I'm starting to seriously doubt all the "car experts" on TH-cam. They said this Terrain wouldn't sell well because of the shifter. And the 2018 model year is the highest selling of any Terrain.
I know right?! They’re full of it! My mom had the ‘18 terrain, & I now have ‘22 yr model, & we both agree it’s an awesome car than it gets nearly enough credit for! What are these car reviewers smoking?! 😂
You can turn off the auto start stop. Just push "L" on the shifter button panel, and keep pressing "+" until it reads 9. The Terrain won't "start/stop" anymore.
My step-daughter bought one in January. Has spent almost as much time in repair, as it has on the road. Towed in after first week, wouldn't start. Said it was too cold. 2 weeks later, towed in, needed new control module. Wouldn't go into gear a week later, towed again. Spent whole month of February waiting for new transmission at 4 000 km. Has had 3 alignments, and new tires at 8 000 km. In May, back up camera display wouldn't stop displaying, constantly on. Needed new radio and dsplay screen. She just gets the run around from GM
Tell her to keep track and log everything that goes wrong with the vehicle and once it ends up going back to the dealership 3 times for the same issue, she can apply for lemon law and get her money back. GM already knows that a certain amount of these models coming out of the factory have some serious issues. The 3 big ones are #1 transmission failure, #2 electrical gremlins (GM techs are saying that the car just has too much electronic gadgetry), #3 engine failure. Because the current design was new in 2018, a lot of GM techs at the dealerships are also clueless about how to fix these issues. Once she hits that magical #3 of having the same issue repaired or in for service, after they do the repair she can let them know that she won't be in to pick up the vehicle because she will be invoking the lemon law. If she has a personal attorney they can draw up the paper work for her. She'll get her money back.
@@marketingmajor8126 too much tech? Such a l lame and pathetic excuse from GM. Japanese cars have nearly as much tech, but they don’t have their tech fail.
Hey, GM cleaned up the icons and UI on their infotainment. Nice. The GMC switchgear seems nicely updated as well. But they continue to cheap-out on the boot (the sharp edges bit her and I'm not surprised given other GM vehicles).
I wanted this car so bad in the slt but couldn’t get fiancing so my kids surprised me with a 2016 Equinox. I love it! I totaled my Toyota Camry last day in May! Still have neck and back pain!
Love that Lynn wore the plaid for this review! She has grown on me I didn’t like seeing anyone other than Micah in the beginning. Great job Lynn! You deserve an excellent salary.
The equinox is much better looking In my opinion. Out of the 3 the envision looks bland , the terrain is overstyled , while the equinox looks good. The equinox is definitely my favorite out of the 3.
One way to get around the auto start-stop is to either, put it in Neutral before coming to a stop, or slowly stop the car, instead of a normal application of brake, slow it right down then start feathering the brake, use almost no brake when it comes to a stop and the engine won't shut off.
When they redesigned the Terrain they moved the production from alongside the Equinox in Canada to Mexico, one big reason to pick the Equinox over the Terrain.
Have to agree. I have a buddy who has auto s/s on a different vehicle but it cuts out the phone whenever we are talking and he rolls to a stoplight. It’s highly annoying for a relatively little gain in economy.
I love my 2014 Terrain! Was thinking about keeping it and getting another one but I like the boxy design I have better. This looks like every other SUV!
Nice looking car, but the auto stop start would drive me crazy. I had a 2018 Chevy Cruze as a rental recently and the auto stop start made me think that the car broke down at first. I suppose one would get used to it after a while. I’m not much of an SUV fan, but I would consider looking at one of these. Good review :-)
Mike N I wasn’t a fan of SUVs either nor did I ever consider buying one when I was on the market looking for a new car. But of all the SUVs I eventually looked at, I found the new Terrain to be very practical and the ease of use of the interrior controls to be very intuitive. Clearly, the designers had this in mind as they were redesigning the interior, particularly the center controls. Compared to the outgoing and past center controls which I found to be too “busy, the set up for the 2018 was simple, with relatively small/medium buttons that didn’t look cluttered and are easily accessible. Handling, driving and steering is on point and very responsive. Some may find the drive a bit stiff but to me it’s quiet and smooth; and the Terrain absorbs the little and big bumps moreso than my Malibu ever did since it bounces one time only as opposed to the 2008 Malibu’s one and a half times. Turning radius on the Terrain also surprised me. It’s up to par to that of my old Malibu.
