People that girve the credit of newjeans success to MHJ alone are delulu cause lets face it yes she is creative but without hybes money resources and connections non of them would've had a chance to be noticed or showcase any of their talent so lets be realistic cause no matter how bad hybe might be they were the main reason why anyone have ever paid attention to newjeans
They rode BTS' coattails by calling themselves BTS' little sisters. Yes, they absolutely benefited under the HYBE umbrella and now they are trying to claim the spoils by stabbing BTS and HYBE, among others, in the back. Min Hee Jin and the members of New Jeans are truly despicable, unethical, immoral people.
Is sad to see how these girls turned out but their plan to leave hybe wasn’t over night. In their two years of the group they didn’t even complain once. As soon hybe did that audit everything shifted.
Yeah I wondered about that too. And I objectively listend to their complains and why they feel mistreated. If they truly are them I’m all for artists leaving a company. But the things they are listing isn’t enough reason for me at all. I work in a company too and I experience similar things. We have talks about that and try compromising. Work life isn’t always just perfect. We have to deal with it
And ya know what, even IF the audit was cuz hybe was covering up the plagiarism accusations that she said she brought up (i don’t believe that at all btw) - it still showed proof of her plans to take ador and newjeans, if anything destroy hybe, bang pd, and BTS. She’s NOT a good human being at all. Idc what newjeans say or why they still support her. It’s irrelevant. They wanna stick by someone like that, that’s their problem to deal with. Them blaming the new CEO (who had been at the job a week at the most) or putting the blame on her is ridiculous as hell too. They want MHJ or nothing. Fine, go with nothing. They can start over with MHJ and see how far they get when they aren’t Newjeans anymore - at all!
Seems that the bullying they complain off, was under her watch if it had been happening for years, so the truth is, if there was any bullying, it was done by 🧢 it just wasn’t to them, they were in the mean girl group who bullied everyone around them that they deemed weak or vulnerable, 👖 are the same as their mother. Horrible people.
What we do know is that the investment for their debut came from the hard work of my favorite group, their promotion was boosted thanks to my favorite group's fame, and I first discovered them through challenges with my favorite group. So, I'll be happy when this school parody finally comes to an end.
Fun fact: Min Heejin said in an interview in 2023 that she feels like she birthed NewJeans and NewJeans said back that she’s their second mom that should tell you how deep this really is they ain’t turning back
Yeah, I agree. Newjeans should just follow MHJ. BUT they are obligated to pay for the termination fee. Just pay it and they are free to go anywhere they want. It should be easy without MHJ's hocus pocus manipulations and media plays to attack Hybe and their artists.
ADOR will eventually let them go; but until then, they’re probably teaching the girls what it means to sign a contract and doing business. You just don’t wake up one morning and walk away.
NO, HYBE should NOT let NewJeans go!!! The way I see it, if NJ wants to leave, then NEED to pay up. And that will be a whole lot of money. So mommy and daddy will have to clean out their savings. And may have to get a big loan from the bank. These young ladies should not be given the free card. Who gives these young ladies the right to tell what they want or they want it. NOPE,NOPE.....NJ owes HYBE , for letting them have their chance to do KPOP, You can not get out of a contract of any kind. You have to pay your dues. There is more I could say, but.......
I'm fairly certain New Jeans has made Hybe huge profits and by far exceeded the investment money Hybe put into them. And it wouldn't surprise me if Hybe is very negative and toxic in it's behaviors just like MHJ.
@@brianlittrell797 A group must make their label earned money every single year of their contract, not just the first two. And could you adult men stop hanging out on our channels? Don't you have your channels where you can all meet up and talk about girls' asses and tits?
@@brianlittrell797 it doesn't matter when paying damages. They also have to pay what they would have been able to make in the remaining years of their contract
How can the 4 adult NJ members and their parents be that blind to their wrong ways. cannot believe thay all feel that way. I feel something is going to break soon.
She had years whle she isolated them from all information sources that were not hers and set at their parents table. Someone wanted to talk to someone in HYBE? Min pretends to send the message - in reality nothing - than says they refused to the one asking. It helps that the girls only "friends" are in SM not HYBE artists.
HYBE have no interest in releasing NJ from their contracts before they get expires years from now, and unless NJ have a fair amount of LOONA calibre ammunition to use against their company in a court of law they are fully depending on said company agreeing with their self declared »termination». It seems to me that HYBE dont have much interest to do anything with NJ either once their current contracted schedules comes to an end due to all the damage, distrust and bad blood their antics and this spectacle have caused, so….of too the dungeon they let them go? I keep wondering why the NJ girls are intentionally running their highly successful career into the ground for this woman. It’s a shady industry at best of times, and these companies only exist to make money, so I can see dozens worth of plausible reasons for a idol group to breach their contract, but this one just do not make sense to me. I want to side with the artist by default, but NJ has failed at making a convincing argument or even rational points or sound reasoning . Someone dismissed your concerns? An employee spoke negatively about you? Really? Their case against their company are going to have to get far more serious for me to think this isn’t just teenage girls temper tantrum gone horrible wrong
There is a misconception here Ador is their company not Hybe, M H J is the one who has the delusion that she will take over Hybe and leave BSH and BTS with nothing.
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult Like other idols under HYBE their are signed to a sub label, but its the top dog that is calling the shots. HYBE need to control all their sub-labels and manage their management teams of or look impotent and unreliable in the eyes of corporate investors. If the problematic chicks ends spending the next 5 years on hiatus under Ador, HYBE will be fulfilling Min Hee-jin's prophecy to leave Ador as an empty shell. In that case, with no business or revenue there, the payout on her 18% of Ador would become nothing.
@OleLeik Not quiet. HYBE is the business side of multiple labels but the labels are responsible for the choice of trainees, debuting artists/artists, music and promo themselves. ADOR still has the backing catalogue of NJ. They make money with that - you can listen/watch to HYBE's finance reports. They are also posting for auditions at the moment. (HYBE Boy does translations and speaks about stocks etc.; Asian Entertainment and Culture also spoke about numbers as they are public)
@@ruthfischer7615 Sub companies are largely operating independent, until they are not. HYBE is all abaut money and marketing. They dont care much abaut how their assorted sub companies are running their houses nor their internal affairs - as long as said house it following their lead, is profitable, and is in resonnable good order that is. Adors house for whatever reason become messy to say it at least, upsetting HYBE by causing money and marketing issues. It’s now in the process of being cleaned up. It’s uppity and ill behaving house manager was terminated, time will tell what fate her somewhat suicidal behaving idols will have, but if I was working as a staff there I would be well on my way looking for other employment exspecting the pulling of the plugg of the houses sole source of income
I think you know what tampering is. This is all just a story of tampering with the complicity of the girls. Their only goal was to pocket more than 20% of their earnings, as is currently the case in their contract (I read). My theory is that MHJ and NJ were deceived by a label (SM Ent.) who then left them on the street. NJ thought that by being bitches they would be released by Ador and sign a fabulous contract with another label. SM had no intention of signing them, it just made sure that they ruined their career, taking advantage of their monstrous greed. Now SM is about to debut their girl group and the NJ have disappeared from the scene.
NewJeans defending and supporting a shady woman is just not a good look. There were things said about MHJ that I can't really look at NewJeans the same anymore.
Hybe's money and resources really made tokkis delusional. Those girls are not as powerful and influential as y'all think😂😂😂 that's why mhj needed hybe in the first place to debut her group "take over the world" lmao ok
this is why people laugh at this fan base. The fact that y'all say these girls get mistreated but then say that Elon Musk of all people would do a better job is crazy to me knowing him he'll probably try to marry one of them
Look great people recognize other great people that's the case with Hitman Bang and MHJ. Chairman Bang knew MHJ was extremely talented but he misjudged her character and he is paying for it. There is no way in hell a court is going to let NewJeans get away with their actions without paying the fees. If a court rules in their favor K-POP will never be the same and the Industry will shrink. K-POP agencies rely on outside investors to operate and if Idols can simply walk away from an exclusive contract nobody is going to invest in that especially from the West.
