I've built my own controls for VR. It takes half an afternoon to change airplane configuration. At the moment, I have a Grob 115. Right hand seat. All hand manipulated knobs are in the correct position for me to reach out according to what I see in VR. It was handy having a BSc Mech Eng, and being a woodwork hobbyist. Trust me, as long as the controls are where they should be, immersion is maintained. The REAL trick is to put a small haptic shaker on the yoke. The shaker is driven by the second channel of the stereo amplifier driving the bass shaker on my chair. What the small shaker does on the yoke is eliminate sticky points in the yokes travel. The yoke's shaft literally 'floats' in the vibration.
I wanted to do that on my Honeycomb Alpha, but I was afraid that the intense and non-stop vibration would ruin the internals of the yoke. There is nothing in this world that is surviving vibrations.
I've been using virtual desktop with the quest3 and with the hands pass through and it's been a game changer for my simpit!!! No more feeling around or muscle memory for all my virpil controls!
I have tried MSFS 2024 with Virtual Desktop and it runs like total garbage. Im running a 4080 Super. Link cable works great. I dont understand how everyone gets 40fps in Virtual Desktop. Even the mouse moving across the screen is choppy in VD.
That was really cool 😲😀👍 Ps. The colors in the sim/ video were very vibrant ,bright is that using HDR or a quest 3 thing? ... Through ths lens footage was very clear almost more so than my pimax crystal!
@@sascenturion 🤣 I think the footage you might be referring to is from a real spitfire cockpit filmed with my phone. So technically, it's kind of through the lens afterall 😅😅
Great video as always! I have a Varjo Aero, do you know if virtual desktop or Sim Xr will work with my head set? You mention the FPS value in the middle of the screen is from SSW, is it built in Virtual desktop app or a separated app?
For a reason i do not understand , i do not have this « create portal desk « button at the down right corner of the input tab in virtual desktop 1.33.3 version . Maybe not available in Canada ?
Thanks for the video. I understand why you did things as you did, and I don't mean to sound churlish, but this overlay/ passthrough thing only becomes useful when the real controls overlay the position of the virtual controls exactly. I appreciate this would've been very tricky, but I really would have found it useful to see you try to get as close to it as you could... perhaps in another video?
As he said, he intentionally offset the virtual and real controls to show us how they match up. He also mentioned that the real controls can be placed where the virtual controls would be for increased immersion.
I have a turtle beach yoke system. I also have the joystick system. When I play with this joytick on FS2024 my flights are smooth and awesome. When I play with the Yoke system I bounce all over the place and can't keep the planes steady. Does anyone know why that is?? I haven't tried the Yoke on XBOX this is all PC. I have a i912900k 96GB mem DDR5 4800 with a 4080 OC. I can't figure it out for the life me.
The weird thing I have with virtual desktop and MSFS is Steam VR still fires up and it caused it for me to be looking at the dual screens shown on the desktop VS a "virtual" view, I hope that makes sence. Is there somethign I need to setup to go into VR mode while using Virtual desktop or is it supposed to be automatic?
In virtual desktop use VDXR instead of Steam VR. Then the default way to enter the 3D cockpit is with CTRL-TAB. I may be skipping something as I'm not at my pc right now
@@lesneilson67 Do I change that setting from the desktop side or while in the headset with the program running to have it use VDXR? Ive never really messed around with the program settings, just fire it up and run so sorry if I sound noobish, lol
Does this work with the link cable or only with Virtual Desktop? My link cable looks fantastic but Virtual Desktop is not the best for me for some reason.
Thanks for the reply. I tried SimXR before and pass through didn’t work for me using link cable. It did work with virtual desktop but I had performance issues so went back to link cable and can’t get simxr pass through to work. :(. any thoughts are appreciated.
@@PatJones82 Oh sorry Pat, yes your are right. It doesn't work with VD. I totally forgot. hmm. I'm not sure if there is another way to use Passthrough on link. Have you tried my VD VR settings? It does work so well with the Quest 3 now. Best wishes.
The biggest mistake i made was purchasing msfs 2024 haven't seen a lot of difference riddled with bugs no market place basic airports and aircraft no way of getting my 2020 paid for aircraft across mouse not always working in VR. Etc. Getting a refund until this mess is sorted out.
I never knew Virtual Desktop gave you free pass through windows...SO pleased to learn this! Thanks Steve!!
My pleasure mate 😊
I've built my own controls for VR.
It takes half an afternoon to change airplane configuration.
At the moment, I have a Grob 115. Right hand seat.
All hand manipulated knobs are in the correct position for me to reach out according to what I see in VR.
It was handy having a BSc Mech Eng, and being a woodwork hobbyist.
Trust me, as long as the controls are where they should be, immersion is maintained.
The REAL trick is to put a small haptic shaker on the yoke. The shaker is driven by the second channel of the stereo amplifier driving the bass shaker on my chair.
What the small shaker does on the yoke is eliminate sticky points in the yokes travel. The yoke's shaft literally 'floats' in the vibration.
I wanted to do that on my Honeycomb Alpha, but I was afraid that the intense and non-stop vibration would ruin the internals of the yoke. There is nothing in this world that is surviving vibrations.
I got one of these quadrants earlier in the year, it's fantastic
Nice!
Can’t wait until their P51 flight stick is ready!
Brilliant video! I love the idea of mixed reality. Thats whats keeping me away of buying the Pimax crystal light. Happy with the quest 3
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! 😊😊😊
You are so welcome!
I've been using virtual desktop with the quest3 and with the hands pass through and it's been a game changer for my simpit!!! No more feeling around or muscle memory for all my virpil controls!
