With the A7IV and breathing compensation on, my video was bouncing in and out on zoom. I had to turn off breathing compensation, but I had it set by default on my settings. Great lens! I love carrying it with the Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8.
This seems to be a really great lens to pair with the A7C. I could see putting this on the A7C and just not really ever taking it off. Great for gimbal work between the weight and ability to externally control the zoom, also one of very few zoom lenses that has an aperture ring - which makes up for the lack of a front dial on the A7C. Parfocal, minimal focus breathing, so great for video. And an internal zoom, so it shouldn't get as dirty. The main complaint is going to be that it's an F4. But I think that's a great tradeoff. This lens would be a lot bigger, heavier, and more expensive if it was a 2.8 or faster.
I don't own a sony camera, I have no intention to get one of this lens, I don't even understand much about full frame world, but I still love watching your videos man. The kind of break down you do is unique
I have the 20mm 1.8G, and for vlogging and travel videos I still think I'll keep that. I'm using clear image zoom that literally makes this a 30mm lens, and I don't need wider than 20mm. The 1.8 is too good to let go, close focusing distance and sharpness is also better. But it's definitely a good step in the right direction, power zoom is an awesome technology.
As soon as Sony catches up on a great lineup for great PZ lenses, the broadcast world will probably start adopting smaller bodies like the FX3. Our production company has already been using FX3s, but the lenses were always an issue in the broadcast world.
How's the battery life on that thing? I've been curious to use it for our corporate stuff as we travel a lot and that form-factor is so small. But we do interviews and I don't want to be swapping out battery every 10-15 minutes.
@@AlexJenkins I've done a full 1hr show on the A7S3 on 1080p, AF on, IS off, screen brightness at -2 i believe and battery life went from 90% to 25% aprox. It's not the exact same camera but a close comparison
I can get 1.5 hours of battery life continuous recording. Battery swap out is less than 30 seconds. Turing on things like wifi or IBIS will drain the battery faster, so if you turn on airplane mode + decrease screen brightness + turn of IBIS, you get a nice chunk of battery life.
Looks like a nice lens for gimbal work where you could control zoom from the gimbal and internal zoom. It definitely lacks the magic of your normal 35mm shot though! Thanks for the review Gerald, great as always.
As a FX6 user, the release of another 16-35 without OSS (like the C lens) is not great. Even though I want the PZ and better optics, issues with producing shaky handheld video is worse. Looks like I'll be keeping the Zeiss for now (and using Clear Image Zoom where required after getting a manual framing from the zoom ring).
Wow the thing’s lighter than the 20mm 1.8, that’s insane. Also how it’s all internal zoom and it’s powered was also unexpected for me. I can imagine this lens being very popular, I’m sold.
HAHAHA at around 5:50 his masterfully placed jab at Sony's lack of focus breathing compensation for the FX3. Brilliantly done, I could could hear the frustration in your voice.
I think both parfocality and focus breathe is compensated by wire because the lens controls both zoom and focus by wire. I also think that this is the key for being so compact. However the motors and electronics need room. More that F4 may increase the diameter beyond practicality?
Damn you Sony ! This looks like a great lens for gimbal work, was shooting a wedding a few weeks ago with the GM version and my arms certainly knew about it by the end!
Go to see Sony go to the direction makes their new lens lighter still has great build and feature. I am waiting for other f2.8 zoom lens to be updated.
Interesting G lens for gimbal work as the zoom won’t affect the balance, great engineering from Sony. Would love to see a fast f/2.8 G Master version coming.
I hope they come out with a replacement for the FE-PZ 28-135 F4 G with similar features. You can really feel the age of that lens. The autofocus isn't the best, it isn't very parfocal and it has noticeable focus breathing. Additionally you can't crash-zoom with it as the motors are too slow.
Gotta say, this is a nice addition for gimbal and drone users. But, I was hoping for a 16-35 with OSS to replace the Zeiss. I wonder if focus breathing compensation is coming all these new lightweight lenses, and for the A7SIII/FX3.