We know rarely court of laws goes against the companies in such matters unless things are documented to be of really blatantly abusive and exploitative nature like the LOONAs case. Sadly, as a causal fan: I would say till this moment, with all things showed, even 5050, messy as they was, had a better case to try their case in the court and they lost big time - and this was against a company much much smaller and powerfull. I was hoping these girls would have real mistreatment or contract issues to show for and let a laywer do the legal talking. But, its appers that is next to nothing, if not nothing, court worthy at play here. And knowing MHJ side and how she uses and leaks everything for mediaplay, if they had it they would already posted it it in some way.
@OleLeik If the NJs had a valid reason to terminate the contract, they would have sued the label and won. If they did not sue, it is because they know they have nothing in hand. FiftyFifty lost the case in two months.
@@bqanto Their escape plan seems to be is to cause such a public uproar that Hybe decides to wash their hands clean. Essentially NJ is playing a deadbeat contract party and daring the other side (Hybe/Ador) to sue them to uphold the validity of the contract. The plaintiff in this case will have to bring evidence to the courts to support their claim which is also potentially advantageous because now Hybe/Ador in order to prove their claim could open themselves up to legal and public scrutiny via the documents they submit. We can all walk out from our various contractual obligations (e.g. loans, service agreements, leases etc.) unilaterally and with a bad hands of cards if we think we can get away with it. Been there, done that. But that was with far, far less money and risks at play
Bunnies crying out that NJ will never die have conveniently forgotten that their last album hit 600k+ sares in a week after this drama started. Falling down from nearly 1m from the previous one. Their sales will fall even further if they release an album this year. Whether they go back to Ador, or not. Never die? Slow death is more likely.
New Jeans will have more money added to their early termination penalties, making them fairly toxic to another agency. No other company wants to start a business relationship paying more than a billion dollars in fees. NJ unprofessional behavior also gives other agencies caution.
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult Mistakes are bound to happen with a new company/conglomerate. They have learned a lesson and it will not happen again - they will do more check-ins - but hopefully not LSM's micromanaging. They price autonomy but need to be a little more careful with people they know less well.
It’s so easy to say: ador should let 👖go. It’s not so easy. Ador is a company. A company is in business to make money. 👖just on the exclusive contract is worth $551.5 million USD; plus all the penalties for trying to get endorsements, not doing what their contract stipulates, etc, added to that. If the courts state they are free, NO ONE will sign them for fear they will do the same to them.
I’m just annoyed (now) that people think Newjeans has this IT factor and have been so impactful. Like NO, they’re popular and that’s decreasing. Seeing bunnies everywhere and possibly bots, not actual bunnies, doesn’t equal impactful. Their career didn’t change the industry in any way. They’re no where near the caliber of ANY 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gen group who have FULLY left their mark and legacy in the industry. 4th gen is even debatable but I’m not debating that. They’re popular and that’s it. Nothing more. And just cuz some people say they didn’t find newjeans or like them cuz they came from hybe doesn’t mean it’s factual in general. Most who supported them were army. They’re mostly gone. Bandwagon fans are irrelevant cuz they support them due to hate against hybe and hybe groups (esp BTS) not cuz they actually stan the group. Anyone against hybe or their groups they will support blindly without caring about the actual group they suddenly support. Anyways, I think I went on a huge tangent but Newjeans isn’t impactful in any way to the industry. Their weak claims against ador make no sense. And most of those claims happened when MHJ was still their CEO but it’s others fault????? They bring something of substance to their case, I’ll give them a chance to finally speak up for themselves but it’s never been for themselves. Who tf claims mistreatment but mostly demands their CEO back.. that same CEO who was there when the mistreatment happened? Cuz it’s only ever been about blackmailing a company into bringing back MHJ as CEO. Now they she left - they wanna go too. That’s fine, do it the legal way and move on to do whatever they wanna do. Then we’ll see if they still have this star quality without HYBE’s money and connections - cuz THAT is why they got what they got in the 2 and so many months into their careers. Not MHJ. If she had those connections and money she wouldn’t have needed hybe to make her own label or pick trainees from another label under hybe labels. That woman isn’t as amazing as you people boast about. Her creativity only goes so far.. so let’s see what happens without HYBE’s money and connections - will they still have it all with a totally new concept? Bigger question is - will MHJ drop them if she finds something better along the way? 🤔 I still think she’ll drop them because it’ll become a bit too much getting them away from ador.. time will tell for A LOT of things.
the level of grooing mhj has done is actually just disgusting, shes doing all this for her own gain, even if it means destroying the group she created, but she doesnt care right? she just wants money and power, she could care less about bunnies and newjeans, and the level of grooming shows when newjeans still blindly follow her, even when she insulted them.
Ador is playing it smart. To you they may look weak but they have all the ammunition, and the brats have nothing. They are trying to provoke Ador to file a lawsuit to terminate their contract which would put everything on Ador to prove this way the brats have to show real evidence of mistreatment and they don't have it.
Why does so many people think Haerin is just gonna switch up one day? I keep seeing that but she’s just a quiet person for all we know she’s the most dedicated she once sent Mhj a very heartfelt personal letter as well
There's rumors that the male relative who was exposed along with MHJ in the Dispatch article is Haerin's uncle. So people think that she might be scared and end up betraying the others like that Fifty Fifty member who went back. Now, the others are in debt and are blacklisted
@@Samuel-hu8uk What people also look into is the fact that the girls said that they are (still) close - as no-one asked. It is funny how often they say something - *before* stuff gets out - to make their own narrative so people are confused/hopeful.
Even if NewJeans somehow get favorable court rulings I still wouldn’t be convinced they are in the right I thought the ruling logic behind MHJ’s first injunction win was stupid I don’t always agree with judges the ruling was like MHJ planned corporate espionage but didn’t act on it and she attacked Hybe not Ador why I feel like some weird logic could happen like that again
you see how KG from Vcha handled herself 👏👏, she thanked the company for the opportunities she got, she recognized the role they played and then she went on to mention their (terrible )short comings and made sure to file a lawsuit (s) in a court of law and is now waiting quietly for the courts to make their decision(not just continuing to make noise online ). Hot take her issues in vcha are more concerning that the ones Nj have presented so far and had way more potential for drama ,however , since her group is not as popular just like what happenned with madein it remains in the shadows of public opinion. Also u see how she presented herself, it was classy and well thought out and you could tell that she had been well advised by the adults around her. Before pple go off on me comparison was inevitable.
The VCHA chick have a slam dunk legal case by the look it, making public noise is not needed and maybe counter productive . US laws, and Californian ones in particular, for protection of minors is not a good match to say it at least for the attitudes and practices in the K-pop idol industry. Big clash of cultures and all kind of relevant US laws, regulations and cultural norms likely violated thereof. Not sure why JYP thought they could pull this stunt off in the first place nor why she and the other girls was not not cut loose early on when it become clear that things was not working out
@OleLeik true her case is most probably a slam dunk ...i was just comparing how it was handled ...i know the two cases are actually different ...i was just highlighting that the way NJ handled their issues was really sloppy and could have been done WAY better .
@@unbiasedStan But would the American chick have handled it this way if she was sitting with worse cards in her hand? The thing is that that the two cases appers to be opposite, by the look of it this one is a also a slam dunk legal case - but in favour of the company. Said company is not pure as driven snow, but these girls would need a fair amount of documention of blatant abuse and exploitation that goes well beyond of what is seen as normal and OK in their country for this line of work - and they appear to have none. So. if you company do not want to play ball and you can not get a verdict in your favour in a court of law by suing them……
NJ are self-destructing and are MHJ pawns. They are immature and have wasted their talent in these dramas that make them look like silly and immature. Too bad….