This is one of the more reasonable reviews I have seen thus far, but I just hate that it seems GMC is only sending the Denali version out for review. The Denali trim is I simply a horrible value. In the mid trim level the Terrain has a little more to offer than the Equinox without getting overly pricey. I like the infotainment system and the button/toggle shifting array is quite functional once you get used to it. While the start/stop feature cannot be turned off, the driver can choose to have the engine engaged immediately after stopping by releasing the brake and reapplying it. With the Denali version being too expensive for what it delivers, the big question for GMC is whether or not the Terrain has that little something extra in its other trim levels that will draw some buyers up from the Equinox.
LOLOL I thought of your Shirt when the tempeture 89 degrees appeared on the screen and full jeans UGH! I would of been sweating buckets. Where are you guys? L.A.? Great Review! I didn’t know the Terrain was priced that low!
I think you were probably overly generous on this. I've driven one as a rental from Hertz and....meh. The exterior design is pretty nice but the interior already looks super dated, scratches easily and isn't a fun place to be. The problem is the Equinox and indeed the rest of the competition - CX5, CRV etc etc are just so much better.
never! never !, Do not buy gmc terrain, and if you already have this car do not try to repair it at the dealer. you will be left without money and the car will not be repaired, most likely after 3- 4 years of use you will be offered to sell your car cheaply and take a new one! gmc - I've never seen worse!
I own a 2012 Terrain and was looking to trade up, but not being able to defeat the annoying start/stop feature in the new Terrain means I won't be buying a Terrain....or any other SUV that doesn't provide a means of turning off that "feature". What the hell were you thinking, GM?
I leased an amazing 2015 Terrain before getting a 2019 Terrain. I had no idea how far down hill a vehicle could go in so few years. My AWD is a complete piece of crap. The start/stop thing is so freakin rough every.single.time. you.stop. It's been in for service 4 times since I got it because it tends to do nothing when you step on the gas then speed off with no warning. This thing is so dangerous and they know it that's why it's down to $179.00 a month now. I'm spending twice that a month for the same SUV so they can ditch them all b4 it all comes out. If you're thinking about getting this you may want to try something else.
@@sheilahouston8242 that is because the oil formula has changed or the oil is not getting changed at all on the old 2.4l. We had a Terrain 2.4 on lease for 40K miles and never had any issues at all. Never burned oil even when turning 5,200 rpms over the Rockies and back!
@Jose Hernandez but then their are the GMC discounting....the newnonenshould be as quiet as the old Terrain with more sound deadening and laminated glass.
@Jose Hernandez automobile shopping is different today than it has been in the past years or decades. Today on AutoTrader or cars.com you can find trains for $10,000 off from multiple dealerships.
Auto start-stop is not “healthy” for turbocharged cars, since the Turbochargers need a bit of time before you stop the car’s engine, and a bit of time to warm up.
My last car had front cup holders positioned like this in this car and I hated that because my thigh always hit against whatever bottle was there. My current car has it the other way which was confusing until we designated who gets which one every time.
Why people are shouting Micah Micah? He could be irritating sometimes and it was getting worst. This hostess is better. She is doing a great job, i think.
I’ve gotten used to the electronic shifter. Not a big deal. One generally shifts twice from P to D and later from D to P. I have to admit the Start/Stop is a nuisance but I have managed to softly apply the brakes until the car stops but not press the pedal far enough to engage the Start/Stop system. I have the diesel so I’ve yet to shift the gears to L6 and see how that goes.
Lynn needs to take over the channel and film all the car reviews from now on! I liked her way better than that other guy who looks like the facebook owner trying to be funny and smart but just fails at it...
Is anyone experiencing poor heating during idle in cold winter conditions below 20 degrees? My wife claims that when she idles somewhere waiting in the car that the heat drops off precipitously.
Push button gear select and no disabling of auto stop/start. That’s a big pass. Had this had a traditional gear select lever or even the rotating dial, it would be ok but the fact you can’t turn off that auto stop/start is a massive turn off. Shame as I really like everything else about this vehicle and it is affordable.
