What a beautiful piano concerto that deserves some popularity! It is so sad that Kosenko is basically lost to history! Thank you for giving people the opportunity to hear this gem!
thanks for this gem! Merry Christmas! P.S. //actually, Kosenko is considered to be our ukrainian composer. His mother was ukrainian. He lived and taught students in Zhytomyr & Kyiv, so that's not a russian piano concerto :)
@@konstantin1943самоідентифікував він себе як українець. За що був і переслідуваний в часи радянського союзу від таємних служб з Москви. Через це від сильного довготривалого стресу і помер. Більшість свого життя жив, писав, викладав в Україні.
Косенко-це український композитор з багатою поліфонічною палітрою.Нажаль виконавець не відчуває цього.Дякуємо за популяризацію української класичної музики.
Such a nice piece. I think the reason it's not as popular is that the whole first movement is filled with high tension. Would be better if adding some silent moment
These guys are even more dramatic and technically dazzling than Liszt and Rachmaninov But Liszt and Rachmaninov are more profound ( though these others have profound moments too ) Also I sense that Liszt and Rachmaninov,like Chopin arranged the musical material into a more well defined format,so that one could sense a clear unfolding of the ideas and sense of direction,whereas these other lesser known composers tend to just let the music flow on a logically sequential way no doubt, but with less regard to maintaining a format though there are returns to the already presented material here and there, This looser format,bordering on extemporization, makes it harder for the iistener to follow and to predict where the music will go and hence to emotionally ride with the music. so to speak
Described as being "bombastic". The recording suffers from a lack of dynamic contrasts. There seems little recognition of the dynamics as indicated in the score.
i know the recordings old and this is a mighty work to learn, but these pianists are atrocious, the dynamics just bleed together and ruin the beauty and genius of such a pretty concerto
I thought Liszt and Rachmaninov were the last chapter on technically dazzling music but there's others as I see,with incredible imaginations and sense of the dramatic employing à vast pléthora of technical and textural devices heightening the sense of the dramatic and often very inspired in nature
I've never heard of this composer before, but this masterwork is astounding. It may even surpass Rachmaninov's third piano concerto. He has late Romantic/ Russian feel that almost overwhelms you. I thank Revusky and Maiboroda for finishing this masterwork up after it was damaged.
Rebonjour! Cela fait assez longtemps que je cherche sur internet les partitions pour cette pièce magnifique (peut être avec un rêve quelconque de jouer ce concerto) mai je n'ai rien trouvé... Où avez-vous découvert les partitions ? Y aurait-il un moyen d'y accéder également ?
Rebonjour Katemior ! Je vais essayer de vous les retrouver. Envoyez moi un mail à l'adresse de ma chaîne et je vous l'enverrai. Malheureusement, je ne suis pas sur que ce soit légal de se les procurer ainsi, mais vous pouvez toujours les garder pour vous sans problème.
@@Par.833.Більшість свого життя жив і працював в Україні. Мати його українка. Місце народження людини не завжди означає походження, національність, і найголовніше - самоідентифікацію. Косенко, живучи в Україні, був роками переслідуваний від московських спецслужб. Що, врешті решт, і стало причиною його смерті.
the idea of russian and ukrainian we had these days do not fit with the old people,all of them were part of the russian empire later soviet union, so its not like you could said this bassically they all are russian composer, however if you do not like the idea of that you could just call them slavic composer
@@randomguy2426it wouldn’t be a problem if Russia’s actual territory were the same, but the fact is that many actual countries and their culture have always been there, despite of the fact that they were under the russian empire. So it’s understandable that generalising all the slavic composers as Russians is not as accurate, there are a lot of differences between them because of their influences.
It’s quite obviously an unfortunate recording situation, everything will sound loud when there is no engineer to fix it. Get out of your basement and go to a concert hall.
It's a pity Nikulin made it sound like a very tiring tour de force. Is the piece actually a horse race? Aren't there any points of rest, some quiet moments in the first movement when it doesn't make my head throb with those full-blasted accords? Any balance? Is there nobody else who feels that the first movement is near ugly and nerve-wrecking to the point of being almost unbearable? The second rendition is only slightly better so I guess the problem was with the composition. The second movement is somewhat better and more enjoyable but there are also minutes of bombastic, harsh quality that don't sound good enough. In the third mvmt. the piano sounds more like a piano instead of an oversized drum but the orchestra takes over smashing the chords like the greatest thing in the world. It simply isn't. No wonder this concerto is out of the limelight. Of course it's only my opinion but history seems to be on my side...
absolutely agree. I haven't listened to the second recording, but the first pianist just continually plays forte dynamics minimum. it's really exhausting. I think the composition is very interesting, and the first movement holds up interest very well for such a long piece, but I agree, that it is just too much, too long and too loud. the audio quality unfortunately makes this rendition of the piece nearly unlistenable in my opinion.
