My 13 year old son watched this video I figured out a few weeks ago. Yesterday came into his room at 1 am or so after hearing a loud bang from his room. He was wasted drunk with a bottle of vodka and some copper sheet and some tin snips and a torch trying to make mug. Definitely was one of my most proud moments of him its awesome watching your kids grow up into self sustaining adults. Thank you so much for this video
Samurai, The process for annealing copper or non-ferrous metals is bringing it to cherry red and quench quickly. The process for annealing Ferris metals is bring it to cherry red and allow to cool slowly.
Hey Samurai. Love your channel and projects. While you may never need this knowledge as you may not do more copper projects, may I tender some advice? You'll find it much easier to work with copper (particularly if you're hammering on it) if you anneal it periodically. Copper work-hardens quickly (gets harder and stiffer) and becomes more difficult to shape as you work it. With a simple propane torch you can heat it to a gentle glowing orange color, then let it cool or dip it in water. It will be much more malleable for a while. As it hardens up again, anneal it again. It does blacken but can be easily polished off, or, if you're going to work with copper regularly, buy or make some "pickle" solution which will remove the oxidation from annealing. Keep the vids coming!
WOW!!!! GREAT PROJECT, AND DEMONSTRATION! THANKS FOR "SHARING" THIS FABRICATION OF THESE BEAUTIFUL ITEMS!!...[IMHO: Perhaps, you could've hammered the "textured" surface over a softwood block, instead of a hard anvil...for an even better result ??...]
just a tip, non ferrous metals such as copper, brass etc are quench annealed. so you heat them to the point they just start to glow then they soften up to continue working. do this periodically to prevent it from work hardening and tearing. steel on the other hand hardens when quenched (to varying degrees depending on carbon content) love your work, and always enjoy watching your videos!
I like your creativity. Note: To anneal copper, you must get it red hot. When you quench it, that does not harden the metal. Hammering and working the metal hardens it. When you anneal copper, it gets VERY soft.
As you mentioned, copper easily work hardens under the blows of a hammer. Non-ferrous metals anneal differently from ferrous ones. Like you said you need to anneal it by heating up the work piece But then quenching it in a mild acidic water solution. Vinegar and water works good for someone who only does this occasionally, Properly annealed in this way, it can become as soft as "butta" (figuratively speaking) and will allow you to shape it into a cylinder almost entirely by hand.
1 Lime, 2 oz Vodka, pour over ice in a copper mug, top off with Ginger Beer, garnish with mint. I love these and make them fairly often for the wife and I.
thx Stuart, just found it. Ive always wore my belt to the back, never made sense having around front especially bending over and such. Samurai ill be the first on the list to buy one of these. Best idea ive seen in years!
We've been drinking Moscow Mule's for years and love them (in Australia). We also squeeze about half a lime into each one. Enjoy. PS - I wouldn't drink them from a copper vessel either ...just saying. If you insist though, don't use solder (70% lead)
I'd suggest for the handle to use that as part of the seam. Solder it together with the seam from both sides, then place in some rivets, it'd look fantastic
The best mug is the Yeti lowball as my Yeti keeps the ice frozen and not melted like those copper mugs which transfer heat quickly and dilute the drink
The use of copper on low acid foods can cause copper poisoning due to the acidity leaching off the copper. I am not exactly sure, but I doubt that a drink that is obviously consumed very quickly once prepared would leach the amount capable of getting someone sick could happen 3.5mg/L. Additional information is welcome, I think the use limitation in food service is mostly for backflow prevention of carbinators for soda machines and prolonged storage of food in a copper container. Ty for the video Samurai.
The Moscow mule is popularly served in a copper mug. Public health advisories recommend the mugs be plated with nickel or stainless steel on the inside and the lip.
Good to see you back in a good mood, Jesse! At the end of the gate video you looked soooo bummed! Also loved that there was good balanse of you talking and timelapses in this one, some of the later videos has been lacking in the samurai banter dept. ;) keep it up! oh, and AWESOME CUP!
You can more effectively anneal copper by heating to dull red and quick quench in plain water. Yes, sir. Opposite of most ferrous metals and aluminum as well. Aluminum at very low temps with a sooty flame just to see where you've been then air cool. Prob TMI lol
Maybe try 5 or 6 copper rivets down the seam of the cup. Might give a nice feature along with the peened surface. Love the cups. Inspiration to make my own!
