is the brother that makes him so upset but also breaks his heart. Stan is reminded of everything bad he has ever one when he looks at Dipper, but he also gets a second chance to protect Ford through Dipper as well. Dipper and Mabel are what Stan wishes he had with his twin, with his life. And on top of all of the parallels with him and Ford, Stan doesn't really have family. His whole famiky blames him, probably even his younger brother to an extent, for their misfortune. He never had contact with ANY of his relatives until Dipper and Mabel's paents sent them there for the summer. In the episode where they lost the Shack to Gideon, there is now so much more PAIN knowing what we do now. He lost the Shack, his home and job, but he also lost the machine underneah it and the chance to get Ford back. And it gets WORSE because he was going to have to send the twins BACK HOME! Stan was going to be truly alone again with no hope, but he was ok with that if it meant the twins were safe and cared for. Stan has truly been put through the gauntlet in life, but he remains a caring and determined person. It's no wonder why he's Soos' role model. I think you'll like Ford, and there is depth to him, but Stan is truly special and I'm excited for you to see more of why that is.
I love how the different spectators to the reunion of the two Stans had different reactions. Dipper is hanging on to every word as he finally gets to learn more about the Author he's spent roughly two months looking for. Soos is enamored as he learns more about his father figure. But Mabel sees the similarities between the Stans and herself & Dipper and worries that history will repeat itself. Not What He Seems & A Tale of Two Stans are the Gravity Falls equivalents to the Day of Black Sun. The status quo has been shattered, and new character dynamics are inevitable. The Endgame is approaching, whether we're ready for it or not.
I can understand why Ford would be upset about the house change and the coping of his identity, in the sense that he took all of that very seriously and it feels like Stan turned it into a joke. But Stan explains why, he had to earn money somehow and he didn't see any other option. He was desperate and starving. And Ford's anger towards him for saving him is really aggravating considering he literally yelled "Stanley, Stanley, Help Me! Do something!" as he was going into the portal. Stan did what his brother was begging of him before disappearing into the portal and then Ford has the audacity to be angry with him and punch him in the face. He has no reason to think that Stan would have realized there's invisible ink throughout the pages, and the warnings are written with that ink.
I think from an outside perspective Ford seems like the asshole, but if you genuinely think about it realistically you can understand his anger. You can’t really blame Stan for him ending up in the portal. Because it was an accident. He didn’t even know what the portal was nor what would happen after pushing him. However, despite how intelligent Ford is he’s still human and humans don’t always think rationally. From our perspective we can view the situation differently and more rationally. Ford was trapped in the portal for 30 years and you have to take that into account. It’s not like it was all fun and games over there. Sure some dimensions weren’t so bad, but then you had plenty that were awful. It’s been a while since I read the journal so I can’t actually recall Fords entries regarding his time in the portal. But my only point is that it was probably traumatic to some extent. And while he’s in the portal wishing he could go back, all he can think about is how Stan is the reason he’s there. It doesn’t matter if it’s an accident or if rationally he shouldn’t be blamed. Because at the end of the day his only thought is “If Stanley hadn’t been there then this wouldn’t have happened”. In some ways this fits Fords character. He’s the intelligent one, but consequently has a harder time when it comes to feelings and understanding them. Just like how Stanley is the other way around. People who are more emotional and better at understanding others feelings would look at the situation and realize it was an accident and Stanley shouldn’t be blamed especially after going through the effort to save him. People who are more of the academic type when put into such a situation are more prone to ignoring such things and only focused on the fact that Stanley is the direct cause of what happened. Sorry I know that was a long rant. I just thought I’d defend Ford a bit. I originally thought the same as you but now I’m starting to understand his perspective more. It probably also doesn’t help that he ruined his chances of getting into a good college the last time they saw each other and to Ford that seemed to be on purpose. Stan’s definitely at fault for that. It was an accident but then Instead of telling Ford immediately he deliberately tried to hide his mistake. So naturally Ford wouldn’t think it was an accident. The bitterness from that whole situation probably also impacted how he looked at the portal situation if that even makes any sense.
@@Mae11473 Honestly, if anyone's to blame, it's not Stan or Ford, but their father, Filbrick. He obviously favored one over the other, completely side-lining Stan and using Ford as his ticket up. He definitely drove a wedge between the brothers as they grew up, eventually severing ties with Stan, and it's implied he did the same with Ford later on, probably after learning they wouldn't be getting any of his grant money. Essentially, they were victims of child abuse, and it nearly destroyed their lives as kids and adults.
The Journal puts things into perspective a bit, and though it isn’t source material directly from the show the show does imply things. We can tell Stanford has aged meaning a great deal of time has passed, not to mention the risk to the universe that opening that portal creates. In the Journal, Stan describes his journeys through the other dimensions and reveals that he was getting close to potentially defeating Bill Cypher when the portal re-opened. You’re right about him seeming to resent Stanley though, I feel like Stanley’s more abrasive personality makes it harder for Stanford to understand how long and how hard Stanley has fought to bring him back and fix his mistakes.
There used to be tv shorts featuring varied Gravity Falls characters. One of them was dipper solving mysteries and one short had him trying to find out what Stans tattoo meant. Stan denied he had a tattoo and was rather grumpy about it. Well now we know why
Real talk, I do think Ford is absolutely justified in at very least asking for his house and his identity back. And while wanting the Mystery Shack thing to be over for good is very alienating a statement for Stan, it's also... like... a very understandable situation for Ford, who likely feels like Stan is making FUN of the weird and abnormal, which Ford takes very, very personally. Like, both are being crust buckets about their own personal stances but they ARE made very understandable. I like how complex this situation is.
The other interesting little bit of nuance to this discussion is that Ford never once says overtly "You have to LEAVE this house I am kicking you out," he just says that Stan can continue to take care of the kids until the end of summer and then he wants ownership of his house back and the Mystery Shack over. (I mean... he might INTERNALLY want Stan to leave him alone, but he does not actually bluntly state this if he DOES feel this way.) Then Stan, who has a lot of deep rooted abandonment trauma, hears what he says and translates it in his mind to another disowning. So what does he do about this? He disowns Ford first, so he can have the last word and hurt him back. Ooooughhh I love these brothers they're such dumbasses and so juicy
@@chromaticdreams618 I remember really hating Ford after that scene cause he didn't seem to care about the fact that Stan spent 30 years trying to bring him back when he could've so easily left him in the portal, considering how well Stan had been doing since his disappearance, and, given Ford's reclusive nature and their identical appearances, no one would think he went missing. While I still resent him for it, I do see a bit more where Ford was coming from. Stan did negatively affect his life more than once, from costing him his chance to go to a prestigious school, sending him into the portal, and then turning his home into a tourist trap, even if those were purely unintentional, and Stan never really acknowledged it before. But a lot of Ford's problems are his own fault, and he unjustly takes it out on Stan.
Ford: "Stanley! Do something! Help me" Stan: *Spends 30 years trying to help his brother.* Ford: "What were you thinking, opening the portal?! Didn't you read my warnings?!" Warnings: *In invisible ink.*
21:59 Perspective. He didn't spend the last 30 years thinking about how his brother is working to save him. He spent it knowing his brother is the reason he was in there. And also the fact that he didn't want the portal opened again even if it was to save him.
