This video basically taught me how to drift. First i started with an old beat up E34 535i but now got myself an E39 M5, whipping it about every corner :)
Hello Mister Harris, I follow you from Belgium since a long time... You are just the best pilot journalist I ever saw. Sorry for my mistakes in English. If you come a day in Belgium, don't hesitate to contact me. I will show you the Molignee Valley where stars of rally like Patrick Snijers, Marc Duez,... had their best days. Best regards
Chris makes it look so easy. There are other things to take into consideration, which he does here without explaining, such as corner entrance speed, what line you need to take to allow enough room for the slide, and turning back into the corner during the slide to induce more slide if needed, which is what he's doing in between 6:27 and 6:30, and again more drastically at 6:41.
nah the 3.0d is way more than enough but the thing we are missing is the LSD(limited slip differential). Each time we try to drift without a LSD only one of the wheels will be spinning like mad thus losing power and losing the slide. if u have e60 u can try in a parking lot when its empty you'll see what I mean :D. e39 520d is a bit short on power :( Have fun and stay safe (:
toxik217 ahh gotcha, that's the 'lock' he keeps mentioning. Is the LSD only on the M3/5's or does the 'M' package include it as well, I'm assuming the former?? Thanks, you too :D
While oversteer is not the fastest way around a paved track, it's important to have car control so you can save yourself from crashing if you get on the throttle too soon. On a dirt track or rally course it allows the driver to steer the car since the front wheels aren't gripping very good.
there are many ways to initiate a drift. clutch kicking, using a handbrake, preloading the car. here the surface is wet and slick so it is easy to break traction with just turning in and throttling
I guess it's personal preference, I just find it easier to modulate when it's less sensitive and easier to counter when there is no added weight. For normal driving in the twisties or for a quick overtake sport is very good though.
Now once you got the three stages of the drift sorted out, the world is your oyster. You see, the possibilities are endless because you can induce a slide whenever you want to, you can control it, through steering and throttle, you can get away and come back into a straight line, whenever you want..
Yes sir. Just get a loose surface like some gravel or snow and have a ball. But be careful! A big ole diesel truck is likely to roll if put too sideways haha
@raze203 At the start of the second drift, Chris applied throttle aggressively in order to get the rear tires to break traction. The differential may have momentarily locked due to the tires spinning at different rates combined with the sudden application of power. That would have caused the bang you heard.
sometimes microphones or speakers pick up frequencies from the engine electronics, notice the pitch exactly follows the rpms. I can't explain how but I've seen this phenomenon elsewhere too, even in one of my cars.
No, read the title. This is for power oversteering. You can find videos on shift locking, clutch kicking, handbraking, and weight shifting around here.
There is no superchargers on an M5.. but I did notice that whine is present even on the normal E39.. my cousin has a 528i and it whines as well, thought it was the torque converter but this is a manual and it still whines!
@JSlShow Yeah that´s right.. if you talk about a rally driver, he´s awful.. but if talking about drifting and oversteering, Block has a great handling over his car in gymkhana
it does to a certain extent, although you still need to be fully aware of where the steering wheel is when you want to counter-steer. check this video /watch?v=5Tq2-yFU9_M from 4:30 you'll see he lets go of the wheel completely and it does spin on its own. It's possible to really forcefully steer into the turn then just let go and let the car start the counter-steer for you, but you will need to catch it on the way back or the car will just flick round in the other direction
@yukiotakata yeah he is immense! he does a lot for EVO magazine (in my opinion the best car mag in england) and i think he does some for Autocar aswell. i just got a 350z and i really want to try some power oversteer but finding a place where its safe to practise is not so easy.
With all the JDM-wannabe 'dori' BS here, why has this *classic petrolhead instructional* (IMO) only got ~100k views? Deserves far more - not sure where the 6 thumbs down came from either. The Monkey has truly exquisite skill, watching mastery at this level whilst he calmly explains the process... I'll keep learning but that's a rare and fine talent. Bravo.
@1697P Ofcourse this is very personal and can vary by different persons. Personally, I like it when i can just reach the top of the wheel with straight arms, that way my arms are slightly bend when I'm holding it 13:50
interfered? was it possibly a non-shielded aftermarket setup? or do you think about those flashy-fancy things that adjust the volume the more you rev, so you still can hear the radio, even whilst revving 5k+?
