Again, Glenn I am in awe the way you tackle this projects. You really need to know everything if you own a sailboat. electronics scares the crap out of me.
Thanks Gerald. There are several other videos on maintenance. All in our Maintenance playlist on our TH-cam home page (Sail Cloudy Bay). And I'm just now back at the boat doing more maintenance, so more video in the next month or so.
I enjoy the OCD attitude toward your boat and the importance of keeping on top of the the details before they become an issue wwhile at sea.... You folks have the cleanest boat on TH-cam.... :-)
Thanks Thomas. I used to work for a company providing technical services in oil & gas drilling and exploration. In my early years "in the field" (on rigs) I was an engineer and had to deal with lots of systems, hands on and often in a panic. I then went into management for the next 20 years (where I met Oana). But coming onto Cloudy Bay is like going back to those field days where I have to wear all hats, mechanical, electrical, electronics, hydraulics and pneumatic .... and also chemical with the water maker! I LOVE this part of sailing - having everything working perfectly. And on a yacht like Cloudy, the multiple systems do all need to work if you want to sail short handed. I do find it hard to imagine how other owners, who are not practically minded, manage with long distance cruising. Well, I kind of know .... they spend alot of time in each port looking for someone to fix their gear. Someone who likely does not know the boat and with unknown skill. And for me, there is only one way to know how something works is when it fails and you are forced to fix it!
@@SailCloudyBay That's the right attitude. It seems to me that those that are most successful with their livaboard and/or ciricum navigation life style are those that know their boat and equipment and how to maintain it to avoid problems and how to fix things them self when there are a problem. Because nothing is free from problems all the time. Then it is a good thing to be prepared.
And once through the Panama, the only person that will be available to fix anything is me! .... until we get to New Zealand. I had a mission to know the boat inside out before that time. Even after 2 years, there is still alot to learn.
Hi Glen,@@SailCloudyBay Did you gain all of your mechanical skills @ SLB working out on the rigs or growing up, were you and maybe your Dad motor heads? I went through the same "hands on" with my involvement with owning my own transportation company in the coal fields. On those hydraulic fittings, I take it the new $1k couplers you installed now have stainless or synthetic ball bearings of some sort in them. Out on the North Sea on the rigs I would suspect this would have showed up on their fittings as well with the constant salt air/water exposure. Good thing you noticed the tell tale rust streaks. Can they be covered somehow like the terminal end shroud fittings are? CB has massive coverings on her fittings, not like those boats you see with just some sort of tape wrap. Have a great run down to Antigua - English Harbour I assume.
Just arrived to Jolly Harbour yesterday. We will be hauled out to finish the hull. I did indeed get my mechanical and practical aptitude from growing up with a similar Dad and elder brothers. Dad always had to have a go at fixing things himself, most of the time successfully, even if a bit mickymouse (improvised). Without this aptitude, I doubt Schlumberger would have hired me. We had pretty tough practical tests on hiring. These days, due to the complexity of the technologies, the engineers are hired more for their computer skills. If something breaks they just send it back to town and use a back up, or a land based technician fixes it remotely over the internet. In my day we had to get the solder iron out and work out what the hell was happening, while the whole rig waited on us. No pressure! Interesting. I had not thought about what hydraulic fittings we had offshore on the rigs. I think they were a mixture of stainless and alloy. That said, we did have alot of corrosion issues, which were always prevented by copious quantities of grease. Grease on a yacht is a bit of a no-no, grease on a rig is on everything you touch is seemed. Especially the food!
What an episode....fantastic. Cloudy Bay looks showroom condition and more, which is all down to your hard work and effort. Every small detail has been checked repaired if need be, polished, painted, scrapped, primed, etc your attention for detail is a lesson to us all. Thank you so much for showing us this work. May the winds bless you with great sailing.⛵️
Loved how happy you both are together and how confidently you dealt with each repair while providing interesting comments along the way. I found myself identifying with you and feeling very much part of the process of getting the yacht ready for your continuing voyage. I consider your channel to be quite a discovery and look forward to catching up to the present day.
Thank you so much for recording all the maintenance detail you presented. It shows how much time is needed to keep a sail boat in ship-shape. I’m just begining my adventure. So I deeply appreciate your vBlog, particularly this detail. It may have been a bit tedious for Oana to record these details, but they were immensely valuable for me to see! Thank you!!!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Perry, thanks for the really nice comment. Yes, it did take Oana time to shoot and even more to edit. I think there were over 300 video clips to edit into that one. We were a bit worried no one would watch such a long one all on maintenance. But we were clearly wrong. And yes, to keep the boat in top shape it does need alot of these kind of activities. When you think we are living on board 24/7 using all the systems and sailing hard through a hostile salty environment, its not surprising. Sorry for late reply ... we were busy sailing!
@@SailCloudyBay Hey, just want to chime in and say that videos on maintenance, upgrades, haulouts etc. are really appreciated. I find them the most interesting!
You did a really nice job of making kind of a boring topic in to a spellbinding video. Bravo. Excellent maintenance skills AND excellent videography skills. The mellow style you both have is so.... well... mello. Congratulations.
Spectacular video and thank you so much for staying with us. We are very happy that you enjoyed your stay and found the onsite contractors and grounds to be helpful and convenient.
Glad you enjoyed the video. We primarily came to HHN by recommendation of Roger and Liz in Free State yachts. And we almost didn't get in depth wise! But we have to say that we would recommend the yard to anyone. Your staff and the way you interacted with the customer is both pleasant and professional. The onsite contractors, whilst not the cheapest, were excellent too. That said, we have generally found all marine services in USA rather expensive vs Europe, so HHN does not stand out particularly in that regard. Thanks for a very nice stay in very pleasant and well kept surroundings.
That was a a lot of fun to watch and I've watched several of your posts as they come out and if you can keep this type of theme going, with maintenance , on board situations that occur, and of course navigation advise and instruction for us we will all enjoy the posting even more, great stuff..
Thanks James. It was alot of maintenance to record in just one episode, but had to be done. Thanks for the great feedback. We will continue to endeavor to make the videos interesting, covering all aspects that we go through while cruising. The full details of what we get up to and challenges are all in our blog on sailcloudybay.com.
@@SailCloudyBay Sorry that I missed your visit to Bermuda, my Island home. I didn't think you would try the crossing while all those lows were passing by, it was bloody terrible weather, and your online AIS location disappeared once you left USA,, argh,, great footage of the island none the less and you certainly did a lot of travelling around despite the cold and wet weather, perhaps on your next visit, in the summer ;-)we can add some footage of Island hospitality with a bbq at my home; during the winter we locals tend to 'disappear' indoors or at the pub, not to reappear till April. Fair winds, and my best to you both.
Wow. When you guys came in I saw my boat! Bought her from Harrington Harbor where she sat almost completely abandoned. Now she is sailing in Annapolis happy as can be!
Thanks Steven. Oana is very much appreciating your comment. She is now working really hard at this and I agree the results are getting better and better.
That were some serious yard works! Quite the list 😀 Great elaborate video much to see and learn 😇 From Flintstone tactics to umbrella workshops and taking apart the propellor 👍👍 Needed more than one portion of popcorn here 😂 Ready for the sun, rest from the hard work and some great sailing: enjoy and thank you!
I've been following you on your adventures, very impressed. Also very impressed at your engineering prowess, makes me feel like I.m a slacker when it comes to maintenance. Can't wait to get aboard again.
Thanks for the nice comment Ed. When living aboard there is high motivation to get out of the yard ASAP ... whereas if the boat is there all winter there isnt quite the same drive to get things done. I've been there too.
Enjoyed the vid! If you continue to experience the bow thruster motor spitting black goo, check the commutator bars for wear, and check the motor bearings for runout.
Thanks Ron. We actually thought people might find this boring. But apparently not. Very glad you enjoyed it. Next time I'll get you to come and help :)
I'm still shaking from raw nerves from watching that harrowing trip from Bermuda to Antigua. Wow, the boat halfway sideways and the captain, seemingly, unaware of the danger of slipping overboard. And no life jackets! Help! If one of you has been washed overboard on that treacherous trip, I see no way you would have survived. Good luck daredevil. ;)
PFD or not, fact is my wife can not handle the boat and would never get back to me. I’m basically a single hander. Single handers rarely wear safety gear. They rather just make damned sure they don’t fall off. That’s me.
I saw this video more and more times. It's fantastic the way you do everything on your boat. In these sad and viral days I point out a series of videos of people who are completely renovating an old HR 312, with truly exemplary capacity and care. They explane step by step the work. If you want, take a look: they are from Treviso (North Italy, near Venice), but in the movies they speak (with a marked and nice Italian accent) English. I have appreciated them very much and I point them out to you. I belive you will enjoy it. Cheers
Love your videos, they’re edited perfectly, especially the sailing experience. I really do feel as though I am sharing the adventure with you. I am less envious, when I see the drudgery of boat maintenance, I have been there. Keep the videos coming, and continue your life of untrammeled bliss, with your little “Honey Bunny”. Many people live vicariously through you... However, I would like to see a cross word between the two of you, once in a while, just to keep it real. Or is it really that perfect!
