Were they ever friends? Turkey fancies itself as a major regional power and would naturally try to tread the tightrope of allegiances to get the best perceived outcomes.
Dictatorships are never really friends. They are just temporally allies. WW2 already proved this. When nazies and soviets were allied for short period of time.
@@johnroach9026 don't you mean china? turkey just needs money because erdogan messed up the economy. they don't help russia for ideological reasons but for money. and erdogan is also flexing (ie controlling bosphorus). china is also ducking russia over behind the curtains whenever they can. russia doesn't have friends. i don't expect countries not to jump on opportunities.
The same way Putin and Xi Xinping are "friends". They're only "friends" whenever it suits them, but they're always pointing a gun at each other behind their backs. Dictators don't have friends.
The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend. The Christ Angel version. The enemy of The Christ Angel is the debt of the Russian Economy, The Chinese Economy, The American Economy, The European Economy. It is also their enemy. So that means we are all friends.
I'm not surprised, Russia has set an interesting precedent by performing and recognizing a unilateral referendum. I don't think Turkey would be thrilled if its Kurdish population decided to do the same.
I mean, Unilateral without unbiased oversight and going door-to-door with ballots with footage showing armed troops following nicely dressed people with ballot boxes. A referendum is not something you hold during a war over contested land.
Also interesting, because this too puts Serbia/🇷🇸 in a pickle as they surely prefer Kosovo/🇽🇰 not being able to claim if they voted (again on independence) it would be legit. Their asshead president/semi-dictator even said as much.
Turkey may be looking for a bailout of their economy at some point soon. The money won't come from Russia, so it is reasonable to think there are conversations going on and strings are being attached to the money. Self interest. But Turkey's economy is their burning fire right now.
@@ij4674 he isn't talking bad about Ottomans he is calling Erdogan a neo-ottoman wich is rhetorically correct. + the West won't help an economy dictated by a single man , that part is also correct. Nobody in their right mind would do it.
@@OljeiKhan The west won't help anyone who don't follow their "dictations" whether it is one man or a bunch. He was implying "ottoman" in a negative stance.
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” ― Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs
Neither are friends to each other. Russia and Turkey are historic enemies and nowadays still have serious opposing geopolitical interests. Putin and Erdogan are realists that dont let the beef they have get personal. They have a lot of opposing interests but don't let that ruin the common interests.
@@memezmemez5176 Turkey and Russias ideals are not that different. Its just that Russia is the one actually capitalizing on those wants at moment! That really p*sses of erdogan.
Turkey has and was helping Putin a lot but it looks like Putin and Russia are a lost cause now. It is like having a really good friend who starts taking drugs or becomes an alcoholic, starts acting anti-social, starts attacking family members, loses touch with reality and at some point you just have to say "Sorry man, we can't be friends anymore". Putin and Erdogan were playing the same geopolitical game of trying to win influence in many countries (often on opposite sides) but Putin made a lot of mistakes in Ukraine. You think Turkey, India and China does not see all the failings in Ukraine(Bucha, corruption, military blunders, civilian deaths, crazy rhetoric, threats of nuclear war, blowing up of pipelines etc)? They can tolerate it to an extent but at some point, they are just going to say sorry bro "you are batshit crazy" you need help, I can't associate with you anymore. That is how I see it anyway.
When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Erdogan issued statement saying Russia wouldn’t dare to invade Ukraine had Western countries showed a proper response to annexation of Crimea in 2014.
I'm not certain that that's true, however I am inclined to agree even if it pains me to agree with someone like Erdogan. I also was highly disappointed by the lackluster and later on casual treatment of the EU towards Russia, mostly due to economic factors. Pretty disgusting, in the same way as trade with China today is disgusting - it seems we haven't learned our lesson.
I have to agree with Erdogan on that, if the west showed a much tougher response on Crimea years ago, Putin likely wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, he did so because he thought the west was weak and divided, the west was and still is divided for the most part but Putin didn't understand the scale of what he's done that's united the west for the most part. There is also the EU aspect in all this, if the EU had its own voice on the military and forign policy, the EU members pool their resources in those areas, I doubt Putin would have invaded Ukraine, it's our division on why he took advantage of Ukraine and the quicker the Europeans wake up and see that and start working a lot closer together, the better.
I said the same thing. Also, if Ukraine took the threat seriously when Russia was amassing their border and met them at the borders with NATO weapons the outcome would have been drastically different.
@@lVideoWatcherl I do, I think if NATO had genuinely slapped Russia as hard as they should have Russia wouldn't have even been in a situation to wage this war right now. Not to mention us just saying "NO you can't do that" and then doing absolutely nothing is totally why Putin had the utter audacity to invade Ukraine I bet money if we had taken a actual strong stance on Crimea Russia would not have even tried the rest of Ukraine. Putin attacked Ukraine on the pretext he wouldn't get much more blow back than he did with Crimea.
Even India is tired of Russia too, not just Turkey. Modi had urged Putin to stop the war, and Putin responded by waging more wars, its puppet foreign minister Lavrov ditched the Indian delegations and instead talked only to Wang Yi. Like Turkey, India will not leave Russian sphere easily, but India is no longer happy with Moscow anymore.
That has always been our position. Since the day the war began. Read any of the statements made by Indian officials since the war began. Only uneducated western journalist and the sheep that follow them believe that India changed opinion recently
@@miguelcoutinho16 The things he mentioned happened before Russia's sham elections. India wasn't expecting such a move from Russia and is confused how to walk on tightrope since India's economy will suffer if there isn't cheap oil source, not to mention our weapons are majorly Russian.
India isn't neutral. At the beginning India was one of just a few countries who refused to condemn Putin's killing of civilians. Recently India refused to condemn the annexation of the 4 Ukrainian regions. India has now increased its purchase of Russian oil to over 2500% while Indian news media eagerly report every slight Russian gains while keeping reports of setbacks to a minimum.
It is pro-Russia but anti-China, and it's largest export market is the US and the largest import market is China, it's basically in a sempiternal balancing position
Erdogan does not see any countries or leaders as friends. He has a deep distrust to every country, including his Nato allies, and co-operates with the ones that benefit him most. He is only interested in preserving and solidifying his own power. This is why he makes seemingly fast movements in foreign policy, to benefit from the current situation. The unpredictability is important in showing his potential voters that under his leadership, Türkiye is a powerful power in the region that everyone needs to take into account. For example, Erdogan is by no means a very religious person, but he is flirting with islamists, just because they support him in elections.
@Chemya The difference is that with us here in the west, we do actually share certain values and goals. Dictatorships can theoretically manage similar relations but their fragile longterm nature tends to prevent lasting alliances.
You explained it very well, congratulations. In the first 10 years of erdogan and akp, there was a democratization process unprecedented in Turkish history. close relations with the west. such as language and broadcasting rights for the Kurds. but then he chose to be an autocrat.
@@Arcaryon Recently, a dictatorship has begun to spread in the west. it was caused by the social democrats. dictatorship and its consequences will determine the next 10 years.
Turkey: "We're going to stay neutral in all of this." Also Turkey: "Dude, you gotta stop this and give them back Crimea, we're not taking your credit cards anymore." Putin: "See, the West is trying to encircle and destroy us!" Turkey again: "Bruh I've been playing the West against itself since before you were Prime Minister, I'm not taking their side you've just screwed yourself so much even I can't take your side. This is as good as neutral gets for you now."
This is just realpolitik. But it is interesting that folks that played the middle are either bolting for the West or are getting increasingly uncomfortable. Russia's miserable performance in a war where they had overwhelming advantages AND now that the Ukrainians are retaking territory says a lot about Putin's fall from grace as a strongman. President Xi must be both irritated at Czar 'Bloop' Putin and their friendship without limits (that clearly has limits) and the resolve of the West, who Xi pegged as weak and feckless.
