Muhammed Hijab, so polite, so smart, so good at giving dawah, may Allah bless his efforts! i enjoy his videos so much, no shouting, no arguing, always keeps calm, mashaa Allah!!
If only he looked at the discussion as less of theism vs atheism, and more about finding out the truth, he might have been more receptive to what Br Muhammad was saying and not feel like he was being setup.
The guy said he's a probabilistic, sort off. He believes in maths and especially probabilities. If I were Muhamed I would have taken the same approach.
He did take the same approach and the guy said that the probability of the universe coming into existence on it's own was less than 1 percent. But he wouldn't accept there was a 99% percent of the probability of the designer or even any percentage. It's called Ego my friend and egoistic people hide the truth behind ego.
Asad Ali yeah I did make a mistake though, the chances of life arising in an infinite universe over infinite time is 100%, just the amount of time it would take is uncertain. That's why I started chuckling at the trap I'd let Muhammad get me into with my sloppy reasoning. All in good fun though, I enjoyed the conversation, first time I'd ever been to speaker's corner and it was much more interesting than expected.
Asad Ali true, although if you'll agree that time is infinite, that argument would hold regardless of the size of the vessel, so long as it contained some degree of chaos and all of the necessary subcomponents for life.
Wallahi it is so sad how one tries their hardest to turn their face away from Allah. This man slithers out of any arguement and does his best to just never accept or aknowledge that something Br. Muhammed says is right. SubhanAllah.
atheists built no civilization but built by theists, all Prophets & Messengers are Muslims! Islam is the only unchanged religion. The civilized world and humanity itself, its good & bad testified to the Truthfulness and Oneness of Allah, that Allah is All Wise, Just, Merciful, Present & Affecting with His Attributes, Guiding etc. Civilization is based on Islam or whats left over on it from the messages and it departs from a lack thereof. Even our calendars are marked by religion!
I have never heard anything like this in a debate: [I am not going to admit defeat and agree with you because you used my argument and have now "trapped" me in it.] So.....accept it that your argument is flawed? It's amazing how you will never find a sincere genuine atheist. At the bottom of it all lies arrogance.
No, it's quite fair actually. In debate and rhetoric we use tactics, and those tactics are used often to influence the spectators, not the opponent. That is what Max was aware of - being trapped in by a tactic. Max shortcoming was that he didn't know how to articulate that. It would be like me saying, "so you believe in God, yeah? So you can accept that, you can accept that yeah? Well, God has done this this and this, yeah, so you're saying you personally justify this" Of course in this simple example you'd be able to then point out why I would be incorrect to draw such a conclusion from such a premise - and likely distinguish between what you would personally justify and gods will, among many other things. Simplistic yes, but that's the same sentiment. Max is more of a nerd than a talker, whereas this other fella talks for a living, so of course he knows to trap him. That doesn't make him correct or incorrect, but max is right to try and point out when he's being trapped in to a place that doesn't necessarily reflect his position but has been presented as such
@@MithunKalvala6 maybe you didn't catch the fact that there is a certain amount of faith even Blind Faith on the theist and the atheists position. Finger-pointing remember hypocrite!
Every atheist or agnost I’ve seen in these speakers corner videos say the same thing. Before even saying anything about god or religion, they say “you’re trying to convince me of your god.”
MUHAMMAD HIJAB I LOVE YOU BROTHER. SOME OF THEM DONT EVEN DESERVE THE DAWAH. THEY ARE LUCKY THAT DAWAH IS SUNNAH OR ELSE WE WOULDNT EVEN HAVE TO BOTHER EXPLAINING AND SHOWING AND JUST KEEP THE HAPINESS TO OURSELVES.
Thank you Max and Muhammad :) All I did see is two persons from different perspectives having a nice constructive debate. I They both did well. It's not about winning you know. Like any negotiation not in a lucrative manner but in a pragmatic manner which is based on IDEAS. I mean if I will have a debate with someone on ideas my first interest will be literally CHECKING what he has to say. It will end whether by reassuring what I already know or finding where I fail.. As Nietzsche said and I quote: ' Convictions are the ennemies of truth they're even more dangerous than lies". Would you people PLEASE consider that in the up coming stuff ? About those making it look like a Manipulative essai and they're Mr Psychology... I'm not defending anyone here I mean people are suspicous when ever they see a camera these days and since Muhammad is doing this for a quite long time and since we need to suppose some good in people we don't know :) I don't think that what they have on the channel is ALL what they've recorded... People are becoming too ofended these days, if it just appeared that Max is against his religious beliefs we will not this dense material to watch ... stop being too PERFECT and contradicting yourselves while claiming that others have bad intentions when you're only staying behind your screen ... Please get over it ... Max could just quit it any time he doesn't look to me as someone who's in it with his ego (although modern psychologists denied the ego idea but I used it for the common understanding) So thank them for what they've presented . I would add a question about any book suggestion about physics, logic, bilogy... I'm doing books reviews my self and it would be a good idea to pass some knowledge to who ever is interested. Thanks to who ever will read this comment and interact.
Salute to brother Hijab who didn’t bother wasting his time, his energy and his intelligence. Not everyone can handle his logical explanations. Assalamualakum.
@@BoxNbox he just said he would like another person to speak with the Canadian fallow, how is that blindly following! When the conversation has not even been yet had!? Man, I hope I'm not speaking to a kid!
max was the most honest atheist i had ever seen , all atheists and agnostic were not honest even with their selves which is very obvious from their body language , but max really and honesty shocked me i thought he would never accept that , i wish he found the truth about this . and br mohammed you have a very beautiful respectable discussion politics , providing evidences..etc
The universe itself may or may not be infinite, we don't know it's boundaries. Arguments for infinity usually rest on the idea of multiverses. The argument is the specificity of our random but precise physical laws may be evidence that all of them exist among many random types, and the infinity the idea of infinite different types of universes with different types of physical laws -- some that can support life and others that cannot. Our observation of this one is solely due to the chance that it happened to be one that could support our existence. No god is needed for this explanation.
Hello? It cannot be infinite if it is expanding. Infinity has no limits. No beginning and no end. We do not understand infinity nor can we process it with our finite brain power. Infinity cannot become bigger. If it can then its not infinity. The multiverse theory just strikes of desperation to take God out of the equation. Science / Atheism has turned into a religion. It sounds so agenda based and things like this really expose it. Its hypocrisy, you are not willing to even entertain the idea of a Creative Force being an explanation for the fine tuning of the Universe because you claim there is no evidence for his existence (even though this in itself is one of many) but you are happy to insert this multiverse theory and run with it even though you have no evidence for it whatsoever.
There is no universe, we live in a flat plane that has a dome like barrier blocking anyone or thing that tries to leave this plane. Outer space is a Hollywood manufactured illusion and lie being purported by the Satanic godless media and scientific community. They have spent hundreds of years brainwashing the world into a false globe Earth theory and universe and planets world view model with the intention of having all human beings believe that there is a huge infinite universe that is growing and that god doesn't exist. If you think what I'm saying is crazy look into the math for the curvature of the earth as well as experiments done to confirm it. The math proves the satanists as liars. No matter how hard they plan, the truth exposes them. Furthermore all outer space footage is simply cgi manipulated graphics, video, or pictures. Even the pictures of the Earth are cgi.
It's clear that it's not so much about the arguments or logic, it's what the non Muslim thinks he has to accept once he gives up his arguments, The Creator. This Creator which politicians and powerful elite have brainwashed them against so they serve not the Creator but them.