I decided to keep the extras until after this episode for obvious reasons. There's a lot to cover. (don't worry, still spoiler free) 1. When Mcgucket fell into the portal, Alex Hirsch said he saw "the kids of places Bill Cipher likes to hang out." There's a hidden code in the journal that says he saw Bill "removing his exoskeleton in order to feed." Eugh. 2. people theorized Stan had a secret twin YEARS before he actually showed up. All because the licence plate on Stan's car said stnlymbl. 3. The boat in Legend of the gobblewonker has "Stan o' war" painted on the side of it. Just in case you needed some emotional damage. 4. This explains why Stan got so emotional over his wax figure's death. All the way back in the 3RD episode! 5. In the time-traveler's pig, when the twins are traveling through time we see the shack during wintertime, and supposedly Stan peeking out. That was technically Ford's first appearance. 6. In Carpet Diem, Stan is reminiscing over a pair of glasses that we now know to be Ford's. 7. in dreamscaperers, in Stan's boxing match memory, you can see Ford in the background reading a book. See ya soon!
@@mundoatena1674 stnlymbl. Short for Stanley mobile. But everyone calls Stan "Stanford" People theorized Stan's name was secretly Stanley and he had a secret twin who's name was Stanford. (or vice versa) so it was an early piece of evidence.
The baby held by Mrs. Pines in the flashback was a source of a LOT of debate. If that baby was Shermie, their age by the time/year this show is set would make them an EXTREMELY young grandparent to Dipper and Mabel. This is why it was theorized by some fans that the baby was Dipper and Mabel's dad, and Shermie could be Stan and Ford's older sibling (who was never shown in the flashbacks). I suspect we may have some answers in The Book of Bill (I hope). And in defense of the fanfic writers and fan artists of Gravity Falls, there are a lot of fantastic works that came out since Stanford was revealed. :)
This episode is awesome, it explains so much, and I love the way they led up to make it look like Stan was a villain when he wasn’t and it was a huge reveal in the end. The best part is the show is not even over yet.
This entire show has a running theme of pride being the main obstacle for the characters. And swallowing their pride is what gets them out of their messes. Stanley and Stanford BOTH have EXTREME levels of pride and I’d argue Ford has more. The guy got Stanley ostracized from his family by not giving up the pride in a machine that was unstable when Stanley himself wasn’t the type to be covert. So there wasn’t a reason to doubt he wanted to fix things. And the two are CLOSE. And Stanley has no real pride in accomplishing FIXING THE MACHINE, which means he’s almost as smart as his brother to decipher all the codes. He just didn’t read invisible ink and got DECKED for it. Ford might be a wee bit of a jerk and that’s compared to menace of society Stanley.
Yooo, I thought you only did My Hero Academia essays! I agree, BTW. I've never really liked Ford as a character that much, as he is kind of a know-it-all jerk. Even worse that he's like that to his own brother, considering all Stan did to bring him home. I don't care WHAT risks Ford believed weren't worth it; he should at least thank Stan.
If you think two Stans is an interesting parenting choice... my dad's entire family are Bills. William Gerard, Gerard William, Billie Jo, Bill Jr., and Bill the Third. And we're not even Southern! 😂 Some families are just not creative with their naming conventions 😂
That damn baby is an absolute mystery. Is he Shermie? Maybe but that would make him a VERY young grandparent. Is he Dipper and Mabel's father? A bit more likely but why is he just there? Oh well that's what Fanon is for.
I think at this point my personal hc is that it's Dipper and Mabel's dad, who his grandmother is taking care of for the night while parents (Shermie and unknown partner) are away doing something. But ahahah I know Alex and crew have said in interviews and commentary and such that they literally just didn't think about timeline stuff when putting this baby in, whoops
@@valentinkambushev4968 Lmaooo right? These shows really just need to hire ONE continuity consultant and all of these silly little skewed details would be fixed ahah
I’m sorry but I’m 100% on Stan’s side. He did not break the machine on purpose, he did not deserve to be disowned at 18, he did not “ruin fords life” ford was actually able to pursue his life’s passion after this, in fact if anyone ruined fords life it was ford himself. And the more we learn about ford the more my opinion is reenforced. The absolute least ford could’ve done is say thank you to Stan for saving him from his own dumb invention after the physical altercation he started that pushed him into it to begin with.
I love how you IMMEDIATELY picked up on J.K. Simmons' voice as Ford. 🤣 Edit: Wonder if they would've recognized it as easily if they hadn't seen him in Legend of Korra. 🤔
I loved that too! It was already cool that they recognized his voice (then again J.K. Simmons has a very distinct voice) but also that they mentioned Tenzin which brought me back to their Legend of Korra reactions which is how I originally found their channel!
While I can understand Ford being mad, I don't think it's fair to paint what Stanley did as opportunistic. It was on both of them that Ford ended up going through the portal, and Stan used the only skills he had to get by while he spent 30 years of his life trying to rescue his brother. He could open another tourist trap literally anywhere and get by. He was only in Gravity Falls for one reason.
"Until you make a fortune, you are not welcome in this house" I'm surprised you guys didn't realize that this was the reason why Stan is so greedy and obsessed with making easy money
at least they didn’t give birth to… freddy fazbear, because, if you give birth to, freddy fivebears, he comes out and he says “or, or, or or, or, or, or or, or or, and then he kills michael afton, or he tries to do it, along with his friends, bunny the bonnie, chica the kitchen, foxy the… fox pirate rawr, and yellow freddy, who’s yellow, and weird, and, but it’s not their fault! it’s all because william afton one day was like “hi i’m gonna murder people, ra!” so he murdered kids, but he was also a yellow bunny? and he was like “hi, i’m a yellow bunny, imma kill you” because he had a daughter? who had, like, remnant? gone from her? so he was like, “if i kill kids, i put them in the suits, so that it’s not, it’s not freddy fivebear fault, its actually purple guy fault” and that’s why you don’t give birth to him.
in case anybody wasn't aware, ford's extra finger is something that sometimes happens in real life! it's a condition called polydactyly, and last i checked nobody is really entirely sure what causes it, though it can sometimes be genetic, and can effect both hands and feet. it's actually reasonably common! :]
20:07 love seeing Kenny get excited about Ford's smarts, his character is such a delight it's so fun having him join the mix we've gotten so familiar with so far. He blends right in and adds a lot to it- conflict, interest, humor, drama, lore, just everything!
This is also why Grunkle Stan knew that Gideon was a fraud, He learned all the tricks from watching his mom amd two if Gideon could read minds hed know his name was Stanley not Stanford.
i mean technically ford dug his own grave creating the portal in the first place and hiding the instructions on how to use it, also kinda wild to ask your estranged twin to come see them and immediately ask him to leave forever who wouldn't be pissed?
What was the cipher at the end of this episode again? A STUBBORN TOUGH NEW JERSEY NATIVE FILBRICK WASN'T TOO CREATIVE HAVING TWINS WAS NOT HIS PLAN SO HE JUST SHRUGGED AND NAMED BOTH STAN
Trust. This show is all about trust. Why doesn't Stan tell Mabel and Dipper the full story? Lack of trust. Dipper and Mabel are like Stan and Ford, with one key difference: they trust each other.
