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Similar to how everything that happened during the Concert of Europe was tied to Napoleon, Kissinger was just as influential when it comes to the Cold War (+ even America's post-9/11 foreign policy).
Pretty sure our Police here in Aotearoa New Zealand still do. Lol. I think it's only the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) who can carry arms on their person. Yep. Had to check. It says, in a locked cabinet but, odds on, that cabinet is in the boot (trunk, if you're American). Lol. Makes me proud. 😊 Can New Zealand police carry guns? Arms Act 1983, s 3(2)(ii) Yes, they can and they do, in their vehicles. New Zealand police officers are legally entitled to carry firearms, because the restrictions in the Arms Act that apply to the general public don’t apply to the police (in the same way that they don’t apply to the New Zealand military). Despite the popular perception that New Zealand has an unarmed police force, police policy and practice is for all police vehicles to carry firearms in locked cabinets. So while New Zealand police officers don’t carry firearms on their hip, they do all have firearms readily available to them, that they can usually access within seconds.
yep! that’s what Dale Brown, founder of Detroit Threat Management Center and Detroit Urban Survival told me “Your gonna wanna keep your guns as far away as possible so you don’t accidentally shoot the wrong guy”, Dale said.
@@Gas_Station_Tampons when a politician dies, they usually become the martyr of the party and is used as propaganda to gather more popular votes. His resignation denied that from them
@@phineascampbell3103a smart rider knows when to dismount a dead horse. I mean how many women abandon a guy when he is down and would need support most? When your ship is sinking, you take to the boats. When your position is nearly overrun and you're nearly out of ammo, retreat is the right choice, not cowardice
Nothing in Christian theology says you can’t feel that way. It isn’t inherently sinful to be unable to see the point of a tragedy and be angry and sad about it. I see why it seems contradictory, and it’s a little funny to imagine like…a cartoon pope being angry with God, but as long as you don’t think “I know better and this shouldn’t have happened”, imo you are fine theologically.
@@dstinnettmusichi David I agree with you, it was however something that left an extremely profound impression on those present, as written in Eddie Fenech Adami’s autobiography
@@kingace6186 not really a mystery. The CIA definitely did it. They were pretty pissed that they were about to be disbanded and there is the whole bay of pig situation. just do a little bit of research you find out pretty quick
Knowing you’ve been damned by friends and men you thought you trusted and sending a last letter sending a resignation goes hard AF, just rage inducing knowing they completely stood aside letting this happen. I’m wondering just how many were involved.
I guess this is a symptom of today's society.... But the only people I feel that deserve blame or anger in this situation are the people that kidnapped them.
You’re leaving out a key detail here, while P2 probably didn’t orchestrate it, they KNEW Moro would be kidnapped and purposefully avoided taking action. In 1975, Italian police would arrest a drug trafficker with a genuine British passport named Terrence William Abbott. At his arraignment, Abbott revealed that he was actually “Ali Khoury”, a Palestinian terrorist based out of Lebanon. Using this newly invented identity, “Ali Khoury” infiltrated the Red Brigades in prison and befriended Renato Curcio. He would go on to inform on the Red Brigades’ plans, primarily to Vito Miceli, a P2 member who was the former head of Italy’s intelligence services, who had been arrested for plotting a coup (this caused the 1977 reorganization of their intelligence services). Miceli by then had “cleared” his name and acquired a seat in Italy’s parliament, maintaining his P2 connections. “Ali Khoury” informed Miceli and the police of the Red Brigades’ plans to kill both the judge presiding over Curcio’s trial and Aldo Moro. Yet, the Italian government took no actions to protect them. Instead, Graziano Gori, the cop leading the investigation into “Ali Khoury”, would die in a suspicious hit-and-run car accident. So who was “Ali Khoury”? Well, at trial, Judge Giorgio Floridia would order his release on the grounds that he was a member of the American secret services, and exposed his real identity as Ronald Hadley Stark. Stark was a CIA agent infamous for being the world’s largest trafficker of LSD, the inventor of butane hash oil (dabs), and running a trafficking network stretching from California to Lebanon and further on to Afghanistan, being the primary fixer for the Brotherhood of Eternal Love until its collapse in 1973. Through his Brotherhood connections he had successfully infiltrated numerous leftist groups, trafficking rings, and Lebanese/Palestinian militias across the world. Coincidentally, the only newspaper worldwide to report on Stark’s 1985 “death” is La Repubblica, the same newspaper Aldo Moro holds up in his proof-of-life hostage photo. So yeah, the CIA and P2 knew this was going to happen, and chose to let it happen. I would agree with the Red Brigades’ own claims that they acted independently, but they also acted without real interference for a reason.
@@phlave dont forget good old "radio free europe" which still survives as radio free asia. weird propaganda attempts born of wilsons ideals way back when.
With Moro died the hope for a more righteous Italy and Europe. The "historic compromise" would have put the continent on the path of a stronger social approach to economics and politics. For those who may want a last laugh, the DC was brought down in 1992 by the biggest corruption scandal in the history of Italy and Giulio Andreotti (the then PM that condemned Moro in order to get his place as the sole playmaker) is widely considered one of the most shady politicians of the century. Oh and bonus nugget: you know who was a member of P2, years before becoming PM? Exactly: Silvio Berlusconi
Well, I've lived in Italy long enough to know that it you want to get rid of corruption in politics there, you'll have to evacuate all of Rome and get rid of the pidgeons and street paving stones too. It's never going to work, that, as far as I understand it, was why no one wanted Moro to live, not the right, the left or the Church. It's sad, for sure, but idealism has little place in politics, least of all in Italy. Even Cicciolina wasn't dirty enough for it ;-), that says something.
My local barber was a young man in Italy in the 70s - he remembered Moro's murder very well. Even nearly 50 years later, I could tell it had a big impact on him.