Problem is when I try to prepare my seat that i can put my hand on top of the steering wheel as it is shown, I'm very very close to the steering wheel. And I'm afraid of the airbag if it comes out at an accident. Maybe I have short arms... Do some of ypu have the same problem?
Its funny. I drift on Forza with a force feedback wheel and I've never drifted in real life. When I bought an E39 M5 (the car Chris Harris is driving) I drifted it and controlled it perfectly, getting out of the drift smoothly is the hard part though and thats what takes in car practice.
man do me a favour... if you can make a tutorial about drifting ,managing a car and pushing it to the limits with a haldex tractioned car like an audi tt (the first generation) i would be much pleased. in fact its difficult to drift it because not much torque goes to the rear wheels. thank you. inform me if you do !
they use the handbrake to put the car into a slide once the car is sliding you can keep it that way by accelerating. at low speeds is not necesary if your car is powerful...in the other hand...handbrake will make it slide at any speed with or without power. The handbrake slide came out of rally just to put the car into slide mode at the required speed. He doesn't use the handbrake because the car is probably not his...since handbrake slide is harsh on the car components.
I did this and threads of tire/string (tread?) started coming off my rear tire, I also drive an e46 bmw, a 2002 330i sport to be exact. problem is my dad is a mechanic and i don't want him to find out, this just happened yesterday, does anyone have any solutions on covering this or a good excuse? thanks.
My mum had a heap of shit that ford called a cortina back in the 70s. The original AM radio when not tuned to any specific station would play a very loud whine that perfectly matched the RPM instead of your usual static. Some freaky interference going on somewhere in that thing.
@yukiotakata He's writing for evo magazine (@evotv) and posts privately on youtube as @theharrismonkey . Also freelancing elsewhere; he has recently written for Jalopnik.
This guy makes it look soooooo simple!!!! Amazing driver.
Love this car!! And Chris Harris is a good teacher I have to admit. I love his car reviews!
Chris in his early days is like any TH-camrs when they just getting started. Legend
I'm watching this even though I own a front wheel drive car
I know that feel bro lol
Hero! xD
I’m watching this even though I’m not old enough to drive
you can still drift in a fwd,. just not as simple
I’m watching and I have a 320d Auto and a 1.3 diesel Corsa
So how many cars got ruined as a result of watching this video? Haha.
This video basically taught me how to drift. First i started with an old beat up E34 535i but now got myself an E39 M5, whipping it about every corner :)
Love his steering techniques
Hello Mister Harris,
I follow you from Belgium since a long time...
You are just the best pilot journalist I ever saw. Sorry for my mistakes in English.
If you come a day in Belgium, don't hesitate to contact me. I will show you the Molignee Valley where stars of rally like Patrick Snijers, Marc Duez,... had their best days.
Best regards
One of the best videos out about how to start and the drift. Thanks man!!!
Dude you were doing an insane drift whule talking and explaining.... amazing man! sublime...
respect that man knows what doing.
An awesome driver, great reviewer of cars and top bloke! If only he'd give me driving lessons! :)
Chris makes it look so easy. There are other things to take into consideration, which he does here without explaining, such as corner entrance speed, what line you need to take to allow enough room for the slide, and turning back into the corner during the slide to induce more slide if needed, which is what he's doing in between 6:27 and 6:30, and again more drastically at 6:41.
Awesome!So much detail and clear voice.
No fair Chris, you are in the perfect car to do this!
Excellent instructional video. This really is superb car control and advice.
You are awseome i admire you,i own an 320d e46 from the past '00,and i wish drive an M5,but now is not possible,greetings from Romania!
Love the fact this company supports our peace officers !
40 seconds in and I had to give this a thumbs up. Awesome stuff
no doubt chris is one of the best journalist/drivers working today.
sad drivers republic gone down .
where he is right now?
Chris makes it look all too easy, fabulous driving mate!! I've got a BMW 520d and am not sure I want to rip up my new tires... Just yet ;-)
u can't do what he did with a 520d, unless there is snow
toxik217 thanks figured as much! Probably need a 3-400bhp beast (minimum) to pull off what he did.
nah the 3.0d is way more than enough but the thing we are missing is the LSD(limited slip differential). Each time we try to drift without a LSD only one of the wheels will be spinning like mad thus losing power and losing the slide. if u have e60 u can try in a parking lot when its empty you'll see what I mean :D. e39 520d is a bit short on power :( Have fun and stay safe (:
toxik217 ahh gotcha, that's the 'lock' he keeps mentioning. Is the LSD only on the M3/5's or does the 'M' package include it as well, I'm assuming the former?? Thanks, you too :D
sadly only M cars get a LSD. Not even the M135/M235 get a real one. This is strictly reserved for M3,4,5,6 :| Cheers :)
very nice driving, really nice advice.....
take heed experienced drivers.
