I'm 33 now, and as i look around me day to day, that answer of whether i would fight is a resounding NO. It's due to the political system that shafts us working class at every turn, and it's down to how much that system has put foreigners before proper English people's issues, don't ask me to fight for me if you actively hate me and want me dead every single day. Back when men were asked to fight during WW1 and WW2, most of them went willingly because back then, England meant something.
Oh but Leesa, won't you think of Abdul and his cousin wife? He only just arrived at his luxury hotel. You'd have him sent back to Dirtistan by Russia? And what about Justice Fiddleton, think of all the good he did by sentencing those protestors to a hundred years. He's so sweet to the dushmen. You'd have him shot by Russia? Jokes aside, yeah. What's to defend?
30 years of service in the military and the police. The country I served when I joined up, no longer exists, stationed in Germany for my whole career, every time I came back to the UK on leave, I would see it had changed ( for the worse ) a little bit at a time. I then did 10 years as a police medic in London and that cemented my thoughts that the UK is lost, having seen the real hidden underbelly of what the UK now is, what is happening and who is doing it. I have no family to fight for, its not my country anymore.
Bang on my sentiments exactly this is not the country I was born in ! My family served ww1 and ww2 and would be ashamed of these politicians wrecking our country .
You just need a functioning arm to be able to wave a flag. Unless it's painted onto something. I wouldn't recommend anyone to defend a flag, that seems silly. Defending a country might make sense.
@@BRH0587 Nice idea for a tattoo. Lads having a sly five knuckle shuffle over the latest Beyonce/Taylor Swift music video (or whomever - substitute your favourite singer dressed as a stripper) shall inadvertently be waving the flag for their "cause"... 😆✊
I'm ex army I won't fight or tell anyone else to if any corruption or false narrative is being pushed. But if the enemy is attacking our shores hurting our people then let's go
We now know about the lies of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan. How many of our boy's paid the price for lies. Irony Is that's one of the Many reasons why the censors are pushing for censorship because of finding out. Imagine no freedom of press during those times. We'd never find out. Our boys would've still died for nothing and a million Iraqi civilians would Still be a statistic. I Will myself never forget that because I was one of the fooled by Blair to support Iraq war And I'll never forgive myself.
@HoardersUnion And even if they did they would be thrown under the bus so to speak and sent to military court or something About how they Hurt their feelings and abused their Invaders human rights. You hear it all the time with foreign criminals who should be deported prevented but get to stay in the country because of their right to family Life. One guy I read about graped a fifteen year old girl and was prevented from deportation by the cabin crew. That young girls Life destroyed forever.
@@davidallen1418 The government aren't who we fight for. No matter what the orders. We fight for us. You and me. Those beside us. Those we leave behind. Where has the British heart gone. You are all losing it so badly it's heartbreaking
@@TeagansDad That is what happens when the government don't listen to you and quite obviously dis like you. the Ukraine war may be about saving Ukrainians to the public but it's not to them, other wise NATO would not of sent Boris there three times to stop a deal to end it. consequently maybe close to one million dead on both sides, much blood on Boris's hands. look up the leaked Rand report very accurate paper.
For my partner, kids & family, (family includes people I have served with), I would fight to the death for. But for this shambles of a government who are punishing anyone who loves England and the British way of life heck no!! This is not Britain anymore.
I do not blame you or the other soldiers one bit.....this is for an evil man in govt who has no regard for human life far less our Military. No one wants war but if its for our own defense its a different matter.
@@soton5teve for the Queen and government that did care a small amount I would and did serve with pride. But that was when there was a future for my kids in the uk.
i would fight for this country here, i'm not going abroad fighting while leaving my missis here with the section of society that 100 percent willl never fight for this country and will use such a sitution to take over while we are in a weakened state
I absolutely agree. I decided to join the infantry two years ago, I've been training to do so ever since, and there is no Labour policy out there that is going to alter my view. When you fight in the British army you fight for the country, not the government, that's why it's called his majesties armed forces.
@TomMcNeil-wo9ji well first gulf war Iraq invaded Kuwait and so many many countrys booted the Iraqi,s out. After alot of diplomacy. Afghanistan after 9/11 they hunted bin laden and they were invited in by hamed karzie and in dealing with the taliban altho yeah that went up the queak.
@@michaelhelbrow7906 we went into Afghan for the rare Earth minerals under the guise of fighting terrorism. Oh and Iraq for the oil. You see the picture here?
You fight for your fellow soldier, in the foxhole with you. Not a non tax paying; but tax taking, german inbred, not even the legitimate royals (look up tony robinson Britain real monarch)
In defence of these young men. They been told to hate there country, they are being bashed for toxic masculinity, why didn't they ask woman, strong independent woman.
I am 44 and if i have to, i will. But, i wont do it out of pride because this country's values have gone down the toilet. We dont have an army to talk about anymore. Look how big is Russia's army, or the Chinese. We dont stand a chance. My dad served and was one of the 47 that died is Gulf war one. I bet he wouldn't even re-enlist if he was called
@TeagansDad you're right. Has always been up and till recently for Queen and country. However, the monarch has no powers, and the government that sits in parliament is the one to determine laws that are legislative to the UK. This includes the military. Quite frankly, we don't have a military to speak of. If the Falklands were to be attacked again, we won't be able to protect it. So yes, the armed don't fight for the government, but it is the government that has broken morale so badly, very few will agree to serve for King anymore. I am one of them
Because they teach volunteers survival and field craft bushcraft etc. And they don't have royals, and respect their secular majority, all thinks we don't!
The people in Nordic countries are very gullible and believe the "official narrative" given to them by their governments and their MSM. They are not called the "wooden tops" for nothing.
@@swepower3597 brainwashed clowns ..Sweden has went from one of the safest to rape and gun crime hotspot thanks to diversity ..are you lot really that naive??
Id fight for my country but i would worry about all the shady guys coming in on boats being left in the country while all the nations guys go to fight for king and country
We've been in.vaded nobody is doing anything about it..... you don't want to be going off to fore.ign lands when you'll leave us in danger... stay here and sort out the mess that's all over our lands......
@@goldiegirl7247 did you do anything to try and stop it. I can't help but see your entire comment as "someone else should do something to make me safe and comfortable while I do nothing"..... Admittedly it's understandable to hear it from certain people of certain ages infirm etc.... but what hurts the most is that this opinion is far too common. we as a society used to be willing. And the British wonder why nobody says Great Britain anymore
@@Niallistical So they don't fight here and kill our entire existence. Imagine Russia coming to Britain. Hell on earth. So..... We take the fight to them therefore keeping home and our families as safe and innocent from it as possible
@ I'm a disabled pensioner, I have problems from head to toe so not really able to do much physically unfortunately ....what about you are you up for making Britain great again?
In my POV I always admired the stories of great man that had strength and will on the battlefield and wanted to be one. But as time kept passing for my country and seeing, how it's acting and what it's become, and also hearing how vets are treated when coming back through all that hell, I ask myself this "Why give a crap about a country that doesn't give a crap about you?" I hate thinking like this, but if you can see the way I'm seeing things, you understand why.
@@theodorecrosshairTTFD So we surrender, hand over our country, and seek asylum in another? This country is seriously full of coward sheep. Where's that British heart. That British fight?
Why would you fight for a country that doesn’t recognise its own people,cannot fly our national flag,second class citizens in our own country.As for our politicians I wouldn’t give my life for them.