As an italian it's really strange to find the tragedy of moro on international channel, in a certain way it can be seen how the vision change, in italy we still believe in some sort on underlying cospiracy about Moro's case, there are a lot of things you didn't touch on like, Andreotti who was corrupt (like offically known) and motivation to delay any rescue of moro, a strange "seance" in with an unknown sensitive pinpointed the hiding place of the culprits, like the one that was discovered after the fact, in "via Gradoli" there is also the story of Moro's wife who pleaded the police to check that street since it was an hot spot for the comunist extremist, a pleading that was confirmed by others wife's relatives, and the police stated that such a street was non existent many times and the wife made no plead. Strange things that don't add up, it's not a matter of if a cospiracy was really under all of it, it's more like a lot of little conspiracies converged to a single objective, firstly to allow the kidnapping and then to delay any help.
Must do: This is Serbia's JFK Mystery. The assassination of the Prime Minister of Serbia on March 12, 2003 at 12:25, in the courtyard of the Government of the Republic of Serbia building in Belgrade, has many associations with the JFK assassination, and the whole story is very interesting, both because of Zoran Đinđić himself, and because of various foreign secret services which operated and waged their wars on the territory of Serbia, sending messages to each other in their great geostrategic game. The break-up of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Serbia without the permission of the UN Security Council is a precedent that opened Pandora's box, which later developed into what we have today in the world, and the murder of Djindjic depicts the fate of leaders who decide to say no to dictates and decide to break relations with services that helped him to come to power and start leading the sovereign policy of his country.
The recent history of my country is so obscure. It is also a shame that we, in Italy, don't have a chance to study it because school curriculum is too damn long
@@riccardopampagnin8681 se sei fortunato in quinto superiore hai finito il programma del Risorgimento, ma proprio se sei Gastone, il cugino di Paperino
@@joshflynn2173most likely the part of the government that was actually trying to find Moro had talks with the Mafia trying to communicate with the “Banda della Magliana”, a criminal gang that few years before managed to gain control of Rome’s criminal markets, to locate Moro by tracking the guns used in the kidnap, but today it’s common knowledge that the Red Brigades didn’t really like to buy guns from criminal gangs, and tended to used old guns they already owned (which partially explains the high rates of guns jamming) and occasionally buy them from Middle Eastern countries
It's funny because in a famous italian tv series (probably the best ever in the country, inspired by a really good book Romanzo Criminale) the mafia actually tries to "help" the government by found Moro with the help of the criminal gang of Magliana in Rome. 😂 it's probably not true since the book is a romance of what happened and so just inspired by the real events, but still think that's a funny coincidence😂
There are credible stories of involvement of P2, Gladio and Nato. After Vietnam, many Europeans thought the US was weak. They found out the hard way that the US wasn't going to lose its most prestigious jewel. Britain did worse after Lucknow.
Something more to add, it seems also that high members of Democrazia Cristiana, Moro's party, knew where he was and decided not to save him. Raffaele Cutolo, one of the biggest Mafia bossess in Italy's history and creator of modern Camorra, the Neapolitan mafia, who had partial control over Rome too later said that some of his men working with the Banda della Magliana (a famous gang from Rome) had come to know where Moro was situated and said so to some region's high ranking members of Democrazia Cristiana that apparently gave him the cold shoulder about the news as if they had no interest in saving him. This was declared by him while in 41 bis (a special italian prison for Mafia and a few other things which is also attacked by many courts for being to harsh) we cannot know the truthfulness of his affirmations.
@@GrandPrixDecals and "he was found, in a Renault 4 covered in pasta broken at the middle. in a france flag. with the car radio playing the anthem of spain"
When the body of Aldo Moro was found in Via Caietani inside that red Renault 4 was that kind of moment that shocked so much the entire nation that everybody would have remembered for rest of their life what they were doing in that moment. I was a five years old baby playing outside in the frontyard of my house in a quiet town in the western Alps, even if there was absolutely no danger for me in that moment, when my mother heard the news in the special TV news she was so scared that shouted at me telling me to go immediately inside the house. I had no idea of what was happening but it was clear to me that something terrible was happening since all the adults were so scared and worried about what would have come next. I came here out of curiosity about how these events would have been told and analyzed outside of Italy. I subscribed for the quality of the contents and the intersting topics. Great job 👍
for everyone who enjoyed this story, I highly recommend you the mini-series "Esterno Notte" from Marco Bellocchio, it gives you a very human point of view from all the people who where involved in the kidnapping.
I've never watched any of your videos so far, I haven't even watched this one. I just happened to find your channel, but once I played the first few seconds of the video and then noticed that you put all the sources in the description, I instantly subscribed. Prepare yourself to have me binge all your videos.
I've heard of Aldo Moro and his death at the hands of the Red Brigades before, but I haven't studied it. It just seemed like very deep rabbit hole. That said, with all this explained, I have no doubt that Moro's assassination is shady. We might never understand the full story.
I think the shady part is why he wasn't found in those 55 days of kidnapping. It seems very clear that the kidnap and murder itself was at the hand of the Brigate Rosse.
History will tell, some of the kidnappers are still alive and also other people liked to the fact, probably if the have something to say it will be on their final days, and maybe with years passing new documents will jump out
Moro’s assassination is THE Italian rabbit hole: you can wrap up the political history of the country from 1943 to 1992 (and beyond to a certain extent) if you look closely enough
I can’t believe your videos don’t have more views! I love catching a channel like this early. In a year or so you’re going to have views in the millions for sure
These animated “true crime” videos are stunning bro, you genuinely should make more of these. It’s almost like lemeno with better animation IMO and without the HORRENDOUS upload schedule. Keep it up bro you’ve got a great TH-cam career with this quality of upload.