Great conversation. No matter how nicely you put your arguments while profound and compelling, if you hurt the opponent's self esteem, be assured of their refusal nonetheless. I've seen that the purpose of Dawah being forgotten and it's solely about who is right for the time being and the cameras add more load to the problem. - A personal view
To know a creator exists you only need one thing, a mirror to look at yourself with. Seeing how your structured and the perfectness of proportions that make up you causes a reasonable person to stop and think, wow, there is absolutely a creator. Just look at the placement of everthing, your eyes, nose, mouth and teeths, ears. Subhanallah, anyone with reason just knows it rightaway that Allah exists.
Muhammed Hijab, many thanks to you for what you are doing. It is and should be seen by many many more people. This is the type of discussion that will lead to understanding and acceptance for different beliefs. I will say, that in Canada the probability of being put against a wall then shot at by multiple institutional pawns AKA coppers, is just as or less than the probability argument towards .99999999 repeating does not equate to chance. I believe in energy, this can be channeled in many different ways. Some find god then within that process, due to a strong mental focus and passion can find strength, knowledge, wisdom and structure. Sometimes people that don't have that strength within them to start with find it through a guiding hand aka God, known in many different forms. I will argue that creation is not known by us and the fact we are able to discuss it says a lot. This is why we as people need more free open discussions to accept others differences. The problem is we do not co-exist, for some reason we seem to push beliefs upon others. This is not going to work for humanity and it will take something that threatens all humans in order for us to put aside these deeply rooted beliefs and work as a whole. Maybe it is by chance or by a higher power that we came to be, at the end of the day no one has the proof of god or scientific facts for our creation. The human mind has been dulled down by media and programming. Energy is multi dimensional, what we call a soul can pass on many life times. This body and this physical world is only what we see through our current vessel. Everything is in tune, for every action there is a reaction. Time and space we do not have the mental capacity to fully understand/comprehend. Eventually through trial and error plus ingenuity with a purpose it will happen. The social structure along with the current monetary system / politics is only going to lead us down a dark road. Freedom, Genuine freedom combined with un regulated knowledge might just steer us away from that dark road. knowledge is power, one gift either by chance or by a higher power is the internet. It has connected people from all over the world, given people a voice to stand up against many tyrannical or unjust situations. At the end of the day nobody knows, until its proven through science or a alien craft lands outside my house, or Allah transcends the boundaries of all being and all knowing to a physical form, What is the point of arguing. Just follow your gut, make the right choice, tell the truth, help someone in need, don't cheat, don't steal, don't kill, be a good person. One simple thing to finish off, consider this when making decisions, " How would i feel if some one did that to me" Take care everyone and keep up the great discussions.
In Part 1 comments, most people were saying how nice the canadian man is, in Part 2 comments, everyone is saying he's cold and not willing to accept new ideas. He might be one of those People of Desire, they take their whims and desires as God and grow arrogant.
Having been an atheist>agnostic before Islam, I can attest that MH nailed the arrogant, narcissistic superiority complex of both deniers towards the end of the video.
@@Keysersoze786 You are just hating now. You’ve shown dislike for Hijab, and you have something against him tapping people? He took Max’s argument, and then he used it against him. That’s what you do in an argument. You debunk another’s argument and try to prove your argument.
@@SonoftheFortunate typical Muslim way of debating. Trying to trap people and ganging up on people in speakers corner. I don't like hijab yes. As he's sly. Look at what he does in debates. He edits videos in his favour like he did with the debate with cosmic, he deletes comments from the youtube comments section of his videos. Guys a fraud.
@@Keysersoze786 Again by saying typical Muslim you’re not only stereotyping every Muslim, you’re also indirectly saying only Muslims do this. The whole point of the argument is to trap someone and show how their argument is wrong. You don’t have evidence to back your claims. You say he’s a fraud and now have claims you would have to give me evidence. You say he edits his videos in favor of him, but rather he doesn’t edit the video at all it begins and I never see a cut. You don’t like Hijab because he’s smart and he can trap people using their own arguments. You claim he’s a fraud now give me your evidence so you can get me to believe he’s a fraud.
Bro Mohammed, just use these two quotes in such situations : “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.” -Cambridge University astrophysicist and mathematician Fred Hoyle . “Fred Hoyle and I differ on lots of questions, but on this we agree: a common sense and satisfying interpretation of our world suggests the designing hand of a superintelligence.” -Former Harvard University Research Professor of Astronomy and the History of Science Owen Gingerich, who is now the senior astronomer at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. Gingerich is here reflecting on Fred Hoyle’s above comment.
WOW,,, now I see that brother standing silently is a very intelligent brother too!!! Hell, I might the most stupid of all people in the world... :D ... But I accept Allah and His messenger!!!
If following the logic of the argument (that the probability of the universe's creation by a random process is a tiny tiny tiny number) then this argument in itself brings into doubt the existence of an omnipotent God. If there is a probability that the universe was created by random chance - no matter how small of a number - then an all knowing and all powerful God could not simultaneously exist in such a universe since there is a chance - again no matter how small a number - that the universe was not created by his will. I am not trying to disprove the existence of God. I am only pointing out that although the argument is well worded, the logic is flawed. Too bad Max didn't catch this as it would have kept the argument going. This was one of the bests so far. Very civil and thought provoking.
There's an even easier way to counter this argument. The universe is not finely tuned. It randomly turned out the way it is and in these conditions life was created. That doesnt mean that if the universe had turned out differently that there wouldn't be life. There is probably an infinite amount ways the universe could have turned out where life would be possible, its just that it turned out this way. So its not finley tuned. Its just the way it is.
This guy got something very wrong about his "laws", something most atheists and agnostics (and even theists) have trouble understanding.. that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics explicitly states that the universe is always INCREASING IN ENTROPY (increases disorder) which is exactly opposite of what he purported that a spontaneous reaction would occur resulting in formation of complex molecules (decreasing entropy). This is one of the most basic tenets of physical chemistry: formation of molecules decreases entropy (non-spontaneous reaction - less disorder); splitting of molecules increases entropy (spontaneous reaction - more disorder). The man contradicts himself by asserting that complex molecules would eventually form by random collisions (decreasing disorder), while basic physics taught at the highschool level tell us that the universe is in a state of increasing disorder. For those that don't understand entropy/degree of disorder, please see images below for clarification, 1) sites.google.com/a/ramapocentral.net/ap-chemistry/_/rsrc/1307101737329/chapter-16-spontaneity-entropy-free-energy/entropy-and-spontaneous-chemical-reactions/entropy%20again.gif 2) images.slideplayer.com/38/10822801/slides/slide_12.jpg 3) clearingcomplexity.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/ordertodisorder.png?w=640
If infinity doesn't exist, as a concept, so philosophical, why do we have a word for it? And if anything is possible..... And yes, there could be a quantum world where the agnostic convinces you your religion is wrong, and a quantim world where you prove your religion to him. The real question is, why do you find it so important what the agnostic believes?
I think its important to have discussions about what is right and wrong. So its important for someone to not accept only whats his intuitions are based upon but also the objective reality..which many finds each other spot on.
One thing I was will is that atheist just dont want to believe no matter how much evidence is put to them with cop out arguments like "i cant say" or "i dont know for certain"
the ONLY pertinent question to argue with an agnost or an athiest is to answer from where did all this MATTER present in our universe came in first place into being ???? and secondly where is this FORCE which is letting all atoms and molecules to interact in different ways is coming from ? AND THAT IS ALL !!!!