While oversteer is not the fastest way around a paved track, it's important to have car control so you can save yourself from crashing if you get on the throttle too soon. On a dirt track or rally course it allows the driver to steer the car since the front wheels aren't gripping very good.
Gather up instructions are very clear and just what I wanted to know
is this a m5 with turbo?
the noise likes a turbo???
great techniques
My old nail m5 . Ha ha I love these cars had one many moons ago. Loved it
wow I want him as my driving instructor
there are many ways to initiate a drift. clutch kicking, using a handbrake, preloading the car. here the surface is wet and slick so it is easy to break traction with just turning in and throttling
08 e90 m3 in the intro may be the greatest production BMW ever made
I guess it's personal preference, I just find it easier to modulate when it's less sensitive and easier to counter when there is no added weight. For normal driving in the twisties or for a quick overtake sport is very good though.
He's at evo, and I agree, great journalist.
chris is a awesome drifter
Now once you got the three stages of the drift sorted out, the world is your oyster. You see, the possibilities are endless because you can induce a slide whenever you want to, you can control it, through steering and throttle, you can get away and come back into a straight line, whenever you want..
when i heard chis harris's voice... i went insane
Yes sir. Just get a loose surface like some gravel or snow and have a ball. But be careful! A big ole diesel truck is likely to roll if put too sideways haha
@raze203 At the start of the second drift, Chris applied throttle aggressively in order to get the rear tires to break traction. The differential may have momentarily locked due to the tires spinning at different rates combined with the sudden application of power. That would have caused the bang you heard.
Might Chris be the Stig?
sometimes microphones or speakers pick up frequencies from the engine electronics, notice the pitch exactly follows the rpms. I can't explain how but I've seen this phenomenon elsewhere too, even in one of my cars.
might have been the shock absorbers or whatever those were that maxed out on their travel and produced that bang.
@Crowie74 ofcourse ;) the R8 V10 is perfect for powersliding ;)
@LP640ROADSTERdk
thanks i saw it
still think he would do great in a tv show
first degree carnuts,great reporter,connoisseur,great driver.
I always found it better with sport on, sharper throttle response makes for quicker adjustability.. same with steering weight
No, read the title. This is for power oversteering. You can find videos on shift locking, clutch kicking, handbraking, and weight shifting around here.
There is no superchargers on an M5.. but I did notice that whine is present even on the normal E39.. my cousin has a 528i and it whines as well, thought it was the torque converter but this is a manual and it still whines!
That is possibly the dirtiest M5 I have ever seen. I love it.
This video is like the Bible. Instructions handed down directly from God on how to behave properly...when drifting.
Great vid!!
Can you use the same technique with a 4wd performance car like a 911 turbo, or Lambo?
@JSlShow Yeah that´s right.. if you talk about a rally driver, he´s awful.. but if talking about drifting and oversteering, Block has a great handling over his car in gymkhana
it does to a certain extent, although you still need to be fully aware of where the steering wheel is when you want to counter-steer. check this video /watch?v=5Tq2-yFU9_M from 4:30 you'll see he lets go of the wheel completely and it does spin on its own. It's possible to really forcefully steer into the turn then just let go and let the car start the counter-steer for you, but you will need to catch it on the way back or the car will just flick round in the other direction
Wonder how many people wrote off their cars after watching this :D
Chris calls it a drift... But you know thanks for the correction! 👍🏼👦🏽
Amazing car ! and great driving
I love that old 400hp M5
@yukiotakata yeah he is immense! he does a lot for EVO magazine (in my opinion the best car mag in england) and i think he does some for Autocar aswell.
i just got a 350z and i really want to try some power oversteer but finding a place where its safe to practise is not so easy.
With all the JDM-wannabe 'dori' BS here, why has this *classic petrolhead instructional* (IMO) only got ~100k views? Deserves far more - not sure where the 6 thumbs down came from either.
The Monkey has truly exquisite skill, watching mastery at this level whilst he calmly explains the process... I'll keep learning but that's a rare and fine talent. Bravo.
@1697P
Ofcourse this is very personal and can vary by different persons.
