Could Turkey Invade Syria?
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Turkey has been involved in the Syrian Civil War essentially since it began, but with mounting pressure on their border and with concern about Kurds rising, some think that Erdogan might choose to actually invade Syria.
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Calling Russia and Iran as Turkey's "usual ally" is incredibly wrong. Russia and Turkey are historical rivals. Their current cooperation in some areas, do not change this. Iran and Turkey are also rivals in Middle East. The relationship between these countries are worsening since the 2020 Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict as it changed the balance of power in Turkey's favor.
When they need to confront Russia and assure Black Sea dominance, they're NATO's most faithfull ally. When they get rejected by the EU time and time again because they are turning into a dictatorship, him and Putin are best pals. The best definition would be: Turkey is nobody's ally and everyone's enemy.
That's true, we just deal sometimes with Russia, but Most countries do it too
And who helped Iran bypass the sanctions? And who is currently in US prison? And which bank will be subject to billions of US dollars for violating sanctions. Turkey is the enemy of the West. The sooner the West realizes and takes action the better.
This guy is biased. he doesnt like turkey and gives wrong info on all his videos lol
@@hallabajja This guy is a Turkish troll and tries to cover the truth that embarrasses the Turkish fascism in any way. Turkey is known to have paid trolls working on the Internet to cover their fascist imperialistic agenda against the Kurds and Arabs. Turkey is an authoritarian regime, like Iran and Russia, who try to control public opinion on social media. This is a proven fact see many articles in Western media
It's actually the best time for a Turkish offensive into the region, Russia is busy with the war in Ukraine and their Iranian allies suffer from internal problems with intense riots going on for 3 months now
Then wouldn't Turkey's economy shatter too
@@karankapoor2701 not really they wont be able to stop turkey not even a little turkey has far more military power than all the groups in syria
if turkey invades, they will either reinstate assad or make a puppet government in syria.
@@karankapoor2701 Nobody is going to give Syria the same kind of support Ukraine is getting so Turkey can invade without the threat of any reprocussions.
@@karankapoor2701 turkey is 40 times stronger than syria
Okay, I feel like you're leaving out a couple of important things. The areas you claim are controlled by Turkey are actually controlled the various groups of native Syrian opposition against Assad, that are backed by Turkey. The Civil War has 3 sides: Assad, the Opposition and the Kurds. And even further, in response to Turkey's previous incursion, the Kurds joined forces with Assad in some areas to shield themselves. That stopped Turkey from going too far.
Ofc they wouldn’t mention it their channel is obviously propaganda driven and not impartial.
Being controlled by puppets isn't much of a difference, with Turkey being right there.
@@phoenix6048 propaganda for whom
The news channel is called TLDR, of course they're going to leave shit out. Are you slow?
@@florianschneider3982 For the western audience, duh. They won't even call YPG a terrorist organisation but instead "democratic syrian forces" or whatever despite everyone knowing they are just rebranded PKK which is recognized as a terrorist organisation by everyone. They have the same freaking flag how much more obvious can you get? This channel has this weird stance of trying to appear objective or whatever but still clearly have sides that they are on. I wouldn't mind them clearly having sides if they weren't always not saying everything they would actually want to say. They are clearly holding back to be more mainstream or something I guess. And your average for business news outlet isn't gonna be a good source of information when it comes to who is right or wrong. They just tell what happened while intentionally not telling certain things which they consider to be "contentious." This is the best way to look at them but the "contentious" things they are not mentioning are sometimes, well, not contentious at all. It is not necessarily propaganda that is meant to be subversive but rather a propaganda-esk style that is aimed at keeping their western base happy and comfortable.
Man, these political alliances in the middle-east are really convoluted.
See also factional, territorial, tribal, mercurial. Aka "expedient", therefore not binding, it will work until "it doesn't".
@@arfajob4246 lol american politics are extremely tribalistic.
America occupies the east where they steal oil 66,000 bpd every day. The Kurds are US proxies. Russia & Erdogan are working together. Syria will not mind if Turkey beats up the Kurds. US position weaker. Expect a colour revolution in Turkey any day now. lol
@@lmao2351 yes they have become more so, but they still don't hold a candle to the Middle East.
In Iraq everyone concurs with Peace.
For the first time TLDR seems to be missing a point. Russia is currently too occupied with Ukraine and may not be able to stop Erdogan. Otherwise, Erdogan would have thought his position twice.
Don't worry, USA is here to make the final blow and destroy the Turkish economy if turkey goo too far
Not the first time they miss a point.
They have Intervened before Ukraine. Not to mention Russia supports the Regime not the Kurds
@@jaredkronk4614 no really, they have never send their own troops there. Plus If Turkey expands to Kurd territory, then that is still away from Syria. Meaning that NATO could still expand.
@@jaredkronk4614 that's not the point
They can't be everywhere at once so sending troops over to Syria would be a bad move as they need troops in Ukraine
4:03 you are very wrong here, the Syrian Democratic Forces were never a real opposition to the Assad regime, the main opposition was the Syrian Free Army (SFA) which fought bitter battles with Assad Army, Syrian Democratic Forces are Kurdish forces whose aim is to establish an autonomous Kurdish region in Syria and Kurdish country as a vision, original they were called PKK but with ISIL merging as a global threat in 2015 and western powers were fighting them they rebrand themself as SDF.
PKK is the Turkish organization, in Syria it’s PYD. And the militias are YPG/YPJ.