In a sense everyone (even outright allies of Putin) are suffering from this war. More than anything I think both China and India wanted this thing to simply be over but Putin wants to keep escalating things further. This war isn't making anyone happy.
Yeah I think countries like China, Turkey and India thought Russia was a very strong country and Putin a smart man doing what was in the best interest of his country but it looks Russia is more of a liability than an asset at this stage. He basically makes The West look good in comparison.
I'm not very keen on Erdogan. But nonetheless I found the roll he was playing, out of self-interest or not, was a usefull one. Regardless how this goes, at some point we will need a mediator that can be perceived as neutral.
Self interest in this case was Turkey's interest more than personal interest. A bit disingenuous to talk just about his own self interest and not Turkey as a whole.
Yea, but I'd rather not have it be a religious wanna be dictator. I know that western standards aren't everything, but we should really not throw human rights to the waysides, whenever it gets in the way of any kind of politics. (looking at Chinese concentration camps and Saudi-Arabias... everything really)
@@Otek_Nr.3 I'm not talking about Democrats, they're center-right. Many in the American left agree with that sentiment. Yet we don't hold the requisite power to affect change
I don’t see why we would need a neutral mediator. Russia wouldn’t leave Ukraine no matter how sweet the words the “neutral” Erdogan whispers in Putin’s ear. Military force is what is currently kicking the Russians out. We also don’t need a “neutral” mediator afterwards. Russia either accepts the Western terms or continues to suffer our sanctions and the odd mysterious pipeline explosion in Siberia.
Turkiye was the first to demand returning Crimea to Ukraine since 2014 and was the first to help Ukraine militarily, not only now. It was the first NATO member to take that position, before the U.S., before Britain, before France, and certainly before Germany
@@beta3522 Nukes isn't valid. They have been more aggressively threatening to use Nukes recently, why turn around AFTER that? Clearly nukes weren't the reason, Turkey is in Nato too and therefore if a single nuke flies towards Turkey, countless will fly towards Russia.
A small addition: Erdogan’s claim of “Crimea must be returned to Ukraine” dates back as 2014 where the invasion happened. The reason of this is the mind of Crimea belonging to Crimean Tatar(which is based on Tatar Turks). You can search for the article “Turkey's Crimea Connection: Why Turkey Cares What Happens In Ukraine” in International Business Times
I don't know, this just seems like Turkey acting as it always has. They've never really been a friend to russia in this conflict. Closing off the straight to warships for example.
I believe it would be theoretically unsound to speak of friendship amongst modern nations as it would entail some sort of altruism, nations are motivated by percieved interests, and it's in Turkey's interest that former Soviet countries such as Ukraine remain a buffer between Turkey and Russia
@@jamesw1659 you are right, a realist axiom that is as true today as when Henry Kissinger said it and Henry John Temple before him and since time immemorial
Fair enough, but it's getting harder to stay on the fence and say they're only doing this for self interest. China would like to maintain good relations with Russia because of their wide border and a large economy to export to. But with the struggle Russia has had taking Ukraine and angering the West, another large buyer, China has pulled back on it's support while trying to remain positive. It benefits China to be on Russia's good side, but this war doesn't do anything for authoritarian governments, retaking Taiwan, easing global food issues, and it will be years before they can even buy cheaper natural gas and oil, and much of what has been cut off from sanctions can't be provided by China.
Not necessarily Turkey will also like buffer countries to be under Turkish influence defended with Turkish made military equipment(such as drones, tanks, MRAPS, IFV etc) , Azerbaijan, Syria, Libya, Kazakstan etc
@@OneRichMofo The problem with that strategy is that you hardly gain anything by doing that. In theory Turkey had far more to gain if for some reason they decided to join Axis, but also far higher risk. That could have screwed over Russia. If USA also joined late to the party like usual, then the winner could have been completely different. Even joining allies earlier into the war would have gained them more benefits for sure.
Misleading title and thumbnail. Except for 2 or 3 countries that we call brother, we don't see anyone as friends anyway. You can replace putin's photo with the photo of any nato member country's leader with peace in mind. Same s.
I guess it depends how well his economic policies hold up. But considering they are all the opposite of modern economic theory, he probably will need a miracle.
Considering Turkey sits at a key geographical region being the link between the Black and Mediterranean Seas, this shift away from Putin could severely hamper Putin's naval forces in the Black Sea.
The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend. The Christ Angel version. The enemy of The Christ Angel is the debt of the Russian Economy, The Chinese Economy, The American Economy, and The European Economy. The debt is also their enemy. So that means we are all friends.
Video should be titled as “Erdogan ditches his friend Putin” instead. It’s Erdogan and his government’s decision to look ‘neutral’ due to growing fear that they won’t be able to win the next elections. Economy that they deliberately weakened prior to the pandemic now cannot survive without Russian gas or Russian tourists. On the other hand, the country ‘Turkey’ has been a NATO member for the past 70 years because of Russian menace. Many of us have lost our ancestral homes, our families, great-grandparents to the murderer Russia. Our Empire that lasted for centuries fell apart mainly due to decades long wars with Russia. I’d like to emphasise once again. Nobody suffered more than Turks in the hands of Russians historically. Russians and their centuries long ambition to reach warm waters of Mediterranean cost millions of Turkish lives. I salute brave Ukrainians who fiercely fight to defend their land. 🇺🇦
Ukraine kicking Russia out of all its territories would turn the Black Sea into a Turkish lake. Erdogan appears to be a student of Alfred Thayer Mahan's theory of maritime control. He is very aware that Sweden and Finland joining NATO puts a stranglehold on Russia in the Baltic, giving Turkish control of the Black Sea much more strategic influence. Russia should start to worry more about its other "ally," China, who may start to see wresting control of Vladivostok from Russia as a relatively easy way to increase its influence in the Pacific.
The rhyming at the start with "Since the war in Ukraine began, Turkey's president... Erdogan", had me really hoping you were delivering this one Dr Suess style...
Off topic, but didnt Turkey change its name to Turkiye? Why is no one calling it that, news outlets, Wikipedia, google itself. Did I miss something, I would love someone to clear this up.
Again; as a Kurd who hates Erdoğan with a burning passion -- He did not force Swe/Fin to take a "hawkish stance on the Kurds". He forced them to take a hawkish stance against PKK. PKK does not equal "Kurds" That's like saying Aum Shinrikyo equals Japanese people.
"That's like saying Aum Shinrikyo equals Japanese people." it isn't, because you'll find way, way less Japanese supporting Aleph as you will Kurds supporting the PKK. I'm not suggesting all, or even a majority of Kurds support the PKK, but to compare their support levels to Aleph is obviously exaggerated
Turkey and Russia have never been friends in fact they are historic enemies. Turkey's position was entirely pragmatic due to their economic issues and reliance on Russia. But now its time to choose sides and choosing Russia would be suicidal.
Tbh, only group that had power to attempt that coup were the kemalists in the army and the Gülen sect. Gülen and Erdoğan already sacked the Kemalists 15 years ago so only one that can do that coup is Gülen. To everyone else it might sound over the top, but any Turk who lived 2010s would tell how much influence Gülen group had on everywhere since 90's. To education, justice, police and army to media and politics. They were everywhere and nobody could go against them.
@@seadkolasinac7220 Remove the Erdogan and regain control of course. After the Kemalists were dealt with only ones that can be a threat to them was the other party. These two behemoths of influence tried to remove each other and apparently Erdogan was winning since until the coup Gülen sect's (or "Cemaat" as we called them, Now Fetö) influence dropped considerably except the army.