Elon is crazy enough to do shit like that but I don't think he's gonna be happy with the attention they'll get. That man only wants himself as the main star.
no they signed with hybe they should abide by the laws or they should just disband and leave the industry, you cant waltz into the idol scene and demand to be the boss of your own group just because they believe they have been so badly (sarcastic) mistreated by hybe. im surprised hybe isnt suing them for defamation of character tbh. they either want to be idols or not
I like how all these ppl are trying to be fair to hybe a faceless corp who would rather pump out a one hit wonders than artists and they lost something like 400 million over there own employees asking for something. There 5 gorgeous girls their gonna be fine money cant fix ur reputation or buy u angelic good looks
No way should they let them go. They owe Hybe money for everything they did for the girls. That’s what they want. They need to learn that contract is a contract. You can’t just break it without consequences. Hybe will get their money back through the brand deals because none of it can be paid to them unless through Hybe. When their contract is up then they can go.
They should be relegated to cleaning toilets, the kitchen and grunt work until their contract expires and salaries appropriate to industry/job duty standards. Does South Korea have minimum wage?
They are contract workers, not employees, so no relegating to other types of in company work positions for them. What can and well might be done is dungeoning them for the remaking 5 years or so their contract. No promotion, no resources, no schedules. no work, no income, banned from doing any idol related work without permission. if they want or need to work shifts at McDonald or do whatever low wage none idolish work they are qualified for I presume their company would be fine with that
I’m sorry I. Sure this will offend, but it’s my personal opinion, watching those ‘girls’ in this clip is like watching paint dry. They do everything by rote, there is no grace or elegance, no rhythm or emotion, step left, step right, lift arm, drop arm, turn, kick, turn, kick the other way. If this is them performing at their best I think their publicity and success was purchased.
Man, they dont put effort on a choreo. Does anyone here remember Girls Generation? They did great choreo. NJ dance like my sister in her 3rd grade butterfly little school concert.
NO WAY THEY NEED TO GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT WHAT BENEFITS THEY MAY GET, IE: Being Adored or being a second rate could be’s, but truly they have to prove themselves but Girls do yourselves a favour and get real, u r only here for a short time and make the most of the financial opportunities that is being presented to you, kiss and make up really get rid of something that is using you young ladies ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ love the really opportunity and see the truth 😎😉😘
Like seriously just let them go???? Huh not like for them the other groups suffers so much , also not just groups but they ruin the entire reputation of the company and groups. And they are just MEAN GIRLS
1:02 mhj constantly gushing abt her “creative vision” and the girls constantly going on long rants abt all that she has done for them has made so many bunnies feel like mhj is the only reason for their success. Without hybe/ador money and resources mhj’s vision and the girls talent wouldn’t have really amounted to much. Just look at nugu groups they got the talent and concept are barely known
The injunction that Ador filed with the court needs to be approved first before it can be implemented. What if the court decides to reject it? For example, the court may decide that until the validity of the contract is decided, the girls have the right to do individual work so that their professional career will not be harmed if the court issues an order in their favor to cancel the contract. However, if Ador wins the case, she can later sue the girls for her share of the profits and sue all the companies that signed individual contracts with the members. Is this possible?. Thank you so much I look for your videos everyday🎀
Yes, ADOR actually argued in their injunction request that allowing the NewJeans members to work independently wouid do more harm to them as an agency than the reverse would to the careers of NewJeans. An injunction is meant to preserve the status quo while a larger case plays out, and you'll have to prove that a. Your case is strong enough to begin with and b. There is a real need to preserve the way things are. NewJeans are the only artists in ADOR, the confusion about their contract situation has caused harm to multiple parties like advertisers, and the precedent this sets would have catastrophic effects on the industry as a whole. They also mentioned that penalties for NewJeans (and any third parties that work with them in the interim) would SKYROCKET if the status quo isnt preserved. This is reasonable logic for an injunction. We don't exactly know what counterarguments the girls will put forth, but they've hinted at a few. They said in a recent statement that forcing them to continue work under ADOR is "inhumane"... So basically, they'll have to convince the court that things at ADOR are SO bad that continued work would be a violation of their human rights... Anything is possible, especially in the South Korean legal system. ADOR has a stronger case and their arguments are compelling. I do believe they'll win the injunction, but until we hear NewJeans counter to these arguments, it's hard to know how much a chance the girls have, if any.
@@CapitalVictims Thank you so much for your explanation. I CAN SEE NOW HOW HUGE THIS CASE IS FOR THE KPOP INDUSTRY !! For how entitled the girls are acting, I cant wait to see their evidence.
Unless Ador have really messed things up that would be standard exclusive idol contracts ensuring the money train for anything idol related goes through the company and needs their approval. This happened after the girls tried to contact advertisers on their own. The injunction is too block them (and send a message by filling it) from doing business with third parties by getting a court confirmation that Adors contracts with them are valid and binding (and they are as far as we know) Any party that wishes to mitigate further damages for the time being from the breaching party would do the same thing.
Do we already know exactly what is going on with Ador's lawsuits against the five, for example when they will go to court? To be honest, as soon as all this is over I think there will be a huge celebration for everyone and they will just be happy that it's all over.
Many things are not fixable in these days and age, at least in a cost effective and safe manner - but if you own said thing you can solve that issue by scrapping it. Which I presume will be how this mess eventually get solved. Not a good outcome for any of the involved parts and not without great cost thereof, but if your product is faulty to the point of being a liability and appers to be beyond repair, what else can be done?
This MHJ person is making so much damage to those girls (which by the way all of them are grown ups now)and Hybe is still giving them the opportunity to no destroy their future. If they keep acting like brats all this is going to explode them in their pretty and dumb face. Is just common sense, lets give time to time. We'll see who is right according to low, they did so much damage to kpop that no one would bare all thats coming for they i hope you fans of they help them. For sure they will need you
I’ll never forgive them for foolish us. Leave hybe aside, the way Nj and mhj fooled us is what I have problem. These innocent face children are the masterminds behind all this controversy is what I’m upset about. Idk why bunnies are still supporting these ungrateful kids. I mean humanity exists right?? why these bunnies and other fandoms are only attacking ador and hybe??? Why not mhj and Nj???
They might be a lot of things, but not the master minds of their demise. It’s should by now be fairly clear that they were groomed by someone who had ultimate access and authority in their lives, to the point of being brainwashed and are these days not thinking or acting rational, nor in their own interest. That kind of “programming” doesn’t go away until they have been separated from the their groomer and spent a lot of time in counseling. Don’t get me wrong I’m not a Stan or even avid listener, but I blame mhj as the number 1 villain, number 2 is hybe for not doing anything until mhj turned on them, number 3 is their parents for let them into a rather shady industry as such young and vulnerable age and not stepping in and protecting their children. Then the girls can be blamed down the road but for now I think the girls are more victims than villains, similar to children being weaponized by divorcing parents or members of cults. If it makes you feel better they will likely end up getting harshly punished for the somewhat crazy stuff they have said and done. They are well on their way in a career suicide, the best they can realistically hope for at this point is not having their post idol life destroyed as well.
@ No. 2 is Nj. I’m so done and I’m not supporting them anymore and you too don’t be so blind towards these innocent looking girls. They are very toxic to kpop industry right now. My only problem with hybe is why did bsh recruited mhj in hybe. Why did he trained Nj members to get backstabbed by both mhj and Nj for her greed. My 🦶 n 👊🏻 to Nj n Mhj. These ungrateful and selfish kids will regret when they reach at the age of 40s - 50s to the rest of their life. They’ll always remain as the ungrateful and spoiled brats in the history of Kpop and music industry as a whole. I feel so ashamed to be part of bunnies. No more blind bunnies anymore. Karma is waiting for them.