Just saying side by side cup holders isn't a new thing. In fact I don't think I've ever owned a car where there isn't side by side front cup holders. 🙄
I'm starting to seriously doubt all the "car experts" on TH-cam. They said this Terrain wouldn't sell well because of the shifter. And the 2018 model year is the highest selling of any Terrain.
I know right?! They’re full of it! My mom had the ‘18 terrain, & I now have ‘22 yr model, & we both agree it’s an awesome car than it gets nearly enough credit for! What are these car reviewers smoking?! 😂
My mom just bought the Terrain Denali and it's an amazing vehicle wit all the features and quality of everything is awesome
That mineral green with taupe interior is Lexus-like!
The auto shutoff on my Equinox is something I disliked at first. Once I got used to it, I now love it.
4:33 McDowell's and Generic Gas...im dead 😂
You can turn off the auto start stop. Just push "L" on the shifter button panel, and keep pressing "+" until it reads 9. The Terrain won't "start/stop" anymore.
My step-daughter bought one in January. Has spent almost as much time in repair, as it has on the road. Towed in after first week, wouldn't start. Said it was too cold. 2 weeks later, towed in, needed new control module. Wouldn't go into gear a week later, towed again. Spent whole month of February waiting for new transmission at 4 000 km. Has had 3 alignments, and new tires at 8 000 km. In May, back up camera display wouldn't stop displaying, constantly on. Needed new radio and dsplay screen. She just gets the run around from GM
Tell her to keep track and log everything that goes wrong with the vehicle and once it ends up going back to the dealership 3 times for the same issue, she can apply for lemon law and get her money back. GM already knows that a certain amount of these models coming out of the factory have some serious issues. The 3 big ones are #1 transmission failure, #2 electrical gremlins (GM techs are saying that the car just has too much electronic gadgetry), #3 engine failure. Because the current design was new in 2018, a lot of GM techs at the dealerships are also clueless about how to fix these issues. Once she hits that magical #3 of having the same issue repaired or in for service, after they do the repair she can let them know that she won't be in to pick up the vehicle because she will be invoking the lemon law. If she has a personal attorney they can draw up the paper work for her. She'll get her money back.
Knowing the lemon law, it is not that simple or black and white. You'll never get all your money back. Not even with a lemon law lawyer.
Lemon car
Thats a lemon same happened with my 2017 f150.I have the 18 gmc terrain with 77k miles and no issues at all.
@@marketingmajor8126 too much tech? Such a l lame and pathetic excuse from GM. Japanese cars have nearly as much tech, but they don’t have their tech fail.
I test drove it and found it to be loud. I opted for the quieter and smoother ride offered by the GMC Acadia
Acadia still using the problematic motor that kills timing chains?
I really like the look of the new terrain, front and back. Interior looks great too
David Jensen it looks like a pig
Hey, GM cleaned up the icons and UI on their infotainment. Nice. The GMC switchgear seems nicely updated as well. But they continue to cheap-out on the boot (the sharp edges bit her and I'm not surprised given other GM vehicles).
Back seat reminder... Man.. Crazy how many people are actually gonna need that
You can shit it off too.
I wanted this car so bad in the slt but couldn’t get fiancing so my kids surprised me with a 2016 Equinox. I love it! I totaled my Toyota Camry last day in May! Still have neck and back pain!
We had a 2015 Terrain and my wife said it was her favorite car!
Love that Lynn wore the plaid for this review! She has grown on me I didn’t like seeing anyone other than Micah in the beginning. Great job Lynn! You deserve an excellent salary.
Why do u love it...after she said that about the start stop...im not buying yhe truck
McDowell’s. Very nice sneaking a “Coming to America” reference in.
I drove one of these today and its very nice for the price
The equinox is much better looking In my opinion. Out of the 3 the envision looks bland , the terrain is overstyled , while the equinox looks good. The equinox is definitely my favorite out of the 3.
the envision is made in china. deal breaker for that kind of money
Jordan Catcher Really the cheap Equinox? The Equinox is such a Fleet and rental car in my opinion.
Disney Fan I mean in terms of exterior styling , of course the terrain and envision are going to look better in the interior department.
The Equinox looks 15 years old
they do drive like a metal box
We got our 2019 GMC Terrain denali the end of June and both my wife and I love ours so very much I love having GMC and also so very comfortable
One way to get around the auto start-stop is to either, put it in Neutral before coming to a stop, or slowly stop the car, instead of a normal application of brake, slow it right down then start feathering the brake, use almost no brake when it comes to a stop and the engine won't shut off.