@@seadkolasinac7220 gulenist People also tried military coup in uzbekistan back in 1999 but they falied there as well.. İt is not only turkey. If you have gulenist schools in your country bad news for you
I always thought it was the Kemalists. Them being significantly weakened by the AKP and Gulen was why the coup wasn’t particularly strong, and fell apart. Ultimately IDK though.
It's all about the sham referendum. Follow Russias lead and any country can hold a referendum just by saying so. Send a few troops into a country, hold 5% of it, hold a referendum with amazing 99% positive results and you can say what you like. Greece would love it!
Le seul problème est que le résultat du referendum reflète exactement celui des élections de 2014 après Maïdan. Il reflète exactement la partition de l'Ukraine : la moitié est pro-russe tandis que l'autre (l'ouest) les terrorise depuis 8 ans (arrestations arbitraires, viols, meurtres et autres exactions). Contester ce résultat, c'est cracher à la figure de la démocratie que vous prétendez défendre en soutenant un gouvernement criminel.
@@OljeiKhan coz they could hold a sham refendum themselves over disputed territory. My point is Russia can't be allowed to get away with what they have done. We have to face the threats. If not any country can go around holding completely and obviously daft referendums.
Terrific recap. Turkey and India have increased their leverage appreciably in the last 12 months. Erdogan is uniquely qualified to assess when an oligarchy is teetering.
The banks were private. The state owned banks in Turkey still accept the Russian card. So if the move was "presumably under direction from Erdogan", it would have been the state banks not private ones.
In erdogan's Turkey there is no such thing as a private bank regardless of the fact that it is still a private bank... As a foreigner try and get anything done and not have to go through the rules and regulations as well as the laws that apply out of Ankara. This is true also of their communication systems Yes sure you have private cell phone companies but they all have to go through a central government owned and controlled system. I believe this is his attempt to put pressure on Russia while at the same time keeping his capability of buying cheap energy through the state owned banks. This is always transactional with him, think of Trump only Turkish
@@marcm. I think Turkiye is simply asserting its independence by not following the usual convention. Putin doesn't even know what MIR is and has probably never even used it. MIR sanctions can't be used to pressure Putin who may see it as a blessing in disguise. If all those military aged people evading his draft can only access their cash in Russia and nowhere else why would they leave.
I used to watched ur channel when it was only audio ..I think that was a better format ...also have u considered seeking help to fix your posture..you are young ..I think it's fixable
@@fixpontt they brought em (at low amount) after 2014 invasion of crimea, the newer crafts are donations from the company after the fundraising when the company say to use the funds for humanitarian purpose and donate at least 1 drone as a 1:1
Despite what everyone may think, Turkey has tried to play the part of a Neutral. I don't for one minute support Putin but NATO and America have not helped either. Going back through NATO agreements, they agreed not to continue to encroach on Russias borders and America also agreed. Take a look at any map of countries now in NATO and you can see they broke all the agreements. That does not give Russia the right to go to war but would cause total mistrust between Russia and the West. Turkey has tried to get the parties together to talk rather than go down the road to WW111. They arranged the release of 600 personnel from Russian forces, while the West did nothing except ramp up the war effort. Both parties need to TALK. Putin has backed himself into a corner, with no real way of ending the conflict, except Nuclear. Thats not a wise position for anybody. We dont want WW111. nobody wins anything.
As a Turkish I can say that Turkey was always against Russia in Ukraine war and always supported Ukraine, also recognised Crimea as a part of Ukraine since the beginning. Because it is some kind of red line for Us. Crimea does not belong to Russia. Also Turkey never wants Russia increase its borders, it is a threat for future. Turkey may have had good relations with Russia but they both had to. Actually it was not good relations, it was good communications which both countries preferred. Communication does not mean being allies. I hope that Ukraine will get Crimea and other lands back.
This video is very informational and interesting. It's like listening to a spy story with double, triple agents playing cloak and dagger operation. The story never ends and the saga of course will continue till next time :)
Erdogan is that kind of person you feel you can never trust, and so prefer to make sure he always walks in front of you. If he claims to be your friend, you just make sure to be even more watchful.
All politicians are liars, not just Erdogan, but Erdogan takes it to a different level. I like only one feature of Erdogan: the man speaks the lie like his mother tongue :D
The hosts of TLDR don't live in a place with an independent foreign policy so they assume in Turkey we do the same as them.. Turkey can play both sides and surprisingly for TLDR, it does.
Turkey was never supporting Russia, it's obvious which side Turkey wanted to win. Ukraine, Turkey literally gave them a ton of weapons and Bayraktar's but you can't expect Turkey to oppose Russia fully and clearly obviously because of strategic and political reasons. Come on now.
Turkey is in a unique position because they control the Bosphorus Strait and the Dardanelles (Strait of Gallipoli). Naval and Merchant Shipping is impossible without Turkey's permission to pass these ocean chokepoints. This is why Erdogan can upset other countries and nobody will react punitively.
We are neither friend nor enemy of Russia.Turkiye doesnt have a luxury to choose west or east since Location of Turkiye in the world map is unique.Also Turkiye is an independent country.Thats why Someone who sided with Turkey will never lost.Also Turkiye supports union of Ukraine as a Nato ally.Usa did so many things to stop and divide Turkiye too.Coups,terrorist attacks,sanctions,ambargoes but still Turkiye is alive.Something that didnt kill you makes you stronger.Thanks Usa and some Nato +Eu countries 🙂
Maybe wealthier countries who love shitting on Turkey should send their aircrafts? It's not like the west is willing to sell turkey replacements . The only reason Russia was the chosen seller.
Why does Europe expect everything from Turkey? You can help Ukraine more. Yet you choose to deceive them with empty words. Classical European hypocrisy
I told my Friends it would happen anyway. In reality Turkey has started getting Superpower Dreams. Which has some truth in the way it's Political Maneuvering is being done. It would try to go a different way from what others want it to go towards.
Few holes in their plans. Runaway inflation, collapsed currency value and deprecating their central bank has left them with a heated economy ripe for a crash or widespread protests
" playing both sides", define wtf that means? Is fighting Russia and it's mercenaries in Syria and Libya " both sides"? , Is having some economic ties( checks notes), just like THE ENTIRE REST OF EUROPE who was dependent entirely on Russia for gas , playing both sides??
Man, this is bad for Putin. This is not Turkey suddenly felt so bad for the Ukrainians. This is Turkey realized that Russia is going to lose soon, and they are better off in the winning side. This happened with many nations that supported the Axis during WW2, for instance.
Except Turkey has fought Russia in Syria and Libya, whilst trolls like you think " they suddenly switched sides" because of your one dimensional worldview.
The benefit is you can use Turkey as a kind of canary-in-the-coal-mine for tin pot dictators. If even the Turks can see that Putin is finished you can be certain it is too obvious to be credibly ignored. That can be useful insight.
No one ditched no one. We are still frienemies with Russia. The bank card thing is because of US pressure. Russia didnt get mad at us, but to US because of that. Also we have been againist the invasion since the start of the war. We always said that Crimea is Ukranian.
It makes more sense when you realize it is like a parasite and their host. Turkey latches onto whatever gives it benefit at the moment and then abandons it as soon as it has used up the value.
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Hahaha, "realistic foreign policy" for parasites maybe. No civilized country runs their foreign policy that way. Turkey has no friends and nobody trusts them.
