I think the world wide Witches and Wizards explanation is best, remember not all Witches and Wizards use wands the Harry Potter universe, and JK Rowling actually expands that point by talking about how it is practices through Africa and in south America, the Latin part for spells is an inherently European thing, which made its way to America at the same time as muggle settlements began there. Most spells are Latin based because Latin was likely the educated language when many of these spells were first written by historical Witches and Wizards, most spells probably kept the Latin origins for the same reason mentioned, creating spells was a dangerous task, so the view was probably if its not broken, don't fix it, as for Snape creating his spell, he probably adds the Latin language into it because of the type of man he is, he is educated and would most likely see it as commonry to use any other language, it's not uncommon for educated people in the muggle world to do the same, just speak to a university lecturer, they use complicated words for a living xD
@@liamscott555 Latin was one of the languages taught at the time of the establishment of Hogwarts in the schools of Europe and England as a common written language. Most spoke Latin as a way of communicating in a foreign country. That way they didn't need foreign dialects to be understood at until they were able to pick up enough of the local language.
Let's also not forget that Luna's mom has died because of experimenting with spells etc... I think "spell-creation" can be seen in that as well. In the end, i think that, as a wizard, if you're creative enough (and yes, patient of course), you can achieve a set of different spells and do what you want them to do. Snape was bullied a lot so it makes sense that he is in search at something to defend himself with. Sectumsempra is maybe on the dark end. Levicorpus is not. I don't think you have to be highly skilled (Prof. Lockhart), but rather you really need a spell to help you, something that doesn't exist yet. "Obliviate" sounds exactly as what it's supposed to do. "To forget". It's a spell that Lockhart surely could use and i'm sure that he thought about it a lot. He needed something so that other skilled wizards wouldn't go out and say that the books he wrote were lies, so if you would've been Lockhart, what kind of spell would you look for? You don't want someone to go snitching about what you have been doing. You could kill him but, you know it's an unforgivable curse (which, obliviate should be as well in my opinion) but anyway. I think any wizard can do spell creation.
This guy who makes these videos is actually a wizard who is giving muggles information about the wizarding world , breaking the statute of secrecy. He escaped azkaban 2 years ago like Sirius and now he's pretending to be an innocent muggle TH-camr. He takes polyjuice potion everyday. The Whole Ministry is after him. Very nice video. Your theories and explanation makes the wizarding world look real to me. You really need admit that this guy nevers gets you bored with any of his videos. Always up to the standard. Please make a video on Sybill Trelawney: a seer or not and a bit about Cassandra Trelawney.
Well, after Rita Skeeter went under the pen name JK Rowling and published her muggle books spilling all of the secrets on the Second Wizarding War everyone's jumping on her broom now.
Bottom line: Snape is one complicated, genius, bad ass wizard. In the muggle world, he would've made an excellent Chemist, Physician, or Nuclear Physicist. Love that man.
I think that if he would have lived beyond the demise of Voldemort, I believe he would have changed. His character wasn't always bad but a mixture of ups and downs. It was to bad that he didn't rewrite the Advanced Potions book. Severus Snape had a great deal to offer. He chose all of the wrong mentors early on, plus he was badgered so severely by the Marauders it shaped him into a bitter man.
This seems to be a plot inconsistency. Harry had no idea what Sectumsempra did when he threw it at Malfoy -- yet in other cases, it seems as if you really have to visualize the effects of a spell strongly in order to cast it effectively. I've never quite been able to figure this one out.
@@jackrivera264 no need for apologies lol, in the book, he says eat slugs before Draco calls Hermione mudblood, and after he does he performs a nonverbal spell. Somehow
Perhaps the incantation is just a means of tying ones mind to the intent. Just like a word links the meaning to the sound or the utterance. This would also explain non-verbal magic, because if the intent is so precise the incantation would not be required.
I agree. And also we know that wands become attuned to their owners, so perhaps the verbal focus is just a way of training and reminding the wand how to refine the coarse flow of magic channelling through the wizard.
I also think that Arithmancy plays a great role in calculating the probability of an incantation to work. That combined with Runes would be the underlying understanding of calculation and langauges which could serve any spell creator in their endeavour to create new spells and magic. Runes are also used to break curses according to Bill Weasley, so it can't be entirely unrelated.
Arithmancy is actually a form of divination related to names’ associations with specific numbers. However, we don’t know for sure if that’s the case in harry potter, but we must assume it is likely the same.
I think personally, what is more important is that he not only MADE spells, but he had enough foresight to make counters to them, like, legit, nearly every spell he has bears a counter, just in case
if snape never was a dark wizard, and had to have a job other than potions master at hogwarts, he could make a book called "even more advanced potion making" or something like that, where he includes his changed recipes (with the experimenting documentation and thought process) and would actually help more students get into and succeed in potions. also on topic, he could write a book about creating your own spells. he would actually be just as popular and successful with a good reputation if he did those.
I always wondered why Snape didn’t appreciate Hermione. She’s basically Lily 2.0. Also, Malefoy is more the bully-type guy that could remind Snape of James and Sirious, and yet he likes him. Kinda strange
Maybe also because Draco also bullied Harry and just had a dislike for the gryffindor house because Harry and the marauders were in it. It is just a guess.
@@metalmadness90000 What? You dont think that description fits someone, who spend his whole life either hunting (While his master was in Power) or silently hating those, who didnt posess the pure blood?
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Sectum (the m in Latin takes ownership) and Semper (always, directly translated) literally means "the cut will last forever". Sempra (Catalan) just sounds better than sempiternum or semper.
@@huseyinklc5924 it is but it’s definitely slower and more complicated coming out in spoken word. Potentially that’s another factor of changing the words.
To me it’s similar to discovering a new theorem in Mathematics. Technically it’s a discovery and at the same time you are doing lots of work letting math work for you in a way to get to the answer you are wanting.
A good point... But Latin is invented.... It didn't Just exist It's made up Like every other language. By that logic, spells are still invented and not discovered. :)
The system has always confused me, I always believed wizards always have a connection to more raw magic, which is more emotion driven and random, but with certain words it calls upon certain aspects of it and eventually you can master controlling it altogether allowing for nonverbal magic
Haven't watched the vid yet. Keep meaning to get to it. Ultimately doesn't matter though, because this is inherently true: most things are discovered rather than created, even when the latter seems the only logical explanation for how something was made. Also, I would like to point out that many things are "created", but their meaning is the same, similarly with language. "To eat" can said many different ways, but its meaning is ultimately the same regardless of language. People "inventing" new ways to say things doesn't change the fact that they all actually have the same core meaning. It's the same way with spells. If it happens to reflect a particular language at heart, it either signifies a very extreme coincidence; something more fundamentally magic about the language itself, as if it is meant to be, like the language has a power, or rather a persistence of will, that perpetuates its own existence; or that some higher power is at work (i.e. the second option itself could qualify as a higher power, "mother nature" or the physical known properties of the universe as another, and so on).
Gayathri Vaidyanathan, the verbal component is the incantation. The rest of the components of the spell and how they work are still not well known. Saying or thinking any just word, sentence or command doesn’t make the effect happen, at least not with much consistency, as is the case with underaged magic.
Tedison That wats a fake spell that Fred and George gave Ron as a joke- supposed to turn his rat yellow. Although, who knows? It might’ve worked if Scabnets wasn’t actually an animagus, rather than a real rat.
For those who would like to skip the entire video and just get a straight answer to the above question, think of it like this: The wizard's magic begins as energy in their bodies. That energy is shaped by emotion and thought, perhaps by desires or necessity. Then it is spoken and given shape by the words. However, the meaning of the words is what really shapes the effect. Where rictusempra is like passing a feather all over someone's body, Snape realized that you could get a totally new effect by changing the "feather" into a knife, hence "sectum" which obviously has a distinct link to cutting. So rather than "tickle all over" it became "cut all over." Or at least, wherever the spell hits. So here's my thinking. Both spells can easily be shaped from the very same necessity (that is, incapacitating an opponent) and even both from hatred. Given that tickling can very much be a form of torture, one could fuel that spell with hatred just as much as the other. However, because the meanings are so vastly different, the effects of one can be very torturous (without actually harming the victim) while the other is deadly. I would not say that spells are not created- because language itself was created at some time. Which means sooner or later, witches and wizards began to create words to further shape and refine the effects of their spells.