Tremendous work, as always! Your pacing & production quality are truly insane. And as someone who is woefully ignorant of a lot of European history, your channel is slowly turning me into a functional human being
I am amazed by the high production quality, the balanced look at all angle, the captivating narrating of the story line - it's hard to believe that THIS is on youtube and not on Discovery Channel! And it is even harder to believe that the channel has only 99.600 Followers as of now - you deserve to have a much broader audience! Hope you guys will reach the 100k today, and i can't wait to bine watch your videos now (starting with the Olof Palme one you advertised :)....
This is great. I’d love to see a “this is asias” version though. The larger continent really helped the clickablity. I’d really love to see a “this is amerias” version as well in April, which would both be a subtle joke and an interesting documentary. This idea definitely has potential.
A twist on the “this is America’s JFK” would be to highlight a similar assassination mystery from a different country in North or South America, such as the Colosio case
@@senabecool7232 well, i don't think Indira's death really was that mysterious, like there was a very known course of events that happened during the emergency
I suggest everyone to watch the series "Esterno Notte" (exterior night) about the subject, it's one of the best series to come out of Italy in the last years
What an excellent essay. I've heard about this story long time ago, but this was a delightfully well-presented and clear narrative to watch. So take a subscription! :)
I think the start of Europe/Sweden video is what really made it so great, the time,place, and a cliffhanger on an _only_ somewhat relevant detail. I’m glad you copied that.
As an Italian, thank you for covering this dark piece of our history, if you want, check out also the history of Mr. Falcone and Mr. Borsellino, two very important figures of the antimafia commision that got brutally killed in an explosion in the highway, alone with their security guarda. RIP these men
Before I watch the video, just so I remember about this: It is highly contested that the car ahead of Moro's "slammed the breaks". What is believed to have happened is that it did not start at a green light, blocking the traffic, and shortly after the BR opened fire, killing most of the escort detail. One managed to get his pistol out and return fire though, but being the only one capable of doing so and hopelessly outgunned, he was immediately killed.
I still remember that day… i was at kindergarten, my dad came to pick me up… we arrived at home 5 min later, both my grandpa (both served in WWII) already standing guard… my uncle arrived 25 minutes later… it was quite scary…
2 interesting things to say: 1 it was really stupid for the red brigades to assassinate Moro. In the end it essentially achieved nothing. They could have done much more of an impact if they released Moro just after his letter when he denounced and resigned from the CD. 2 an interesting fact about the kidnapping and assassination of Moro is that various high ranking criminals from Rome’s criminal underground (the Magliana Gang) and from the Neapolitan Camorra (led by Raffaele Cutolo) testified in later unrelated cases that they were approached during the first days of the kidnapping by Italian Secret Service agents who asked them to find Moro. They also testified that they eventually found Moro but that the Secret Service “didn’t need the information anymore”. Those are of course words from criminals so take them with a pinch of salt. If they were telling the truth though then possibly the Secret Service and the government knew for a while where Moro was being kept but decided to do nothing.
“JFK Mystery” like they know precisely who committed the act, how it was carried out, why they did it, and they arrested the culprit within a few hours of it happening? That kind of JFK mystery?
Except they didn’t bc the CIA killed him, the rifle the supposed shooter used doesn’t match the markings on the bullet that killed JFK, you might want to look a little closer at it, I’d recommend Wendigoon, he has a great vid on it!
Poor Mori - the indignity of being found in the boot (trunk) of a Renault 4! No one familiar with the vehicle would want to be seen, even dead, in one..!
@@toyanaydin8248 he also gives the wrong impression that the bodyguard detail weren't armed. They were, long guns were kept in the trunk, they had sidearms
Please, please, please, go and read Moro's farewell letter to his family, the last one he wrote in captivity, when he knew that he was about to be killed soon. You will soon forget all the political background and get a poignant glimpse of the tragedy he was going through, and will be surprised of how he still managed to find the most touching words of love for those he had to leave behind
the more i watch these kinds of videos, the more i miss late 20th century italy there was valor, bravery and solid virtues in politics, even if it was marginally small
One thing that would have been nice if you had gone into more depth on was Operation Gladio, which kinda connected all of the actors you mentioned, but I see why you left that out, given its highly contested history, and even more convoluted than even this story. The show archer summed it up best as a "Crypto Fascist Sh*tshow starring Alan Dulles and a bunch of former Nazis.
Aldo Moro wasn't a kingpin - he was the most respected politician in Italy at the time. He also has an important legal work on international relations. After WWII, the Communist Party elected almost half of Italy's parliament and eventually it was outlawed. That led to the creation of the Red Brigades who were responsible for bomb attacks that include the Bologna train station bombing that killed 81 people. Moro had proposed legalizing the Communist Party once again. What must be understood is that Aldo Moro was really the most respected Italian politician at the time - respected by all Italians - the police officer who found his body started to sob and weep when he identified the body. Moro's assassination destroyed the idea or legalizing the Communist Party and also completely annihilated the small support the Red Brigades had. Allan Framcovich's documentary series "Operation Gladio" - broadcated by the BBC - talks about the event. Framcovich made "In Company Business" and his films are about conspiracies by intelligence agencies (mainly the CIA) and though they have known inaccuracies he was an honest documentarist and in no way a cuckoo ideas spreader. There's a film released in 2003, "Bongiorno, Notte" directed by Marco Bellocchio (a communist activist at the time of Moros assassination) about the assassination.
@@ztommyh5378 it wasn't, or better we don't really know. Some detail lead to NAR and far right activist, other to the far left and other "theories" speculate about palestinese terrorist.
The visuals and the style of your documentary is very similar to LEMMiNO's but that's a good thing! Your attention to details is on point as well. Subscribed!