@@florianfelix8295 both are kurd and both are same.
@@florianfelix8295 Same leadership you wont find many syrian kurds in the upper echelons there was a classified paper on helping the PKK rebrand themselves in Syria as a different organization they are the same terrorist group.
@@florianfelix8295 right
It's not a "rebranding", and they are not the same. The philosophy, goals, and means are quite different, even though there are historical connections.
Having to choose between Iran, Assad, Russia, and Erdogan is a truly horrific prospect.
Each is somehow worse than the other
and the US is the worst of them all
robert, you forgot usa!
Imagine completely ignoring that the US has been trying to regime change Syria and supported Islamic extremist groups to facilitate this.
So you guys chose to support terrorists! Stay out of the Middle East you terrorists
Crazy that Syria is where Russia keeps its Black Sea fleet. Really weird that a country on the Mediterranean is a port on the Black Sea… or maybe you just misspoke
Edit: and again, 6:58 … whose allies? Turkey’s? You already mentioned how Syria has usual allies in Russia and Iran, but calling those two Turkey’s “usual allies” is such a weird thing to say. Russia and Turkey are geopolitical competitors and rarely support the same side, which you already mentioned when you bring up Assad’s friendship with Russia but Turkey siding with rebels… so, what are you talking about?
He's just trying to paint a world in which all the bad anti liberal guys are allied together. Of course Turkey is in cahoots with Russia Iran china north Korea and whatever you want! Proof? They have none but who needs that, when you can just believe whatever feels right
Totaly agree on "Eşit" section. People not seeing the "Political Game Between Turkey and Russia" and just calling it "Alliance" is at this point is too absurd to be even funny. These two nations are literally at their throat in every geopolitical fronts and they are just getting sometimes along for "not escalading too much to not benefit". Russia and Turkey are "friend" If both benefit. They are "rival" If they dont benefit. No love or romantic feelings.
"Black Sea Fleet" is the name of the fleet in the Russian Navy. The Russian naval facility within the Syrian port of Tartus is operated and controlled by the Black Sea Fleet
They all 3 have ambitions to grow beyond their borders and are all constrained by Nato.
These nations are not allied by principle but by their need to undermine international order, both from within and without nato to achieve their corrupt goals
@@seanphurley Awwww how romantic... How naive you are to romantize such a thing as this? Turkey wants to grow its influence cause everyone doing in its backdoor, Iran wants to form a muslim Alliance cause of their ideology and we know what Russia is doing. Russia and Iran are allies because they have common ground but Turkey? Bruh. Just a huge Bruh. Turkey is a NATO nation. And dont be so romantic no one is evil or good in salt realpolitik. Why we dont talk about shenanigans of USA in here or UK or France or Germany?
Turkish interventions was the result of huge refugee numbers, coming from Syria, due to the destabilization in the region by separatists of any sort + Syrian goverment. Turkey alone is hosting 6-8 million refugees Which is huge problem since they do not share neither a common language with locals nor education. But the channel is creating a perpective to make someone "fighter" and the other "invader" on purpose.
Classic western media.
That's how ignorant and Turkophobic they are .. Until Turkiye launched an operation in Syria in 2016, there were already 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkiye. How can they blame Turkiye for this? If you want to blame someone, blame the Westerners who used ISIS to invade Syria. Years have passed and they are still hungry for oil.
Just a news from yesterday: ''French cement giant was sentenced to $778 million in Fines and Forfeiture on 18 October after pleading guilty to the US' charges of providing material support to two designated terrorist groups, including Daesh/ISIS and al-Qaeda.''
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Kurds are not the primary opposition. They’re the currently Western backed opposition.
They aren't even opposition XD
They are just terrorists
While also they recognize that the PKK is a terrorist organization.... the game the west plays here is more than nasty.
Thats fake news. PKK is on the world terror-list. While Erdogan and Turkey are NATO allied with the West. You seem to forget u hypocrits. Didnt Erdogan just meet with Israeli foreign minister? Get your facts right fooo
@@rojvankoc7252 They have US troops that are embedded with them. They also threatened to destroy Turkeys economy if they didn’t stop the invasion. YPG in Syria is not on western lists. Maybe Turkey should find better friends lol
YPG as an opposition to Assad? Hardly. The best you can talk of is that YPG did not yield territorial control to Assad which Assad would hardly have the troops for.
Kurdish government waging war against Turkey? What government. It's PKK, through its Syrian branch YPG. PKK is regarded as a terror group both by USA and EU. YPG is described as Syrian branch of PKK in US State Department reports.
Euphrates Shield and Spring Shield operations were against Kurds? A quick Google search would show you that they were not. YPG was not even involved in the Spring Shield operation and only got involved in the Euphrates Shield because they started moving against ISIL as well to deny territory to Turkey moving against ISIL.
Iran is a usual ally? What? While its an honest mistake to call Russia an ally of Turkey, rather than more accurately a necessary partner due regional realities, Iran is in no way an ally of Turkey.
@@giorgioviras8266 Hosts? Since when?
@@giorgioviras8266 Al Qaeda doesn't and Hamas, with it's debatable status, doesn't have training camps for it's fighters. You need a better comparison.
@@giorgioviras8266 And I understand your need to alter the facts to feed your apparent Turkophobia.
