Jorge already confirmed that the sirens weren’t gonna be in the 2 songs in a livestream if I remember correctly. On the other hand, one of the two songs is Circe warning odysseus about Scylla
zeus's metaphor feels extrmely in character and i hate him for it. of course his metaphor is sexual assault, that's like 60% of what he does in the myths.
Easily the most hype act 2 saga, given just how little we have of it. I think there is more total runtime we haven't heard than total runtime of the Circe Saga and Underworld Saga I've just done the math, and the unheard runtime amounts to 11:37. The runtime of The Underworld is 10:41, and the Circe Saga is 12:57. The total runtime for the Thunder Saga is 16:35.
Keep in mind that we still dont know the first 2 songs, so thats why its way shorter. Besides itd be way funner to listen to the saga almost completely blind dont you think? Adds more suspense imo
Eurylochus surprisingly became one of my favorites, he feels pretty down to Earth and I like that he still cares for Odysseus. “You’re like the brother I could never do without.” I know what the end of this clip implies but it’s still sad, just hope they pull off the drama well
You can really tell That they’re Awesome dudes if they’re stick fighting on a beach and with dramatic music and think they’re super badass 😂. I love these guys
Dude that new beginning for Scylla is so AWESOME, it's like a mystical suspense for a purely terrifying being like Scylla. Thank you for putting in the effort to compile this stuff! 💖
My prediction is that it won't be the island/cattle of Helios, but instead the Island/cattle of *Apollo,* since they're both entities of the sun and Apollo is already confirmed to be in EPIC. Also, one of the reasons I heard that we don't have Apollo's part in "God games" yet is because it's a "spoiler," potentially for the Helios/Apollo switch
@@Im_Just_A_Fungi Apollo and Helios are the same god. Apollo is from greek mithology while Helios is from roman mithology. Helios is Apollo with a different name.
@@Arabafenice36 Actually, Apollo is one of the few gods that kept his name from the switch from Greek to Roman (but he didn't keep his title as sun god, apparently the Roman god of the sun is "Sol Invictus". To my knowledge he was still the god of poetry, art, healing and plague though). Helios (along with Selene, goddess of the moon) was technically a titan, not a god, so you are right in saying Helios was not the *God* of the Sun. They are children of Hyperion and Theia, and descend from Gaia and Uranus. Currently there are no known surviving myths that explain why this change was made. One theory I heard was that Apollo was usually associated with light, even before his time as sun god, and so people started worshipping him as the Sun instead. We may never truly know why or how the switch was made, but it surely is fun to speculate!
It may not come out until end of this year or next year, because we don’t even have a preview of those two untitled songs, and songs (especially in musicals) take a bit to make.
@@Snowy_weather387 I'm not even kidding Anna I think who plays Penelope said they're going to try to release a saga every other month. And true but I have a feeling these first 2 songs he wants to keep close
@@killeredge1394 i would guess they would wait a little longer for this saga since it’s the start of act 2. (with the idea that it’s completely 100% finished, we have no clue if it is or not) But also I could just be blabbering BS 🤷♀️
We know one has 9 characters in it's title and the other has two words one with 9 other with 5. My guesses for the titles are "Confession" and "Lightning Storm" (or "Lighting Bolts"). Since we're yet to get Eurylochus' confession he wanted to share in Puppeteer and this is the Thunder saga and there's only one thunder related song there so far
Thunder Bringer is after Helios island cause Helios threatened not to bring the sun up again cause of Odysseus crew, so Zeus promised to take care of it
Most of these songs aren’t in the thunder saga though? I’m pretty sure Scylla won’t be in it until near the end edit: I stand corrected it’s just Charybdis I was thinking of that’s toward the end not both
@@Beaniebeaniee I stand corrected, I thought for some reason that Scylla and Charybdis were closer together when I last looked at it but I was wrong. I was super excited for both so I’m glad one of them are coming out sooner than I thought!
Possible spoilers ig Apparently Odysseus intentionally used some of his men as bait then ran away, which makes it very understandable why Eury would be angry lol. Part of the whole “becoming the monster” thing
@@Phasmaniain the odyssey that’s basically what he does it was either that or face Charybdis and everyone gets killed. Now in this musical it might be different
it would be cool if one of the the secret songs was Circe and Telegenous. and if you don't know basically while on Circe's island she managed to seduce Odysseus and then after he leaves Circe finds o ut she's pregnant and gives birth to her son Telegnous who in the son of Odyesseus
I don’t think that will be one because with Jay’s version of Circe she never actually seduced him, the whole plan was to kill him but he stopped her before she could.