When he talked about the universe probably wasn’t created by a force and gave the example of the marbles and in you’re hand he contradicts his belief because he rejects the ballon example with the Big Bang theory because he said the ballon or you blowing it wasn’t there but his example of the marbles in the hand is okay but you are using you’re hands to move the marble ... come on bro it’s highly probably that the universe was created my a force because I not only agree with the ballon example but I also agree with you’re example of the marbles because I do believe in a force that created the universe. So now I ask myself the question is this “force” that created the universe .. does the “force” have a name, is it intelligent? And I personally believe so.
+AWZ SmartPhone look up..... news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130214-biggest-asteroid-impacts-meteorites-space-2012da14/ Fortunately, none of these were large enough to completely destroy our planet, but there's still a lot of smaller residual debris still out there....estimates based on what's being found in desert regions puts the figure at around 50,000 per year within the 10gm - 1000gm range....but as our planet is 70% water, most end up in the sea....................... you are just lucky to be living in a relatively 'quiet' period of Earths history...the chances of you being hit by a meteorite is about the same as you throwing a stone into the sea, and hitting a fish !! I'm guessing that you had a 'limited' education, judging by your question (and the type of video's you watch) so may I suggest that you continue to ask yourself many more questions, and 'google' it before posting ....try more 'science' subjects, less religion, and a lot less porn...ooops! sorry...... I only mention it because Muslim males currently spend more time than anyone else on 'dubious' sites..... but no doubt, you are the exception to the rule....:-) .www.muslimsandtheworld.com/do-muslims-watch-pornography/
That is the most misused response/answer to this question. What on earth has maintained that pull/push force that doesn't disobey for a split of a second. Randomness can never bring a conscious order that lives for billion of years. These baseless answers are nothing but to deceive our own selves. They say we came from monkeys, OK then why don't we get organ transplants from monkeys i.e. kidnyes, eyes, etc. They say our tail bone is extra, OK, then why don't you cut it down?
foreversurfingthenet The meteorites isn't what I am talking about, there are trillions of stars , planet and other objects with a variety of sizes swimming within the skies, why has a big planet such earth, or bigger start not collided yet with the earth and split it into parts for trillions of years.
This may seem like an odd question, but does anyone know Br Mohammad Hijabs height? He seems very tall in this video. I ask this because I think very tall people can be physically imposing and it actually helps people to listen to them. I believe Anthony Robbins is an example of this.
Loren Korlaet the probability of a randomized universe is almost infinitely small. Look up Roger Penrose , the atheist cosmologist that discovered this
The universe is not fine tuned for life. The universe as it is, exists as it is, and life has arisen from the conditions of the universe. If the universe was different due to a different configuration of physics then life *as we know it* might not exist, but a different form of life MAY arise within that different set of physical rules. There is no way to say.
He feels like its a set up because he accepted the probability argument but he is the one who set himself up. Even though he tries to accept a different standard (empirical evidence) Br Mohammed was willing to explain to him how he is still wrong, and it's an even weaker standard. He just couldnt accept that in this subject, theres no way around it, the truth is clear and he can't accept it because he doesn't like it and it feels like a trap :/
If there is 0.0000001% probability that the universe have been created finely tune randomly without any "higher force" or some sort of intelligence, what is the remaining %probability are for? Giving the probability for any like of computer programs or operating systems or even any finely operating tools are created by some sort of intelligence(human) is 100%.. Doesn't that means the universe is created by 'someone' and not randomly is the most logical answer?
Why is Max's behaviour so cold? This should've been a fun debate about discovering new ideas and theories. Sadly, he had already made up his mind even before listening to the other side
Ok so I'm Muslim however this is something that I have an issue with. Brother hijab has established here that there is no logical possibility of an infinite number of universes however how can we know that there isn't just a large number of universe and this one just happens to meet all the requirements for life? Afaf
What is less than 1% of infinite? A lot more than the probability of anything probable on the earth. Your bloon expanded into something otherwise it couldn't expand. If a scientist had this argument with you then you would call them gin.
It’s not a trap max if anything you trapped yourself starting a conversation with you having no clue in what your saying cause at the of it all you went back and agreed with everything he was speaking about... max max max come on get it together lol
His claim that just because you can conclude that everything goes back to one point, it doesn't necessarily mean that was the beginning. However, his arguement is flawd because according to Radioactive Decay dating, the elements of which make up the observable universe all date back to a beganing. Meaning, before this particular event, the element's didn't exist. Thus the universe didn't have any mass. Which conclude the singularly. This kid is delusional.
This agnostic pledged to cling with the best term of His forts and it was Probability with evidences. Brother Hijab at 360deg pertinently speak keeping the sought method alive and when the conclusion time came and the narrations solely, evidently and logically comply with certainty(not even probability) then this person speaks absurd. After applying all rational and relevant senses,principles, intellects, time, expounding and examples its lie, arrogance and ignorance to utter out that U r trapped into the best criteria that u urself had sworn. Appalling failure! And Allahu SWT knows the best.
who created God? GOD 1. who created GOD 1? GOD 2. WHo created GOD 2? GOD 3 we can go like this forever...or infinity. cos if you talking any logic/reasoning.....matter cannot exist (nor force) unless created by the external force of something else. so the only answer has to be infinity. infinity has no start, nor beginning. therefore there cannot be a single creator. we and everything around us arose from random mixture of stuff in this never ending infinity where anything will occur at some point in time in infinity. this is all we can say
Kenny X “we and everything around us arose from a random mixture of stuff” Umm....where did that “stuff” come from?? Either someone put those stuff there or they just “became”. And things can’t just “be” because then we would have tons of things just bursting out from nowhere everyday right in front of our eyes. And if we arose from a random mixture of some random substances wouldn’t this “infinite” universe(s) be flooded with an infinite number of creatures all infinitely circling around us?? And if that’s the case, with a world so infinite and random what is the probability that no one has found us or that we haven’t found them?? In a world so infinite what is the probability that we( planet earth and it’s inhabitants) haven’t been crushed by some random star for an infinite number of years if there is no external force dictating exactly what happens in this infinite universe. We muslims don’t believe that the world is infinite. But we understand the concept and are able to argue and make our point. That’s why we don’t claim that there is a second god that created God. This world is limited. Time is limited and the number of gods are exist are limited because there’s just one. Just imagine, an INFINITE number of objects floating around and colliding every second, and an INFINITE number of stars bursting into flames and nothing has yet destroyed our plane for the 4.5b years that it has been around, not even a star has burned a little close to us and engulfed us in its flames. And you think it is all coincidental??
When you say who created "God", you are not referring to a "God" anymore because in this case he would be a creation, when you keep going with that infinite regression theory: Who created God's God, then who created the one before that.... etc, then there is no God and we are all creations. Which brings a point, what was powerful enough to start life? And what was powerful enough to start it? And what was powerful enough to start even a higher, older cause that created that?... etc. You will find that your brain ends at a deadline, which will bring you back to the first step. Conclusion: There is only one God, who wasn't created, but started all creations. Any other theory has nothing to do with logic, but with pure ignorance.
Time itself is a creation, God cannot be a part of the creation, therefore for god there is no past present or future, that concept is for us, there has to have been a creator since matter doesn’t just appear out of thin air
The real world has intelligent operating systems and algorithms similar to cyberspace. Real-world operating systems and algorithms are smarter, more complex than operating systems and applications of cyberspace. If the real nature of random events and trial end errors will be found many former natural process failures.