@@Blahblahblah03-24 They were raised and kept in a bubble for their entire adolescence and now that bubble have bursts. They can ill handle that and are desperately and futility trying to un-burst it because that was what made them feel privileged, comfortable, loved and safe. But the reality and real world is different. These girls shows multiple tell tale signs of being groomed and being part of a personality cult. By the look and sound of it they will be blindly and irrationally supporting their beloved «mother» until the bitter end. If they were indeed groomed: I dont know abaut you, but I dont think "I hate grooming victims becuase I blame them for supporting the perpetrator" is a good take. Their kind is damaged goods that need to get a grip on reality and situational awareness sooner rather than later and having their brains re-wired. At this point I would be happy to see New Jeans disbanded and the girls getting blacklisted by the entire K-pop industry, going back to school or getting employed in a healthier line of work - preferably without having to deal with a debt mountain of penalties and legal fees from this mess
Elon already has connections to Kpop. Gowon from Loona is godmother to one of his kids. I hope he does buy them out and give them their own label. The girls deserve it. Also 'SMB' is a slamming track 😂
Accept they aren’t free legally yet. LEGALLY matters ya know. We all want them to leave and never look back but again - LEGALLY. Proof, and win in court.
Not as new Jeans. HYBE/Ador own that that group and everything related (except the girls themself of course, as owning fellow humans is illegally these days) Free as a bird? Doing what you want? Ask the three former 5050 chicks how much that freedom costed them and how much options they had afterward. Idols are contract workers, not employees. Yes, contract workers can quit and breach their contracts on none legal grounds, but……not without consequences. And in this case they will be be quite dire under the best of realistic scenarios
Haha Hybe never supported them the way they supported Le Serf and Illit. They spent 10 million on NJ debut compared to over 100 million to Illit. Le Serf were given Hybes best producers. NJ were not. Bang Si didn't write any music for them like he did for Illit and Le Serf.
NJ apartment was the best in comparison with others - especially they've it during rookies time! Unlike other groups, let alone BTS's. Have you seen the video, early time of BTS's? So painful. What luxury NJ got. Songs. Do you think Hybe had much power towards the MHJ demands in running NJ as her puppets? HYBE gave everything MHJ wanted! She just wanted her puppets thankful towards her, not to BSH. Fat chance she allowed BSH to interact with NJ, let alone creating a song for NJ. Don't come here and start complaining about the past. They decided to leave. I'm looking forward how NJ lives without Hybe. And other artists under Hybe can be a one happy family again. Finally!
All of this is incorrect. Everyone that has followed them from the beginning knows they were given the most. They were given an entire floor and label for themselves. They’re the only group in hybe with their own dressing room. MHJ did not allow Hybe to offer producers. That was one of her demands upon becoming CEO. New jeans had the biggest backing. Illit did not get an entire label to themselves and all these perks. Stop spreading misinformation
BSH cannot write for Nj cos he’s not their main producer same way he’s not the main producer for a few groups under Hybe… a group that wasn’t supported had multiple mvs and massive promotions right off the bat? Goodness gracious, they’re not the “mistreated” y’all try so hard to make them be.. Nj were treated well and Ador was given freedom that other sub-labels weren’t given… Illit & Lesserafim were also treated well.. my comment isn’t focused on them cos their fandoms aren’t claiming otherwise…
Min Heejin herself said multiple times that she did not want Bang PD to produce for them and wanted to construct her own team. Min Heejin CHOSE their music producers and songwriters. It's actually crazy how you have literally 0 knowledge about anything lol
Min Heejin 🧢 and NewJeans Never Die 💙🩷💛💚💜💪🏻
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please keep being barinwashed and continue supporting themm
They'll eventually be blacklisted tho 😂
@@MOARMYForyou if they lose, which is highly likely, they will be banned same like the ex 5050 members
Have fun waking up and realizing that the world is not the way you want it to be.
People that girve the credit of newjeans success to MHJ alone are delulu cause lets face it yes she is creative but without hybes money resources and connections non of them would've had a chance to be noticed or showcase any of their talent so lets be realistic cause no matter how bad hybe might be they were the main reason why anyone have ever paid attention to newjeans
tbh, if they debut from a small company, people wouldn't even notice them, unless they go the 50:50 blow up
Hybe isn't bad the only ones complaining are this criminal group and that freak they "love"
They rode BTS' coattails by calling themselves BTS' little sisters. Yes, they absolutely benefited under the HYBE umbrella and now they are trying to claim the spoils by stabbing BTS and HYBE, among others, in the back. Min Hee Jin and the members of New Jeans are truly despicable, unethical, immoral people.
@@einna1534
Fifty Fifty got their chance because of an English version the label promoted by paying Tiktok to make the song go viral.
@@einna1534 Pretty much
Is sad to see how these girls turned out but their plan to leave hybe wasn’t over night. In their two years of the group they didn’t even complain once. As soon hybe did that audit everything shifted.
Yeah I wondered about that too. And I objectively listend to their complains and why they feel mistreated. If they truly are them I’m all for artists leaving a company. But the things they are listing isn’t enough reason for me at all. I work in a company too and I experience similar things. We have talks about that and try compromising. Work life isn’t always just perfect. We have to deal with it
And ya know what, even IF the audit was cuz hybe was covering up the plagiarism accusations that she said she brought up (i don’t believe that at all btw) - it still showed proof of her plans to take ador and newjeans, if anything destroy hybe, bang pd, and BTS. She’s NOT a good human being at all. Idc what newjeans say or why they still support her. It’s irrelevant. They wanna stick by someone like that, that’s their problem to deal with. Them blaming the new CEO (who had been at the job a week at the most) or putting the blame on her is ridiculous as hell too. They want MHJ or nothing. Fine, go with nothing. They can start over with MHJ and see how far they get when they aren’t Newjeans anymore - at all!
Exactly 💯, 2 years they were pampered giving the best ,no complaints, and the harrasment about being ignored if ever happened MHJ was still the ceo
@@jesss757and if we go online and complain about the company, contract or not we get fired.
Seems that the bullying they complain off, was under her watch if it had been happening for years, so the truth is, if there was any bullying, it was done by 🧢 it just wasn’t to them, they were in the mean girl group who bullied everyone around them that they deemed weak or vulnerable, 👖 are the same as their mother. Horrible people.
What we do know is that the investment for their debut came from the hard work of my favorite group, their promotion was boosted thanks to my favorite group's fame, and I first discovered them through challenges with my favorite group. So, I'll be happy when this school parody finally comes to an end.
Fun fact: Min Heejin said in an interview in 2023 that she feels like she birthed NewJeans and NewJeans said back that she’s their second mom that should tell you how deep this really is they ain’t turning back
Yes she did say that ...its creep af 🤮
Yeah she's the mom in King Solomon's story that wanted to cut the baby in half. 💀
Sorry but fun fact, it’s weird
she needs to never be around children
Yeah, I agree. Newjeans should just follow MHJ.
BUT they are obligated to pay for the termination fee.
Just pay it and they are free to go anywhere they want. It should be easy without MHJ's hocus pocus manipulations and media plays to attack Hybe and their artists.
ADOR will eventually let them go; but until then, they’re probably teaching the girls what it means to sign a contract and doing business. You just don’t wake up one morning and walk away.
Not without paying the penalty
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult thats the point theyre making they cant just wake up and choose to leave
honestly, I wish the next news I will hear about new jeans is about them being blacklisted. let it end please.
Se strinjam!
Lol
This being court it will probably take years sadly.