1.5 ounces of Tito's vodka, Fever Tree ginger beer and half of a freshly squeezed lime in an ice filled copper mug. Delicious! Just don't forget the lime juice as it is the bonding agent for the drink! //Break// Like the new videography.
Just recently find,water and cofee,best from copper cups. So I find ýou. Thks for video. I do not have too many tools,just garage staf,but I will try to make a cofee pot,cup.
The hole in the anvil is called a hardy hole because it was traditionally cut into the anvil with a square-chisel called a hardy chisel. (I don't know if that's because it was stout or because the inventor was named Hardy.) A tool that fits into the hardy hole is called, unsurprisingly, a hardy tool.
Samurai, you should stamp your logo onto the bottom of the cup before you attach it. or something etched...... or something cool. The cup is a cool idea. I like it allllot.
My 2 cent advice: use the type of solder or brazing that is the healthiest. No need to poison yourself. Lots of heavy medal poison in some of that stuff. I would even check on copper.
Thanks for the nice videos Samurai. I don't want to be negative but? When cooking with copper sauce pans they are coated with tin. This is to stop reactions with acidic foods etc. Aluminum has the same problem, except it is a Neurotoxin. And should not be used in cooking food. Again many thanks for the great videos. And Greetings from Africa.
Holy shit! There are some wingers on here. Talk about trolls..... Samurai, happy to see your still going and we love your channel, everyone needs a vacation, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to have a good vacation.
samurai, have you ever tried MAP gas for annealing. I first used it when I worked in the Rockies because propane would freeze solid at our temps (-40 F). It is wicked awesome....burns way hotter thus takes less time for whatever task you are trying (which is even more awesome when it is -40!!). Comes in a yellow bottle and costs more but lasts way longer due to the time needed thing.
What kills me is that I could go to this guys wood shop and do nothing that he does but on the other hand he could come to my house with the modest amount of tools I have and make a million dollar figure out of wood etc.........It's amazing the skills this guy has with this and the other master pieces he creates!
I watch a lot of your videos. I love your work. I also work with copper. I did not know if you realize or not, but when you make a Moscow mule in a copper vessel, there is a chemical reaction going on between the copper and the large amount of lime juice that goes into a mule. The lime juice is stripping a microscopic layer of copper from the mug, which becomes a very toxic copper acetate suspension. Copper is banned in the packaging of alcohol or other liquids with a PH lower than (6.0). for that very reason. I know that they are the rage and everybody loves them....but I can't get past the chemistry. Your mug is beautiful.....use it for everything but alcohol, please. Copper is a perfectly safe material for everything food related....with a PH above 6. Copper pot for chicken soup....YES.....Copper pot for Tomato sauce....Not a good idea. Keep up the great work and be safe.
Have you thought about just making the cup portion out of just one solid piece of copper? Like, using a large round piece of copper, and deforming it around an inner circle and working your way outwards (towards the top of the mug). Would that work?
a tip for next time you work with copper. heat it up and then clensh it in water. unlike normal metal it dosent becaome hard and britle it becomes soft and easy to work with.
Think on the succeeding videos the background music isn't louder than the commentary? I'm constantly turning the volume up and down to compensate for the different volumes in the video. Thanks.
dude moscow mule is the boooooomb! Ive had a local "variante" in a small town in germany, but instead of vodka you put gin, and you add cucumber pieces in it
I really enjoy watching this process. I want to work with copper. I'm just wondering about the soldering is there copper solder? Is the solder safe for foods and liquids? I just don't want to have something that is toxic.
Samurai, just got to say your wood work is very Zen. Your vest/rig is awesome, ,,, can I ask you where did you get it.the addition to your house,,, AMAZING
Nice little project I was going to to say about the copper poisoning but everyone has said but it's good to see you cracking a few joke again man looks like that holiday did you some good keep up the great work look forward to see more 🖒👊
Are you planning to finish the windows in that area of the workshop? Sorry to bring up yet another thing in your list of "shit to do" but.. would make that area look really nice!
Just finished catching up on a week's worth of @alecsteele before watching this and kept thinking to myself, "just throw it in the forge!" Lol. Keep doing this kind of stuff and you'll have a case for the power hammer. Nice mug though, cheers!
My 13 year old son watched this video I figured out a few weeks ago. Yesterday came into his room at 1 am or so after hearing a loud bang from his room. He was wasted drunk with a bottle of vodka and some copper sheet and some tin snips and a torch trying to make mug. Definitely was one of my most proud moments of him its awesome watching your kids grow up into self sustaining adults. Thank you so much for this video
Your ability to visualize and then create is incredible. Thanks for sharing.