Thx for reviewing this, i 've been looking for this lens review! looks a good addition for those who are looking for 16-35mm... so light and pretty sharp!
I asked Sony awhile back about zoom resetting on power off for a different PZ lens. They said it wasn't possible to change that. Huge oversight IMO, and should be fixable in firmware.
Awesome review as always! I'll definitely be interested when they come out with a longer PZ lens. Also glad to see and hear the MKH50 instead of a 416... not sure why shotguns became so popular on youtube
Nice Malkovich reference! Looks like a great lens, good to see Sony can address focus breathing, and adapt their focus technology for a zoom function. That said, the Zeiss was my first FE lens and I was never disappointed with it. I did ultimately upgrade to the GM version for more flexibility in low light.
That is useful to know! Power zoom, not extending, great, even for steadycam. Given how short it is, I'm not too worried about OSS. But at this point, having the 24mm GM and planning to buy the 14mm GM, I'd probably get more use out of Sony's 24-105mm with the OSS for video...?
It's interesting that both of these lenses are competing in the same space, and that is 16-35mm lenses geared for video. The Zeiss I think still holds a place there. Although Gerald doesn't do a lot of work requiring OSS, if you're looking for an all day lens for shooting urban environments AND you're specifically a gimbal operator - then that OSS is a huge deal to help get rid of motor and hand micro jitters - getting you close to perfectly smooth movement. The big downside of the Zeiss, especially for gimbals, is that it zooms externally and is heavier than the Sony. The Sony on the other hand is also for video operators primarily, but it seems to be more focused on people that would be shooting on the lens traditionally (on sticks or handheld). With the obvious points of power zoom and being parfocal being its major advantages for that style of shooting. Its major downside is the lack of OSS (and I'm also personally not a fan of its out of focus rendering [boke]). I'd probably buy the lens based on those use cases above first. The image quality difference is negligible and the price at that level is negligible as well (although $150 isn't nothing). The neutral category for both is about what lenses you normally use. Zeiss is well known for its T* coating. If you like the Zeiss look and/or want to pair your lenses to look the same across focal lengths then buying the Zeiss is a no brainer. Let's say as an example you're shooting all on Zeiss Batis, and you want a wide-angle zoom, this is the obvious choice. And the same is true of the Sony. Sony has been making more first party lenses to fill in the gaps. So if you wanted to match all of your Sony glass more closely then that's another check mark in Sony's column for you.
Exactly... Lack of OSS is a deal breaker for me, as for a filmmaker focussed on filming skiing, running, biking etc on gimbals, following the athletes. Even if the new lens is a bit sharper and PZ woul be nice in some special moments, no thank you. For gimbal use, the OSS is HUGE difference, alsocompared to 16-35 F2,8 GM. Zeis is noticeably more stable in the same type of work.
@@andresawenko Gimbals don't correct for horizontal or vertical translation. So no matter how good your gimbal is those movements will ALWAYS be in your footage without stabilization. IBIS helps, but also having optical stabilization is certainly better.
Could always do what Brandon Li did with his A74 and 28mm on a M3 run it through catalyst browse on a 4-5% stabalisation setting. He got fantastic clips.
What a pity for me! The lack of OSS is a absolute deal breaker for me, as for a filmmaker focussed on extreme filming of skiing, running, biking etc on gimbals, following the athletes in high speed. There any part of the stabilization process if important and makes a difference! Even if the new 16-35 lens is a bit sharper and PZ woul be nice in some special moments, no, I am sorry. For gimbal use, the OSS makes HUGE difference, also compared to 16-35 F2,8 GM. Zeis is noticeably more stable in the same type of work than GM. I really hope for new version on 24-105 F4, same sharpness or sharper, with much better OSS. If it also comes without OSS, no, thank you...
What body/camera are you filming with? Between IBIS/gimbals and such a wide focal length, OSS is pretty much a non issues these days and would definitely take the smaller/lighter lens. FX6/9 with Catalyst is a painful extra step but also provides pretty amazing results.