Ford technically first appeared in "Time Traveler's Pig" when they passed the Mystery Shack during their time jumps. Ford has a cleft chin while Stan doesn't which is one way to tell them apart.
Now that you know, if you go back and watch the episode in Stan's head with his memories you can sometimes see Ford in the background! Fun little foreshadowing/tease😊
i just love episodes that explain how the series's plot came to be in the very first place i love avatar wan's backstory i love this i love any time they reveal anything about the first user of ofa in mha i really wish belos would've gotten an episode for his own origin in toh it's ALWAYS so cool
You asked why Ford was so mad but he actually said "this was insainely risky restarting the portal didn't you read my warnings?". Ford is clearly refering to the warnings that making the device "fully" operatinal would put the whole world in danger! Many people are understandably quick to critisize Ford since last episode the biggest warning was in invisible ink. For a long time it didn't make sense to me why Ford was expecting Stanely to have seen that but recently I finally put it together! At the end of season 1 Stanely had all 3 of the "real" journals and at the begining of season 2 he was expecting to be ruinited with foward that day as evident by his line "this will be my greatest achievement probably should have worn pants" Stanely thought he should have worn pants because he thought the machine was already finished and was expecting to see his brother that day. HOWEVER, in the season 2 premire Stanley makes a copy of journal 3 and gives the REAL journal 3 back to Dipper; AFTER Stanely no longer has the real one then they all discover the invisible ink and Stanely was clearly supprised by that! Since Stanely still had the 1st two journals he would naturally check the invisible ink in them and that invisible ink in those 2 journals must have been what explained the final steps that Stan needed to get the portal working between the season 2 priemeir and now. So since Stanley had all the instructions to get the portal working Ford knew that he read the normal ink in all 3 journals AND he knew he read the invisible ink in the 1st two journals. But Dipper had the real journal 3 and Stanely only had some copies without the invisible ink so that was the only thing Stanely didn't read. Again last episode the invisible ink in journal 3 said "could tear our univierse apart, I was wrong the whole time, total global destruction!" and so on. Ford came to the conclusion that if Stanely read the invisible ink in the 1st journals he would have read it in the last one as well. To make matters worse when Ford asked "didn't you read my warnings" Stanely didn't say "what warnings" he said "warnings smarnings" which basicly confirmed to Ford that Stanely did read the warnings about the machine destroying the world but activated it anyway. Plus both brothers went through trama but we litterally have know idea what Ford went through all these years! "Do kids still say greetings and what is with the large hairless gofer?"
3:00 They weren't planning for Twins OK! (No really, that's the numerical code at the end of the episode "A STUBBORN TOUGH NEW JERSEY NATIVE / FILBRICK WASN’T TOO CREATIVE / HAVING TWINS WAS NOT HIS PLAN / SO HE JUST SHRUGGED AND NAMED BOTH STAN")
I felt sorry for Stanley, living in the shadow of his brainiac twin brother but worst of all his dad kicked him to the curb after accidently sadotaging Ford's invention. plus seeing Stan being supportive of Ford because he had 6 fingers on both hands and being the nerd of the family
Regarding Ford's anger. It was 30 years ago when he was launched into unknown dimension, and as we can see he was doing fine out there wherever he is. I get the desire to save his brother and I would have done the same in a heartbeat if I was Stanley, yet from Ford's perspective it's already been 30 years and he probably thought it would be better if the machine was never launched again.
Something that just clicked while watching the reaction... that's probably the first time Ford's heard how his science project was destroyed. Before he got sent in the portal his retort to Stanley calling him selfish was bringing up what happened.
16:40 According to the real life Journal 3 Ford mentions that the journals are way to valuable to destroy but to dangerous for 1 man to have. I mean think about it he spent over half a decade doing research it kinda makes sense on why destroying these journals is a no.
It's super twisted that both Stans were called into the office that day. As far as we know, Stanly had no reason to be sitting in that waiting room in earshot of their conversation. It doesn't make sense. Unless, well....all the adults in this backstory act like complete jerks. Did they really have him sit there just to pound it into him that he was lesser? Like some sort of ultra-fucked up version of his tough love for Dipper in the season 1 finale?
Stanley has a problem saying "please" and Stanford has a problem saying "thank you"! that's a really good detail!!(srry if theres something wrong, english is not my first language)
The fact that Montana was confused when he said ninja turtles is baffling 😂 i understand not everyone will have seen every popular franchise but they're so well know and popular that i was like huh?! Haha
The point id argue about Stanford being mean was unnecessary and has a part to play in the whole situation. Ford literally called him and told him to fix his mistake, and instead of explaining why he can’t destroy it, he pushed him. He also burned him on accident which shouldn’t be glossed over. Stanley never meant to push him in and he worked constantly to rectify that mistake while also making sure his things weren’t seized and his life wasn’t something he ruined. If Ford didn’t want him involved, he shouldn’t have called his brother
Another fun little Easter egg, Stan's science project (seen sitting next to Ford's Perpetual Motion Machine science project) was FootBot, from the Bottomless Pit episode!
For Stan the obsession with money isn't just about making enough money to stay afloat, it's because his Dad said that he's not welcome back in the family until he makes up for the potential millions that Ford was supposedly going to make for the family. Stan is literally trying to buy his family's love back.
10:08 That baby being Shermie (Dipper and Mabel's grandpa) is something the fans pointed out didn't add up as that scene takes place in 1969 (give or take) and that baby shouldn't be old enough in the present of 2012 (~43 years old) to be a grandparent. Thus it's a popular fan theory that Shermie is actually the Stans' older sibling, and the baby is actually Dipper and Mabel's father who was being babysat by his grandparents while Shermie was away for some reason (given the time period, a lot of people figured Shermie was drafted to serve in Vietnam).
I heard a theory that it wasn't Stan who destroyed Ford's machine, but rather Blendin. When you really think about it, Stan didn't even touch the machine, he just pounded on the table, and the grate fell out (which if that's all it took, then it wasn't well screwed on there), and the machine was still going when he left it. When Ford showed it, it looked entirely different, meaning something else happened in between. Why Blendin? Not only is he a time traveler, but there's a subtle "Blendin was here" message in the fort Stan and Ford play in at the beginning. Why do it? Probably to bring Ford to Gravity Falls, knowing how integral he'll eventually be to the town.
Third day since i found your channel and i already caught up with gravity falls. I have to say that i'm loving your theories and reactions for the mysteries and now that i'm two episodes into my hero academia, it's awesome to see someone that knows the story guiding another with the little details or missed important moments 😊
To understand Stanford Adventures in the other dimensions, check out the real-life Journal 3 that's in stores now. I know u guys have finished the show so its safe to view it now.