@@sparticuzj19 Sure in the first movie she didn't like following the rules but after getting her hands dirty with going on dangerous trips with Harry and Ron her personality changes alot as we enter book 3. Even Ron makes it evidence that something has changed in her "Not like she wasn't always mental but now it seems open for everyone to see".
@@phase0400 I read the books and in half blood prince she kept warning Harry about the book and not to use the spells snape’s book. She told him that the abilities are unoun and not approved by ministry. In my opinion she was only book smart not an innovator and inventor like snape.
"You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them - I, the Half-Blood Prince! And you'd turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would you? I don't think so . . . no" (HBP28)
Well it’s possible to use a spell even without saying it in Latin but leaving the desired effect, for instance Ron using “eat slugs” not sure if that was in the books too but I wonder
Avada Kadavra is derived from Aramaic, so yes you're right. Me theory is that vocal spells differ drastically in different geographic regions, some may have similar/same effects
I always though spell were actually just control(will,determined,emotions ect) and magical energy(magic).I saw the languages a way to cast spells more easily because you have subconsciously developed a understanding and intention behind the word, those more advanced can bypass this by just imagining without having to reconfirm their goal(word)of the magic as they have developed a full and deeper understanding of the spells and thus just the thought of wanting to cast it is enough control(intention,determination will ect).This would also explain why magic can be cast wandlessly and non verbally but due to level of control needed it just not something anybody can do and takes a lot of experience,knowledge,power.
I like your analysis. In my view, spells invented by speakers of non-Latinized languages would simply be invented in those different languages. Snape came from a Latinized language background-so he fell back on Latin roots for his spells. My question is, why in the world did Snape leave his old potions book with all of these notes, including very dark magic spells, lying around in a cupboard where any student could’ve come across it? That seems incredibly sloppy and not very unsnape-like to me.After all for many years, he was a brilliant double agent and certainly would not have been careless about anything in his life, especially not this.
Sorry for replying a month later, but while it's unlikely to be confirmed, does it not seem Snape-like to 'accidentally' give Harry the tools he might need to quickly advance through school so he can focus on their mutual goal of defeating Voldemort without worrying about grades and fight back against a wizard with decades more fighting experience (After all there's no guarantee Voldemort would know the counter-charm to a curse Snape personally created and rarely used - therefore, giving it to Harry would've potentially given Harry an advantage in battle should he use it)? He might've been unpleasent and a creep, but he was efficient in his goals and this was a way he could help Harry without showing his hand either to his Death Eater associates, or to a teenage boy whose sudden attitude change might've broken Snape's cover.
@@Neion8 Interesting -- it had never occurred to me that maybe Snape actually intended Harry to get that book. I suppose it wouldn't have been any more out of character than for him to work to save Harry's life during that Quidditch match . . .
I don't think Snape would have intended Harry to get the book. I think it's more likely that the young Snape left the textbook in the old cupboard when he was a student. Once he passed his class and the school year ended, you're usually left with so many textbooks that it's possible to accidentally leave some behind in school. And a janitor/teacher probably found it lying around and put it into the cupboard
@@BruceCarbonLakeriver Yeah, I could easily see Dumbledore apply pressure to Snape to help Harry more, and instead of being a good teacher and having to coach Harry properly/put up being around him (which also might break his cover, or confuse Harry as to why Snape is suddenly so helpful), Snape opts to give him his old textbook instead; thinking 'if he's too stupid or arrogant to get ahead with my notes, he doesn't deserve help'. Also, Snape was far less suprised than he should've been when he finds Harry using sectumsempra on Malfoy (horrified yes, confused no), likely he wouldn't think Harry would use it on another student but he wasn't demanding where Harry learned it from or anything. As for the idea of it being accidentally leftover, if that were the case you'd have to wonder how many years did Snape spend as a teacher in the school without ever thinking of or re-discovering his old textbook, how many students might have found it in the decades since Snape left? I think if there was a book lying around that gave you the cheatcodes to acing your chemestry tests better than Hermione Granger, it'd be a bit more well known, like an urban myth among the student body. I also highly doubt someone as sentimental as Snape would leave something so personal (as what was essentially his notebook) around for any asshole to use.
I once read a theory on why Latin is such a popular language in fantasy; the tldr is that, due to it being a dead language, latin cannot evolve, cannot change. 1000 years from now 'aqua' will always mean 'water', in contrast the English language might change its meaning to only 'drinkable' water. This means that two wizards/witches who speak, let's say, Japanese and Swidish but are well versed in Latin, will be able to read and share each other's knowledge. Basically, Latin is the lingua franca of magic, not because the language is magical in itself but because it is immutable and is being used to share instructions to acts only feasible by magical individuals.
Very interesting topic and great video! Some of the spells use the variations of the Latin words that make up a Latin sentence, sometimes including English words as the root with Latin endings. One example is "Expecto patronum" which uses the -o to make a verb in the 1st person and -um to make a noun in the direct object form. The phrase then means "I am expecting a guardian". I believe that Latin is the base and that it can be used along with whatever language is used in that specific region.
The incantation doesn't matter. It is chosen by the spell creator. What matters is bending the "magic force" to do what you want, and then "binding" that effect to some key word + gesture.
Could you imagine how the wizarding world would change if they found the rest of Snape's textbooks. He jotted down some crazy spells in his Potions textbook imagine Transfiguration of DADA.
I think creating spells works more like programming. We know that intent alone is enough to perform magic because young witches and wizards sometimes do it accidentally before they even get a wand. To cast with intent only, I think you have to be very focused on the intent. Creating a spell would be assigning this focused intent to an incantation and wand movement of your choice, so you don't have to focus on the intent as much in the future. You could possibly even build upon existing spells. Using a spell then just invokes the intent like calling a function in programming.
If I got the chance, I would ask Snape to brew me an eternal youth potion so I can use the time turner effectively to learn all there is to learn, do all there is to do and enjoy all there is to enjoy. It's not fair that we get so less time in this world but until we figure out our lives, time's up.
I dont see a problem with non-latin spells. Avada Kedavra after all sounds pretty Arabic/Indian. Also, its like with anything else. Cars, weapons, technology. All countries produce stuff. Oftentimes pretty similar or even almost identical to each other. So perfectly possible that some leviosa spell has an identical counterpart somewhere from Japan or Mexico.
When thinking about using Latin word in magic, in my imagination, the possible situation is that different countries wizards are using the ancient version of their most systematic language.
Allow me to make a new unforgivable curse, universitas ignis (Universe of fire) (I'm specifically using universitas as a non default version of a word meaning universe, which is directly equivalent to world and the universe can also be perceived externally as box, along with this theirs the meaning of connection to effectively create an imprisonment and dimensional banishment spell then I'm modifying it into a lethal imprisonment as the target is connected to bound then trapped in a different world (Bubble universe) and then on top of the banishment I also then add a modifier to the world their banished to sending them into a plane of fire (or in other words H E Double hockey sticks)and then I can add the modifier word Maxima in order to amplify the spell
maybe the fact that latim is a dead language, and it's words won't change their meanings over time, makes wizards use it for their spells' encantations, preventing it from changing meaning
And indeed, not all spells in this series are Latin-based. A famous example would be the killing curse which is Aramaic, not Latin. In another magical series - Witches of East End - this is a bit more logical: All of the main characters' magic is either non-verbal or accurate Latin. They even say in the show to be careful when speaking Latin because it will activate their magic. However, there is one character who learnt magic elsewhere and his magic is tied to Old Norse.
Thanks for your perspectives on Snape as an experimentator. Well, I imagine spell creation working somehow like programming, so you can connect words with intentions, even build them up from already existing spells. It will have something to do with the hardware of wands and how they spread updates. Then there is still wandless magic. This might require more control over your own mind, as there is no hardware helping you. I could think that some meditation technique might help developing such skills... Control over his own mind is one of Snapes skills, so maybe this is connnected to his spell creation activities...
