ADHDers! If you've got a topic that you'd like to see covered, leave a comment below. I'm currently working on several interviews and videos surrounding women and girls with diagnosed and undiagnosed ADHD, and a soon-to-be-released irreverent podcast talking to ADHDers and neurodivergents. If you'd like to share your story, drop me an e-mail (e-mail address in the about page, or via the website www.welcometothewormhole.com)
Not sure what you mean by ‘leave a comment IN the description’ so will do it here: What do the developments in ADHD research in the past decade or two mean for distinguishing ADHD from (very) intellectually gifted behaviour? E.g. in order to determine whether trying medication makes sense. Things like emotional sensitivity, hyperfocus and, perfectionism are now described as typical of ADHD in a way they weren't (widely) 15 years ago. Back then they were more considered typical of gifted behaviour, whether people were 2E or not. Was this perspective wrong and actually more gifted people than anyone realised had ADHD all along and these aren’t really issues of giftedness? Or is it more a matter of this becoming even more nuanced and difficult to determine? Plus what are some differences in this respect related to gender socialisation?
Fixed - and thank you! I've copy pasted that in my notes 👍 I'm hoping to speak to someone soon who's an expert on ADHD, so questions like these will be really well received.
Imagine being diagnosed at 48. And being female. Insurance doesn't cover meds, because "You can't be diagnosed as an adult, has to be as a child, and you're a girl, it's a boys thing" . So I pay out of pocket only for my Adderall. When you hear it said to you, you are ADHD, suddenly you look back and your entire life makes sense. Your vids are wonderful, especially for sharing with my neurotypical loved ones. If I can get them to watch some of these it helps. Thank you for these. Maybe others are forced to pay for meds out of pocket? I advocate for Adult ADHDers, but still insurance won't pay. Maybe an episode? Lori
I always find these arguments for ADHD meds being addictive somewhat funny (sorta as it's sad at the same time). I have to put on a timer to remind myself to take my second dose! I don't think addicts need a reminder! For me, finding out at 24 allowed me to graduate with a Computer Science degree which has gotten me quite far in my 54 years on this planet. And stimulant medication has had a role. There was a time where I doubted using it and was off of it for too long, meaning I was struggling with all that goes with ADHD symptoms. Once I got back on them a few years back, I immediately saw a difference. And videos like this and from other ADHD channels on here helped me understand more about how ADHD works (or doesn't work). I'm surprised at how much I never bothered to find out. I did read a lot but never about the brain chemistry and all that goes with it. So thanks for creating this video! I hope it helps others who are making a decision feel more confident either way.
There it is! I had to leave it out as I wanted to just keep it factual for this one, but considering how many times I've forgotten to order my meds, or forgotten to take them sorta gives a clue to the addictive side 😂 How did you find the assessment and treatment process 30 years ago? Thanks Robert for taking the time to come t and share - means a lot!❤️
Yeah the due app on my phone is my nag to take my pills! 30 yrs ago it was more formal, but still similar to today. This is in the US so I’m not sure what it’s like the UK and elsewhere. But I did get the tests in both Maryland and California and both docs were in total agreement with me.
...aaaaaaand THERE it is! I was waiting for you to mention the glaring fact that untreated ADHD folks tend to fall into alcoholism. Spot on! Also, teens with untreated ADHD are more likely to start smoking/vaping.
yup! Substance abuse of pretty much any kind is a lot more common for the untreated....and even food and irregular eating. Anything for that good ol dopamine 😂 or as my friend called it - dopamining 😂 I left it out, but one very strong point too....if the meds were addictive....how come I keep forgetting to take them
I was diagnosed age 43 with comorbid Aspergers and (as I found out for myself) dyspraxia......sure explained a LOT about my life. I confess to liking my roll-ups (making the perfect roll-up in my little machine. - oh yes, and I'm a tool and gadget freak. - ) but I can do a flight to LA from the UK which when you account for check in, security and immigration formalities at each end is about 11 or 12 hours without craving a fag.....so I'm addicted to the HABIT I think, not the nicotine so much.....I used to drink a couple or three units a day but knocked that on the head nearly 2 years ago. I tried cocaine about 40 years ago, calmed me down (!) The cannabis stops the restless leg syndrome so in a sense I'm addicted to that but on the whole I don't seem to have an addictive personality......good thing really as my career involves having regular access to controlled drugs ! But my career has made me the person I am today who can endure social interaction and - in limited circumstances - actually partake, so a fortunate choice in the end. What keeps me awake at night is - as someone SO eloquently put it - the ongoing sense of frustrating underachievement. I'm 65 now so not much can be done about that I'm afraid......