You might not see this since the comment is quite late from the time you posted the video, but I just wanted to add in a fun fact: When he said "It must be a dimension of weirdness leaking into ours," in other words, it's the Boiling Isles. The Owl House makes constant quips that the Boiling Isles is quite 'weird', to that exact word. Aside from that, if you have time, I recommend listening to the extra commentary from the GF DVD box set (you can also find it online)- trust me: It'll blow your minds! Afterward, go back to 'Yesterday's Lie' from TOH, & listen closely to one of Five's conversations. And if you haven't watched Amphibia yet- Oh boy! (No spoilers!) Amphibia, Gravity Falls, & The Owl House are all HEAVILY implied to be interconnected (there's also little, VERY quickly, passing moments in each show that are extremely hard to spot which has references to each other. Again, no spoilers. But if you do eventually plan to watch Amphibia, there's clips that someone made which reveals those little pieces of evidence.)
22:53 I mean it wasn't exactly Stan's fault ? At least not entirely, it was an accident , and when you think about it , Ford was the one who threw the first punch that led to him beeing pushed into the portal
"A Tale of Two Stans": The original Mystery Twins of Glass Shard Beach, NJ, not too far from Seymour's Bay, where Bob's Burgers features the iconic Burger of the Day. 13:58 Look up Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center, where "the two Steves" got a look at the future.
Be real honest everyone watching at the start tried to remember that they were being searched for by the government then were spellbound by the backstory
Stanley wanted to show he had a fortune to his parents to win their approval/forgiveness. Even after they died, he kept obsessively trying to make a fortune.
I’ve been waiting so long to see y’all’s reaction to this episode so this was a very fun video to watch! I’m also very excited for next week, it is also one of my favorites ✨ I’m surprised no one asked what your initial thoughts about Ford are, and what y’all think his presence might do to the dynamic of the show! And yes, I love Ford as a character so I always love seeing what people think of him (and also loved how Montana understood his reaction at the end 👏)
But also.. Ford knew about the machine portal stuff and still kept fighting with his brother? Stan didn't know how anything worked. Why couldn't he stand down instead? He used stan to be some kind of person to do his bidding and sail away? With no regards that he messed up creating that portal in the first place.
Ok, you guys may be too young to know this, but as people age they usually start needing glasses even if they had good vision as kids. Just educating here 🤪😜
It's really not that complicated, lol. I grew up with my great aunt, she's my grandmother's sister. So grunkle, a combo of great and uncle, means they're the twins's grandmother's/ Grandfather's siblings.
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The Turtles mention was hilarious and you guys should absolutely consider watching TMNT: Mutant Mayhem as a movie reaction if you haven't already lol
You know what's sad: Dipper and Mabel had no idea they had another grunkle, meaning Stanly was completely erased from their family history. As far as their parents knew, they were sending their kids to Stanford.
OH STOP IM GONNA CRY
That's rough, buddy
Makes me wonder if their younger brother Shermie was aware that one of his older brothers went missing
Stanley faked his death via car crash remember. There was a newspaper article about it. As far as Shermie and the the rest of the family knew Stanley died a screw up and Stanford was the only Stan left
@@Oiyuki That's true, although it makes me wonder if that was on the news throughout the entire country
One of my favorite little details in this episode is that you can see a growing pile of Physics and Chemistry books next to Stan during the montage of him standing in front of the mirror over the years after taking over the Mystery Shack. Despite his whole family lambasting him as good-for-nothing, and despite it taking him 30 years, he put in the time and effort to actually learn enough scientific knowledge to figure out Ford's portal and get it working again. He may not have as much natural talent/intellect as Ford, but damn if his determination isn't amazing.
And what he lacks in Book smarts, he makes up for it in Street Smarts.
@@thegreendragon5390he was streets a head
@@gregovaromoreno6318Streets ahead isn't going to become a thing, Pierce
@@somanygoodfandoms you are talking about it. So it's already a thing
@@gregovaromoreno6318 thank you for this u made my day
stan can't say please and ford can't say thank you. they really are brothers.
Kenny and Montana: "I wonder if that's why he's wearing glasses now!"
Me:
right??
That drove me insane lol
I was laughing about that 😭😭
They are probably too young to think of that 😂😂😂
there is literally an episode where stan says his eyesight is bad lmao
I feel so genuinely bad for Stan because his entire life has been defined by two mistakes. How much blame he holds in both of these situations is debatable, but he got kicked out of his home for the first one, and spent thirty years of his life fixing the next one. All of the books we see in the flashback show just how hard he studied despite not being great at any of the stuff he needed for fixing the portal. Learning that someone who we could describe as selfish at the start of the show was actually doing all of this for his brother the entire time put so much in perspective.
Stans obsession with money, and his hesitance to spend it is so often played for laughs, but becomes pretty sad after realizing it’s because he was told not to come home until he made millions.
What's sadder is that his father probably died years ago, yet Stan is still clinking to (probably) the last words he heard from his dad.
Not just that, but he's clearly spent a lot of time being poorer than dirt so he's hoarding money just in case.
The amount of foreshadowing of Ford is insane like really. There's a lot, and is so good:
1x2: Stan's boat is called the "Stan of War"
1x3: Stan acting scared of wax Stan the first time he sees it (because it was someone that looked exactly like him out of nowhere). And how he grives it. As a person.
1x4: Stan knowing Gideon is fake because (first he is not dumb and) Gideon calls him Stanford.
1x9:We actually see Fordwhen Dipper and Mabel visit the past and we saw a young Stanford.
1x14: With the teeths of truth Stan says he commits tax fraud regularly. That's because he does his taxes (or when he does them) under his brother's name
1x16: Stan picking up Ford glasses.
1x19: We actually have two here. The brooken swing in Stan's memory. And in the boxing memory we actually see Ford reading in the back
2x11: We have two, Stan saying "Can it Pointdexter" (how he calls Ford) and during the interrogation we see a report card when we have all A+, except for gym class (D-)
I think we can call this Fordshadowing.
Don't forget the Stanlymobeal
@@thegreendragon5390 ohh, never noticed that one
@@gregovaromoreno6318 Yeah I remember the license plate was a huge one when all the theories were going around about whether or not Stan had a secret twin brother
There was also foot-bot (I think his name was) that soccer robot from Stan’s fantasy in the bottomless pit episode, during the science fair Stan’s project was the same robot, seen next to his brother’s perpetual motion machine
1x16 there is also a rainbow in that room which was meant to reference a refraction through an inch well when showing the journal being written… I would be surprised if anyone actually got that but Alex Hirsh meant it to be the case
The "I didn't mean it" after Stanford was sucked into the portal makes me tear up every time.
Knowing Wendy, the fact she was still listening to Soos until 3 into the night is very impressive, very good friends
"A stubborn tough New Jersey native,
Filbrick wasn't too creative
Having twins was not his plan,
So he just shrugged and named both Stan"
My fave end code of the series, I think 😂
"But Stan wears glasses now!" Dude, there's this little thing called "getting old." You might've heard of it. XD
Alex said Stan always needed glasses (as proven by the flashbacks in Dreamscaperers) but stopped wearing them at certain points of his life.
Plus the "So he did do it! Why is he saying he's innocent?" last episode 😭
Hearing J.K. Simmons voice Ford was such a shock to my system but also a great decision casting wise. He has a great voice that sounds 'responsible' for lack of a better word and quite serious, which is exactly what Ford projects, but he also has a great range that he flexes in emotional moments. His work as Tenzin was the first time I really heard him in animation and I've loved his voice acting since.