İts so biased and unprofessional
@@giorgioviras8266 Al-Qaeda is a terrorist organization recognized by the Republic of Turkey and does not have an office in Istanbul. This is completely false information. As for Hamas, even its status is disputed. There is no training camp, no weapons aid, nothing. You are probably Greek. Greece, on the other hand, openly supports the PKK terrorist organization, which Turkey defines as a terrorist organization. Weapons, equipment, ammunition, financial support. In fact, the PKK terrorist organization has a Lavrion training camp in Greece. Greece trains and supports terrorists. Do you think we should invade Greece for this reason?
We stand with our Turkish brothers, from Mongolia
"Usual allies, Russia and Iran" ??
where's the lie? Prove otherwise?
@@jibjub2121 Russia and Turkey are fighting two different proxy wars in Syria and Libya for years now how can they be "the usual allies"? All the relation between Russia and Turkey originates from the desire of Turkey to have more leverage with US. Turkey doesn't want to be dependent on US and thus uses being friend with Russia as a threat. Russia also doesn't mind internal crisis among western countries so it allows it with joy. Iran is even futher of being an ally of Turkey. Turkish and Iranian drones are fighing against each other in Ukraine today. The block of countries Turkey(Erdogan) generally cooperate with in the region are Azerbajan and Qatar. Azerbajan is being ruled by also another dictator and both dictators are supporting each other. The ethnic close ties of these nations are very suitible to present this relationship to people in a very patriotic/nationalistic point of view but it is nothing more than bromance of two dictators. Qatar is also very similiar. Erdogan is less successfuly trying to present it as religion brotherhood to it's more religious supporter base but Qatar and Azerbajan are few of the main sources of corruption in the country. Both of the countries in the block have directly conflicting interests with Iran and are obvious enemies. Which make the claim of Iran-Turkey "usual allience" more than absurd.
he's full of s**t. Iran and Russia are the usual enemies of Turkey and everything Turkic.
@@guilhermemelo1307 oh sorry i thought you meant Iran and Russia
@@jibjub2121 oh right, it's my original comments fault for the misunderstanding sorry
You are continuing to make mistakes that you have done a month ago. So I am copying and pasting my past response.
7:40
You have a mistake about the electoral threshold. The electoral threshold in Turkey does not apply to parties in an alliance when only one member of the alliance passes the threshold. So, MHP has no problem with the threshold because of the electoral strength of AKP. However, due to recent changes in the Turkish electoral law, minor parties will have a hard time winning seats in the parliament, including MHP. Hence, you are kinda right about the hard path in front of Erdogan in parliament, but your reasons were wrong.
Why should parties get a pass because they're allied with bigger parties? That sounds so unfair
Last time I checked, there was a lot of smaller one-seat parties in the turkish parliament in both blocks.
And i will just continue to ignore you ,, is good fun :)
@@cazwalt9013 erdogan changed it in 2017
Then why send a message?
I am a Turk of Kurdish origin. I say this with pride because Turk means all of us, our common roof, our house. The most beautiful definition was given by the Great ATATÜRK: "The people of Turkiye who founded the Republic of Turkiye are called the Turkish nation." That is the end of the matter for me! May my blood and life be sacrificed to the great Turkish nation. May my existence be a gift to Turkish existence! Our goal is not occupation, we are fighting terrorists who mercilessly massacre civilians.
Impressive
The realization of the essential ideology of Atatürk and the love he had for us all no matter of who our fathers are and how we look, will lead to a peaceful and united Turkish republic as our founder envisioned it
Ataturk who called kurds mountain turks and because of him kurds were oppressed so you're officially brainwashed
@@cazwalt9013 What´s your source on that buddy? Kurds were Kurds for atatürk, but he wanted us to unite as a nation, not as an ethnicity. Big difference u bafoon
@@cazwalt9013 You think made-up stories are real, but they are not. Thanks to the Kemalist Revolution created by Atatürk, we were freed from being the servants of a sultan, the personal property of a landlord. Thanks to the Turkish Revolution created by Atatürk, we became free individuals. We became presidents, ministers, deputies, doctors, generals, etc. in the Republic of Turkey. Many of the richest families are Turks of Kurdish origin. We owe a debt of gratitude to the Kemalist Revolution and Atatürk!
Yes
Free Syria Oil and Gas would solve Turkish economic crisis.
Kurds are based in Turkey not Syria
(1.37) Uncontrolled privatisations always benefit a few olygarchs and never the common citizens.
Representing them as a sign of progress is naive to say the least. In my experience, they never end well.
This is a neoliberal channel, don't even bother
Yup
Syria has backtracked from it since. Its economy now is more of a mixture between socialist and capitalist, some form of economic protectionism
Why did you not mention that every relevant country considers PKK as a terrorist organization? By the US since 1997 and by the EU since 2002 and many other countries. They did cause a lot of civilian casualties in Turkey including babies in cradles for DECADES. PKK is not the representative of Kurds in Turkey. I understand that YPG is not considered a terrorist group by Westerners just because they fought against ISIS, but for Turkey's context YPG is the brother group of PKK(Again internationally recognized as a terrorist group). A terrorist group fighting against another terrorist group is STILL a terrorist group. They don not become more innocent just because they did not shout Allah-u Akbar while shooting at civilians, The West should stop this hypocrisy.
It’s the West. You should expect hypocrisy, lies and fraud.
Turkey is a bigger terrorist group, they had their own holocaust and never even said they were sorry.
agreed
Turkey is the biggest terror state after the US then. You have bombed so many civilians even the Russians don't think of surpasing you.