My brother is test driving this vehicle today. My pet peeve: people turning and not staying on their side of the lane.🤷🏾♀️
It's fun watching these KBB car reviews being from the long beach/north oc area - I know EXACTLY where every shot is filmed lol
You won me over! Because of your opening sentence I was a sceptic all the way thru. Clever, funny and more importantly a great review!
I often think, hey, that's a nice American car. But then I think, 45 grand for a Chevy!? No thanks.
Calvin Sanders for the seconds smallest one at that!
$45k can get you a nice XT5.
Cupholder confusion is definitely a thing! It happens in my wife's Highlander. Thanks for pointing that out.
When they redesigned the Terrain they moved the production from alongside the Equinox in Canada to Mexico, one big reason to pick the Equinox over the Terrain.
45k for a non-luxury brand compact SUV, GM must be crazy
wtyisgreat GMC is a “luxury” brand
It is the upscale Denali trim/sub-brand
Remember, GM does have lots of incentives, so no one really pays the MSRP.
I was gonna say you can get a pretty loaded Audi Q5 Premium Plus for like $48k
Incentives.
No defeat of the auto start/stop = no sale
We test drove one today and I hate the feature with a passion, but I couldn't even tell it had it till I watched the review.
As long as climate control is in either front defrost, or A/C in any position, auto start is turned off.
I have one and found that when the engine stops, let off on the brake until it starts again and reapply full brake pressure - it won’t stop again
Have to agree. I have a buddy who has auto s/s on a different vehicle but it cuts out the phone whenever we are talking and he rolls to a stoplight. It’s highly annoying for a relatively little gain in economy.
03:06, Thank you! I could not agree any more.
I love my 2014 Terrain! Was thinking about keeping it and getting another one but I like the boxy design I have better. This looks like every other SUV!
I got 2019 model and Loving it. Driver assist package is must to all new buyers.
Premium gas?
@@MrBrad122394 ^^^Great choice^^^
Premium fuel is recommended for all GM Ecotec turbo-4's, but not required.
McDowell’s and Generic Gas 😂😂😂 You guys are just showing off at this point lol. As always great review guys. You guys are my favorites.
Yeah but at 3.69/gal that's crazy!
Nice looking car, but the auto stop start would drive me crazy. I had a 2018 Chevy Cruze as a rental recently and the auto stop start made me think that the car broke down at first. I suppose one would get used to it after a while. I’m not much of an SUV fan, but I would consider looking at one of these. Good review :-)
Mike N I wasn’t a fan of SUVs either nor did I ever consider buying one when I was on the market looking for a new car. But of all the SUVs I eventually looked at, I found the new Terrain to be very practical and the ease of use of the interrior controls to be very intuitive. Clearly, the designers had this in mind as they were redesigning the interior, particularly the center controls. Compared to the outgoing and past center controls which I found to be too “busy, the set up for the 2018 was simple, with relatively small/medium buttons that didn’t look cluttered and are easily accessible. Handling, driving and steering is on point and very responsive. Some may find the drive a bit stiff but to me it’s quiet and smooth; and the Terrain absorbs the little and big bumps moreso than my Malibu ever did since it bounces one time only as opposed to the 2008 Malibu’s one and a half times. Turning radius on the Terrain also surprised me. It’s up to par to that of my old Malibu.
It´s explanation with loveable intonation
Where is the guy that normally does these review ? Bring him back
Micah Muzio.
I am also hearing there are 🔴Transmission Failures🚫 with the GMC 🚘Terrain 2018❗
Best thing in this video is your shirt! Thanks.
I LOVE your reviews. You are rocking it!!
I love mine!!!
This is one of the more reasonable reviews I have seen thus far, but I just hate that it seems GMC is only sending the Denali version out for review. The Denali trim is I simply a horrible value. In the mid trim level the Terrain has a little more to offer than the Equinox without getting overly pricey. I like the infotainment system and the button/toggle shifting array is quite functional once you get used to it. While the start/stop feature cannot be turned off, the driver can choose to have the engine engaged immediately after stopping by releasing the brake and reapplying it. With the Denali version being too expensive for what it delivers, the big question for GMC is whether or not the Terrain has that little something extra in its other trim levels that will draw some buyers up from the Equinox.