One of the few characters he voices/plays, who doesn't have mustaches or beard.
Fun fact about this episode.
When it first aired, there were no commercial breaks during it's run. The episode was too important to the overall story to interrupt it with commercial breaks.
About the brothers disliking each other over what happened - don't forget a massive part of Stan saving Ford - although he may have been the cause, he spent half a lifetime fixing and turning on a machine that his own abnormally genius brother needed help and years to make. And he did it alone, as an average-Joe. And that, coming from a guy who spent that life scamming people without a second thought, showed he truly cared for his brother. Because it's the only person he ever really sacrificed his own time and money for. (Except maybe the kids later on)
"It's a total sham"
"What you need is the rip off"
The writers must have been in stitches when they were writing those lmao
Stan's bond with the kids is so much more clear now. He sees a lot of himself in Mabel and they have a lot in common, which is why he likes hanging out with her more. Dipper is the brother that makes him so upset but also breaks his heart. Stan is reminded of everything bad he has ever one when he looks at Dipper, but he also gets a second chance to protect Ford through Dipper as well. Dipper and Mabel are what Stan wishes he had with his twin, with his life. And on top of all of the parallels with him and Ford, Stan doesn't really have family. His whole famiky blames him, probably even his younger brother to an extent, for their misfortune. He never had contact with ANY of his relatives until Dipper and Mabel's paents sent them there for the summer. In the episode where they lost the Shack to Gideon, there is now so much more PAIN knowing what we do now. He lost the Shack, his home and job, but he also lost the machine underneah it and the chance to get Ford back. And it gets WORSE because he was going to have to send the twins BACK HOME! Stan was going to be truly alone again with no hope, but he was ok with that if it meant the twins were safe and cared for. Stan has truly been put through the gauntlet in life, but he remains a caring and determined person. It's no wonder why he's Soos' role model.
I think you'll like Ford, and there is depth to him, but Stan is truly special and I'm excited for you to see more of why that is.
Stan has problems saying "Please".
Ford has problems saying "Thank You".
I love how the different spectators to the reunion of the two Stans had different reactions.
Dipper is hanging on to every word as he finally gets to learn more about the Author he's spent roughly two months looking for.
Soos is enamored as he learns more about his father figure.
But Mabel sees the similarities between the Stans and herself & Dipper and worries that history will repeat itself.
Not What He Seems & A Tale of Two Stans are the Gravity Falls equivalents to the Day of Black Sun.
The status quo has been shattered, and new character dynamics are inevitable.
The Endgame is approaching, whether we're ready for it or not.
I can understand why Ford would be upset about the house change and the coping of his identity, in the sense that he took all of that very seriously and it feels like Stan turned it into a joke. But Stan explains why, he had to earn money somehow and he didn't see any other option. He was desperate and starving. And Ford's anger towards him for saving him is really aggravating considering he literally yelled "Stanley, Stanley, Help Me! Do something!" as he was going into the portal. Stan did what his brother was begging of him before disappearing into the portal and then Ford has the audacity to be angry with him and punch him in the face. He has no reason to think that Stan would have realized there's invisible ink throughout the pages, and the warnings are written with that ink.
I think from an outside perspective Ford seems like the asshole, but if you genuinely think about it realistically you can understand his anger. You can’t really blame Stan for him ending up in the portal. Because it was an accident. He didn’t even know what the portal was nor what would happen after pushing him. However, despite how intelligent Ford is he’s still human and humans don’t always think rationally. From our perspective we can view the situation differently and more rationally. Ford was trapped in the portal for 30 years and you have to take that into account. It’s not like it was all fun and games over there. Sure some dimensions weren’t so bad, but then you had plenty that were awful. It’s been a while since I read the journal so I can’t actually recall Fords entries regarding his time in the portal. But my only point is that it was probably traumatic to some extent. And while he’s in the portal wishing he could go back, all he can think about is how Stan is the reason he’s there. It doesn’t matter if it’s an accident or if rationally he shouldn’t be blamed. Because at the end of the day his only thought is “If Stanley hadn’t been there then this wouldn’t have happened”. In some ways this fits Fords character. He’s the intelligent one, but consequently has a harder time when it comes to feelings and understanding them. Just like how Stanley is the other way around. People who are more emotional and better at understanding others feelings would look at the situation and realize it was an accident and Stanley shouldn’t be blamed especially after going through the effort to save him. People who are more of the academic type when put into such a situation are more prone to ignoring such things and only focused on the fact that Stanley is the direct cause of what happened. Sorry I know that was a long rant. I just thought I’d defend Ford a bit. I originally thought the same as you but now I’m starting to understand his perspective more. It probably also doesn’t help that he ruined his chances of getting into a good college the last time they saw each other and to Ford that seemed to be on purpose. Stan’s definitely at fault for that. It was an accident but then Instead of telling Ford immediately he deliberately tried to hide his mistake. So naturally Ford wouldn’t think it was an accident. The bitterness from that whole situation probably also impacted how he looked at the portal situation if that even makes any sense.
@@Mae11473 Honestly, if anyone's to blame, it's not Stan or Ford, but their father, Filbrick. He obviously favored one over the other, completely side-lining Stan and using Ford as his ticket up. He definitely drove a wedge between the brothers as they grew up, eventually severing ties with Stan, and it's implied he did the same with Ford later on, probably after learning they wouldn't be getting any of his grant money. Essentially, they were victims of child abuse, and it nearly destroyed their lives as kids and adults.
The Journal puts things into perspective a bit, and though it isn’t source material directly from the show the show does imply things. We can tell Stanford has aged meaning a great deal of time has passed, not to mention the risk to the universe that opening that portal creates. In the Journal, Stan describes his journeys through the other dimensions and reveals that he was getting close to potentially defeating Bill Cypher when the portal re-opened. You’re right about him seeming to resent Stanley though, I feel like Stanley’s more abrasive personality makes it harder for Stanford to understand how long and how hard Stanley has fought to bring him back and fix his mistakes.
There used to be tv shorts featuring varied Gravity Falls characters. One of them was dipper solving mysteries and one short had him trying to find out what Stans tattoo meant. Stan denied he had a tattoo and was rather grumpy about it. Well now we know why
Real talk, I do think Ford is absolutely justified in at very least asking for his house and his identity back. And while wanting the Mystery Shack thing to be over for good is very alienating a statement for Stan, it's also... like... a very understandable situation for Ford, who likely feels like Stan is making FUN of the weird and abnormal, which Ford takes very, very personally. Like, both are being crust buckets about their own personal stances but they ARE made very understandable. I like how complex this situation is.