Same here 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Them being blacklisted and ador will continue nj with new members and became successful, those girls will be just👀👀
NO, HYBE should NOT let NewJeans go!!! The way I see it, if NJ wants to leave, then NEED to pay up. And that will be a whole lot of money. So mommy and daddy will have to clean out their savings. And may have to get a big loan from the bank. These young ladies should not be given the free card. Who gives these young ladies the right to tell what they want or they want it. NOPE,NOPE.....NJ owes HYBE , for letting them have their chance to do KPOP, You can not get out of a contract of any kind. You have to pay your dues. There is more I could say, but.......
Exactly they want these girls to be above the law
exactly they cant just walk out freely hybe isnt a get out of jail free card
I'm fairly certain New Jeans has made Hybe huge profits and by far exceeded the investment money Hybe put into them. And it wouldn't surprise me if Hybe is very negative and toxic in it's behaviors just like MHJ.
@@brianlittrell797 A group must make their label earned money every single year of their contract, not just the first two. And could you adult men stop hanging out on our channels? Don't you have your channels where you can all meet up and talk about girls' asses and tits?
@@brianlittrell797 it doesn't matter when paying damages. They also have to pay what they would have been able to make in the remaining years of their contract
How can the 4 adult NJ members and their parents be that blind to their wrong ways. cannot believe thay all feel that way. I feel something is going to break soon.
She had years whle she isolated them from all information sources that were not hers and set at their parents table.
Someone wanted to talk to someone in HYBE?
Min pretends to send the message - in reality nothing - than says they refused to the one asking.
It helps that the girls only "friends" are in SM not HYBE artists.
HYBE have no interest in releasing NJ from their contracts before they get expires years from now, and unless NJ have a fair amount of LOONA calibre ammunition to use against their company in a court of law they are fully depending on said company agreeing with their self declared »termination». It seems to me that HYBE dont have much interest to do anything with NJ either once their current contracted schedules comes to an end due to all the damage, distrust and bad blood their antics and this spectacle have caused, so….of too the dungeon they let them go?
I keep wondering why the NJ girls are intentionally running their highly successful career into the ground for this woman. It’s a shady industry at best of times, and these companies only exist to make money, so I can see dozens worth of plausible reasons for a idol group to breach their contract, but this one just do not make sense to me. I want to side with the artist by default, but NJ has failed at making a convincing argument or even rational points or sound reasoning . Someone dismissed your concerns? An employee spoke negatively about you? Really? Their case against their company are going to have to get far more serious for me to think this isn’t just teenage girls temper tantrum gone horrible wrong
There is a misconception here Ador is their company not Hybe,
M H J is the one who has the delusion that she will take over Hybe and leave BSH and BTS with nothing.
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult
Like other idols under HYBE their are signed to a sub label, but its the top dog that is calling the shots. HYBE need to control all their sub-labels and manage their management teams of or look impotent and unreliable in the eyes of corporate investors. If the problematic chicks ends spending the next 5 years on hiatus under Ador, HYBE will be fulfilling Min Hee-jin's prophecy to leave Ador as an empty shell. In that case, with no business or revenue there, the payout on her 18% of Ador would become nothing.
@OleLeik
Not quiet.
HYBE is the business side of multiple labels but the labels are responsible for the choice of trainees, debuting artists/artists, music and promo themselves.
ADOR still has the backing catalogue of NJ. They make money with that - you can listen/watch to HYBE's finance reports.
They are also posting for auditions at the moment.
(HYBE Boy does translations and speaks about stocks etc.; Asian Entertainment and Culture also spoke about numbers as they are public)
@@ruthfischer7615
Sub companies are largely operating independent, until they are not. HYBE is all abaut money and marketing. They dont care much abaut how their assorted sub companies are running their houses nor their internal affairs - as long as said house it following their lead, is profitable, and is in resonnable good order that is.
Adors house for whatever reason become messy to say it at least, upsetting HYBE by causing money and marketing issues. It’s now in the process of being cleaned up. It’s uppity and ill behaving house manager was terminated, time will tell what fate her somewhat suicidal behaving idols will have, but if I was working as a staff there I would be well on my way looking for other employment exspecting the pulling of the plugg of the houses sole source of income
I think you know what tampering is. This is all just a story of tampering with the complicity of the girls. Their only goal was to pocket more than 20% of their earnings, as is currently the case in their contract (I read). My theory is that MHJ and NJ were deceived by a label (SM Ent.) who then left them on the street. NJ thought that by being bitches they would be released by Ador and sign a fabulous contract with another label. SM had no intention of signing them, it just made sure that they ruined their career, taking advantage of their monstrous greed. Now SM is about to debut their girl group and the NJ have disappeared from the scene.
NewJeans defending and supporting a shady woman is just not a good look. There were things said about MHJ that I can't really look at NewJeans the same anymore.
Hybe's money and resources really made tokkis delusional. Those girls are not as powerful and influential as y'all think😂😂😂 that's why mhj needed hybe in the first place to debut her group "take over the world" lmao ok
NJ is not MHJ's group, it's Ador's group.
this is why people laugh at this fan base. The fact that y'all say these girls get mistreated but then say that Elon Musk of all people would do a better job is crazy to me knowing him he'll probably try to marry one of them
Man, if yall hate HYBE this much then GOOD LUCK with Elon Musk 🤭 Let me know how it goes
Elon wouldn't touch those greedy brats he's not a stupid man
Ikr, this group's fans have lost their minds💀
so what does Elon get?
sacrifice your own body and soul like mhj said before? 😢
Why they should let NewJeans go after giving them all, if the want to leave they they should pay
Look great people recognize other great people that's the case with Hitman Bang and MHJ. Chairman Bang knew MHJ was extremely talented but he misjudged her character and he is paying for it. There is no way in hell a court is going to let NewJeans get away with their actions without paying the fees. If a court rules in their favor K-POP will never be the same and the Industry will shrink. K-POP agencies rely on outside investors to operate and if Idols can simply walk away from an exclusive contract nobody is going to invest in that especially from the West.
We know rarely court of laws goes against the companies in such matters unless things are documented to be of really blatantly abusive and exploitative nature like the LOONAs case. Sadly, as a causal fan: I would say till this moment, with all things showed, even 5050, messy as they was, had a better case to try their case in the court and they lost big time - and this was against a company much much smaller and powerfull. I was hoping these girls would have real mistreatment or contract issues to show for and let a laywer do the legal talking. But, its appers that is next to nothing, if not nothing, court worthy at play here. And knowing MHJ side and how she uses and leaks everything for mediaplay, if they had it they would already posted it it in some way.
@OleLeik If the NJs had a valid reason to terminate the contract, they would have sued the label and won. If they did not sue, it is because they know they have nothing in hand. FiftyFifty lost the case in two months.
@@bqanto
Their escape plan seems to be is to cause such a public uproar that Hybe decides to wash their hands clean. Essentially NJ is playing a deadbeat contract party and daring the other side (Hybe/Ador) to sue them to uphold the validity of the contract. The plaintiff in this case will have to bring evidence to the courts to support their claim which is also potentially advantageous because now Hybe/Ador in order to prove their claim could open themselves up to legal and public scrutiny via the documents they submit. We can all walk out from our various contractual obligations (e.g. loans, service agreements, leases etc.) unilaterally and with a bad hands of cards if we think we can get away with it. Been there, done that. But that was with far, far less money and risks at play
Bunnies crying out that NJ will never die have conveniently forgotten that their last album hit 600k+ sares in a week after this drama started. Falling down from nearly 1m from the previous one. Their sales will fall even further if they release an album this year. Whether they go back to Ador, or not.
Never die? Slow death is more likely.
I think their Japanese albums had 1 million sales - but 900 000 of those were in SK.
Mind you the sales to distributors also count as sales.
Now the group NewJeans no longer exists and they have ceased their activities as idols. They are just celebrities, like influencers.