Where is Micah??
Murali Kodavati he is the manager now but he still does reviews
It was him. In a wig
he's right BEHIND YOU!!! ahhhhhh!
My question exactly. Bring Micah back!
Who cares?
agree with pet peeve; if can't turn off the stop/start feature, then I'm out.
LOLOL I thought of your Shirt when the tempeture 89 degrees appeared on the screen and full jeans UGH! I would of been sweating buckets. Where are you guys? L.A.? Great Review! I didn’t know the Terrain was priced that low!
Any plans to review the '22 Terrain AT4? I like the new AT4's more rugged look vs the chrome overdose on the Denali.
I think you were probably overly generous on this. I've driven one as a rental from Hertz and....meh. The exterior design is pretty nice but the interior already looks super dated, scratches easily and isn't a fun place to be. The problem is the Equinox and indeed the rest of the competition - CX5, CRV etc etc are just so much better.
Why it looks so big? I though from the outside it was a three row suv.
I bought a 2022 terrain slt awd love it I got the moonroof a love the buttons now that I'm used to them
Lovely, beautiful car. ALSO, the last Terrain had great reliability, so this should be the same.
Some viewers may be interested to know that production of the Terrain has been moved from Canada to Mexico,
Ehh still gonna stick with my 07 suburban
Well done Lyn nice review
Great looking terrain
never! never !, Do not buy gmc terrain, and if you already have this car do not try to repair it at the dealer. you will be left without money and the car will not be repaired, most likely after 3- 4 years of use you will be offered to sell your car cheaply and take a new one! gmc - I've never seen worse!
Thank you so much for doing this video.
Was this shot at san diego?
At close to $45,000 I think I'd opt to send a little bit more and buy an Audi Q5
i love her reviews
93Adamv23 - BORING 👎🏼
R B aw to bad i don’t share your opinion
The stop/start feature doesn’t bother me. I don’t have a Terrain but the feature is on my Tiguan! I can disable it of course but never ever do.
I own a 2012 Terrain and was looking to trade up, but not being able to defeat the annoying start/stop feature in the new Terrain means I won't be buying a Terrain....or any other SUV that doesn't provide a means of turning off that "feature". What the hell were you thinking, GM?
The aftermarket sells a plug-in module that overrides the stop/start.
I leased an amazing 2015 Terrain before getting a 2019 Terrain. I had no idea how far down hill a vehicle could go in so few years.
My AWD is a complete piece of crap. The start/stop thing is so freakin rough every.single.time. you.stop. It's been in for service 4 times since I got it because it tends to do nothing when you step on the gas then speed off with no warning. This thing is so dangerous and they know it
that's why it's down to $179.00 a month now. I'm spending twice that a month for the same SUV so they can ditch them all b4 it all comes out. If you're thinking about getting this you may want to try something else.
Early adapters s@ck sometimes as the pricing today on these and Equinox is very good!
All I got to was GMC does not allow you to turn off the automatic start/stop feature .... on to the next car
Does the 2.0 require premium fuel?
tom martin we just bought one, its recommended not required
If you like changing timing chains before 100000kms buy one of these.
Riezig I AM HAVING THIS SAME PROBLEM NOW! TIMING CHAIN AT 83,000 MILES ON MY TERRAIN! WHAT CAR DI THEY MAKE WELL? I NEED ONE!
PS I UNDERSTAND FROM A WORKER AT GMC THAT ALL EQUINOX AND TERRAINS ARE HAVING A TIMING CHAIN PROB BY 100 THOUS MILES!
@@sheilahouston8242 that is because the oil formula has changed or the oil is not getting changed at all on the old 2.4l. We had a Terrain 2.4 on lease for 40K miles and never had any issues at all. Never burned oil even when turning 5,200 rpms over the Rockies and back!
I liked the older style. I would never buy one that looks like this with only a 4 banger engine for 45K. I think they made a mistake.
@Jose Hernandez but then their are the GMC discounting....the newnonenshould be as quiet as the old Terrain with more sound deadening and laminated glass.
@Jose Hernandez automobile shopping is different today than it has been in the past years or decades. Today on AutoTrader or cars.com you can find trains for $10,000 off from multiple dealerships.