Mac Welch Maybe if a wizard tried to commit suicide using the Killing Curse, the wand could refuse to do it because of something that was said about not causing harm to its master.
There are wand woods like Yew which have affinity for dark magic, and woods like Apple which are not keen on them. I do not think that this particularly means that the wand would reject casting dark magic, but rather, the wand would choose a master in its own like; meaning that the wizard chosen by a wand such as Apple would not cast such a spell in the first place. Seeming contradictions do show up in wands. Take Harry's wand for example: it has a Phoenix Tailfeather core which stands for nobility and independence, yet Harry wouldn't so much as live two minutes without Ron and particularly Hermione. There are many cases where wands can also die out or pass their allegiance to someone else because said attributes of their wood, core and suppleness can be violated. Ron's first wand, the one that breaks, is extremely weak even without the damage as it was made of Ash wood. It is usually no problem to pass wands on if the wand is flexible enough, but Ash in particular is very personal to its first master and should never be passed on to someone else. Combinations of such attributes are also apparent in wand behavior. If the owner of a wand made of Hazel wood and a Unicorn Hair core dies, the wand too will have an almost-certain probability of dying with them, becoming incapable of producing or responding to any kind of magic.
The derivation from the latin root word like sectum instead of sectus is actually a part of the declination (accusative) of the word sectus so i think it is want give the spell its verb as normally spell don't have a verb
This video was interesting, it reminds me of two magic systems. In Christopher Paolini's books before the language of the elves was bonded with magic, magic was instead your will that you would shape and release, however this was dangerous. If your focus shifted the spell would change. I believe the example given in the book is you're thinking of setting fire to a door but your eyes shift and you see a person and suddenly the spell becomes burn that person. So the magic forces of the land were eventually bound to a language to give structure and focus to magic. However it was still somewhat flexible. A master Spellcaster might be able to say water and produce a pearl because they perceive some innate link between them, the intention is still powerful. David Eddings has the Will and the Word. Magic is essentially focussing your will into a word. Any word, that you believe relates to your will. The same task could be achieved by infinite Words, depending on the Will of the caster. It sounds like perhaps HP-verse uses something of a combination. It doesn't really matter what the words are, any language can be used by a caster, and is likely just traditional to use Latin. But one the spell is created it binds with the words, and becomes its own thing, that can be cast even without knowing the intention, but obviously more effectively if you do.
Shout out to Luna’s mom. A bonafide spell inventor who died for her art 💀 Also, I think the incarnation is just a framing effect for the mind. The intention and wand movement (or lack thereof) is much more important.
@James Cheddar Uagadou, the African wizarding school, they don't use wands but instead point their fingers and use hand gestures. The wand is a primarily European thing in the Wizarding World that helps channel magic more efficiently.
Snape knows Latin, it's revealed non-canon in HP:HM mobile game when one student tries to create spell and Snape is correcting her on incantation in way that suggest clearly that he understands what that incantation means.
@HallowHollow I think that probably the book gave harry a confidence boost, and might have also absorbed some of Snape's magical essence, becoming a magical artefact that enhanced the owner's potion-making abilities. The precise instructions probably weren't that important.
I don't think the instructions don't work I just think it's the original straightforward approach. While Snape spent hours finding tricks and shortcuts that make him a master of his craft. And really at the end of the day would Snape want to just give away all that information
Both versions work. Snape is like a master chef who perfects an existing recipe. His works better because he edited it to the point where the results are better and sometimes with even less effort/time/hassle.
I mean its likely that magic works in many languages. Latin is likely just the form best known in the area of europe. Given the first magical person came from egypt (as far as we know) its more than likely magic worked slightly differently depending on region, but effects can overlap.
I never thought that spell creation is "reserved" tzo anyone. Remember Luna´s mum died making up spells. So it seems to be an incredibly dangerous affair. I would assume that you need a firm understanding of the latin, greek or aramaic language (as these three are what we know spells derived from. Literally anything from expecto patronum to expelliarmus is latin in origin, alohomora is greek, avada kedavra is aramaic) and a lot of patience. It would seem to me a more scholarly task not one one for people prone to experimenting. Also you ptrobably need to understand how wands affect magic and derive the wand motion from there. It sounds like spell creation is 99% a desk task to me. But yeah you absolutely need to have a clear goal in mind. Like Sectumsempra: an injury that never heals (sectum= wound, semper=eternal). It´s literally what the name says. "Levicorpus" a flying body. For diffindo I assume he borrowed the wand motion from diffindo which already is a cutting spell using the familiarity to create a worse cutting spell.
I wonder if you could make a video about How Potions get invented, like how do the Potion masters know which stuff and how much of it they need to put in it?
I think, in regards to how different language users use the same spells, is that saying the incantations is not 100% necessary when using magic. As magic can be used non-verbally we know that speaking is not necessary to do magic. As children can do magic without the use of a wand or knowledge of incantations we can assume that knowing the words of any incantation is not wholly necessary, to a certain degree. I think that saying the incantations out loud or inside one's head is really just to help a witch/wizard to focus their magic on what they want the 'spell' or their magic to do. Young Snape wanted to cause serious harm to enemies, so he found out how to do that using the words 'sectum' and 'sempra' to help him focus on how to get his magic to cut into his enemies as they meant 'cut' and 'always'. This means that the same 'spell' could have a different 'incantation' for each language.
The thought about intent raises an interesting question; how did Harry use it? We know that Harry "didn't know what that spell did". If that is the case how did he use it correctly. He could not use Crucio on Bellatrix because he did not have the intent to cause her pain. We know that the fourth years could have said avada kedavra and waved their wands and barely given fake Moody a nosebleed. So how did Harry who did not know what the spell did produce the spell's intended effect when using sectumsempra? Just food for thought...
In the old times every one with educatian knew Latin or latin based languages because the expansion of the spanish and portugal's trading empire. With them they always took priests to their destinations and in most places they built churches. The church language was and is latin based. I noted that you are telling that sectum is different form sectus in old latin. When you look in the wiktionary, latin, and finbd sectus there...you'll also notice that that is the "male" version of the word. Female would be secta and the neuter version is what snape used...directly from latin the neuter version.
I only studied latin for a semester but yeppp -us is 2nd declension masculine singular nominative -um is 2nd declension neuter nominative singular or M/N singular accusative
A quick little correction to your comment, in many parts of Asia, for example, Latin was not common for educate people. Famous Indian mathematicians and Chinese philosophers were very educated, but did not know latin.
I like to think of it as a very difficult technical skill like programming or lab science. Like the inventor would have to carefully select the words for the incantation, follow all kinds of rules about how the spell should be performed, the intent that's sewn into the spell, the effects that occur, etc. Maybe some kind of ritual is involved using various symbology over several days relating to the spell's effect to instill more power and features into the spell. Like if one was making a sectumsempra-like spell, it would involve incanting words of cutting, performing bloodletting on one's self, etc, over a collection of daggers, knives, thorns, etc until cutting magic is tied into the actual incantation.
Heres an interesting request possibly for a future video and ties into this video more like a continuation video. Now on goblet of fire we learned that no spell can bring back the dead mentioned by dumbledore. If they can create spells. Is it possible that they could create a spell to bring back the dead if dedicated? Im wanting to assume maybe people have tried creating one but with disastrous results in the process to where they gave up but i was curious on this if its at all possible and what your thoughts were on this
Lock heart was above average in his class and was a raven claw. So he was far from worthless, he was arrogant and made assumptions and clumsy when trying to be impressive. His greatest skills were memory charms and cleaning spells.
I believe apart of it has to do with the wand itself and the emotional intent of the caster. As we know wands are in a sense alive and have silent personalities. With that said some wands do excel with certain magic types. I believe Snape was one of those individuals who had a knack for curses and offensive based magic. On top of that we know that certain spells will not work unless the individual has the emotional intent behind the words such as the killing curse. I think that due to the bullying Snape received from the Harry's father and Snapes skill with curses and offensive magic shows that in order to create a spell the wand must have a skill for it as well as the user must have the full intent of its use. Look at when Harry uses it on Draco. He had the full emotional intent to harm him and Harry does have the same skill for more offensive based magic as does his wand.