Great comment, thanks. Yes we do have the odd cross word, but its rare that we have the camera either at hand or running when we do! And as you know, we couldnt fake getting upset with each other just for the camera. That said, our disagreements are very rare considering me and Bunny :) are continuously together 24/7 in a small space.
If you have the time and will It would be nice if you make a video (or an article on your blog) about all the tools (powered and not) that you bought for the boat over the years
Hi Glen and Juana from Space City and the Oil Capital of the World, Houston, Texas. I am a recent convert to the Cloudy Bay channel and crew. I love y'all. Folks I'd love to crack crab with. Glen, you are a model for all men in the way you love your wife and care for your boat and Juana, your forever smile and joy is wonderful. Fair winds - God bless you and keep you, Jack :-)
Jack, what a truly wonderful comment. One of our favorites for sure. I used to live in Houston, over in Sugar Land, in my former working life! Maybe we will crack crab with you someday. All the best to you.
Hi Glen and Oana (note the correct spelling this time - I think) thank you so much for the sweet and thoughtful reply. How amazing that you spent some time here in the Houston area. Had to be either tech or energy, I'm guessing. I grew up a mile from NASA (Mission Control) and in very close proximity to one of the largest boating communities in the world. With that said, I wanted to offer myself as a resource any time along the way - if I can ever pick up a part or ship anything to y'all along the way, please consider me your friend and resource and I'd love to do so as a family member would. Glen, I saw that you had notes of where your spare flagpole was stored and I've seen you are a keeper of data, so add me to your spreadsheet of long distance resources. :-) Happy to help a brother (and a sister) any time along the way. God's blessings, Jack and Denise from deep in the heart of Texas - Yeehah!!
I have a high respect and admiration for the work you completed yourself........Your background surely comes in handy...You keep Cloudy Bay immaculate.....Where the hell do you keep all your tools and parts...lol....It was a shame you could not work out the prep/painting of the bottom so everything was 100% complete......With that said, you will get better paint material down south which is unavailable in the states......The guys did a nice job of the patch and match of the teak rail that was damaged.....You never did tell us the outcome of the insurance of liability/settlement from the accident....Safe travels...
Thanks. Well, we do certainly have a lot of tools and parts in various lockers. This boat is like a cavern for stowage below and in deck and cockpit lockers. And all very accessible. It was one of the key selling points for us. I never did hear back from the person that hit us with his insurance details, which he promised (and he is an OCC member too!). So if you see North Star around, feel free to ram him from me please! But my insurance repaid me the cost of all the repairs - Pantaenius - they are fantastic in customer support. Apparently they will now chase the guy that rammed us.
You truly are good. I’m a big believer of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. If I do what your doing I’ll probably end up spent my time working on my sailboat vs sailing.
Well, me too actually. I also don't like to mess with anything that is behaving itself. And frankly there is always a long list of misbehaving items that precludes anything else. But, while out the water there are some jobs that you have to do. Cant service the prop for instance when in the water. And it was not always feathering properly, recently, so was ready for a service. The other aspect is that, while its not classed as "messing with things that are working OK", I do constantly keep a lookout for tell-tail signs of problems. Like the hydraulic fittings. I'd noticed some minor rust marks coming out of them ... which shouldn't be, because they are supposedly stainless steel. But when I took them apart i found the ball bearings that lock the fitting into place are made of steel an were completely seized. I got them off just in time. Another few months and they would not have budged. And to replace those fittings is $1000 each! Its true that I do alot of maintenance, but then we are living aboard and using the systems 24/7. Previously, when only weekend sailing I never seemed to have so many issues. But then the usage was significantly less plus I had a whole winter to dabble and fix things.
Sail Cloudy Bay Why are you still using a propeller, we have a 34 meter catamaran and have switched to jet drives. This has eliminated all of the problems that come with props.
Douglas, you must have a big family :). I would say an average family sail boat is 1/3 the length of yours and certainly only one engine. Clearly your must be a motor boat, not sailing?
Thanks Annette. Just wondering, if you are not a sailor nor particularly engineer orientated, what drew you to our videos? Just trying to understand our audience and the different aspects of our videos that draws people to view them.
Hi, I watch quite a few sailing channels and am drawn to them so much, I cannot understand it myself. However I have always been drawn to the sea and living on an island and being surrounded by water I always prefer to be by the sea or ocean even though we live in the countryside and are surrounded by the Yorkshire and Derbyshire Dales this is my preference. Don’t know that I believe in past life I’ve often thought that maybe that is the reason, wired, I know! Annette from the UK xx
Interesting. Well, Ellen MacArthur was bought up in the dales, and look what a sailor she became! Now there is a "wired" person if ever I saw one. Absolutely incredible what she did.
John Turner yes we wanted to Soda blast with the company in the yard. But they were too expensive and the yard owner would not let any other company in. So we went to Antigua to have it done at 1/4 price.
bryan fowler truth is, if you can’t afford to have someone maintain your boat (@$100 per hour in USA!!) and you dont like the maintenance part of owning a boat, then yes you are right. DONT buy one!
HALE BURNSIDE MD I was an engineer in the oil and gas business. It I was always pretty dept with my hands as a kid. An upbringing with older brothers and no-TV-allowed helped.
@@SailCloudyBay THE NO TV IS a major plus . my grand father was a professional carpenter , and could make anything .. my dad and i picked up some of that , but it would be nice to be as talented as he was . it shows as your mechanical skill are quite good
Hi there - What an absolutely gorgeous boat. Congrats! I've enjoyed the video and thanks so much for the segment showing servicing of the Gori folding prop. I've recently installed a similar 3-blade Gori (albeit, a somewhat smaller 16.5") I also saved your video to my favorites as it should be a great resource to help with my end-of-season to-do list :). (There are surprisingly few videos showing maintenance for the Gori on YT!) As you've obviously some experience with the Gori design, I've noticed when initially setting off in forward gear (standard not overdrive), I can get some prop vibration, that will only increase and become more violent as the engine revs increase if not addressed. Fortunately this doesn't occur all the time, but seems to be more prone to happening if throttling up too quickly or if a strong headwind or opposing tide restricting forward momentum of the boat. Throttling down and returning back to neutral for a few seconds, before setting off again in forward seems to work most of the time, however only if the boat has some way. I was thinking this might be a cavitation issue, but not 100% sure (I've only been using the prop for a couple of weeks now). I found this technique to be less effective if starting off against a stronger tide or headwind since it it's that much more difficult to first get the boat moving with any forward momentum. Wondering if you may have also experienced any similar issues and whether you may have an idea about the potential cause? Unfortunately, the dealer hasn't been all that helpful so far. Any tips or tricks you have found would be appreciated! Cheers - Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
LittleGuitarConcert I can only think that it’s an unbalanced propeller or you have wear in your cutlass bearing. I doubt it’s cavitation, the RPM on these props is too slow.
@@SailCloudyBay Thank you so much - The cutlass bearing is fairly new and in near new condition prior to launch. Possibly the shaft is slightly out of alignment? - I will check, although no issues with prior fixed prop. I can't think of anything else that might affect prop balance. Still too new to be fouled with barnacles. I was hoping it might have been some sort of idiosyncrasy with the Gori !
wow, ive sailed on the chesapeake bay most of my life, Still seemed to find the shaws, My old 36 Catalina drew 6 foot. you did a good job. charts and depth finder,lol,
Well done capt and first mate looking at you two doing all that work I'm tired because i know the work that is involve ,Keep bringing us all that footage enjoyed it
Absolutely superb blog, fascinating and informative. Your knowledge is unsurpassed amongst the bloggers we've been watching... and Cloudybay is a superb boat. Lots of questions, please excuse my ignorance as we are very new to this... First, white grease on the gooseneck? Stainless to stainless is, well, ouch I would have thought, Corrosion on the aluminium mast/boom doesn't seem to be a problem on the Rassy, many boats we've looked as have had serious problems. Re-tapping the boom - was it an option to plate the other side to form a clamp? Through hull fittings and dezinctification - these can be obtained in 316 stainless but I gather there are pros and cons for both. Hoses; in the car and bike world we use silicone based hoses for strength, flex, heat resistance and general durability, I've not seen them on boats? Epoxy, anti-foul and so on, we are looking to copper coat, was that ever a consideration? The big cruisers are very complex and the Rassy seems to be one of the better ones for maintenance and servicing, was this a consideration at purchase? Love that keel, their reputation for strong build is well justified! Our biggest worry would always be grounding, you have nerves of steel going down that channel! Fantastic, and as commented elsewhere, superbly produced videos. Our limited knowledge is reflected in the questions above, but we have the same bug and boundless enthusiasm that the pair of you have. Well, done.
Bob, Thanks and Congratulations .... likely our longest comment ever! But we are in a rush to leave Bermuda this morning, so I will reply in about a week when we arrive to Antigua.
