Those x40s sound so good even over youtube. It's crazy how much sound they put out. We're looking at a couple of x80s for an install in a 80x100ft room.
Love the Mobile consul. I got a small form factor mini PC and a touchscreen+stylus external travel monitor and I kinda do the same thing when I have table space. Oh and for power lots of options, I got one of those USB-C to Lenovo Square adapters and I can power that off a USB bank or a car adapter into various 12V battery packs I have. It's been great got it up and running just in time to use it the last two years at this one thing where there's really no easy way to get power out front without tripping everybody every witch way. And if it's a hot day I can grab my 40 amp hour battery and inverter to run a fan. That is assuming I don't forget to charge it from the two weeks prior like last time. I'm also using QLC+ software for lighting and that's piggybacking on the Wi-Fi to an ArtNet converter that's up with the lights. All I have to do is roll out the mixing Consol stick the travel router with magnets glued on to the metal post and plug the ethernet cable into the POE switch. one device to control everything and I can just bounce between programs and it's all going over one network frequency so less interference.
Thanks for the heads up on QLC+. I have an Artnet node that I used with Onyx in the past. I am looking for something software based for those times where I just need simple lighting control, without having to pull out the hardware. I appreciate it!
Thank you for the video log. It's very helpful to see your stage setup with your wire management. I heard you say that you do aux mix feed for your sub output. I have seen a lot small sound company that has mix reviews on the aux mix feed to sub outputs. Some say that they do not recommend that method. Can you tell me why you use the aux mix feed sub mix method? Also, do you use it on your bigger shows Aswell? One last question. How do you feel about the DBX DriveRack Pa2?
Subs on Aux is an ongoing debate, with engineers on both sides. I'd compare it to a car transmission, manual or automatic, nothing wrong with either. My reason for using it is that it's very easy to do with the M/X32, and I like the control it gives me. I decide what goes into the subs with Aux. Way back when I was running passive gear, I used one of the original DBX Driveracks. It was great for setting up system crossovers and levels. I would not rely on it for the Auto Room EQ function though.
This is an interesting question I feel like I should chime in on. all the systems I have used have always been left right looping through subs for the crossover. And I vaguely knew about Oxford subs (yeah I know it's the wrong word I don't feel like changing it seems funny). About three years ago I offered my services to a acoustic bluegrass band, 3 vocals, acoustic guitar, mandolin, banjo, upright bass (the only instrument that's plugged in). They use aux fed subs, unfortunately it's eating up one of their 4 aux sends and there's a little bit of a push to go in-ear. A couple gigs ago I decided to try switching their mix around and come out left right and through the subs ( actually the other way around since the powered speakers incorporate a crossover ). It was an interesting experience this was outdoors, I ended up switching everything around and going back to the normal way left right plus sub as I was having trouble with the wind noise coming through the microphones rattling the subs. Unfortunately without drastically messing with each channel EQ there was just way too much low end that wasn't meaningful. The only thing that they are sending into the sub is the base and break music. And it finally clicked in my head the bigger shows in bigger guys are probably used to using that technique with outdoor venues to have way more control over low end. I get it now. But for timing, consistency, balance and ease of cabling. I do like it the other way around as it's so annoying to have basically two sliders for bass that then unbalances the volume. but I finally see why it's used. I went from having low rumble from the wind to switching it back around and having no wind rumble. I tryed this again at the next event that was indoors and it went a lot better but there was still a ton of low end from all of the channels which I couldn't get rid of without seriously EQing each channel outside of the system owners preferred sound in the Monitor. So I've been trying to figure out how to shift the system around to either duplicate the channels to have separate EQ processing or someway to drive low frequency signals from the main output without getting all the low in from the microphones. Unfortunately they do a lot of outdoor gigs, and I can't always make it so it has to be simple-ish
A perfect example of why I like to do Aux subs. For cable management, if you are doing L/R stacks and active speakers, I've found that having 2 channel snakes streamlines it rather than having to run 2 separate signal cables. Using the M/X32 series, I have my outputs mapped so channels 13 and 14 are mono output for subs, and then 15-16 is LR.
Those x40s sound so good even over youtube. It's crazy how much sound they put out. We're looking at a couple of x80s for an install in a 80x100ft room.
@@dg3media please keep in touch. I'd be interested in hearing your review of the X80s. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Nice setup.
Thank you! Thank you for watching!
A simple setup does so good that's perfect
It really is! Thank you for watching!