I think the turkish state is all too happy to claim any turkish opposition group is somehow PKK-connected and crack down on them all the same.
Turkey can argue purity when they've looked at their own proxy militias in Syria.
It's quite funny how this channel manages to talk about Turkey-PKK conflict for minutes in many videos without ever saying PKK is an internationally recognized terrorist group.
There's been enough proof that turkey was actively supporting the islamic state during the syrian civil war so i don't know if that makes things better.
@@onur62dersimos Such as? And how is it related?
I'm from the future, both Turkey and Syria invaded by earthquake
The fact is the Sunnis were slaughtered in Syria.
"Their usual allies" "kurds are seeking democracy"lmao you couldn't have done a more biased video. The guy literally said terrorists wants democracy in Syria
found the Ottoman.
The real terrorists are AKP and Erdogan. Munafiqs are what they are. Getting paid in euro and dollar.
Tell me you don't understand Syria, without telling me you don't understand Syria
To be fair, trying to understand Syria at this point would require doctorate level dedication just to suss out all the participants, much less the motivations or anything else. The whole scenario is literally the reason behind the "Modern civil wars be like" meme.
@@EbonySaints not really, just talk to someone like me that is a Syrian and understands the politics
@@maherhamadouch2005 What is happening in Syria?
"As their name suggests"... looks at North Korea and China O.O
Guess Putin isn't the only one with dreams of the old empire
Obviously Netanyahu talks about Judea and Samaria.
@@skp8748 oldest one is the Iranian empire
This isn’t about old empire. It’s all about oil in the region. Thats why america gives weapon to pkk.
The Kurds aren't really in opposition to Assad, they are actually in fact cooperative with each other.
FOR THE LAST TIME ITS NOT ABOUT KURDS its about terorrist there baby killers
Would you mind explaining that if Kurds are cooperative with Assad. How does the US come into it I thought they backed some of the Kurdish groups
only after Turkey started bombarding them with airstrikes and the west didn't protect them from Turkey although they were extremely effective in fighting ISIS.
Turkey economy does not have strength to attack but only if Erudgan cares about it.
Damn I use to think TLDR knew what it was talking’s about, but after reading these comments idk anymore 💀
he reading western media and saying same thing here. he have no idea about world.
Tensions are high and this is a contentious topic. They really didn’t do so bad but on topics like this people will make a big deal on smaller mistakes. You should just see TLDR as a general overview channel, don’t go to them for nuance and they are alright
You can get a general idea by watching them, but not everything they say is true, they are kinda biassed like most of western media.
Yeah, he's missing a lot of important details and is just explaining this from the western perspective. But I wouldn't trust most of these comments either. There are a lot of Turkish nationalists who are blind to their country's sins and will say any lie to protect it.
Turkish nationalists always gets upset when people tell them they can't threaten Greece or something.
Turkey and the EU have pretty bad relations right now so people are going to disagree wildly.
The US should send stingers and javelins to the Kurds ASAP
Sooner or later YPG will eighter give up and deliver the area back to esad or will cleared by Turkey. Its just inevitable. Turkey never gonna let tens of thousands terrorists to live by its border.
Their whole military is for terror.
Turkey's regime running turkey is the real terrorist here.
@@TheBf666 ask anyone in Turkey included kurds YPG is PKK. No difference at all. Not just a regime issue.
It’s always the second son who wasn’t groomed for power that ends up screwing the pooch
Not necessarily. Not a second son but the second daughter (third child) of Henry VIII, Elizabeth i was one of the best English monarchs. Edward VIII was so stupid he abdicated his throne to marry an American divorcee, meanwhile his brother's reign saw Britain win ww2.
"All politics is local," as the aphorism goes.
turkey was never allied with russia and iran in syria, i would like to know where you saw that claim but it is totally bs. all those countries support opposing sides in syria.
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This way of advertising Skill Share might spread anxiety among some viewers what those in power just helplessly stumble around into making potentially catastrophic mistakes. That's not as much as issue in this video as it is in those that talk about topics around nuclear weapons etc.
But even if we ignore that it could lead people to think that those in power aren't to blame for their actions and mistakes because similar to kids they didn't know what they were doing.
My suggestion would be to slightly change the advert to something along the lines of _"If you want to understand the motivations and decisions of the people involved and improve your logical decision making then you sponsor Skill Share can help you with that."_ or something similar, so that it's focused on the viewers ability and understand than baselessly questioning those of our politicians.
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Frist of all calling Russia and Iran Turkey's allies is propaganda playing "ignorant". Turkey is NATO member so its actual allies are USA and others... Second - both Russia and Iran are now extremely "busy" so the only reason Turkey did not invade Syria already is probably USA opposition to that....
Again the Kurds how no friends but the mountains
im not sure but i think you made a Mistake . Putin uses Syria and to be specific Latakias port not for the black sea access but because thanks to it he has access to the Mediterranean Sea . bs German/Syrian fan here
This is a good video and the context you gave was good until you started talking about the sides of the civil war where you missed a couple of things. One, you forgot to mention how the war started out as a popular revolution to topple the dictatorship of Assad. Two, you didn’t mention the Free Syrian Army, how it was formed by officers who defected from the Assad’s army and how they almost toppled his regime if it wasn’t for Russia’s intervention in 2015. Three, characterizing the SDF (Kurds) as the primary opposition group is inaccurate: they’re not anti-Assad, but more like non-Assad group that seeks to rule the northeast as an autonomous region. They have rarely clashed with Assad and have actually held talks with his regime and formed alliances in the past. The main opposition group that damaged the regime the most was the FSA until they were bombed out of existence and manipulated by foreign powers, mainly Turkey, and plagued by extremism. I’m not judging you guys though because I know how complicated the topic of Syria is, so kudos for getting everything else right. And your analysis of Erdogan’s motives to invade are totally reasonable, you just need to look at past elections to see how he always does this before any election.