@@concernedhomosapien9807 Ok then 80%. Mind you, nearly everybody who has sat astride the Bosphorous for the last 3000 years has traded on their tight grip upon the scrotum of eastern Europe that is the Black Sea and twisted it as required to generate funds. Despite being woefully misinformed, according to you, I can recite that entire succession of imperial regiems off the top of my head, and provide a brief summary of their policies from the days of Persian hegemony till now. Erdogan follows the pattern flawlessly, from the self serving and self destructive hubris of Xerxes and Alexander, to the wars of the Diodoci, Rome, Byzantium, and the Calphate, to Ataturk and now this man. I await with great anticipation your educating me further regarding exactly how Erdogan differs in that policy that is as durable as it is ancient.
@@concernedhomosapien9807 Can't say I have much confidence about your credibility. You accuse somebody of being misinformed, but you can't even spell your name correctly. sapiens is a singular form, not plural. Homo sapien is not a thing, it's always with an s as in sapiens.
@@spugelo359 what does that have to do with your misinformed observation of erdogan's alignments are 100% money? Are you judging a spelling bee or something? Congratulations your honor!
@@concernedhomosapien9807 That isn't matter of just 'misspelling' but also being misinformed. If you can't even bother to take 1 extra second to spell your name it tells a lot how much effort you would put into anything else... not much.
Were they ever friends? Turkey fancies itself as a major regional power and would naturally try to tread the tightrope of allegiances to get the best perceived outcomes.
Russia and Turkey had a "freindship agreement" that virtually everyone knew was temporary, and that one would backstab the other eventually
Dictatorships are never really friends. They are just temporally allies. WW2 already proved this. When nazies and soviets were allied for short period of time.
@@johnroach9026 don't you mean china? turkey just needs money because erdogan messed up the economy. they don't help russia for ideological reasons but for money. and erdogan is also flexing (ie controlling bosphorus). china is also ducking russia over behind the curtains whenever they can. russia doesn't have friends. i don't expect countries not to jump on opportunities.
The same way Putin and Xi Xinping are "friends". They're only "friends" whenever it suits them, but they're always pointing a gun at each other behind their backs. Dictators don't have friends.
The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend. The Christ Angel version.
The enemy of The Christ Angel is the debt of the Russian Economy, The Chinese Economy, The American Economy, The European Economy. It is also their enemy. So that means we are all friends.
Turkey never recognised crimea annexation and declared this war illegal since the beginning
Facts 💯
*officially
Notwithstanding, all the Russian superyachts have safe haven in Turkey. I wonder why.
@@csjrogerson2377 Because no one wants war
Yeye, you turks are heading till the same autoritarian goverment as russia.
I'm not surprised, Russia has set an interesting precedent by performing and recognizing a unilateral referendum. I don't think Turkey would be thrilled if its Kurdish population decided to do the same.
I mean, Unilateral without unbiased oversight and going door-to-door with ballots with footage showing armed troops following nicely dressed people with ballot boxes. A referendum is not something you hold during a war over contested land.
Also interesting, because this too puts Serbia/🇷🇸 in a pickle as they surely prefer Kosovo/🇽🇰 not being able to claim if they voted (again on independence) it would be legit. Their asshead president/semi-dictator even said as much.
Yeah what Putin did is a direct threat to turkey at this point it’s more about self preservation than anything
I think this is the real reason.
Exactly. They realise that if they be OK with Russia doing it, then it will set precedent for it to happen within Turkey.
Turkey may be looking for a bailout of their economy at some point soon. The money won't come from Russia, so it is reasonable to think there are conversations going on and strings are being attached to the money. Self interest. But Turkey's economy is their burning fire right now.
I can’t imagine anyone wanting to help the neo-Ottoman dictator. Turkey won’t get any help until Erdogan is gone and either dead or behind bars.
@@peterfireflylund
A British colonialism justifier talking bad about Ottomans, hypocritical.
@@ij4674 the irony lool
@@ij4674 he isn't talking bad about Ottomans he is calling Erdogan a neo-ottoman wich is rhetorically correct.
+ the West won't help an economy dictated by a single man , that part is also correct. Nobody in their right mind would do it.
@@OljeiKhan
The west won't help anyone who don't follow their "dictations" whether it is one man or a bunch.
He was implying "ottoman" in a negative stance.
"We lost nothing."
"Also, I declare mobilisation."
-Vladolf Pootler
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”
― Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs
*Vlad the Im-Putler
Vladmir I
@@neutralboi1984 Send Ukrainians everything they need to reclaim BEFORE 2014 borders. Slava Ukraine ! with Love From Sweden
Putin: "A True Friend would help a bro in peril!"
Erdo: "A true friend, yes."
Neither are friends to each other.
Russia and Turkey are historic enemies and nowadays still have serious opposing geopolitical interests. Putin and Erdogan are realists that dont let the beef they have get personal. They have a lot of opposing interests but don't let that ruin the common interests.
@@memezmemez5176 Turkey and Russias ideals are not that different. Its just that Russia is the one actually capitalizing on those wants at moment! That really p*sses of erdogan.
Funny that erdogan being some friend of Putin is all in your head and with no basis in reality.
Friends don't let friends drink and invade.
Turkey has and was helping Putin a lot but it looks like Putin and Russia are a lost cause now.
It is like having a really good friend who starts taking drugs or becomes an alcoholic, starts acting anti-social, starts attacking family members, loses touch with reality and at some point you just have to say "Sorry man, we can't be friends anymore".
Putin and Erdogan were playing the same geopolitical game of trying to win influence in many countries (often on opposite sides) but Putin made a lot of mistakes in Ukraine. You think Turkey, India and China does not see all the failings in Ukraine(Bucha, corruption, military blunders, civilian deaths, crazy rhetoric, threats of nuclear war, blowing up of pipelines etc)?
They can tolerate it to an extent but at some point, they are just going to say sorry bro "you are batshit crazy" you need help, I can't associate with you anymore.
That is how I see it anyway.
When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Erdogan issued statement saying Russia wouldn’t dare to invade Ukraine had Western countries showed a proper response to annexation of Crimea in 2014.
I'm not certain that that's true, however I am inclined to agree even if it pains me to agree with someone like Erdogan. I also was highly disappointed by the lackluster and later on casual treatment of the EU towards Russia, mostly due to economic factors. Pretty disgusting, in the same way as trade with China today is disgusting - it seems we haven't learned our lesson.
Thats just common sense, and we all know germany was the one refusing tougher sanctions.
So erdogan aint special for pointing out what a layman knew
I have to agree with Erdogan on that, if the west showed a much tougher response on Crimea years ago, Putin likely wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, he did so because he thought the west was weak and divided, the west was and still is divided for the most part but Putin didn't understand the scale of what he's done that's united the west for the most part.
There is also the EU aspect in all this, if the EU had its own voice on the military and forign policy, the EU members pool their resources in those areas, I doubt Putin would have invaded Ukraine, it's our division on why he took advantage of Ukraine and the quicker the Europeans wake up and see that and start working a lot closer together, the better.
I said the same thing. Also, if Ukraine took the threat seriously when Russia was amassing their border and met them at the borders with NATO weapons the outcome would have been drastically different.
@@lVideoWatcherl I do, I think if NATO had genuinely slapped Russia as hard as they should have Russia wouldn't have even been in a situation to wage this war right now. Not to mention us just saying "NO you can't do that" and then doing absolutely nothing is totally why Putin had the utter audacity to invade Ukraine I bet money if we had taken a actual strong stance on Crimea Russia would not have even tried the rest of Ukraine. Putin attacked Ukraine on the pretext he wouldn't get much more blow back than he did with Crimea.
Even India is tired of Russia too, not just Turkey. Modi had urged Putin to stop the war, and Putin responded by waging more wars, its puppet foreign minister Lavrov ditched the Indian delegations and instead talked only to Wang Yi. Like Turkey, India will not leave Russian sphere easily, but India is no longer happy with Moscow anymore.