@@combatreadyhq As an Italian I'll tell you my opinion and I think it applies to the majority of Western Europeans. 1) every soldier must choose his own battle, embrace the cause and give everything for it. otherwise it is useless. 2) if my country was attacked.. my country is already under attack. they are letting us invade, they have killed using deliberately wrong therapies, they are deliberately sabotaging the economy by financing Ukraine, taking away services, assistance, hospitals... my enemy is already at home, they are called politicians, bankers, multinationals... capitalism is always communism... in a different form... we see that there is an oligarchy that you cannot elect but that decides and the political servants that we elect carry out, denying the electoral slogans... therefore we are not in a democracy. they have poisoned minds. with woke, gender and similar bullshit, all designed to make people amoeba, they are now impoverishing people, finally they want to send us to war to eliminate the white race. because this is their objective... in a normal country you would send illegal immigrants to war, convicts, you don't send your own population, you send the last ones first. instead they want to send us... 3) What is my war? eliminate corrupt politicians right left, dismantle the current tyrannical system, called democracy, which is not power to the people, but power to financial/monetary tyranny. finally chase away all illegal Muslims... Africans, Muslims and Jews. because Europe is a Christian land. so I will welcome chaos because only in this way will the scores be settled. I physically eliminate traitors, corrupt people, and anyone who has brought us to this point... that is, the destruction of the West to favor the Chinese model. therefore every soldier should not waste his life to serve this system, a system that steals your life and gives you nothing except taxes and problems. a true soldier must have understood that he cannot devote himself to a flag, because no homeland exists today anymore, the only banner for which to fight is the banner of truth. as evil operates on a global scale, we should operate on a global scale…understanding what unites us…we are the victims of this tyranny. people are not happy, they don't have a future, we are increasingly poor and angry... a sign that the system is working against us... they probably even expect our rebellion to be able to shoot at the native population... and impose the law Martial. that's why we have to wait for the right time. So don't waste your life fighting for a false flag. this is what they expect from you. you must instead fight for the truth, for a world without tyrants, without injustice. against the wicked who today are in suits and ties. this alone is the right fight. everything else is destructive
What would we be fighting for exactly? people are wise to war now, they know who it benefits and who it destroys. Fight for a government that has me down as a 3rd class citizen? no, I'll pass on that. Send me to prison instead.
You're fighting for corrupt government's today, not your country. Snap out of the blind loyalty to the concept of fighting for the once great Britain. If you want to fight for your country, you need to become a revolutionary today.
@@Semtex_1992Calm down. Stop making excuses. It's all big and hard to say you would be a revolutionary, but what does that do for the country? Genuine question
I think it is because the younger generation has not experienced a community in the society that the UK in particular has changed into today. Everyone thinks only of themselves, and it's me, me, me... you can't identify with your neighbor anymore, you no longer have the same traditions, culture and faith, and you don't see that in a society of diversity others as you see yourself more, and cannot reflect yourself in others more in society, and see yourself in the other people more. The community is so dead, and you identify yourself more with your education, job, gang members, football fan club, education, and other things, and everyone becomes strangers to you, and you are not prepared to sacrifice your life for them in war.. !
The main issue is, the government have left us not wanting to f1ght for it anymore. We can barely house ourselves with the current economy. You're lucky if you make 28,000 a year. An average house fit for a family is 250,000+. We have a benefit system that favours "others" over our Citizens and Vetrans. This country used to be worth f1ghting for, and I grew up infatuated with our military. Would have always served and di3d for this country, but now look at our current state of government and economy. They want us to serve, meanwhile our government no longer serves us? Give us something worth f1ghting for and we'll f1ght. But no, they continuously ruin our culture, disrespect our rights flags to be patriotic and label us "FR". So, unfortunately, why should we?
Reasonable points. My own family have paid with Sacrifice for generations and for what. I'm glad my grandparents are not here to see This though my Nan called it way before 2016 when she died
@cluelessgod97 I think you should change that profile name to 'clued up god' because what you said is bang on pal. You can't even put the English flag emoji on here anymore because it just pops up as a black flag, it's just a further little erosion of being able to identify who we are as a nation. fk this country, I despise what it has become.
@@alanmike6883 same here. I have family who served and a cousin who currently serves. And, my respect to those individuals are beyond how i can articulate. Im just saddened to the point i can not share the same patriotism and strength as they once did/are currently. Sorry about your loss too. I just hope they're somewhere better now.
@@cluelessgod97 Thanks. Last person we had was one of mum's cousins in the air force back in 2001. Even then the situation then was bad. Yes. As you can imagine every Christian time Is hard
I served in the Royal Engineers for roughly 6 years if I am still under 40 so I imagine even though i completely disagree with the wars we have been in and the looming threat tbf pushed by America Britain and France and the rest of NATO I think I won't have a choice in the matter that said i will do so with the best of my ability for the lads around me but i have a genuine question. The British men get conscripted to fight in this potential war what about the people in the hotels that are here illegally are they forced to fight because if that's going to be the case then i agree with people not wanting to stand and fight
Thankyou Sir. As I've said before every single person can do something....I'd be there waiting for the squaddies to get back with a nice hot cuppa and sarnie, bit of home made cake. Clean warm socks, t-shirts for under their uniform, gloves etc.
I was conscripted, but I never feared or have regrets about that. Was send in Anti-Air Forces of Russia, scouted 14 Ukraine long-range UAVs. (My military profession is Radioaction systems). Tbh despite UK and Russia enemies, it's still sad that yours young generation doesn't have warrior spirit.
Fighting for our country?or is it bad geopolitical decisions made by people set to make huge amounts of money for people it wont affect and who's kids wont fight... I would fight for my country if Wales was attacked i would be in a resistance defending my home
I would, not in defence of the king & country though thats for sure. for family yes, our country is ill ridden with muslims and there like and I doubt they would die for us truth be told and then there is just generally all the other flaws we have, family and freinds are worth dieing for. Tbh though I think it should be the other way around, we should have it like south korea, because lets be honest being conscipted would not last long if its a pier to pier enemy, as things would escalate rapidly to bigger and bigger weapons, by the time Id be pushed through training, the big red button be pressed probably. Also tbf back in WW2 a lot of youngsters signed up because normal life was boring, today younger people are distracted with media, gaming, tv, sports... There is no building pride for our country in schools, especailly with all DEI and how muddled our country is now, there is a reason why countries like SK and japan have patriotism in there countries... And it is racism but there is some benefit to that, there culture is still there, british culture is fractured and not a clear picture anymore
I am swedish. 59 years old. I have served both here in sweden and in other countries. If we are invaded or something hapends, ill do all in my power to defend me, my family and my nation. To live under Russia is not an option.
So, its allways the Russians. Why would the Russians want Sweden or Britain ???. Its Nato and USA that have caused this crap in the first place. The USA "needs" an enemy to keep its MIC eating their $$$. Sweden and Finland are Fools for giving up their neutraliaty.
Blues and Royals veteran been out 11 years i would Fight for the country in a heartbeat not keen on the Government at all times but i love this country 🔵🔴🔵
What if the architects of war-the politicians and leaders who call for it-were the first to step onto the battlefield, alongside their children? Imagine if those who beat the drums of conflict had to confront, head-on, the brutal reality of combat. Would their enthusiasm for war endure, or would diplomacy suddenly seem like the more prudent, humane path? War is not a chessboard of abstract strategy; it is unrelenting chaos, pain, and loss. For those who endure its horrors, it is nothing less than hell on earth. Yet, it is often decided upon by individuals far removed from the trenches, shielded from the consequences of their decisions. Today, as we stand on the precipice of conflicts that could pit us against equally formidable adversaries, the stakes have never been higher. The cost of miscalculation could be catastrophic, for both nations and humanity as a whole. Let us imagine a world where those in power are compelled to bear the full weight of their choices. Perhaps then, diplomacy, dialogue, and the pursuit of peace would no longer be seen as concessions of weakness but as the only rational and moral path forward.
Remember during Brexit on LBC radio used to listen to it before Brexit. Being patrotic was stupid and small minded and old fashioned thinking. Then during Brexit the media did a 180 and wanted patriotism for people to do there bit. Also I'd say with immigration pubs being to expensive there isn't a community feel anymore like there was in the past.
Then we need a secular country, no royals, no Bishops in the house of lords, quick , and a volunteer wing to compliment the reserves and regulars . Sod uk, I'll do Ukraine instead they aren't complaining about army funds whilst wasting millions on pomp and ceremony bs and royal weddings. *You should know, the grand plan from Labour & Conservatives is to shrink the military even further, and loan out the few left to the highest bidder* you know this is the plan, they have said it themselves! For examplem - doing Saudis dirty work helping them wipe out some tribe they don't like, UK gets a few billion for a few months loaning out of the army, this is the future! Only way to stop this happening is to Get a volunteer wing to compliment the reserve and regulars, rather than doubling down on the same old tired toxic bs, like "not real men", adapt or die, you choose! @@emstirling-is4nu
I wouldn't go, mainly because I hate being called far right, racist and all the other things this government throws at me. All I want to do is have a reasonable life, but all governments recently treat me like shit. Equally, you wouldn't see any of those that send us, joining us in the trenches, no they'll be too busy calling us names if we didn't want to go..
