@@Charlie-o1r4p have you ever just sat back and listened to the sound a Rotorsaucer makes when you are booting up and performing safety checks? Have you ever also wondered if the global Public will get to experience them in this lifetime ?
6 months really? How long has Ukraine held out for now, and they don’t have British forces training or resources..another ploy to angle for more MoD funding from the taxpayers
@abcxyz2927 ukraine has the backing and support of nato who cant even produce artillery In a year that russia does in a month, they currently burn through 30k men a month and have an army of 1 million but are still loosing. Against half of the russian army.
Doubt anyone would bother a country without borders isn't a country Knowing this country while your off fighting they would move a migrant family into your council house
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Maybe try fighting back on home soil MIGHT make the difference between 100% cowardice and being a man and possibly regaining your homeland. But then, that would mean being brave, having to do something difficult and dangerous, and having a backbone instead of watching invaders kick a bag of wind around a patch of grass or hiding away while invaders destroy your women and children?
It’s far worse than that. Of the 72,000 only about 30% of those are combat troops, the remaining are logistics and support That gives you a fighting force of 20,000.
Funny how that was the same argument for Brexit. lol How long are you going to pull on that thread before you run out of sweater? As long as immigrants are coming to work and they getting jobs, then there are surplus jobs to be had. It's not taking jobs if native born people refuse to fill the positions.
@@alistairhackney what is one of those people? im just saying our land the uk should be for the british people not a foreign country --- a foreign country taking over the lands is a coup! and this is what has happened! as the country rns for the people or it should ideally
iam a vet of 15years royal engineers 70s and 80s talked to lads who have served in Afghanistan they said they always short of small arms ammo and had to ask Americans to give them some
So while we get invaded by the 3rd world with no defence of our borders, they expect us to go and die in a ditch abroad for a corrupt Ukraine not even in NATO, yeah think I'll pass on that tempting offer thanks.
If we lost around 500 men and a dozen tanks every day (which seems a reasonable assumption) the army would be gutted and retreating after a month! Assuming we even had the ammunition to fight a full on battle for that long.
At a rate of 500 a day, it wouldn't last a week. Let's also not forget the numbers of less capable soldiers that are actively recruited to meet quotas. How will they react when it becomes all too real?
life in the UK is a massive grind, everything is expensive, we struggle all year to (if we are lucky) buy 10 days in the sun. what would we be defending?
Wake up, Europe! The U.S. wants out of NATO! We, the American taxpayer, don’t want to support countries that despise us anymore. The good times for you are over. Time to pay your own way regarding defense.
A lot of boys now don’t even know if there a man or a woman never mind learning to fight. It’s a disgrace they went to take masculinity away from us men
How many Ghost soldiers are on the payroll list? of those 72K Only 40K are living, 30K are able, 10K are combat ready, (5K are infantry and 5K are officers with all invented ranks)
I’m sure it’s as bad, or worse, in the U.K. as it is in the U.S. today. We’ve had at least 50 years of male effeminization via social and media conduits. Western governments have spent at least as much time working to show their disdain and contempt for males of European descent. Yes, you can change laws and develop terribly punitive consequences for those who will not fight for you. Maybe you get your armies. But what will those armies function like? The Rus’ and their meat waves? All I’m saying is the west is in a major pickle right now. Just look at the recruitment stats for the U.S. military over the last decade. The pop is spent after a 20+ year loss on a foreign war that was really just trying to give them woman and gender rights. The pop has no cohesiveness like we had 1940. We now have the proverbial Tower of Babel.
They snnuck in the small print of "as part of a wider force" which the media is ignoring and pretending we could fight Russia on our own for 6 months, indeed we'd be lucky to last 6 weeks on our own.
6 weeks in ideal circumstance but realisticly could the ROAC supply them and what with ??. I hear 72 hours a lot and germany said they had 24 to 48 hours. Russia throws more missiles in a week than we own. We need diplomats not soldiers.
We have been put back to the beginning of the second world war when the British Expeditionary Force were defeated and had to be withdrawn at Dunkirk. Why don't politicians learn ?
Because people don’t know their history. If they did they would understand why Russia is doing this and why they will pay any price needed to ensure victory.
You forget the first world war where our regular forces were finally wiped out at first battle of Ypres then had to bring in conscription. Also we had run out of artillery shells by early 1915 until Lloyd George put in charge of armaments built new factories across Britain so all this isn't new. Sadly Britain is always unprepared for wars even fighting the Zulus.
I would say this is very true. We are not even able to stop flimsy rubber boats invading our shores? so how could we possibly stand up against a hardened enemy force of tanks and troops?
There wont be many tanks in the 2nd Pacific War, that's why the US marines have got rid of most of theirs in favour of smaller more nimble arnoured vehicles.
@@Tourist1967 Yeah thousands of unknown fighting age men breaking through our borders is not an invasion, and the Manchester Arena was culturally enriched by not an explosion according to you I suppose?
We're literally a sitting duck at this point in time, we've set ourselves on the back foot. The sustained depletion of forces and pc 'pussification' of society is effectively complete. Even a relatively small scale coordinated conventional attack against the British Isles, against radar sites, communications, energy, bridges, food supply etc would wreak MAJOR havoc and we simply won't have an effective answer. Tell me I'm wrong
And who's attacking? By you logic everyone's gone "woke" even look at Russia they lost huge numbers of intelligence people who would be drafted as they don't want to fight an unjust war. Those that have been brought into fight are just cannon fodder for professional soldiers. So maybe the war is online then, in which case we have more worriers than most.