Why do people need to bring Elon Musk into everything? 💀 good god
That really shows the extent of the delulu of those fans.
New Jeans will have more money added to their early termination penalties, making them fairly toxic to another agency. No other company wants to start a business relationship paying more than a billion dollars in fees. NJ unprofessional behavior also gives other agencies caution.
Elon wants to promote one person only and it's himself ,he's not dealing with ungrateful MHJ who doesn't know how to behave in society
New jeans contract end in 5 years…nothing else matters.HYBE will play by the books
5 remaining 7 originally, biggest mistake no other producer will be allowed to isolate a group it's unwise to begin with.
@@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult
Mistakes are bound to happen with a new company/conglomerate.
They have learned a lesson and it will not happen again - they will do more check-ins - but hopefully not LSM's micromanaging.
They price autonomy but need to be a little more careful with people they know less well.
@ I agree
i don't think elon has time to look into kpop business and his branding is pretty right winged now
Yeah he's gone off the MAGA deep end
@@CapitalVictims FR
He is busy running US
I am sorry, but they saying hybe is bad when SM is existing since decades.....
It’s so easy to say: ador should let 👖go. It’s not so easy. Ador is a company. A company is in business to make money. 👖just on the exclusive contract is worth $551.5 million USD; plus all the penalties for trying to get endorsements, not doing what their contract stipulates, etc, added to that. If the courts state they are free, NO ONE will sign them for fear they will do the same to them.
I’m just annoyed (now) that people think Newjeans has this IT factor and have been so impactful. Like NO, they’re popular and that’s decreasing. Seeing bunnies everywhere and possibly bots, not actual bunnies, doesn’t equal impactful. Their career didn’t change the industry in any way. They’re no where near the caliber of ANY 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gen group who have FULLY left their mark and legacy in the industry. 4th gen is even debatable but I’m not debating that. They’re popular and that’s it. Nothing more. And just cuz some people say they didn’t find newjeans or like them cuz they came from hybe doesn’t mean it’s factual in general. Most who supported them were army. They’re mostly gone. Bandwagon fans are irrelevant cuz they support them due to hate against hybe and hybe groups (esp BTS) not cuz they actually stan the group. Anyone against hybe or their groups they will support blindly without caring about the actual group they suddenly support. Anyways, I think I went on a huge tangent but Newjeans isn’t impactful in any way to the industry. Their weak claims against ador make no sense. And most of those claims happened when MHJ was still their CEO but it’s others fault????? They bring something of substance to their case, I’ll give them a chance to finally speak up for themselves but it’s never been for themselves. Who tf claims mistreatment but mostly demands their CEO back.. that same CEO who was there when the mistreatment happened? Cuz it’s only ever been about blackmailing a company into bringing back MHJ as CEO. Now they she left - they wanna go too. That’s fine, do it the legal way and move on to do whatever they wanna do. Then we’ll see if they still have this star quality without HYBE’s money and connections - cuz THAT is why they got what they got in the 2 and so many months into their careers. Not MHJ. If she had those connections and money she wouldn’t have needed hybe to make her own label or pick trainees from another label under hybe labels. That woman isn’t as amazing as you people boast about. Her creativity only goes so far.. so let’s see what happens without HYBE’s money and connections - will they still have it all with a totally new concept? Bigger question is - will MHJ drop them if she finds something better along the way? 🤔 I still think she’ll drop them because it’ll become a bit too much getting them away from ador.. time will tell for A LOT of things.
NJ stans have detached from reality by looking towards Musk. 🤦
the level of grooing mhj has done is actually just disgusting, shes doing all this for her own gain, even if it means destroying the group she created, but she doesnt care right? she just wants money and power, she could care less about bunnies and newjeans, and the level of grooming shows when newjeans still blindly follow her, even when she insulted them.
Ador is talking to a brick wall with every statement unfortunately
Ador napram deklet dela po zakonu!
Ador is playing it smart. To you they may look weak but they have all the ammunition, and the brats have nothing. They are trying to provoke Ador to file a lawsuit to terminate their contract which would put everything on Ador to prove this way the brats have to show real evidence of mistreatment and they don't have it.
Why does so many people think Haerin is just gonna switch up one day? I keep seeing that but she’s just a quiet person for all we know she’s the most dedicated she once sent Mhj a very heartfelt personal letter as well
Yeah I addressed it in my last unpopular opinions video. I think it stems from people misunderstanding her quiet personality
There's rumors that the male relative who was exposed along with MHJ in the Dispatch article is Haerin's uncle. So people think that she might be scared and end up betraying the others like that Fifty Fifty member who went back. Now, the others are in debt and are blacklisted
I really hope she would but sadly I guess that will never happen tbh
@@Samuel-hu8uk
What people also look into is the fact that the girls said that they are (still) close - as no-one asked.
It is funny how often they say something - *before* stuff gets out - to make their own narrative so people are confused/hopeful.
@@yolandamgulwa4869- I've read that is the youngest's uncle, Hyein.
Even if NewJeans somehow get favorable court rulings I still wouldn’t be convinced they are in the right I thought the ruling logic behind MHJ’s first injunction win was stupid I don’t always agree with judges the ruling was like MHJ planned corporate espionage but didn’t act on it and she attacked Hybe not Ador why I feel like some weird logic could happen like that again
I hear the South Korean court system is quite garbage. I just hope for a ruling that's fair and honest.
Nič nam drugega ne preostane, treba bo počakati na končno sodbo sodnika!
Nope, the contract is a standard contract, no way of clawing it back now
you see how KG from Vcha handled herself 👏👏, she thanked the company for the opportunities she got, she recognized the role they played and then she went on to mention their (terrible )short comings and made sure to file a lawsuit (s) in a court of law and is now waiting quietly for the courts to make their decision(not just continuing to make noise online ). Hot take her issues in vcha are more concerning that the ones Nj have presented so far and had way more potential for drama ,however , since her group is not as popular just like what happenned with madein it remains in the shadows of public opinion. Also u see how she presented herself, it was classy and well thought out and you could tell that she had been well advised by the adults around her. Before pple go off on me comparison was inevitable.
The VCHA chick have a slam dunk legal case by the look it, making public noise is not needed and maybe counter productive . US laws, and Californian ones in particular, for protection of minors is not a good match to say it at least for the attitudes and practices in the K-pop idol industry. Big clash of cultures and all kind of relevant US laws, regulations and cultural norms likely violated thereof. Not sure why JYP thought they could pull this stunt off in the first place nor why she and the other girls was not not cut loose early on when it become clear that things was not working out
@OleLeik true her case is most probably a slam dunk ...i was just comparing how it was handled ...i know the two cases are actually different ...i was just highlighting that the way NJ handled their issues was really sloppy and could have been done WAY better .
@@unbiasedStan
But would the American chick have handled it this way if she was sitting with worse cards in her hand? The thing is that that the two cases appers to be opposite, by the look of it this one is a also a slam dunk legal case - but in favour of the company.
Said company is not pure as driven snow, but these girls would need a fair amount of documention of blatant abuse and exploitation that goes well beyond of what is seen as normal and OK in their country for this line of work - and they appear to have none. So. if you company do not want to play ball and you can not get a verdict in your favour in a court of law by suing them……
When will this mess end 😢 I was such a fan of New Jeans. Their careers were on top
Just make them pay and let them go
Since they refuse this will take years, sadly.
Well Elon wanted to buy bts .. so i guess nj wouldn't be an option for him .. cause he's got taste 😂😂😂😂
Wait did he really? 🤣
@@CapitalVictims nah.. that was AI that was going viral lol
BTS is light-years above those wannabes
@@Hope_On_The_Stage love the user name 👌
@@morningglory8720 idk why I'm so happy about his tour when I'm not going 😂 I'm from Europe and I can't afford to go anywhere else lol
"Get somebody else to do it" hahahaha im gonna miss that tiktok when the app shuts down 😢
Hybe be like,ok you wanna go,pay all your penalty...