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good Lord that cadenza
This is a remarkable concerto! Why has it gone unnoticed? Truly a masterpiece.
What a beautiful piano concerto that deserves some popularity!
It is so sad that Kosenko is basically lost to history!
Thank you for giving people the opportunity to hear this gem!
This is a masterpiece that should be performer all in the great concert platforms of the world
Wow, that cadenza!
I agree with what was said some time ago in the comments, this is a jewel. I added it to my listening collection.
I love Kosenko piano concerto!!
this cadenza is unbelievable!
This is another great undervalued composer Quite arresting music,very dramatic,technical
Très expressif. Musique qui m'apporte des sensations fortes .
UNBELIEVABLE
I guess the dynamic markings weren’t in the performers copies
...the shade of it all! 😂
Jajajajajajaj underrated comment
You educate the musical world with these almost forgotten musical gems. Thank you very much. ❤🌷🌷🌷🎹🎼🎵🎶. I shall pass it on. (The Netherlands)
thanks for this gem!
Merry Christmas!
P.S. //actually, Kosenko is considered to be our ukrainian composer. His mother was ukrainian. He lived and taught students in Zhytomyr & Kyiv, so that's not a russian piano concerto :)
But he was born in Saint-Petersburg
Soooo...
But the fact of the matter is Ukraine was part of Russia! There is no need to get emotional!
@@anandsamuel1978 anyway it doesn't make him not-ukrainian
@@aendru We all come from the same world and moreover music has no boundaries!
@@konstantin1943самоідентифікував він себе як українець. За що був і переслідуваний в часи радянського союзу від таємних служб з Москви. Через це від сильного довготривалого стресу і помер. Більшість свого життя жив, писав, викладав в Україні.
Wtf si going on with russian musicians?!!!! Every single thing they make is awsome
Not Russian... Ukrainian!
@@kayakeenut thanks for the info, bro!!
Slavic composers in general are simply the peak of classical music in my opinion
@@kayakeenut Same but different, we get it. You all look and sound and speak the same. Like most Indians and Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and Nepalis.
@@jamessv5020 yo that’s kinda fucked up 💀
an extended masterpiece
AWESOME
Omg I love that cadenza!!
Nice
Косенко-це український композитор з багатою поліфонічною палітрою.Нажаль виконавець не відчуває цього.Дякуємо за популяризацію української класичної музики.
Никакой он не украинский. Нет такого народа
@@darrigМожет, орков на болотах нет?)
@@darrig слава Украине!
This was very exciting. Thank you for posting. DA
Such a nice piece. I think the reason it's not as popular is that the whole first movement is filled with high tension. Would be better if adding some silent moment
Nikulin :
I. Allegro - 00:00
Rjanov :
I. Allegro - 22:25
II. Andante con moto - 42:06
III. Allegro moderato - 52:42
Advanced Merry Christmas
Advanced merry Christmas :) Special uploads until the 25th!
@@SeigneurReefShark as if all your uploads aren't special 😂
😍
28:10 ❤
38:27 ❤
47:04
10:37 Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
that cadenza...
You dont like it or..?
@@forta7353 it's really good
@@bloba6969I agree its awesome
I'd never heard something similar, how much power!!!
16:51 is it just me or does this sound very sorabji-like?
edit: this doesn't sound sorabji-like but still a based section
it reminds me the rach3 at some points
Does anyone know where to find the full score for this? I want to play it but cannot for the life of me find anything besides the two pianos version.
These guys are even more dramatic and technically dazzling than Liszt and Rachmaninov But Liszt and Rachmaninov are more profound ( though these others have profound moments too ) Also I sense that Liszt and Rachmaninov,like Chopin arranged the musical material into a more well defined format,so that one could sense a clear unfolding of the ideas and sense of direction,whereas these other lesser known composers tend to just let the music flow on a logically sequential way no doubt, but with less regard to maintaining a format though there are returns to the already presented material here and there, This looser format,bordering on extemporization, makes it harder for the iistener to follow and to predict where the music will go and hence to emotionally ride with the music. so to speak
A textbook example of how not to write a concerto.
Maybe he wrote this as a joke. It sounds like it
Described as being "bombastic". The recording suffers from a lack of dynamic contrasts. There seems little recognition of the dynamics as indicated in the score.
i know the recordings old and this is a mighty work to learn, but these pianists are atrocious, the dynamics just bleed together and ruin the beauty and genius of such a pretty concerto
Nikulin's playing is great.