Six months hes having laugh. Isnt he meant tobe the expert? The British Army wouldn't last two months. Amateur war buff but I know I am right. 6 months is a joke.
@@audreyhall6470 Morale is always contingent on circumstances. We can never know with any great confidence how individuals or a population will respond to a novel situation. Ukraine is a prime example.
Your absolutely right he was being overly optimistic, because if Russia has a 10 to 1 artillery count and they're losing 1,500 soldiers a week,then Ukraine has to be losing over 2,000 based on rate of fire,so at over 2,000 being generous the UK would barely last a month
@@heycidskyja4668 LOL those are American figures. neither side publishes casualty figures and anyone who has ever read a vietnam history book knows just how "real" american enemy casualty figures are.
You mean like the Ghurkhas? Men who have done more for this country by the time they've had breakfast than you would ever do in your entire miserable life.
"AINT GONNA FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY" But you'd want the people you despise to go and fight for it on your behalf? DEI ? What do you mean? Ethnic minorities and women? That would only show they have far, far, far more worth than you.
Back in the day, I as a soldier in the Parachute regiment, attached to a unit with a specific job to do in the event the Soviets invaded West Germany, was told in such an event we would have at max a ten day life expectancy. We were also told to make sure that we didn't fall into Soviet hands under any circumstances. The war in Ukraine has bought this last advice into very sharp focus. :( As for the army now, it simply does not have enough mass or heavy equipment to fight a Russian army fighting in the way they are fighting in Ukraine. We don't have anywhere near enough air defence, artillery (tube and rocket), I could go on. This is why it is in the UK's interest to stop Russia in Ukraine by helping the Ukranians with equipment, ammunition etc.
It's in the best interest for the war to stop now. Not to keep arming a war that's been a stalemate for over a year. Neither side can win now. Both are losing the same attrition rates except the West Media only covers Russian losses. The war is mute. NATO and the USA caused it too.
@@creech847 Because a section of the population grows up playing with plastic soldiers, comic books and living past wars in their heads. It makes them incapable of properly assessing contemporary events and the mushy reality of their leaders decision-making. You can see this in the BBC - they run out the talking points of WW2 and try to make them fit current circumstances ... they literally have no idea and no point of reference other than a History Book.
The "Peace" dividened does not last forever , a Roman once said if you want peace prepare for war , stop giving stuff away we will need the damn stuff ???
It's about time to hand out uniforms to every refugee and turn them to soldiers of the UK. after all this was the plan. When was the last time the UK had a head count parade of army? Let them be visible and show to us that those 72K exist.
I think General David is right, only because it’s hard not to conclude the US has given the Ukrainians enough to survive and degrade the Russians, but not enough to win. That’s a choice, not of timidity but of strategy.
The joke in the states is that instead of universal health care we got stealth bombers and 13 nuclear aircraft carriers. The UK has a proud military history, but it seems that now sustaining that force is not a budget priority. Not judging their choice, because I don't understand UK politics. Here we are so used to spending so much on the military it generally isn't even questioned by the larger public opinion.
Dumbest comment ever. Nobody pays a penny "into NATO". For that matter, the USA has vastly reduced its European defence spending to the point that they are delinquent in their NATO obligations. The US military is too thinly spread on the ground.
News flash (not really but come on): The 2% GDP spending is a suggestion, not a mandatory requirement. And currently only countries spending less than 2 % is Croatia, Spain, Portugal. Italy, Luxenburg, Belgium, Slovenia and Canada.
How to say I don’t know what the EU is without saying so. NATO membership and EU membership are completely separate thing and the EU is not in NATO. There are European countries that are in in NATO but not in the EU, ie the UK, Turkey, Norway and there are EU Members that are not in NATO, ie Austria and until Putin started acting up in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden were in EU but not NATO.
Someone should tell France and Germany that it's not 0.3%, but 3%. Why should Brits die so they can get their country back after being invaded. Lazy blighters!
Also the NHS wouldn't be able to cope with the huge casualties, plus whose going to go & fight for a country where them at the very top don't care for the peasants?!?!?!?
No the Russians thought the Ukrainians were a pushover, 1000 days later most of the trained Russian forces are gone, they just keep sending bodies to be shot.
He is so generous. Depends on war with whom? If war with some real power i doubt British army can survive for 6 days . I mean war with country like Russia.
But the other day an army representative said they would be ready to fight tomorrow...whats the point if you cant fill a premium league football stadium
Prior to 2000 the Royal Navy had over 60 combat surface vessels, today we have what 12? Two of thise are Aircraft carriers with zero support combat vessels. The Government is guilty of hubris and living on the reputation of the past. Six months is a massive over estimate for our armies survival rate, we have cut corners in all areas the same as with the NHS and all of our utility services - apply the state of the NHS to the armed forces and you will get some idea of how badly prepared we are today.
um...You know WW2 was nearly a hundred years ago right? Nobody from that generation is kicking about anymore, So I don't know who you think you're talking about.
Why is the US demanding that Ukrsine lower the conscription age down to 18 years old? Where did all rhe Ukrainian soldiers gone, if they ate killing sooooooo many Russians ever day?