TIME STAMPS:
(Song 21 and 22 TBA)
0:00 - Scylla
1:17 - Mutiny
2:54 - Thunder Bringer
imagine some random person passing by seeing Jay and Armando stick fighting with some epic dramatic music and no context lmfao
They need no context
@@Jackolpe Its already really hecking cool, I'd watch
@@emiliar3543They'd have a redo with you in the camera.
@@storminlogan1878 Headcanon:
Some random guy in Epic canon was watching the fight in Mutiny
Calling it now, one of those secret songs is gonna be the sirens. It has to be, thats one of the most iconic moments of the odyssey
Wasn't circe the siren?
No, she was a witch, I think, or enchantresses
Unfortunately, he said that the two songs would be not from the odyssey to show off Odysseus’ ruthlessness
Jorge already confirmed that the sirens weren’t gonna be in the 2 songs in a livestream if I remember correctly. On the other hand, one of the two songs is Circe warning odysseus about Scylla
@@aceofhearts91 oh.
The beginning of Zeus is so gross/creepy... Perfect to his character. It sounds amazing, and gives me an instant "ew, what a slimeball" response.
that's why Hera got intriqued when Athena said Ody's had never once cheated lol
zeus's metaphor feels extrmely in character and i hate him for it. of course his metaphor is sexual assault, that's like 60% of what he does in the myths.
I'd argue and say it's more like...85%, but yeah😅
@@medatala I'd say it's at least 90% but I digress
Also how full of himself he is. He doesn't even address Odysseus and his crew in the first half of the song.
Easily the most hype act 2 saga, given just how little we have of it. I think there is more total runtime we haven't heard than total runtime of the Circe Saga and Underworld Saga
I've just done the math, and the unheard runtime amounts to 11:37. The runtime of The Underworld is 10:41, and the Circe Saga is 12:57. The total runtime for the Thunder Saga is 16:35.
That’s insane
It’s crazy how this is the next saga but we only have less than 5 minutes of snippets
Keep in mind that we still dont know the first 2 songs, so thats why its way shorter. Besides itd be way funner to listen to the saga almost completely blind dont you think? Adds more suspense imo
@@L1metless July 4th; we’ll find out
I love how Thunder Bringer incorporates triples to show the ruthless… that and I love Scylla’s music ❤️
Mutiny breaks my heart
I know right?
On one hand I’m so excited for mutiny because I love angst. But on the other hand I’m crushed because I love Eury 😢
Eurylochus surprisingly became one of my favorites, he feels pretty down to Earth and I like that he still cares for Odysseus. “You’re like the brother I could never do without.” I know what the end of this clip implies but it’s still sad, just hope they pull off the drama well
...so how ya doing right now?
You can really tell That they’re Awesome dudes if they’re stick fighting on a beach and with dramatic music and think they’re super badass 😂. I love these guys
Dude that new beginning for Scylla is so AWESOME, it's like a mystical suspense for a purely terrifying being like Scylla. Thank you for putting in the effort to compile this stuff! 💖
I’ll bet my left kidney that out of songs 21 and 22, one is the sirens and the other is Helios cattle
I can’t remember the exact date but Jay said once in the discord that the sirens won’t be in EPIC but Helios Cattle are pretty likely
My prediction is that it won't be the island/cattle of Helios, but instead the Island/cattle of *Apollo,* since they're both entities of the sun and Apollo is already confirmed to be in EPIC. Also, one of the reasons I heard that we don't have Apollo's part in "God games" yet is because it's a "spoiler," potentially for the Helios/Apollo switch
@@Im_Just_A_Fungi Apollo and Helios are the same god.
Apollo is from greek mithology while Helios is from roman mithology. Helios is Apollo with a different name.
@@Arabafenice36 Actually, Apollo is one of the few gods that kept his name from the switch from Greek to Roman (but he didn't keep his title as sun god, apparently the Roman god of the sun is "Sol Invictus". To my knowledge he was still the god of poetry, art, healing and plague though).
Helios (along with Selene, goddess of the moon) was technically a titan, not a god, so you are right in saying Helios was not the *God* of the Sun. They are children of Hyperion and Theia, and descend from Gaia and Uranus.