OK, we arrived to Antigua. Thanks for your enthusiasm. Very glad you liked the video and your questions are all very good ones. I'm guessing the "white grease" you see on the gooseneck is actually the film of plastic that Selden place wherever there is stainless steel touching the aluminium . Hence no corrosion there. Re-tapping the boom. Backing plate was not an option. Wish it was. directly above the slider is the electrical conduit along the bottom of the boom. The answer to the dezincification is to use Bronze (low zinc) and not Brass. I have never heard of anyone placing stainless steel through hull fittings below the water line. Not sure why, but must be a good reason Re hoses. Funnily enough a few days later I did find a automobile hose that was perfect for the job! Coppercoat has indeed got a reasonably good reputation. But when we bought the boat 3 years ago it was already freshly anti fouled. And to put copper coat on would requite complete strip off of all the standard anti foul then application. Huge cost. And we had other higher priorities to spend our budget on. And, above all, we really don't like the "look" that copper coat has around the waterline after a few months. I've always wanted a HR and indeed they install the top quality of systems. And to run a 54ft yacht with just 2 people, to remote places, you either have all the systems or you suffer with a kind of camping life. Oana doesn't do camping :) Hope all that answers adequately.
@@SailCloudyBay Great and thanks for the reply. At the brokerage we have been visiting are a charming couple restoring a very old Moody and they're doing a wonderful job, and with all 316 ss fittings which he was keen to show me. Stainless is not self lubricating like bronze when used for valves, but he was sold on it and they certainly come at a cost and looked, well, very nice! I'll study the pictures I've got. Keep the blogs coming, they're fascinating...
Ha ha ha ha LOL. :-D In the description there is mention of the 'new anti-fowl'. Is it keeping the birds off the mast head? Perhaps it's doing a better job of keeping them off the keel? :-D English is such a fun language. I'm actually back here looking at your maintenance vid to see your work on the Gori propeller. Great job and very helpful. I've put a 36mm socket on my list. Glen, Oana - would you like to comment on whether you've had a good experience with the Overdrive feature of your propeller? Getting it into overdrive when out on a passage, requiring a bit of reversing in mid ocean, must be a bit annoying, even if only done in calm conditions. Worth it though, if a long stint of motoring is on the cards. Lower revs and better fuel consumption. Thoughts? Some builders these days are only offering a Gori 3 Blade Single-Pitch folding propeller - no overdrive - though it does flip just like the Overdrive version. It's all to do with ensuring the engine isn't over-stressed, to avoid warranty issues. Volvo insists! Regards, Rick.
eric sandi reality is that a boat is a lot of work. The sea is a harsh environment for anything man-made. If you don’t like the maintenance or can’t afford someone else to do it then best to stay away from ownership. In my opinion, unless you plan to use a yacht extensively or live aboard it’s much more cost effective to just charter a boat occasionally.
about the same time period a Deer swam into Shipwrights marina and a few of their employees at the time jumped into a Skiff in a effort to get the deer into the boat as they knew it was very tired and they were afraid it would die the good news was the deer did safely get onto land and was chased into some woods I kept my boat in town Point Marina for a number of years and i used to cruise thru Herrington North with freinds and to get a bite at the restaraunt there we also often fueled up at their fuel dock as they honored the Seniors discount ive also over the years had looked at several boats for sale docked at North offered by Wilson yachts whom i did some business with over the years btw the camera angle of the dinghy being lowered was weird as at first i didnt see or know there was a forklift there and it looked like it was hovering on air for a moment i feel your pain on the bottom paint dilemma owning a boat isn’t cheap ive had 16 or 17 of all sizes and types I reckonize your boat from being in the same area for 20 plus years nice design on the Cutlas bearing puller
Just found your channel, and love watching the maintenance you do on your big beautiful yacht . Was wondering what your background was to be able to do all those maintenance jobs.
Richard Gallant I was previously an engineer in the oil and Gas service industry. A lot of similarities maintaining offshore drilling equipment and yachts.
I guess the reason why you could not find that small valve for the stern gland is because it’s a gas fitting not designed for water What you have replaced it with is much better good job guys.
gary, that’s interesting. Makes me glad I made the timely change. We have several other places where there used those small gas valves, but thankfully not in critical places that could sink the boat if they failed. I have a lot of them on fuel lines and several on drain lines for the fresh water system. Thanks for the input.
Hi! Great video, thanks! Super yacht! A wonderful team ) did everything carefully and efficiently! Just do not understand why the bottom of the boat was covered with neobratimo?))
You may want to clear coat the propellers with the same stuff they use on cars? Then when you hall it out they're clean. And then redo them as well when you do bottom paint?
I assume you mean a silicon coating? Unfortunately I don't think what you put on cars would last even a week in seawater. The Prop-Speed that we applied in this video however is a silicon coating with the right strength and properties to counter the harsh marine environment. We now have this on the prop for 18 months and still nothing (much) sticks to it. but its frinkin' expensive stuff!
That looks like a Gori folding prop, if it is we have the same one our Jeanneau SO 45.1. How often do you use it in overdrive mode? In overdrive at 1,400rpm we get pushed along at 7 knots, on average, with our Yanmar 4JH2TE diesel 59hp (44Kw). Do you think that 1,400 RPM is too low and not putting enough load on the engine? Thanks, Baz.
Hello, Glen, I have a question. Do you order all spare parts well in advance to the port where you plan your refit or will everything only be ordered when you are there? What do you do if you find a broken part during the work and a spare part has a delivery time of 4 weeks or even more? I imagine it is difficult to have all necessary parts, tools and service providers (polishing, anti fouling, etc.) on site in time...
DrSchweitzer good question. I do order parts ahead of time that I either need during the next maintenance session or to replenish supplies. Then when we arrive - they are all their waiting. Because it’s rare that we have a reliable address to send them to. That said, there are always a few items that we only learn we need as we are doing maintenance. An example was a special socket to remove the propeller. But in US delivery time is just a few days for most things. Delivery time and complexity will be very difference once we leave for the Pacific! Bottom line is that we constantly write lists and try to keep ahead of the game!
Thanks for the nice comment John. Yes we were actually surprised just how popular this video was. The next one also has quite a bit of maintenance. And now, here we are in the yard again in Antigua ..... stripping and finishing the hull, that we didnt manage to do in USA due to a) cost, b) plummeting temperature! Now that we are ravaged by mosquitos and sweat ... we ponder which environment is actually better!
@@SailCloudyBay wow I gott aget caught up ! last I saw you were in Bermuda ... sure the bottom paint like the heat in Antigua keep the bug screens on !Thanks and keep on sailin!
I have just found your channel and this is the first of your videos that I have watched and I thoroughly enjoyed it. You both achieved an impressive amount of completed work in a relatively short space of time. As a Marine Engineer of 40 years+ (but now retired), I was very impressed with your attention to detail, your consistently high standards and your ever present OCD.😉 Just a quick comment about the de-zincified brass fittings, I take it these are on systems that were not part of the original HR build? I know from the other comments you are well aware that brass fittings should never be used on salt water systems and their failure could be catastrophic to the vessel. Curious as to why you carrying a bottle of refrigerant - have you had a history of loss of refrigerant? I will try and catch up with the rest of your output.👍
Thanks for the nice comment. Actually, all the thru-hull fittings on HR are of brass. They say its "marine grade" and they have never had issues. Well, I don't like that and I intend to change the affected ones to bronze. As for the refrigerant bottle. Yes .... lots of fridge issues. With the bottle and equipment I can at least refill to keep us going till I find a proper fridge engineer .... which are are once away from civilization!
Wow. You have a lot of motivation to wake up every morning and work all day for 14 days straight on your boat. You must be real tired at the end of this.
I noticed when Cloudy Bay was in the travel lift getting ready to "make a splash"..that her bow thruster protective "grills" had not been fastened on yet..did you catch this before putting her back in ..just curious, also do those straight little bars provide enough protection for the bowthrusters in your experience..or have you considered anything else that's on the market to prevent against plastic bags, garbage etc or crap getting sucked in to the bow thruster tunnel..
Michael Douglas for sure the bars were in place when we splashed. Must just be an illusion in video. Not really sure how effective they are. Certainly we’ve had the occasional rope get in there, but no plastic bags. I haven’t investigated other protections. In fact most other boats the tunnel is totally open and I’ve wondered if I should do the same on Cloudy. But for now, the bars remain. I think the primary use is to ensure no body parts can get in there ... not that anyone would ever use the thruster with anyone in the water near it.
Glad you enjoyed it. It took Oana a while to put the 350 clips together! I would say the play on the Cutlass bearing was about 1-2mm (1/16-1/8th inch). I had been noticing that we had more vibration than usual recently so was not surprised to find that much play. In the clean water before USA we had no issue, but there is quite a bit of silt on the east coast US, so I guess erosion greater.
Actually, I would have liked the episode to have been cut into two separate episodes of about 30 mins each. But that's just my opinion. For some of us who follow alot of sailing channels, a 1 hour episode of one channel eats into time for other channels.,
One question: Why are you watching other sailing channels other than ours? ... :) We did consider splitting into 2 but then 2 videos of the same subject wouldn't make sense. Maybe you can watch 30 mins then watch the rest another time?
I have to admit, I fast forwarded parts of this refurbishment. Perhaps I missed something, or did you really put her back in the water without painting the hull?