That has always been our position. Since the day the war began. Read any of the statements made by Indian officials since the war began. Only uneducated western journalist and the sheep that follow them believe that India changed opinion recently
India is a beggar nation for life!… What’s right or wrong doesn’t matter to India!
Talk is cheap and Indians love to talk.
I haven't found nothing explicit by India positions about the "referendums" and the "result of that"!
@@miguelcoutinho16 The things he mentioned happened before Russia's sham elections.
India wasn't expecting such a move from Russia and is confused how to walk on tightrope since India's economy will suffer if there isn't cheap oil source, not to mention our weapons are majorly Russian.
A fun fact: the word "Мир" (World) carries 2 meanings: *World* and *Peace* . The latter can hardly be associated with current russia
Ok
Glad you mentioned this. I was wondering if anyone else would comment on the irony...
"Миру - мир! Peace to World!"
What they mean is “the world will be peaceful when it’s all Russian”. World only refers to “Russian world lebensraum”
I know that from Zelemir off of the Indy game Defender’s Quest, who’s name can either mean desire for peace or desire for the world
India isn't neutral. At the beginning India was one of just a few countries who refused to condemn Putin's killing of civilians. Recently India refused to condemn the annexation of the 4 Ukrainian regions. India has now increased its purchase of Russian oil to over 2500% while Indian news media eagerly report every slight Russian gains while keeping reports of setbacks to a minimum.
It is pro-Russia but anti-China, and it's largest export market is the US and the largest import market is China, it's basically in a sempiternal balancing position
India is for all intents and purposes in the pocket of Russia. The state media is government biased as well
So who india supports?
@@kkkkk6977 read it again but louder
Yeah India is pretty clearly in the Russian camp. They may come to regret that choice.
the nato map is slightly outdated by only 3 decades
Country borders from 2012+, Nato members from 1990-1997
Erdogan does not see any countries or leaders as friends. He has a deep distrust to every country, including his Nato allies, and co-operates with the ones that benefit him most. He is only interested in preserving and solidifying his own power. This is why he makes seemingly fast movements in foreign policy, to benefit from the current situation. The unpredictability is important in showing his potential voters that under his leadership, Türkiye is a powerful power in the region that everyone needs to take into account.
For example, Erdogan is by no means a very religious person, but he is flirting with islamists, just because they support him in elections.
how do you find a fake politician a good one?
Being a dictator that got to where you were by arrests, executions and such like that will do that to you, he only sees tools to be used.
@Chemya The difference is that with us here in the west, we do actually share certain values and goals. Dictatorships can theoretically manage similar relations but their fragile longterm nature tends to prevent lasting alliances.
You explained it very well, congratulations. In the first 10 years of erdogan and akp, there was a democratization process unprecedented in Turkish history. close relations with the west. such as language and broadcasting rights for the Kurds. but then he chose to be an autocrat.
@@Arcaryon Recently, a dictatorship has begun to spread in the west. it was caused by the social democrats. dictatorship and its consequences will determine the next 10 years.
Turkey: "We're going to stay neutral in all of this."
Also Turkey: "Dude, you gotta stop this and give them back Crimea, we're not taking your credit cards anymore."
Putin: "See, the West is trying to encircle and destroy us!"
Turkey again: "Bruh I've been playing the West against itself since before you were Prime Minister, I'm not taking their side you've just screwed yourself so much even I can't take your side. This is as good as neutral gets for you now."
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In a nutshell, yes indeed. ;)
"Mir" doesn't only mean "world" in Russian. It also means "peace".
Mir mir.
Да спасибо я знаю
This is just realpolitik.
But it is interesting that folks that played the middle are either bolting for the West or are getting increasingly uncomfortable. Russia's miserable performance in a war where they had overwhelming advantages AND now that the Ukrainians are retaking territory says a lot about Putin's fall from grace as a strongman.
President Xi must be both irritated at Czar 'Bloop' Putin and their friendship without limits (that clearly has limits) and the resolve of the West, who Xi pegged as weak and feckless.
The front against Putin is clearly also a thinly veiled threat to Poohbear: look what we can do to you…
In a sense everyone (even outright allies of Putin) are suffering from this war. More than anything I think both China and India wanted this thing to simply be over but Putin wants to keep escalating things further. This war isn't making anyone happy.
China will be fighting west regardless whether russia is friend or not tho
Are you saying Xi will be okay without being with putin
Yeah I think countries like China, Turkey and India thought Russia was a very strong country and Putin a smart man doing what was in the best interest of his country but it looks Russia is more of a liability than an asset at this stage. He basically makes The West look good in comparison.
Not so sure. Putin just drafted something like 90% of the adult male Krim tartars and Erdoğan has always cared about the Krim Tartars.
I'm not very keen on Erdogan. But nonetheless I found the roll he was playing, out of self-interest or not, was a usefull one.
Regardless how this goes, at some point we will need a mediator that can be perceived as neutral.
Putin has made any mediation pointless unless and until he reverses his "annexation" of Ukrainian territory.
Self interest in this case was Turkey's interest more than personal interest. A bit disingenuous to talk just about his own self interest and not Turkey as a whole.
Yea, but I'd rather not have it be a religious wanna be dictator. I know that western standards aren't everything, but we should really not throw human rights to the waysides, whenever it gets in the way of any kind of politics. (looking at Chinese concentration camps and Saudi-Arabias... everything really)
@@Otek_Nr.3 I'm not talking about Democrats, they're center-right. Many in the American left agree with that sentiment. Yet we don't hold the requisite power to affect change
I don’t see why we would need a neutral mediator. Russia wouldn’t leave Ukraine no matter how sweet the words the “neutral” Erdogan whispers in Putin’s ear. Military force is what is currently kicking the Russians out. We also don’t need a “neutral” mediator afterwards. Russia either accepts the Western terms or continues to suffer our sanctions and the odd mysterious pipeline explosion in Siberia.
Turkey was never Russia's friend.
Erdogan is a dictator - in waiting ...
Russia was never Turkey's friend and none of the Western countries ever were.
Turkiye was the first to demand returning Crimea to Ukraine since 2014 and was the first to help Ukraine militarily, not only now. It was the first NATO member to take that position, before the U.S., before Britain, before France, and certainly before Germany
Then why the turnaround till now?
@@APBpa Because nukes, and other factors
@@beta3522 hmmm 🤨. I guess. At least he's speaking against it now
@@beta3522 Nukes isn't valid. They have been more aggressively threatening to use Nukes recently, why turn around AFTER that? Clearly nukes weren't the reason, Turkey is in Nato too and therefore if a single nuke flies towards Turkey, countless will fly towards Russia.
Crimea is important to turkey, because there are crimean tatars who are turkic
«МИР» also translates as ''PEACE". A bucket of irony.
A small addition: Erdogan’s claim of “Crimea must be returned to Ukraine” dates back as 2014 where the invasion happened. The reason of this is the mind of Crimea belonging to Crimean Tatar(which is based on Tatar Turks). You can search for the article “Turkey's Crimea Connection: Why Turkey Cares What Happens In Ukraine” in International Business Times
Crimea is Greek tataromalaka
@@chriskiustenoglou1663 Are you a Grecomalaka?
@@RealCherry8085 It's weird for a girl to comment like that. The polluted air of your country and your vegetarian diet must have damaged your brain.
I don't know, this just seems like Turkey acting as it always has. They've never really been a friend to russia in this conflict. Closing off the straight to warships for example.
@Uranium 235 bro 😂 wtf
@Uranium 235 NGL I'm gonna steal that one.