You don’t agree NATO AUKUS attempting to start hostilities ?? Stop supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine Now and what will happen tomorrow ??? Peace ☮️ Yeah . Andrej Kondisenko Cairns Australia 🇦🇺
Why do you need an army ....we,ve already been invaded ! As a veteran this government can forget calling me up as a reservist I wouldnt lift a teaspoon up to fight on their behalf. When Two Tier Starmer told me that if Im not happy with his decisions the " door is open and I can leave " I will. As someone who had top secret clearance not only for the british army but also the US army Id rather back Russia. I cant wait to see what " woke" looks like in the trenches facing the enemy in battle !
Why would our soldiers now fight for this country which is full of thousands of illegal foreigners. Our past soldiers would be angry if they could see what is happening in our country. This government has caused this feeling. To put your life on the line to help save these foreigners who are here but who actually hate us, it's madness.
So if Russia is losing 1500 a day, imagine Ukraine losses as Russia has 10-14 times more artillery, missiles and 1500 glide bombs a month dropping on them.
Apparently when the Suez canal crisis was at it's height, the estimated time of UK forces to keep fighting against a Russian invasion force would be somewhere between 3 days and 3 weeks...and this was 1956. This was eleven years after WW2, when I am pretty sure we had more men (and women) in uniform then.
For goodness sake, it wouldn't take the Russians 6 months, it'd be 6 weeks! The Brits keep taking themselves too seriously, thinks too highly of their capability, even mighty US have to think twice before engaging Russia in a hot war. Russia is in it for the long term, they already had 2 years of real training in UKR!!!
Ex Gunner - And this is a surprise to no one. We bought 14 of the Archers system to fill a gap in the Army's 155mm Close Support capability after the UK sent 32 AS90 self-propelled guns to Ukraine.
You guys pay the lowest taxes per person out of any g7 country, look it up. We pay federal tax, state tax, income tax, residential tax, land tax, sales tax, and more in the US. Plus health insurance. The average income here is $37k but thats before taxes. When it comes to defense, the uk says "the US will help us" so its like our taxes ensuring your safety. Nato is supposed to be countries in a partnership, not countries dependent on another. Nobody is willing to invest in their own security. The only issue everyone cares about is the nhs, thats all i hear. (Because i care to read about it, the news doesnt mention uk affairs whatsoever) I dont think you guys understand how big of an issue this is, im pro uk & our cooperation is important but its even frustrating to me. However, many people here dont gaf about the uk, politicians included, and very realistically wouldnt help you in a conflict. We dont need your millitary or weapons, you have no production capacity, patriotism is low, will to fight is non existent, your vulnerable to blockade once again, etc. Many people dont see the value in our relationship or think its vital. Its inexcusable to plan further cuts to the millitary in 2025 considering the conflict in the world. Nobody seems to understand the feeling in the US right now is isolation, and you cant blame them. Its easier to justify cooperation when both sides bring assets to the table. Despite trumps statements, & likely inevitable plans, despite the constant warnings from your military & intelligence officials, nothing changes. Im afraid Your very likely to be in for a rough surprise if russia attacked you & its disappointing. Its not earn like your citizens could form impromptu millitias like in the us, because everyone has atleast 1 gun here, if not many more. But atleast you have the nhs right?
where do you get the figure of 1500 russians being killed each day from ? All information available points to Ukrainians being losing large numbers with a lot of desertions as well ......
Just western propaganda buddy. Cant believe anything they say these days. They say russia is losing 1500 troops a day yet Biden and Blinken are the ones crying to reduce the conscription age from 25 to 18 in Ukraine. I wonder why ??? Meanwhile Russia still call this a Special military operation, not war and didnt even start drafting.
Several independent sources confirm this. Whatever number Ukraine has, triple or quadruple that for russia, their meat wave tactics are not exactly a secret.
This is God’s earth and doesn’t ‘belong to any lunatic. All life is sacred and not to squander for egotistical maniacs. Eyar how about you all just like GROW UP!
@ 😂 makes me so mad. My sons serve in the UK Army (not really an army but a defence force as we’re too small in number) so makes my blood boil they’re so quick to throw our sons/daughters to this bs. Coming from a military family, my dad was SAS and 6 uncles RAF (all sadly now passed) they’d be fuming too. 😬🫶
"Manpower" ? I hope you meant "Person Power" ? "Enhance the reserve forces..." Good luck with that. They will have gone to ground well before hand. Such a pile of BS from the Army and these armchair generals.
Reserves would need time to get refreshing training, be equipped before being sent over, these people think the reserves can just be chucked into the fight without any refreshment training first?
Ruzzia has them though. Many many carry that mark on their bodies and we have seen them. They are the ones who commit crimes against their own as well as Ukrainians.
Sooner, the British Army of August 1914 suffered 100% casualties by December. They were recalling former servicemen who hadn't worn a uniform in years and sending them to the front with no training.
Hot Tip!: If you are looking for veterans there are thousands sleeping rough on the streets of London.
Exactly. Well said
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@R.EGrantham the fastest growing group of homeless vets are female
Six months!
It's a 1 shot wonder now.
Enough gear for a few days.
It's treason that has caused this.
70 main battle tanks - would last two weeks..
But the treasonous hold all the power
@@Charlie-o1r4p have you ever just sat back and listened to the sound a Rotorsaucer makes when you are booting up and performing safety checks? Have you ever also wondered if the global Public will get to experience them in this lifetime ?
6 months really?
How long has Ukraine held out for now, and they don’t have British forces training or resources..another ploy to angle for more MoD funding from the taxpayers
@abcxyz2927 ukraine has the backing and support of nato who cant even produce artillery In a year that russia does in a month, they currently burn through 30k men a month and have an army of 1 million but are still loosing. Against half of the russian army.