I originally had the same concerns, but then did the math. Sony's normal IBIS is a joke, but Active Stabilization is pretty effective. With the approximate 15% crop you still get a zoom range of 18.5mm x 40.25mm, which actually works very well for me. And you're still getting about 28mp of resolution.
great review. i saw a used zeiss for around $600. however, there was something special about the sony pz, so i bought that one instead for several hundred more. it was love at first sight lol.
Got the older one used recently for under $600. Think I’ll be staying with that and not sure I would choose this new one given the choice because it just seems odd.
I have the 16-35mm gm but the size of it is a problem for handheld video and overall weight when traveling long days hikes. Do you think this new lens is way too inferior in quality or should be just fine for personal photos and few videos? Thanks
@@lucaslonghurst hi man i ve an occasion to buy it! i can t really decide with the new sigma 16-28... I do lot of video for entreprises and gimbal work. i own lot of lenses (i use my 20mm 1.8 a lot)... The power zoom+rsc2 and the compact size would be versatile. DO YOU ADVISE ME THIS LENSE? thanx a lot !
@@seblx Yes! If you don't need 2.8 and you're using it on a gimbal then it would be perfect. The balance point doesn't move with the power zoom and it's super sharp and light. Having some extra range at 35mm is nice and if you need bokeh you have your 20mm 1.8. I'd say go for the Sony. It will also hold value better than Sigma although they do make great lenses as well.
Thank you Gerald for this review, don't think we really like the "by wire" choice on the zoom, but this lens is really lighter than its older sister, which is always a plus when travelling. Question regarding the focus breathing (sorry if this is off-topic from this video, but when you mentioned it at 5:58 it came up): we recently watched Jungle Cruise (with The Rock) and we noticed a very present focus breathing in some scenes. Do you think that's because they used specific lens or they add it in post (is it possible?) for some reason?
2:15 I have this lens and the focal length does not reset to 16mm when I turn the camera off. Maybe that was just a pre-production quirk, or maybe mine is bugged out. Can someone else confirm?
Hi, did you notice any focus jump/focus pulsating when you close up to the subject with autofocus on with this lens (PZ 16-35mm F4 G)? Mine seems to have the issue when I use gimbal to go in closer to the subject's face, it seems to have that zoom pump, but it is actually the focus going error for a very fast milliseconds (or looks like focusing the back of the subject in mine), and then slowly focus back to the subject, and it is quite frequent. Or sometimes it would just make that whole scene to have the shaking stutter effect for a millisecond, I had even set the focus shift sensitivity to the lowest, and it still does the same thing. For the body I'm currently using A7S3. Attached here is an example (not my video, but a clip I manage to found online which has the same issue as mine), look at the table at the bottom area and you'll understand what I meant: th-cam.com/video/DqZnYqg3zRA/w-d-xo.html Much appreciated for your replies, thank you.
I am using this as well. A great lens voor photo and video. Later I bought the 24mm GM but hardly use it because this thing is more versatile and I don’t see much of a difference. Usability of F1.4 is only for specific cases.
@@wvansluisveld3011 I debated and purchased the Sony 20 1.8 for indoor w/out flash gimbal work. The 20 should be a GM, it’s got the same build quality. Also have a 6400 with Laowa 9 that works extremely well.
@@keystonebrotherb in hindsight that would probably have been a better purchase. My 24mm also sometimes generates an unpleasant sound in videos recorded using the internal mic. Not sure why. I had it checked and they concluded it operates as it should. The focus breathing is very prominent as well. The main reason why I got the 24mm is because I was able to obtain it for a good price and for general purpose I like 24mm better. I also have 35mm F1.8 which is great, but it is not my preferred focal length.
Does the zoom reset to 16mm when the camera wakes up from standby? I usually never turn the camera off during shooting, so keeping the zoom position on wakeup is a must.