I am 6 years deep into a medical Appeal with the army and despite the fact that videos like these show categorically, that no matter how much money the defence budget gets, it will not make a blind bit of difference to recruitment as we are a nation of in my opinion cowards, with so few of us willing to protect our home and families . The other reason is because that the medical process is a colossal joke at present, the jsp-950 is never consulted by capita as I've provided three different concrete documents of evidence and I'm still getting pushed back. people like myself are trying everything to get in and it seems in vein. but i will keep going until they either say yes or bar me for good.
Shocking ten year I served 1 batt kosbs my father before and now my boy people can say what they want bring back national service that would sort out the vast majority and make it 3 years
I'm 28, not patriotic in the slightest and don't believe in our government, BUT, if a ww3 scenario happened or we were to be directly attacked I would fight, I'd much rather have the right to complain about my way of life and openly say I dislike my government than have to live under a dictatorship where if I put one foot out of line I'm thrown in jail, killed or dissappear.
Politicians are doing their best to eliminate any patriotism in the UK. Putting illegal immigrants above our own people does not help. Put immigrants on the front line to prove they have feeling for their adopted country !
I'm Scandinavian and live in UK with my wife and child. I dont have a British citizenship but I would fight for UK. UK has taken me in, and the least I can do is protect it and my family
It reminds me about when little rishi started to talk about compulsory conscription. An elderly gentleman walked by and I suggested that little rishi had suggested that all pensioners need to join the special forces. He just looked at me and then said, can I take my walking stick with me. 🤔👍😹☮️
Nah not this time, done it for 22 years. Got the tour/deployment t shirts and medals to wear and reminisce. I know for a fact half of my family are middle east born, they certainly will not lift a finger.
You have obviously not travelled around the world much, you don't know how lucky you are to live in a place like Britain that's why people are literally dying to get here.
This was me as a lazy 15-16 y/o on the early testing for the conscription in Sweden. I had top results in both pshysique and iq tests but the immature and lazy me made up allergies and stuff to just to get out. That's one of few things i really regret today! I think doing the conscription thing in your youth will do you well. I'm 100% sure i've missed out on so many valuble life lessons by skipping that training. Not just the military training, but about trust, comradery, putting some real dirt on your hands, discipline and so on. Today i really suffer from stuff, but if the Russians trying to take my freedom from me? I'd rather die in the trenches for my fellow "brother and sisters" future children
Maybe it would work if we had Swiss type Militia system where the country minds its own business. But the politicians in this country like to get involved in everyone’s business, and care little about the servicemen and women they send into battle. Afghanistan being an obvious example.
I'm brazilian, 32 yo, and I'm currently applying to get my british citizenship for the sole purpose of entering the army reserves as I believe in this country and its core values, hence why I live here. If you are british and think you shouldn't fight for what you have, go travelling a little bit. Go and see the world. See how other countries work and you'll be surprised how good the uk and the west in general is. No system is perfect and yes, politically speaking we've been a mess lately, but as it was said in the video, you don't fight for the government, you fight for the people and our freedoms/democracy. There's a lot to be done so the UK can become great again, but not to fight for it in case of a ww3 or something like that is just madness and childishness.
In Sweden, everyone between the ages of 16-70 is obliged to serve society if there is a war. Then not everyone is in the army. But they have to help. And that's whether you're a girl or a boy.
Ex British military, RE, iraq veteran, my children would be old enough but no brother , i would volunteer, in their place , 50 + , still stronger and fitter than most ✌
im 58 i had two knee replacements and i would 100% fight for my country only down side is im not actually sure what is happening to our country. is it ours anymore.
A conscientious objector is an "individual who has claimed the right to refuse to perform military service" on the grounds of freedom of conscience or religion. The term has also been extended to objecting to working for the military - industrial complex due to a crisis of conscience. In some countries, conscientious objectors are assigned to an alternative civilian service as a substitute for conscription or military service.
I mean joe is a left wing media the clips they took work in there favour I see better answers on other street interviews. I’ll admit I’d fight for country. But I would not fight for the political class if I was going to fight i fight on my terms sure for family and friends but I can’t bring myself to protect a political class that doesn’t care about us.
Joined in 1985 aged 16. Served and outside the Army and RHG/D I joined the NHS for 24 yrs. Would I rejoin, if they’d take a 55 yr old guy then without shadow of a doubt I’d go. If it meant my kids and grandson didn’t need to fight then yeah . I grew up in a generation where fighting was away of the school playground, no such thing as a WOKE culture etc. 🟦🟥🟦 and still proud and proud of this country. Duty and service are values I still hold.
I'm not a coward, give me something worth fighting for an I'll be first in line. But right now our country is in SHAMBLES, no doctors, no dentists, rapists roaming the streets, flooded with immigrants, ridiculous sentences.... Start treating us like humans again and maybe guys will be willing to fight again. Make those who are getting the resources fight for them.
If my home becomes a castle i would defend it without a doubt, my government can do one, they have done nothing for me apart from take take take, but I would stay in my own country and defend it to the best I could and yes I would give my life for my family and friends in a heartbeat
Truth be told everyone wants to join the military when it’s fighting an enemy with no airforce, or at least an airforce that’s far outmatched & destroyed before ground troops are deployed, an enemy that has no chance at winning in direct battle, as has been the case since WW2, but todays threats are different, if it kicks off it will be real war, you won’t be able to just call in air support to rescue you when your pinned down, it will be brutal & many will be blown to pieces without even seeing the enemy, apart from WW2 survivors no living NATO soldier has seen real war, they’ve always fought against technologically far inferior enemies, always had the upper hand in terms of firepower massively, the youth these days see what’s happening in Ukraine despite all the advanced weapons Ukraine has been supplied with by NATO countries, they’re still losing on they’re home turf, a place where people fight the hardest but it ain’t working against the Russians, add to that the fact that modern western culture breeds selfish, weak minded soft lads that spend too much time in they’re bedrooms playing games & chatting away on social media there ain’t a chance in hell that they’d fair well in harsh conditions in a trench being bombarded with artillery, hell they’d have a mental breakdown from the cold wet weather sat in the mud, then add to that the fact that the youth have no prospects under this system, can’t afford they’re own home, find a decent partner to raise families with or even afford a family then where’s the motivation to fight for anything other than protecting the property & privileges of the rich minority whose kids won’t be on the front line with you but get some role back there where they’re safe because they’re family have connections. The country doesn’t serve the people anymore so what’s there to fight for? You can’t even defend yourself anymore effectively without being punished for it, common sense has gone out of the window, working hard no longer benefits a person, most youth today have nothing to fight for, they have no piece of the pie to lose, asking them to go get blown to smithereens overseas for nothing is senseless, & Russia ain’t trying to conquer Europe anyway, it’s operating in its own back yard & has no ability to stretch its power/military anywhere close to us, it doesn’t have the economy or capability to fight Europe, going to war with them is only to serve the rich minorities agenda as with most wars throughout history, most today are not brainwashed with that “patriotic” nonsense that previous generations were fooled with.
If I'm called, then YES, i will do it. I think we are living a too comfortable life for the youngsters to join, but when s*** Goes Down, they will join.
Well mate from one veteran to another there’s no way I’d go and fight for this country. I gave everything I had to the service and conservatives made me redundant so no never again.
One thing I have learnt from Ukraine is politics is completely thrown out the window when you country is getting attacked and also very government has it issues and I dont think it good excuse to say, I don’t want to fight because there not enough money in the nhs or houses or whatever. None that stuff matters when the rockets raining down on your neighbours.
I suppose from listening to your views, you are appealing to old (ancient) values, and notions of masculinity and devotion to duties that have long been eroded or replaced by the brave new world. You have appealed to notions like Country, family, friends and respect. The previous two generations have been warped into accepting nationalism = racism, family = patriarchy, where more and more people are socially isolated, and where pop stars, social influencers and criminals are celebrated, and respect is catering to someone else's ego. We have radicals and maniacs being used to help strip away personal liberties and a government that has proven to be corrupt and that holds the average citizen in contempt, and who seem eager to strip us of our rights and our money. Basically, if I imagine how to demoralise and break a country without needing to go to war, then Modern Britain is how it looks...so I'm not surprised by the refusals to want to be jingoistic, brave saviours of their nations.