Why would the backbone of our armed forces, British working class lads, bother fighting these days?
Doubt anyone would bother a country without borders isn't a country
Knowing this country while your off fighting they would move a migrant family into your council house
The enemy is and still is brought ashore here, by westminster.
Andrew and Michael would be fighting Ivan and probably dying to keep Ahmed and Mohammad in their local hotel - nothing worth fighting for!
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Maybe try fighting back on home soil MIGHT make the difference between 100% cowardice and being a man and possibly regaining your homeland. But then, that would mean being brave, having to do something difficult and dangerous, and having a backbone instead of watching invaders kick a bag of wind around a patch of grass or hiding away while invaders destroy your women and children?
Conscription, that's why.
It’s far worse than that. Of the 72,000 only about 30% of those are combat troops, the remaining are logistics and support That gives you a fighting force of 20,000.
The standard is poor compared to what it was as well
@@billyhalliday9811 Sounds like we have lost before we have started 😂
That's a stretch. Wouldn't even call it a defence force let alone a fighting farce
The first day on the Somme.... 20,000 dead, 40,000 wounded...... Figure those numbers....
@@Addad66 Depends if the populace would gladly be conscripted in war
This country can't even control it's Borders.
It can. Kier Starmer has stated it was a deliberate experiment run by the last government. It's a choice.
obviously when there are fresh off the boat 🤣😂
@@clementihammock7572 Division bots or just hateful dyslexics?
Funny how that was the same argument for Brexit. lol
How long are you going to pull on that thread before you run out of sweater?
As long as immigrants are coming to work and they getting jobs, then there are surplus jobs to be had.
It's not taking jobs if native born people refuse to fill the positions.
totally unrelated post there
Blame the regime in No. 10
uk died 20 years ago ! we serve israel! so we need to fight for our own land before claiming to be uk
@LolaSmith-ow6ie ah, you're one of those people...
ah, you're one of those people...
@@jcal258 ermm, what? A person with a valid point, yes i am
@@alistairhackney what is one of those people? im just saying our land the uk should be for the british people not a foreign country --- a foreign country taking over the lands is a coup! and this is what has happened! as the country rns for the people or it should ideally
Politicians should stand at the front line.
royals & lords too,
Tell that to Putin, never seen him visit the actual frontline
Definitely agree on that one
@@nemaproblema6879 He was in the KGB so he probably put his life on the line for his country. just as our spies do daily
iam a vet of 15years royal engineers 70s and 80s talked to lads who have served in Afghanistan they said they always short of small arms ammo and had to ask Americans to give them some
As a nation of dog lovers, our vets are highly respected.
REspect
They called us the borrowers lol
So while we get invaded by the 3rd world with no defence of our borders, they expect us to go and die in a ditch abroad for a corrupt Ukraine not even in NATO, yeah think I'll pass on that tempting offer thanks.
yanks call the brit army 'the borrowers'
We’re not fighting for a this country anymore are u mad 😂 how many men passed away in ww2 ? And for what? Look at the state of the place now
you type in English without errors, not in German. It's not so bad
Not 6 months, it would be much shorter
That dude is extremely optimistic, give it 6 hours.
British army veteran's are sleeping in doorways while 20,000 enemy forces have arrived under two tier watch put in hotels feed and paid
If we lost around 500 men and a dozen tanks every day (which seems a reasonable assumption) the army would be gutted and retreating after a month! Assuming we even had the ammunition to fight a full on battle for that long.
But do tbe Russians ? They seem to be struggling to beat the Ukranians
The British army never retreats - it tactically withdrawal's.
At a rate of 500 a day, it wouldn't last a week.
Let's also not forget the numbers of less capable soldiers that are actively recruited to meet quotas. How will they react when it becomes all too real?
Who are we fighting?
Because anyone except the US and China we'd be in the same situation as them so it would be very much light skirmishes.
@TheWebstaff Russia, lad.
life in the UK is a massive grind, everything is expensive, we struggle all year to (if we are lucky) buy 10 days in the sun. what would we be defending?
We're fine, we have huge reserves of woke nationalists to support us..this country has never been safer.
The object of WOKE is not to harm anyone, sounds all right to me.
That won't help when they enemy is not 'woke'
@@frankjaeger9068 Exactly.
@@creech847 Tell that to your family when the enemy is kicking in your door.
@@creech847It won’t be much use when an opposing soldier had an AK47 targeted at you. Your Call of Duty score won’t be admissible…
Wake up, Europe! The U.S. wants out of NATO! We, the American taxpayer, don’t want to support countries that despise us anymore. The good times for you are over. Time to pay your own way regarding defense.
Oh no, your not gonna wait until near the end to join in are you? Ooo.....Deja Vue! Only joking, I loved my time in Maine!
We may not show up next time
We swapped 2 years of National Service for 3 years of University. We're all keyboard warriors now!
lol
anti-intellectualism isn't the answer.
A lot of boys now don’t even know if there a man or a woman never mind learning to fight. It’s a disgrace they went to take masculinity away from us men
How many Ghost soldiers are on the payroll list? of those 72K Only 40K are living, 30K are able, 10K are combat ready, (5K are infantry and 5K are officers with all invented ranks)
😁 SAS and SBS will be logitech mouse?
But we will win the most diverse army and I'm constantly told that's more important.
Those Trans Troops are truly terrifying
@@brianlopez8855I can only cringe at what would happen when told to be on parade in full battle dress.
Camo'd Lilly Savage😂
@@brianlopez8855Remember the first foot and mouth
This isn't a culture war issue simpletons.