NJ are self-destructing and are MHJ pawns. They are immature and have wasted their talent in these dramas that make them look like silly and immature. Too bad….
Elon is crazy enough to do shit like that but I don't think he's gonna be happy with the attention they'll get. That man only wants himself as the main star.
"Couldn't hear you from your padded cell" 💀💀💀
I heard Hanni is currently in Australia. I hope by being away from SK and MHJ's domain, she could see the bigger picture of this problem.
I really appreciate your coverage over this. Very reasonable only looking at the facts and what said appreciate you and your work.
The first opinion is cute. Who is trying to pay millions of dollars and most likely deal with lawsuits just to sign NewJeans?
no they signed with hybe they should abide by the laws or they should just disband and leave the industry, you cant waltz into the idol scene and demand to be the boss of your own group just because they believe they have been so badly (sarcastic) mistreated by hybe. im surprised hybe isnt suing them for defamation of character tbh. they either want to be idols or not
Don't rule that out. HYBE still might. They may also sue for obstruction of business.
@@CapitalVictims oh i hope he does sue them lol it would be the nail in the coffin for newjeans
Hybe recognizes that this situation is much bigger than NJ.
Well said on every point
Thank you 🙏
For entertainment purposes only
and very entertaining indeed :)
Great video and commentary as always, looking forward for more news.
@RazgrizDavion81 thank you so much 🥲
It’s over. Contract is contract. NJ can’t win.
Never ever let go, they should pay for every disgusting tantrum they threw with arrogance!!!
I like how all these ppl are trying to be fair to hybe a faceless corp who would rather pump out a one hit wonders than artists and they lost something like 400 million over there own employees asking for something. There 5 gorgeous girls their gonna be fine money cant fix ur reputation or buy u angelic good looks
Elon would not touch them with their treacherous, entitled attitudes.
No way should they let them go. They owe Hybe money for everything they did for the girls. That’s what they want. They need to learn that contract is a contract. You can’t just break it without consequences. Hybe will get their money back through the brand deals because none of it can be paid to them unless through Hybe. When their contract is up then they can go.
They should be relegated to cleaning toilets, the kitchen and grunt work until their contract expires and salaries appropriate to industry/job duty standards. Does South Korea have minimum wage?
They are contract workers, not employees, so no relegating to other types of in company work positions for them. What can and well might be done is dungeoning them for the remaking 5 years or so their contract. No promotion, no resources, no schedules. no work, no income, banned from doing any idol related work without permission. if they want or need to work shifts at McDonald or do whatever low wage none idolish work they are qualified for I presume their company would be fine with that
I’m sorry I. Sure this will offend, but it’s my personal opinion, watching those ‘girls’ in this clip is like watching paint dry. They do everything by rote, there is no grace or elegance, no rhythm or emotion, step left, step right, lift arm, drop arm, turn, kick, turn, kick the other way. If this is them performing at their best I think their publicity and success was purchased.
Man, they dont put effort on a choreo. Does anyone here remember Girls Generation? They did great choreo. NJ dance like my sister in her 3rd grade butterfly little school concert.
NO WAY THEY NEED TO GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT WHAT BENEFITS THEY MAY GET, IE: Being Adored or being a second rate could be’s, but truly they have to prove themselves but Girls do yourselves a favour and get real, u r only here for a short time and make the most of the financial opportunities that is being presented to you, kiss and make up really get rid of something that is using you young ladies ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ love the really opportunity and see the truth 😎😉😘
Like seriously just let them go???? Huh not like for them the other groups suffers so much , also not just groups but they ruin the entire reputation of the company and groups. And they are just MEAN GIRLS
1:02 mhj constantly gushing abt her “creative vision” and the girls constantly going on long rants abt all that she has done for them has made so many bunnies feel like mhj is the only reason for their success. Without hybe/ador money and resources mhj’s vision and the girls talent wouldn’t have really amounted to much. Just look at nugu groups they got the talent and concept are barely known
Never in your wildest dream
Njs were not total unknowns. They had hella attention and blogs written about them before they even debuted bc of them
Being mhj’s group
lmao keep them in the company forever with the worst jobs or none.
The injunction that Ador filed with the court needs to be approved first before it can be implemented. What if the court decides to reject it? For example, the court may decide that until the validity of the contract is decided, the girls have the right to do individual work so that their professional career will not be harmed if the court issues an order in their favor to cancel the contract. However, if Ador wins the case, she can later sue the girls for her share of the profits and sue all the companies that signed individual contracts with the members. Is this possible?. Thank you so much I look for your videos everyday🎀
Yes, ADOR actually argued in their injunction request that allowing the NewJeans members to work independently wouid do more harm to them as an agency than the reverse would to the careers of NewJeans. An injunction is meant to preserve the status quo while a larger case plays out, and you'll have to prove that a. Your case is strong enough to begin with and b. There is a real need to preserve the way things are.
NewJeans are the only artists in ADOR, the confusion about their contract situation has caused harm to multiple parties like advertisers, and the precedent this sets would have catastrophic effects on the industry as a whole. They also mentioned that penalties for NewJeans (and any third parties that work with them in the interim) would SKYROCKET if the status quo isnt preserved. This is reasonable logic for an injunction.
We don't exactly know what counterarguments the girls will put forth, but they've hinted at a few. They said in a recent statement that forcing them to continue work under ADOR is "inhumane"... So basically, they'll have to convince the court that things at ADOR are SO bad that continued work would be a violation of their human rights...
Anything is possible, especially in the South Korean legal system. ADOR has a stronger case and their arguments are compelling. I do believe they'll win the injunction, but until we hear NewJeans counter to these arguments, it's hard to know how much a chance the girls have, if any.
@@CapitalVictims Thank you so much for your explanation. I CAN SEE NOW HOW HUGE THIS CASE IS FOR THE KPOP INDUSTRY !! For how entitled the girls are acting, I cant wait to see their evidence.
Unless Ador have really messed things up that would be standard exclusive idol contracts ensuring the money train for anything idol related goes through the company and needs their approval. This happened after the girls tried to contact advertisers on their own. The injunction is too block them (and send a message by filling it) from doing business with third parties by getting a court confirmation that Adors contracts with them are valid and binding (and they are as far as we know) Any party that wishes to mitigate further damages for the time being from the breaching party would do the same thing.
Do we already know exactly what is going on with Ador's lawsuits against the five, for example when they will go to court?
To be honest, as soon as all this is over I think there will be a huge celebration for everyone and they will just be happy that it's all over.
Not yet. A date has yet to be set
Tožbe se nadaljujejo v marcu.
The celebration will be epic when those greedy brats have their azz handed to them
They need to pay, from were they come as global😂 the hate comes from. The group and MHJ ppl trousers 👖 needs to pay and go
Let them go, make them paid their fines.
Nj should never interupt war betwen their snake mama and hybe.
2:21😅😅 good answer
😂😂like i said. Everything were messed up. No one can fix it nor solve it.
Many things are not fixable in these days and age, at least in a cost effective and safe manner - but if you own said thing you can solve that issue by scrapping it. Which I presume will be how this mess eventually get solved. Not a good outcome for any of the involved parts and not without great cost thereof, but if your product is faulty to the point of being a liability and appers to be beyond repair, what else can be done?
This MHJ person is making so much damage to those girls (which by the way all of them are grown ups now)and Hybe is still giving them the opportunity to no destroy their future. If they keep acting like brats all this is going to explode them in their pretty and dumb face. Is just common sense, lets give time to time. We'll see who is right according to low, they did so much damage to kpop that no one would bare all thats coming for they i hope you fans of they help them. For sure they will need you
Elon & NewJeans Group.. WOW!!🥲
bro just let them go💀👋
This was hilarious. 😂
Thank you
Elon please take them away!