Very interesting and well done. I moved to Bologna not long after the train station there was blown up. Even then, the red brigade was spoken of in hushed terms but, l never knew the stories behind the murder of Aldo Moro. Trying to find out who was involved, would be like trying to find out which drop of the Mediterranean had come from which river.
Hello i am from belgium and we had also a incomplete case it’s called “ les tueurs du Brabant “ or in Flemish “ de bende van nivel “ it’s super complex I hope you could do a video about it 😅
I love how it's still referred to as "Ireland's Troubles" despite most of the conflicts happening in England and parts of the US. Yes it was mostly an Irish-British affair and more deaths happened in the country itself, but more actual fighting took place outside the country.
I see you take some work with your sources, but especially after the HBomber video I would appreciate it if you could make those sources clearer, with links, and inserted where needed in the video.
We had an error on those at time of posting, accidentally sharing our internal shorthand rather than full citations. You should now see full and correct notes. Thank you!
Now wondering what weird mysteries we’ve had in Scotland - unless you find the Ice Cream Wars interesting at all, or who the mystery assassin to the Last Glasgow Godfather was (Arthur Thompson) but those are crime related and not political
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Great Videos! I love these Investigative Showcases! Please, keep them coming!
How do you make these? Can we get a tutorial?
I'd be careful with AnyDesk because it is one of the favorites of scam centers, but other than the bad users, it's a good service.
“How could he get any work done away from his office?”
and “btw, I’m cold” are 2 of the greatest segueways ever
What a weird thing to have occurred on my birthday.
Anytime some horrible thing goes down during the Cold War I’m always expecting Henry Kissinger and I’m never let down
I audibly said "of fucking course" when his name was said
Rest in piss
Similar to how everything that happened during the Concert of Europe was tied to Napoleon, Kissinger was just as influential when it comes to the Cold War (+ even America's post-9/11 foreign policy).
Exactly.
Good all Hank is now organizing meetings in Hell, along with various Bushes, Rockefellers and of course well attended by "royals"
Storing your guns in the trunk is really the mark of a top notch security detail.
Pretty sure our Police here in Aotearoa New Zealand still do. Lol. I think it's only the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) who can carry arms on their person. Yep. Had to check. It says, in a locked cabinet but, odds on, that cabinet is in the boot (trunk, if you're American). Lol. Makes me proud. 😊
Can New Zealand police carry guns?
Arms Act 1983, s 3(2)(ii)
Yes, they can and they do, in their vehicles.
New Zealand police officers are legally entitled to carry firearms, because the restrictions in the Arms Act that apply to the general public don’t apply to the police (in the same way that they don’t apply to the New Zealand military).
Despite the popular perception that New Zealand has an unarmed police force, police policy and practice is for all police vehicles to carry firearms in locked cabinets. So while New Zealand police officers don’t carry firearms on their hip, they do all have firearms readily available to them, that they can usually access within seconds.
They thought they would have enough time to pop the trunk in an emergency???🤣
Yeah. Total amateur move.
yep! that’s what Dale Brown, founder of Detroit Threat Management Center and Detroit Urban Survival told me
“Your gonna wanna keep your guns as far away as possible so you don’t accidentally shoot the wrong guy”, Dale said.
@@CantTellYou Doesn’t he also recommend taking a few deep breaths from the tailpipe while you’re back at the trunk, to really clear your mind?
Sending your resignation as your final message to the men that damned you is fucking legendary ngl.
@@Gas_Station_Tamponsyou've been going around to all comments similar to this one saying the same shit. Are you mentally right in the head?
@@Gas_Station_Tampons when a politician dies, they usually become the martyr of the party and is used as propaganda to gather more popular votes. His resignation denied that from them
@@Gas_Station_Tamponsyou will be forgotten 23 years after you die
Gas_Station_Tampons
Surely sometimes one must accept having to give up a cause as lost, and to do so is a form of bravery in itself?
@@phineascampbell3103a smart rider knows when to dismount a dead horse. I mean how many women abandon a guy when he is down and would need support most? When your ship is sinking, you take to the boats. When your position is nearly overrun and you're nearly out of ammo, retreat is the right choice, not cowardice
The greatest thing about this story that people forget is the Pope. A good friend of Moro, he spoke in his funeral as if he was upset with God.
He would die just a few months layer
Nothing in Christian theology says you can’t feel that way. It isn’t inherently sinful to be unable to see the point of a tragedy and be angry and sad about it.
I see why it seems contradictory, and it’s a little funny to imagine like…a cartoon pope being angry with God, but as long as you don’t think “I know better and this shouldn’t have happened”, imo you are fine theologically.
@@dstinnettmusichi David I agree with you, it was however something that left an extremely profound impression on those present, as written in Eddie Fenech Adami’s autobiography
Well, that's enough proof for me....
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Next video idea: This is America’s JFK Mystery
Yes! It's time for the actual JFK Mystery.
@@kingace6186 not really a mystery. The CIA definitely did it. They were pretty pissed that they were about to be disbanded and there is the whole bay of pig situation. just do a little bit of research you find out pretty quick
Oooh, I wonder who's the victim
I hope he goes for every countries but the US first. It would be hilarious
so close!❤️
This is America’s Aldo Moro’s mystery
The Years of Lead really ought to be better known outside of Italy.
Unfortunately, this is my first time learning about it. Big s/o to this video.
@@kingace6186Italy has insane lore if you want to look into it.
@@kingace6186Search Piazza Fontana bombing and Bologna massacre
@@kingace6186 Or go down the absurd rabbit hole that is the Ustica Itavia Flight 870.
@@aaaz45how do you say years of lead in Italian?
Knowing you’ve been damned by friends and men you thought you trusted and sending a last letter sending a resignation goes hard AF, just rage inducing knowing they completely stood aside letting this happen. I’m wondering just how many were involved.