Samurai, The process for annealing copper or non-ferrous metals is bringing it to cherry red and quench quickly. The process for annealing Ferris metals is bring it to cherry red and allow to cool slowly.
Hey Samurai. Love your channel and projects. While you may never need this knowledge as you may not do more copper projects, may I tender some advice? You'll find it much easier to work with copper (particularly if you're hammering on it) if you anneal it periodically. Copper work-hardens quickly (gets harder and stiffer) and becomes more difficult to shape as you work it. With a simple propane torch you can heat it to a gentle glowing orange color, then let it cool or dip it in water. It will be much more malleable for a while. As it hardens up again, anneal it again. It does blacken but can be easily polished off, or, if you're going to work with copper regularly, buy or make some "pickle" solution which will remove the oxidation from annealing. Keep the vids coming!
LOL. Just turned the vid back on and there you are annealing it. Goodonya.
WOW!!!! GREAT PROJECT, AND DEMONSTRATION! THANKS FOR "SHARING" THIS FABRICATION OF THESE BEAUTIFUL ITEMS!!...[IMHO: Perhaps, you could've hammered the "textured" surface over a softwood block, instead of a hard anvil...for an even better result ??...]
The samurai Carpenter learns metalsmithing. Mixed media will only make you a stronger Craftsman. keep it up.
just a tip, non ferrous metals such as copper, brass etc are quench annealed. so you heat them to the point they just start to glow then they soften up to continue working. do this periodically to prevent it from work hardening and tearing. steel on the other hand hardens when quenched (to varying degrees depending on carbon content)
love your work, and always enjoy watching your videos!
I like your creativity. Note: To anneal copper, you must get it red hot. When you quench it, that does not harden the metal. Hammering and working the metal hardens it. When you anneal copper, it gets VERY soft.
If there's a fear of drinking out of copper, just line the inside of it with a thin coat of food safe epoxy resin... Also help to water seal it.
As you mentioned, copper easily work hardens under the blows of a hammer. Non-ferrous metals anneal differently from ferrous ones. Like you said you need to anneal it by heating up the work piece But then quenching it in a mild acidic water solution. Vinegar and water works good for someone who only does this occasionally, Properly annealed in this way, it can become as soft as "butta" (figuratively speaking) and will allow you to shape it into a cylinder almost entirely by hand.
You should try a dark and stormy. Basically a mule with dark rum instead of vodka. Delicious.
1 Lime, 2 oz Vodka, pour over ice in a copper mug, top off with Ginger Beer, garnish with mint. I love these and make them fairly often for the wife and I.
thx Stuart, just found it. Ive always wore my belt to the back, never made sense having around front especially bending over and such. Samurai ill be the first on the list to buy one of these. Best idea ive seen in years!
Samurai is back!! Glad you a good vacation, I have definitely missed the videos though. Glad your back on
Hope you had a good holiday and you are feeling recharged. Can not wait for tomorrow and see this part two.
You look a little better SC, good to have you back. No one does you, like you. Peace
Glad to see you're back, another great video
Wranglerstar go to bed wranglerstar....it's late
I really like the music selection and how it fits the "phase of your video"
We've been drinking Moscow Mule's for years and love them (in Australia). We also squeeze about half a lime into each one. Enjoy. PS - I wouldn't drink them from a copper vessel either ...just saying. If you insist though, don't use solder (70% lead)
Had my first Moscow Mule this summer too! Huge fan. Was looking for copper cups, but now feeling inspired to create one, thanks Samurai!
I'd suggest for the handle to use that as part of the seam. Solder it together with the seam from both sides, then place in some rivets, it'd look fantastic
It was good to see a relaxed Samurai being his boyish self :-)
The best mug is the Yeti lowball as my Yeti keeps the ice frozen and not melted like those copper mugs which transfer heat quickly and dilute the drink
Moscow mules are indeed tasty. Now I want to make a copper mug! Glad you had a great vacation!
heat the whole thing ting to cherry red and quench it in water copper works the exact opposite of steal and will soften
True
Love this one! keep it up!
Copper when heated and cooled quickly will anneal unlike iron or steel which get harder.Check it out.