I think you are correct and maybe I am old fashioned and traditional who think we should stand up, fight and protect our loved ones. Thank you for the comment
@@emstirling-is4nu I'm willing to give that answer a go. So, beyond the obvious - it's the role they are paid for, why would they? Philosophically, they may hold the value "we protect those who cannot protect themselves" or some other ideal notion of duty and serving the nation, they might do it because they hear "the call", they may do it because it is their fellow members and real family that they are protecting (not the more abstract concept of "the people"), they do it because they are ordered to, they do so at the command of the king etc... Long story short, whatever ideals or stories that we tell ourselves, I don't think many of them are thinking too much about sacrificing themselves so that Michelle can continue watching Eastenders in peace (Or any other randoms living their lives) and most of them would likely consider the average citizen an absolute liability best used for busy work and maybe drawing out sniper fire. 😆 IDK - I guess we reap what we sow, and the disconnect from the average citizen and government and the many pillars of community has caused society to diverge too much.
I'm ex army Royal engineers for 9 years and still serving in a different branch of the armed forces and the old Gentleman in comparison shows the mentality of a large proportion of the young fighting age British men today. It's shocking and shows the difference in generations attitude. Now days it's all about me and my problems and weak mentality it's embarrassing. Hopefully if the time ever did come people's attitude would be changed by the threat of war in our doorstep and a large proportion of society would stand up to fight proudly and defend our nation. Your not doing it for the politicians your doing it for the country you live in and and for yourself and your family because if you don't it doesn't end well. Imagine if no one stood up in ww1 or against nazi Germany ww2 and let them roll us over which they would of 🤦.
This discussion is irrelevant: Britain won't be invaded by an armed force at least for centuries. In a WWIII scenario, nuclear weapons will be doing the damage, we won't need more military personnel than we currently have. There'd also be no time to induct, train and deploy conscripts. There's no bona fide reason for the military or govt to want to expand our forces unless they intend to send these troops overseas to fight/die for someone else's country and/or for UK corporate interests. With the exception of the European campaign of WWII, ALL of Britain's wars since 1066 have been about empire and/or profitable interest. Profitable interest for the govt and their cronies, not even for the people. I wouldn't fight for this country unless it's actually being invaded, IE armed enemy forces on mainland Britain. And then by MY way, not under formal military control. I despise and thoroughly distrust our deceitful and corrupt politicians and would never defend their right to rule over us nor would I defend their cronies. I served in the British Army for 7 years - and then and since saw so many well-meaning soldiers being criminally misused as well as sold out by these crooks. Those years in my regiment were the best years of my life - but I don't feel so proud about having served anymore, just proud to be Brethren when I meet other Airborne veterans.
I’m joining the army but I’m not doing it for patriotic reasons. I’m joining because it’s a good career and experience and with the world spicing up could see good action in a few years
I would if I didn't have medical conditions that stops me from joining. Before anyone says BS my mum went to recruiters who had a tent up years ago and ask them when I grow up will the army accept me in with those medical conditions and they told her unfortunately no
I'm 31 f. I would fight. I'm not proud of this country tho, I'd only be doing it for my family & friends. I really enjoy the thrill of having a fight lol absolutely love it. Great video tho it's true at least you'd fight for your family...
What many forget is that people are needed to support those who are at the front with ammunition, food, transport, but I would do what I could for my country even though I have a broken back and more problems with my body. But I'm Swedish and thought of a song with what you said SABATON - 1916 (Official Music Video) th-cam.com/video/HgGhhnQB1gw/w-d-xo.html a little about the background but it's 3 parts 1916 Pt. 3 - The Battle of the Somme - Sabaton History 122 [Official] th-cam.com/video/onxpDKutG2A/w-d-xo.html
If there is a third world war it will go nuclear before conscripts could report for training. NATO does not have the conventional weapons or trained personnel especially NCOs to fight more than a few days without nukes.
I served in the 90s..I would go back without hesitation to defend this country, but sadly,I don't think that they would have me back because of my age,being 52..that said,I would try and lie about my age if I could get away with it😄🇬🇧👍
I'm 33 now, and as i look around me day to day, that answer of whether i would fight is a resounding NO. It's due to the political system that shafts us working class at every turn, and it's down to how much that system has put foreigners before proper English people's issues, don't ask me to fight for me if you actively hate me and want me dead every single day. Back when men were asked to fight during WW1 and WW2, most of them went willingly because back then, England meant something.
Not my people, not my problem.
it's the uk, 4 countries make up the british armed forces, not just England
@@dirtybiscuit9789the gov put immigrants before all
Oh but Leesa, won't you think of Abdul and his cousin wife? He only just arrived at his luxury hotel. You'd have him sent back to Dirtistan by Russia?
And what about Justice Fiddleton, think of all the good he did by sentencing those protestors to a hundred years. He's so sweet to the dushmen. You'd have him shot by Russia?
Jokes aside, yeah. What's to defend?
30 years of service in the military and the police. The country I served when I joined up, no longer exists, stationed in Germany for my whole career, every time I came back to the UK on leave, I would see it had changed ( for the worse ) a little bit at a time.
I then did 10 years as a police medic in London and that cemented my thoughts that the UK is lost, having seen the real hidden underbelly of what the UK now is, what is happening and who is doing it.
I have no family to fight for, its not my country anymore.
@@Halberd1216 so make it your country again.
Feel the same way, 11 years in BAOR, and don't recognize what I came back to
Sad to hear the truth about our once wonderful country ruined by politicians and their experiment of multiculturalism.
Other than it wasn't an experiment. It's been done several times before to destroy places.
Bang on my sentiments exactly this is not the country I was born in ! My family served ww1 and ww2 and would be ashamed of these politicians wrecking our country .
We are already invaded, look around.
Govt to blame....let them take responsibility and personally escort them on deportation!
People refuse to see, and those that can and should be fighting them here refuse to do so.
Yes, How would losing a War look any different?
never defend a flag you cannot wave
Dunno where you live mate but sounds awful. I have a flag I can wave whenever I wish
You just need a functioning arm to be able to wave a flag. Unless it's painted onto something. I wouldn't recommend anyone to defend a flag, that seems silly. Defending a country might make sense.
@paulsmerton9492 if it's painted onto your arm, two birds one stone. Wave politely and you wave your flag 🤣
@@BRH0587 Nice idea for a tattoo. Lads having a sly five knuckle shuffle over the latest Beyonce/Taylor Swift music video (or whomever - substitute your favourite singer dressed as a stripper) shall inadvertently be waving the flag for their "cause"... 😆✊
Who the hell would go and fight on the russian front for the WEF and BlackRock 😂
I'm ex army I won't fight or tell anyone else to if any corruption or false narrative is being pushed. But if the enemy is attacking our shores hurting our people then let's go
We now know about the lies of Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan. How many of our boy's paid the price for lies.
Irony Is that's one of the Many reasons why the censors are pushing for censorship because of finding out.
Imagine no freedom of press during those times. We'd never find out.
Our boys would've still died for nothing and a million Iraqi civilians would Still be a statistic.
I Will myself never forget that because I was one of the fooled by Blair to support Iraq war And I'll never forgive myself.
They are.
@FHIPrincePeter unfortunately our government is against its own people. Peaceful protest is the only way . Without getting arrested
@@dezhull3311 with the only ethos of a British soldier I ask this, " so are we going then or not..."
@TeagansDad ĥahahahha true
We've already been invaded with men on blowup boats in the English Channel
Yes and that's the uncomfortable truth.
And it's one's without weapons but ultimately will take over.
If the enemies are unarmed then the army can't stop them
You're bald, with tattoos and have a Staffy, right? 🤡
@HoardersUnion
And even if they did they would be thrown under the bus so to speak and sent to military court or something About how they Hurt their feelings and abused their Invaders human rights.
You hear it all the time with foreign criminals who should be deported prevented but get to stay in the country because of their right to family Life.
One guy I read about graped a fifteen year old girl and was prevented from deportation by the cabin crew.
That young girls Life destroyed forever.