I can foresee all the Russian trolls seething that Turkey did not get sanctions over their Syrian invasion. "Western hypocrisy", they will cry. 🤣
But that's still true. Turkey should get sanctions if they invade
They probably would get sanctions though. Turkey's relationship with America and NATO has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. I wouldn't be surprised if they are expelled from NATO within the next decade.
They got sanctioned last time
Kurdistan is inevitable.
Not in turkey and syria i am sorry :)
You forgot to mention Iran that has forces in Syria too.
Turkey will go as far as it deems necessary to sufficiently distract its people from domestic issues.
This has nothing to do with internal affairs. It is desired to establish a Western-backed terror state on Turkey's border. This is a question of survival for Turkey and Turkey will do everything to prevent the establishment of a terrorist state. This is state policy, not party policy. We will continue to operate until we neutralize the terrorists and ensure our border security.
@@Melankolian3 Which is why Edergon just happened to cancel the June 2015 elections where a Kurdish political party got more than 10% of the vote and launch a military campaign against Kurdish fighters ahead of new elections in November. Yes, I still remember, even if that's fallen off the radar.
Erdogan will continue to use the Kurdish conflict as a useful political tool as long as people like you keep falling for it.
@@westrim The 2015 elections were not cancelled, but he passed the threshold and entered the parliament. This was not our topic. Our topic is terrorism. As I said above. Turkey will not allow the establishment of a Western-backed terror state on its border. Turkey will continue to operate for its own border security. This is a matter of national security. Open and clear. It has nothing to do with being fooled or not.
Syria is historic Turkish land and sooner or later it will be liberated.
This could be the death nail for Erdoğan not only will his actions pissed off the West but will also put both Russia and Iran in a more difficult position than they already are.
The trend of your production team simply text captioning over flubbed script lines instead of shooting another take (5:11) is really amateurish and shouldn't be tolerated, especially with your goals of being seen as a legitimate professional media outlet.
We are watching this for free
Give them a break
Why would you never acknowledge PKK as a terrorist organization even once and made it sound like they are like a civil right movement spreading pamphlets? They were responsible for most of the human and drug trafficking in Europe up to a decade ago. PKK is acknowledged as a terrorist organization in the majority of the world. Your "news" especially when it involves Turkiye feels really opinionated.
Full support to Kurds
Full support to TURKS
It’s important to remember that Erdogan has had 2023 circled for a long time.
There's a time where Syria is one of known richest land in the world, but now it's just rubbles
That's what happens when a people let dictator strengthen his power too much.
In Roman times, maybe. Not for a long time since then.
Syria, never. Assyria maybe
As other people have already pointed out: You didn‘t consider the fact that Russia is currently pretty occupied with their war in Ukraine. It cannot easily divert resources to Syria since Ukraine is much more urgent to the Kremlin. In this matter, the current situation regarding Russia‘s involvement in Syria is quite similar to that in the Caucasus. Armenia was invaded for the same strategic reason in terms of Russia. Russia is currently weak and other powers like Turkey, Azerbaijan, China, India, and even the EU want to exploit that. Europe may get gas from Central Asia, Turkey can flex it‘s muscles in Syria and China and India get cheap energy.
A lot of the smaller central asian nations that used to be puppets and allies of Russia could start shifting to another regional power. China, Iran, the EU etc.
@@SusCalvin Exactly! I doubt Iran will be very influential. I guess it‘s between China because its trade routes and the EU for its energy needs.
Some Allies are more dangerous then enemies…
Everytime a 'People's Replublic' use for a name, it always equate to Maoist communism, like People's Republic of China. North Korea named itself 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea'.
When you said the 'People's Republic of Kurdistan' is a democracy in the making, well I believe you.
North Korea is not maoist. Far from it. They have their own ideology, juche, or self reliance. The fact that North Korean has a supreme leader, who gains power by birth right, like the kings of old, is a huge contrast to maoist principles where a Congress elect the leader
Are you accusing Rojava and similar states, which are borderline anarchist, of being stalinist-maoist?
I'm going to be less ideologically picky when the alternatives lined up are al-Nusra, the ba'athist dynasty or the IS.
@spartan You could've just said, "I know absolutely jack s***t about politics." And left it at that 🤣
Speculating a group/state/government's political position on their name alone is downright absurd.
the YPG and Rojava (the region they control) are Libertarian Socialists closer to anarchism and the Neo-Zapatistas than the CCP. If anything, they are in direct opposition to the authoritarianism of the Marxist-Leninists.
Assad forces❎
Syrian arab army✅
Ok guys love your content lets start a voting session on this channel. It will be fun.
Usual allies Russia and Iran lol clown
Saying the Kurds are "the primary opposition against Assad" shows you dont understand anything about Syria.
They're actually an ally of Assad at the moment. The so called "Turkish controlled areas in Syria" while not entirely incorrect, because yes Türkiye has influence in the area, its still a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Local Syrian militia are in control some supported others opposed by Türkiye.