i didnt start taking my adhd medication until i was 26, its almost frustrating that i finnaly was able to see clearly so late in life. on one hand i wish i never knew how much it could help me so i didnt have to take it because ive become so dependent on it to get through my day. on the other hand its made a huge positive impact on my life, allowing me to work and function as a normal person. i dont drink or smoke weed, but i have a pretty large dependency on caffeine and nicotine as well. i wish i was diagnosed when i was younger, but at the same time i wish i never knew it exested at all, almost like that "blissfull ignorance" i was able to get this far in life without it. there are some unfortunate side effects, for me, poor hand circulation, so i often have really cold hands, and the fact that your day has to be very structured, as in wake and eat and take medication at the same time so i can sleep at night, its hard to balance. but all in all its really helped me in life.
Thanks for sharing Lambeaux! Hummmm...now thats a perspective I've never considered. For me, I was in 'blissful ignorance' until I couldn't take life anymore...I was almost out of options and if it wasn't for a video that popped up which began describing me to a t, I'm not sure where I'd be now. ❤️
@@welcometothewormhole just think about all the ways you were able to develop coping mechanisms in your life without it. its pretty impressive that people with adhd pre diagnosis are able to make it as far as we have, but i agree, at a certain point, life gets to hard, the skills that you developed to get through life stop working, and seeking help is the only option. im glad that you have found it, how long have you been taking them now? also just be careful, make sure you take sufficient tolerance breaks because some days will feel like its not as effective, but in reality its your body's serotonin and dopamine receptors that are just depleted. take your rest days when you can.
Thanks for making these videos!!! I really appreciate how to the point and factual they are. I think another reason that the myth of addiction gets perpetuated is that if you take away ADHD meds from a person with ADHD, they are going to be less productive, more erratic and have other "personality changes" based on an outsiders perspective, simply because they are a person with ADHD who is now unmedicated, but who the world knew as medicated. Without my meds I go back to how I was before, and I guess that might look like someone in withdrawal, but it's really just me.
Getting past the fear of being or becoming "dependent" on a pill was a huge obstacle in getting help for my son. The opioid crisis surely didn't help. He takes his medication and feels such relief now, but still says he has that watchful eye in case if dependence. I think dependence means NOT having a clinical diagnosis while still being dependent on medication.
I don't know any details, but if there is a history of addiction with your son, there are some wonderful and insightful videos, lectures and research on this topic and the use of stimulant medication treatment. I'm trying to take little steps so I don't do my usual 'all or nothing' but I'm hoping soon to have the references and research page of the site sectioned off into topics like these so people can easily access this information. I'm so glad he's getting the relief he needs and deserves ❤️
I was always afraid of being dependant on a pill...I made it through grad school, earned my doctorate without taking medications By the time I was doing my real job (physical therapist) I was so bogged down in repetitive boring oaperwork, I was starting to fail at my job. Not for lack of ability, but sheer lack of focus. I COULDN'T get myself to sit down and just do the papwrwork. It was mental agony. So I finally allowed myself to seek out a psychiatrist and start on medication. I'm now kicking myself wondering what I could have done with my life had I been taking this medication the whole time. I can sit down and knock out two hours of paperwork. I can only imagine the grades I'd have gotten if I'd actually been able to sit and study like a normal student.
Brain is lacking in production of chemicals needed to regulate the body and mind, stimulants will fix this. Of course a dependence will develop, it would be strange to think it would not. But it is even more strange to think that this is a bad thing. If he had diabetes? would you be afraid of kiddo becoming dependent on insulin? kiddo could die without, now that is dependence for you. Adhd people wont die without, most will do just fine. But we could lose our jobs, lose out on education, lose out on friends, social connection and even love, hell sometimes I lose my car. 100% I have a dependence on this, but it is not a bad thing, the alternative is a joke when compared side by side. I'm not saying people who do not use medication will not be fine in life, I'm saying it's very naive to think that developing a dependence matters, because it doesn't, you can quit any day you want, these are just stimulants, the dependency will slowly go away as you get used to being without meds.