6:00 "Flash and puke programs" haha haven't heard that one yet!
look into the Venue tetra control for lights... small simple and easy to use for wash band light events.
I use Mackie DLM12S subs for compact setups.
Love the Mobile consul.
I got a small form factor mini PC and a touchscreen+stylus external travel monitor and I kinda do the same thing when I have table space. Oh and for power lots of options, I got one of those USB-C to Lenovo Square adapters and I can power that off a USB bank or a car adapter into various 12V battery packs I have. It's been great got it up and running just in time to use it the last two years at this one thing where there's really no easy way to get power out front without tripping everybody every witch way. And if it's a hot day I can grab my 40 amp hour battery and inverter to run a fan. That is assuming I don't forget to charge it from the two weeks prior like last time.
I'm also using QLC+ software for lighting and that's piggybacking on the Wi-Fi to an ArtNet converter that's up with the lights. All I have to do is roll out the mixing Consol stick the travel router with magnets glued on to the metal post and plug the ethernet cable into the POE switch. one device to control everything and I can just bounce between programs and it's all going over one network frequency so less interference.
Thanks for the heads up on QLC+. I have an Artnet node that I used with Onyx in the past. I am looking for something software based for those times where I just need simple lighting control, without having to pull out the hardware. I appreciate it!
Thank you for the video log. It's very helpful to see your stage setup with your wire management. I heard you say that you do aux mix feed for your sub output. I have seen a lot small sound company that has mix reviews on the aux mix feed to sub outputs. Some say that they do not recommend that method. Can you tell me why you use the aux mix feed sub mix method? Also, do you use it on your bigger shows Aswell? One last question. How do you feel about the DBX DriveRack Pa2?
Subs on Aux is an ongoing debate, with engineers on both sides. I'd compare it to a car transmission, manual or automatic, nothing wrong with either. My reason for using it is that it's very easy to do with the M/X32, and I like the control it gives me. I decide what goes into the subs with Aux. Way back when I was running passive gear, I used one of the original DBX Driveracks. It was great for setting up system crossovers and levels. I would not rely on it for the Auto Room EQ function though.
This is an interesting question I feel like I should chime in on.
all the systems I have used have always been left right looping through subs for the crossover. And I vaguely knew about Oxford subs (yeah I know it's the wrong word I don't feel like changing it seems funny).
About three years ago I offered my services to a acoustic bluegrass band, 3 vocals, acoustic guitar, mandolin, banjo, upright bass (the only instrument that's plugged in). They use aux fed subs, unfortunately it's eating up one of their 4 aux sends and there's a little bit of a push to go in-ear. A couple gigs ago I decided to try switching their mix around and come out left right and through the subs ( actually the other way around since the powered speakers incorporate a crossover ). It was an interesting experience this was outdoors, I ended up switching everything around and going back to the normal way left right plus sub as I was having trouble with the wind noise coming through the microphones rattling the subs. Unfortunately without drastically messing with each channel EQ there was just way too much low end that wasn't meaningful. The only thing that they are sending into the sub is the base and break music.
And it finally clicked in my head the bigger shows in bigger guys are probably used to using that technique with outdoor venues to have way more control over low end. I get it now. But for timing, consistency, balance and ease of cabling. I do like it the other way around as it's so annoying to have basically two sliders for bass that then unbalances the volume. but I finally see why it's used. I went from having low rumble from the wind to switching it back around and having no wind rumble.
I tryed this again at the next event that was indoors and it went a lot better but there was still a ton of low end from all of the channels which I couldn't get rid of without seriously EQing each channel outside of the system owners preferred sound in the Monitor. So I've been trying to figure out how to shift the system around to either duplicate the channels to have separate EQ processing or someway to drive low frequency signals from the main output without getting all the low in from the microphones. Unfortunately they do a lot of outdoor gigs, and I can't always make it so it has to be simple-ish
A perfect example of why I like to do Aux subs. For cable management, if you are doing L/R stacks and active speakers, I've found that having 2 channel snakes streamlines it rather than having to run 2 separate signal cables. Using the M/X32 series, I have my outputs mapped so channels 13 and 14 are mono output for subs, and then 15-16 is LR.
Have you had the Meyer sound 750lfc subs with the x40s?
I have not
What is the dual Screen PC ? great job!
It was purchased from AliExpress. My old link is no longer available, but I see them pop up on Amazon now