@@StringaBell17 oh dear someone hit a nerve 🤣
2 weeks, according to NATO chief of staff
Just 2 more weeks ?
It’s gonna be real hard to get your English males to fight for you.
No..in war refusal should carry a military capital sentence
@@nigelsmith2044 Hmmm... when was that last the case? 17thC perhaps?
Under a new model.of mobilisation it can be re introduced
@@nigelsmith2044OK get over their
I’m sure it’s as bad, or worse, in the U.K. as it is in the U.S. today. We’ve had at least 50 years of male effeminization via social and media conduits. Western governments have spent at least as much time working to show their disdain and contempt for males of European descent.
Yes, you can change laws and develop terribly punitive consequences for those who will not fight for you. Maybe you get your armies. But what will those armies function like? The Rus’ and their meat waves?
All I’m saying is the west is in a major pickle right now. Just look at the recruitment stats for the U.S. military over the last decade. The pop is spent after a 20+ year loss on a foreign war that was really just trying to give them woman and gender rights. The pop has no cohesiveness like we had 1940. We now have the proverbial Tower of Babel.
6 months is overstimation, 6 weeks is max.
True
They snnuck in the small print of "as part of a wider force" which the media is ignoring and pretending we could fight Russia on our own for 6 months, indeed we'd be lucky to last 6 weeks on our own.
Absolutely
6 weeks in ideal circumstance but realisticly could the ROAC supply them and what with ??. I hear 72 hours a lot and germany said they had 24 to 48 hours. Russia throws more missiles in a week than we own. We need diplomats not soldiers.
We have been put back to the beginning of the second world war when the British Expeditionary Force were defeated and had to be withdrawn at Dunkirk.
Why don't politicians learn ?
War with, who, we are surrounded by allies.
The threat to Britain, is air and sea not land.
Because people don’t know their history. If they did they would understand why Russia is doing this and why they will pay any price needed to ensure victory.
Because they're much more interested in making electorally useful and paltry tax cuts and pursuing voter-friendly white elephants.
That's very important. UK politicians still dream of the 19 th century great empire. They forget they lost to goat herders in Afghanistan in Aug 2021
You forget the first world war where our regular forces were finally wiped out at first battle of Ypres then had to bring in conscription. Also we had run out of artillery shells by early 1915 until Lloyd George put in charge of armaments built new factories across Britain so all this isn't new. Sadly Britain is always unprepared for wars even fighting the Zulus.
This Labour gov can fight their own wars I wouldn’t give my life for this country I have seen the way others who gave their lives are disrespected .
really every 11th Nov i see the country respect those who have served
@@dazronch5450 You are no doubt, old, unfit and past serving anyway.
ordinary people across the world want to live in peace
I would say this is very true. We are not even able to stop flimsy rubber boats invading our shores? so how could we possibly stand up against a hardened enemy force of tanks and troops?
There wont be many tanks in the 2nd Pacific War, that's why the US marines have got rid of most of theirs in favour of smaller more nimble arnoured vehicles.
It's not an invasion. Not even close. A Home Office immigration matter. Not the MoD's problem. The military have more serious things to worry about.
A resource of personnel for us or against us in any future war? Very unsure.
@@daveg9341well that's the 8 million pound a day question..
@@Tourist1967 Yeah thousands of unknown fighting age men breaking through our borders is not an invasion, and the Manchester Arena was culturally enriched by not an explosion according to you I suppose?
The British army only has 72,000 troops? Thats shocking.
We're literally a sitting duck at this point in time, we've set ourselves on the back foot. The sustained depletion of forces and pc 'pussification' of society is effectively complete. Even a relatively small scale coordinated conventional attack against the British Isles, against radar sites, communications, energy, bridges, food supply etc would wreak MAJOR havoc and we simply won't have an effective answer. Tell me I'm wrong
Thanks, well said
And who's attacking?
By you logic everyone's gone "woke" even look at Russia they lost huge numbers of intelligence people who would be drafted as they don't want to fight an unjust war.
Those that have been brought into fight are just cannon fodder for professional soldiers.
So maybe the war is online then, in which case we have more worriers than most.
And who is in he position o conduct such an attack?
Six months hes having laugh. Isnt he meant tobe the expert? The British Army wouldn't last two months. Amateur war buff but I know I am right. 6 months is a joke.
How long did you predict for Ukraine?
@@luzr6613
A demoralised public will not fight for that.
@@audreyhall6470 Morale is always contingent on circumstances. We can never know with any great confidence how individuals or a population will respond to a novel situation. Ukraine is a prime example.
Ukraine is quite a national chauvinistic country by all accounts and Abdul and Mohammed aren't streaming in in droves
Your absolutely right he was being overly optimistic, because if Russia has a 10 to 1 artillery count and they're losing 1,500 soldiers a week,then Ukraine has to be losing over 2,000 based on rate of fire,so at over 2,000 being generous the UK would barely last a month
British army is severely deteoriated, UK just doesn't know it. Ships, arms, aircraft, personnel is short supply.
6 months? Try 30 days in the Russo/Ukrainian war. GB can only field about 10,000 competent ground pounders.
1500 russians a day?
British propaganda is so much over inflated.
It's actually over 2000 a day now.
@@heycidskyja4668 Ukrops yeah, soon to be a lot of Ukie 18+ year olds once Blinken gets his way
@@heycidskyja4668 Where is the evidence of this?
@@heycidskyja4668 who's your source?