I got diagnosed two years ago. I still haven’t gotten any meds. I’m on the end of my rope tho honestly. I’m watching this to try to motivate me to try meds because I’m so depressed right now it’s my last chance
You will develop a physical dependency (not an addiction) meaning if you were to stop the medication you would experience withdrawals if you take the correct dosage and if you need to stop taking the medication taper off (DO NOT DO IT COLD TURKEY) there is a huge misunderstanding between physical dependency on a needed medication and being addicted to said medication I abused any drug that increased dopamine in an attempt to self medicate not knowing i had adhd once i was put on adhd medication i no longer had any desire to abuse any drug at all since my mind felt normal and balanced
I'm really enjoying all your videos. Very informative for people thinking about getting a diagnosis and trying medication for the first time. You do a good job of destigmatizing the condition and reducing anxiety about treatment. Thank you!
Thanks so much Allison! Thats a big old hit of dopamine right there!😂 That's the bit I'm really fired up about at the moment - the stigma and shame surrounding a pretty everyday treatment. I'm not medication-centric, but I felt those were good topics to cover to kick start the discussions around all this.
Also, when testing rats, when you see a rat in a cage engage in a certain behavior, it's important to remember it's a rat in a cage. It's not a happy rat. It's going to influence their psychology and their behavior. A rat in a cage will sit and do cocaine basically until it dies. A rat in a giant terrarium will do cocaine until it gets bored, and then it will go do something else, something rats in a cage can't do. Summary, rats in a cage don't always translate to humans, and humans should take care not to act like rats in a cage. Go outside. Take a walk. Get out of the house.
Thanks you for these videos. I would like to hear more about the topic of being on the med as a person with ADHD. Fx. What are the things, behaviors or challenges you still feel quite strong even on Med. Thanks in advance. Also, I recently learned that the med (due to increasing the focus) some times take a bit of the creativity out of your mind (which is a part I truly love), why some uses the short term pill to really plan when to stay focused and get certain done and when not to, to still allow moments for the brain to go wild with innovation. What’s your experience on that?
Thanks Sophie - I'm trying really hard to make things accessible. I know there's a few typos, but I've given myself a goal of trying to improve one thing with each video. Any suggestions are very much appreciated ❤️
Given how many times I can forget to take my meds I'd say that at least in my case, as some mere anecdotal evidence, it's not leading to any sort of addiction at all.
Personally, someone with ADHD and Autism - the adhd meds don't work for me. I can only tolerate a low dose of an ADHD med. Unsure if that is just me or my ADHD plus Autism. I've tried the non stimulants, too and they work better than the ADHD med for me but has side effects :-/
Interesting. I am also Autistic + ADHD. Just started vyvance and was told that this is the stimulant that tends to be most helpful for Autistic ADHDers. I’m on day 4 of taking 20mg, had HUGE improvement on days 1, 2 and 3. Today I am noticing it is not doing quite as much for me but that is expected and my dose will go up to 30mg on Thursday. I’m just curious which stimulant(s) you tried?
Woah there! Hold on just one cotton picking minute! I have first hand experience of eating a cake made of cheese….and thinking about it, eating cheddar cheese like a cake 😂
@@welcometothewormhole Actually, icing on cheddar cheese is terrible. I know from experience. It happened the same night we decided to see what foods mixed good in vodka shots. Lol. Vodka + pickle juice = no. Vodka + gravy = no. Vodka + mustard = no. Vodka + maple syrup = yum. You prolly figured out that the icing on cheddar experiment came way after the vodka experiment.
I've been on these stimulants all my life, I swear by dextroamphetamine, it is the only one that I cannot feel any side effects from. But with medication everyone react different, dex might not be right for you. The key thing, most anything that works on the central nervous system is addictive as fuck. Coffee, nicotine, sugar, stimulants. But the adhd brain won't care, it will forget that it has an addiction so don't worry about that. However the body won't forget, it will feel that something is missing and you be lying in bed or watching youtube all day wondering why you not doing anything productive. Two-three days without meds is just fine, you get lazy. But once you hit the 5-7days your body starts to become really sick like the flu and it's so sneaky you won't notice until your spine feels like someone has their hand around it, trying to crush it. This feeling lasts for another two weeks, spinal cord feels like lava and brittle bone at the same time. The pain will spread throughout the body, skeleton and muscle pain becomes the norm. This shit is no joke, I get why meth addicts stay meth addicts. But I have a life sentence and a free prescription so it doesn't feel like an addiction, but I still know that my body is addicted to medication. There is no way around this, these are stimulants, but It's not addiction like recreational drugs. But it still feels like shit and you won't feel like fixing it either, that's the difference. The adhd brain don't care about no addiction, what addiction? The first ten years I was fine with the same dosage all the time, but as I grow older I've started to build a tolerance. End of the year I will have doubled to tripped my dosage just to get started in the morning, so now I must do tolerance breaks. I do medication break once a year, It takes about 4-5 weeks for my body to feel somewhat normal again. And then we do it all over again! this is fine! Remember to take care of your body as well.