I imagine a large percentage of the spells cast by Dumbledore during his duel/fight with Voldemort had no word verbal or thought tied to it merely his force of will and intent with several probably used for the first time.
@@christianheichelthis is exactly what I thought. Wizards like Dumbledore, Voldemort or Grindelwald are so powerful that they don’t need those spells to canalyze their power. They can just use the raw magic itself
Maybe snape actually wanted to cut the fight between him, the marauders and James forever and maybe that is also where he got the inspiration for sectumsempra.
Do a video talking about what would happen if snape had not showed up to save Draco from sectumsempra. I think the outcome would be very drastic on the story.
Draco would’ve bled out and Snape would’ve died because he broke the unbreakable vow to protect Draco. This would’ve put s huge damper on the vanishing cabinet plan but ultimately Dumbledore would’ve died anyway due to the poison he drank in the cave.
I think the words are just a focus for the spell. Compact as much of the spell into the meanings behind the words, and the words and movement of the wand amplifies the affect. So they could warp reality essentially, but the dangers of casting magic beyond your ability to do so causes feedback that destroys the castor. So English probably could be used but if you prepare a spell using words from your common tongue it could cause accidental castings especially with young wizard's. Example: Arresto momentum could be just "STOP FALLING AND SLOW DOWN!"
I dont think it has anything to do with knowing Latin while casting the charm. Yes it completely matters in creating the spell, but I think when it comes to casting it you don't need to know the meaning of the words however you intent must match the meaning in order for it to work. My reason for this is that Harry casted Sectumsempra on Malfoy and I highly doubt he knew what the words mean literally, he just knew it was a spell for enemies and he, in the moment, wanted to seriously harm Draco and thats why it worked for him. Sure, he may have known the meaning and im completely wrong, but it makes sense to me lol. As long as your intent matches the spells meaning you can use it without understanding the words.
I thought of making a spell like writing a computer program’s code or a song/poem, requires talent and skill, so people would only make new spells for either specialized purposes or out of boredom/convenience
I've gotten the impression that Latin is used because it's a known but dead language so there's no chance of accidentally registering a spell verbally. The meaning of a word (created by humans) seems to also matter since mispronouncing them causes errors. Which means there's some sort of magical registration of Latin despite it no longer being used, even if the user can't even speak it. Which then means a second party is involved - the world? Whatever magic is! A magically codified version of the language that was registered by wizards in the past? If ancient magic creates random effects that register from the intent of the user, it would seem to imply that modern magic sought to apply specific affects to magic without randomness by joining them to words. Maybe the act of controlling magical effects with words is part of what makes creating spells difficult - there's no second party but a resulting change in magic itself as uncountable entities interact with it and shift effect with words. I could see that as being complicated and dangerous.
@@davidlaws8492 Uh, yes sir... IG you SHOULD watch the scene again Also I am not protecting the films... I like the books better than the films... But in both: Slughorn tells them to join the class as they were later Harry tells that he and Ron didnt buy potions thinking Snape would have removed them from their class for not EE OWLS... And slughorn tells them to GET a book from the shelf/find a book
This is impressive work, both in reasoning and production. As to the use of Latin as a universal spell language, it was universal in the Muggle world when the Catholic Church reigned supreme - even in places like Scotland whose language does (I think) not have a Latin base.
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I think the world wide Witches and Wizards explanation is best, remember not all Witches and Wizards use wands the Harry Potter universe, and JK Rowling actually expands that point by talking about how it is practices through Africa and in south America, the Latin part for spells is an inherently European thing, which made its way to America at the same time as muggle settlements began there. Most spells are Latin based because Latin was likely the educated language when many of these spells were first written by historical Witches and Wizards, most spells probably kept the Latin origins for the same reason mentioned, creating spells was a dangerous task, so the view was probably if its not broken, don't fix it, as for Snape creating his spell, he probably adds the Latin language into it because of the type of man he is, he is educated and would most likely see it as commonry to use any other language, it's not uncommon for educated people in the muggle world to do the same, just speak to a university lecturer, they use complicated words for a living xD
What if spells sort of already existed and it is just the wizard or witch finding out the incantation which "creates the spells" 🤷♂️
@@liamscott555 Latin was one of the languages taught at the time of the establishment of Hogwarts in the schools of Europe and England as a common written language. Most spoke Latin as a way of communicating in a foreign country. That way they didn't need foreign dialects to be understood at until they were able to pick up enough of the local language.
Let's also not forget that Luna's mom has died because of experimenting with spells etc... I think "spell-creation" can be seen in that as well.
In the end, i think that, as a wizard, if you're creative enough (and yes, patient of course), you can achieve a set of different spells and do what you want them to do. Snape was bullied a lot so it makes sense that he is in search at something to defend himself with. Sectumsempra is maybe on the dark end. Levicorpus is not.
I don't think you have to be highly skilled (Prof. Lockhart), but rather you really need a spell to help you, something that doesn't exist yet. "Obliviate" sounds exactly as what it's supposed to do. "To forget". It's a spell that Lockhart surely could use and i'm sure that he thought about it a lot. He needed something so that other skilled wizards wouldn't go out and say that the books he wrote were lies, so if you would've been Lockhart, what kind of spell would you look for? You don't want someone to go snitching about what you have been doing. You could kill him but, you know it's an unforgivable curse (which, obliviate should be as well in my opinion) but anyway. I think any wizard can do spell creation.
@Harry Potter Theory I'd like to know why Snape's important old potions book was in the cabinet all this time.
Dumbledore: After all this time?
Snape: Semper
That's actually kinda what he says (sempre, derived by latin sempra) in the Italian dubbing lol
@@ale305z that was the joke-
@@b4lbotbot987 he got the joe he just means in the italian dub snape does kinda say semper
LMAO joe im leaving it like that
This guy who makes these videos is actually a wizard who is giving muggles information about the wizarding world , breaking the statute of secrecy. He escaped azkaban 2 years ago like Sirius and now he's pretending to be an innocent muggle TH-camr. He takes polyjuice potion everyday. The Whole Ministry is after him.
Very nice video. Your theories and explanation makes the wizarding world look real to me. You really need admit that this guy nevers gets you bored with any of his videos. Always up to the standard.
Please make a video on Sybill Trelawney: a seer or not and a bit about Cassandra Trelawney.
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Well, after Rita Skeeter went under the pen name JK Rowling and published her muggle books spilling all of the secrets on the Second Wizarding War everyone's jumping on her broom now.
Bottom line: Snape is one complicated, genius, bad ass wizard. In the muggle world, he would've made an excellent Chemist, Physician, or Nuclear Physicist. Love that man.
Denise S. He was an asshole.
Evil Morty My point was that despite all his ‘redeeming’ qualities, I still don’t like him because he was an asshole.
@@philipmalaby8172 cool. gotta admit he's still one smart badass wizard though.
I think that if he would have lived beyond the demise of Voldemort, I believe he would have changed. His character wasn't always bad but a mixture of ups and downs. It was to bad that he didn't rewrite the Advanced Potions book. Severus Snape had a great deal to offer. He chose all of the wrong mentors early on, plus he was badgered so severely by the Marauders it shaped him into a bitter man.
He was no doubt a talented wizard but he was also a right twat even if he turned out good in the end.
Ron was able to simply say “Eat slugs” and caused his stomach to be full of slugs. So intent combined with words seems to be the ticket.
And maybe some kind of intonation/melody. So it does matter which language a sorcerer speaks.
the incantation is slugulus erecto, so ron somehow used a nonverbal spell in his second year
This seems to be a plot inconsistency. Harry had no idea what Sectumsempra did when he threw it at Malfoy -- yet in other cases, it seems as if you really have to visualize the effects of a spell strongly in order to cast it effectively. I've never quite been able to figure this one out.
@@adityabhalekar3506 im sorry i dont exactly so forgive me for asking but what happens during that scene in the book?