So I do have the Zeiss, had it about 4 years. All sorts of wear and tear. Looking to upgrade but if this sent much of an upgrade, What should I be looking at getting? I shoot it for photos and video for real estate
Gerald, keep the artificial flare test. Veiling flare resistance is critical in interior photography. I really hope the new 16-35 GM 2 will outperform other Sony 16-35s in flare resistance department
It's not a GM. It's a G lens, I'm in two minds I had the old GM in my basket and than they drop this. This one makes I think could be the one as I do alot of gimbal work
I want get 16-35gm but it doesn’t have OSS. Do I need OSS if no how to setup my A7mk1 with no ibis for landscape and video please give me a recommendation? I will get a A7iv after I get the lens.
Gerald do you know anything about an upcoming 16-35 G Master? I’m about to purchase the current version but I’m not sure if it’s a bad idea in 2023? May I know your thought on this please!? Thanks
is there a list of bodies that are compatible with the 'zoom speed' function? i understand you can program the rocker for 5 steps of speed but it's only available on 'compatible bodies'... (i have a7iii)
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Literally the only video I had planned on watching with the release of this lens
I can finally do the power zoom sitcom intro for my channel ive always wanted
Zooms are coming back
Finally, a compact PZ for full frame 🙌🏻
Can't wait to get this for my FX3
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
l hope Sony updates their 24-105mm f4 with this power zoom functionality. Thanks for the review!
I could listen to Gerald talk all day.
Parfocal is pretty sweet. Almost as sweet as that built in rail gun 👍
everyone needs a rail gun.
will you be using this lens?
With the A7IV and breathing compensation on, my video was bouncing in and out on zoom. I had to turn off breathing compensation, but I had it set by default on my settings. Great lens! I love carrying it with the Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8.
Hi quick question 🙋🏻♂️ I read you have this lens. Does it go back to 16mm every tjme you turn the camera off?
@@armando.visuals After doing a quick test, mine remembers the last mm set.
@@jinny7819 thank you!
You have the BEST, most informative, and non-biased review videos ever. Thank you, thank you, thank youu🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The new 16-35 F4 looks great. Thanks for all the detailed info. I like how you're a bit more relaxed and calm on this episode 😀
I liked how casual this evaluation felt. it was nice to see the studio there.
This seems to be a really great lens to pair with the A7C. I could see putting this on the A7C and just not really ever taking it off. Great for gimbal work between the weight and ability to externally control the zoom, also one of very few zoom lenses that has an aperture ring - which makes up for the lack of a front dial on the A7C. Parfocal, minimal focus breathing, so great for video. And an internal zoom, so it shouldn't get as dirty.
The main complaint is going to be that it's an F4. But I think that's a great tradeoff. This lens would be a lot bigger, heavier, and more expensive if it was a 2.8 or faster.
I don't own a sony camera, I have no intention to get one of this lens, I don't even understand much about full frame world, but I still love watching your videos man. The kind of break down you do is unique
I have the 20mm 1.8G, and for vlogging and travel videos I still think I'll keep that. I'm using clear image zoom that literally makes this a 30mm lens, and I don't need wider than 20mm. The 1.8 is too good to let go, close focusing distance and sharpness is also better. But it's definitely a good step in the right direction, power zoom is an awesome technology.
The same bro. I can t leave the 1.8...
As soon as Sony catches up on a great lineup for great PZ lenses, the broadcast world will probably start adopting smaller bodies like the FX3. Our production company has already been using FX3s, but the lenses were always an issue in the broadcast world.
How's the battery life on that thing? I've been curious to use it for our corporate stuff as we travel a lot and that form-factor is so small. But we do interviews and I don't want to be swapping out battery every 10-15 minutes.
@@AlexJenkins I've done a full 1hr show on the A7S3 on 1080p, AF on, IS off, screen brightness at -2 i believe and battery life went from 90% to 25% aprox. It's not the exact same camera but a close comparison
@@AlexJenkins we never use the internal battery usually. Either a V mount rig with a dummy or some kind of USB C PD setup. With PD it lasts 3 hours.
I can get 1.5 hours of battery life continuous recording. Battery swap out is less than 30 seconds. Turing on things like wifi or IBIS will drain the battery faster, so if you turn on airplane mode + decrease screen brightness + turn of IBIS, you get a nice chunk of battery life.