Currently there are no known surviving myths that explain why this change was made. One theory I heard was that Apollo was usually associated with light, even before his time as sun god, and so people started worshipping him as the Sun instead. We may never truly know why or how the switch was made, but it surely is fun to speculate!
I can’t wait for this saga to come out on July 4th 😆🤭 I’ll be blasting Syclla that entire day
I’m so excited for this saga with mutiny AND thunderbringer ahhhh
with underworld saga out, im excited for the instruments here
Im so excited for Thunder Bringer. I hope we get this saga in August or somewhere around there
Think about the patern so far. Dec(Storm)
Feb(Circe)
April(under)
June(maybeee thunder??)
It may not come out until end of this year or next year, because we don’t even have a preview of those two untitled songs, and songs (especially in musicals) take a bit to make.
@@Snowy_weather387 I'm not even kidding Anna I think who plays Penelope said they're going to try to release a saga every other month. And true but I have a feeling these first 2 songs he wants to keep close
@@Snowy_weather387 besides I think he'll drop a update probably at the end of this month
@@killeredge1394 i would guess they would wait a little longer for this saga
since it’s the start of act 2. (with the idea that it’s completely 100% finished, we have no clue if it is or not) But also I could just be blabbering BS 🤷♀️
Eurylocus getting salt water all over his face😢
Wait- what are people talking on about song 21 and 22? Are there two other songs we know NOTHING of? Or is it just outdated info?
I just did the math on act 2 song and- HOW DID I NEVER REALISED THAT THEY WEREN'T 20?!
We know nothing about them but the amount of characters in their titles, their lengths, and approximately where in the story they are
We know one has 9 characters in it's title and the other has two words one with 9 other with 5. My guesses for the titles are "Confession" and "Lightning Storm" (or "Lighting Bolts"). Since we're yet to get Eurylochus' confession he wanted to share in Puppeteer and this is the Thunder saga and there's only one thunder related song there so far
21 or 22 has to be helio's island right? or is that in mutiny? bro im so excited either way
Mutiny takes place right after scylla, so it's probably 21
Thunder Bringer is after Helios island cause Helios threatened not to bring the sun up again cause of Odysseus crew, so Zeus promised to take care of it
I think 21 or 22 could also be the sirens
Now make the lines :٩👿۶ 🐲 "i am the monster rawr rawr rawr"
JULY 4TH EVERYONE🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I hope someone makes a animatic for Mutiny and Thunder Bringer soon
Where can we watch/listen to the official?! I missed the livestream!
I can’t wait
Most of these songs aren’t in the thunder saga though? I’m pretty sure Scylla won’t be in it until near the end
edit: I stand corrected it’s just Charybdis I was thinking of that’s toward the end not both
Jorge made a video showing the order of all the songs in epic a long time ago and these songs are the ones that appear in the thunder saga.
@@Beaniebeaniee I stand corrected, I thought for some reason that Scylla and Charybdis were closer together when I last looked at it but I was wrong. I was super excited for both so I’m glad one of them are coming out sooner than I thought!
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Why does Eurylochus want to fight Scylla anyway? Won't she kill them all
Possible spoilers ig
Apparently Odysseus intentionally used some of his men as bait then ran away, which makes it very understandable why Eury would be angry lol. Part of the whole “becoming the monster” thing
@@Phasmania Oh that makes sense, but if Odysseus hadn't, wouldn't they all have died?
@@Phasmaniain the odyssey that’s basically what he does it was either that or face Charybdis and everyone gets killed. Now in this musical it might be different
it would be cool if one of the the secret songs was Circe and Telegenous. and if you don't know basically while on Circe's island she managed to seduce Odysseus and then after he leaves Circe finds o ut she's pregnant and gives birth to her son Telegnous who in the son of Odyesseus
I don’t think that will be one because with Jay’s version of Circe she never actually seduced him, the whole plan was to kill him but he stopped her before she could.
Not Homer, Telegonus isn't canon
@@Into_The_Sin he is it takes place after the odyssey
@@Huntressofartemis15 It's not Homer. It's a lost poem telling a story about Odysseus being killed by Telegonus, it's not as "valid" as Homer
@@Huntressofartemis15 wasnt made by the same author.
Oh? (69th comment lol)