How to PROPERLY gank and why it sucks

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  • @vinsonnguyen8717
    @vinsonnguyen8717 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    You're my new favorite LoL content creator! Your videos are always so informative and I really enjoy watching you dissect the game in a calm and controlled way.

  • @fastslow002
    @fastslow002 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    2:15 that's when he realized he is in low elo💀💀😭😭

    • @Lone_Wolf_91
      @Lone_Wolf_91 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yea it waa freaking hilarious😂

    • @Kittensinabox
      @Kittensinabox 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zyra warded at 1:30 in his tribush not enemy tribush. Perry just messed up the scryer there was 0% chance the enemy tribush was warded and he should've angled it towards his own tribush.

  • @Rexalt
    @Rexalt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    6:50 guy goes in early, dies, blames you with ping. This is all of my ganks.

  • @dakid2323
    @dakid2323 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Perry is not just the best Jg youtuber. He has become the best lol content creator period.

    • @netnooker
      @netnooker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah because noone has ever smurfed in low elo to make guides lmao this guys is the only one😂

  • @brandon.a
    @brandon.a 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is exactly how I feel when I gank heavy, on both warwick and evelynn. It feels like Im always behind, always a coin flip away from losing everything, never strong enough, and the enemy jungler merely needs to get CS and objectives to surpass me.
    Just had a game as evelynn yesterday where I saw my top laner was losing, my mid yasuo was getting poked under tower, and my bot lane was losing as well. So I focused on farming, objectives, warding for team and pinging. I was ahead of enemy jungle by more than 40 cs and 2 levels by 10 minutes.
    My teammates were not happy, lol. Their embarrassment of being gapped turned into hatred towards me. I carried hard (7/1/10 score) but we lost anyways because top started diving towers in protest. Midlane and both bot laners actually caught up because of the lead and impact I was having by not ganking for the first several minutes.
    I dunno, I guess you’re hated no matter how you play lol

    • @Beautifuls
      @Beautifuls 50 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      I feel you bro, mute all and try your best

  • @spunkin49
    @spunkin49 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    after watching this it really does seem like the proper way to play jungle is to just full clear into an objective, but maybe gank if its really good

    • @Lone_Wolf_91
      @Lone_Wolf_91 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yea this really shows what Agurin was trying to explain but our boy PerryJG showed it in real game.

    • @riverjustice
      @riverjustice 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds good in theory but if you’re weak jungler early game you’ll most likely get invaded a lot of good players. So you only can do 3 camps and gank because that’s the only play.

  • @TheMeleagan
    @TheMeleagan 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a support main, i feel you. When you said, i got my team mates kills now it's up to them, i understand that perfectly ^^

  • @zedimental1665
    @zedimental1665 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really like the “play for yourself, that way you only have yourself to blame” mentality. Gotta frame that and put that up on my wall

  • @CrazySauceEST
    @CrazySauceEST 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey bro, great great great video! I had a problem with over ganking until I started watching your vids and now prioritize farm and gank when I have ult up and I've climbed from iron1 to silver 3. Cheers from Boston ☘️

  • @ryanrossy853
    @ryanrossy853 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you perry! These videos really help!

  • @tom6875
    @tom6875 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    been enjoying your vids a lot bro. personally i find playing vs the abstract junglers like ivern/eve/shaco (what i perma ban) to be the hardest things for me to vs, thus allowing the premium picks to get through lillia/zyra/etc

  • @smokelingers9857
    @smokelingers9857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I'm just full clearing every game now and watching my teammates die to ganks from junglers 2 levels lower than me after I ping their approximate position every 15 seconds until herald spawns. Majority of people queuing for ranked are just grinders who climb by repeating the same motions day in and day out. They'll ignore you if you ping anything outside theirlane pre 15 mins. They will all in and die 1v5 if someone pings an objective after 15 mins. An enemy in close proximity to their champion activates Briar W. They're not playing Briar. And the best part is? It's the jungler's fault, so report that guy.

    • @codybrandsma6582
      @codybrandsma6582 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good job afk jungling and prob missing out on a dozen free kills a game, but ya its ur teams fault

    • @smokelingers9857
      @smokelingers9857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@codybrandsma6582 How is it afk jungling if I'm actively tracking the opposing jungler? And I didn't say I'm never going to lanes. I get those free kills when they're actually valuable, don't worry. You're probably one of those high death brawler types with a max of 200 gold per minute that fights on sight. Only one of those would say "afk jungling."