@@jackrivera264 no need for apologies lol, in the book, he says eat slugs before Draco calls Hermione mudblood, and after he does he performs a nonverbal spell. Somehow
Perhaps the incantation is just a means of tying ones mind to the intent. Just like a word links the meaning to the sound or the utterance. This would also explain non-verbal magic, because if the intent is so precise the incantation would not be required.
I agree. And also we know that wands become attuned to their owners, so perhaps the verbal focus is just a way of training and reminding the wand how to refine the coarse flow of magic channelling through the wizard.
But then, how did Harry manage to cast SectumSempra without having a clue about what it does?
@@mrspidey80 maybe the intent of hurting the opponent (Malfoy) is enough?
maybe, it is a plohole, jk Rowling didn't have a rigorous power system
So it's somewhat similar to magic in Eragon in that regard
How spells are created:
Step 1: Add Elixir or Dark Elixir
Step 2:Use GEMS
lol that funny.
@@proffesornugget1613 COC
Yes sir
Or you can wait for them to finish training
COC K
I also think that Arithmancy plays a great role in calculating the probability of an incantation to work. That combined with Runes would be the underlying understanding of calculation and langauges which could serve any spell creator in their endeavour to create new spells and magic. Runes are also used to break curses according to Bill Weasley, so it can't be entirely unrelated.
This!!
Arithmancy is actually a form of divination related to names’ associations with specific numbers. However, we don’t know for sure if that’s the case in harry potter, but we must assume it is likely the same.
I think personally, what is more important is that he not only MADE spells, but he had enough foresight to make counters to them, like, legit, nearly every spell he has bears a counter, just in case
if snape never was a dark wizard, and had to have a job other than potions master at hogwarts, he could make a book called "even more advanced potion making" or something like that, where he includes his changed recipes (with the experimenting documentation and thought process) and would actually help more students get into and succeed in potions.
also on topic, he could write a book about creating your own spells. he would actually be just as popular and successful with a good reputation if he did those.
I always wondered why Snape didn’t appreciate Hermione. She’s basically Lily 2.0.
Also, Malefoy is more the bully-type guy that could remind Snape of James and Sirious, and yet he likes him.
Kinda strange
Maybe also because Draco also bullied Harry and just had a dislike for the gryffindor house because Harry and the marauders were in it. It is just a guess.
Hmmm why did the magical Nazi not appreciate the non-pure blood Witch? Yes, its a mysterie...
@@Raoul9753 nAzi!!!
@@metalmadness90000 What? You dont think that description fits someone, who spend his whole life either hunting (While his master was in Power) or silently hating those, who didnt posess the pure blood?
She ain't lily 2.0
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Imagine Voldemort getting hit with a laughing spell
Eeehhehehehehehehehe
HE HEH HEHE HEHEHEHE
Eeheheeeheheeehehe
*hehehehehehehehehehe* INTENSIFIES
probably wouldnt work
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Sectum (the m in Latin takes ownership) and Semper (always, directly translated) literally means "the cut will last forever". Sempra (Catalan) just sounds better than sempiternum or semper.
sectumsempiternum is very poetic tho
@@huseyinklc5924 absolutely
That's going to be my new nightmare
@@huseyinklc5924 it is but it’s definitely slower and more complicated coming out in spoken word. Potentially that’s another factor of changing the words.
@@SawyBoyIt's also a question of rythm
Well, by this logic, the spells are not "created" or "invented", but merely just discovered.
To me it’s similar to discovering a new theorem in Mathematics. Technically it’s a discovery and at the same time you are doing lots of work letting math work for you in a way to get to the answer you are wanting.
A good point... But Latin is invented.... It didn't Just exist
It's made up
Like every other language.
By that logic, spells are still invented and not discovered. :)
The system has always confused me, I always believed wizards always have a connection to more raw magic, which is more emotion driven and random, but with certain words it calls upon certain aspects of it and eventually you can master controlling it altogether allowing for nonverbal magic
Haven't watched the vid yet. Keep meaning to get to it. Ultimately doesn't matter though, because this is inherently true: most things are discovered rather than created, even when the latter seems the only logical explanation for how something was made. Also, I would like to point out that many things are "created", but their meaning is the same, similarly with language. "To eat" can said many different ways, but its meaning is ultimately the same regardless of language. People "inventing" new ways to say things doesn't change the fact that they all actually have the same core meaning. It's the same way with spells. If it happens to reflect a particular language at heart, it either signifies a very extreme coincidence; something more fundamentally magic about the language itself, as if it is meant to be, like the language has a power, or rather a persistence of will, that perpetuates its own existence; or that some higher power is at work (i.e. the second option itself could qualify as a higher power, "mother nature" or the physical known properties of the universe as another, and so on).
Gayathri Vaidyanathan, the verbal component is the incantation. The rest of the components of the spell and how they work are still not well known. Saying or thinking any just word, sentence or command doesn’t make the effect happen, at least not with much consistency, as is the case with underaged magic.
I think that the way snape sounds and speaks, he would honestly make a good poetry teacher.
Alan Rickman read poetry
I mean, read out loud
So yeah accurate
That said, books Snape wouldn't have been a good poetry teacher lmao he mostly shouts
You never mentioned how Ron showed off his made up spells to Harry in the Hogwarts Express.
Yea what about those
Tedison That wats a fake spell that Fred and George gave Ron as a joke- supposed to turn his rat yellow. Although, who knows? It might’ve worked if Scabnets wasn’t actually an animagus, rather than a real rat.
jack rogers r/whoosh
Fleet Skipper r/whoosh
Sunshine, daisies, butter mellow, Turn this stupid, fat rat yellow
For those who would like to skip the entire video and just get a straight answer to the above question, think of it like this:
The wizard's magic begins as energy in their bodies.
That energy is shaped by emotion and thought, perhaps by desires or necessity.
Then it is spoken and given shape by the words.
However, the meaning of the words is what really shapes the effect.
Where rictusempra is like passing a feather all over someone's body, Snape realized that you could get a totally new effect by changing the "feather" into a knife, hence "sectum" which obviously has a distinct link to cutting. So rather than "tickle all over" it became "cut all over." Or at least, wherever the spell hits.
So here's my thinking. Both spells can easily be shaped from the very same necessity (that is, incapacitating an opponent) and even both from hatred. Given that tickling can very much be a form of torture, one could fuel that spell with hatred just as much as the other. However, because the meanings are so vastly different, the effects of one can be very torturous (without actually harming the victim) while the other is deadly. I would not say that spells are not created- because language itself was created at some time. Which means sooner or later, witches and wizards began to create words to further shape and refine the effects of their spells.
And somehow this got ZERO likes
Hermione was dedicated to discovering new spells. She was extremely talented. So was Snape.
She was also someone who liked following the rules and never attempted to create any spells because it’s dangerous.
@@sparticuzj19 Sure in the first movie she didn't like following the rules but after getting her hands dirty with going on dangerous trips with Harry and Ron her personality changes alot as we enter book 3. Even Ron makes it evidence that something has changed in her "Not like she wasn't always mental but now it seems open for everyone to see".
@@phase0400 I read the books and in half blood prince she kept warning Harry about the book and not to use the spells snape’s book. She told him that the abilities are unoun and not approved by ministry. In my opinion she was only book smart not an innovator and inventor like snape.
@@sparticuzj19 there is a difference in being "book smart" and being "cautious". Harry could have killed Draco if Snape didn't find him.
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That scene, I'm still reminded I wish the film should make Malfoy ticklish laugh or Harry said Flippendo.
Yah! I know.....
I have been traumatized by HP games on ps1 if I hear Flipendo one more time I think my body will explode
@@SonOfIzalithlupendo lumos 😂
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Anyone else notice that Snape uses a latin word in his spell that literally means "always"?
Which spell??
@@SupriyaSingh-jc1iy septam sempra
He litterally explains that in the video...
@@tuhinshubhrachakraborty6981 It's Sectumsempra, not septam sempra
@@Safff848 well auto correct to be blamed.