Personally, I like it when i can just reach the top of the wheel with straight arms, that way my arms are slightly bend when I'm holding it 13:50
The shelling peas bit made me laugh.
awesome video mate
interfered? was it possibly a non-shielded aftermarket setup? or do you think about those flashy-fancy things that adjust the volume the more you rev, so you still can hear the radio, even whilst revving 5k+?
I wonder if I'll be able to do this in my 2003 Nissan Nivara...
I take the sandbag ballasts out of the back first though.
@elmarko99
thanks i saw it
still sad that DR went down.
I would give up my reproductive abilities for a car that I can drive like this!!
Problem is when I try to prepare my seat that i can put my hand on top of the steering wheel as it is shown, I'm very very close to the steering wheel.
And I'm afraid of the airbag if it comes out at an accident. Maybe I have short arms...
Do some of ypu have the same problem?
e39 is such a sick car!
this video makes me want an e39 m5 a lot
chris harris really puts every other auto journalist to shame
he needs his own show
As he entered at 1:58, I immediately started smiling uncontrollably.
Great video..
That sound is from the camera or mic connected to the car
Its funny. I drift on Forza with a force feedback wheel and I've never drifted in real life. When I bought an E39 M5 (the car Chris Harris is driving) I drifted it and controlled it perfectly, getting out of the drift smoothly is the hard part though and thats what takes in car practice.
the E39 is easy to drift due to 3 factors, locking diff, 400/400hp/ft lbs, long wheelbase
Drivers Republic represent!
Good fun! Thanks for the upload!
great video
Good video. Cheers!
The bang you can hear is the diff, locking to the other side.
@salmanbioshock yeah me too... but apparently that's the diff locking
Hi chaps, how easy is it to drift an open diff mk1 mx5 with 115 bhp and good tyres? Thanks
man do me a favour... if you can make a tutorial about drifting ,managing a car and pushing it to the limits with a haldex tractioned car like an audi tt (the first generation) i would be much pleased. in fact its difficult to drift it because not much torque goes to the rear wheels. thank you. inform me if you do !
they use the handbrake to put the car into a slide once the car is sliding you can keep it that way by accelerating. at low speeds is not necesary if your car is powerful...in the other hand...handbrake will make it slide at any speed with or without power. The handbrake slide came out of rally just to put the car into slide mode at the required speed. He doesn't use the handbrake because the car is probably not his...since handbrake slide is harsh on the car components.
I think E39 Electronics interfere with other electronics.Me dad had a 528i and the radio was interfered specific to RPM's
I did this and threads of tire/string (tread?) started coming off my rear tire, I also drive an e46 bmw, a 2002 330i sport to be exact. problem is my dad is a mechanic and i don't want him to find out, this just happened yesterday, does anyone have any solutions on covering this or a good excuse? thanks.
buy new tyres
Could be the sound of the diff locking violently as he changes direction? But yeah chris is like the keiichi tsuchiya of UK...
That noise is the camera picking up the voltage being kicked out by the alternator from the cig lighter socket...
nope, 5.0 V8 Naturally aspirated engine, the sounds you hear is the one of the differential probably
Miata plus wet road equals this on a daily basis plus 20+ mpg (: fun cheap and economical(as long as you dont hit a dry spot and burn tires off)
@1697P what? you still have your airbag? replace it with another steering wheel.
did you hit something at 6:30?
Or did the camera bash against something...
THE CONCASTINATION WITHIN THE COMMITMENT OF ACTION IS RELEVANT TO CONTROL ON TRANSITION OF THE 4 WHEELS.
@Talybanu88
it doesnt have a turbo
@forbello
Comparing Block to Loeb is like comparing paper to a jet engine. Just throw the paper away, there's no comparison.
well, it is ... easy & difficult
but most of all: FUN & real driving PLEASURE
;-)
My mum had a heap of shit that ford called a cortina back in the 70s. The original AM radio when not tuned to any specific station would play a very loud whine that perfectly matched the RPM instead of your usual static. Some freaky interference going on somewhere in that thing.
@9090336 what about teh blow off sound? would have been able to hear that no?
yes but what about his gymkhana performance?
@yukiotakata He's writing for evo magazine (@evotv) and posts privately on youtube as @theharrismonkey . Also freelancing elsewhere; he has recently written for Jalopnik.
it is quite easy, just need practice on an empty road or private property.
how fast do ya think you were going during those drifts?
Could it be the diff locking?
The e39 is probably one of the easiest cars to learn to drift in, because its not as snappy as a e36 or an e30.