Facts we've been shafted as a nation, now we might be expected to go to war & fight for who Putin.....not steamer surely 😂
The truth is you should never lay down your life for something you don't believe in. Its the reasons for the war that make all the difference.
Lol your fighting for Banks and Corporations , well done how brave.
The problem is you are NEVER fighting for the reason they say you are.
@@davidallen1418 The government aren't who we fight for. No matter what the orders. We fight for us. You and me. Those beside us. Those we leave behind. Where has the British heart gone. You are all losing it so badly it's heartbreaking
@@TeagansDad That is what happens when the government don't listen to you and quite obviously dis like you. the Ukraine war may be about saving Ukrainians to the public but it's not to them, other wise NATO would not of sent Boris there three times to stop a deal to end it. consequently maybe close to one million dead on both sides, much blood on Boris's hands. look up the leaked Rand report very accurate paper.
^^ herd.
For my partner, kids & family, (family includes people I have served with), I would fight to the death for. But for this shambles of a government who are punishing anyone who loves England and the British way of life heck no!! This is not Britain anymore.
Totally get what you are saying mate thanks for the comment
I do not blame you or the other soldiers one bit.....this is for an evil man in govt who has no regard for human life far less our Military. No one wants war but if its for our own defense its a different matter.
I wonder what the comment would have been for the previous 14 years?
@@soton5teve for the Queen and government that did care a small amount I would and did serve with pride. But that was when there was a future for my kids in the uk.
We are under attack every day inside our own country
i would fight for this country here, i'm not going abroad fighting while leaving my missis here with the section of society that 100 percent willl never fight for this country and will use such a sitution to take over while we are in a weakened state
I absolutely agree. I decided to join the infantry two years ago, I've been training to do so ever since, and there is no Labour policy out there that is going to alter my view. When you fight in the British army you fight for the country, not the government, that's why it's called his majesties armed forces.
@TomMcNeil-wo9ji wrong. ur fighting for ur own familys survival. forget about the goverment and the wealthy
well said bud. keep up the hard work
@TomMcNeil-wo9ji well first gulf war Iraq invaded Kuwait and so many many countrys booted the Iraqi,s out. After alot of diplomacy. Afghanistan after 9/11 they hunted bin laden and they were invited in by hamed karzie and in dealing with the taliban altho yeah that went up the queak.
@@michaelhelbrow7906 we went into Afghan for the rare Earth minerals under the guise of fighting terrorism. Oh and Iraq for the oil. You see the picture here?
You fight for your fellow soldier, in the foxhole with you. Not a non tax paying; but tax taking, german inbred, not even the legitimate royals (look up tony robinson Britain real monarch)
In defence of these young men. They been told to hate there country, they are being bashed for toxic masculinity, why didn't they ask woman, strong independent woman.
@@gameram6382 Because the women will always fight to protect their kids future. Why do the young men look for a way out
I am 44 and if i have to, i will. But, i wont do it out of pride because this country's values have gone down the toilet. We dont have an army to talk about anymore. Look how big is Russia's army, or the Chinese. We dont stand a chance. My dad served and was one of the 47 that died is Gulf war one. I bet he wouldn't even re-enlist if he was called
Send me to prison i say. I refuse to fight for a government that actively hates me.
@@leesaunders1930 well said Lee never in this life or the next will if fight for this government regardless of threats
Not one single Soldier, Sailor or Airmen ever served or fought for the government. Just saying
@TeagansDad you're right. Has always been up and till recently for Queen and country. However, the monarch has no powers, and the government that sits in parliament is the one to determine laws that are legislative to the UK. This includes the military. Quite frankly, we don't have a military to speak of. If the Falklands were to be attacked again, we won't be able to protect it. So yes, the armed don't fight for the government, but it is the government that has broken morale so badly, very few will agree to serve for King anymore. I am one of them
This is mental! The amount of people up here in the Nordic countries willing to fight an aggressor is around 90% of the population
Because they teach volunteers survival and field craft bushcraft etc. And they don't have royals, and respect their secular majority, all thinks we don't!
The people in Nordic countries are very gullible and believe the "official narrative" given to them by their governments and their MSM. They are not called the "wooden tops" for nothing.
The people in the Nordic countries are toostupid to question what they are told.
@@swepower3597 brainwashed clowns ..Sweden has went from one of the safest to rape and gun crime hotspot thanks to diversity ..are you lot really that naive??
@@swepower3597 no one accused the swedes of being intelligent
Id fight for my country but i would worry about all the shady guys coming in on boats being left in the country while all the nations guys go to fight for king and country
F the king
Could be the plan.
We've been in.vaded nobody is doing anything about it..... you don't want to be going off to fore.ign lands when you'll leave us in danger... stay here and sort out the mess that's all over our lands......
I know they talk about defending the UK shores but all the wars we fight are abroad. Fighting for profits.
@@goldiegirl7247 did you do anything to try and stop it. I can't help but see your entire comment as "someone else should do something to make me safe and comfortable while I do nothing"..... Admittedly it's understandable to hear it from certain people of certain ages infirm etc.... but what hurts the most is that this opinion is far too common. we as a society used to be willing. And the British wonder why nobody says Great Britain anymore
@@Niallistical So they don't fight here and kill our entire existence. Imagine Russia coming to Britain. Hell on earth. So..... We take the fight to them therefore keeping home and our families as safe and innocent from it as possible
@ I'm a disabled pensioner, I have problems from head to toe so not really able to do much physically unfortunately ....what about you are you up for making Britain great again?
Let the politicians fight the wars they want?
We just had a big army of fighting aged men come here that’s a stroke of luck send them first
In my POV I always admired the stories of great man that had strength and will on the battlefield and wanted to be one. But as time kept passing for my country and seeing, how it's acting and what it's become, and also hearing how vets are treated when coming back through all that hell, I ask myself this "Why give a crap about a country that doesn't give a crap about you?" I hate thinking like this, but if you can see the way I'm seeing things, you understand why.
I completely agree with you and I see it the exact same way too. 👍🤝
@@theodorecrosshairTTFD So we surrender, hand over our country, and seek asylum in another? This country is seriously full of coward sheep. Where's that British heart. That British fight?
Why would you fight for a country that doesn’t recognise its own people,cannot fly our national flag,second class citizens in our own country.As for our politicians I wouldn’t give my life for them.
Why should UK citizens fight for the globalists
If we were at war and been attacked in our country would you not want to defend it?
You are fighting for your freedom. Globalists are a side issue.
Those days are long past, century's past..Plebs are disorganised/broken the enemy is not...
I see my comment just disappeared 😂
@@combatreadyhq As an Italian I'll tell you my opinion and I think it applies to the majority of Western Europeans.
1) every soldier must choose his own battle, embrace the cause and give everything for it. otherwise it is useless.
2) if my country was attacked.. my country is already under attack. they are letting us invade, they have killed using deliberately wrong therapies, they are deliberately sabotaging the economy by financing Ukraine, taking away services, assistance, hospitals...
my enemy is already at home, they are called politicians, bankers, multinationals... capitalism is always communism... in a different form... we see that there is an oligarchy that you cannot elect but that decides and the political servants that we elect carry out, denying the electoral slogans... therefore we are not in a democracy. they have poisoned minds. with woke, gender and similar bullshit, all designed to make people amoeba, they are now impoverishing people, finally they want to send us to war to eliminate the white race.
because this is their objective... in a normal country you would send illegal immigrants to war, convicts, you don't send your own population, you send the last ones first. instead they want to send us...
3) What is my war? eliminate corrupt politicians right left, dismantle the current tyrannical system, called democracy, which is not power to the people, but power to financial/monetary tyranny. finally chase away all illegal Muslims... Africans, Muslims and Jews. because Europe is a Christian land.
so I will welcome chaos because only in this way will the scores be settled. I physically eliminate traitors, corrupt people, and anyone who has brought us to this point... that is, the destruction of the West to favor the Chinese model.
therefore every soldier should not waste his life to serve this system, a system that steals your life and gives you nothing except taxes and problems. a true soldier must have understood that he cannot devote himself to a flag, because no homeland exists today anymore, the only banner for which to fight is the banner of truth. as evil operates on a global scale, we should operate on a global scale…understanding what unites us…we are the victims of this tyranny.
people are not happy, they don't have a future, we are increasingly poor and angry... a sign that the system is working against us... they probably even expect our rebellion to be able to shoot at the native population... and impose the law Martial. that's why we have to wait for the right time.