The other interesting little bit of nuance to this discussion is that Ford never once says overtly "You have to LEAVE this house I am kicking you out," he just says that Stan can continue to take care of the kids until the end of summer and then he wants ownership of his house back and the Mystery Shack over. (I mean... he might INTERNALLY want Stan to leave him alone, but he does not actually bluntly state this if he DOES feel this way.) Then Stan, who has a lot of deep rooted abandonment trauma, hears what he says and translates it in his mind to another disowning. So what does he do about this? He disowns Ford first, so he can have the last word and hurt him back. Ooooughhh I love these brothers they're such dumbasses and so juicy
@@chromaticdreams618 I remember really hating Ford after that scene cause he didn't seem to care about the fact that Stan spent 30 years trying to bring him back when he could've so easily left him in the portal, considering how well Stan had been doing since his disappearance, and, given Ford's reclusive nature and their identical appearances, no one would think he went missing. While I still resent him for it, I do see a bit more where Ford was coming from. Stan did negatively affect his life more than once, from costing him his chance to go to a prestigious school, sending him into the portal, and then turning his home into a tourist trap, even if those were purely unintentional, and Stan never really acknowledged it before. But a lot of Ford's problems are his own fault, and he unjustly takes it out on Stan.
Ford: "Stanley! Do something! Help me"
Stan: *Spends 30 years trying to help his brother.*
Ford: "What were you thinking, opening the portal?! Didn't you read my warnings?!"
Warnings: *In invisible ink.*
21:59 Perspective. He didn't spend the last 30 years thinking about how his brother is working to save him. He spent it knowing his brother is the reason he was in there. And also the fact that he didn't want the portal opened again even if it was to save him.
I love how hung up they are with the glasses, not realizing that Stan's just old now 😂
I decided to keep the extras until after this episode for obvious reasons. There's a lot to cover. (don't worry, still spoiler free)
1. When Mcgucket fell into the portal, Alex Hirsch said he saw "the kids of places Bill Cipher likes to hang out." There's a hidden code in the journal that says he saw Bill "removing his exoskeleton in order to feed." Eugh.
2. people theorized Stan had a secret twin YEARS before he actually showed up. All because the licence plate on Stan's car said stnlymbl.
3. The boat in Legend of the gobblewonker has "Stan o' war" painted on the side of it. Just in case you needed some emotional damage.
4. This explains why Stan got so emotional over his wax figure's death. All the way back in the 3RD episode!
5. In the time-traveler's pig, when the twins are traveling through time we see the shack during wintertime, and supposedly Stan peeking out. That was technically Ford's first appearance.
6. In Carpet Diem, Stan is reminiscing over a pair of glasses that we now know to be Ford's.
7. in dreamscaperers, in Stan's boxing match memory, you can see Ford in the background reading a book.
See ya soon!
What is stnlymbl? I didn't follow the show back when it aired, so I'm confused about how this would lead to the twin theory
@@mundoatena1674it's short for "Stanley Mobile". It's on Stan's license plate
@@mundoatena1674 stnlymbl. Short for Stanley mobile. But everyone calls Stan "Stanford" People theorized Stan's name was secretly Stanley and he had a secret twin who's name was Stanford. (or vice versa) so it was an early piece of evidence.
The baby held by Mrs. Pines in the flashback was a source of a LOT of debate. If that baby was Shermie, their age by the time/year this show is set would make them an EXTREMELY young grandparent to Dipper and Mabel. This is why it was theorized by some fans that the baby was Dipper and Mabel's dad, and Shermie could be Stan and Ford's older sibling (who was never shown in the flashbacks). I suspect we may have some answers in The Book of Bill (I hope).
And in defense of the fanfic writers and fan artists of Gravity Falls, there are a lot of fantastic works that came out since Stanford was revealed. :)
This episode is awesome, it explains so much, and I love the way they led up to make it look like Stan was a villain when he wasn’t and it was a huge reveal in the end. The best part is the show is not even over yet.
This entire show has a running theme of pride being the main obstacle for the characters. And swallowing their pride is what gets them out of their messes. Stanley and Stanford BOTH have EXTREME levels of pride and I’d argue Ford has more. The guy got Stanley ostracized from his family by not giving up the pride in a machine that was unstable when Stanley himself wasn’t the type to be covert. So there wasn’t a reason to doubt he wanted to fix things. And the two are CLOSE. And Stanley has no real pride in accomplishing FIXING THE MACHINE, which means he’s almost as smart as his brother to decipher all the codes. He just didn’t read invisible ink and got DECKED for it. Ford might be a wee bit of a jerk and that’s compared to menace of society Stanley.
Yooo, I thought you only did My Hero Academia essays!
I agree, BTW. I've never really liked Ford as a character that much, as he is kind of a know-it-all jerk.
Even worse that he's like that to his own brother, considering all Stan did to bring him home. I don't care WHAT risks Ford believed weren't worth it; he should at least thank Stan.
@@HaydrogenBomb24 I do but that doesn’t mean I won’t chime in. Just not in depth as much.
If you think two Stans is an interesting parenting choice... my dad's entire family are Bills. William Gerard, Gerard William, Billie Jo, Bill Jr., and Bill the Third. And we're not even Southern! 😂 Some families are just not creative with their naming conventions 😂
That damn baby is an absolute mystery. Is he Shermie? Maybe but that would make him a VERY young grandparent. Is he Dipper and Mabel's father? A bit more likely but why is he just there? Oh well that's what Fanon is for.
I think at this point my personal hc is that it's Dipper and Mabel's dad, who his grandmother is taking care of for the night while parents (Shermie and unknown partner) are away doing something.
But ahahah I know Alex and crew have said in interviews and commentary and such that they literally just didn't think about timeline stuff when putting this baby in, whoops
@@chromaticdreams618 it's incredible how much attention to detail was put into this show, yet they didn't think of the timeline.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Lmaooo right? These shows really just need to hire ONE continuity consultant and all of these silly little skewed details would be fixed ahah
@@valentinkambushev4968As a hobbyist author, let me just say: look, timelines are *very hard* okay?! 😅
“Not all of us are legible.” I love it when Kenny says something wrong so confidently 😂
I’m sorry but I’m 100% on Stan’s side. He did not break the machine on purpose, he did not deserve to be disowned at 18, he did not “ruin fords life” ford was actually able to pursue his life’s passion after this, in fact if anyone ruined fords life it was ford himself. And the more we learn about ford the more my opinion is reenforced. The absolute least ford could’ve done is say thank you to Stan for saving him from his own dumb invention after the physical altercation he started that pushed him into it to begin with.
I love how you IMMEDIATELY picked up on J.K. Simmons' voice as Ford. 🤣
Edit: Wonder if they would've recognized it as easily if they hadn't seen him in Legend of Korra. 🤔
He’s easily recognizable
That's an unmistakable voice.
I loved that too! It was already cool that they recognized his voice (then again J.K. Simmons has a very distinct voice) but also that they mentioned Tenzin which brought me back to their Legend of Korra reactions which is how I originally found their channel!
@@abthedragon4921 Dude, same! It was during season three of Korra that I first discussed these guys, and I've been subscribed ever since. 😁
He's so commanding he didn't have to show the G-men his credentials. He just tells them to scram and they do.
Remember when Dipper and Mabel traveled back in Time?
The Person that opened the Door was Stanford, not Stanley 😅
4:27 He said "Shermie's grandkids."
While I can understand Ford being mad, I don't think it's fair to paint what Stanley did as opportunistic. It was on both of them that Ford ended up going through the portal, and Stan used the only skills he had to get by while he spent 30 years of his life trying to rescue his brother. He could open another tourist trap literally anywhere and get by. He was only in Gravity Falls for one reason.