The probability that life and earth came to existence is 100% because it happened.. The reason probability exist is because we don't know.. it's unknown for us and that's why we put possibilities but everything is doomed to its faith.. I'm not a Muslim by the way
Man that Canadian guy was having to dumb down his arguments so much. It was almost cringeworthy. Muhammed's style is so belittling and infantile. I mean he's a showman, and he's very confident yes...........but he doesn't address the arguments posed, he just wriggles, answers his own questions and makes facile analogies. Man. So silly!!!
À sheep Herder that 1.5 billion people love ans talk about him everyday , what about you, no one knows you and once you'll leave this earth you'll je forgotted for ever ever ever lol
Ramadan Masri i believe you are a Muslim? Well in Islam it's always said that you don't Know when you will die and so you should always expect that you might die today.. so will you believe that you are living today just because it's probable? The probability that you will die today is 0.0000001%.. 99.999999% that you will live today.. but it still doesn't mean that you won't die today is it?
Ramadan Masri even according to your numbers I did the math again and the probability is 0.0002% that you will die in any day, ofcourse now you are alive but I'm talking about the fact of what's the probability that you will die tomorrow.. you see it's not probable that you will die tomorrow, but that doesn't make you have a strong believe that you will live tomorrow. We should always say we don't know
Ramadan Masri I didn't reject the probability that him living tomorrow is high, infact that's exactly my point. But it doesn't mean that he should *believe* that he would live tomorrow.. eventho we know it's probable and I agree that it is because it's still not a fact that he will live tomorrow, it's just strongly probable.. Islam taught you somethings that you don't use and that is to say that everything is possible. And I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic.. atheism believes god doesn't exist which they don't have proof of. Agnostic people just believe they don't know. I hope this clarifies your confusion. I believe the idea of God is probable, can fit logically, but it doesn't mean it's true.
sorry there are serious problems with big bang theory that could break it for example hyperflation it means that at some point it expaned faster than light witch would contradact current physical knowledge soo therefore we cant acualy say that stuff that happend before hyperflatin were because physics then were different even time it self is faster or slower depending on mass and speeds for example photon moveing at speed of light is at start middel and end at same time. also as i said before it cant be said it can be 0-100 % depending on numbers of diferent univerises. also now about your argument that its weak argument that you have been shoot by alot of bullets and all missed you is not weak argument at all. in fact its a fact because if you would been hit by bullets you would been hit by bullets and saying im here because bullets did not hit me after being shoot means bullets did not hit you otherwise you would be dead. your logic there is realy flawed. on what bases you say that by not being abel to get info from out of our universe we could make any conclusions about outside universe. all real sientists would disagree with that. it has main basic problems outside our universe constants dont need to be same there fore we can not say anything about outside of our universe. its widely know fact that we living in 4 dimensional room would not be abel to see 5 dimensional being. no you cant make conclusions about whats outside based on what inside easiest example is closet in space in albert einstin relativity if you are in closet in space thats moveing you wont be abel to understand if you are moveing. i must admit that you are clever spokeman and you easily foul people like him.
@oliver, what premise did you have to make such an absurd comment? OR what would be the opposite case to make at the Canadian guy from the "pink vest" to not look like a "dumbing down of intelligence" based on your intelligence?
M Omar whilst I appreciate your attempt to muster up a coherent sentence in what is possibly your second language, it would be fair to say your question is a jumbled mess which makes no sense whatsoever.
@oliver, You seem to be suggestive of your hypothetical linguistic superiority while failed to understand a grammatically valid sentence. While I dislike indulging in any unnecessarily illogical discussion in a public place like this one, your comment intrigued me to ask you regarding your position on the context. Let me rephrase my ques, "How the Canadian guy dumbed down his intelligence?". Hope that helps you out.
M Omar you should watch some Neil Degrasse Tyson videos and you will then appreciate the verbal diarrhoea coming out of the mouth of our friend in pink. It is commendable that our friend in pink tries to construct arguments and topical points BUT it is obvious to see he isn't an expert in any field. Like I said ..Neil Degrass Tyson will be a revelation if you haven't watched any of his videos.
Muhammed Hijab, so polite, so smart, so good at giving dawah, may Allah bless his efforts! i enjoy his videos so much, no shouting, no arguing, always keeps calm, mashaa Allah!!
You are surprised at that because you like to fight isn't it
No clothes though he should dress modestly
Hes wearing a tank top, his big muscles are not a part of his awrah lolll
No not good at all, you just percieve it that way.
If only he looked at the discussion as less of theism vs atheism, and more about finding out the truth, he might have been more receptive to what Br Muhammad was saying and not feel like he was being setup.
The guy said he's a probabilistic, sort off. He believes in maths and especially probabilities.
If I were Muhamed I would have taken the same approach.
He did take the same approach and the guy said that the probability of the universe coming into existence on it's own was less than 1 percent. But he wouldn't accept there was a 99% percent of the probability of the designer or even any percentage. It's called Ego my friend and egoistic people hide the truth behind ego.
Asad Ali yeah I did make a mistake though, the chances of life arising in an infinite universe over infinite time is 100%, just the amount of time it would take is uncertain. That's why I started chuckling at the trap I'd let Muhammad get me into with my sloppy reasoning.
All in good fun though, I enjoyed the conversation, first time I'd ever been to speaker's corner and it was much more interesting than expected.
Max MacKay but that's assuming the universe is infinite.
Asad Ali true, although if you'll agree that time is infinite, that argument would hold regardless of the size of the vessel, so long as it contained some degree of chaos and all of the necessary subcomponents for life.
Wallahi it is so sad how one tries their hardest to turn their face away from Allah. This man slithers out of any arguement and does his best to just never accept or aknowledge that something Br. Muhammed says is right. SubhanAllah.
They're debating... if he just agreed to everything.. not much of a debate.
atheists built no civilization but built by theists, all Prophets & Messengers are Muslims! Islam is the only unchanged religion. The civilized world and humanity itself, its good & bad testified to the Truthfulness and Oneness of Allah, that Allah is All Wise, Just, Merciful, Present & Affecting with His Attributes, Guiding etc. Civilization is based on Islam or whats left over on it from the messages and it departs from a lack thereof. Even our calendars are marked by religion!
Theres no proof of allah
@@Keysersoze786 Lol, I humbly challenge you to disprove the existence of Allah (S.W).
@@shaolindreams But if something really does make sense, then agreeing would be logical, even if it's a debate.
I have never heard anything like this in a debate: [I am not going to admit defeat and agree with you because you used my argument and have now "trapped" me in it.] So.....accept it that your argument is flawed? It's amazing how you will never find a sincere genuine atheist. At the bottom of it all lies arrogance.
No, it's quite fair actually. In debate and rhetoric we use tactics, and those tactics are used often to influence the spectators, not the opponent.
That is what Max was aware of - being trapped in by a tactic. Max shortcoming was that he didn't know how to articulate that.
It would be like me saying, "so you believe in God, yeah? So you can accept that, you can accept that yeah?
Well, God has done this this and this, yeah, so you're saying you personally justify this"
Of course in this simple example you'd be able to then point out why I would be incorrect to draw such a conclusion from such a premise - and likely distinguish between what you would personally justify and gods will, among many other things. Simplistic yes, but that's the same sentiment.