Robert, you saw correctly but must have missed the story. When we took the boat out we found the antifoul had reacted with fresh water and was cracking off. It all needed to be removed. The only option in USA was a soda blast but the local company gave a price that reflected their monopoly. So we launched it as it was, and later had the bottom paint chemically removed in Antigua at a fraction of the soda-blast price.
Gardureth, no, not really necessary. But we do get marine growth on it if left unpainted. That shineyq brass look only lasts maybe a day in the water before it’s all dull. As I can dive in the boat and clean the prop regularly, I’ve never painted it before. But then I managed to acquire some of this very expensive PropSpeed at budget cost, so thought I’d try it out. So far, 6 weeks in the water, nothing has stuck to it yet ... fingers crossed it stays that way.
I’m curious what the make and model of communicator you’re using when you go up the mast. Are they full duplex and wireless? I mean do you connect these to a separate radio on your belt or is the radio built into the headset? How the reception? Great idea for when up the mast? I’m sure you use when anchoring and the motor is running. Great vlog! Fair winds.
They are SENA blue tooth hands free headphones, full duplex. I think mostly used for comms on a motorbike between driver and passenger. Reception is very good, even 80ft up the mast. We always use them on mast jobs where communication between the 2 of us is critical (I dont like getting winched through the eye of our spinnaker block by the very powerful electric genoa winch!). We had planned to used them for anchoring too. But we do sign language for that one. They are a key piece of equipment for us.
Joe wong it’s a 26” 3-blade Gori propeller. I don’t know the pitch, but is has option of 2 different pitches and you can change from one to the other. Like an over-drive on a car: in calm conditions it allows you to do same speed with less RPM. I love this prop. Brilliant design by the Gori team
Thanks for the nice comments. The 42cc is a nice size boat and with the center cockpit, a safe feeling. I've never sailed a boat that size by myself. It could be said that sailing with Oana I am infact sailing solo, but there are lots of times when we do need both of us to make moves and sail adjustments. And coming into marinas and docking would be very challenging solo. But like everything, you can get good at it with practice. What you have to consider is that the bigger the boat the bigger the stress and load on everything. For instance, could you take down a sail by yourself if you had to? On Cloudy Bay, taking down either main or genoa is a huge job even for 2 of us. Imagine having to do that at sea. So, if I was to sail solo, I think I would only take a 36-38ft boat maximum. Bigger boats can be sailed solo for sure .... but you've go to think of the "what if.." scenarios. Because they will surely happen, one day.
I think that living and sailing full time in a sailboat of 36 is too small for me as I sail a lot between the ocean and the Mediterranean in more I live by boat. the Cc is fantastic and reduces a lot of maneuvers, obviously a help can be comfortable but like all things just adapt and the habit and experience will do the rest. I agree that the bigger the boat maintenance is needed but more than the size to give problems are the unnecessary accessories and options that we add to "make the life on board more comfortable" in reality is exactly the opposite between maintenance and spare parts as I am not worth it, I prefer to give up. have you ever sailed to South Africa to Asia?
Great video lots of TLC there . I would be very interested in knowing what the gelco job cost you? Was great seeing you doing all the work yourself Fair winds from the @captains.chair
Jim, $2k! That’s 1k per small hole! Pretty silly money really, but that is the market price on east coast US it seems. They did a perfect job without going into the blue strip, and insurance agreed and paid OK.
I have a thing against dirty bilges which quickly become smelly bilges. On a weekend boat I guess I could live with it, but livaboard we do t want smells. It also helps to have OCD!
Good suggestion. Thanks. But it would not be practical to have the quantity of propane needed, on board a liveaboard yacht. Its bad enough having to source propane re-fills for just cooking purposes. There is no tank or fitting standard that covers multiple countries. On the other hand, a diesel-fired water heater could make sense.
Hi Jeff, Correct. But there was good reason for that. When we took the boat out (and as mentioned in the video) some of the antifoul paint had reacted with the Chesapeake fresh water and started to peel off, several layer down. So we needed to remove ALL the antifoul and start again. THere was only one choice to do that, and that was a soda blast. But the only company in the yard allowed to do that wanted about 3x the usual cost (monopoly). So we decided to have the boat hauled in Antigua and have it done there for a fraction of the USA cost. We show this being down a couple of videos later.
Dumb question - do you just instinctively know what needs servicing (apart from the obvious replacement of faulty parts) or is there a schedule called out in a detailed maintenance manual that came with the boat?
Hello! I have seen this special video and i want to ask about the primer for the gori propeller. wich manufacture you use for this part of work ? thanks for answer.... Manfred/Europa/Austria
@@SailCloudyBay Thank for response.. I also have an gori propeller with 3 blades, was very interested and excited about the great hob you have done. So i think i would use the same one for the prop. Your videos are very special and professional !! Its always nice to look at this video.
Good question Erik. We decided to leave the re-antifouling till we get to Antigua (where we are doing it right now). We have set the boat on blocks in a slightly different position here, so that we can now get to those spots. If we had to do it in the yard at Herrington there would be 2 choices 1) lift the boat again and re position the blocks or 2) do it when the boat is back in the slings just before launch. The first option would add cost and the 2nd option you don't have much time because once in the slings they usually want to launch you pretty quickly. Its usually enough time to quickly paint a coat of antifoul, but not to do serious work.
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Again, Glenn
I am in awe the way you tackle this projects.
You really need to know everything if you own a sailboat.
electronics scares the crap out of me.
The sailing videos are nice but I do like the maintenance and refit videos too. You have a lot of love for your vessel and it shows.
Thanks Gerald. There are several other videos on maintenance. All in our Maintenance playlist on our TH-cam home page (Sail Cloudy Bay). And I'm just now back at the boat doing more maintenance, so more video in the next month or so.
Skipper has amazing boat maintenance skills and well supported by “first mate”! A great instructional video.
Thanks Howard. Glad you enjoyed it.
Out of all the sailing channels on TH-cam, Cloudy Bay is my favorite! Such a beauty!
Thanks, thats quite the compliment Aaron
Never mind the sailing, your maintenance is the meaning of life ... frustration, patience, application, reversal, eventual success
Michael, thanks. Will certainly take that as a compliment :)
Great video. Such joy to watch people who love and care for their boat!
Thanks Ole ...
I enjoy the OCD attitude toward your boat and the importance of keeping on top of the the details before they become an issue wwhile at sea.... You folks have the cleanest boat on TH-cam.... :-)
Thanks. Well I guess thats why I'm a bit OCD ... fear of things breaking just when you dont want them to!
Your maintenance videos are a virtual goldmine. Thank you guys!
Glad you like them!
I know this video is old, but amazing job on maintenance. Really turned out beautifully.
Your mechanical knowledge and skills are truly impressive and very rare these days...
Thanks Thomas. I used to work for a company providing technical services in oil & gas drilling and exploration. In my early years "in the field" (on rigs) I was an engineer and had to deal with lots of systems, hands on and often in a panic. I then went into management for the next 20 years (where I met Oana). But coming onto Cloudy Bay is like going back to those field days where I have to wear all hats, mechanical, electrical, electronics, hydraulics and pneumatic .... and also chemical with the water maker! I LOVE this part of sailing - having everything working perfectly. And on a yacht like Cloudy, the multiple systems do all need to work if you want to sail short handed. I do find it hard to imagine how other owners, who are not practically minded, manage with long distance cruising. Well, I kind of know .... they spend alot of time in each port looking for someone to fix their gear. Someone who likely does not know the boat and with unknown skill. And for me, there is only one way to know how something works is when it fails and you are forced to fix it!
@@SailCloudyBay That's the right attitude. It seems to me that those that are most successful with their livaboard and/or ciricum navigation life style are those that know their boat and equipment and how to maintain it to avoid problems and how to fix things them self when there are a problem. Because nothing is free from problems all the time. Then it is a good thing to be prepared.
And once through the Panama, the only person that will be available to fix anything is me! .... until we get to New Zealand. I had a mission to know the boat inside out before that time. Even after 2 years, there is still alot to learn.
Hi Glen,@@SailCloudyBay Did you gain all of your mechanical skills @ SLB working out on the rigs or growing up, were you and maybe your Dad motor heads? I went through the same "hands on" with my involvement with owning my own transportation company in the coal fields. On those hydraulic fittings, I take it the new $1k couplers you installed now have stainless or synthetic ball bearings of some sort in them. Out on the North Sea on the rigs I would suspect this would have showed up on their fittings as well with the constant salt air/water exposure. Good thing you noticed the tell tale rust streaks. Can they be covered somehow like the terminal end shroud fittings are? CB has massive coverings on her fittings, not like those boats you see with just some sort of tape wrap. Have a great run down to Antigua - English Harbour I assume.
Just arrived to Jolly Harbour yesterday. We will be hauled out to finish the hull. I did indeed get my mechanical and practical aptitude from growing up with a similar Dad and elder brothers. Dad always had to have a go at fixing things himself, most of the time successfully, even if a bit mickymouse (improvised). Without this aptitude, I doubt Schlumberger would have hired me. We had pretty tough practical tests on hiring. These days, due to the complexity of the technologies, the engineers are hired more for their computer skills. If something breaks they just send it back to town and use a back up, or a land based technician fixes it remotely over the internet. In my day we had to get the solder iron out and work out what the hell was happening, while the whole rig waited on us. No pressure!