@@heycidskyja4668 LOL those are American figures. neither side publishes casualty figures and anyone who has ever read a vietnam history book knows just how "real" american enemy casualty figures are.
First truth i have heard from this station about our Army. British veteran.
WE AINT GONNA FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY...CALL UP ALL THE DEI
You mean like the Ghurkhas? Men who have done more for this country by the time they've had breakfast than you would ever do in your entire miserable life.
uk died 20 years ago -- we serve iisrael -- so we need to get our own lands back first
@@LolaSmith-ow6ie🙄
"AINT GONNA FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY"
But you'd want the people you despise to go and fight for it on your behalf?
DEI ? What do you mean? Ethnic minorities and women?
That would only show they have far, far, far more worth than you.
Tosh!
Makes you wonder at what point the UK population will wake up and show some interest?
Are you lot not exposing how the British would be reaching for the nuclear button far quicker than Russia.
I suspect those who have an interest in that will have worked this out already....
Politically the UK is heading for Military Inadequacy - WHO KNEW - Politicians are ASLEEP, ASLEEP, ASLEEP 😢😢😢😢😢
Back in the day, I as a soldier in the Parachute regiment, attached to a unit with a specific job to do in the event the Soviets invaded West Germany, was told in such an event we would have at max a ten day life expectancy.
We were also told to make sure that we didn't fall into Soviet hands under any circumstances.
The war in Ukraine has bought this last advice into very sharp focus. :(
As for the army now, it simply does not have enough mass or heavy equipment to fight a Russian army fighting in the way they are fighting in Ukraine. We don't have anywhere near enough air defence, artillery (tube and rocket), I could go on.
This is why it is in the UK's interest to stop Russia in Ukraine by helping the Ukranians with equipment, ammunition etc.
It's in the best interest for the war to stop now. Not to keep arming a war that's been a stalemate for over a year. Neither side can win now. Both are losing the same attrition rates except the West Media only covers Russian losses. The war is mute. NATO and the USA caused it too.
About a thousand people are dying or seriously injured a week, why would you want more?
@@creech847 Because a section of the population grows up playing with plastic soldiers, comic books and living past wars in their heads. It makes them incapable of properly assessing contemporary events and the mushy reality of their leaders decision-making. You can see this in the BBC - they run out the talking points of WW2 and try to make them fit current circumstances ... they literally have no idea and no point of reference other than a History Book.
Please provide the first four digits of your service number and the year you served?
@@user-ic5cc8um4s Why should I. :)
The "Peace" dividened does not last forever , a Roman once said if you want peace prepare for war , stop giving stuff away we will need the damn stuff ???
Stop giving it away? They're fighting the war so you don't have to.
Awful lot of people here keen to volunteer up someone elses kid to go and fight their war for them...
Hot Tip. If you are looking for the veterans you will find thousands of them homeless on the streets of London.
1500 russians every day😮 where is the evidence for that. So, has russian lost well over a million men since Feb 2022? I'm just curious.
No way would they last 6 months.
The British army was pretty much done post the first battle of the Marne. By mid 1915 about 80% of The BEF were either wounded or dead.
and the BAOR was expected to last less than a week
Well let’s not get involved in any more wars then.
That seems like a very sensible suggestion
that's very naive
@@Ciarananthonymitchell844😂 he was being sarcastic.
@@seanmclean3028 I fail to see the flaw in her/his argument.
It's about time to hand out uniforms to every refugee and turn them to soldiers of the UK. after all this was the plan. When was the last time the UK had a head count parade of army? Let them be visible and show to us that those 72K exist.
@@mlikely72apart from the fact that we are a part of NATO and the fact that Putin is a direct threat to us, apart from that no problem
But 77th Brigade will put down their keyboards and fight? Right? Right?
What's the preoccupation with the 77th brigade?
@@heycidskyja4668 They're the best this country can offer. Like super ninjas.
I think General David is right, only because it’s hard not to conclude the US has given the Ukrainians enough to survive and degrade the Russians, but not enough to win. That’s a choice, not of timidity but of strategy.
If true - it’s evil - and it’s been the policy of the Biden Administration
The joke in the states is that instead of universal health care we got stealth bombers and 13 nuclear aircraft carriers. The UK has a proud military history, but it seems that now sustaining that force is not a budget priority. Not judging their choice, because I don't understand UK politics. Here we are so used to spending so much on the military it generally isn't even questioned by the larger public opinion.
Plus...how many politicians have even STEPPED on a parade square...let alone SERVED "their" country....??
EU has not been paying their Fair share into NATO
Dumbest comment ever. Nobody pays a penny "into NATO". For that matter, the USA has vastly reduced its European defence spending to the point that they are delinquent in their NATO obligations. The US military is too thinly spread on the ground.
News flash (not really but come on): The 2% GDP spending is a suggestion, not a mandatory requirement. And currently only countries spending less than 2 % is Croatia, Spain, Portugal. Italy, Luxenburg, Belgium, Slovenia and Canada.
How to say I don’t know what the EU is without saying so. NATO membership and EU membership are completely separate thing and the EU is not in NATO. There are European countries that are in in NATO but not in the EU, ie the UK, Turkey, Norway and there are EU Members that are not in NATO, ie Austria and until Putin started acting up in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden were in EU but not NATO.
Shut up you Trump melt! 😂You’ve no idea
Someone should tell France and Germany that it's not 0.3%, but 3%. Why should Brits die so they can get their country back after being invaded. Lazy blighters!