Max is more of a nerd than a talker, whereas this other fella talks for a living, so of course he knows to trap him. That doesn't make him correct or incorrect, but max is right to try and point out when he's being trapped in to a place that doesn't necessarily reflect his position but has been presented as such
@@MithunKalvala6 atheist clearly seem more intelligent here.
lol i could easily refute the arguments Hijab made.
@@a.b.h.i.j.i.t.h please refute them then
@@MithunKalvala6 maybe you didn't catch the fact that there is a certain amount of faith even Blind Faith on the theist and the atheists position. Finger-pointing remember hypocrite!
I wish all debates could be this civil and open. Good job Mr. Mohammed from your Christian friend.
Every atheist or agnost I’ve seen in these speakers corner videos say the same thing. Before even saying anything about god or religion, they say “you’re trying to convince me of your god.”
the brother was so polite and kind throughout and the guy wouldn't let him answer his phone
Br. Hijab .. selam aleikum from Bosnia ^^
Mr.Jasaw walaikum salaam from the U.K.
Brother Salam from bangladesh
walakumasalam, to all my Bosnian brothers and sisters.
MUHAMMAD HIJAB I LOVE YOU BROTHER. SOME OF THEM DONT EVEN DESERVE THE DAWAH. THEY ARE LUCKY THAT DAWAH IS SUNNAH OR ELSE WE WOULDNT EVEN HAVE TO BOTHER EXPLAINING AND SHOWING AND JUST KEEP THE HAPINESS TO OURSELVES.
Thank you Max and Muhammad :)
All I did see is two persons from different perspectives having a nice constructive debate. I They both did well. It's not about winning you know. Like any negotiation not in a lucrative manner but in a pragmatic manner which is based on IDEAS. I mean if I will have a debate with someone on ideas my first interest will be literally CHECKING what he has to say. It will end whether by reassuring what I already know or finding where I fail.. As Nietzsche said and I quote: ' Convictions are the ennemies of truth they're even more dangerous than lies".
Would you people PLEASE consider that in the up coming stuff ?
About those making it look like a Manipulative essai and they're Mr Psychology... I'm not defending anyone here I mean people are suspicous when ever they see a camera these days and since Muhammad is doing this for a quite long time and since we need to suppose some good in people we don't know :) I don't think that what they have on the channel is ALL what they've recorded... People are becoming too ofended these days, if it just appeared that Max is against his religious beliefs we will not this dense material to watch ... stop being too PERFECT and contradicting yourselves while claiming that others have bad intentions when you're only staying behind your screen ... Please get over it ... Max could just quit it any time he doesn't look to me as someone who's in it with his ego (although modern psychologists denied the ego idea but I used it for the common understanding) So thank them for what they've presented .
I would add a question about any book suggestion about physics, logic, bilogy... I'm doing books reviews my self and it would be a good idea to pass some knowledge to who ever is interested. Thanks to who ever will read this comment and interact.
I like ur comment alot 😊
Salute to brother Hijab who didn’t bother wasting his time, his energy and his intelligence. Not everyone can handle his logical explanations. Assalamualakum.
I want Subboor to take on this canadian man!
Stop Spamming lol just reading ur comments shows that u r ignorant so i dont think u can understand .
@@sofiael7350 ikr. they are just blindly following and believing something
@@sofiael7350 wait, what!? All he said is that he would like brother Subboor to speak with the Canadian man, how is that ignorant or spamming?
@@BoxNbox he just said he would like another person to speak with the Canadian fallow, how is that blindly following! When the conversation has not even been yet had!? Man, I hope I'm not speaking to a kid!
For the first time in forevveeerrrr, I commented first.
It's not a trap it just makes sense!!!! Good job brother Hijab
max was the most honest atheist i had ever seen , all atheists and agnostic were not honest even with their selves which is very obvious from their body language , but max really and honesty shocked me i thought he would never accept that , i wish he found the truth about this .
and br mohammed you have a very beautiful respectable discussion politics , providing evidences..etc
The obvious question. How can something be expanding if it is infinite?
The universe itself may or may not be infinite, we don't know it's boundaries. Arguments for infinity usually rest on the idea of multiverses.
The argument is the specificity of our random but precise physical laws may be evidence that all of them exist among many random types, and the infinity the idea of infinite different types of universes with different types of physical laws -- some that can support life and others that cannot. Our observation of this one is solely due to the chance that it happened to be one that could support our existence.
No god is needed for this explanation.
Hello? It cannot be infinite if it is expanding. Infinity has no limits. No beginning and no end. We do not understand infinity nor can we process it with our finite brain power. Infinity cannot become bigger. If it can then its not infinity.
The multiverse theory just strikes of desperation to take God out of the equation. Science / Atheism has turned into a religion. It sounds so agenda based and things like this really expose it. Its hypocrisy, you are not willing to even entertain the idea of a Creative Force being an explanation for the fine tuning of the Universe because you claim there is no evidence for his existence (even though this in itself is one of many) but you are happy to insert this multiverse theory and run with it even though you have no evidence for it whatsoever.
There is no universe, we live in a flat plane that has a dome like barrier blocking anyone or thing that tries to leave this plane. Outer space is a Hollywood manufactured illusion and lie being purported by the Satanic godless media and scientific community. They have spent hundreds of years brainwashing the world into a false globe Earth theory and universe and planets world view model with the intention of having all human beings believe that there is a huge infinite universe that is growing and that god doesn't exist.
If you think what I'm saying is crazy look into the math for the curvature of the earth as well as experiments done to confirm it. The math proves the satanists as liars. No matter how hard they plan, the truth exposes them.
Furthermore all outer space footage is simply cgi manipulated graphics, video, or pictures. Even the pictures of the Earth are cgi.
Adam Xyz idk about that lol, the Quran says that they made the earth egg shaped
like a figure 8, expanding and contracting.
It's clear that it's not so much about the arguments or logic, it's what the non Muslim thinks he has to accept once he gives up his arguments, The Creator.
This Creator which politicians and powerful elite have brainwashed them against so they serve not the Creator but them.
Great conversation.
No matter how nicely you put your arguments while profound and compelling, if you hurt the opponent's self esteem, be assured of their refusal nonetheless.
I've seen that the purpose of Dawah being forgotten and it's solely about who is right for the time being and the cameras add more load to the problem.
- A personal view
To know a creator exists you only need one thing, a mirror to look at yourself with. Seeing how your structured and the perfectness of proportions
that make up you causes a reasonable person to stop and think, wow, there is absolutely a creator. Just look at the placement of everthing, your eyes, nose, mouth and teeths, ears. Subhanallah, anyone with reason just knows it rightaway that Allah exists.