Another misrepresentation is that you show ISIS as a major player (the black calligraphy banner). ISIS hasn't been relevant for a long time now.
Türkiye's involvement in Syria is supported by at least some Syrian rebels, as were the offensives in Ayn Al Arab/Kôbaní and Afrin. Most probably theyll be welcomed as liberators instead of invaders.
IS remnants are still around, but they aren't near as influential as before. IS was best at grabbing headlines.
The turkish-supported proxy groups in Syria look a lot like an auxiliary of the turkish military. They show up in conflicts outside of Syria, fighting for Turkey.
@tldr theres a background humming when you talk which makes it harder to listen for me
Over the coming years and decades I can see Turkey looking to expand it's influence and even territory. Although a Basket case politically, it is perhaps the most economically powerful country in the area. Memories of glory years can be very long, and a theme with Strongman Leaders seems to be a return to a glorious past, however imagined it really is.
Ottoman Empire 2? No time soon, but later - in some version - perhaps.
The current inflation rate in Turkey says otherwise.
@@SusCalvin it will go down to 40 percent till year end
@@SyedHussain-er5nm That's still crazy high lol
@@SusCalvin We're entering weird times in global economics. Despite its high inflation, real GDP growth in Turkey was still positive in 2020, even when most economies in the world experienced contraction. The High inflation is definitely bad, but the fundamentals of the Turkish economy are solid, and the Turkish economy is far more resilient than most westerners think.
I think the people who lose the most (apart from the decrepit) from Turkey's high inflation are the investor class, domestic and foreign. Hollowing out Turkey's investor class may be very harmful in the long run, but foreign capital was always going to dry up anyways as the babyboomers of Europe and America retire and the velocity of capital begins to reverse. You might even argue that the Turks are more experienced in dealing with the low capital environment we're entering and that they're already prepared to deal with it.
@@SyedHussain-er5nm yeah sleep tight
We won't my friend
But I can't tell the same thing for the Greece
Didn't you already made this video?
turkish invaded syria to toppled assad regime but also killing kurds
Does it do this by building schools, hospitals, briquette houses and living spaces in the regions it buys?
@@thranduil9761 no,but more than 30000 turkish troops invades syria that make turkish syrian relations is -85,i dont like both but better turkey
@@thranduil9761 Yes, I have seen schools teaching young syrian kids to do the gray wolves sign.
It's disgusting, what you are doing in Syria now.
Would you want USA army to occupy regions of turkey and make turkish kids pledge the USA flag as you do in Syria now?
aaaaand more controversy in the middle east again....
One thing is for sure...
Turkish drones slap hard.
Ask the Ukrainians how good they were. They got shot from the skies in the first 5 days after they were given to them xD
They sure weren't all that helpful in Ukraine
"Usual allies Russia and Iran"... Did y'all spend like 5 mins on this entire video?
Bring ur propaganda away with you!
I get the general Erdo hate here(myself too) but the issue can’t be butchered to him only and Turkey got blamed by “the aim of supressing kurds”. This is very bland. PKK has formed in the 80s and done many massacres by killing Turks (& Kurds), kidnapped many children to make them soldiers and made many suicidal bombings around the country. You can always fight for your cause on the local and global area, but not by killing others and make bombing suicidals, you form political parties, organizations and shout your cause. Ocalan was the main figure of PKK and still heronized by the flag people carry attacking streets in Paris. On the personal level, Turks do not have problems with Kurds. Yes, 90s military movements are brutal, but it’s similar on the vietnam situation with USA where they did not figure who’s friend and who’s not(that does not overshadow the problem and it was wrong).
There is a kurdish state in Iraq and the turkish government are actually working with them to fight with PKK since the kurdish state is also suffering from PKK. YPG is the syrian branch of PKK and people can be easily fool by the “nice words” on “being democratic” and “helping the country stable” and “protecting social rights like animal rights”, these are the basic tactics of them and even some left-wig turks fool for this when HDP(kurdish party in Turkey) make such claims (and they’re showing their true faces by protesting everything about Turkey-even for Ataturk). The 2 reasons why Turkey captured areas in Syria was the Syrian civil war with it’s destabilized control of the area which in return results bombing of our cities from the border to the innocent people’s neighborhoods. Also we have an unofficial number around 9M syrian refugees in which we can’t maintain the issue and some syrians even don’t want to live here anymore(also don’t want to be in the hands of Assad), thus maintaining these areas help syrians who moved there to be able to work securely without fearing of Assad or constant bombings.
The world is not white-black boys, don’t make these issues bland and blame one side on everything. Even Russia is blamed for Putin where I would bet that putting anyone but Putin will not change that when all of the sectors are run by oligarchs and they rule the country for the most of the time.
I worry about his comments regarding a Neo-Ottoman era. Reading his speeches and his parties plans on furthering this objective, seems too " Nova-Russia". And since then he has actively occupied territory in fomer Ottoman's land.
Idk, I think his party is more nationalist then they let on.