@@TonyDae thank you, those are great points to further improve already good battery life on a7S3/FX3
Looks like a nice lens for gimbal work where you could control zoom from the gimbal and internal zoom. It definitely lacks the magic of your normal 35mm shot though! Thanks for the review Gerald, great as always.
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
As a FX6 user, the release of another 16-35 without OSS (like the C lens) is not great. Even though I want the PZ and better optics, issues with producing shaky handheld video is worse. Looks like I'll be keeping the Zeiss for now (and using Clear Image Zoom where required after getting a manual framing from the zoom ring).
Thanks for the in-depth review Gerald. Help me in making my decision.
Appreciate it! :)
Appreciate the thorough review.
You didn't even know you needed one of these... but now you know you needed one of these
great to know that zoom resets to 16mm when powering off. Thanks Gerald for that, once again, great review.
Wow the thing’s lighter than the 20mm 1.8, that’s insane. Also how it’s all internal zoom and it’s powered was also unexpected for me. I can imagine this lens being very popular, I’m sold.
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
HAHAHA at around 5:50 his masterfully placed jab at Sony's lack of focus breathing compensation for the FX3. Brilliantly done, I could could hear the frustration in your voice.
Am trying this any time from now.
I think both parfocality and focus breathe is compensated by wire because the lens controls both zoom and focus by wire. I also think that this is the key for being so compact. However the motors and electronics need room. More that F4 may increase the diameter beyond practicality?
Damn you Sony ! This looks like a great lens for gimbal work, was shooting a wedding a few weeks ago with the GM version and my arms certainly knew about it by the end!
Hey, but that's a time saver, right? Now you get your gym time in WHILE working. You're just being effecient.
@@AlexJenkins you know I never thought about it like that, I am an efficiency god and I didn’t know it!
Great video Gerald! Hope you bring back the studio tours some day. Hope all is well with you and the family! 👍
Go to see Sony go to the direction makes their new lens lighter still has great build and feature. I am waiting for other f2.8 zoom lens to be updated.
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
Interesting G lens for gimbal work as the zoom won’t affect the balance, great engineering from Sony.
Would love to see a fast f/2.8 G Master version coming.
there is already! SONY FE C 16-35MM T3.1 G which uses the standard GM lens optics
Sony has an 18-105mm f.4 for APSC that is built the same. It came out 5 years ago
Good to see you having some fun!
I hope they come out with a replacement for the FE-PZ 28-135 F4 G with similar features. You can really feel the age of that lens. The autofocus isn't the best, it isn't very parfocal and it has noticeable focus breathing. Additionally you can't crash-zoom with it as the motors are too slow.
and the focus isn't linear. God damn terrible.
Gotta say, this is a nice addition for gimbal and drone users. But, I was hoping for a 16-35 with OSS to replace the Zeiss. I wonder if focus breathing compensation is coming all these new lightweight lenses, and for the A7SIII/FX3.
The FX6 getting it is proof there's no technical limitation. It makes no sense for Sony to have it in the a7IV and not in their other lineup.
seems like a really good lens for glide-cam use. no weight shifting
It has weight shifting. Elements are moving inside the body of the lens
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
@@tubeszub4156 But it should be very minor. Do you think it is still an issue with glidecam or similar products?
That zoom out shot is wild!
Thx for reviewing this, i 've been looking for this lens review! looks a good addition for those who are looking for 16-35mm... so light and pretty sharp!
A lens nobody asked for but everyone is going to want.
I didn't ask for it or want it, but I like hearing Gerald talk about it.
I would LOVE to see this in a f2.8 with a 67mm filter thread to match 20, 24 & 35mm G / GM lenses
I asked Sony awhile back about zoom resetting on power off for a different PZ lens. They said it wasn't possible to change that. Huge oversight IMO, and should be fixable in firmware.
I do think it is a turn off as well.
Looking forward the new 16-35 GM II
Waiting for the announcement of the GM 24-70 mk2 !!!
Gerald's pop in - pop out test is giving me big Paul Dano The Riddler vibes!!
3:32 "Railgun zoom system" sounds like some device from The Expanse 😃
Thanks for the shoutout to my good friend Zumbi Wihr.