The 2.0 turbo blows the v6 out of the water no competition I’ve owned both
Auto start-stop is not “healthy” for turbocharged cars, since the Turbochargers need a bit of time before you stop the car’s engine, and a bit of time to warm up.
Not on today's turbos.
"goodbye 3.6 v6"
THEY NEED THE V6 BACK IN THIS NOWWW
Is the Jeep Cherokee the only model that comes with a V-6 4WD?
Honda Pilot
“EYEBALL FOOD”!!!
Love it!!
I’m still laughing.
Excellent review Lyn!! And by the way, you look great in flannel too!
THANK you for mentioning the forester 😂
Notifications squad!! Lol! Loved this review! 10/10 would drive 0-120 everywhere I’d go
Those cheekbones are crazy :D
🤣She does have great cheekbones!
I tuned in to learn more about the Terrain. The young lady is so beautiful and well-spoken, I've lost the ability to think.
My last car had front cup holders positioned like this in this car and I hated that because my thigh always hit against whatever bottle was there. My current car has it the other way which was confusing until we designated who gets which one every time.
The bad driving and horrible parking jobs killed me.
GMC interiors need to be upgraded.
Nice reference to Coming to America!
I like this lady, great review! Also gas is 3.69!? Yikes
Why people are shouting Micah Micah? He could be irritating sometimes and it was getting worst. This hostess is better. She is doing a great job, i think.
Comment Disabled Micah is never annoying.
I still like the first model I have it and am happy too much buttons don’t like I also like the body on the Sle1 model better
I love it the only thing that I have doubts is it has too many cameras and when one fucks up it’s gonna cost you a nut
😂
I’ve gotten used to the electronic shifter. Not a big deal. One generally shifts twice from P to D and later from D to P. I have to admit the Start/Stop is a nuisance but I have managed to softly apply the brakes until the car stops but not press the pedal far enough to engage the Start/Stop system. I have the diesel so I’ve yet to shift the gears to L6 and see how that goes.
Lynn needs to take over the channel and film all the car reviews from now on! I liked her way better than that other guy who looks like the facebook owner trying to be funny and smart but just fails at it...
Is anyone experiencing poor heating during idle in cold winter conditions below 20 degrees? My wife claims that when she idles somewhere waiting in the car that the heat drops off precipitously.
Most cars today wont heat up quickly when idling due to emissions.
They need to be started and driven to warm up and lessen remissions.
Never buying this because it can't turn off automatic start stop feature. That is annoying but great review though. Thanks
Push button gear select and no disabling of auto stop/start. That’s a big pass. Had this had a traditional gear select lever or even the rotating dial, it would be ok but the fact you can’t turn off that auto stop/start is a massive turn off. Shame as I really like everything else about this vehicle and it is affordable.
2019 is out. Still has annoying stop/start system without an override button. And, of course, still has the fiddly-diddly shifter. Shame on GMC.
i have it on my toyota. delay is a slip second at a stop. not sure why people hate it
Because not all auto stop/start systems are made equal ; )
whats the delay ont he gmc
Have you the start/stop system on a 2018 Terrain, it's the best I've ever used. Almost undetectable.
I have a Chevy cruze and i just put it in L6 and it runs all gears like normal w/o start/stop
Good Job reviewing !!! :)
Yeah...I’ll stay in my little corolla. This is a funky ass car
My favorite reviewer ever she's so cute I love her little jokes.
Micah looks great with that wig
and flannel!
just buy a used 2016 maserati ghibli for the same price
Those things suck
We just got the same car today we love it but ours has no sun roof or leather seats lol
Why recommend this when it's second row side impact is rated poor. In 2018, that should not be rated poor.
She is growing on me lol. Good job
Lol that’s the same comment I left earlier
I don't get why brands are trying to get cute with the shifters
yup, I wonder when they finally admint column shifters supremacy
Have 2 2013 Terrains in my driveway now. There will never be any of these things. So much I hate about these.
We had a 2015 Terrain SLT on lease and was one of our better cars and then perfect size compared to the old style Acadia.
I love it..
Does it have TH-cam or Sirius radio
Wow really cool car. Good job GMC!!!
But coffee cup holders isn’t a thing... they are just cup holders!
Just saying side by side cup holders isn't a new thing. In fact I don't think I've ever owned a car where there isn't side by side front cup holders. 🙄
I like her better than the car! LoL!
Who are u and what have u done with micah ☹