I believe it would be theoretically unsound to speak of friendship amongst modern nations as it would entail some sort of altruism, nations are motivated by percieved interests, and it's in Turkey's interest that former Soviet countries such as Ukraine remain a buffer between Turkey and Russia
This is essentially the same as the famous quote from Henry Kissinger: "Countries do not have friends. They have interests."
@@jamesw1659 you are right, a realist axiom that is as true today as when Henry Kissinger said it and Henry John Temple before him and since time immemorial
Fair enough, but it's getting harder to stay on the fence and say they're only doing this for self interest. China would like to maintain good relations with Russia because of their wide border and a large economy to export to. But with the struggle Russia has had taking Ukraine and angering the West, another large buyer, China has pulled back on it's support while trying to remain positive. It benefits China to be on Russia's good side, but this war doesn't do anything for authoritarian governments, retaking Taiwan, easing global food issues, and it will be years before they can even buy cheaper natural gas and oil, and much of what has been cut off from sanctions can't be provided by China.
Not necessarily Turkey will also like buffer countries to be under Turkish influence defended with Turkish made military equipment(such as drones, tanks, MRAPS, IFV etc) , Azerbaijan, Syria, Libya, Kazakstan etc
I just don't think this is true, countries can have true friends (e.g. UK Australia New Zealand Canada) and the alliance is stronger because of it.
What do you mean friends? They literally fought proxy wars
this guy its little off. turkey is fighting russians in syria libya and azerbejian. Like ok lol
You can only walk the fence for just so long, trying to play both sides. Sooner or later you must choose a side.
Turkiye never endorsed to war putin started.
''give crimea to its rightful owners'' says erdoğan, we all know he is talking about Turkey and not ukraine or russia
So putin can say same back to turkey give what you took from cyprus
What are you talking about? Turkey doesn't want Crimea and know it belongs to Ukraine.
@@jakel8627 I believe, it’s what they call a joke
@@pooroldnostradamus on which context ,when turkey was still the ottoman empire?
@@pooroldnostradamus
I don't get it...
Lol, just like in ww2, Turkey stays neutral, waits till the end, see who's winning then screws the loser.
Lol yeah, has worked so far
The Late Erdogan, they called me..
@@OneRichMofo The problem with that strategy is that you hardly gain anything by doing that. In theory Turkey had far more to gain if for some reason they decided to join Axis, but also far higher risk. That could have screwed over Russia. If USA also joined late to the party like usual, then the winner could have been completely different. Even joining allies earlier into the war would have gained them more benefits for sure.
Except it was against Russia in Libya and Syria whilst Europe was sitting on their arses .
@@hmmm3210 People bitch when 'the west' takes part in a conflict and people also bitch if 'the west' doesn't. Bloody hell there's just no winning.
Nice content, but error in 7:37: That is an old NATO map. You got it right in 5:07.
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Misleading title and thumbnail. Except for 2 or 3 countries that we call brother, we don't see anyone as friends anyway. You can replace putin's photo with the photo of any nato member country's leader with peace in mind. Same s.
Turkey is also going to polls next year and his party could lose
Their votes are rigged. it's an authoritarianism system
Every year since erdogan's party has been in power they've only gone lower on the democracy index
I guess it depends how well his economic policies hold up.
But considering they are all the opposite of modern economic theory, he probably will need a miracle.
@@randomaccount53793 seems like this might be an attempt to gain some good will
Erdogan is not losing in turkey lol. You know jackshit about turkey.
Never turn your back on a fair-weather friend, it often ends badly. 🤣
I'm dazzled by your motion graphics editor's effort. Great work!
Considering Turkey sits at a key geographical region being the link between the Black and Mediterranean Seas, this shift away from Putin could severely hamper Putin's naval forces in the Black Sea.
God bless Ukraine, we in Turkey have finally found our soul belong to. 🇹🇷🤝🏻🇺🇦
The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend. The Christ Angel version.
The enemy of The Christ Angel is the debt of the Russian Economy, The Chinese Economy, The American Economy, and The European Economy. The debt is also their enemy. So that means we are all friends.
I can hardly believe Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan have suspended Mir. Good on them 🇰🇿 🇰🇬 🇺🇿
How do you write those letters in small-caps (KZ KG UZ)?
@@TheRealFFS They are probably flag emojies that don't show up on our browsers. You'd probably see them if you were using a phone or something.
@@FenolftaleinRE You are right, that's it.
It was driving me crazy cause I couldn't find anything on Google yet everybody knew how to do it.
Thanks.
Video should be titled as “Erdogan ditches his friend Putin” instead. It’s Erdogan and his government’s decision to look ‘neutral’ due to growing fear that they won’t be able to win the next elections. Economy that they deliberately weakened prior to the pandemic now cannot survive without Russian gas or Russian tourists. On the other hand, the country ‘Turkey’ has been a NATO member for the past 70 years because of Russian menace. Many of us have lost our ancestral homes, our families, great-grandparents to the murderer Russia. Our Empire that lasted for centuries fell apart mainly due to decades long wars with Russia. I’d like to emphasise once again. Nobody suffered more than Turks in the hands of Russians historically. Russians and their centuries long ambition to reach warm waters of Mediterranean cost millions of Turkish lives. I salute brave Ukrainians who fiercely fight to defend their land. 🇺🇦
You know you've done well when you've made a 9 minute video which feels like it passed in half the time.
So its like this
Russia: hey im winning
Turkey: got your back bro
Russia: (start losing)
Turkey: im done playing with you.
The west will remember the questionable so called allied, so the long time game may be dangerous.
Typical Turks...
Has Russia started losing? I doubt that totally!
@@5rings16 Lyman says otherwise
@@smartguy360 Lyman is not even consequential! Is it even true! I trust Russia!
Turkey leader is putting his country first which I’m convinced is not a bad thing for the future of his nation and citizens
False. Turkey leader puts himself first. Ask the thousands he has jailed in his country, and his denial of the Armenian genocide in Turkey.
The map at 7:35 is inaccurate.
Ukraine kicking Russia out of all its territories would turn the Black Sea into a Turkish lake. Erdogan appears to be a student of Alfred Thayer Mahan's theory of maritime control. He is very aware that Sweden and Finland joining NATO puts a stranglehold on Russia in the Baltic, giving Turkish control of the Black Sea much more strategic influence. Russia should start to worry more about its other "ally," China, who may start to see wresting control of Vladivostok from Russia as a relatively easy way to increase its influence in the Pacific.
Precisely why Russia will win!
@@5rings16 Since they've been doing so great lately 🤣
@@patkelley4071 You mean annexing everything!
Honestly Putin would probably use nukes if China tried to take Vladivostok LOL. The Russian Pacific Fleet is based there.
What was the Peru prime minister in the blooper reel?
why is the nato map wrong?
The rhyming at the start with "Since the war in Ukraine began, Turkey's president... Erdogan", had me really hoping you were delivering this one Dr Suess style...
Off topic, but didnt Turkey change its name to Turkiye? Why is no one calling it that, news outlets, Wikipedia, google itself. Did I miss something, I would love someone to clear this up.
As a turk i feel like that was a publicity stunt so I will continue to say turkey instead
İt was erdogan fuss..No one really take it as serious including us turks
@@Polo-rn8ly no I do use Turkiye since un accepted it. Calling Türkiye turkey in English language is a retarded name was a mistake
They can call themselves whatever they want. In English their name is "Turkey".
Great video as always, and I'm the TH-camr who recognized you out in Brixton last night (01/10/2022). Keep up the great work and stay blessed!
1:32 one nation two countries is how turks azeris describe turkey and azerbaijan.
Why is the outro segment so loud?
Again; as a Kurd who hates Erdoğan with a burning passion -- He did not force Swe/Fin to take a "hawkish stance on the Kurds".