The use of copper on low acid foods can cause copper poisoning due to the acidity leaching off the copper. I am not exactly sure, but I doubt that a drink that is obviously consumed very quickly once prepared would leach the amount capable of getting someone sick could happen 3.5mg/L. Additional information is welcome, I think the use limitation in food service is mostly for backflow prevention of carbinators for soda machines and prolonged storage of food in a copper container. Ty for the video Samurai.
try the kentucky mule - same recipe as moscow, just bourbon in lieu of vodka, with a sprig of fresh mint
The Moscow mule is popularly served in a copper mug. Public health advisories recommend the mugs be plated with nickel or stainless steel on the inside and the lip.
Good to see you back in a good mood, Jesse! At the end of the gate video you looked soooo bummed! Also loved that there was good balanse of you talking and timelapses in this one, some of the later videos has been lacking in the samurai banter dept. ;) keep it up! oh, and AWESOME CUP!
You can more effectively anneal copper by heating to dull red and quick quench in plain water. Yes, sir. Opposite of most ferrous metals and aluminum as well. Aluminum at very low temps with a sooty flame just to see where you've been then air cool. Prob TMI lol
Use lead free solder or silver solder for anything used for food or drink.
Maybe try 5 or 6 copper rivets down the seam of the cup. Might give a nice feature along with the peened surface. Love the cups. Inspiration to make my own!
1.5 ounces of Tito's vodka, Fever Tree ginger beer and half of a freshly squeezed lime in an ice filled copper mug. Delicious! Just don't forget the lime juice as it is the bonding agent for the drink! //Break// Like the new videography.
Just recently find,water and cofee,best from copper cups.
So I find ýou. Thks for video.
I do not have too many tools,just garage staf,but I will try to make a cofee pot,cup.
The hole in the anvil is called a hardy hole because it was traditionally cut into the anvil with a square-chisel called a hardy chisel. (I don't know if that's because it was stout or because the inventor was named Hardy.) A tool that fits into the hardy hole is called, unsurprisingly, a hardy tool.
Love to see you trying new things, keeps me motivated to do the same...thank you.
I liked the trick of clamping the hammer in the vise.
Copper doesn't harden by heating and quenching the way steel does. It has the exact opposite effect. heat it and water quench to soften it!
Great video, I'm excited to watch part 2.
copper anneals by quenching unlike steel that hardens
Samurai, you should stamp your logo onto the bottom of the cup before you attach it. or something etched...... or something cool. The cup is a cool idea. I like it allllot.
My 2 cent advice: use the type of solder or brazing that is the healthiest. No need to poison yourself. Lots of heavy medal poison in some of that stuff. I would even check on copper.
Thanks for the nice videos Samurai. I don't want to be negative but? When cooking with copper sauce pans they are coated with tin. This is to stop reactions with acidic foods etc. Aluminum has the same problem, except it is a Neurotoxin. And should not be used in cooking food. Again many thanks for the great videos. And Greetings from Africa.
Holy shit! There are some wingers on here.
Talk about trolls.....
Samurai, happy to see your still going and we love your channel, everyone needs a vacation, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to have a good vacation.
What you can do is make your tube, then solder it onto a flat sheet of copper for the bottom, then cut it out and file for finish
samurai, have you ever tried MAP gas for annealing. I first used it when I worked in the Rockies because propane would freeze solid at our temps (-40 F). It is wicked awesome....burns way hotter thus takes less time for whatever task you are trying (which is even more awesome when it is -40!!). Comes in a yellow bottle and costs more but lasts way longer due to the time needed thing.
Also you should make a sweet wooden holder for the cup with a jointed handle!!
you should think about putting tool wall/box next to your vac system. Would look nice then a plank of wood. :)
Water quench the hot copper will make it much softer.
What kills me is that I could go to this guys wood shop and do nothing that he does but on the other hand he could come to my house with the modest amount of tools I have and make a million dollar figure out of wood etc.........It's amazing the skills this guy has with this and the other master pieces he creates!
Nice video.
I would have closed the ends of the sheet with a fold.
I would also close the floor plate with a fold.
I watch a lot of your videos. I love your work.
I also work with copper. I did not know if you realize or not, but when you make a Moscow mule in a copper vessel, there is a chemical reaction going on between the copper and the large amount of lime juice that goes into a mule. The lime juice is stripping a microscopic layer of copper from the mug, which becomes a very toxic copper acetate suspension.
Copper is banned in the packaging of alcohol or other liquids with a PH lower than (6.0). for that very reason.