    • @smokelingers9857
      @smokelingers9857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@codybrandsma6582 In any case, I don't want to be mean, so I'm sorry if I have been. For further context, I'm mostly playing Shyvana. And this isn't some copy of Agurin, I've been playing AP Shyvana on and off for years. You can't really gank pre 6 unless the stars align. And it's not like your ult makes you the best at ganking, either. Shyvana in ult is good at putting champions in the red, speed clearing jungle camps, doing massive aoe damage in teamfights, and breaking structures. I hit 9.2 cs per min, 5k+ structure damage, and 475 gold per min pretty easily. I get to fights with Nashors Tooth and Rabaddons by the 2nd or 3rd drake. If people would take a little time to understand just how strong of a champion that is in the right circumstance, then they'd ping me away from ganking their lanes lol.

    • @codybrandsma6582
      @codybrandsma6582 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smokelingers9857 always most gold/most dmg but usually most deaths but i like to have a good time, you're either really glad im ur adc or u hate ur life

    • @smokelingers9857
      @smokelingers9857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@codybrandsma6582 If you are most gold most damage but you simultaneously have the most deaths, then you've given over shutdown gold multiple times and racked up fake damage. What I mean by fake damage is that it's just an inflation of the damage graph that accrued no advantage. More on that below. But in the case you are giving away leads, even if you are still at parity with the opponent, any jungler that was investing a significant amount of time ganking for you is now behind. They gave you a lead at some expense of their own and you've lost it.
      So, about damage. Player A, a jungler, has dealt 10k damage, they are at 5/2/8. Player B, an ADC, has dealt 34k damage, they are at 9/6/0. Who performed better? This is a question I see many gigabrain solo queue experts giving definitive answers to in my post game lobbies. The ADC player is a god that would have carried if not for that useless jungler. Tell me what you think of that analysis. Do you need more context than that?

  • @capitatv
    @capitatv 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Ok u surpassed my boy broxah as favorite educational streamer gg

  • @EliasOjeda-mv6cg
    @EliasOjeda-mv6cg 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After watching your vids now im liking jungle more and more :3

  • @Aiter918
    @Aiter918 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing about this play style is you have to be very efficient at getting your camps with down time and leveraging your teams strength for objectives. Then inevitably it will take longer to end because your champ needs to get stronger. So you have to be very comfortable in the mid and late parts of the game. And expect it to go 30+ minutes. At least in low elo or anytime you get team mates that aren’t used to pushing their lead to close out the game.

  • @JorgeGarcia-xg8iv
    @JorgeGarcia-xg8iv 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Perry, I love your videos. I tend to be hardstuck somewhere between low emerald and mid diamond depending on the season and meta. I'm currently going between d4 and d3 but I feel like I have no control over my games. I know part of it is not knowing win cons. Aside from just playing a lot, how can I ever really tell what lane match ups win, or what my game plan should be. Moreover, how do I adapt to a changing game, and players who get salty "they don't get help." (I've had literally 3 games back to back where someone would just run it down and split push and let our nexus die to rift).

  • @Cooliofamily
    @Cooliofamily 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Perry pumping out CONTENT

  • @blipojones2114
    @blipojones2114 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow even the first minute cleanly walk through a solid gank

  • @codyearthdust
    @codyearthdust 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I swear, you need to have outside the box thinking to be a good jungler and consider all options

  • @thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978
    @thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Honestly this is why i like carry junglers. Like fuck the team comp a bit, picking flex carries like viego and xinzhao. If i need to carry i can,if i need to back seat peel, and baby sit they can decently do it

  • @merchant_of_kek5697
    @merchant_of_kek5697 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s so fucking frustrating to see laners never give openings. I got out of bronze a little ago by consistently dropping 20 kill games LITERSLLY diving towers to get kills.