So don't waste your life fighting for a false flag. this is what they expect from you. you must instead fight for the truth, for a world without tyrants, without injustice. against the wicked who today are in suits and ties.
this alone is the right fight. everything else is destructive
I am a British Army Veteran and stroke survivor and as long as I had my meds I would be 100% fight for my country these youngsters have no idea
Thankyou for your service Sir. You can still be of service behind the scenes, like most of us can in time of need..
What would we be fighting for exactly? people are wise to war now, they know who it benefits and who it destroys. Fight for a government that has me down as a 3rd class citizen? no, I'll pass on that. Send me to prison instead.
You're fighting for corrupt government's today, not your country. Snap out of the blind loyalty to the concept of fighting for the once great Britain. If you want to fight for your country, you need to become a revolutionary today.
Same here buddy, ex mob and a stroke survivor.
Would still like to believe I could do my bit 👍
@@Semtex_1992Calm down. Stop making excuses. It's all big and hard to say you would be a revolutionary, but what does that do for the country? Genuine question
I think it is because the younger generation has not experienced a community in the society that the UK in particular has changed into today. Everyone thinks only of themselves, and it's me, me, me... you can't identify with your neighbor anymore, you no longer have the same traditions, culture and faith, and you don't see that in a society of diversity others as you see yourself more, and cannot reflect yourself in others more in society, and see yourself in the other people more. The community is so dead, and you identify yourself more with your education, job, gang members, football fan club, education, and other things, and everyone becomes strangers to you, and you are not prepared to sacrifice your life for them in war.. !
Capitalism*
@soton5teve No it's foreign invasion.
@@soton5teve You weird liberals always pop up with your poncy attempts at pushing communism even after it causing tens of millions of deaths 🤪😭😭
The main issue is, the government have left us not wanting to f1ght for it anymore.
We can barely house ourselves with the current economy. You're lucky if you make 28,000 a year. An average house fit for a family is 250,000+.
We have a benefit system that favours "others" over our Citizens and Vetrans.
This country used to be worth f1ghting for, and I grew up infatuated with our military. Would have always served and di3d for this country, but now look at our current state of government and economy.
They want us to serve, meanwhile our government no longer serves us?
Give us something worth f1ghting for and we'll f1ght. But no, they continuously ruin our culture, disrespect our rights flags to be patriotic and label us "FR". So, unfortunately, why should we?
Reasonable points.
My own family have paid with Sacrifice for generations and for what.
I'm glad my grandparents are not here to see This though my Nan called it way before 2016 when she died
@cluelessgod97 I think you should change that profile name to 'clued up god' because what you said is bang on pal. You can't even put the English flag emoji on here anymore because it just pops up as a black flag, it's just a further little erosion of being able to identify who we are as a nation. fk this country, I despise what it has become.
@@alanmike6883 same here. I have family who served and a cousin who currently serves. And, my respect to those individuals are beyond how i can articulate. Im just saddened to the point i can not share the same patriotism and strength as they once did/are currently.
Sorry about your loss too. I just hope they're somewhere better now.
@@cluelessgod97
Thanks. Last person we had was one of mum's cousins in the air force back in 2001.
Even then the situation then was bad.
Yes. As you can imagine every Christian time Is hard
I served in the Royal Engineers for roughly 6 years if I am still under 40 so I imagine even though i completely disagree with the wars we have been in and the looming threat tbf pushed by America Britain and France and the rest of NATO I think I won't have a choice in the matter that said i will do so with the best of my ability for the lads around me but i have a genuine question.
The British men get conscripted to fight in this potential war what about the people in the hotels that are here illegally are they forced to fight because if that's going to be the case then i agree with people not wanting to stand and fight
You can guess what will happen to your mother, sister neices even babies if they send you to war and leave them with the peace people.
Why go to War and possibly die or maimed for greedy billionaires in the USA. We have woken up. And I was a Soldier for 12yrs
It will have to be Dads Army as i am north of 77....
Looks like it will be left to the over 60’s 🫣 stock on ibuprofen we will be ok 👏🏻👏🏻
@@glenysharley4150 Hahaha
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@@glenysharley4150 😂 😂
Hell yes! Id go to war to defend my country. I spent a few years in the welsh gaurds. Id stand with others if called upon.
Thankyou Sir. As I've said before every single person can do something....I'd be there waiting for the squaddies to get back with a nice hot cuppa and sarnie, bit of home made cake. Clean warm socks, t-shirts for under their uniform, gloves etc.
@@emstirling-is4nuIf the war was anything like ukraine frontlines they won't need clean socks or tea as they wouldn't be coming back .
I was conscripted, but I never feared or have regrets about that. Was send in Anti-Air Forces of Russia, scouted 14 Ukraine long-range UAVs. (My military profession is Radioaction systems). Tbh despite UK and Russia enemies, it's still sad that yours young generation doesn't have warrior spirit.
Warrior spirit is a term the elites use to manipulate the masses ..the enemies here not Eastern Europe.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
No, it's a good thing that younger UK males don't want to fight wars. Sadly, too many males are up for knocking women about, though.
Fighting for our country?or is it bad geopolitical decisions made by people set to make huge amounts of money for people it wont affect and who's kids wont fight... I would fight for my country if Wales was attacked i would be in a resistance defending my home
Thank you, gives us hope.
Wales was attacked a long time ago, by England
@@soton5teve you don't say
It's the saying. Easy times create weak men Unfortunately we are at that stage
@dezhull3311 Call me weak but I ain't fighting for a government that actively hates and suppresses my freedoms.
@@dezhull3311 But you won't fight ?
I wonder how much the education system in this country has influenced their opinions.
I would, not in defence of the king & country though thats for sure. for family yes, our country is ill ridden with muslims and there like and I doubt they would die for us truth be told and then there is just generally all the other flaws we have, family and freinds are worth dieing for. Tbh though I think it should be the other way around, we should have it like south korea, because lets be honest being conscipted would not last long if its a pier to pier enemy, as things would escalate rapidly to bigger and bigger weapons, by the time Id be pushed through training, the big red button be pressed probably. Also tbf back in WW2 a lot of youngsters signed up because normal life was boring, today younger people are distracted with media, gaming, tv, sports... There is no building pride for our country in schools, especailly with all DEI and how muddled our country is now, there is a reason why countries like SK and japan have patriotism in there countries... And it is racism but there is some benefit to that, there culture is still there, british culture is fractured and not a clear picture anymore
I am swedish. 59 years old. I have served both here in sweden and in other countries. If we are invaded or something hapends, ill do all in my power to defend me, my family and my nation. To live under Russia is not an option.
So, its allways the Russians.
Why would the Russians want Sweden or Britain ???.
Its Nato and USA that have caused this crap in the first place.
The USA "needs" an enemy to keep its MIC eating their $$$. Sweden and Finland are Fools for giving up their neutraliaty.
Blues and Royals veteran been out 11 years i would Fight for the country in a heartbeat not keen on the Government at all times but i love this country 🔵🔴🔵
What if the architects of war-the politicians and leaders who call for it-were the first to step onto the battlefield, alongside their children? Imagine if those who beat the drums of conflict had to confront, head-on, the brutal reality of combat. Would their enthusiasm for war endure, or would diplomacy suddenly seem like the more prudent, humane path?
War is not a chessboard of abstract strategy; it is unrelenting chaos, pain, and loss. For those who endure its horrors, it is nothing less than hell on earth. Yet, it is often decided upon by individuals far removed from the trenches, shielded from the consequences of their decisions.
Today, as we stand on the precipice of conflicts that could pit us against equally formidable adversaries, the stakes have never been higher. The cost of miscalculation could be catastrophic, for both nations and humanity as a whole.
Let us imagine a world where those in power are compelled to bear the full weight of their choices. Perhaps then, diplomacy, dialogue, and the pursuit of peace would no longer be seen as concessions of weakness but as the only rational and moral path forward.
Politicians should have to send their children to the frontline - or else not be allowed to mobilise the military.