Less than 20 thousand infantry 😮
Also the NHS wouldn't be able to cope with the huge casualties, plus whose going to go & fight for a country where them at the very top don't care for the peasants?!?!?!?
All the Integrity initiative journalists are welcomed to fight on the front line on my behalf. Good luck!
stop insisting we go to war then
Don't expect the yanks to help you this time you've been too rude about them over the years
They are the problem, they started the coup in 2014 that caused this war.
Well 120 operational tanks, 24 attack helicopters...and plenty fish and chips 😂
Basically, the Russians weren't the pushover you thought they were.
No the Russians thought the Ukrainians were a pushover, 1000 days later most of the trained Russian forces are gone, they just keep sending bodies to be shot.
He is so generous. Depends on war with whom?
If war with some real power i doubt British army can survive for 6 days . I mean war with country like Russia.
The UK can still whip Russia easily.
uk died 20 years ago ! we serve israel! so we need to fight for our own land before claiming to be uk
@@DomLab-g2nLol, with what? Hope that's a joke because it takes great deal of delusion to believe that
Don't worry Hamsa, you won't be required to join.
@@OnyedikaGabriel-un3gm Russia can't handle Ukraine.
But the other day an army representative said they would be ready to fight tomorrow...whats the point if you cant fill a premium league football stadium
We Argentines are taking note from the corner😂🇦🇷🇫🇰
Don't worry - we still have Girl Guides to send
Prior to 2000 the Royal Navy had over 60 combat surface vessels, today we have what 12? Two of thise are Aircraft carriers with zero support combat vessels. The Government is guilty of hubris and living on the reputation of the past. Six months is a massive over estimate for our armies survival rate, we have cut corners in all areas the same as with the NHS and all of our utility services - apply the state of the NHS to the armed forces and you will get some idea of how badly prepared we are today.
Hence why all the memorials to WW2 pop up as an escapist jingoism
anyone who thinks any veteran would fight for them is deluded. many have cast medals away, many won't fight against their ally from ww2.
um...You know WW2 was nearly a hundred years ago right?
Nobody from that generation is kicking about anymore, So I don't know who you think you're talking about.
uk died 20 years ago ! we serve israel! so we need to fight for our own land before claiming to be uk
Only an ally of convenience and that lasted barely 3 years.
Why is the US demanding that Ukrsine lower the conscription age down to 18 years old? Where did all rhe Ukrainian soldiers gone, if they ate killing sooooooo many Russians ever day?
That long?? Are you kidding??! 2 weeks at most, Russia is not our enemy, wake up people nato are trying to start ww3
traitor, you and rest need to leave
Ivan your posts are all over TH-cam 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
You don’t agree NATO AUKUS attempting to start hostilities ?? Stop supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine Now and what will happen tomorrow ??? Peace ☮️ Yeah . Andrej Kondisenko Cairns Australia 🇦🇺
Why do you need an army ....we,ve already been invaded !
As a veteran this government can forget calling me up as a reservist I wouldnt lift a teaspoon up to fight on their behalf. When Two Tier Starmer told me that if Im not happy with his decisions the " door is open and I can leave " I will. As someone who had top secret clearance not only for the british army but also the US army Id rather back Russia. I cant wait to see what " woke" looks like in the trenches facing the enemy in battle !
Good luck recalling regular reservists. Most of them will refuse to die for Starmer and Co.
Why would our soldiers now fight for this country which is full of thousands of illegal foreigners. Our past soldiers would be angry if they could see what is happening in our country. This government has caused this feeling. To put your life on the line to help save these foreigners who are here but who actually hate us, it's madness.
So if Russia is losing 1500 a day, imagine Ukraine losses as Russia has 10-14 times more artillery, missiles and 1500 glide bombs a month dropping on them.
Ukraine are losing atleast 10 times less. They are a professional army after all.
😂😂😂 @@jungle486
No Ivan Ukraine is defending, anyone with a brain knows that attackers lose more men against dug in defensive positions.
@thegoat11111 Ukraine is running away in most cases they've captured no territory in the Donbass all year.
@ailinofaolin8897 They're inside russia now. 🔥
The British army doesn't have enough ammunition to find a peer-level war for six weeks, let alone six months.
Meanwhile Russia increases its Military to 1.5 million 😂. Who do you think you are kidding Mr Starmer 😂
They cant win in Ukraine, they dont have the resources, the GDP to go through Europe to get to the UK
Apparently when the Suez canal crisis was at it's height, the estimated time of UK forces to keep fighting against a Russian invasion force would be somewhere between 3 days and 3 weeks...and this was 1956. This was eleven years after WW2, when I am pretty sure we had more men (and women) in uniform then.
We don't produce anything any more so that's the way the army is going down, down, we could loose everthing.😢😢😢😢
You just need to apply for Statehood and stop pretending you are responsible adults.
Fine. Let's raise taxes to fund the army and the NHS. Let's see how well that goes down.
Don't forget Net Zero. Can't fight wars without Net Zero.
I can make £5.5 billion of savings to put into our armed forces immediately.
It's easy to track down x service personal, you can find most of them in doorways and probably in hospital suffering mental issues.
For goodness sake, it wouldn't take the Russians 6 months, it'd be 6 weeks!
The Brits keep taking themselves too seriously, thinks too highly of their capability, even mighty US have to think twice before engaging Russia in a hot war. Russia is in it for the long term, they already had 2 years of real training in UKR!!!
Totally irrelevant really. The UK is never going to war alone. We're in an alliance of 32 countries and 3.5 million troops.