I guess this is a symptom of today's society.... But the only people I feel that deserve blame or anger in this situation are the people that kidnapped them.
You’d save one person in exchange for letting multiple bad people out??
@@yanz766for one great statesman that can change the political future of the country? Hell yeah
Not entirely sure why you or this channel are blaming the politicians. You know the Red Brigade kidnapped and shot him right?
You’re leaving out a key detail here, while P2 probably didn’t orchestrate it, they KNEW Moro would be kidnapped and purposefully avoided taking action.
In 1975, Italian police would arrest a drug trafficker with a genuine British passport named Terrence William Abbott. At his arraignment, Abbott revealed that he was actually “Ali Khoury”, a Palestinian terrorist based out of Lebanon. Using this newly invented identity, “Ali Khoury” infiltrated the Red Brigades in prison and befriended Renato Curcio.
He would go on to inform on the Red Brigades’ plans, primarily to Vito Miceli, a P2 member who was the former head of Italy’s intelligence services, who had been arrested for plotting a coup (this caused the 1977 reorganization of their intelligence services). Miceli by then had “cleared” his name and acquired a seat in Italy’s parliament, maintaining his P2 connections.
“Ali Khoury” informed Miceli and the police of the Red Brigades’ plans to kill both the judge presiding over Curcio’s trial and Aldo Moro. Yet, the Italian government took no actions to protect them. Instead, Graziano Gori, the cop leading the investigation into “Ali Khoury”, would die in a suspicious hit-and-run car accident.
So who was “Ali Khoury”? Well, at trial, Judge Giorgio Floridia would order his release on the grounds that he was a member of the American secret services, and exposed his real identity as Ronald Hadley Stark. Stark was a CIA agent infamous for being the world’s largest trafficker of LSD, the inventor of butane hash oil (dabs), and running a trafficking network stretching from California to Lebanon and further on to Afghanistan, being the primary fixer for the Brotherhood of Eternal Love until its collapse in 1973. Through his Brotherhood connections he had successfully infiltrated numerous leftist groups, trafficking rings, and Lebanese/Palestinian militias across the world. Coincidentally, the only newspaper worldwide to report on Stark’s 1985 “death” is La Repubblica, the same newspaper Aldo Moro holds up in his proof-of-life hostage photo.
So yeah, the CIA and P2 knew this was going to happen, and chose to let it happen. I would agree with the Red Brigades’ own claims that they acted independently, but they also acted without real interference for a reason.
Bro I would advise you to lay low the CIA is not gonna like this 💀
Great add-on. I would also add that the CIA presence and influence on Italy's politics was part of the Gladio operation.
@@phlave indeed it was. Miceli received at least $800,000 in payments for his involvement in Gladio.
Bro is about to have an unfortunate accident now 🤦♂️
@@phlave dont forget good old "radio free europe" which still survives as radio free asia. weird propaganda attempts born of wilsons ideals way back when.
With Moro died the hope for a more righteous Italy and Europe. The "historic compromise" would have put the continent on the path of a stronger social approach to economics and politics.
For those who may want a last laugh, the DC was brought down in 1992 by the biggest corruption scandal in the history of Italy and Giulio Andreotti (the then PM that condemned Moro in order to get his place as the sole playmaker) is widely considered one of the most shady politicians of the century.
Oh and bonus nugget: you know who was a member of P2, years before becoming PM? Exactly: Silvio Berlusconi
Well, I've lived in Italy long enough to know that it you want to get rid of corruption in politics there, you'll have to evacuate all of Rome and get rid of the pidgeons and street paving stones too. It's never going to work, that, as far as I understand it, was why no one wanted Moro to live, not the right, the left or the Church. It's sad, for sure, but idealism has little place in politics, least of all in Italy. Even Cicciolina wasn't dirty enough for it ;-), that says something.
If the Cold War hadn't stopped by 1992, he would've been in power even beyond that...
kinda dissapointed that andreotti wasn't mentioned more often in this video
@@captainfreedom3649 the cold war never ended, it merely stopped for a while
My local barber was a young man in Italy in the 70s - he remembered Moro's murder very well. Even nearly 50 years later, I could tell it had a big impact on him.
A presidential detail keeping the guns in the trunk is the most European thing ive ever heard.
Jail😂😭
Moro wasn't president of Italy.
They kept long guns in the trunk, they had hand guns. Also he wasn't a president
@@christiandaugherty6339 as good as. The President is a figurehead, a hand that signs. The Premier is the one that takes true action.
@@User5411Valekonaget help for that concussion, child.
In the 1970's all roads led to Kissinger. He never saw a government he didn't want to interfere in, or hold influence over.
if he was in his prime today, the US would prob be a nation he would considerd to need a "hand"
As an italian it's really strange to find the tragedy of moro on international channel, in a certain way it can be seen how the vision change, in italy we still believe in some sort on underlying cospiracy about Moro's case, there are a lot of things you didn't touch on like, Andreotti who was corrupt (like offically known) and motivation to delay any rescue of moro, a strange "seance" in with an unknown sensitive pinpointed the hiding place of the culprits, like the one that was discovered after the fact, in "via Gradoli" there is also the story of Moro's wife who pleaded the police to check that street since it was an hot spot for the comunist extremist, a pleading that was confirmed by others wife's relatives, and the police stated that such a street was non existent many times and the wife made no plead. Strange things that don't add up, it's not a matter of if a cospiracy was really under all of it, it's more like a lot of little conspiracies converged to a single objective, firstly to allow the kidnapping and then to delay any help.
Operation gladio
@@mc5967 that has nothing to do with this..?
@idontwantahandlethough yes it does. Moro was killed by gladio operatives.
Must do: This is Serbia's JFK Mystery.