I know that they are the rage and everybody loves them....but I can't get past the chemistry.
Your mug is beautiful.....use it for everything but alcohol, please.
Copper is a perfectly safe material for everything food related....with a PH above 6.
Copper pot for chicken soup....YES.....Copper pot for Tomato sauce....Not a good idea.
Keep up the great work and be safe.
There are racheting pipe grips that you can buy that would probably help you make those cups!
John Rodack, how about hose clamps, or is that what you're saying?
Creed Barnett nah but that's a good idea too! And probably cheaper
Nice job! I would think if a samurai was to consume alcohol it would be saki or rice wine.....but a Moscow mule is good too😏
Hey samurai do ur self a favor when done with the cup clean it with Hines 57 ketchup safe clean after rinsing and no harsh chemicals
^this
It's the vinegar content, it cleans off all the garbage.
FDA is saying ph lvl of the drink no good for copper
Plus the acidity of the ketchup will clean it look up moonshine and how to clean copper pot stills the backwoods way
Just remember acidic juices has a tendency to break down copper metals. Pace your self or you will suffer from copper poisoning.
Have you thought about just making the cup portion out of just one solid piece of copper? Like, using a large round piece of copper, and deforming it around an inner circle and working your way outwards (towards the top of the mug). Would that work?
do you think i could do the same with brass? Not for drinking though
looks good for winging
Does anyone know where he gets his music?
a tip for next time you work with copper. heat it up and then clensh it in water. unlike normal metal it dosent becaome hard and britle it becomes soft and easy to work with.
YouKnow but it also stays soft
Jewlers use copper tweezers to remove stuff from acid baths 'cause the copper doesn't react with the acid.
Just more crap to worry about.
Think on the succeeding videos the background music isn't louder than the commentary? I'm constantly turning the volume up and down to compensate for the different volumes in the video. Thanks.
dude moscow mule is the boooooomb! Ive had a local "variante" in a small town in germany, but instead of vodka you put gin, and you add cucumber pieces in it
Hopefully you'll put a glass inside, as copper creates a poison green surface when contacts fluids (water) ;)
Well done sir! Cheers!
I really enjoy watching this process. I want to work with copper. I'm just wondering about the soldering is there copper solder? Is the solder safe for foods and liquids? I just don't want to have something that is toxic.
Lovely stuff, another talent!
Samurai, just got to say your wood work is very Zen. Your vest/rig is awesome, ,,, can I ask you where did you get it.the addition to your house,,, AMAZING
Jenny Garcia made the tool best himself - there's a video
At 4:57 becomes clear you guys need the metric system... ;)
Sorry a bit off topic what kind of rifle do you have hanging up
I really liked the editing on this video -- the little flash-forwards of things you were talking about.
What type of Copper Sheet is it? What are the compositions?
hose clamps may make it a bit easier
Great mug!
Nice. And cool new video and editing work.
how thick isthe bench top? looks about 4-6"
yeah, can definitely see the beer and food.
What us the thickness of your copper plate using
where do you get that copper sheet?
Is work hardening/annealing being considered?
Where's part 2 at?!? Can't wait to see it!!
wow. love the new visual.
do u need to treat the copper cup in some way?
Have a lathe?
Nice little project I was going to to say about the copper poisoning but everyone has said but it's good to see you cracking a few joke again man looks like that holiday did you some good keep up the great work look forward to see more 🖒👊
Are you planning to finish the windows in that area of the workshop? Sorry to bring up yet another thing in your list of "shit to do" but.. would make that area look really nice!
Mug looks great, can you explain how you fitted the top rim together a bit more ?
Awesome idea!! I drinking out of one now!
Cool project!
Just finished catching up on a week's worth of @alecsteele before watching this and kept thinking to myself, "just throw it in the forge!" Lol. Keep doing this kind of stuff and you'll have a case for the power hammer. Nice mug though, cheers!
noticed the dewalt tstak in the background have you treated yourself
When you quench copper it becomes softer. Only iron or ferrous metals get hard.
Since you have a lathe, you could try metal spinning a mug.
Whats that music at the end called
Hell yeah! Thank you for doing this
What were you hammering against at 8 minutes?
Alexander Dickie a hammer
Waiting for part 2
When working with copper, the more you hit it the harder it will become. If you want to anneal it heat and quench
Also copper is good for leeching methanol out if ethanol which is why copper is the go to material in distillation of alcohol.