And SORRY but I read your comment in a hermione accent
I dont think he made levicorpous but he had it in his book because he needed a counter spell
No he did make levicorpus I’m pretty sure it was confirmed
"You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them - I, the Half-Blood Prince! And you'd turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would you? I don't think so . . . no" (HBP28)
Oli is correct. Snape had it used on him in 5th year and he wrote it to find a counter.
Snape had multiple versions written is his book and crossed out until he found the one that worked.
Oli's Animations You’re correct, this is confirmed. it was widely used during his school days, he just noted this in his book.
Well it’s possible to use a spell even without saying it in Latin but leaving the desired effect, for instance Ron using “eat slugs” not sure if that was in the books too but I wonder
That moment was in the book
yup, for example - "Stupefy" sounds english
@@Freskowy well word stupid comes from latin "stupido" or something like that
The spells aren't exactly in Latin but derived from Latin and English words.
Avada Kadavra is derived from Aramaic, so yes you're right. Me theory is that vocal spells differ drastically in different geographic regions, some may have similar/same effects
I always though spell were actually just control(will,determined,emotions ect) and magical energy(magic).I saw the languages a way to cast spells more easily because you have subconsciously developed a understanding and intention behind the word, those more advanced can bypass this by just imagining without having to reconfirm their goal(word)of the magic as they have developed a full and deeper understanding of the spells and thus just the thought of wanting to cast it is enough control(intention,determination will ect).This would also explain why magic can be cast wandlessly and non verbally but due to level of control needed it just not something anybody can do and takes a lot of experience,knowledge,power.
I'll watch any video with a pic of Severus Snape, no matter what its about.
Ha, I thought I was the only one doing this XD !
And l wach every vido that l see, if that video is about Harry Potter.
I like your analysis. In my view, spells invented by speakers of non-Latinized languages would simply be invented in those different languages. Snape came from a Latinized language background-so he fell back on Latin roots for his spells.
My question is, why in the world did Snape leave his old potions book with all of these notes, including very dark magic spells, lying around in a cupboard where any student could’ve come across it? That seems incredibly sloppy and not very unsnape-like to me.After all for many years, he was a brilliant double agent and certainly would not have been careless about anything in his life, especially not this.
Sorry for replying a month later, but while it's unlikely to be confirmed, does it not seem Snape-like to 'accidentally' give Harry the tools he might need to quickly advance through school so he can focus on their mutual goal of defeating Voldemort without worrying about grades and fight back against a wizard with decades more fighting experience (After all there's no guarantee Voldemort would know the counter-charm to a curse Snape personally created and rarely used - therefore, giving it to Harry would've potentially given Harry an advantage in battle should he use it)? He might've been unpleasent and a creep, but he was efficient in his goals and this was a way he could help Harry without showing his hand either to his Death Eater associates, or to a teenage boy whose sudden attitude change might've broken Snape's cover.
@@Neion8 Interesting -- it had never occurred to me that maybe Snape actually intended Harry to get that book. I suppose it wouldn't have been any more out of character than for him to work to save Harry's life during that Quidditch match . . .
I don't think Snape would have intended Harry to get the book. I think it's more likely that the young Snape left the textbook in the old cupboard when he was a student. Once he passed his class and the school year ended, you're usually left with so many textbooks that it's possible to accidentally leave some behind in school. And a janitor/teacher probably found it lying around and put it into the cupboard
@@Neion8 yeah, not mentioning Dumbledore's shenanigans ^^ I rather doubt an "accident" here ;)
@@BruceCarbonLakeriver Yeah, I could easily see Dumbledore apply pressure to Snape to help Harry more, and instead of being a good teacher and having to coach Harry properly/put up being around him (which also might break his cover, or confuse Harry as to why Snape is suddenly so helpful), Snape opts to give him his old textbook instead; thinking 'if he's too stupid or arrogant to get ahead with my notes, he doesn't deserve help'. Also, Snape was far less suprised than he should've been when he finds Harry using sectumsempra on Malfoy (horrified yes, confused no), likely he wouldn't think Harry would use it on another student but he wasn't demanding where Harry learned it from or anything.
As for the idea of it being accidentally leftover, if that were the case you'd have to wonder how many years did Snape spend as a teacher in the school without ever thinking of or re-discovering his old textbook, how many students might have found it in the decades since Snape left? I think if there was a book lying around that gave you the cheatcodes to acing your chemestry tests better than Hermione Granger, it'd be a bit more well known, like an urban myth among the student body. I also highly doubt someone as sentimental as Snape would leave something so personal (as what was essentially his notebook) around for any asshole to use.
I once read a theory on why Latin is such a popular language in fantasy; the tldr is that, due to it being a dead language, latin cannot evolve, cannot change. 1000 years from now 'aqua' will always mean 'water', in contrast the English language might change its meaning to only 'drinkable' water. This means that two wizards/witches who speak, let's say, Japanese and Swidish but are well versed in Latin, will be able to read and share each other's knowledge. Basically, Latin is the lingua franca of magic, not because the language is magical in itself but because it is immutable and is being used to share instructions to acts only feasible by magical individuals.
Great videos back to back. Love your content mann
Very interesting topic and great video!
Some of the spells use the variations of the Latin words that make up a Latin sentence, sometimes including English words as the root with Latin endings. One example is "Expecto patronum" which uses the -o to make a verb in the 1st person and -um to make a noun in the direct object form. The phrase then means "I am expecting a guardian". I believe that Latin is the base and that it can be used along with whatever language is used in that specific region.
You're giving me terrible flash backs of Latin class taught by a nun older than dirt. 😉
Nice this is something I always wondered about
Whenever you have a dialogue said by Snape, I'll always use his voice.
No you’ll ALWAYS use his voice
Always... obviously....
@@Rose-id9sj nope.......it's OBLUSE..!!
I can do Snape’s voice, Toby Deturmam’s voice(Gravity Falls), Hermione, A bit of Draco, a bit of Harry, Stitch, and I can’t think of anything else
The incantation doesn't matter. It is chosen by the spell creator. What matters is bending the "magic force" to do what you want, and then "binding" that effect to some key word + gesture.
After watching this video I almost wonder if there was a sorting delay with snape for ravenclaw and slytherin
Hey! What's that muggle camera man on his knees doing at Hogwarts?! 6:15
Don’t worry. We’ve caught him and obliviated him then sent him back to the muggle world.
Could you imagine how the wizarding world would change if they found the rest of Snape's textbooks. He jotted down some crazy spells in his Potions textbook imagine Transfiguration of DADA.
I am very curious what spells would be in his DADA textbook not to mention what spells he might have created in adulthood.
You will probably find potion recipes in those
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I love that sempra means always...
3:46 I never noticed until now that "Dark Arts Defence: Basics for Beginners" has such an awesome recursive cover.
When Ron used a wage spell "eat slugs", it worked as he wanted. So u got my point
but the incantation is slugulus erecto
@@adityabhalekar3506 This is exactly what I am saying, he didn't used the incantation but used the words, and it worked
@@harshranjan8526 he used it nonverbally I guess, it is a simple spell
I am greek and i remember in our translated version of the movies, most spells were greek based words, defined by the cause of the spells themselves.
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Your the first comment-
Snape uses a latin word in his spell which means always,
For all that time?
ALWAYS.
It's after all this time not for all that time
@@miaclarke6859 I think it was a joke
Invisipiltix - makes the caster invisible. I WANT THAT SPELL
I think creating spells works more like programming.
We know that intent alone is enough to perform magic because young witches and wizards sometimes do it accidentally before they even get a wand. To cast with intent only, I think you have to be very focused on the intent.
Creating a spell would be assigning this focused intent to an incantation and wand movement of your choice, so you don't have to focus on the intent as much in the future. You could possibly even build upon existing spells.
Using a spell then just invokes the intent like calling a function in programming.
One of the finest wizard had ever known in the world.
When u can't realize the hand writing of a teacher who u had for 5ish years........
My current adult handwriting bares little resemblance to my writing up through the age of 17.