The assassination of the Prime Minister of Serbia on March 12, 2003 at 12:25, in the courtyard of the Government of the Republic of Serbia building in Belgrade, has many associations with the JFK assassination, and the whole story is very interesting, both because of Zoran Đinđić himself, and because of various foreign secret services which operated and waged their wars on the territory of Serbia, sending messages to each other in their great geostrategic game.
The break-up of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Serbia without the permission of the UN Security Council is a precedent that opened Pandora's box, which later developed into what we have today in the world, and the murder of Djindjic depicts the fate of leaders who decide to say no to dictates and decide to break relations with services that helped him to come to power and start leading the sovereign policy of his country.
The recent history of my country is so obscure. It is also a shame that we, in Italy, don't have a chance to study it because school curriculum is too damn long
History according Italian school system: end in 1945
@@aaaz45 if you are lucky
@@riccardopampagnin8681 se sei fortunato in quinto superiore hai finito il programma del Risorgimento, ma proprio se sei Gastone, il cugino di Paperino
Also apparently the kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro is considered Italy's version of 9/11.
it's delibartely repeating things you already know because the government wants an ignorant mass
A political kidnap and murder in Italy with out the involvement of the mafia. Unbelievable!
they could of been hired
@@joshflynn2173most likely the part of the government that was actually trying to find Moro had talks with the Mafia trying to communicate with the “Banda della Magliana”, a criminal gang that few years before managed to gain control of Rome’s criminal markets, to locate Moro by tracking the guns used in the kidnap, but today it’s common knowledge that the Red Brigades didn’t really like to buy guns from criminal gangs, and tended to used old guns they already owned (which partially explains the high rates of guns jamming) and occasionally buy them from Middle Eastern countries
It's funny because in a famous italian tv series (probably the best ever in the country, inspired by a really good book Romanzo Criminale) the mafia actually tries to "help" the government by found Moro with the help of the criminal gang of Magliana in Rome. 😂 it's probably not true since the book is a romance of what happened and so just inspired by the real events, but still think that's a funny coincidence😂
@joshflynn2173 no, less likely, mafia doesn't like commie
There are credible stories of involvement of P2, Gladio and Nato. After Vietnam, many Europeans thought the US was weak. They found out the hard way that the US wasn't going to lose its most prestigious jewel. Britain did worse after Lucknow.
The segway from Moro to sponsor was truly horrible
I agree. It was less of a segway and more like a fat guy tumbling down a hill on a tricycle.
"segway" lmao
Something more to add, it seems also that high members of Democrazia Cristiana, Moro's party, knew where he was and decided not to save him.
Raffaele Cutolo, one of the biggest Mafia bossess in Italy's history and creator of modern Camorra, the Neapolitan mafia, who had partial control over Rome too later said that some of his men working with the Banda della Magliana (a famous gang from Rome) had come to know where Moro was situated and said so to some region's high ranking members of Democrazia Cristiana that apparently gave him the cold shoulder about the news as if they had no interest in saving him.
This was declared by him while in 41 bis (a special italian prison for Mafia and a few other things which is also attacked by many courts for being to harsh) we cannot know the truthfulness of his affirmations.
“5 days later his body was found in the trunk of a Renault 4”
Disgraceful
They could have used an Italian car.
Bury me in a Ferrari
Exactly what I was thinking, the ultimate insult
Buried beneath a Hawaiian pizza no less
@@GrandPrixDecals and "he was found, in a Renault 4 covered in pasta broken at the middle. in a france flag. with the car radio playing the anthem of spain"
@@crazydinosaur8945 you're suppose to snap spaghetti in half to get it to fit into the pot tho.... 😏
its a great day when spectacles posts. almost as exciting as a lemino post. keep. it. up.
The real mystery is why this channel doesn’t have 1 mil subs
🙏🙏🙏
It will in not too distant future. The quality of the channel demands it.
I blame P2
@@spectacles-dmDont worry man you will reach the goal,it just take time for your channel reach 1 Million subs.
@@jettjones9889 The deep state doesn't want this channel to shine. This channel is exposing too many mysteries. lol
When the body of Aldo Moro was found in Via Caietani inside that red Renault 4 was that kind of moment that shocked so much the entire nation that everybody would have remembered for rest of their life what they were doing in that moment.
I was a five years old baby playing outside in the frontyard of my house in a quiet town in the western Alps, even if there was absolutely no danger for me in that moment, when my mother heard the news in the special TV news she was so scared that shouted at me telling me to go immediately inside the house.
I had no idea of what was happening but it was clear to me that something terrible was happening since all the adults were so scared and worried about what would have come next.
I came here out of curiosity about how these events would have been told and analyzed outside of Italy. I subscribed for the quality of the contents and the intersting topics.
Great job 👍
for everyone who enjoyed this story, I highly recommend you the mini-series "Esterno Notte" from Marco Bellocchio, it gives you a very human point of view from all the people who where involved in the kidnapping.
only discovered this channel recently and just assumed it had at least a million subs, the videos are far too well made for 90k
Love your stuff and have been watching for a long time. A real hidden gem on youtube
Yes. He gave me my first squirting experience!
Amazing guys.. looking forward to still being here when you hit the 1 million subs you deserve 👍🇮🇪
I've never watched any of your videos so far, I haven't even watched this one. I just happened to find your channel, but once I played the first few seconds of the video and then noticed that you put all the sources in the description, I instantly subscribed.
Prepare yourself to have me binge all your videos.
I've heard of Aldo Moro and his death at the hands of the Red Brigades before, but I haven't studied it. It just seemed like very deep rabbit hole. That said, with all this explained, I have no doubt that Moro's assassination is shady. We might never understand the full story.
Maybe CIA - check this : col. fletcher prouty interview 1994
I think the shady part is why he wasn't found in those 55 days of kidnapping. It seems very clear that the kidnap and murder itself was at the hand of the Brigate Rosse.