  • @danielsteinmetz
    @danielsteinmetz 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:50 - clearly missplayed from toplaner - still pinging. Lovely

  • @iliepopanu75
    @iliepopanu75 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A crab, a crab, my kingdom for a crab

  • @slimshaneyy
    @slimshaneyy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go next go next go next go next

  • @BragginRitesTV
    @BragginRitesTV 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here's the crazy thing. You've got 10 more kp than Nunu at 28:36, but the fact the has 41 more cs means he's level 16 to your 15. Levels are hugely important and ganking like this doesn't net you levels.

    • @JSNDragon
      @JSNDragon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Late game kills give way more experience as a percentage of the exp bar than early kills. They were even in exp at lvl 11. The issue only arose because Nunu was winning teamfights.
      Riot nerfed early kill experience specifically to nerf gank spamming junglers last year, as before the guy who spammed ganks could abuse the exp system to never be more than half a level behind.

    • @SinBlancaiser
      @SinBlancaiser 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats what he wants to prove with this video, that spamming ganks is not a reliable thing anymore

  • @leonardobentivoglio3431
    @leonardobentivoglio3431 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Emerald videos are so good

  • @hata6290
    @hata6290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OOOO VOLI GAME LETS GO PERDOG

  • @tonybeam8394
    @tonybeam8394 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jnglois, fantastic!!!!

  • @TheHyterion
    @TheHyterion 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just started using ganking jng's more with a mid duo and for comp team, really pushes the pace of the game to destroy the farming and scalers.

    • @thestoebz
      @thestoebz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If you’re trying to get better, a duo is a bad choice

    • @TheHyterion
      @TheHyterion 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thestoebz not if im trying to get better at playing around a lane, or for competitive play. but thanks for being a twat

    • @Halosar
      @Halosar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheHyterionHe’s not being a twat moron he’s trying to help you. When your duo is offline you’re fucked because you don’t know how to play without a teammate.

  • @xet3953
    @xet3953 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But can you still say that ganking a lot is bad at pro play? Or does it only apply for a soloq experience?

  • @huuREG
    @huuREG 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nice video

  • @Chomusuke1
    @Chomusuke1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How i gank playing Karthus: enemy and ally portraits got to close together on the minimap so i press R while continuing to clear jungle.

  • @rdmctague
    @rdmctague 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel being ahead in kills but behind in turrets by the middle of that video in my soul...

    • @smokelingers9857
      @smokelingers9857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rdmctague This happens so often in low elo. The laners will win all ins, survive on low hp, and never take plates. Even when I gank successfully and immediately start shoving the wave I get pinged furiously. Laner has demolish? They're recalling because apparently the only thing you can do after getting a kill in lane is recall to spend gold. Then they leave base with boots and a long sword instead of a BF sword. Or all the components of a Lost Chapter. It's painful to see.

  • @tankGragasbuthedoesntact-ic3bo
    @tankGragasbuthedoesntact-ic3bo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    understood full clearing to masters on Elise as we speak

    • @hata6290
      @hata6290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Didn’t he actually do one with Elise?

    • @perryjg
      @perryjg  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      indeed, i did: th-cam.com/video/n6Oj_ng2gi8/w-d-xo.html

    • @hata6290
      @hata6290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@perryjg hey goat 😳

  • @99temporal
    @99temporal 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20:06 vaynespotting

  • @goldensea03idk51
    @goldensea03idk51 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a support player I feel like I can’t mute chat because I have to tell my teammates how I want to play, as a jungler I feel like I have to mute chat because they won’t listen XD

  • @scotlandsbest6039
    @scotlandsbest6039 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    guys farm junglers are legit so op right now you will be 2 levels ahead of enemy jungler if you are farming and they gank and get nothing for it or if you counter jungle their camps trust its because of exps buffs

  • @ridddlewrong
    @ridddlewrong 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so far best jg channel viewed on par with AloisNL on toplane

  • @lurk6979
    @lurk6979 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Please do Shyvana 👉👈

  • @AtomicBadgerRacer
    @AtomicBadgerRacer 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you should do a companion video showing the more selfish game style to compare how the games go with voli edit: ah just got to your comment about the other voli video

  • @koach8428
    @koach8428 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cool video. you showing play around minion waves. its very important and cool but you should also mind champions, their skillset and snowballing + scaling ratio when you decide your path. You see you wasted too much time on your scaling vayne and ignored your snowballing mid laner. in the end, tris made your game harder and couldnt get many objectives because of lower mid prio. Also, 9-2 vayne has contributed much as 2-9 vayne.