Interesting. I had not thought about what hydraulic fittings we had offshore on the rigs. I think they were a mixture of stainless and alloy. That said, we did have alot of corrosion issues, which were always prevented by copious quantities of grease. Grease on a yacht is a bit of a no-no, grease on a rig is on everything you touch is seemed. Especially the food!
What an episode....fantastic. Cloudy Bay looks showroom condition and more, which is all down to your hard work and effort. Every small detail has been checked repaired if need be, polished, painted, scrapped, primed, etc your attention for detail is a lesson to us all. Thank you so much for showing us this work. May the winds bless you with great sailing.⛵️
Loved how happy you both are together and how confidently you dealt with each repair while providing interesting comments along the way.
I found myself identifying with you and feeling very much part of the process of getting the yacht ready for your continuing voyage.
I consider your channel to be quite a discovery and look forward to catching up to the present day.
Chris Thorpe that was a very nice comment. Thanks.
The setting sun at 1:03.56 and the almost legendary green flash. Beautiful!
That’s a beautiful boat. I really enjoyed watching this.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much for recording all the maintenance detail you presented. It shows how much time is needed to keep a sail boat in ship-shape. I’m just begining my adventure. So I deeply appreciate your vBlog, particularly this detail. It may have been a bit tedious for Oana to record these details, but they were immensely valuable for me to see! Thank you!!!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
To me too.
Perry, thanks for the really nice comment. Yes, it did take Oana time to shoot and even more to edit. I think there were over 300 video clips to edit into that one. We were a bit worried no one would watch such a long one all on maintenance. But we were clearly wrong. And yes, to keep the boat in top shape it does need alot of these kind of activities. When you think we are living on board 24/7 using all the systems and sailing hard through a hostile salty environment, its not surprising.
Sorry for late reply ... we were busy sailing!
@@SailCloudyBay Hey, just want to chime in and say that videos on maintenance, upgrades, haulouts etc. are really appreciated. I find them the most interesting!
You did a really nice job of making kind of a boring topic in to a spellbinding video. Bravo.
Excellent maintenance skills AND excellent videography skills. The mellow style you both have is so.... well... mello.
Congratulations.
Very Nice in so many ways.! Thank you both very much for caring and sharing..!
Thank you too!
Spectacular video and thank you so much for staying with us. We are very happy that you enjoyed your stay and found the onsite contractors and grounds to be helpful and convenient.
Glad you enjoyed the video. We primarily came to HHN by recommendation of Roger and Liz in Free State yachts. And we almost didn't get in depth wise! But we have to say that we would recommend the yard to anyone. Your staff and the way you interacted with the customer is both pleasant and professional. The onsite contractors, whilst not the cheapest, were excellent too. That said, we have generally found all marine services in USA rather expensive vs Europe, so HHN does not stand out particularly in that regard. Thanks for a very nice stay in very pleasant and well kept surroundings.
It's funny seeing you guys in my home port! If your sill around I'll look you up next time I there checking on my boats.
Sorry but we moved on a bit ... now in Antigua :). It was a very nice yard a Herrington North.
That was a a lot of fun to watch and I've watched several of your posts as they come out and if you can keep this type of theme going, with maintenance , on board situations that occur, and of course navigation advise and instruction for us we will all enjoy the posting even more, great stuff..
Thanks James. It was alot of maintenance to record in just one episode, but had to be done. Thanks for the great feedback. We will continue to endeavor to make the videos interesting, covering all aspects that we go through while cruising. The full details of what we get up to and challenges are all in our blog on sailcloudybay.com.
@@SailCloudyBay Sorry that I missed your visit to Bermuda, my Island home. I didn't think you would try the crossing while all those lows were passing by, it was bloody terrible weather, and your online AIS location disappeared once you left USA,, argh,, great footage of the island none the less and you certainly did a lot of travelling around despite the cold and wet weather, perhaps on your next visit, in the summer ;-)we can add some footage of Island hospitality with a bbq at my home; during the winter we locals tend to 'disappear' indoors or at the pub, not to reappear till April. Fair winds, and my best to you both.
Biggest yacht in the yard! I guess if you work hard you can play hard. Credit to you both. :-)
Yep ... always lived by work hard play hard rule :)
Wow. When you guys came in I saw my boat! Bought her from Harrington Harbor where she sat almost completely abandoned. Now she is sailing in Annapolis happy as can be!
Great episode! Cutting it close... Fall sailing can be a little challenging! Thanks for sharing. Fair winds!
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Its OK .. we are in Antigua now. Summer is back!
Aww shucks. Glad I got to meet you all.
Happy sailing.
Hi Ray you seem like a really nice person . Hope we will be in some day for your services
Good people 👍👍
you guys do great job , im from baltimore , welcome ,
Thanks for watching!
Great video and the Mrs. has become a great videographer!
Thanks Steven. Oana is very much appreciating your comment. She is now working really hard at this and I agree the results are getting better and better.
@@SailCloudyBay I especially appreciated Oana's narration throughout this episode. Very nicely done.
That was a great episode. Thank you for all the maintenance details shared
That were some serious yard works! Quite the list 😀 Great elaborate video much to see and learn 😇 From Flintstone tactics to umbrella workshops and taking apart the propellor 👍👍 Needed more than one portion of popcorn here 😂 Ready for the sun, rest from the hard work and some great sailing: enjoy and thank you!
Love the comment! Thanks. Please restock popcorn. More on the way :)
Sail Cloudy Bay 😀👍🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
I've been following you on your adventures, very impressed. Also very impressed at your engineering prowess, makes me feel like I.m a slacker when it comes to maintenance. Can't wait to get aboard again.
Thanks for the nice comment Ed. When living aboard there is high motivation to get out of the yard ASAP ... whereas if the boat is there all winter there isnt quite the same drive to get things done. I've been there too.
Enjoyed the vid! If you continue to experience the bow thruster motor spitting black goo, check the commutator bars for wear, and check the motor bearings for runout.
I loved every minute of ths episode! thanks!!
Thanks Ron. We actually thought people might find this boring. But apparently not. Very glad you enjoyed it. Next time I'll get you to come and help :)
That is a very good idea! I would love to!
I'm still shaking from raw nerves from watching that harrowing trip from Bermuda to Antigua. Wow, the boat halfway sideways and the captain, seemingly, unaware of the danger of slipping overboard.
And no life jackets! Help!
If one of you has been washed overboard on that treacherous trip, I see no way you would have survived.
Good luck daredevil. ;)
PFD or not, fact is my wife can not handle the boat and would never get back to me. I’m basically a single hander. Single handers rarely wear safety gear. They rather just make damned sure they don’t fall off. That’s me.
I saw this video more and more times. It's fantastic the way you do everything on your boat. In these sad and viral days I point out a series of videos of people who are completely renovating an old HR 312, with truly exemplary capacity and care. They explane step by step the work. If you want, take a look: they are from Treviso (North Italy, near Venice), but in the movies they speak (with a marked and nice Italian accent) English. I have appreciated them very much and I point them out to you. I belive you will enjoy it. Cheers
thanks Bruno. Will take a look
Superb video. A very informative list of maintenance items. Love it!!! Thanks to both.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video, just Subscribed. Now time to go back to the beginning and bin watch..
Glad you enjoyed it. That’s quite a lot of binge viewing to do. Get the popcorn in!
Love your videos, they’re edited perfectly, especially the sailing experience. I really do feel as though I am sharing the adventure with you. I am less envious, when I see the drudgery of boat maintenance, I have been there. Keep the videos coming, and continue your life of untrammeled bliss, with your little “Honey Bunny”. Many people live vicariously through you... However, I would like to see a cross word between the two of you, once in a while, just to keep it real. Or is it really that perfect!
Great comment, thanks. Yes we do have the odd cross word, but its rare that we have the camera either at hand or running when we do! And as you know, we couldnt fake getting upset with each other just for the camera. That said, our disagreements are very rare considering me and Bunny :) are continuously together 24/7 in a small space.
Hallberg Rassy sure has a sweet engine compartment
Thanks. Yes it certainly does. A big selling feature for us. Unlike, sad to say, the newer HR designs.
If you have the time and will It would be nice if you make a video (or an article on your blog) about all the tools (powered and not) that you bought for the boat over the years
Hmmm that would be a looooong list!
Hi Glen and Juana from Space City and the Oil Capital of the World, Houston, Texas. I am a recent convert to the Cloudy Bay channel and crew. I love y'all. Folks I'd love to crack crab with. Glen, you are a model for all men in the way you love your wife and care for your boat and Juana, your forever smile and joy is wonderful. Fair winds - God bless you and keep you, Jack :-)
Jack, what a truly wonderful comment. One of our favorites for sure. I used to live in Houston, over in Sugar Land, in my former working life! Maybe we will crack crab with you someday. All the best to you.