History will tell, some of the kidnappers are still alive and also other people liked to the fact, probably if the have something to say it will be on their final days, and maybe with years passing new documents will jump out
Moro’s assassination is THE Italian rabbit hole: you can wrap up the political history of the country from 1943 to 1992 (and beyond to a certain extent) if you look closely enough
Operation gladio. It wasn't the red brigades
You should do more of these videos because these are very interesting
I can’t believe your videos don’t have more views! I love catching a channel like this early. In a year or so you’re going to have views in the millions for sure
Thanks!
Thank you!
These animated “true crime” videos are stunning bro, you genuinely should make more of these. It’s almost like lemeno with better animation IMO and without the HORRENDOUS upload schedule.
Keep it up bro you’ve got a great TH-cam career with this quality of upload.
Tremendous work, as always! Your pacing & production quality are truly insane.
And as someone who is woefully ignorant of a lot of European history, your channel is slowly turning me into a functional human being
Thanks Johnny! Looking forward to your next one!
@@spectacles-dm Thanks! It's chugging along
my new favorite channel. love how u tied the ending there. amazing production!!
I am amazed by the high production quality, the balanced look at all angle, the captivating narrating of the story line - it's hard to believe that THIS is on youtube and not on Discovery Channel!
And it is even harder to believe that the channel has only 99.600 Followers as of now - you deserve to have a much broader audience!
Hope you guys will reach the 100k today, and i can't wait to bine watch your videos now (starting with the Olof Palme one you advertised :)....
Now that's a good title and thumbnail,it actually got me interested, other youtubers should learn
This channel really deserves more subs. Super high quality content and very interesting. Keep it up!
This is great. I’d love to see a “this is asias” version though. The larger continent really helped the clickablity. I’d really love to see a “this is amerias” version as well in April, which would both be a subtle joke and an interesting documentary. This idea definitely has potential.
For Asia, I would love to see a video about the assassination of Indira and Rajiv Ghandi
A twist on the “this is America’s JFK” would be to highlight a similar assassination mystery from a different country in North or South America, such as the Colosio case
For the Philippines, Ninoy Aquino Jr assassination in August 21, 1983 at Manila International Airport (now named after him).
@@senabecool7232 well, i don't think Indira's death really was that mysterious, like there was a very known course of events that happened during the emergency
@@user6122 well, what about the Munir Murder
Excellent video, and that sponsorship transition was hilariously smooth
Another amazing video, as always
Excellent throughout, but especially that closing monologue, just perfect
As an Italian, I just had to see the thumbnail. That Red Renault 4 is hunting all of us
I suggest everyone to watch the series "Esterno Notte" (exterior night) about the subject, it's one of the best series to come out of Italy in the last years
love these Unity thumbnails: you immediately know this is a well researched and visualized documentary
I'm so glad to see a new video, thanks guys!
That Segway was wild 😭
I remember this from my high school days. I understand it much better now. Well done!
What an excellent essay. I've heard about this story long time ago, but this was a delightfully well-presented and clear narrative to watch. So take a subscription! :)
I’m in the middle of listening to the behind the bastards podcast about Kissinger and when 19:19 hit I said OMG out loud
Love the content and the animations. Keep it up 👍🏻
If only he had AnyDesk, he'd still be alive today.
Wow, that was like watching an HBO special. That was epic
The quality of your video is so amazing looking forward to the next video like this
The music, the atmosphere... Its so fucking good
"You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." - George Carlin
I think the start of Europe/Sweden video is what really made it so great, the time,place, and a cliffhanger on an _only_ somewhat relevant detail. I’m glad you copied that.
extremely well documented and engaging video! Please make more of those videos, because youtube needs those kind of Documentaries
As an Italian, thank you for covering this dark piece of our history, if you want, check out also the history of Mr. Falcone and Mr. Borsellino, two very important figures of the antimafia commision that got brutally killed in an explosion in the highway, alone with their security guarda. RIP these men
Before I watch the video, just so I remember about this:
It is highly contested that the car ahead of Moro's "slammed the breaks". What is believed to have happened is that it did not start at a green light, blocking the traffic, and shortly after the BR opened fire, killing most of the escort detail. One managed to get his pistol out and return fire though, but being the only one capable of doing so and hopelessly outgunned, he was immediately killed.
I still remember that day… i was at kindergarten, my dad came to pick me up… we arrived at home 5 min later, both my grandpa (both served in WWII) already standing guard… my uncle arrived 25 minutes later… it was quite scary…
2 interesting things to say:
1 it was really stupid for the red brigades to assassinate Moro. In the end it essentially achieved nothing. They could have done much more of an impact if they released Moro just after his letter when he denounced and resigned from the CD.
2 an interesting fact about the kidnapping and assassination of Moro is that various high ranking criminals from Rome’s criminal underground (the Magliana Gang) and from the Neapolitan Camorra (led by Raffaele Cutolo) testified in later unrelated cases that they were approached during the first days of the kidnapping by Italian Secret Service agents who asked them to find Moro. They also testified that they eventually found Moro but that the Secret Service “didn’t need the information anymore”. Those are of course words from criminals so take them with a pinch of salt. If they were telling the truth though then possibly the Secret Service and the government knew for a while where Moro was being kept but decided to do nothing.
ahh yes my favorite past time game ending political leader,
everybody should try it, it's fun
“JFK Mystery” like they know precisely who committed the act, how it was carried out, why they did it, and they arrested the culprit within a few hours of it happening? That kind of JFK mystery?
Except they didn’t bc the CIA killed him, the rifle the supposed shooter used doesn’t match the markings on the bullet that killed JFK, you might want to look a little closer at it, I’d recommend Wendigoon, he has a great vid on it!
@@Farmer_brown134if you read any history or any comments from historians the vast vast majority of academics agree that it was not a conspiracy.