@@rupertmiller9690 Oh
Writing can change by time
I am 14 now, and my present Handwriting is nowhere similar to what my handwriting was 5 years ago
@@kamabokogonpachiro5131 ok
If I got the chance, I would ask Snape to brew me an eternal youth potion so I can use the time turner effectively to learn all there is to learn, do all there is to do and enjoy all there is to enjoy. It's not fair that we get so less time in this world but until we figure out our lives, time's up.
I dont see a problem with non-latin spells. Avada Kedavra after all sounds pretty Arabic/Indian. Also, its like with anything else. Cars, weapons, technology. All countries produce stuff. Oftentimes pretty similar or even almost identical to each other.
So perfectly possible that some leviosa spell has an identical counterpart somewhere from Japan or Mexico.
When thinking about using Latin word in magic, in my imagination, the possible situation is that different countries wizards are using the ancient version of their most systematic language.
Allow me to make a new unforgivable curse,
universitas ignis (Universe of fire)
(I'm specifically using universitas as a non default version of a word meaning universe, which is directly equivalent to world and the universe can also be perceived externally as box, along with this theirs the meaning of connection to effectively create an imprisonment and dimensional banishment spell then I'm modifying it into a lethal imprisonment as the target is connected to bound then trapped in a different world (Bubble universe) and then on top of the banishment I also then add a modifier to the world their banished to sending them into a plane of fire (or in other words H E Double hockey sticks)and then I can add the modifier word Maxima in order to amplify the spell
Rip Alan Rickman, nobody could have played Snape better 🙏💜
maybe the fact that latim is a dead language, and it's words won't change their meanings over time, makes wizards use it for their spells' encantations, preventing it from changing meaning
And indeed, not all spells in this series are Latin-based. A famous example would be the killing curse which is Aramaic, not Latin.
In another magical series - Witches of East End - this is a bit more logical: All of the main characters' magic is either non-verbal or accurate Latin. They even say in the show to be careful when speaking Latin because it will activate their magic. However, there is one character who learnt magic elsewhere and his magic is tied to Old Norse.
Thanks for your perspectives on Snape as an experimentator.
Well, I imagine spell creation working somehow like programming, so you can connect words with intentions, even build them up from already existing spells. It will have something to do with the hardware of wands and how they spread updates.
Then there is still wandless magic. This might require more control over your own mind, as there is no hardware helping you. I could think that some meditation technique might help developing such skills...
Control over his own mind is one of Snapes skills, so maybe this is connnected to his spell creation activities...
If a wand has sentience like this book series imply, can a wand refuse to use the Killing Curse even if the witch/wizard commands it?
Mac Welch Maybe if a wizard tried to commit suicide using the Killing Curse, the wand could refuse to do it because of something that was said about not causing harm to its master.
Alex Downs makes sense
They are some wands who are harder to turn to the dark arts according to pottermore
The Elder Wand did refuse to kill Harry Potter.
There are wand woods like Yew which have affinity for dark magic, and woods like Apple which are not keen on them. I do not think that this particularly means that the wand would reject casting dark magic, but rather, the wand would choose a master in its own like; meaning that the wizard chosen by a wand such as Apple would not cast such a spell in the first place.
Seeming contradictions do show up in wands. Take Harry's wand for example: it has a Phoenix Tailfeather core which stands for nobility and independence, yet Harry wouldn't so much as live two minutes without Ron and particularly Hermione.
There are many cases where wands can also die out or pass their allegiance to someone else because said attributes of their wood, core and suppleness can be violated. Ron's first wand, the one that breaks, is extremely weak even without the damage as it was made of Ash wood. It is usually no problem to pass wands on if the wand is flexible enough, but Ash in particular is very personal to its first master and should never be passed on to someone else.
Combinations of such attributes are also apparent in wand behavior. If the owner of a wand made of Hazel wood and a Unicorn Hair core dies, the wand too will have an almost-certain probability of dying with them, becoming incapable of producing or responding to any kind of magic.
I imagine it to be more of a ‘create magic and bind them into words’
Rather than ‘find what words have been bound to magic’
The derivation from the latin root word like sectum instead of sectus is actually a part of the declination (accusative) of the word sectus so i think it is want give the spell its verb as normally spell don't have a verb
This video was interesting, it reminds me of two magic systems.
In Christopher Paolini's books before the language of the elves was bonded with magic, magic was instead your will that you would shape and release, however this was dangerous. If your focus shifted the spell would change. I believe the example given in the book is you're thinking of setting fire to a door but your eyes shift and you see a person and suddenly the spell becomes burn that person. So the magic forces of the land were eventually bound to a language to give structure and focus to magic. However it was still somewhat flexible. A master Spellcaster might be able to say water and produce a pearl because they perceive some innate link between them, the intention is still powerful.
David Eddings has the Will and the Word. Magic is essentially focussing your will into a word. Any word, that you believe relates to your will. The same task could be achieved by infinite Words, depending on the Will of the caster.
It sounds like perhaps HP-verse uses something of a combination. It doesn't really matter what the words are, any language can be used by a caster, and is likely just traditional to use Latin. But one the spell is created it binds with the words, and becomes its own thing, that can be cast even without knowing the intention, but obviously more effectively if you do.
2:54 - Do you know what the writing on the arc, behind Snape, means???
No
"Melon", The elvish word for "Friend".
Don’t forget: he created those 7 before he was even a legal adult. That’s how powerful he was!
Shout out to Luna’s mom. A bonafide spell inventor who died for her art 💀
Also, I think the incarnation is just a framing effect for the mind. The intention and wand movement (or lack thereof) is much more important.
@James Cheddar frankly rubber ducks are a mystery for them, not mention particle physics LOL
@James Cheddar Uagadou, the African wizarding school, they don't use wands but instead point their fingers and use hand gestures. The wand is a primarily European thing in the Wizarding World that helps channel magic more efficiently.
Snape knows Latin, it's revealed non-canon in HP:HM mobile game when one student tries to create spell and Snape is correcting her on incantation in way that suggest clearly that he understands what that incantation means.
Snape should have just written his own textbook so they had one where the instructions actually worked
@HallowHollow I think that probably the book gave harry a confidence boost, and might have also absorbed some of Snape's magical essence, becoming a magical artefact that enhanced the owner's potion-making abilities. The precise instructions probably weren't that important.
I don't think the instructions don't work I just think it's the original straightforward approach. While Snape spent hours finding tricks and shortcuts that make him a master of his craft. And really at the end of the day would Snape want to just give away all that information
@JoshuaL it isn't necessarily wrong, snape had better methods
Both versions work. Snape is like a master chef who perfects an existing recipe. His works better because he edited it to the point where the results are better and sometimes with even less effort/time/hassle.
I mean its likely that magic works in many languages. Latin is likely just the form best known in the area of europe. Given the first magical person came from egypt (as far as we know) its more than likely magic worked slightly differently depending on region, but effects can overlap.
I never thought that spell creation is "reserved" tzo anyone. Remember Luna´s mum died making up spells. So it seems to be an incredibly dangerous affair. I would assume that you need a firm understanding of the latin, greek or aramaic language (as these three are what we know spells derived from. Literally anything from expecto patronum to expelliarmus is latin in origin, alohomora is greek, avada kedavra is aramaic) and a lot of patience. It would seem to me a more scholarly task not one one for people prone to experimenting. Also you ptrobably need to understand how wands affect magic and derive the wand motion from there. It sounds like spell creation is 99% a desk task to me. But yeah you absolutely need to have a clear goal in mind. Like Sectumsempra: an injury that never heals (sectum= wound, semper=eternal). It´s literally what the name says. "Levicorpus" a flying body. For diffindo I assume he borrowed the wand motion from diffindo which already is a cutting spell using the familiarity to create a worse cutting spell.
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I wonder if you could make a video about How Potions get invented, like how do the Potion masters know which stuff and how much of it they need to put in it?
I just read your comment in my head with Kate Mulgrew's voice.
love your videos keep em up ❤
LMAO! I commented on the Snape video from a week ago questioning how spells are made, then I see this video XD
I think, in regards to how different language users use the same spells, is that saying the incantations is not 100% necessary when using magic. As magic can be used non-verbally we know that speaking is not necessary to do magic. As children can do magic without the use of a wand or knowledge of incantations we can assume that knowing the words of any incantation is not wholly necessary, to a certain degree. I think that saying the incantations out loud or inside one's head is really just to help a witch/wizard to focus their magic on what they want the 'spell' or their magic to do.