"Until you make a fortune, you are not welcome in this house"
I'm surprised you guys didn't realize that this was the reason why Stan is so greedy and obsessed with making easy money
Remember the time when they found the old Room with the Extra Glasses? That was Stanford olds Room
13:05-13:15
Dipper's high-pitched screaming cracked me up so hard
😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣
"This is how I sound talking about fnaf lore" Same...Same.
at least they didn’t give birth to… freddy fazbear, because, if you give birth to, freddy fivebears, he comes out and he says “or, or, or or, or, or, or or, or or, and then he kills michael afton, or he tries to do it, along with his friends, bunny the bonnie, chica the kitchen, foxy the… fox pirate rawr, and yellow freddy, who’s yellow, and weird, and, but it’s not their fault! it’s all because william afton one day was like “hi i’m gonna murder people, ra!” so he murdered kids, but he was also a yellow bunny? and he was like “hi, i’m a yellow bunny, imma kill you” because he had a daughter? who had, like, remnant? gone from her? so he was like, “if i kill kids, i put them in the suits, so that it’s not, it’s not freddy fivebear fault, its actually purple guy fault” and that’s why you don’t give birth to him.
in case anybody wasn't aware, ford's extra finger is something that sometimes happens in real life! it's a condition called polydactyly, and last i checked nobody is really entirely sure what causes it, though it can sometimes be genetic, and can effect both hands and feet. it's actually reasonably common! :]
20:07 love seeing Kenny get excited about Ford's smarts, his character is such a delight it's so fun having him join the mix we've gotten so familiar with so far. He blends right in and adds a lot to it- conflict, interest, humor, drama, lore, just everything!
Man, Stanley and Stanford's personalities, dynamic, and falling out really reminds me of Eda and Lillith from The Owl House.
I am willing to bet money that Lillith arrested Ford at some point, probably while Stan and Eda were spreading chaos across Las Vegas.
Headcanon: Lilith arrested Ford at some point, and he met Eda in prison, and she asked him: "Hey, did you steal my ex-husband's face?"
This is also why Grunkle Stan knew that Gideon was a fraud, He learned all the tricks from watching his mom amd two if Gideon could read minds hed know his name was Stanley not Stanford.
With every video that passes, the day gets that much closer, as does he.
i mean technically ford dug his own grave creating the portal in the first place and hiding the instructions on how to use it, also kinda wild to ask your estranged twin to come see them and immediately ask him to leave forever who wouldn't be pissed?
Stan's dad was so lazy to name them that when the second son popped out he just named them both stan
He should've named one of them "Finger" *wink*
What was the cipher at the end of this episode again?
A STUBBORN TOUGH NEW JERSEY NATIVE
FILBRICK WASN'T TOO CREATIVE
HAVING TWINS WAS NOT HIS PLAN
SO HE JUST SHRUGGED AND NAMED BOTH STAN
Trust. This show is all about trust. Why doesn't Stan tell Mabel and Dipper the full story? Lack of trust. Dipper and Mabel are like Stan and Ford, with one key difference: they trust each other.
Ford technically first appeared in "Time Traveler's Pig" when they passed the Mystery Shack during their time jumps.
Ford has a cleft chin while Stan doesn't which is one way to tell them apart.
Oh, hello, Tenzin!
This ended the series long question "who is the author?" Now our new question, "What is Bill's plan and how will he pull it off?"
So glad this lined up with my lunch at school
Now that you know, if you go back and watch the episode in Stan's head with his memories you can sometimes see Ford in the background! Fun little foreshadowing/tease😊
i just love episodes that explain how the series's plot came to be in the very first place
i love avatar wan's backstory
i love this
i love any time they reveal anything about the first user of ofa in mha
i really wish belos would've gotten an episode for his own origin in toh
it's ALWAYS so cool
D
Ford is still angry over the college issue, he thinks Stanly sabotaged his chances on purpose
Mabel's "What hath science wrought?" drawing never fails to make me laugh.
You asked why Ford was so mad but he actually said "this was insainely risky restarting the portal didn't you read my warnings?". Ford is clearly refering to the warnings that making the device "fully" operatinal would put the whole world in danger! Many people are understandably quick to critisize Ford since last episode the biggest warning was in invisible ink. For a long time it didn't make sense to me why Ford was expecting Stanely to have seen that but recently I finally put it together!
At the end of season 1 Stanely had all 3 of the "real" journals and at the begining of season 2 he was expecting to be ruinited with foward that day as evident by his line "this will be my greatest achievement probably should have worn pants" Stanely thought he should have worn pants because he thought the machine was already finished and was expecting to see his brother that day. HOWEVER, in the season 2 premire Stanley makes a copy of journal 3 and gives the REAL journal 3 back to Dipper; AFTER Stanely no longer has the real one then they all discover the invisible ink and Stanely was clearly supprised by that! Since Stanely still had the 1st two journals he would naturally check the invisible ink in them and that invisible ink in those 2 journals must have been what explained the final steps that Stan needed to get the portal working between the season 2 priemeir and now. So since Stanley had all the instructions to get the portal working Ford knew that he read the normal ink in all 3 journals AND he knew he read the invisible ink in the 1st two journals. But Dipper had the real journal 3 and Stanely only had some copies without the invisible ink so that was the only thing Stanely didn't read. Again last episode the invisible ink in journal 3 said "could tear our univierse apart, I was wrong the whole time, total global destruction!" and so on. Ford came to the conclusion that if Stanely read the invisible ink in the 1st journals he would have read it in the last one as well. To make matters worse when Ford asked "didn't you read my warnings" Stanely didn't say "what warnings" he said "warnings smarnings" which basicly confirmed to Ford that Stanely did read the warnings about the machine destroying the world but activated it anyway. Plus both brothers went through trama but we litterally have know idea what Ford went through all these years! "Do kids still say greetings and what is with the large hairless gofer?"
3:00 They weren't planning for Twins OK!
(No really, that's the numerical code at the end of the episode "A STUBBORN TOUGH NEW JERSEY NATIVE / FILBRICK WASN’T TOO CREATIVE / HAVING TWINS WAS NOT HIS PLAN / SO HE JUST SHRUGGED AND NAMED BOTH STAN")
Omg, it totally scaped my mind that tomorrow is Tuesday? It's my birthday Xd, and I get to watch the reaction to this goated episode heck yes
The way that tourists fall more for the sham "mysteries" than Fords real science experiments...stan was perfect for the role after all
I felt sorry for Stanley, living in the shadow of his brainiac twin brother but worst of all his dad kicked him to the curb after accidently sadotaging Ford's invention. plus seeing Stan being supportive of Ford because he had 6 fingers on both hands and being the nerd of the family
Stanley has trouble saying please, Stanford has trouble saying thankyou
Regarding Ford's anger. It was 30 years ago when he was launched into unknown dimension, and as we can see he was doing fine out there wherever he is. I get the desire to save his brother and I would have done the same in a heartbeat if I was Stanley, yet from Ford's perspective it's already been 30 years and he probably thought it would be better if the machine was never launched again.