Gerald DONE!!!!
Awesome review as always! I'll definitely be interested when they come out with a longer PZ lens. Also glad to see and hear the MKH50 instead of a 416... not sure why shotguns became so popular on youtube
Nice Malkovich reference! Looks like a great lens, good to see Sony can address focus breathing, and adapt their focus technology for a zoom function. That said, the Zeiss was my first FE lens and I was never disappointed with it. I did ultimately upgrade to the GM version for more flexibility in low light.
That is useful to know!
Power zoom, not extending, great, even for steadycam. Given how short it is, I'm not too worried about OSS.
But at this point, having the 24mm GM and planning to buy the 14mm GM, I'd probably get more use out of Sony's 24-105mm with the OSS for video...?
It would be nice to compare the 16-35mm PZ lens to the Sony 16-35mm Cine zoom T/3.1 which costs $ 5,500.
It's interesting that both of these lenses are competing in the same space, and that is 16-35mm lenses geared for video.
The Zeiss I think still holds a place there. Although Gerald doesn't do a lot of work requiring OSS, if you're looking for an all day lens for shooting urban environments AND you're specifically a gimbal operator - then that OSS is a huge deal to help get rid of motor and hand micro jitters - getting you close to perfectly smooth movement. The big downside of the Zeiss, especially for gimbals, is that it zooms externally and is heavier than the Sony.
The Sony on the other hand is also for video operators primarily, but it seems to be more focused on people that would be shooting on the lens traditionally (on sticks or handheld). With the obvious points of power zoom and being parfocal being its major advantages for that style of shooting. Its major downside is the lack of OSS (and I'm also personally not a fan of its out of focus rendering [boke]).
I'd probably buy the lens based on those use cases above first. The image quality difference is negligible and the price at that level is negligible as well (although $150 isn't nothing).
The neutral category for both is about what lenses you normally use. Zeiss is well known for its T* coating. If you like the Zeiss look and/or want to pair your lenses to look the same across focal lengths then buying the Zeiss is a no brainer. Let's say as an example you're shooting all on Zeiss Batis, and you want a wide-angle zoom, this is the obvious choice.
And the same is true of the Sony. Sony has been making more first party lenses to fill in the gaps. So if you wanted to match all of your Sony glass more closely then that's another check mark in Sony's column for you.
Exactly... Lack of OSS is a deal breaker for me, as for a filmmaker focussed on filming skiing, running, biking etc on gimbals, following the athletes. Even if the new lens is a bit sharper and PZ woul be nice in some special moments, no thank you. For gimbal use, the OSS is HUGE difference, alsocompared to 16-35 F2,8 GM. Zeis is noticeably more stable in the same type of work.
Shooting at 16mm with a gimbal should be fine without OSS. Otherwise get a better gimbal.
@@andresawenko Gimbals don't correct for horizontal or vertical translation. So no matter how good your gimbal is those movements will ALWAYS be in your footage without stabilization. IBIS helps, but also having optical stabilization is certainly better.
Could always do what Brandon Li did with his A74 and 28mm on a M3 run it through catalyst browse on a 4-5% stabalisation setting. He got fantastic clips.
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
Look's like perfect lens for zv-e10
Seems like a perfect fit for the new Sony FR7!
I’m pulling the trigger in this bad boy- 🙌🙌👊💥
What's the better purchase this or the 2.8 Gmaster?
My concern with the lack of OSS would be the IBIS system causing corner warping at the wide end.
That ending was very Goodfellas..
"eh, whatdoya want me to say? Buy the freakin' lens, don't buy the freakin' lens..."
One dog goes one way and the other goes the other way...
What a pity for me! The lack of OSS is a absolute deal breaker for me, as for a filmmaker focussed on extreme filming of skiing, running, biking etc on gimbals, following the athletes in high speed. There any part of the stabilization process if important and makes a difference! Even if the new 16-35 lens is a bit sharper and PZ woul be nice in some special moments, no, I am sorry. For gimbal use, the OSS makes HUGE difference, also compared to 16-35 F2,8 GM. Zeis is noticeably more stable in the same type of work than GM. I really hope for new version on 24-105 F4, same sharpness or sharper, with much better OSS. If it also comes without OSS, no, thank you...