Yes? Both events are really similar. Unless you're being sarcastic and I missed it.
@@Farmer_brown134 an extremely understood echo doesn't represent a second shooter - the end
HOW THE HELL DO YOU HAVE ONLY 145K SUBS?!?!?!?!?!?
Amazing video! Next: Lebanon's JFK Mystery? (Rafic Hariri)
Title got me in instantly, stayed for a great video❤❤❤
i lovs this type of videos man, first video i have found hoping for more 🙌
Great story telling skills you have sir. Good job
This channel is going to be huge one day
Poor Mori - the indignity of being found in the boot (trunk) of a Renault 4! No one familiar with the vehicle would want to be seen, even dead, in one..!
Democracy? Democracy? Did you not spend 5 minutes looking up postwar Italian politics? That closing monologue….
What he should have seen? I'm curious.
surprised not more people are pointing this out. The closing monologue seemed out of place.
@@toyanaydin8248 he also gives the wrong impression that the bodyguard detail weren't armed. They were, long guns were kept in the trunk, they had sidearms
@@toyanaydin8248 Italy is a democracy to this day, even if strongly flawed, it’s freedom index for example is strong
Please, please, please, go and read Moro's farewell letter to his family, the last one he wrote in captivity, when he knew that he was about to be killed soon. You will soon forget all the political background and get a poignant glimpse of the tragedy he was going through, and will be surprised of how he still managed to find the most touching words of love for those he had to leave behind
So good. SO GOOD. Stuff happened in my lifetime and I've never heard of any of this.
Boy was I glad to see this pop up
Boy were we glad to see this pop up
great video as always!
Amazing work!
Your voice is challenging to listen to. The up and down and up and down is exhausting. It's hard to binge
the more i watch these kinds of videos, the more i miss late 20th century italy
there was valor, bravery and solid virtues in politics, even if it was marginally small
It’s important to note that Moro was center left, the CD was split about half and half between the center right and the center left
One thing that would have been nice if you had gone into more depth on was Operation Gladio, which kinda connected all of the actors you mentioned, but I see why you left that out, given its highly contested history, and even more convoluted than even this story. The show archer summed it up best as a "Crypto Fascist Sh*tshow starring Alan Dulles and a bunch of former Nazis.
that line summarizes a great deal of American security org history...
@@spectacles-dm You are not wrong.
I love this. Great Story telling sir.
First time viewer. Wow, ill be watching more of this man
Aldo Moro wasn't a kingpin - he was the most respected politician in Italy at the time. He also has an important legal work on international relations.
After WWII, the Communist Party elected almost half of Italy's parliament and eventually it was outlawed. That led to the creation of the Red Brigades who were responsible for bomb attacks that include the Bologna train station bombing that killed 81 people. Moro had proposed legalizing the Communist Party once again. What must be understood is that Aldo Moro was really the most respected Italian politician at the time - respected by all Italians - the police officer who found his body started to sob and weep when he identified the body. Moro's assassination destroyed the idea or legalizing the Communist Party and also completely annihilated the small support the Red Brigades had.
Allan Framcovich's documentary series "Operation Gladio" - broadcated by the BBC - talks about the event. Framcovich made "In Company Business" and his films are about conspiracies by intelligence agencies (mainly the CIA) and though they have known inaccuracies he was an honest documentarist and in no way a cuckoo ideas spreader.
There's a film released in 2003, "Bongiorno, Notte" directed by Marco Bellocchio (a communist activist at the time of Moros assassination) about the assassination.
The Bologna train station bombing was actually from the neo-fascist group "NAR" (Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari)
@@ztommyh5378 it wasn't, or better we don't really know. Some detail lead to NAR and far right activist, other to the far left and other "theories" speculate about palestinese terrorist.
Wow! What a great video!
The visuals and the style of your documentary is very similar to LEMMiNO's but that's a good thing! Your attention to details is on point as well. Subscribed!
Next up: MY JFK Mystery.
Where did my goldfish go all those years ago? Did Spike or Whiskers eat him? Did my parents get tired of buying fish food?
Very interesting and well done. I moved to Bologna not long after the train station there was blown up. Even then, the red brigade was spoken of in hushed terms but, l never knew the stories behind the murder of Aldo Moro. Trying to find out who was involved, would be like trying to find out which drop of the Mediterranean had come from which river.
Hello i am from belgium and we had also a incomplete case it’s called “ les tueurs du Brabant “ or in Flemish “ de bende van nivel “ it’s super complex I hope you could do a video about it 😅
how is this channel so small
Wow just noticed your subscriber count. I thought would be like 2 million
23:41 that second guy is Roberto Calvi, another good, dark, chilling Italian story
Amazing video
Great video
I love how it's still referred to as "Ireland's Troubles" despite most of the conflicts happening in England and parts of the US.
Yes it was mostly an Irish-British affair and more deaths happened in the country itself, but more actual fighting took place outside the country.
What a shame that you didn't mention Gladio and the questionable backstory of Mario Moretti even once.
I love videos like this, it makes me stop after 2 minutes and immediately go and find other videos that are better on the topic.
I see you take some work with your sources, but especially after the HBomber video I would appreciate it if you could make those sources clearer, with links, and inserted where needed in the video.
We had an error on those at time of posting, accidentally sharing our internal shorthand rather than full citations. You should now see full and correct notes. Thank you!
Hbomber fans try not to be annoyingly self righteous challenge: impossible. You think your favourite balding egg head doesn’t plagiarise too?
Now wondering what weird mysteries we’ve had in Scotland - unless you find the Ice Cream Wars interesting at all, or who the mystery assassin to the Last Glasgow Godfather was (Arthur Thompson) but those are crime related and not political
I resent calling the JFK assassination a mystery