Remember during Brexit on LBC radio used to listen to it before Brexit. Being patrotic was stupid and small minded and old fashioned thinking. Then during Brexit the media did a 180 and wanted patriotism for people to do there bit. Also I'd say with immigration pubs being to expensive there isn't a community feel anymore like there was in the past.
For sure its different. However if war shd come we have to be prepared, just as our forefathers did to save us.
Then we need a secular country, no royals, no Bishops in the house of lords, quick , and a volunteer wing to compliment the reserves and regulars . Sod uk, I'll do Ukraine instead they aren't complaining about army funds whilst wasting millions on pomp and ceremony bs and royal weddings. *You should know, the grand plan from Labour & Conservatives is to shrink the military even further, and loan out the few left to the highest bidder* you know this is the plan, they have said it themselves! For examplem - doing Saudis dirty work helping them wipe out some tribe they don't like, UK gets a few billion for a few months loaning out of the army, this is the future! Only way to stop this happening is to Get a volunteer wing to compliment the reserve and regulars, rather than doubling down on the same old tired toxic bs, like "not real men", adapt or die, you choose! @@emstirling-is4nu
I wouldn't go, mainly because I hate being called far right, racist and all the other things this government throws at me. All I want to do is have a reasonable life, but all governments recently treat me like shit. Equally, you wouldn't see any of those that send us, joining us in the trenches, no they'll be too busy calling us names if we didn't want to go..
I am 6 years deep into a medical Appeal with the army and despite the fact that videos like these show categorically, that no matter how much money the defence budget gets, it will not make a blind bit of difference to recruitment as we are a nation of in my opinion cowards, with so few of us willing to protect our home and families .
The other reason is because that the medical process is a colossal joke at present, the jsp-950 is never consulted by capita as I've provided three different concrete documents of evidence and I'm still getting pushed back. people like myself are trying everything to get in and it seems in vein. but i will keep going until they either say yes or bar me for good.
People aren't cowards for not wanting to serve their government and fight unnecessary wars.
I would fly back NZ to join, But i'm 58 with a young heart, and a flippn 86 year old body. 👌
No need to go, as the feminists will be out there first.
Shocking ten year I served 1 batt kosbs my father before and now my boy people can say what they want bring back national service that would sort out the vast majority and make it 3 years
Thank you and your family for your services. Conscription may come, lets hope they get a decent group.
@@emstirling-is4nubot
The only place you would be called up to fight would be on the russian front, you would have to be insane to go there
I'm signing up myself soon. Began preparation already.
With who ?
@justRight72 royal marines
God Bless Oni, wish you the best.
Mug.
@@oni_UK where u from ? ..u a native ?
Meanwhile Poland kids have firearms training in Schools yet the UK makes it extremely hard to let adults do any training with firearms.
I'm 28, not patriotic in the slightest and don't believe in our government, BUT, if a ww3 scenario happened or we were to be directly attacked I would fight, I'd much rather have the right to complain about my way of life and openly say I dislike my government than have to live under a dictatorship where if I put one foot out of line I'm thrown in jail, killed or dissappear.
It's already heading that way,uk government put folks in prison for tweets,reporting the news,etc.
Politicians are doing their best to eliminate any patriotism in the UK. Putting illegal immigrants above our own people does not help.
Put immigrants on the front line to prove they have feeling for their adopted country !
I'm Scandinavian and live in UK with my wife and child. I dont have a British citizenship but I would fight for UK.
UK has taken me in, and the least I can do is protect it and my family
It reminds me about when little rishi started to talk about compulsory conscription. An elderly gentleman walked by and I suggested that little rishi had suggested that all pensioners need to join the special forces. He just looked at me and then said, can I take my walking stick with me. 🤔👍😹☮️
Nah not this time, done it for 22 years. Got the tour/deployment t shirts and medals to wear and reminisce. I know for a fact half of my family are middle east born, they certainly will not lift a finger.
Thankyou for your service, you deserve a break. You are no responsible for your family but I am sure you are a credit to them..
Most blokes that have done a bit, seen a bit, and know a bit are of the same opinion.
I have medical issues and I would still go help in someway to help the war effect
People enjoy all the the benefits of living in a country with high standards of living, so they should fight when asked if they are capable.
What high standards 😂
The UK does not have a high standard of living.
You have obviously not travelled around the world much, you don't know how lucky you are to live in a place like Britain that's why people are literally dying to get here.
@@viktormarinov9723all paid for by their own tax money.
I tried to get into the army and got told to come back when I've grown up. I was 18 at the time but did look a lot younger.
The young people need support.
To do this stuff...
This was me as a lazy 15-16 y/o on the early testing for the conscription in Sweden. I had top results in both pshysique and iq tests but the immature and lazy me made up allergies and stuff to just to get out.
That's one of few things i really regret today! I think doing the conscription thing in your youth will do you well. I'm 100% sure i've missed out on so many valuble life lessons by skipping that training. Not just the military training, but about trust, comradery, putting some real dirt on your hands, discipline and so on.
Today i really suffer from stuff, but if the Russians trying to take my freedom from me? I'd rather die in the trenches for my fellow "brother and sisters" future children
Maybe it would work if we had Swiss type Militia system where the country minds its own business. But the politicians in this country like to get involved in everyone’s business, and care little about the servicemen and women they send into battle. Afghanistan being an obvious example.
I'm brazilian, 32 yo, and I'm currently applying to get my british citizenship for the sole purpose of entering the army reserves as I believe in this country and its core values, hence why I live here. If you are british and think you shouldn't fight for what you have, go travelling a little bit. Go and see the world. See how other countries work and you'll be surprised how good the uk and the west in general is. No system is perfect and yes, politically speaking we've been a mess lately, but as it was said in the video, you don't fight for the government, you fight for the people and our freedoms/democracy. There's a lot to be done so the UK can become great again, but not to fight for it in case of a ww3 or something like that is just madness and childishness.
In Sweden, everyone between the ages of 16-70 is obliged to serve society if there is a war. Then not everyone is in the army. But they have to help. And that's whether you're a girl or a boy.
Ex British military, RE, iraq veteran, my children would be old enough but no brother , i would volunteer, in their place , 50 + , still stronger and fitter than most ✌
Fair enough Luke, good on you 🤙
I agree with everything you said God save the UK 🇬🇧 🙏
My comments are the truth . Romania and Europe with democracy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 nato is a joke 😂😂🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
I served for 27 years in the Army, I’d go back tomorrow, I’m sure they could find a job for a 68 year old!!
Yes mate, I’m definitely sure they could 👍
im 58 i had two knee replacements and i would 100% fight for my country only down side is im not actually sure what is happening to our country. is it ours anymore.
I am 65 & I would go in a heartbeat .
And would die in a heartbeat,modern war is unsurvivable look at the video's in Ukraine.
I’m 61 ex army
Definitely would be there to defend our nation
A conscientious objector is an "individual who has claimed the right to refuse to perform military service" on the grounds of freedom of conscience or religion. The term has also been extended to objecting to working for the military - industrial complex due to a crisis of conscience. In some countries, conscientious objectors are assigned to an alternative civilian service as a substitute for conscription or military service.
I would fight any country not for my government,but for my family so my legacy will continue on
Almost all men over 50 in Sweden have done military service
I mean joe is a left wing media the clips they took work in there favour I see better answers on other street interviews. I’ll admit I’d fight for country. But I would not fight for the political class if I was going to fight i fight on my terms sure for family and friends but I can’t bring myself to protect a political class that doesn’t care about us.
Joined in 1985 aged 16. Served and outside the Army and RHG/D I joined the NHS for 24 yrs.
Would I rejoin, if they’d take a 55 yr old guy then without shadow of a doubt I’d go. If it meant my kids and grandson didn’t need to fight then yeah .
I grew up in a generation where fighting was away of the school playground, no such thing as a WOKE culture etc.
🟦🟥🟦 and still proud and proud of this country. Duty and service are values I still hold.
i have heart probs and ill still try my best to sign up if needed
Sure I’m ready to serve so long as the politicians are leading the charge 😂
3:49 Can one not say [that we have already been invaded and when they have their numbers up, they will blow the whistle and kick off all at once?]?