Absolute unusable with this horrible HORRIBLE distortion. Why hasn't he mentioned that? th-cam.com/video/7hCtEGIBqR8/w-d-xo.html
What body/camera are you filming with? Between IBIS/gimbals and such a wide focal length, OSS is pretty much a non issues these days and would definitely take the smaller/lighter lens. FX6/9 with Catalyst is a painful extra step but also provides pretty amazing results.
Well good thing you have the choice.
I originally had the same concerns, but then did the math. Sony's normal IBIS is a joke, but Active Stabilization is pretty effective. With the approximate 15% crop you still get a zoom range of 18.5mm x 40.25mm, which actually works very well for me. And you're still getting about 28mp of resolution.
Your flare tests reminds me of the old saw: "What's the difference between lens flare and art?" :)
I’m loving the new and improved giving less fucks Gerald. Pretty great.
great review. i saw a used zeiss for around $600. however, there was something special about the sony pz, so i bought that one instead for several hundred more. it was love at first sight lol.
"Leever" for lever, has to be a Canadian pronunciation! 😂 so used to "lever"! Solid breakdown!
Got the older one used recently for under $600. Think I’ll be staying with that and not sure I would choose this new one given the choice because it just seems odd.
I have the 16-35mm gm but the size of it is a problem for handheld video and overall weight when traveling long days hikes. Do you think this new lens is way too inferior in quality or should be just fine for personal photos and few videos? Thanks
I have it and it’s great. Super sharp and light so it’s easy to carry all day. AF is super quick as well.
@@lucaslonghurst hi man
i ve an occasion to buy it!
i can t really decide with the new sigma 16-28...
I do lot of video for entreprises and gimbal work.
i own lot of lenses (i use my 20mm 1.8 a lot)...
The power zoom+rsc2 and the compact size would be versatile.
DO YOU ADVISE ME THIS LENSE?
thanx a lot !
@@seblx Yes! If you don't need 2.8 and you're using it on a gimbal then it would be perfect. The balance point doesn't move with the power zoom and it's super sharp and light. Having some extra range at 35mm is nice and if you need bokeh you have your 20mm 1.8. I'd say go for the Sony. It will also hold value better than Sigma although they do make great lenses as well.
These bokeh circles at 11:24 look like: 😍
i wonder how it will look in super 35 on the a1
Great review!
Thank you Gerald for this review, don't think we really like the "by wire" choice on the zoom, but this lens is really lighter than its older sister, which is always a plus when travelling.
Question regarding the focus breathing (sorry if this is off-topic from this video, but when you mentioned it at 5:58 it came up): we recently watched Jungle Cruise (with The Rock) and we noticed a very present focus breathing in some scenes. Do you think that's because they used specific lens or they add it in post (is it possible?) for some reason?
2:15 I have this lens and the focal length does not reset to 16mm when I turn the camera off. Maybe that was just a pre-production quirk, or maybe mine is bugged out. Can someone else confirm?
17:00 thank you for comparing to the zeiss! I got mine used for $500, so yeah, I'd need HUGE improvements to make it worth trading up lol
It would be so cool for video if you could program it to go through different zoom levels with the press of a button
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I love post-consummerust Jared, buy it or don't, whatever, I'm gonna review them.
Interesting! Nice video. ✌️
i like the new zoom function
Can't wait to check it out! :D Are you using DaVinci these days for editing, or sticking with Premiere?
This would've been perfect for my A7C if it had OSS on it. Guess I will be staying with my Zeiss for now
My concerns as well, but when used with Active Stabilization you can have very good IBIS and an 18.5mm x 40.25mm focal range.
My FX3 will like this.
“And they’re about.. maybe a little less than 180 degrees”
Me being bad at math: Gerald, that’s MORE than half a circle 🤦♂️
Hi, did you notice any focus jump/focus pulsating when you close up to the subject with autofocus on with this lens (PZ 16-35mm F4 G)?