Hi Glen and Oana (note the correct spelling this time - I think) thank you so much for the sweet and thoughtful reply. How amazing that you spent some time here in the Houston area. Had to be either tech or energy, I'm guessing. I grew up a mile from NASA (Mission Control) and in very close proximity to one of the largest boating communities in the world. With that said, I wanted to offer myself as a resource any time along the way - if I can ever pick up a part or ship anything to y'all along the way, please consider me your friend and resource and I'd love to do so as a family member would. Glen, I saw that you had notes of where your spare flagpole was stored and I've seen you are a keeper of data, so add me to your spreadsheet of long distance resources. :-) Happy to help a brother (and a sister) any time along the way. God's blessings, Jack and Denise from deep in the heart of Texas - Yeehah!!
I have a high respect and admiration for the work you completed yourself........Your background surely comes in handy...You keep Cloudy Bay immaculate.....Where the hell do you keep all your tools and parts...lol....It was a shame you could not work out the prep/painting of the bottom so everything was 100% complete......With that said, you will get better paint material down south which is unavailable in the states......The guys did a nice job of the patch and match of the teak rail that was damaged.....You never did tell us the outcome of the insurance of liability/settlement from the accident....Safe travels...
Thanks. Well, we do certainly have a lot of tools and parts in various lockers. This boat is like a cavern for stowage below and in deck and cockpit lockers. And all very accessible. It was one of the key selling points for us. I never did hear back from the person that hit us with his insurance details, which he promised (and he is an OCC member too!). So if you see North Star around, feel free to ram him from me please! But my insurance repaid me the cost of all the repairs - Pantaenius - they are fantastic in customer support. Apparently they will now chase the guy that rammed us.
you sir are a very fine repairman. i admire your skills from experience I GUESS. tHANKS FOR A VERY ENTERTAINING VIDIO!
Thank you kindly
You truly are good.
I’m a big believer of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
If I do what your doing I’ll probably end up spent my time working on my sailboat vs sailing.
Well, me too actually. I also don't like to mess with anything that is behaving itself. And frankly there is always a long list of misbehaving items that precludes anything else. But, while out the water there are some jobs that you have to do. Cant service the prop for instance when in the water. And it was not always feathering properly, recently, so was ready for a service. The other aspect is that, while its not classed as "messing with things that are working OK", I do constantly keep a lookout for tell-tail signs of problems. Like the hydraulic fittings. I'd noticed some minor rust marks coming out of them ... which shouldn't be, because they are supposedly stainless steel. But when I took them apart i found the ball bearings that lock the fitting into place are made of steel an were completely seized. I got them off just in time. Another few months and they would not have budged. And to replace those fittings is $1000 each! Its true that I do alot of maintenance, but then we are living aboard and using the systems 24/7. Previously, when only weekend sailing I never seemed to have so many issues. But then the usage was significantly less plus I had a whole winter to dabble and fix things.
Sail Cloudy Bay Why are you still using a propeller, we have a 34 meter catamaran and have switched to jet drives. This has eliminated all of the problems that come with props.
Douglas, I’ve never seen a sailing yacht converted to water jet propulsion. On large super yachts yes, but on an average sized family sailboat?
@@SailCloudyBay And what do you call an average size family boat, ours is just over 120' long powered by twin Cummins Diesels
Douglas, you must have a big family :). I would say an average family sail boat is 1/3 the length of yours and certainly only one engine. Clearly your must be a motor boat, not sailing?
Very nice video, thank you for sharing this amazing job!!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Another guite a great video! Very informative and interesting. Gives guite a qlue what maintenance is about. ♥️
New subscriber enjoy the detail in all the work done to keep the boat in shape tyvm
Kevin, thanks. I do enjoy that part of sailing as much as the sailing itself.
I’m not a sailor or engineer but so enjoyed your video, thanks for an insight into your world xx from the uk xx
Thanks Annette. Just wondering, if you are not a sailor nor particularly engineer orientated, what drew you to our videos? Just trying to understand our audience and the different aspects of our videos that draws people to view them.
Hi, I watch quite a few sailing channels and am drawn to them so much, I cannot understand it myself. However I have always been drawn to the sea and living on an island and being surrounded by water I always prefer to be by the sea or ocean even though we live in the countryside and are surrounded by the Yorkshire and Derbyshire Dales this is my preference. Don’t know that I believe in past life I’ve often thought that maybe that is the reason, wired, I know! Annette from the UK xx
I bet she was just bouyed.
Interesting. Well, Ellen MacArthur was bought up in the dales, and look what a sailor she became! Now there is a "wired" person if ever I saw one. Absolutely incredible what she did.
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Ребята, вы все делаете очень аккуратно . Красавцы.
That propeller was satisfying to watch!
You can strip the bottom with a sandblasted. Substitute sand for crushed Walnut shells, it works great without causing and damage.
John Turner yes we wanted to Soda blast with the company in the yard. But they were too expensive and the yard owner would not let any other company in. So we went to Antigua to have it done at 1/4 price.
@@SailCloudyBay huge price difference
Glad you're based in MD. I'm from Havre de Grace. A great sailing area. In future, could you add more subtitles so we know what you're working on.
Hallberg Rassy is a classic boat.
Thanks for your help in making me decide Not to buy a yacht,looks like non stop maintenance and need of your own ATM machine
bryan fowler owning a house and a car is not much different. This video shows maintenance after 18. Months cruising since leaving Greece.
bryan fowler truth is, if you can’t afford to have someone maintain your boat (@$100 per hour in USA!!) and you dont like the maintenance part of owning a boat, then yes you are right. DONT buy one!
you are pretty handy glen ... what did you do in yore former life ??? it is amazing to see how skilled people are .. good job , looks professional
HALE BURNSIDE MD I was an engineer in the oil and gas business. It I was always pretty dept with my hands as a kid. An upbringing with older brothers and no-TV-allowed helped.
@@SailCloudyBay THE NO TV IS a major plus . my grand father was a professional carpenter , and could make anything .. my dad and i picked up some of that , but it would be nice to be as talented as he was . it shows as your mechanical skill are quite good
great team, interesting to watch you, greetings from Russia.
Hi there - What an absolutely gorgeous boat. Congrats! I've enjoyed the video and thanks so much for the segment showing servicing of the Gori folding prop. I've recently installed a similar 3-blade Gori (albeit, a somewhat smaller 16.5") I also saved your video to my favorites as it should be a great resource to help with my end-of-season to-do list :). (There are surprisingly few videos showing maintenance for the Gori on YT!) As you've obviously some experience with the Gori design, I've noticed when initially setting off in forward gear (standard not overdrive), I can get some prop vibration, that will only increase and become more violent as the engine revs increase if not addressed. Fortunately this doesn't occur all the time, but seems to be more prone to happening if throttling up too quickly or if a strong headwind or opposing tide restricting forward momentum of the boat. Throttling down and returning back to neutral for a few seconds, before setting off again in forward seems to work most of the time, however only if the boat has some way. I was thinking this might be a cavitation issue, but not 100% sure (I've only been using the prop for a couple of weeks now). I found this technique to be less effective if starting off against a stronger tide or headwind since it it's that much more difficult to first get the boat moving with any forward momentum. Wondering if you may have also experienced any similar issues and whether you may have an idea about the potential cause? Unfortunately, the dealer hasn't been all that helpful so far. Any tips or tricks you have found would be appreciated! Cheers - Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
LittleGuitarConcert I can only think that it’s an unbalanced propeller or you have wear in your cutlass bearing. I doubt it’s cavitation, the RPM on these props is too slow.
@@SailCloudyBay Thank you so much - The cutlass bearing is fairly new and in near new condition prior to launch. Possibly the shaft is slightly out of alignment? - I will check, although no issues with prior fixed prop. I can't think of anything else that might affect prop balance. Still too new to be fouled with barnacles. I was hoping it might have been some sort of idiosyncrasy with the Gori !
wow, ive sailed on the chesapeake bay most of my life, Still seemed to find the shaws, My old 36 Catalina drew 6 foot. you did a good job. charts and depth finder,lol,
Yes .... Chesapeake was a bit of a shallow cruising ground for us!
Well done capt and first mate looking at you two doing all that work I'm tired because i know the work that is involve ,Keep bringing us all that footage enjoyed it
Absolutely superb blog, fascinating and informative. Your knowledge is unsurpassed amongst the bloggers we've been watching... and Cloudybay is a superb boat. Lots of questions, please excuse my ignorance as we are very new to this... First, white grease on the gooseneck? Stainless to stainless is, well, ouch I would have thought, Corrosion on the aluminium mast/boom doesn't seem to be a problem on the Rassy, many boats we've looked as have had serious problems. Re-tapping the boom - was it an option to plate the other side to form a clamp? Through hull fittings and dezinctification - these can be obtained in 316 stainless but I gather there are pros and cons for both. Hoses; in the car and bike world we use silicone based hoses for strength, flex, heat resistance and general durability, I've not seen them on boats? Epoxy, anti-foul and so on, we are looking to copper coat, was that ever a consideration? The big cruisers are very complex and the Rassy seems to be one of the better ones for maintenance and servicing, was this a consideration at purchase? Love that keel, their reputation for strong build is well justified! Our biggest worry would always be grounding, you have nerves of steel going down that channel!