Fantastic
I have tried MSFS 2024 with Virtual Desktop and it runs like total garbage. Im running a 4080 Super. Link cable works great. I dont understand how everyone gets 40fps in Virtual Desktop. Even the mouse moving across the screen is choppy in VD.
@TroyS3 you'll benefit tremendously from a dedicated 6E wifi router.
@@FujitsuPolycom Do you have to have it in the room with the computer?
@@FujitsuPolycom Because I have a 6E Wifi router, but it's not in the same room.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing buddy
Appreciate it 😊
Very cool
That was really cool 😲😀👍
Ps. The colors in the sim/ video were very vibrant ,bright is that using HDR or a quest 3 thing? ... Through ths lens footage was very clear almost more so than my pimax crystal!
Cheers mate. Although there's no through the lens footage on this video 😅
@VRFlightSimGuy 😂 ...err
I am60 😋
@@sascenturion 🤣 I think the footage you might be referring to is from a real spitfire cockpit filmed with my phone. So technically, it's kind of through the lens afterall 😅😅
@@VRFlightSimGuy phew ...thanks 😋
Nice video. I still find using Openkneeboard easier to use (once initially setup) for MR in a cockpit setup.
where have you been all my life? *puts headset on*
Great video as always! I have a Varjo Aero, do you know if virtual desktop or Sim Xr will work with my head set? You mention the FPS value in the middle of the screen is from SSW, is it built in Virtual desktop app or a separated app?
For a reason i do not understand , i do not have this « create portal desk « button at the down right corner of the input tab in virtual desktop 1.33.3 version . Maybe not available in Canada ?
I live in the US. Our version doesn't have the desktop portal for some reason or am I missing something. I have the latest version
This is brilliant, just snapped up one of these quadrants. What do you do for flaps? I saw that’s coming for this kit.
Nice one! I'm still trying to figure out that part :)
Thanks for the video. I understand why you did things as you did, and I don't mean to sound churlish, but this overlay/ passthrough thing only becomes useful when the real controls overlay the position of the virtual controls exactly. I appreciate this would've been very tricky, but I really would have found it useful to see you try to get as close to it as you could... perhaps in another video?
As he said, he intentionally offset the virtual and real controls to show us how they match up. He also mentioned that the real controls can be placed where the virtual controls would be for increased immersion.
Ditto to what Percy4979 said
@@johnnunez9295I’m struggling to see how your comment added anything of importance to this thread.
All very nice, but wouldn't it be simpler to be able to use hand tracking to operate the aircraft controls directly within the simulator?
Yes and no, since it would feel very odd trying to control an aircraft with no physical weight or feeling.
I have a turtle beach yoke system. I also have the joystick system. When I play with this joytick on FS2024 my flights are smooth and awesome. When I play with the Yoke system I bounce all over the place and can't keep the planes steady. Does anyone know why that is?? I haven't tried the Yoke on XBOX this is all PC. I have a i912900k 96GB mem DDR5 4800 with a 4080 OC. I can't figure it out for the life me.
Have you got updated settings for 4070 and q3 on here somewhere 😘
Settings guide on the channel 👍👍
got alink to the new virtual desktop app ?? i can only get 1.33.3 wher as yours says 1.33.3-71
The weird thing I have with virtual desktop and MSFS is Steam VR still fires up and it caused it for me to be looking at the dual screens shown on the desktop VS a "virtual" view, I hope that makes sence. Is there somethign I need to setup to go into VR mode while using Virtual desktop or is it supposed to be automatic?
In virtual desktop use VDXR instead of Steam VR. Then the default way to enter the 3D cockpit is with CTRL-TAB. I may be skipping something as I'm not at my pc right now
@@lesneilson67 Do I change that setting from the desktop side or while in the headset with the program running to have it use VDXR? Ive never really messed around with the program settings, just fire it up and run so sorry if I sound noobish, lol
How would you say a rx 6800 or 6800xt might perform with VR on this sim?
👍👍👍👍👍
Does this work with the link cable or only with Virtual Desktop? My link cable looks fantastic but Virtual Desktop is not the best for me for some reason.
If you are using a cable, use Sim XR shown at the beginning. Link in the notes below. Cheers!
Thanks for the reply. I tried SimXR before and pass through didn’t work for me using link cable. It did work with virtual desktop but I had performance issues so went back to link cable and can’t get simxr pass through to work. :(. any thoughts are appreciated.
@@PatJones82 Oh sorry Pat, yes your are right. It doesn't work with VD. I totally forgot. hmm. I'm not sure if there is another way to use Passthrough on link. Have you tried my VD VR settings? It does work so well with the Quest 3 now. Best wishes.
@@VRFlightSimGuy OK. thanks for confirming! I will reference your video and try Virtual Desktop again to see what happens! Thanks much!! :)
Are you having issues with no engine sounds with Flying Irons Spit in 2024
Known issue
I haven't tried it in 2024 yet
@@MrNeilRoberts with just this aircraft or others as I enjoy the spit
For me, VR is more or less 10 mins of play. Then, my eyes catch fire.
It’s a shame, because it’s an amazing experience.
You're doing something very wrong. I can use VR for hours and hours. Check your IPD!
@@VRFlightSimGuynope, it’s not an IPD issue. It’s fatigue. I’ve already tried both Meta VR and HP Reverb and the problem is the same.
since 2024 launch i have not been able to setup my controllers it is a shit fight of a setup
The biggest mistake i made was purchasing msfs 2024 haven't seen a lot of difference riddled with bugs no market place basic airports and aircraft no way of getting my 2020 paid for aircraft across mouse not always working in VR. Etc.
Getting a refund until this mess is sorted out.
😕