THİS İS NOT TRUE ALL YOU SAY ARE NOTHİNG BUT WESTERN LİES BELEİVE ME İ AM A TURK AND THE WORD İNVADE İS THE THİNG WESTERN MADE
UP İN TURKEY WE SAY DEFENDİNG YOURSELF SİNCE YOU CANT DESTROY TERRORİST WİTHOUT DESTROYİNG THEİR BASE MONEY SOURCES YOU ONLY DELAY THEM AND AGAİN THEY COME THEİR MAİN BASE WAS İN SYRİA AND İRAQ BACK THEN AND NOW ALSO THERE
This "neo ottoman" narrative are propaganda. Turkey presence there is Justified as anti terrorist operation thanks to adana deal
Hes a dictator
There is no neo ottoman but there will be neo turanism
They are simply protecting the turkmeneli
TURKEYS USUAL ALLIES AINT RUSSAI AND IRAN. Get your facts straight. I don’t think you understand the sensitivity of politics in the Middle East. 7:07
TDLR it is not Turkey anymore. The Republic of Türkiye changed its official name from The Republic of Turkey on 26 May 2022 in a request submitted to the Secretary-General by the country's Minister of Foreign Affairs.
The best time for Turkey to invade Syria was in 2017/2018 prior to the collapse of the so called Caliphate. The next best time is today.
Not another war...
With the frizz no way!
Wars have been happening everywhere as we speak. Just because your western media is only focusing on Ukraine doesn’t mean wars haven’t been happening before
its not "another" though, syria has been at war for years.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 exactly, Europeans think Ukraine is the only war that exists 😂
Wars are happening all the time, it's only because it's a country near NATO that the west cares.
I've just love the fact that instead of butchering his name you referred Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu as the opposition leader! I mean he is, but we all know why you didn't say his name hahaha
oh that scumbag?! who gives a s@$t.
The whole world knows that Erdoğan is not requestion or demanding land from Syria . Turkey just doesn't want a terorist kurdish state . Why is Esad doesn't takes actions with Turkey to get his land back from these terorists?
Hes literally a dictator who openly talked of having an empire.
Turkish regime funded ISIS terrorists in the past and wants to establish themselves as THE islamic state after ISIS collapsed. They are the real terrorists.
@@TheBf666 Literally blocked the UN from crossing the border, but never ISIS recruits.
@@TheBf666 bruh Turkey has never funded ISIS . But Turkey funded Al Kaida related extremists in northen Syria which is not okay .
Because al-Assad and the ba'athists official position is that only the syrian-arab state and its officially invited allies like Russia, Iran, Hezbollah etc should have an armed presence in Syria and control all of her territory.
And now there's turkish army units and their syrian auxiliaries in a standoff with them.
There's a lot of groups al-Assad would like to be gone, but aren't practical to remove. It's not like he can start pushing US special forces and others out either.
Well, yes?
I just want to say everyone at TLDR has good english, keep up the good work!
You don't bloody say they're british
@@gustykraken I think technically that only supports his argument. hahaha
No its not posible.
The Kurds in NE Syria are currently operating one of the most deeply democratic systems anywhere the world - its pretty much unique. Remarkable given the opposition they face on all sides (even from Iraqi Kurds on their SE border) including a heavy embargo. It would be an utter travesty if it was crushed by Erdoğan, and for nothing other than to save his own political skin.
I found the book 'Revolution in Rojava' by Michael Knapp, Anja Flach and Ercan Ayboga a really helpful resource if anyone is interested in reading more about their fascinating system.
> The Kurds in NE Syria are currently operating one of the most deeply democratic systems anywhere the world
lol the most funny comment in YT history
@@brsc as a Mongolian turk of course you oppose the truth
democratic hahahahaa
For helping refugee and build them new life yes
It's an operation against the YPG which is an unconstitutional occupant armed force in Syria and thereby a terrorist organization, so calling it an "invasion of Syria" is misleading
Its trying to rebuild the geocidal empire.
No, it an operation against the kurdish. The kurds deserve their own country in TURKEY, syria, iran and iraq
Turkey has no constution saying it can be in Syria, and the Syrian regime has no legitimacy.
The Syrian-arab state and al-Assad says otherwise. But they say that about a lot of foreign powers. They don't like US special forces either.
@@Seth9809 I think al-Assad would like the US special forces and the french aircraft carrier parked outside to leave as well, but what can he really do to make them?
İF AMERİCA DOESNT BACK OFF OUR BOARDERS THEN WE WİLL ACT! WE WİLL DESTROY ANY THREAT ON OUR BOARDER! AMERİCA NEEDS TOO START ACTİNG LİKE A TRUE NATO ALLY!
Not sure, but it will be invading my oven again soon. 😂 Say no to war and yes to love!
sorry but anything you have talked doesnt make sense in turkey. please make more reserch from ourside next time
to paint the Syrian opposition as originating from the muslim brotherhood destroys the credibility of the whole narrative in this video. a little research as opposed to reading a wikipedia page would have made that very clear.
So much wrong information. Its bad
Not a matter of "could", rather will or when :)
MASHALLAH mashallah mashallah marhaba marhaba love respect and support Turkey and it's beautiful people from Pakistan 🙂🇵🇰🇹🇷🥰😍. May Allah SWT bless Turkey and it's beautiful people from Pakistan 🙂🇵🇰🇹🇷🥰😍
You forgot to upload this to nebula.
Didn’t Turkey change the way you spell their name to Türkiye? I think y’all should update the title.
If y’all want to.
Nobody wants to.
@@mitsaras102 that’s ok.
@@someguy6369 it’s still Turkey to us 😂
@@bababababababa6124 it’s still pronounced the same, but spelled differently.
@Zaydan Alfariz I guess.
this will age like milk
I dont generally believe in invading anyone elses country but in this case Turkey very well might be the best solution for Syria which is a disaster. I'm assuming they are anti Assad. The multiple layers of opposition are so confusing for Syria but my impression is that some kind of coalition government would not be immediately possible without an occupying force.