Fantastic, and as commented elsewhere, superbly produced videos. Our limited knowledge is reflected in the questions above, but we have the same bug and boundless enthusiasm that the pair of you have. Well, done.
Bob, Thanks and Congratulations .... likely our longest comment ever! But we are in a rush to leave Bermuda this morning, so I will reply in about a week when we arrive to Antigua.
OK, we arrived to Antigua. Thanks for your enthusiasm. Very glad you liked the video and your questions are all very good ones.
I'm guessing the "white grease" you see on the gooseneck is actually the film of plastic that Selden place wherever there is stainless steel touching the aluminium . Hence no corrosion there.
Re-tapping the boom. Backing plate was not an option. Wish it was. directly above the slider is the electrical conduit along the bottom of the boom.
The answer to the dezincification is to use Bronze (low zinc) and not Brass. I have never heard of anyone placing stainless steel through hull fittings below the water line. Not sure why, but must be a good reason
Re hoses. Funnily enough a few days later I did find a automobile hose that was perfect for the job!
Coppercoat has indeed got a reasonably good reputation. But when we bought the boat 3 years ago it was already freshly anti fouled. And to put copper coat on would requite complete strip off of all the standard anti foul then application. Huge cost. And we had other higher priorities to spend our budget on. And, above all, we really don't like the "look" that copper coat has around the waterline after a few months.
I've always wanted a HR and indeed they install the top quality of systems. And to run a 54ft yacht with just 2 people, to remote places, you either have all the systems or you suffer with a kind of camping life. Oana doesn't do camping :)
Hope all that answers adequately.
@@SailCloudyBay Great and thanks for the reply. At the brokerage we have been visiting are a charming couple restoring a very old Moody and they're doing a wonderful job, and with all 316 ss fittings which he was keen to show me. Stainless is not self lubricating like bronze when used for valves, but he was sold on it and they certainly come at a cost and looked, well, very nice! I'll study the pictures I've got. Keep the blogs coming, they're fascinating...
Ha ha ha ha LOL. :-D In the description there is mention of the 'new anti-fowl'. Is it keeping the birds off the mast head? Perhaps it's doing a better job of keeping them off the keel? :-D English is such a fun language.
I'm actually back here looking at your maintenance vid to see your work on the Gori propeller. Great job and very helpful. I've put a 36mm socket on my list. Glen, Oana - would you like to comment on whether you've had a good experience with the Overdrive feature of your propeller? Getting it into overdrive when out on a passage, requiring a bit of reversing in mid ocean, must be a bit annoying, even if only done in calm conditions. Worth it though, if a long stint of motoring is on the cards. Lower revs and better fuel consumption. Thoughts? Some builders these days are only offering a Gori 3 Blade Single-Pitch folding propeller - no overdrive - though it does flip just like the Overdrive version. It's all to do with ensuring the engine isn't over-stressed, to avoid warranty issues. Volvo insists! Regards, Rick.
Outstanding Boat!! Nice
I was thinking for buying a boat and seeing all this work I change my minde.
eric sandi reality is that a boat is a lot of work. The sea is a harsh environment for anything man-made. If you don’t like the maintenance or can’t afford someone else to do it then best to stay away from ownership. In my opinion, unless you plan to use a yacht extensively or live aboard it’s much more cost effective to just charter a boat occasionally.
about the same time period a Deer swam into Shipwrights marina and a few of their employees at the time jumped into a Skiff in a effort to get the deer into the boat as they knew it was very tired and they were afraid it would die the good news was the deer did safely get onto land and was chased into some woods I kept my boat in town Point Marina for a number of years and i used to cruise thru Herrington North with freinds and to get a bite at the restaraunt there we also often fueled up at their fuel dock as they honored the Seniors discount ive also over the years had looked at several boats for sale docked at North offered by Wilson yachts whom i did some business with over the years btw the camera angle of the dinghy being lowered was weird as at first i didnt see or know there was a forklift there and it looked like it was hovering on air for a moment i feel your pain on the bottom paint dilemma owning a boat isn’t cheap ive had 16 or 17 of all sizes and types I reckonize your boat from being in the same area for 20 plus years nice design on the Cutlas bearing puller
Craig, thanks for the nice comment. We are just back to Herrington now (arrived yesterday).
Just found your channel, and love watching the maintenance you do on your big beautiful yacht . Was wondering what your background was to be able to do all those maintenance jobs.
Richard Gallant I was previously an engineer in the oil and Gas service industry. A lot of similarities maintaining offshore drilling equipment and yachts.
I guess the reason why you could not find that small valve for the stern gland is because it’s a gas fitting not designed for water
What you have replaced it with is much better good job guys.
gary, that’s interesting. Makes me glad I made the timely change. We have several other places where there used those small gas valves, but thankfully not in critical places that could sink the boat if they failed. I have a lot of them on fuel lines and several on drain lines for the fresh water system. Thanks for the input.
Hi! Great video, thanks! Super yacht! A wonderful team ) did everything carefully and efficiently! Just do not understand why the bottom of the boat was covered with neobratimo?))
You may want to clear coat the propellers with the same stuff they use on cars? Then when you hall it out they're clean. And then redo them as well when you do bottom paint?
I assume you mean a silicon coating? Unfortunately I don't think what you put on cars would last even a week in seawater. The Prop-Speed that we applied in this video however is a silicon coating with the right strength and properties to counter the harsh marine environment. We now have this on the prop for 18 months and still nothing (much) sticks to it. but its frinkin' expensive stuff!
That looks like a Gori folding prop, if it is we have the same one our Jeanneau SO 45.1. How often do you use it in overdrive mode? In overdrive at 1,400rpm we get pushed along at 7 knots, on average, with our Yanmar 4JH2TE diesel 59hp (44Kw). Do you think that 1,400 RPM is too low and not putting enough load on the engine? Thanks, Baz.
Sailing A B Sea we are mostly in over drive. Especially when motor sailing. I also run at about 1400 revs.
@@SailCloudyBay that's good to know. Thank you.
mr glenn, if i may ask, what type of work were you involved with? your maintenance skills are very good!
I used to be an engineer on oil and gas rigs ....
Most antifoul is very toxic, I would wear a mask even when scraping. Great job I like your work.
True .... I should do
Hello, Glen, I have a question. Do you order all spare parts well in advance to the port where you plan your refit or will everything only be ordered when you are there? What do you do if you find a broken part during the work and a spare part has a delivery time of 4 weeks or even more? I imagine it is difficult to have all necessary parts, tools and service providers (polishing, anti fouling, etc.) on site in time...
DrSchweitzer good question. I do order parts ahead of time that I either need during the next maintenance session or to replenish supplies. Then when we arrive - they are all their waiting. Because it’s rare that we have a reliable address to send them to. That said, there are always a few items that we only learn we need as we are doing maintenance. An example was a special socket to remove the propeller. But in US delivery time is just a few days for most things. Delivery time and complexity will be very difference once we leave for the Pacific! Bottom line is that we constantly write lists and try to keep ahead of the game!
I enjoyed this as much as any Palm trees and bikinis Totally USEFUL information :) ~! Lov Love LOVE this vessel
Thanks for the nice comment John. Yes we were actually surprised just how popular this video was. The next one also has quite a bit of maintenance. And now, here we are in the yard again in Antigua ..... stripping and finishing the hull, that we didnt manage to do in USA due to a) cost, b) plummeting temperature! Now that we are ravaged by mosquitos and sweat ... we ponder which environment is actually better!
@@SailCloudyBay wow I gott aget caught up ! last I saw you were in Bermuda ... sure the bottom paint like the heat in Antigua keep the bug screens on !Thanks and keep on sailin!
The last time i wrenched on a boat with a hammer i used a 5lb sledge to rotate a 5 inch nut, one face at a time.
I have just found your channel and this is the first of your videos that I have watched and I thoroughly enjoyed it. You both achieved an impressive amount of completed work in a relatively short space of time.
As a Marine Engineer of 40 years+ (but now retired), I was very impressed with your attention to detail, your consistently high standards and your ever present OCD.😉
Just a quick comment about the de-zincified brass fittings, I take it these are on systems that were not part of the original HR build? I know from the other comments you are well aware that brass fittings should never be used on salt water systems and their failure could be catastrophic to the vessel.
Curious as to why you carrying a bottle of refrigerant - have you had a history of loss of refrigerant?
I will try and catch up with the rest of your output.👍
Thanks for the nice comment. Actually, all the thru-hull fittings on HR are of brass. They say its "marine grade" and they have never had issues. Well, I don't like that and I intend to change the affected ones to bronze. As for the refrigerant bottle. Yes .... lots of fridge issues. With the bottle and equipment I can at least refill to keep us going till I find a proper fridge engineer .... which are are once away from civilization!
Wow. You have a lot of motivation to wake up every morning and work all day for 14 days straight on your boat. You must be real tired at the end of this.
Tired and happy. Its a work of love
I noticed when Cloudy Bay was in the travel lift getting ready to "make a splash"..that her bow thruster protective "grills" had not been fastened on yet..did you catch this before putting her back in ..just curious, also do those straight little bars provide enough protection for the bowthrusters in your experience..or have you considered anything else that's on the market to prevent against plastic bags, garbage etc or crap getting sucked in to the bow thruster tunnel..