I’m sorry but in this society you can not expect men to be conscripted to protect a nation which is being subjugated and freedoms being destroyed
I'm not a coward, give me something worth fighting for an I'll be first in line. But right now our country is in SHAMBLES, no doctors, no dentists, rapists roaming the streets, flooded with immigrants, ridiculous sentences....
Start treating us like humans again and maybe guys will be willing to fight again. Make those who are getting the resources fight for them.
Same in Germany...
Sad times mate
@@combatreadyhq Indeed!
This was started by Merkel.....she shd be taken to task.
I wouldn't piss on this country. I am looking to move back to the third world for a better standard of life.
Thank you for your Greeting from Ukraine!
My answer is yes I would fight for my country no doubt there .But would I fight for my government No .
If my home becomes a castle i would defend it without a doubt, my government can do one, they have done nothing for me apart from take take take, but I would stay in my own country and defend it to the best I could and yes I would give my life for my family and friends in a heartbeat
I would be interested to hear how the young ladies would respond to the same question. That might be very interesting.
Truth be told everyone wants to join the military when it’s fighting an enemy with no airforce, or at least an airforce that’s far outmatched & destroyed before ground troops are deployed, an enemy that has no chance at winning in direct battle, as has been the case since WW2, but todays threats are different, if it kicks off it will be real war, you won’t be able to just call in air support to rescue you when your pinned down, it will be brutal & many will be blown to pieces without even seeing the enemy, apart from WW2 survivors no living NATO soldier has seen real war, they’ve always fought against technologically far inferior enemies, always had the upper hand in terms of firepower massively, the youth these days see what’s happening in Ukraine despite all the advanced weapons Ukraine has been supplied with by NATO countries, they’re still losing on they’re home turf, a place where people fight the hardest but it ain’t working against the Russians, add to that the fact that modern western culture breeds selfish, weak minded soft lads that spend too much time in they’re bedrooms playing games & chatting away on social media there ain’t a chance in hell that they’d fair well in harsh conditions in a trench being bombarded with artillery, hell they’d have a mental breakdown from the cold wet weather sat in the mud, then add to that the fact that the youth have no prospects under this system, can’t afford they’re own home, find a decent partner to raise families with or even afford a family then where’s the motivation to fight for anything other than protecting the property & privileges of the rich minority whose kids won’t be on the front line with you but get some role back there where they’re safe because they’re family have connections. The country doesn’t serve the people anymore so what’s there to fight for? You can’t even defend yourself anymore effectively without being punished for it, common sense has gone out of the window, working hard no longer benefits a person, most youth today have nothing to fight for, they have no piece of the pie to lose, asking them to go get blown to smithereens overseas for nothing is senseless, & Russia ain’t trying to conquer Europe anyway, it’s operating in its own back yard & has no ability to stretch its power/military anywhere close to us, it doesn’t have the economy or capability to fight Europe, going to war with them is only to serve the rich minorities agenda as with most wars throughout history, most today are not brainwashed with that “patriotic” nonsense that previous generations were fooled with.
Would you send your son to fight?
If I'm called, then YES, i will do it.
I think we are living a too comfortable life for the youngsters to join, but when s*** Goes Down, they will join.
Well mate from one veteran to another there’s no way I’d go and fight for this country.
I gave everything I had to the service and conservatives made me redundant so no never again.
One thing I have learnt from Ukraine is politics is completely thrown out the window when you country is getting attacked and also very government has it issues and I dont think it good excuse to say, I don’t want to fight because there not enough money in the nhs or houses or whatever. None that stuff matters when the rockets raining down on your neighbours.
I suppose from listening to your views, you are appealing to old (ancient) values, and notions of masculinity and devotion to duties that have long been eroded or replaced by the brave new world. You have appealed to notions like Country, family, friends and respect. The previous two generations have been warped into accepting nationalism = racism, family = patriarchy, where more and more people are socially isolated, and where pop stars, social influencers and criminals are celebrated, and respect is catering to someone else's ego. We have radicals and maniacs being used to help strip away personal liberties and a government that has proven to be corrupt and that holds the average citizen in contempt, and who seem eager to strip us of our rights and our money. Basically, if I imagine how to demoralise and break a country without needing to go to war, then Modern Britain is how it looks...so I'm not surprised by the refusals to want to be jingoistic, brave saviours of their nations.
I think you are correct and maybe I am old fashioned and traditional who think we should stand up, fight and protect our loved ones. Thank you for the comment
You may well be right, but its still not correct. Why shd the military fight for those who will not!
@@emstirling-is4nu I'm willing to give that answer a go. So, beyond the obvious - it's the role they are paid for, why would they? Philosophically, they may hold the value "we protect those who cannot protect themselves" or some other ideal notion of duty and serving the nation, they might do it because they hear "the call", they may do it because it is their fellow members and real family that they are protecting (not the more abstract concept of "the people"), they do it because they are ordered to, they do so at the command of the king etc... Long story short, whatever ideals or stories that we tell ourselves, I don't think many of them are thinking too much about sacrificing themselves so that Michelle can continue watching Eastenders in peace (Or any other randoms living their lives) and most of them would likely consider the average citizen an absolute liability best used for busy work and maybe drawing out sniper fire. 😆 IDK - I guess we reap what we sow, and the disconnect from the average citizen and government and the many pillars of community has caused society to diverge too much.
@@combatreadyhqHow have we not got up and fought for our loved 1s the last few years attack after attack here at home ??
I'm ex army Royal engineers for 9 years and still serving in a different branch of the armed forces and the old Gentleman in comparison shows the mentality of a large proportion of the young fighting age British men today. It's shocking and shows the difference in generations attitude. Now days it's all about me and my problems and weak mentality it's embarrassing.
Hopefully if the time ever did come people's attitude would be changed by the threat of war in our doorstep and a large proportion of society would stand up to fight proudly and defend our nation.
Your not doing it for the politicians your doing it for the country you live in and and for yourself and your family because if you don't it doesn't end well.
Imagine if no one stood up in ww1 or against nazi Germany ww2 and let them roll us over which they would of 🤦.
Well said, thank you
This discussion is irrelevant: Britain won't be invaded by an armed force at least for centuries. In a WWIII scenario, nuclear weapons will be doing the damage, we won't need more military personnel than we currently have. There'd also be no time to induct, train and deploy conscripts. There's no bona fide reason for the military or govt to want to expand our forces unless they intend to send these troops overseas to fight/die for someone else's country and/or for UK corporate interests.
With the exception of the European campaign of WWII, ALL of Britain's wars since 1066 have been about empire and/or profitable interest. Profitable interest for the govt and their cronies, not even for the people.
I wouldn't fight for this country unless it's actually being invaded, IE armed enemy forces on mainland Britain. And then by MY way, not under formal military control. I despise and thoroughly distrust our deceitful and corrupt politicians and would never defend their right to rule over us nor would I defend their cronies. I served in the British Army for 7 years - and then and since saw so many well-meaning soldiers being criminally misused as well as sold out by these crooks. Those years in my regiment were the best years of my life - but I don't feel so proud about having served anymore, just proud to be Brethren when I meet other Airborne veterans.
No I'm not. I'm getting taken out by the people coming to force me.
The Muslim brothers in this country would have to fight along side us, together.
I’m joining the army but I’m not doing it for patriotic reasons. I’m joining because it’s a good career and experience and with the world spicing up could see good action in a few years
Fair enough and yes the way the world is you could get to go to a few places
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I would if I didn't have medical conditions that stops me from joining. Before anyone says BS my mum went to recruiters who had a tent up years ago and ask them when I grow up will the army accept me in with those medical conditions and they told her unfortunately no
I'm 31 f. I would fight. I'm not proud of this country tho, I'd only be doing it for my family & friends. I really enjoy the thrill of having a fight lol absolutely love it. Great video tho it's true at least you'd fight for your family...
What many forget is that people are needed to support those who are at the front with ammunition, food, transport, but I would do what I could for my country even though I have a broken back and more problems with my body. But I'm Swedish and thought of a song with what you said
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If there is a third world war it will go nuclear before conscripts could report for training. NATO does not have the conventional weapons or trained personnel especially NCOs to fight more than a few days without nukes.
I served in the 90s..I would go back without hesitation to defend this country, but sadly,I don't think that they would have me back because of my age,being 52..that said,I would try and lie about my age if I could get away with it😄🇬🇧👍