Muhammed Hijab, many thanks to you for what you are doing. It is and should be seen by many many more people. This is the type of discussion that will lead to understanding and acceptance for different beliefs. I will say, that in Canada the probability of being put against a wall then shot at by multiple institutional pawns AKA coppers, is just as or less than the probability argument towards .99999999 repeating does not equate to chance. I believe in energy, this can be channeled in many different ways. Some find god then within that process, due to a strong mental focus and passion can find strength, knowledge, wisdom and structure. Sometimes people that don't have that strength within them to start with find it through a guiding hand aka God, known in many different forms. I will argue that creation is not known by us and the fact we are able to discuss it says a lot. This is why we as people need more free open discussions to accept others differences. The problem is we do not co-exist, for some reason we seem to push beliefs upon others. This is not going to work for humanity and it will take something that threatens all humans in order for us to put aside these deeply rooted beliefs and work as a whole. Maybe it is by chance or by a higher power that we came to be, at the end of the day no one has the proof of god or scientific facts for our creation. The human mind has been dulled down by media and programming. Energy is multi dimensional, what we call a soul can pass on many life times. This body and this physical world is only what we see through our current vessel. Everything is in tune, for every action there is a reaction. Time and space we do not have the mental capacity to fully understand/comprehend. Eventually through trial and error plus ingenuity with a purpose it will happen. The social structure along with the current monetary system / politics is only going to lead us down a dark road. Freedom, Genuine freedom combined with un regulated knowledge might just steer us away from that dark road. knowledge is power, one gift either by chance or by a higher power is the internet. It has connected people from all over the world, given people a voice to stand up against many tyrannical or unjust situations. At the end of the day nobody knows, until its proven through science or a alien craft lands outside my house, or Allah transcends the boundaries of all being and all knowing to a physical form, What is the point of arguing. Just follow your gut, make the right choice, tell the truth, help someone in need, don't cheat, don't steal, don't kill, be a good person. One simple thing to finish off, consider this when making decisions, " How would i feel if some one did that to me" Take care everyone and keep up the great discussions.
In Part 1 comments, most people were saying how nice the canadian man is,
in Part 2 comments, everyone is saying he's cold and not willing to accept new ideas.
He might be one of those People of Desire, they take their whims and desires as God and grow arrogant.
lol
جزاكم الله خير .
Having been an atheist>agnostic before Islam, I can attest that MH nailed the arrogant, narcissistic superiority complex of both deniers towards the end of the video.
I feel kinda bad for max cuz he sounds like a really good man but he doesn’t wanna accept that his argument right from the beginning of it was flawed
Hijab as usual trying to trap people. Stupid argument when he believes in a made up god.
@@Keysersoze786
You are just hating now.
You’ve shown dislike for Hijab, and you have something against him tapping people?
He took Max’s argument, and then he used it against him. That’s what you do in an argument.
You debunk another’s argument and try to prove your argument.
@@SonoftheFortunate typical Muslim way of debating. Trying to trap people and ganging up on people in speakers corner. I don't like hijab yes. As he's sly. Look at what he does in debates. He edits videos in his favour like he did with the debate with cosmic, he deletes comments from the youtube comments section of his videos. Guys a fraud.
@@Keysersoze786
Again by saying typical Muslim you’re not only stereotyping every Muslim, you’re also indirectly saying only Muslims do this.
The whole point of the argument is to trap someone and show how their argument is wrong.
You don’t have evidence to back your claims.
You say he’s a fraud and now have claims you would have to give me evidence.
You say he edits his videos in favor of him, but rather he doesn’t edit the video at all it begins and I never see a cut.
You don’t like Hijab because he’s smart and he can trap people using their own arguments.
You claim he’s a fraud now give me your evidence so you can get me to believe he’s a fraud.
@@Keysersoze786 if you resort to attacking Mohamed hijab instead of his arguments, it's an instant loss for you
Bro Mohammed, just use these two quotes in such situations :
“A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”
-Cambridge University astrophysicist and mathematician Fred Hoyle
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“Fred Hoyle and I differ on lots of questions, but on this we agree: a common sense and satisfying interpretation of our world suggests the designing hand of a superintelligence.”
-Former Harvard University Research Professor of Astronomy and the History of Science Owen Gingerich, who is now the senior astronomer at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. Gingerich is here reflecting on Fred Hoyle’s above comment.
11:55 dude in the back...mood
😆
Muslims and Christians both believe that God is all powerful, all knowing and all present.
WOW,,, now I see that brother standing silently is a very intelligent brother too!!! Hell, I might the most stupid of all people in the world... :D ... But I accept Allah and His messenger!!!
If yu believe ALLAH yu not stupid your KING
This guy max is subconsciously good at being persistent on his self contradiction
If following the logic of the argument (that the probability of the universe's creation by a random process is a tiny tiny tiny number) then this argument in itself brings into doubt the existence of an omnipotent God. If there is a probability that the universe was created by random chance - no matter how small of a number - then an all knowing and all powerful God could not simultaneously exist in such a universe since there is a chance - again no matter how small a number - that the universe was not created by his will.
I am not trying to disprove the existence of God. I am only pointing out that although the argument is well worded, the logic is flawed. Too bad Max didn't catch this as it would have kept the argument going. This was one of the bests so far. Very civil and thought provoking.
There's an even easier way to counter this argument. The universe is not finely tuned. It randomly turned out the way it is and in these conditions life was created. That doesnt mean that if the universe had turned out differently that there wouldn't be life. There is probably an infinite amount ways the universe could have turned out where life would be possible, its just that it turned out this way. So its not finley tuned. Its just the way it is.
This Max guy so brilliant!! Is he a computer programmer or math genius!!! I am impressed because I am weak at algorithm!! :D
upload the full content plaese!
This video is the proof of Araf Surah 179.🙈🙉🙊. Muhammed Hijab 💪👊👏👏👏💕💝
All we Muslim love you Hijab
Maaan jibawi.
People you met in speakers cprner was just some random freaks on a walk. This guy is a learned man
( QS Al Baqarah : 29)
( QS at Tin : 4 )
was there a part 3? i cant find it
This guy got something very wrong about his "laws", something most atheists and agnostics (and even theists) have trouble understanding.. that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics explicitly states that the universe is always INCREASING IN ENTROPY (increases disorder) which is exactly opposite of what he purported that a spontaneous reaction would occur resulting in formation of complex molecules (decreasing entropy). This is one of the most basic tenets of physical chemistry: formation of molecules decreases entropy (non-spontaneous reaction - less disorder); splitting of molecules increases entropy (spontaneous reaction - more disorder). The man contradicts himself by asserting that complex molecules would eventually form by random collisions (decreasing disorder), while basic physics taught at the highschool level tell us that the universe is in a state of increasing disorder.
For those that don't understand entropy/degree of disorder, please see images below for clarification,
1) sites.google.com/a/ramapocentral.net/ap-chemistry/_/rsrc/1307101737329/chapter-16-spontaneity-entropy-free-energy/entropy-and-spontaneous-chemical-reactions/entropy%20again.gif
2) images.slideplayer.com/38/10822801/slides/slide_12.jpg
3) clearingcomplexity.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/ordertodisorder.png?w=640
This is my favourite debate so far.
It's so frightening to witness living example of Holy Quran verse to experience people who are "Sommun Bukmunn"
well max looks like he is boiling up from inside....
If infinity doesn't exist, as a concept, so philosophical, why do we have a word for it? And if anything is possible.....
And yes, there could be a quantum world where the agnostic convinces you your religion is wrong, and a quantim world where you prove your religion to him.
The real question is, why do you find it so important what the agnostic believes?
I think its important to have discussions about what is right and wrong. So its important for someone to not accept only whats his intuitions are based upon but also the objective reality..which many finds each other spot on.
This was beautiful 👊
I feel like if I was talking to him I would have to lower my gaze he is very attractive and what he’s wearing isn’t appropriate
Appropriate is a relative term.
Mans hijab is from his belly button to his knees so it would not be haram. But in appropriation i dont have any comments.