Michael Douglas for sure the bars were in place when we splashed. Must just be an illusion in video. Not really sure how effective they are. Certainly we’ve had the occasional rope get in there, but no plastic bags. I haven’t investigated other protections. In fact most other boats the tunnel is totally open and I’ve wondered if I should do the same on Cloudy. But for now, the bars remain. I think the primary use is to ensure no body parts can get in there ... not that anyone would ever use the thruster with anyone in the water near it.
Very nice episode, good on details and perfect length. How much play was there in the axle shaft?
Glad you enjoyed it. It took Oana a while to put the 350 clips together! I would say the play on the Cutlass bearing was about 1-2mm (1/16-1/8th inch). I had been noticing that we had more vibration than usual recently so was not surprised to find that much play. In the clean water before USA we had no issue, but there is quite a bit of silt on the east coast US, so I guess erosion greater.
Actually, I would have liked the episode to have been cut into two separate episodes of about 30 mins each. But that's just my opinion. For some of us who follow alot of sailing channels, a 1 hour episode of one channel eats into time for other channels.,
@@CawffeeTyme watch half, stop watching and do whatever, then continue to watch the rest. This isn't linear TV... ☺
One question: Why are you watching other sailing channels other than ours? ... :)
We did consider splitting into 2 but then 2 videos of the same subject wouldn't make sense.
Maybe you can watch 30 mins then watch the rest another time?
Great job all round hope you not like me and enjoy the cleaning and maintenance more than the adventures 😆
I have to admit, I fast forwarded parts of this refurbishment. Perhaps I missed something, or did you really put her back in the water without painting the hull?
Robert, you saw correctly but must have missed the story. When we took the boat out we found the antifoul had reacted with fresh water and was cracking off. It all needed to be removed. The only option in USA was a soda blast but the local company gave a price that reflected their monopoly. So we launched it as it was, and later had the bottom paint chemically removed in Antigua at a fraction of the soda-blast price.
nice work
Good job
Was it needed to paint the screw? Or could it be left untreated, i liked it nice and shiney.
Gardureth, no, not really necessary. But we do get marine growth on it if left unpainted. That shineyq brass look only lasts maybe a day in the water before it’s all dull. As I can dive in the boat and clean the prop regularly, I’ve never painted it before. But then I managed to acquire some of this very expensive PropSpeed at budget cost, so thought I’d try it out. So far, 6 weeks in the water, nothing has stuck to it yet ... fingers crossed it stays that way.
I’m curious what the make and model of communicator you’re using when you go up the mast. Are they full duplex and wireless? I mean do you connect these to a separate radio on your belt or is the radio built into the headset? How the reception? Great idea for when up the mast? I’m sure you use when anchoring and the motor is running. Great vlog! Fair winds.
They are SENA blue tooth hands free headphones, full duplex. I think mostly used for comms on a motorbike between driver and passenger. Reception is very good, even 80ft up the mast. We always use them on mast jobs where communication between the 2 of us is critical (I dont like getting winched through the eye of our spinnaker block by the very powerful electric genoa winch!). We had planned to used them for anchoring too. But we do sign language for that one. They are a key piece of equipment for us.
good work
i wonder how much it cost for the haul out and the gelcoat job and how much he saved doing the other repairs himself
haul out and back in again about $800. Money saved .... well most work is charged at $100 per hour.
@@SailCloudyBay thank you you really changed my ideas on sailing watching you two sail really shows me what it is like
you guys make boat work look so easy.... how long have you been sailing?
Thanks. Well I’ve been sailing and pottering on boats since I was 15. Always loved the maintenance side of the sailing too.
I’d lv to know the make model and pitch of your propeller.
And if you think it’s worthwhile
Joe wong it’s a 26” 3-blade Gori propeller. I don’t know the pitch, but is has option of 2 different pitches and you can change from one to the other. Like an over-drive on a car: in calm conditions it allows you to do same speed with less RPM.
I love this prop. Brilliant design by the Gori team
If you get it to hot for to long and you cool to fast you change the dynamics of metal, it will become somewhat brittle.
Fantastico video e fantastica barca ..io sto per acquistare un Beneteau 42 cc cosa ne pensi? Navigazione in solitaria
Thanks for the nice comments. The 42cc is a nice size boat and with the center cockpit, a safe feeling. I've never sailed a boat that size by myself. It could be said that sailing with Oana I am infact sailing solo, but there are lots of times when we do need both of us to make moves and sail adjustments. And coming into marinas and docking would be very challenging solo. But like everything, you can get good at it with practice.
What you have to consider is that the bigger the boat the bigger the stress and load on everything. For instance, could you take down a sail by yourself if you had to? On Cloudy Bay, taking down either main or genoa is a huge job even for 2 of us. Imagine having to do that at sea. So, if I was to sail solo, I think I would only take a 36-38ft boat maximum. Bigger boats can be sailed solo for sure .... but you've go to think of the "what if.." scenarios. Because they will surely happen, one day.
I think that living and sailing full time in a sailboat of 36 is too small for me as I sail a lot between the ocean and the Mediterranean in more I live by boat. the Cc is fantastic and reduces a lot of maneuvers, obviously a help can be comfortable but like all things just adapt and the habit and experience will do the rest. I agree that the bigger the boat maintenance is needed but more than the size to give problems are the unnecessary accessories and options that we add to "make the life on board more comfortable" in reality is exactly the opposite between maintenance and spare parts as I am not worth it, I prefer to give up. have you ever sailed to South Africa to Asia?
No, we have not sailed to Asia or South Africa yet. But both are on our intended route.
Great video lots of TLC there . I would be very interested in knowing what the gelco job cost you?
Was great seeing you doing all the work yourself
Fair winds from the @captains.chair
Jim, $2k! That’s 1k per small hole! Pretty silly money really, but that is the market price on east coast US it seems. They did a perfect job without going into the blue strip, and insurance agreed and paid OK.
#AWESOME+ Thanks so much for sharing AWESOME!
Thanks for watching!
beautiful merci
Your bilge is spotless. How you do that?
I have a thing against dirty bilges which quickly become smelly bilges. On a weekend boat I guess I could live with it, but livaboard we do t want smells. It also helps to have OCD!
Throw the tank away and get a $300 tankless propane hotwater heater. They work great and do not need a vent.
Good suggestion. Thanks. But it would not be practical to have the quantity of propane needed, on board a liveaboard yacht. Its bad enough having to source propane re-fills for just cooking purposes. There is no tank or fitting standard that covers multiple countries. On the other hand, a diesel-fired water heater could make sense.
Did you guys really go through all that work and not put a fresh coat of bottom paint on her before you put it back in the water?
Hi Jeff, Correct. But there was good reason for that. When we took the boat out (and as mentioned in the video) some of the antifoul paint had reacted with the Chesapeake fresh water and started to peel off, several layer down. So we needed to remove ALL the antifoul and start again. THere was only one choice to do that, and that was a soda blast. But the only company in the yard allowed to do that wanted about 3x the usual cost (monopoly). So we decided to have the boat hauled in Antigua and have it done there for a fraction of the USA cost. We show this being down a couple of videos later.
Thanks for the reply, just found your videos and I’m enjoying them, I just thought you were acting like sailboat guys And didn’t want buy new paint
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Dumb question - do you just instinctively know what needs servicing (apart from the obvious replacement of faulty parts) or is there a schedule called out in a detailed maintenance manual that came with the boat?
Just instinctively really. No firm Maintenance schedule other than for the engines. But generally furlers should be 5-7 years, rigging 10 years, etc
Hello! I have seen this special video and i want to ask about the primer for the gori propeller. wich manufacture you use for this part of work ?
thanks for answer....
Manfred/Europa/Austria
Hi Manfred, The coating system that we put on the prop was PropSpeed. Its a silicon based paint. It lasted 2 years (so far) with no growth on it.
@@SailCloudyBay Thank for response.. I also have an gori propeller with 3 blades, was very interested and excited about the great hob you have done. So i think i would use the same one for the prop. Your videos are very special and professional !! Its always nice to look at this video.
HR is awesome sailboat.
What happened to the parts under the keel that were sitting on the blocks? Did you lift and move it and then do those spots?
Good question Erik. We decided to leave the re-antifouling till we get to Antigua (where we are doing it right now). We have set the boat on blocks in a slightly different position here, so that we can now get to those spots. If we had to do it in the yard at Herrington there would be 2 choices 1) lift the boat again and re position the blocks or 2) do it when the boat is back in the slings just before launch. The first option would add cost and the 2nd option you don't have much time because once in the slings they usually want to launch you pretty quickly. Its usually enough time to quickly paint a coat of antifoul, but not to do serious work.
That used to worry me too when I got my first sailing boat 20 years ago - seems that they are mostly left, it is not a big deal.
wow, you have a beautiful boat. 6:39 min,
Thanks ... even more beautiful by the end of the video :)
what does it take to drill wholes in a new boat such as HR? a Rolls Royce of sailing boats.