@@duqueadriano0081a great disaster
I thought Liszt and Rachmaninov were the last chapter on technically dazzling music but there's others as I see,with incredible imaginations and sense of the dramatic employing à vast pléthora of technical and textural devices heightening the sense of the dramatic and often very inspired in nature
You forgot to add instantly forgettable and void of emotion
bro hameline needs to play this
@marc-andrehamelin3304 hamelin you are summoned
13:25
I've never heard of this composer before, but this masterwork is astounding. It may even surpass Rachmaninov's third piano concerto. He has late Romantic/ Russian feel that almost overwhelms you. I thank Revusky and Maiboroda for finishing this masterwork up after it was damaged.
Best concerto ever if you like relentless pounding with no memorable tunes.
That is why we don't hear of it.
Rebonjour! Cela fait assez longtemps que je cherche sur internet les partitions pour cette pièce magnifique (peut être avec un rêve quelconque de jouer ce concerto) mai je n'ai rien trouvé... Où avez-vous découvert les partitions ? Y aurait-il un moyen d'y accéder également ?
Rebonjour Katemior !
Je vais essayer de vous les retrouver. Envoyez moi un mail à l'adresse de ma chaîne et je vous l'enverrai. Malheureusement, je ne suis pas sur que ce soit légal de se les procurer ainsi, mais vous pouvez toujours les garder pour vous sans problème.
47:10
59:05
Relentlessly bangy!
59:00
28:10
How is the cadenza possible 💀💀💀💀💀
SubP,PP,P,MP,F,FF = FFF ok?
Could the description be changed, so that it reads 'Ukrainian' instead of 'Russian'? At least that's what wikipedia says.
so many good musical ideas, but this concerto lacks form and is not as comprehensive and uniform as the more popular concertos
Запам'ятайте, Косенко український композитор. І радянська влада забороняла його.
Віктор Косенко не говорив що він український композитор !
Родився від в Петербурзі в Російській імперії.
@@Par.833.Більшість свого життя жив і працював в Україні. Мати його українка. Місце народження людини не завжди означає походження, національність, і найголовніше - самоідентифікацію. Косенко, живучи в Україні, був роками переслідуваний від московських спецслужб. Що, врешті решт, і стало причиною його смерті.
The concerto is all fine and well, but the pianist is awful. Might as well be a typewriter pounding away at the keys 🙄 lord
But this piano concerto is not russian, this work was written by a Ukrainian composer
Он русский композитор !
Born in St. Petersburg. Back then the western part of the russian kingdom is todays Ukraine. So he was russian.
@@David-_0he was raised in Zhytomir and Kyiv, and his mom was ukrainian aswell
the idea of russian and ukrainian we had these days do not fit with the old people,all of them were part of the russian empire later soviet union, so its not like you could said this bassically they all are russian composer, however if you do not like the idea of that you could just call them slavic composer
@@randomguy2426it wouldn’t be a problem if Russia’s actual territory were the same, but the fact is that many actual countries and their culture have always been there, despite of the fact that they were under the russian empire. So it’s understandable that generalising all the slavic composers as Russians is not as accurate, there are a lot of differences between them because of their influences.
everything is ff and tutti. I like the concerto but it’s all too loud and every instrument playing all the time…….
It’s quite obviously an unfortunate recording situation, everything will sound loud when there is no engineer to fix it. Get out of your basement and go to a concert hall.
It's a pity Nikulin made it sound like a very tiring tour de force. Is the piece actually a horse race? Aren't there any points of rest, some quiet moments in the first movement when it doesn't make my head throb with those full-blasted accords? Any balance? Is there nobody else who feels that the first movement is near ugly and nerve-wrecking to the point of being almost unbearable? The second rendition is only slightly better so I guess the problem was with the composition. The second movement is somewhat better and more enjoyable but there are also minutes of bombastic, harsh quality that don't sound good enough. In the third mvmt. the piano sounds more like a piano instead of an oversized drum but the orchestra takes over smashing the chords like the greatest thing in the world. It simply isn't. No wonder this concerto is out of the limelight. Of course it's only my opinion but history seems to be on my side...
absolutely agree. I haven't listened to the second recording, but the first pianist just continually plays forte dynamics minimum. it's really exhausting. I think the composition is very interesting, and the first movement holds up interest very well for such a long piece, but I agree, that it is just too much, too long and too loud. the audio quality unfortunately makes this rendition of the piece nearly unlistenable in my opinion.
Piano as weapon of mass orchestration.
1st movement is noisy and boring, the followings movements are slightly better but I absolutely did not enjoy it overall
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