One thing I was will is that atheist just dont want to believe no matter how much evidence is put to them with cop out arguments like "i cant say" or "i dont know for certain"
the ONLY pertinent question to argue with an agnost or an athiest is to answer from where did all this MATTER present in our universe came in first place into being ???? and secondly where is this FORCE which is letting all atoms and molecules to interact in different ways is coming from ? AND THAT IS ALL !!!!
he came so high with his probabilistic and fell so hard. he got cornered and tried to come with something else
When he talked about the universe probably wasn’t created by a force and gave the example of the marbles and in you’re hand he contradicts his belief because he rejects the ballon example with the Big Bang theory because he said the ballon or you blowing it wasn’t there but his example of the marbles in the hand is okay but you are using you’re hands to move the marble ... come on bro it’s highly probably that the universe was created my a force because I not only agree with the ballon example but I also agree with you’re example of the marbles because I do believe in a force that created the universe. So now I ask myself the question is this “force” that created the universe .. does the “force” have a name, is it intelligent? And I personally believe so.
If there is randomness in the universe why not our earth has collided with another particle and got destroyed over millions of years?
AWZ SmartPhone becuase of gravity and gravitational pull
+AWZ SmartPhone look up.....
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130214-biggest-asteroid-impacts-meteorites-space-2012da14/ Fortunately, none of these were large enough to completely destroy our planet, but there's still a lot of smaller residual debris still out there....estimates based on what's being found in desert regions puts the figure at around 50,000 per year within the 10gm - 1000gm range....but as our planet is 70% water, most end up in the sea....................... you are just lucky to be living in a relatively 'quiet' period of Earths history...the chances of you being hit by a meteorite is about the same as you throwing a stone into the sea, and hitting a fish !! I'm guessing that you had a 'limited' education, judging by your question (and the type of video's you watch) so may I suggest that you continue to ask yourself many more questions, and 'google' it before posting ....try more 'science' subjects, less religion, and a lot less porn...ooops! sorry...... I only mention it because Muslim males currently spend more time than anyone else on 'dubious' sites..... but no doubt, you are the exception to the rule....:-) .www.muslimsandtheworld.com/do-muslims-watch-pornography/
That is the most misused response/answer to this question. What on earth has maintained that pull/push force that doesn't disobey for a split of a second. Randomness can never bring a conscious order that lives for billion of years.
These baseless answers are nothing but to deceive our own selves.
They say we came from monkeys, OK then why don't we get organ transplants from monkeys i.e. kidnyes, eyes, etc.
They say our tail bone is extra, OK, then why don't you cut it down?
foreversurfingthenet
The meteorites isn't what I am talking about, there are trillions of stars , planet and other objects with a variety of sizes swimming within the skies, why has a big planet such earth, or bigger start not collided yet with the earth and split it into parts for trillions of years.
AWZ SmartPhone gravity brother lol why can't we believe Allah made gravity
Does anyone knows who this guy 15:16 the guy with white top
Mohamed doesn’t answer question…he only asked questions…he doesn’t give his own points..
This may seem like an odd question, but does anyone know Br Mohammad Hijabs height? He seems very tall in this video.
I ask this because I think very tall people can be physically imposing and it actually helps people to listen to them. I believe Anthony Robbins is an example of this.
He said he is 6'6 1/2.
Max you just had him exposed..... haha 😄
Hijab is not scared he fight with all TR gang himself the toughest in SC
He probably unsure that he himself exists
What did the guy at 06:24 say?
This guy max is to cocky having a conversation with him would have me going from 0 to 100 real quick I’m talking about hulk smash!!
He said blinkered lol...
I wonder how the reasoning would go if the guy said its 50% and not less than 1%..
Loren Korlaet the probability of a randomized universe is almost infinitely small. Look up Roger Penrose , the atheist cosmologist that discovered this
FOr every reaction chemical or not, you need particular condition my dear friend MAX!!!
Your argument should be put in the philosphical dust bin.!!!!!! His British English s funny.
The universe is not fine tuned for life. The universe as it is, exists as it is, and life has arisen from the conditions of the universe. If the universe was different due to a different configuration of physics then life *as we know it* might not exist, but a different form of life MAY arise within that different set of physical rules. There is no way to say.
SingularityMedia if Life adapts to the nature of the universe no matter how it is than why isn’t there life on other planets?
1:06 ngl I laughed
Last few seconds of this interview how he says he got put into a trap. That's a good thing though ... he should be convinced?
Hijab is deceiving
is that Paul Rudd??
He feels like its a set up because he accepted the probability argument but he is the one who set himself up. Even though he tries to accept a different standard (empirical evidence) Br Mohammed was willing to explain to him how he is still wrong, and it's an even weaker standard. He just couldnt accept that in this subject, theres no way around it, the truth is clear and he can't accept it because he doesn't like it and it feels like a trap :/
This dude is difficult..he bathes in his ignorance
It must be hard to talk to ignorant people
If there is 0.0000001% probability that the universe have been created finely tune randomly without any "higher force" or some sort of intelligence, what is the remaining %probability are for? Giving the probability for any like of computer programs or operating systems or even any finely operating tools are created by some sort of intelligence(human) is 100%.. Doesn't that means the universe is created by 'someone' and not randomly is the most logical answer?
Why is Max's behaviour so cold? This should've been a fun debate about discovering new ideas and theories. Sadly, he had already made up his mind even before listening to the other side
Ok so I'm Muslim however this is something that I have an issue with. Brother hijab has established here that there is no logical possibility of an infinite number of universes however how can we know that there isn't just a large number of universe and this one just happens to meet all the requirements for life? Afaf
It is still not infinite bro. There is always a barrier blocking numbers to reach infinite
How tall is Hijab?
What is less than 1% of infinite? A lot more than the probability of anything probable on the earth. Your bloon expanded into something otherwise it couldn't expand. If a scientist had this argument with you then you would call them gin.
ما شاء الله ورور محمد حجاب سره مينه لرم
It’s not a trap max if anything you trapped yourself starting a conversation with you having no clue in what your saying cause at the of it all you went back and agreed with everything he was speaking about... max max max come on get it together lol
His claim that just because you can conclude that everything goes back to one point, it doesn't necessarily mean that was the beginning. However, his arguement is flawd because according to Radioactive Decay dating, the elements of which make up the observable universe all date back to a beganing. Meaning, before this particular event, the element's didn't exist. Thus the universe didn't have any mass. Which conclude the singularly. This kid is delusional.
This agnostic pledged to cling with the best term of His forts and it was Probability with evidences. Brother Hijab at 360deg pertinently speak keeping the sought method alive and when the conclusion time came and the narrations solely, evidently and logically comply with certainty(not even probability) then this person speaks absurd. After applying all rational and relevant senses,principles, intellects, time, expounding and examples its lie, arrogance and ignorance to utter out that U r trapped into the best criteria that u urself had sworn. Appalling failure! And Allahu SWT knows the best.
I used to be unsure.
But this debate made me realize..there is only one way to look at the universe...
Atheism.
the world is just out there? Uhu makes so much sense lol
PirateTHESteam1 yeah you watched a 20 min video and you were sure abt ur beliefs . How ignorant can u get
Phaahaha you have already made this comment on pluto in a different universe
then you must be dumb cuz hijab disproved it
Md hijab bro i have a question that does islam give us persmisson to wear shorts like ur wear? just asking?
How tall is this dude.
6'6 1/2, as he said.
The Canadian is far more open and intelligent than hajib.
who created God? GOD 1.
who created GOD 1? GOD 2.