ADHDers! If you've got a topic that you'd like to see covered, leave a comment below. I'm currently working on several interviews and videos surrounding women and girls with diagnosed and undiagnosed ADHD, and a soon-to-be-released irreverent podcast talking to ADHDers and neurodivergents. If you'd like to share your story, drop me an e-mail (e-mail address in the about page, or via the website www.welcometothewormhole.com)
Not sure what you mean by ‘leave a comment IN the description’ so will do it here: What do the developments in ADHD research in the past decade or two mean for distinguishing ADHD from (very) intellectually gifted behaviour? E.g. in order to determine whether trying medication makes sense. Things like emotional sensitivity, hyperfocus and, perfectionism are now described as typical of ADHD in a way they weren't (widely) 15 years ago. Back then they were more considered typical of gifted behaviour, whether people were 2E or not. Was this perspective wrong and actually more gifted people than anyone realised had ADHD all along and these aren’t really issues of giftedness? Or is it more a matter of this becoming even more nuanced and difficult to determine? Plus what are some differences in this respect related to gender socialisation?
Fixed - and thank you! I've copy pasted that in my notes 👍 I'm hoping to speak to someone soon who's an expert on ADHD, so questions like these will be really well received.
@@welcometothewormhole Great, thank you! Especially if they’re also experts on giftedness. Not many people cover both.
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Imagine being diagnosed at 48. And being female. Insurance doesn't cover meds, because "You can't be diagnosed as an adult, has to be as a child, and you're a girl, it's a boys thing" . So I pay out of pocket only for my Adderall. When you hear it said to you, you are ADHD, suddenly you look back and your entire life makes sense. Your vids are wonderful, especially for sharing with my neurotypical loved ones. If I can get them to watch some of these it helps. Thank you for these. Maybe others are forced to pay for meds out of pocket? I advocate for Adult ADHDers, but still insurance won't pay. Maybe an episode? Lori
I always find these arguments for ADHD meds being addictive somewhat funny (sorta as it's sad at the same time). I have to put on a timer to remind myself to take my second dose! I don't think addicts need a reminder! For me, finding out at 24 allowed me to graduate with a Computer Science degree which has gotten me quite far in my 54 years on this planet. And stimulant medication has had a role.
There was a time where I doubted using it and was off of it for too long, meaning I was struggling with all that goes with ADHD symptoms. Once I got back on them a few years back, I immediately saw a difference. And videos like this and from other ADHD channels on here helped me understand more about how ADHD works (or doesn't work).
I'm surprised at how much I never bothered to find out. I did read a lot but never about the brain chemistry and all that goes with it. So thanks for creating this video! I hope it helps others who are making a decision feel more confident either way.
There it is! I had to leave it out as I wanted to just keep it factual for this one, but considering how many times I've forgotten to order my meds, or forgotten to take them sorta gives a clue to the addictive side 😂
How did you find the assessment and treatment process 30 years ago?
Thanks Robert for taking the time to come t and share - means a lot!❤️
Yeah the due app on my phone is my nag to take my pills! 30 yrs ago it was more formal, but still similar to today. This is in the US so I’m not sure what it’s like the UK and elsewhere. But I did get the tests in both Maryland and California and both docs were in total agreement with me.
...aaaaaaand THERE it is! I was waiting for you to mention the glaring fact that untreated ADHD folks tend to fall into alcoholism. Spot on! Also, teens with untreated ADHD are more likely to start smoking/vaping.
yup! Substance abuse of pretty much any kind is a lot more common for the untreated....and even food and irregular eating. Anything for that good ol dopamine 😂 or as my friend called it - dopamining 😂 I left it out, but one very strong point too....if the meds were addictive....how come I keep forgetting to take them
Wow. Looks like they’ll let anyone in here. HIYO!