Young Snape wanted to cause serious harm to enemies, so he found out how to do that using the words 'sectum' and 'sempra' to help him focus on how to get his magic to cut into his enemies as they meant 'cut' and 'always'.
This means that the same 'spell' could have a different 'incantation' for each language.
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"Muad'Dib" "My name is a killing word"
The thought about intent raises an interesting question; how did Harry use it? We know that Harry "didn't know what that spell did". If that is the case how did he use it correctly. He could not use Crucio on Bellatrix because he did not have the intent to cause her pain. We know that the fourth years could have said avada kedavra and waved their wands and barely given fake Moody a nosebleed. So how did Harry who did not know what the spell did produce the spell's intended effect when using sectumsempra? Just food for thought...
The Weasley twins were up there with all their trick items they made.
I agree on this because avada kadabra is translate to “I will destroy as I speak” and only works as long as there is an intent to kill
In the old times every one with educatian knew Latin or latin based languages because the expansion of the spanish and portugal's trading empire. With them they always took priests to their destinations and in most places they built churches. The church language was and is latin based. I noted that you are telling that sectum is different form sectus in old latin. When you look in the wiktionary, latin, and finbd sectus there...you'll also notice that that is the "male" version of the word. Female would be secta and the neuter version is what snape used...directly from latin the neuter version.
I only studied latin for a semester but yeppp -us is 2nd declension masculine singular nominative -um is 2nd declension neuter nominative singular or M/N singular accusative
A quick little correction to your comment, in many parts of Asia, for example, Latin was not common for educate people. Famous Indian mathematicians and Chinese philosophers were very educated, but did not know latin.
I like to think of it as a very difficult technical skill like programming or lab science. Like the inventor would have to carefully select the words for the incantation, follow all kinds of rules about how the spell should be performed, the intent that's sewn into the spell, the effects that occur, etc. Maybe some kind of ritual is involved using various symbology over several days relating to the spell's effect to instill more power and features into the spell. Like if one was making a sectumsempra-like spell, it would involve incanting words of cutting, performing bloodletting on one's self, etc, over a collection of daggers, knives, thorns, etc until cutting magic is tied into the actual incantation.
Heres an interesting request possibly for a future video and ties into this video more like a continuation video. Now on goblet of fire we learned that no spell can bring back the dead mentioned by dumbledore. If they can create spells. Is it possible that they could create a spell to bring back the dead if dedicated? Im wanting to assume maybe people have tried creating one but with disastrous results in the process to where they gave up but i was curious on this if its at all possible and what your thoughts were on this
Loved the video keep making them there great
Lock heart was above average in his class and was a raven claw. So he was far from worthless, he was arrogant and made assumptions and clumsy when trying to be impressive. His greatest skills were memory charms and cleaning spells.
absolutely LOVED this vid and Snape 😆
JKR should give way more details on this universe and perhaps even news stories!!! I think 100 books more would be great ! 1500 pages for each of them
honestly, given JKR's recent bullshit it seems like harry potter was her magnum opus and she will never be able to get close to it again.
I believe apart of it has to do with the wand itself and the emotional intent of the caster. As we know wands are in a sense alive and have silent personalities. With that said some wands do excel with certain magic types. I believe Snape was one of those individuals who had a knack for curses and offensive based magic. On top of that we know that certain spells will not work unless the individual has the emotional intent behind the words such as the killing curse. I think that due to the bullying Snape received from the Harry's father and Snapes skill with curses and offensive magic shows that in order to create a spell the wand must have a skill for it as well as the user must have the full intent of its use. Look at when Harry uses it on Draco. He had the full emotional intent to harm him and Harry does have the same skill for more offensive based magic as does his wand.
I wonder if Dumbledore created/discovered any spells? He was a very talented and patient wizard after all.
I imagine a large percentage of the spells cast by Dumbledore during his duel/fight with Voldemort had no word verbal or thought tied to it merely his force of will and intent with several probably used for the first time.
@@christianheichelthis is exactly what I thought. Wizards like Dumbledore, Voldemort or Grindelwald are so powerful that they don’t need those spells to canalyze their power. They can just use the raw magic itself
Maybe snape actually wanted to cut the fight between him, the marauders and James forever and maybe that is also where he got the inspiration for sectumsempra.
Do a video talking about what would happen if snape had not showed up to save Draco from sectumsempra. I think the outcome would be very drastic on the story.
Good idea- I imagine that it would have massive trickle down impact because of Snape's unbreakable vow
Harry Potter Theory exactly what I was thinking. Also I haven’t found any videos talking about the topic.
Insidious That topic is definitely worth exploring. Given the huge size of the castle, Snape certainly was Johnny on the spot.
Draco would’ve bled out and Snape would’ve died because he broke the unbreakable vow to protect Draco. This would’ve put s huge damper on the vanishing cabinet plan but ultimately Dumbledore would’ve died anyway due to the poison he drank in the cave.
@@Muggleborn72 Did you read the books?
Snape was a hero, he was there every step of the way playing his part. Dumbledore and him were always in cahoots.
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I think the words are just a focus for the spell. Compact as much of the spell into the meanings behind the words, and the words and movement of the wand amplifies the affect. So they could warp reality essentially, but the dangers of casting magic beyond your ability to do so causes feedback that destroys the castor.
So English probably could be used but if you prepare a spell using words from your common tongue it could cause accidental castings especially with young wizard's.
Example: Arresto momentum could be just "STOP FALLING AND SLOW DOWN!"
you know whats weird? the stupefy spell in polish dubbing is drentwota
In Czech it is Mdloby na tebe, that literary means Fainting on you. That's weird.
I dont think it has anything to do with knowing Latin while casting the charm. Yes it completely matters in creating the spell, but I think when it comes to casting it you don't need to know the meaning of the words however you intent must match the meaning in order for it to work. My reason for this is that Harry casted Sectumsempra on Malfoy and I highly doubt he knew what the words mean literally, he just knew it was a spell for enemies and he, in the moment, wanted to seriously harm Draco and thats why it worked for him. Sure, he may have known the meaning and im completely wrong, but it makes sense to me lol. As long as your intent matches the spells meaning you can use it without understanding the words.
I thought of making a spell like writing a computer program’s code or a song/poem, requires talent and skill, so people would only make new spells for either specialized purposes or out of boredom/convenience
I've gotten the impression that Latin is used because it's a known but dead language so there's no chance of accidentally registering a spell verbally. The meaning of a word (created by humans) seems to also matter since mispronouncing them causes errors. Which means there's some sort of magical registration of Latin despite it no longer being used, even if the user can't even speak it. Which then means a second party is involved - the world? Whatever magic is! A magically codified version of the language that was registered by wizards in the past? If ancient magic creates random effects that register from the intent of the user, it would seem to imply that modern magic sought to apply specific affects to magic without randomness by joining them to words. Maybe the act of controlling magical effects with words is part of what makes creating spells difficult - there's no second party but a resulting change in magic itself as uncountable entities interact with it and shift effect with words. I could see that as being complicated and dangerous.
Slughorn gave Harry and Ron their books, he didn't tell them to go and find one...that was in the movie.
No. Both in the book and movie Harry and Ron take it from a book cupboard
@@sharfer374 Uh, nope.
@@davidlaws8492 Uh, yes sir...
IG you SHOULD watch the scene again
Also I am not protecting the films... I like the books better than the films...
But in both:
Slughorn tells them to join the class as they were later
Harry tells that he and Ron didnt buy potions thinking Snape would have removed them from their class for not EE OWLS...
And slughorn tells them to GET a book from the shelf/find a book
What’s the differences between charms, curses, and enchantments? Is it all in the intent? 9:25
This is impressive work, both in reasoning and production. As to the use of Latin as a universal spell language, it was universal in the Muggle world when the Catholic Church reigned supreme - even in places like Scotland whose language does (I think) not have a Latin base.
Lots of great information here. Thanks.