  • @theunwanted37
    @theunwanted37 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy is really playing everything except Jarvan just to spite me.

    • @jaylenpeoples6517
      @jaylenpeoples6517 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I need him to play udyr just for the giggles

  • @ruinxd3925
    @ruinxd3925 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    u say playing for ganks suck but then i take a entire side of camps from a shaco or nunu just for them to spam gank and not care about losing camps when they can invade after ganks with prio it sure look like theyre fun champs to play against

  • @leon30517
    @leon30517 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    lol this sett is such a whiny crybaby

  • @StrackVisuals
    @StrackVisuals 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now can you play voli again but farm only :D

  • @trenth2185
    @trenth2185 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean I understand what you’re saying but I don’t think ganking is that bad if you’re the one getting the kills no? Of course you won’t be the one in position to carry if you’re dropping tons of camps just to get assist yk? KS’ing is definitely a skill in itself and can be harder on certain champs though. Nice vid

  • @hassanadelhassan7386
    @hassanadelhassan7386 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why u didnt take ur red buff after golems

    • @monadoboiz9778
      @monadoboiz9778 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's all about tempo. Sure he could have gotten his red, but then he would have been late to top lane. Sett would have recalled or gotten dove by TK and then there is no gank.

    • @Goldeneye3336
      @Goldeneye3336 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@monadoboiz9778 Nah, he chose to path towards top.

  • @infrared561
    @infrared561 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are all AD with Zyra, Nunu and Tahm?
    Katarina still deals magic damage, even with an AD build.

  • @richardhook5895
    @richardhook5895 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How is he moving the map cam so fast?

    • @Xpecial828
      @Xpecial828 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      F keys will jump your camera to your teammates

    • @richardhook5895
      @richardhook5895 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Xpecial828thanks bro

  • @michaelb.5573
    @michaelb.5573 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how do you switch camera perspectives so fast?

    • @Halosar
      @Halosar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      F keys F1 F2 F3 F4

  • @jasbob1
    @jasbob1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why skip red after krug on first clear

    • @monadoboiz9778
      @monadoboiz9778 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Tempo, tempo, tempo. It's one of the more important fundamentals to learn on Jg. Yeah, he could have taken his red buff, but then he would've been late to toplane. Notice how he bought tier 2 boots to get to top faster. The sett would have recalled or been dove by TK, missing a prime gank opportunity. Sure, he could have just ran top after taking red, but he would still be late, with unspent gold and no advantage.

    • @Goldeneye3336
      @Goldeneye3336 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@monadoboiz9778 That's not tempo. That's pathing.

    • @monadoboiz9778
      @monadoboiz9778 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Goldeneye3336 Tempo essentially comes down to staying ahead of your opponent in time, *by setting up everything you need to do before an objective and being prepared.* Examples are having good lane states, *recall timings* and rotations. Pathing is just walking around the map. Recalling, buying, and heading top is good tempo. 100%

    • @Goldeneye3336
      @Goldeneye3336 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@monadoboiz9778 Not really. You are confused. I feel sorry for you. Tempo is the pace at which you play. It's very simple. Pathing is where you're heading.

    • @monadoboiz9778
      @monadoboiz9778 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Goldeneye3336 Yes, and everything i've already mentioned involves the speed at which you play. If you think tempo is only "how fast you play", you're the one that's confused. Yes, pathing is involved in tempo, but it also involves timing your recalls, timing rotations, planning ahead for wave states, preparing ahead of time for objectives, how fast you clear camps or waves, etc. Tempo boils down to timing. Good tempo = good timing. If he got to top any slower (for example, taking red buff and then going top) he would have been late to top and down on items, putting him farther behind. That's tempo. He planned ahead to path top. He didn't "just" path top. It was calculated. Watch a couple of videos on the subject and get back to me. If you don't understand after that, there's no saving you.

  • @thestoebz
    @thestoebz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He’s a little slow in the head 😂

  • @SilvaProductions34
    @SilvaProductions34 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro that Sett was so annoying. You were literally winning his lane for him and he still pinged

  • @truthspeaker6689
    @truthspeaker6689 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tell us instead of give us a full game