We did in Falklands...
Sadly not. All so called allieds are broke and unable to pay any bills
Very brave fighting 32 v 1? Learn from your humiliation against Afghanistan ffs.
@@stevec6232usa saved you
Do you remember the West during Covid years? Every country helped only itselth😁😁😁
Ex Gunner - And this is a surprise to no one. We bought 14 of the Archers system to fill a gap in the Army's 155mm Close Support capability after the UK sent 32 AS90 self-propelled guns to Ukraine.
Get stuffed, once out we ain’t coming back in! Why would we fight for this corrupt Labour Govt?
Oh, like in Dunkirk, you mean?
You guys pay the lowest taxes per person out of any g7 country, look it up. We pay federal tax, state tax, income tax, residential tax, land tax, sales tax, and more in the US. Plus health insurance. The average income here is $37k but thats before taxes.
When it comes to defense, the uk says "the US will help us" so its like our taxes ensuring your safety. Nato is supposed to be countries in a partnership, not countries dependent on another.
Nobody is willing to invest in their own security. The only issue everyone cares about is the nhs, thats all i hear. (Because i care to read about it, the news doesnt mention uk affairs whatsoever)
I dont think you guys understand how big of an issue this is, im pro uk & our cooperation is important but its even frustrating to me. However, many people here dont gaf about the uk, politicians included, and very realistically wouldnt help you in a conflict.
We dont need your millitary or weapons, you have no production capacity, patriotism is low, will to fight is non existent, your vulnerable to blockade once again, etc. Many people dont see the value in our relationship or think its vital.
Its inexcusable to plan further cuts to the millitary in 2025 considering the conflict in the world. Nobody seems to understand the feeling in the US right now is isolation, and you cant blame them. Its easier to justify cooperation when both sides bring assets to the table. Despite trumps statements, & likely inevitable plans, despite the constant warnings from your military & intelligence officials, nothing changes.
Im afraid Your very likely to be in for a rough surprise if russia attacked you & its disappointing. Its not earn like your citizens could form impromptu millitias like in the us, because everyone has atleast 1 gun here, if not many more. But atleast you have the nhs right?
As a Brit and a veteran well said mate , everything you said is on point 👏👍
6 minutes more like.most of the air bases have been closed for a start...
6 minutes? Don't stand near me then when it all kicks off!
We have never in our history had a large Army ! Navy and Air Forces are the most important for an island nation !
Russia saved GB from Napoleon and Adolf 😅😅😅
where do you get the figure of 1500 russians being killed each day from ? All information available points to Ukrainians being losing large numbers with a lot of desertions as well ......
Exactly..
Just western propaganda buddy. Cant believe anything they say these days. They say russia is losing 1500 troops a day yet Biden and Blinken are the ones crying to reduce the conscription age from 25 to 18 in Ukraine. I wonder why ??? Meanwhile Russia still call this a Special military operation, not war and didnt even start drafting.
Several independent sources confirm this. Whatever number Ukraine has, triple or quadruple that for russia, their meat wave tactics are not exactly a secret.
How about politicians stop putting the public at risk of getting involved in a war?
This is God’s earth and doesn’t ‘belong to any lunatic. All life is sacred and not to squander for egotistical maniacs. Eyar how about you all just like GROW UP!
People Goverments are snowball systems nothing els
Wow you will stop all wars with that speech. But true tho
@ 😂 makes me so mad. My sons serve in the UK Army (not really an army but a defence force as we’re too small in number) so makes my blood boil they’re so quick to throw our sons/daughters to this bs. Coming from a military family, my dad was SAS and 6 uncles RAF (all sadly now passed) they’d be fuming too. 😬🫶
"Manpower" ? I hope you meant "Person Power" ? "Enhance the reserve forces..." Good luck with that. They will have gone to ground well before hand. Such a pile of BS from the Army and these armchair generals.
Reserves would need time to get refreshing training, be equipped before being sent over, these people think the reserves can just be chucked into the fight without any refreshment training first?
Best keep our head down then.
uk died 20 years ago ! we serve israel! so we need to fight for our own land before claiming to be uk
The way things are more likely six weeks
UK needs higher taxes indeed. 😅
Zelensky asked for extra $125 billion for 2025 🤓🤓🤓
Russia would demand much more from us...
@@michaelcoward1902 uk died 20 years ago ! we serve israel! so we need to fight for our own land before claiming to be uk
@@michaelcoward1902 Russia wants its old historical lands back. That's it 🙂
It would be less than six months, and who cares? This country isn't worth defending. Blame the political elites.
maybe they shoulda thought about that before they started backing nazis against russia
Ruzzia has them though. Many many carry that mark on their bodies and we have seen them. They are the ones who commit crimes against their own as well as Ukrainians.
Complete Tosh. Just cos someone doesn't agree with left wing idealogy, it does not make them Nazis.
Back in the 80s they used to say 11 sticks per bullet, and that was before computers
😂😂NATO's Hollywood LGBT army and the Western media are the object of ridicule around the world😂😂
Is that why Russia is getting stomped in Ukraine? Lol
Sooner, the British Army of August 1914 suffered 100% casualties by December. They were recalling former servicemen who hadn't worn a uniform in years and sending them to the front with no training.
Alexander is correct.
It's longer than the Canadians would last.
Who would want to fight and die for a phoney war?
No way i would fight for this country and politicians and the crown
During the world wars, the bulk of the UK's fighting force were Indian conscripts. Why would it be any different now?