He forced them to take a hawkish stance against PKK.
PKK does not equal "Kurds"
That's like saying Aum Shinrikyo equals Japanese people.
I hope they arrest and prosecute all the Erdogan supporters in Sweden and Finland as soon as they have joined NATO.
"That's like saying Aum Shinrikyo equals Japanese people."
it isn't, because you'll find way, way less Japanese supporting Aleph as you will Kurds supporting the PKK. I'm not suggesting all, or even a majority of Kurds support the PKK, but to compare their support levels to Aleph is obviously exaggerated
@@seadkolasinac7220 PKK is a terrorist organisation. You can't make right what's wrong with a popularity contest.
@@seadkolasinac7220 Majority of Kurds doesn't support pkk.. Get lost here arab
Turkey and Russia have never been friends in fact they are historic enemies. Turkey's position was entirely pragmatic due to their economic issues and reliance on Russia. But now its time to choose sides and choosing Russia would be suicidal.
I mean didn't Putin himself said "There's no friends in politics"?
I don't know why but I got distracted; I'm watching you talking instead of the news!
Tbh, only group that had power to attempt that coup were the kemalists in the army and the Gülen sect. Gülen and Erdoğan already sacked the Kemalists 15 years ago so only one that can do that coup is Gülen.
To everyone else it might sound over the top, but any Turk who lived 2010s would tell how much influence Gülen group had on everywhere since 90's. To education, justice, police and army to media and politics. They were everywhere and nobody could go against them.
an interesting breakdown, thanks. But it leaves me with the question -- why did Gulen attempt the coup? What was he expecting the result to be?
@@seadkolasinac7220 Remove the Erdogan and regain control of course. After the Kemalists were dealt with only ones that can be a threat to them was the other party.
These two behemoths of influence tried to remove each other and apparently Erdogan was winning since until the coup Gülen sect's (or "Cemaat" as we called them, Now Fetö) influence dropped considerably except the army.
@@seadkolasinac7220 gulenist People also tried military coup in uzbekistan back in 1999 but they falied there as well.. İt is not only turkey. If you have gulenist schools in your country bad news for you
I always thought it was the Kemalists. Them being significantly weakened by the AKP and Gulen was why the coup wasn’t particularly strong, and fell apart. Ultimately IDK though.
@@coldwar45 Kemalists aren't organized around a certain leader unlike fetö. Not to forget gülen sect's influence were weakened too.
7:36 what prehistoric map of nato is that?
It's all about the sham referendum. Follow Russias lead and any country can hold a referendum just by saying so. Send a few troops into a country, hold 5% of it, hold a referendum with amazing 99% positive results and you can say what you like. Greece would love it!
What do you mean by Greece would love it? Greece by itself would get demolished in any war with Turkey.
Le seul problème est que le résultat du referendum reflète exactement celui des élections de 2014 après Maïdan.
Il reflète exactement la partition de l'Ukraine : la moitié est pro-russe tandis que l'autre (l'ouest) les terrorise depuis 8 ans (arrestations arbitraires, viols, meurtres et autres exactions).
Contester ce résultat, c'est cracher à la figure de la démocratie que vous prétendez défendre en soutenant un gouvernement criminel.
@@OljeiKhan coz they could hold a sham refendum themselves over disputed territory. My point is Russia can't be allowed to get away with what they have done. We have to face the threats. If not any country can go around holding completely and obviously daft referendums.
@@OljeiKhan Greece always beats Turkey!
Bro Istanbul alone has more economic power than Greece, even if the turkish economy is going downhill at the moment
Terrific recap. Turkey and India have increased their leverage appreciably in the last 12 months. Erdogan is uniquely qualified to assess when an oligarchy is teetering.
The banks were private. The state owned banks in Turkey still accept the Russian card. So if the move was "presumably under direction from Erdogan", it would have been the state banks not private ones.
In erdogan's Turkey there is no such thing as a private bank regardless of the fact that it is still a private bank... As a foreigner try and get anything done and not have to go through the rules and regulations as well as the laws that apply out of Ankara. This is true also of their communication systems Yes sure you have private cell phone companies but they all have to go through a central government owned and controlled system. I believe this is his attempt to put pressure on Russia while at the same time keeping his capability of buying cheap energy through the state owned banks. This is always transactional with him, think of Trump only Turkish
@@marcm. I think Turkiye is simply asserting its independence by not following the usual convention.
Putin doesn't even know what MIR is and has probably never even used it. MIR sanctions can't be used to pressure Putin who may see it as a blessing in disguise. If all those military aged people evading his draft can only access their cash in Russia and nowhere else why would they leave.
Private bank still regulated by central bank, and thats kind of move must be directed by central bank aka government.
İş Bankası isn't private
@@onurrsentrk neither private nor statr owned
what date was this video issued on you tube?
I used to watched ur channel when it was only audio ..I think that was a better format ...also have u considered seeking help to fix your posture..you are young ..I think it's fixable
Your jingle is too loud.
Ironically, МИР means not only world, by also peace
So if Russian worked like English "мир мир" would be a valid translation for "world peace". 😂
@@whohan779 Russian doublespeak
@@whohan779 I wouldn't since slavic languages use cases for adjectives. correct version would be rather 'мирный мир'
Tbf, there are no friends in international politics, just alliances of convenience.
I love how governments suspend foreign trade and people aren’t concerned about the corollary of a central digital currency
Gotta love the image of Putin’s arm getting ripped off there.
Don't forget without Turkey's TB2s this war wouldn't go in Ukraine's favour. There is no change of position
did Ukraine pay for them or was it a gift/support from Turkey?
@@fixpontt they brought em (at low amount) after 2014 invasion of crimea, the newer crafts are donations from the company after the fundraising when the company say to use the funds for humanitarian purpose and donate at least 1 drone as a 1:1
@@fixpontt ukraine did pay for the bayraktars but at a lower price excluding pre war ones. They did pay Bayraktars normal price.
Lol they had them buy them off, waw be proud of that lol
@@fixpontt mostly paid but some were gifts. Turkey refused to give tb2s to Russia though.think about that
Excellent report, thank you. Strategically, Turkey has a lot to gain from Russian losses and decline.
Not so excellent If you look map on 7:37😆
nice sponsor segment. adding humor is a great way to do it
Despite what everyone may think, Turkey has tried to play the part of a Neutral. I don't for one minute support Putin but NATO and America have not helped either. Going back through NATO agreements, they agreed not to continue to encroach on Russias borders and America also agreed. Take a look at any map of countries now in NATO and you can see they broke all the agreements. That does not give Russia the right to go to war but would cause total mistrust between Russia and the West. Turkey has tried to get the parties together to talk rather than go down the road to WW111. They arranged the release of 600 personnel from Russian forces, while the West did nothing except ramp up the war effort. Both parties need to TALK. Putin has backed himself into a corner, with no real way of ending the conflict, except Nuclear. Thats not a wise position for anybody. We dont want WW111. nobody wins anything.
With friends like this... No need for enemies.
A bit weird how the 7:37 nato pic lacks any of the eastern mambers.
Turkey is an important and valuable ally 🇬🇧🇹🇷
must play nicer, though...
I think you have a Very wrong Perception of Turkey.
@derzzsh important? yes. valuable? yes. not so sure about strong though...
Yeap most valuable in the region, with the best army.
No they’re not, how delusional are you?
That's the funniest thumbnail I've seen all year 😂
A few moments later: Russo-Turkish War of 2022
Which automatically triggers a wider Russia-NATO war.
@@huaiwei ooor maybe not. Maybe only France will side with Turkey, while Britain will side with Russia.