Well, technically our goal isn´t to invade all of the Kurdish held territory, it´s to secure the border to control immigration because some Kurds clearly abuse our trust and send their suicide bombers over instead of people in need
The only way I see this working is Turkish invasion unites all of Syria against a common enemy. Turkey entagles itself in Syria and eventually it has big toll on it's economy and resources and public sentiment forces Turkish forces to retreat back from Syria. Kurds and Assad can make some sort of agreement with Turkey. The country unites under Assad and his military dictatirship again
@@johnxina5126 Nah, it won’t be like that. Syria isn’t as easy as Turkey invading it making everyone forget what Assad did to them, or what the Kurds have done to a million Turkmen in northenr Syria. The war is in our favour no matter what, as we also rule the democratic Syrian forces
@@johnxina5126 I dont think so, thats true maybe for "petty" national political factions but these people have been in a civil war for 10 years, thats ripe for a complete reset and I cant imagine Assad will be part of that. Thats why hes so afraid just look at Saddam and Qaddafi. He will flee or likely die if he remains under my scenario.
@@adidoki Turkish Bot.
Syria going to a free market system was the worst thing to ever happen
Please also explain about the interest of USA in Syria?
Agreed I am confused because I thought the Kurds or at least one of the Kurdish groups were backed by the US
@@mgboltstwitch6921 it's the PKK/YPG that terrorize Türkiye since the 90s with attacks on civilians, murders, kindnapping and many more just recently they planted a bomb in Istanbul in one of the most visited pedestrian area. They are listed as a Terrorist Organisation by the Nato and the EU but still get weapons from the West. Allegedly to fight Isis but hey arming rogue terrorist organization never went wrong right? We have terrorist at the border that repeatedly attack us with Weapons given by the same people that acknowledged them as terrorists. Türkiye definitely doesn't intend to attack Syria, the plan is to install a defense Zone that is not inhabited by civilians so the Turkish military can clean out the terrorist without civil casualties, there is nothing in nother Syria of interest for the Turkish military. There is tons of footage how they capture terrorist in caves and tunnels full of mines and explosives. The West doesn't understand because the media doesn't show what's really happening. I don't even like the current government in Türkiye but i have to say this operation is necessary by all means.
Just resources honey.
The idea that starting a War on the Countries Border will get Him Votes is absurd I hope His wife explained that 😅
Not really Cartels in México adapt their operations to American election cycles...
TLDR is in a collapse ,I don't really know how long you've lasted this long
What makes you say this?
@@bababababababa6124 I’m very curious too lol
@@bababababababa6124 probably his love for sultan recep or maybe tsar putin
@@bigostradycyjny742 Recep Tayyip Erdogan is the best leader! He is being attacked from all angles!
I hope not. We don't need another Iraq, Libya or pre-Taif Lebanon. I hope the Kurds can beat back the Turks similar to how the Ukrainians are beating back the Russians.
Turkey might not press their ground forces too far into Syria right now, but they have their selection of proxy groups and mercenaries who can be a presence.
Paying for all this while the turkish economy does what it does is the big practical challenge for Turkey, I believe. It's been one intervention after the other for a while now.
Why are TLDR in Germany…
I don't think Turkey is a very popular member of nato for the US. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to exchange Turkey for Ukraine, Sweden, Finland and maybe even Georgia...
geopolitical location is the 2nd largest army in NATO after the United States and hosting migrants fleeing this war. imagine that all this is not happening.
Hahahaha:))
If they do, they’re the biggest hypocrites
Little Putin (Erdogan) is setting himself up for an embarrassment in Syria. His cute dream of creating a new Ottoman empire will blow up in his face as fast as Putins dream of a Russian Empire
The idiot who dreams of Kurdistan accuses the Turks of dreaming of an Ottoman Empire. Turks don't want to be like the Ottomans, they want to be stronger than the Ottomans. The Turks are getting stronger, which causes you to have a panic attack.
So far Turkey did 4 operation into Syria. 1 operation in Libya. Also Turkey helped Azerbaycan win war against Armenia. Drones had significant impact in all of these conflicts. Turkey was successful in all of these conflics. Turkey has air superiority numbers and experiance. Turkey will win invasion. But this invasion will be very small. Turkey wants to secure 30 km from borders. This is significantly smaller invasion then Ukraine which is seccond biggest country in Europe by land.
Erdogan isn't forming the ottoman empire or anything like that. that is only a dream that he is sellilng to his voter base. He doesn't even do anything that has any long term purpose. the whole bullshit he is doing in foreign policy had only one purpose. to distract people from internal issues and secure more power and autorithy. why do you think he opposed finland to join nato because they had pkk member in their parliment? is it because this action was in line with turkey's benefits? or because erdogan wants to use it to survive domestic crisis? why do you think he is coming up with an operation in syria every time there is a election? maybe he only cares about it because he wouldn't win the election if people would talk about domestic problems? why does he create a sudden conflict with greece? because of course he wants to creaete patriotic feelings in people and use it to secure his election. everything he do in foreign policy has no other long term pupose than securing him the chair. after all this time he literally destroyed every relation and damaged every allience turkey was in. he acts in complete oposite of turkey's actual benefits and destroy the countries relations, economy, values, people, education, law, and of course democracy.
Another one bites the dust.