WHo created GOD 2? GOD 3
we can go like this forever...or infinity. cos if you talking any logic/reasoning.....matter cannot exist (nor force) unless created by the external force of something else.
so the only answer has to be infinity.
infinity has no start, nor beginning. therefore there cannot be a single creator. we and everything around us arose from random mixture of stuff in this never ending infinity where anything will occur at some point in time in infinity. this is all we can say
Kenny X “we and everything around us arose from a random mixture of stuff”
Umm....where did that “stuff” come from?? Either someone put those stuff there or they just “became”. And things can’t just “be” because then we would have tons of things just bursting out from nowhere everyday right in front of our eyes. And if we arose from a random mixture of some random substances wouldn’t this “infinite” universe(s) be flooded with an infinite number of creatures all infinitely circling around us?? And if that’s the case, with a world so infinite and random what is the probability that no one has found us or that we haven’t found them?? In a world so infinite what is the probability that we( planet earth and it’s inhabitants) haven’t been crushed by some random star for an infinite number of years if there is no external force dictating exactly what happens in this infinite universe.
We muslims don’t believe that the world is infinite. But we understand the concept and are able to argue and make our point. That’s why we don’t claim that there is a second god that created God. This world is limited. Time is limited and the number of gods are exist are limited because there’s just one.
Just imagine, an INFINITE number of objects floating around and colliding every second, and an INFINITE number of stars bursting into flames and nothing has yet destroyed our plane for the 4.5b years that it has been around, not even a star has burned a little close to us and engulfed us in its flames. And you think it is all coincidental??
When you say who created "God", you are not referring to a "God" anymore because in this case he would be a creation, when you keep going with that infinite regression theory: Who created God's God, then who created the one before that.... etc, then there is no God and we are all creations. Which brings a point, what was powerful enough to start life? And what was powerful enough to start it? And what was powerful enough to start even a higher, older cause that created that?... etc. You will find that your brain ends at a deadline, which will bring you back to the first step.
Conclusion: There is only one God, who wasn't created, but started all creations. Any other theory has nothing to do with logic, but with pure ignorance.
Time itself is a creation, God cannot be a part of the creation, therefore for god there is no past present or future, that concept is for us, there has to have been a creator since matter doesn’t just appear out of thin air
There's no evidence to jump from finely tuned to it being an intelligence. You need evidence not just assumptions or probabilities.
at 10:40 the atheist confessed that he's arguments r weak
Wahida Begum keen eye for the words being spoken you have there 😜
Omg that is hilarious. I liked your comment Max
Pure dordyoh antics man 😂
The real world has intelligent operating systems and algorithms similar to cyberspace. Real-world operating systems and algorithms are smarter, more complex than operating systems and applications of cyberspace.
If the real nature of random events and trial end errors will be found many former natural process failures.
Just give him a copy of translated Quran and let him read it.
The probability that life and earth came to existence is 100% because it happened..
The reason probability exist is because we don't know.. it's unknown for us and that's why we put possibilities but everything is doomed to its faith.. I'm not a Muslim by the way
Man that Canadian guy was having to dumb down his arguments so much. It was almost cringeworthy.
Muhammed's style is so belittling and infantile. I mean he's a showman, and he's very confident yes...........but he doesn't address the arguments posed, he just wriggles, answers his own questions and makes facile analogies. Man. So silly!!!
No doubt everyone shit scared of him
This debate is cringe worthy especially at 5:40
No man dare to fight with Hijab
atheism and its scientific pretensions!
What a joker
Why people always tryin to be diffrent we are slaves of god accepct it
Why would a 21st century man waste time debating a 7th century sheep herder?
À sheep Herder that 1.5 billion people love ans talk about him everyday , what about you, no one knows you and once you'll leave this earth you'll je forgotted for ever ever ever lol
Because they've infested Western nations.
Even the man you called a 7th Century Sheep Herder with billions of followers today is still pitying you now in heaven.
So the Muslim guy believes that he is not gonna die today, because it's probable? The argument he is setting is stupid
Ramadan Masri i believe you are a Muslim? Well in Islam it's always said that you don't Know when you will die and so you should always expect that you might die today.. so will you believe that you are living today just because it's probable? The probability that you will die today is 0.0000001%.. 99.999999% that you will live today.. but it still doesn't mean that you won't die today is it?
Ramadan Masri there are approximately 7 billion people on earth, and on average a 1000 people die every single day, that's how I did the math
Ramadan Masri and it doesn't matter that's not the point of the argument
Ramadan Masri even according to your numbers I did the math again and the probability is 0.0002% that you will die in any day, ofcourse now you are alive but I'm talking about the fact of what's the probability that you will die tomorrow.. you see it's not probable that you will die tomorrow, but that doesn't make you have a strong believe that you will live tomorrow. We should always say we don't know
Ramadan Masri I didn't reject the probability that him living tomorrow is high, infact that's exactly my point. But it doesn't mean that he should *believe* that he would live tomorrow.. eventho we know it's probable and I agree that it is because it's still not a fact that he will live tomorrow, it's just strongly probable.. Islam taught you somethings that you don't use and that is to say that everything is possible. And I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic.. atheism believes god doesn't exist which they don't have proof of. Agnostic people just believe they don't know. I hope this clarifies your confusion. I believe the idea of God is probable, can fit logically, but it doesn't mean it's true.
sorry there are serious problems with big bang theory that could break it for example hyperflation it means that at some point it expaned faster than light witch would contradact current physical knowledge soo therefore we cant acualy say that stuff that happend before hyperflatin were because physics then were different even time it self is faster or slower depending on mass and speeds for example photon moveing at speed of light is at start middel and end at same time. also as i said before it cant be said it can be 0-100 % depending on numbers of diferent univerises. also now about your argument that its weak argument that you have been shoot by alot of bullets and all missed you is not weak argument at all. in fact its a fact because if you would been hit by bullets you would been hit by bullets and saying im here because bullets did not hit me after being shoot means bullets did not hit you otherwise you would be dead. your logic there is realy flawed. on what bases you say that by not being abel to get info from out of our universe we could make any conclusions about outside universe. all real sientists would disagree with that. it has main basic problems outside our universe constants dont need to be same there fore we can not say anything about outside of our universe. its widely know fact that we living in 4 dimensional room would not be abel to see 5 dimensional being. no you cant make conclusions about whats outside based on what inside easiest example is closet in space in albert einstin relativity if you are in closet in space thats moveing you wont be abel to understand if you are moveing. i must admit that you are clever spokeman and you easily foul people like him.
The Canadian was really bored of this as he had to dumb down his intelligence to deal with the lad in the pink vest.
oliver MARKS butt hurt .
@oliver, what premise did you have to make such an absurd comment? OR what would be the opposite case to make at the Canadian guy from the "pink vest" to not look like a "dumbing down of intelligence" based on your intelligence?
M Omar whilst I appreciate your attempt to muster up a coherent sentence in what is possibly your second language, it would be fair to say your question is a jumbled mess which makes no sense whatsoever.
@oliver, You seem to be suggestive of your hypothetical linguistic superiority while failed to understand a grammatically valid sentence. While I dislike indulging in any unnecessarily illogical discussion in a public place like this one, your comment intrigued me to ask you regarding your position on the context.
Let me rephrase my ques, "How the Canadian guy dumbed down his intelligence?". Hope that helps you out.
M Omar you should watch some Neil Degrasse Tyson videos and you will then appreciate the verbal diarrhoea coming out of the mouth of our friend in pink. It is commendable that our friend in pink tries to construct arguments and topical points BUT it is obvious to see he isn't an expert in any field. Like I said ..Neil Degrass Tyson will be a revelation if you haven't watched any of his videos.