Something that just clicked while watching the reaction... that's probably the first time Ford's heard how his science project was destroyed. Before he got sent in the portal his retort to Stanley calling him selfish was bringing up what happened.
16:40
According to the real life Journal 3
Ford mentions that the journals are way to valuable to destroy but to dangerous for 1 man to have.
I mean think about it he spent over half a decade doing research it kinda makes sense on why destroying these journals is a no.
Pun intended at 10:24? ;) Also, Kenny trying to explain his TMNT ref at ~30:20 is basically Soos trying to explain this ep to Wendy :P
It's super twisted that both Stans were called into the office that day. As far as we know, Stanly had no reason to be sitting in that waiting room in earshot of their conversation. It doesn't make sense. Unless, well....all the adults in this backstory act like complete jerks. Did they really have him sit there just to pound it into him that he was lesser? Like some sort of ultra-fucked up version of his tough love for Dipper in the season 1 finale?
my soul is ready
Stanley has a problem saying "please" and Stanford has a problem saying "thank you"! that's a really good detail!!(srry if theres something wrong, english is not my first language)
The fact that Montana was confused when he said ninja turtles is baffling 😂 i understand not everyone will have seen every popular franchise but they're so well know and popular that i was like huh?! Haha
The point id argue about Stanford being mean was unnecessary and has a part to play in the whole situation. Ford literally called him and told him to fix his mistake, and instead of explaining why he can’t destroy it, he pushed him. He also burned him on accident which shouldn’t be glossed over. Stanley never meant to push him in and he worked constantly to rectify that mistake while also making sure his things weren’t seized and his life wasn’t something he ruined. If Ford didn’t want him involved, he shouldn’t have called his brother
Fun Fact!
If you pause the video when it shows the pawn shop and look to the left, the building's sign reads "Hot Belgian Waffles"
Another fun little Easter egg, Stan's science project (seen sitting next to Ford's Perpetual Motion Machine science project) was FootBot, from the Bottomless Pit episode!
For Stan the obsession with money isn't just about making enough money to stay afloat, it's because his Dad said that he's not welcome back in the family until he makes up for the potential millions that Ford was supposedly going to make for the family. Stan is literally trying to buy his family's love back.
10:08 That baby being Shermie (Dipper and Mabel's grandpa) is something the fans pointed out didn't add up as that scene takes place in 1969 (give or take) and that baby shouldn't be old enough in the present of 2012 (~43 years old) to be a grandparent.
Thus it's a popular fan theory that Shermie is actually the Stans' older sibling, and the baby is actually Dipper and Mabel's father who was being babysat by his grandparents while Shermie was away for some reason (given the time period, a lot of people figured Shermie was drafted to serve in Vietnam).
I heard a theory that it wasn't Stan who destroyed Ford's machine, but rather Blendin. When you really think about it, Stan didn't even touch the machine, he just pounded on the table, and the grate fell out (which if that's all it took, then it wasn't well screwed on there), and the machine was still going when he left it. When Ford showed it, it looked entirely different, meaning something else happened in between. Why Blendin? Not only is he a time traveler, but there's a subtle "Blendin was here" message in the fort Stan and Ford play in at the beginning. Why do it? Probably to bring Ford to Gravity Falls, knowing how integral he'll eventually be to the town.
Speaking of wax stan, when Stan first sees the him, he freaks out. Basically meaning that he thought it was ford
“But Stan wears glasses now” I swear sometimes I wonder how people’s brain work 💀
Third day since i found your channel and i already caught up with gravity falls. I have to say that i'm loving your theories and reactions for the mysteries and now that i'm two episodes into my hero academia, it's awesome to see someone that knows the story guiding another with the little details or missed important moments 😊
To understand Stanford Adventures in the other dimensions, check out the real-life Journal 3 that's in stores now. I know u guys have finished the show so its safe to view it now.
After this, you should see Amphibia
You might not see this since the comment is quite late from the time you posted the video, but I just wanted to add in a fun fact: When he said "It must be a dimension of weirdness leaking into ours," in other words, it's the Boiling Isles. The Owl House makes constant quips that the Boiling Isles is quite 'weird', to that exact word. Aside from that, if you have time, I recommend listening to the extra commentary from the GF DVD box set (you can also find it online)- trust me: It'll blow your minds! Afterward, go back to 'Yesterday's Lie' from TOH, & listen closely to one of Five's conversations.
And if you haven't watched Amphibia yet- Oh boy! (No spoilers!)
Amphibia, Gravity Falls, & The Owl House are all HEAVILY implied to be interconnected (there's also little, VERY quickly, passing moments in each show that are extremely hard to spot which has references to each other. Again, no spoilers. But if you do eventually plan to watch Amphibia, there's clips that someone made which reveals those little pieces of evidence.)
You two really should watch Amphibia after this. Same energy, and with a lot of the same creatives involved.
After gravity falls, you should watch How to Train Your Dragon, Race to the Edge!! It's my absolute favorite, and i think you'll love it.
I’ve been so waiting for this episode two come out. Can’t wait to see y’all’s reaction.
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I mean it wasn't exactly Stan's fault ? At least not entirely, it was an accident , and when you think about it , Ford was the one who threw the first punch that led to him beeing pushed into the portal
Wow, Kenny's JK Simmons J. Jonah Jameson impression is *scarily* good
"A Tale of Two Stans": The original Mystery Twins of Glass Shard Beach, NJ, not too far from Seymour's Bay, where Bob's Burgers features the iconic Burger of the Day. 13:58 Look up Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center, where "the two Steves" got a look at the future.
A bitter, tough New Jersey native, Filbrick wasn't too creative. Having twins was not his plan, so he just shrugged and named both Stan.
Be real honest everyone watching at the start tried to remember that they were being searched for by the government then were spellbound by the backstory
22:38 I was genuinely ready for you to drop the entire series lore in one sitting or something 😂 that caught me off guard
Stanley wanted to show he had a fortune to his parents to win their approval/forgiveness. Even after they died, he kept obsessively trying to make a fortune.
And so the truth is revealed.
And boy, does it cut the heartstrings with a knife!
I’ve been waiting so long to see y’all’s reaction to this episode so this was a very fun video to watch! I’m also very excited for next week, it is also one of my favorites ✨
I’m surprised no one asked what your initial thoughts about Ford are, and what y’all think his presence might do to the dynamic of the show!
And yes, I love Ford as a character so I always love seeing what people think of him (and also loved how Montana understood his reaction at the end 👏)
But also.. Ford knew about the machine portal stuff and still kept fighting with his brother? Stan didn't know how anything worked. Why couldn't he stand down instead? He used stan to be some kind of person to do his bidding and sail away? With no regards that he messed up creating that portal in the first place.
Fun fact lmao: Stan ALWAYS needed glasses. He just didn't want to look like a nerd.
Ok, you guys may be too young to know this, but as people age they usually start needing glasses even if they had good vision as kids. Just educating here 🤪😜
It's really not that complicated, lol. I grew up with my great aunt, she's my grandmother's sister. So grunkle, a combo of great and uncle, means they're the twins's grandmother's/ Grandfather's siblings.
The truth