I was diagnosed age 43 with comorbid Aspergers and (as I found out for myself) dyspraxia......sure explained a LOT about my life. I confess to liking my roll-ups (making the perfect roll-up in my little machine. - oh yes, and I'm a tool and gadget freak. - ) but I can do a flight to LA from the UK which when you account for check in, security and immigration formalities at each end is about 11 or 12 hours without craving a fag.....so I'm addicted to the HABIT I think, not the nicotine so much.....I used to drink a couple or three units a day but knocked that on the head nearly 2 years ago. I tried cocaine about 40 years ago, calmed me down (!) The cannabis stops the restless leg syndrome so in a sense I'm addicted to that but on the whole I don't seem to have an addictive personality......good thing really as my career involves having regular access to controlled drugs ! But my career has made me the person I am today who can endure social interaction and - in limited circumstances - actually partake, so a fortunate choice in the end. What keeps me awake at night is - as someone SO eloquently put it - the ongoing sense of frustrating underachievement. I'm 65 now so not much can be done about that I'm afraid......
i didnt start taking my adhd medication until i was 26, its almost frustrating that i finnaly was able to see clearly so late in life. on one hand i wish i never knew how much it could help me so i didnt have to take it because ive become so dependent on it to get through my day. on the other hand its made a huge positive impact on my life, allowing me to work and function as a normal person. i dont drink or smoke weed, but i have a pretty large dependency on caffeine and nicotine as well. i wish i was diagnosed when i was younger, but at the same time i wish i never knew it exested at all, almost like that "blissfull ignorance" i was able to get this far in life without it. there are some unfortunate side effects, for me, poor hand circulation, so i often have really cold hands, and the fact that your day has to be very structured, as in wake and eat and take medication at the same time so i can sleep at night, its hard to balance. but all in all its really helped me in life.
Thanks for sharing Lambeaux! Hummmm...now thats a perspective I've never considered. For me, I was in 'blissful ignorance' until I couldn't take life anymore...I was almost out of options and if it wasn't for a video that popped up which began describing me to a t, I'm not sure where I'd be now. ❤️
@@welcometothewormhole just think about all the ways you were able to develop coping mechanisms in your life without it. its pretty impressive that people with adhd pre diagnosis are able to make it as far as we have, but i agree, at a certain point, life gets to hard, the skills that you developed to get through life stop working, and seeking help is the only option. im glad that you have found it, how long have you been taking them now? also just be careful, make sure you take sufficient tolerance breaks because some days will feel like its not as effective, but in reality its your body's serotonin and dopamine receptors that are just depleted. take your rest days when you can.
The worse part of taking ADHD medication is when I run out and have to exert executive function and try to get more
26 is still relatively young. Imagine how much more frustrating it would be to not get diagnosed until 50 plus!
I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 35ish. 35 years. My whole life I had been a professional ADHDer and didn’t even know it.
Thank god for a nice UK guy, talking about ADHD.
This is really helping me.
Thank you :)
Thanks for making these videos!!! I really appreciate how to the point and factual they are.
I think another reason that the myth of addiction gets perpetuated is that if you take away ADHD meds from a person with ADHD, they are going to be less productive, more erratic and have other "personality changes" based on an outsiders perspective, simply because they are a person with ADHD who is now unmedicated, but who the world knew as medicated. Without my meds I go back to how I was before, and I guess that might look like someone in withdrawal, but it's really just me.
So insightful, I really appreciated your balanced and thoughtful summary. Thank you so much 🎉
Getting past the fear of being or becoming "dependent" on a pill was a huge obstacle in getting help for my son. The opioid crisis surely didn't help. He takes his medication and feels such relief now, but still says he has that watchful eye in case if dependence. I think dependence means NOT having a clinical diagnosis while still being dependent on medication.
I don't know any details, but if there is a history of addiction with your son, there are some wonderful and insightful videos, lectures and research on this topic and the use of stimulant medication treatment. I'm trying to take little steps so I don't do my usual 'all or nothing' but I'm hoping soon to have the references and research page of the site sectioned off into topics like these so people can easily access this information. I'm so glad he's getting the relief he needs and deserves ❤️
I was always afraid of being dependant on a pill...I made it through grad school, earned my doctorate without taking medications
By the time I was doing my real job (physical therapist) I was so bogged down in repetitive boring oaperwork, I was starting to fail at my job. Not for lack of ability, but sheer lack of focus. I COULDN'T get myself to sit down and just do the papwrwork. It was mental agony. So I finally allowed myself to seek out a psychiatrist and start on medication.