LOL that would be an INSANE plot twist
Could you imagine if that actually happened 😂
Why would he do that, lmfao!
Elon have a brain, he wouldnt want to deal with entitled princesses without brains
@@allelitememesaem3916для этого нужно иметь такие же мозги как у новыхджинс😂
I missed ditto fancam so bad 😭😭
It's still the pinnacle 🙌
Well NJ is done so they are just dead weight to HYBE now.
NJ tiene que pagar y se puede ir , no pueden pagar, que los Bunnys le hagan donaciones.
Bro, the channel is from 2014.
Yes ma'am. I made it in highschool
Capital Victims were a MHJ/NJ reject....why so salty?
Payhybe and leave
FNJ.
New jeans should be let go..but...they need to be taught a lesson first!
I’ll never forgive them for foolish us. Leave hybe aside, the way Nj and mhj fooled us is what I have problem. These innocent face children are the masterminds behind all this controversy is what I’m upset about. Idk why bunnies are still supporting these ungrateful kids. I mean humanity exists right?? why these bunnies and other fandoms are only attacking ador and hybe??? Why not mhj and Nj???
They might be a lot of things, but not the master minds of their demise. It’s should by now be fairly clear that they were groomed by someone who had ultimate access and authority in their lives, to the point of being brainwashed and are these days not thinking or acting rational, nor in their own interest. That kind of “programming” doesn’t go away until they have been separated from the their groomer and spent a lot of time in counseling.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not a Stan or even avid listener, but I blame mhj as the number 1 villain, number 2 is hybe for not doing anything until mhj turned on them, number 3 is their parents for let them into a rather shady industry as such young and vulnerable age and not stepping in and protecting their children. Then the girls can be blamed down the road but for now I think the girls are more victims than villains, similar to children being weaponized by divorcing parents or members of cults. If it makes you feel better they will likely end up getting harshly punished for the somewhat crazy stuff they have said and done. They are well on their way in a career suicide, the best they can realistically hope for at this point is not having their post idol life destroyed as well.
@ No. 2 is Nj. I’m so done and I’m not supporting them anymore and you too don’t be so blind towards these innocent looking girls. They are very toxic to kpop industry right now.
My only problem with hybe is why did bsh recruited mhj in hybe. Why did he trained Nj members to get backstabbed by both mhj and Nj for her greed. My 🦶 n 👊🏻 to Nj n Mhj. These ungrateful and selfish kids will regret when they reach at the age of 40s - 50s to the rest of their life. They’ll always remain as the ungrateful and spoiled brats in the history of Kpop and music industry as a whole. I feel so ashamed to be part of bunnies. No more blind bunnies anymore. Karma is waiting for them.
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They were raised and kept in a bubble for their entire adolescence and now that bubble have bursts. They can ill handle that and are desperately and futility trying to un-burst it because that was what made them feel privileged, comfortable, loved and safe. But the reality and real world is different. These girls shows multiple tell tale signs of being groomed and being part of a personality cult. By the look and sound of it they will be blindly and irrationally supporting their beloved «mother» until the bitter end.
If they were indeed groomed: I dont know abaut you, but I dont think "I hate grooming victims becuase I blame them for supporting the perpetrator" is a good take. Their kind is damaged goods that need to get a grip on reality and situational awareness sooner rather than later and having their brains re-wired. At this point I would be happy to see New Jeans disbanded and the girls getting blacklisted by the entire K-pop industry, going back to school or getting employed in a healthier line of work - preferably without having to deal with a debt mountain of penalties and legal fees from this mess
I don’t know about y’all but I love Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein regardless of the drama
IN YOUR DREAMS
Elon already has connections to Kpop. Gowon from Loona is godmother to one of his kids. I hope he does buy them out and give them their own label. The girls deserve it. Also 'SMB' is a slamming track 😂
Res ne vem kaj je s to mladino v Koreji, samo sanjajo in nič ne delajo. Ali od zraka živijo!
Lmaooo
He won’t buy them with MHJ. They’re both narcissists and since he’s a Right Winger, he would not tolerate a female bossier than him.
Elon Musk no one with any intelligence would be linked with him, he like MHJ is considered delusional and toxic.
Elon should buy Hybe and make MHJ CEO.
Eww.
Elon Musk... 🤮 no one with any intelligence would be linked with him, he like MHJ is considered delusional and toxic.
Dumbest takes I’ve heard today 😂
Hey! We listen and we don't judge! 🤣
NewJeans love their Mom leave them alone
Patty Hearst ….
They shouldn't have signed the contract, they are in the wrong face it
Whatever you do & say, NewJeans will never comeback to Hybe/Ador. You must accept the fact THEY ARE FREE AS A BIRD they can do whatever they want.
Так заплати и катись на все четыре стороны. Воздух будет чище, свободу попугаям
Accept they aren’t free legally yet. LEGALLY matters ya know. We all want them to leave and never look back but again - LEGALLY. Proof, and win in court.
Not as new Jeans. HYBE/Ador own that that group and everything related (except the girls themself of course, as owning fellow humans is illegally these days) Free as a bird? Doing what you want? Ask the three former 5050 chicks how much that freedom costed them and how much options they had afterward. Idols are contract workers, not employees. Yes, contract workers can quit and breach their contracts on none legal grounds, but……not without consequences. And in this case they will be be quite dire under the best of realistic scenarios
They are free to work for the next 25 years to pay the penalty to HYBE.
When NewJeans and Min Heejin win will you issue your apology video Capital Victims for making 100+ videos on them?
why would she? 😂
Lol sure
MHJ said bunnies are stupid. And Nj have no talent. Why do you think she thinks that?
Pubertetnica z bujno domišljijo.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Haha Hybe never supported them the way they supported Le Serf and Illit. They spent 10 million on NJ debut compared to over 100 million to Illit. Le Serf were given Hybes best producers. NJ were not. Bang Si didn't write any music for them like he did for Illit and Le Serf.
NJ apartment was the best in comparison with others - especially they've it during rookies time! Unlike other groups, let alone BTS's. Have you seen the video, early time of BTS's? So painful. What luxury NJ got. Songs. Do you think Hybe had much power towards the MHJ demands in running NJ as her puppets? HYBE gave everything MHJ wanted! She just wanted her puppets thankful towards her, not to BSH. Fat chance she allowed BSH to interact with NJ, let alone creating a song for NJ. Don't come here and start complaining about the past. They decided to leave. I'm looking forward how NJ lives without Hybe. And other artists under Hybe can be a one happy family again. Finally!
Is that Hybe that determines that? Or Source and Ador that decides that?
All of this is incorrect. Everyone that has followed them from the beginning knows they were given the most. They were given an entire floor and label for themselves. They’re the only group in hybe with their own dressing room. MHJ did not allow Hybe to offer producers. That was one of her demands upon becoming CEO. New jeans had the biggest backing. Illit did not get an entire label to themselves and all these perks. Stop spreading misinformation
BSH cannot write for Nj cos he’s not their main producer same way he’s not the main producer for a few groups under Hybe… a group that wasn’t supported had multiple mvs and massive promotions right off the bat? Goodness gracious, they’re not the “mistreated” y’all try so hard to make them be.. Nj were treated well and Ador was given freedom that other sub-labels weren’t given… Illit & Lesserafim were also treated well.. my comment isn’t focused on them cos their fandoms aren’t claiming otherwise…
Min Heejin herself said multiple times that she did not want Bang PD to produce for them and wanted to construct her own team. Min Heejin CHOSE their music producers and songwriters.
It's actually crazy how you have literally 0 knowledge about anything lol