As a Turkish I can say that Turkey was always against Russia in Ukraine war and always supported Ukraine, also recognised Crimea as a part of Ukraine since the beginning. Because it is some kind of red line for Us. Crimea does not belong to Russia. Also Turkey never wants Russia increase its borders, it is a threat for future. Turkey may have had good relations with Russia but they both had to. Actually it was not good relations, it was good communications which both countries preferred. Communication does not mean being allies. I hope that Ukraine will get Crimea and other lands back.
This video is very informational and interesting. It's like listening to a spy story with double, triple agents playing cloak and dagger operation. The story never ends and the saga of course will continue till next time :)
Imagine fucking living in it
Look map 7:37 - not very proffesional! 😄
why isn't this on tldr europe
Erdogan is that kind of person you feel you can never trust, and so prefer to make sure he always walks in front of you. If he claims to be your friend, you just make sure to be even more watchful.
Putin is so trustable lol or any other Western politicans
Thats just how politics work
Even he doesn't know what he does
Erdogan is a man who keeps his word, if he promises to be friends with you, know that he will keep his word.
All politicians are liars, not just Erdogan, but Erdogan takes it to a different level. I like only one feature of Erdogan: the man speaks the lie like his mother tongue :D
The hosts of TLDR don't live in a place with an independent foreign policy so they assume in Turkey we do the same as them.. Turkey can play both sides and surprisingly for TLDR, it does.
Turkey was never supporting Russia, it's obvious which side Turkey wanted to win. Ukraine, Turkey literally gave them a ton of weapons and Bayraktar's but you can't expect Turkey to oppose Russia fully and clearly obviously because of strategic and political reasons. Come on now.
Turkey is in a unique position because they control the Bosphorus Strait and the Dardanelles (Strait of Gallipoli). Naval and Merchant Shipping is impossible without Turkey's permission to pass these ocean chokepoints. This is why Erdogan can upset other countries and nobody will react punitively.
We are neither friend nor enemy of Russia.Turkiye doesnt have a luxury to choose west or east since Location of Turkiye in the world map is unique.Also Turkiye is an independent country.Thats why Someone who sided with Turkey will never lost.Also Turkiye supports union of Ukraine as a Nato ally.Usa did so many things to stop and divide Turkiye too.Coups,terrorist attacks,sanctions,ambargoes but still Turkiye is alive.Something that didnt kill you makes you stronger.Thanks Usa and some Nato +Eu countries 🙂
Cancellation on Mir network could be a way to “affect” Russian’s leaving to avoid the mobilization.
It could actually be good for Russian government. No?
So Turkey, how about send those S-400s you bought to Ukraine…
*s400
Maybe wealthier countries who love shitting on Turkey should send their aircrafts? It's not like the west is willing to sell turkey replacements . The only reason Russia was the chosen seller.
If Americans give Patriots, we will.
Why does Europe expect everything from Turkey? You can help Ukraine more. Yet you choose to deceive them with empty words. Classical European hypocrisy
Well, it’s like Robert Jordan said:
“Victory settles most things, in the minds of men.”🤷🏾♂️
I told my Friends it would happen anyway. In reality Turkey has started getting Superpower Dreams. Which has some truth in the way it's Political Maneuvering is being done. It would try to go a different way from what others want it to go towards.
@Zaydan Naufal 🐐
@@sparklemotion8377 🧢
Few holes in their plans. Runaway inflation, collapsed currency value and deprecating their central bank has left them with a heated economy ripe for a crash or widespread protests
Playing such stupid fame might land it in trouble
similar to india isnt it ?
sort your volume out mate. It's getting annoying
i think turkey got burn by playing both sides
its getting more difficult for him to play both sides so turkey can benefit from both sides
" playing both sides", define wtf that means? Is fighting Russia and it's mercenaries in Syria and Libya " both sides"? , Is having some economic ties( checks notes), just like THE ENTIRE REST OF EUROPE who was dependent entirely on Russia for gas , playing both sides??
@@hmmm3210 Remind me again which sanctions regimes Turkey is part of? Europe and the US have passed so many maybe I missed the one Turkey signed onto.
There were no friends but only temporary interests
Man, this is bad for Putin. This is not Turkey suddenly felt so bad for the Ukrainians. This is Turkey realized that Russia is going to lose soon, and they are better off in the winning side. This happened with many nations that supported the Axis during WW2, for instance.
Except Turkey has fought Russia in Syria and Libya, whilst trolls like you think " they suddenly switched sides" because of your one dimensional worldview.
@@hmmm3210 turkey has not been fighting russia anywhere, it has only been fighting sides that were/are being supported by russia
Erdogan wanted Crimea back to Ukraine since 2014 so no it's not true
The benefit is you can use Turkey as a kind of canary-in-the-coal-mine for tin pot dictators. If even the Turks can see that Putin is finished you can be certain it is too obvious to be credibly ignored. That can be useful insight.
Except that Turkey aids Ukraine since the start of the war (most famuosly with BAYRAKTARs), and welcoming Ukrainain refugees.
‘Sliding with coup plotters’ typo there buddy 😂😂😂
Turkey and Russia have historically been very close. Very close combat that is. Don't they have the record of most wars between 2 countries?
We are already fighting Russians in Libya,Syria and Armenia.
7:37 Which year is this NATO map? Why is Poland and Romania outside?
No one ditched no one. We are still frienemies with Russia. The bank card thing is because of US pressure. Russia didnt get mad at us, but to US because of that. Also we have been againist the invasion since the start of the war. We always said that Crimea is Ukranian.
yes, and that's why your country is the worse ally the west can have and should get kicked out of NATO, what a selfish country that is.
That's a spicy thumbnail!
Orso turkey has like over 1 millon crimean tatars
Wow , 40 % ads
0:11 that map is a LITTLE BIT outdated
Turkey is such a strange country and the relationship with the outside world is even stranger
When you keep telling yourself that you start believing it
It makes more sense when you realize it is like a parasite and their host. Turkey latches onto whatever gives it benefit at the moment and then abandons it as soon as it has used up the value.
@@CedarHunt That is called Realistic Foreign Policy. All states do it and Turkiye does it quite well.
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Hahaha, "realistic foreign policy" for parasites maybe. No civilized country runs their foreign policy that way. Turkey has no friends and nobody trusts them.
"Mir" also translates as "peace".
Follow the money. Erdogan's alignments are 100% transactional.
No they are not, you are very misinformed.
@@concernedhomosapien9807 Ok then 80%. Mind you, nearly everybody who has sat astride the Bosphorous for the last 3000 years has traded on their tight grip upon the scrotum of eastern Europe that is the Black Sea and twisted it as required to generate funds.
Despite being woefully misinformed, according to you, I can recite that entire succession of imperial regiems off the top of my head, and provide a brief summary of their policies from the days of Persian hegemony till now. Erdogan follows the pattern flawlessly, from the self serving and self destructive hubris of Xerxes and Alexander, to the wars of the Diodoci, Rome, Byzantium, and the Calphate, to Ataturk and now this man. I await with great anticipation your educating me further regarding exactly how Erdogan differs in that policy that is as durable as it is ancient.
@@concernedhomosapien9807 Can't say I have much confidence about your credibility. You accuse somebody of being misinformed, but you can't even spell your name correctly. sapiens is a singular form, not plural. Homo sapien is not a thing, it's always with an s as in sapiens.
@@spugelo359 what does that have to do with your misinformed observation of erdogan's alignments are 100% money? Are you judging a spelling bee or something? Congratulations your honor!
@@concernedhomosapien9807 That isn't matter of just 'misspelling' but also being misinformed. If you can't even bother to take 1 extra second to spell your name it tells a lot how much effort you would put into anything else... not much.