Mine seems to have the issue when I use gimbal to go in closer to the subject's face, it seems to have that zoom pump, but it is actually the focus going error for a very fast milliseconds (or looks like focusing the back of the subject in mine), and then slowly focus back to the subject, and it is quite frequent. Or sometimes it would just make that whole scene to have the shaking stutter effect for a millisecond, I had even set the focus shift sensitivity to the lowest, and it still does the same thing. For the body I'm currently using A7S3.
Attached here is an example (not my video, but a clip I manage to found online which has the same issue as mine), look at the table at the bottom area and you'll understand what I meant:
th-cam.com/video/DqZnYqg3zRA/w-d-xo.html
Much appreciated for your replies, thank you.
I wish Sony would make a 16mm f1.4 that accepts screw on front filters.
Just bought the Tamron 17-28.
Fairly certain I’m in good shape with this length.
I am using this as well. A great lens voor photo and video. Later I bought the 24mm GM but hardly use it because this thing is more versatile and I don’t see much of a difference. Usability of F1.4 is only for specific cases.
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I debated and purchased the Sony 20 1.8 for indoor w/out flash gimbal work. The 20 should be a GM, it’s got the same build quality. Also have a 6400 with Laowa 9 that works extremely well.
@@keystonebrotherb in hindsight that would probably have been a better purchase. My 24mm also sometimes generates an unpleasant sound in videos recorded using the internal mic. Not sure why. I had it checked and they concluded it operates as it should. The focus breathing is very prominent as well. The main reason why I got the 24mm is because I was able to obtain it for a good price and for general purpose I like 24mm better. I also have 35mm F1.8 which is great, but it is not my preferred focal length.
Great video! How is the distortion, especially at the wide end?
Thank you for the video! Do you think this lens does an ok job for astronomical photography?
How does this lens compare to Sony's FE 16-35 T3.1 lens?
Does the zoom reset to 16mm when the camera wakes up from standby? I usually never turn the camera off during shooting, so keeping the zoom position on wakeup is a must.
Annoyingly here in the UK, the Zeiss is cheaper @ £1150 and the new PZ lens is £1300. I would still go for the PZ lens though.
How much noise did the motors make?
16:44 From another test I've seen the Ziess lens stabilization doesn't actually make the lens any more steady when compared to the sony.
So I do have the Zeiss, had it about 4 years. All sorts of wear and tear. Looking to upgrade but if this sent much of an upgrade, What should I be looking at getting? I shoot it for photos and video for real estate
The soap bubbly things look like smiley faces 😂
The front blur is aliens with sunglasses.
Hope all is well, friend.
Gerald, keep the artificial flare test. Veiling flare resistance is critical in interior photography. I really hope the new 16-35 GM 2 will outperform other Sony 16-35s in flare resistance department
It's not a GM. It's a G lens, I'm in two minds I had the old GM in my basket and than they drop this. This one makes I think could be the one as I do alot of gimbal work
Planning to get this... but on the other hand, have Sigma 14-24 f2.8. which one do you recommend, assume mostly used for landscape on A7RV?
I want get 16-35gm but it doesn’t have OSS. Do I need OSS if no how to setup my A7mk1 with no ibis for landscape and video please give me a recommendation? I will get a A7iv after I get the lens.
Good morning Gerald,
Please do naruto run for autofocus tests moving forward.
Thank you,
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Gerald do you know anything about an upcoming 16-35 G Master? I’m about to purchase the current version but I’m not sure if it’s a bad idea in 2023? May I know your thought on this please!? Thanks
It’s better except the stabilisation but, ibis should be enough, ibis + oss is much better than just ibis?
Good work 👏
Which microphone do you use in this video, and wich sound devices
I think he uses Sennheiser MKH 50
Dumb question, but would this lens be sufficient to take pictures of northern light?
is there a list of bodies that are compatible with the 'zoom speed' function? i understand you can program the rocker for 5 steps of speed but it's only available on 'compatible bodies'... (i have a7iii)