I'm now kicking myself wondering what I could have done with my life had I been taking this medication the whole time. I can sit down and knock out two hours of paperwork. I can only imagine the grades I'd have gotten if I'd actually been able to sit and study like a normal student.
Brain is lacking in production of chemicals needed to regulate the body and mind, stimulants will fix this.
Of course a dependence will develop, it would be strange to think it would not.
But it is even more strange to think that this is a bad thing.
If he had diabetes? would you be afraid of kiddo becoming dependent on insulin?
kiddo could die without, now that is dependence for you.
Adhd people wont die without, most will do just fine.
But we could lose our jobs, lose out on education, lose out on friends, social connection and even love, hell sometimes I lose my car.
100% I have a dependence on this, but it is not a bad thing, the alternative is a joke when compared side by side.
I'm not saying people who do not use medication will not be fine in life, I'm saying it's very naive to think that developing a dependence matters, because it doesn't, you can quit any day you want, these are just stimulants, the dependency will slowly go away as you get used to being without meds.
I got diagnosed two years ago. I still haven’t gotten any meds. I’m on the end of my rope tho honestly. I’m watching this to try to motivate me to try meds because I’m so depressed right now it’s my last chance
You will develop a physical dependency (not an addiction) meaning if you were to stop the medication you would experience withdrawals if you take the correct dosage and if you need to stop taking the medication taper off (DO NOT DO IT COLD TURKEY) there is a huge misunderstanding between physical dependency on a needed medication and being addicted to said medication
I abused any drug that increased dopamine in an attempt to self medicate not knowing i had adhd once i was put on adhd medication i no longer had any desire to abuse any drug at all since my mind felt normal and balanced
I'm really enjoying all your videos. Very informative for people thinking about getting a diagnosis and trying medication for the first time. You do a good job of destigmatizing the condition and reducing anxiety about treatment. Thank you!
ADHD medication is life changing and nothing to be ashamed of. You are simply giving your brain back something it is short of! :)
Thanks so much Allison! Thats a big old hit of dopamine right there!😂
That's the bit I'm really fired up about at the moment - the stigma and shame surrounding a pretty everyday treatment. I'm not medication-centric, but I felt those were good topics to cover to kick start the discussions around all this.
Never be ashamed to do whatever you need to do to make life suck less. :)
@@welcometothewormhole I sure hope you keep getting enough dopamine from making these videos to keep going, they really are great!
I am loving your content. Every word.
ALSO! I LOVE the name of the channel. *perfection*
hehehehe - thanks Rachael! That really means a lot ❤️
Also, when testing rats, when you see a rat in a cage engage in a certain behavior, it's important to remember it's a rat in a cage. It's not a happy rat. It's going to influence their psychology and their behavior.
A rat in a cage will sit and do cocaine basically until it dies. A rat in a giant terrarium will do cocaine until it gets bored, and then it will go do something else, something rats in a cage can't do.
Summary, rats in a cage don't always translate to humans, and humans should take care not to act like rats in a cage. Go outside. Take a walk. Get out of the house.
Thanks you for these videos.
I would like to hear more about the topic of being on the med as a person with ADHD. Fx. What are the things, behaviors or challenges you still feel quite strong even on Med. Thanks in advance.
Also, I recently learned that the med (due to increasing the focus) some times take a bit of the creativity out of your mind (which is a part I truly love), why some uses the short term pill to really plan when to stay focused and get certain done and when not to, to still allow moments for the brain to go wild with innovation. What’s your experience on that?
I watch your every video. Keep making.
Thank you for these well formated subtitles
Thanks Sophie - I'm trying really hard to make things accessible. I know there's a few typos, but I've given myself a goal of trying to improve one thing with each video. Any suggestions are very much appreciated ❤️
Really useful info to have on hand, thank you
Given how many times I can forget to take my meds I'd say that at least in my case, as some mere anecdotal evidence, it's not leading to any sort of addiction at all.
Where do you go for ADHD diagnosis? Regular family practice M.D.?
The website sadly is not working anymore. :/
My adhd meds are so non addictive that I routinely forget to take them.
hehehehe - exactly!...or forget to order them...or forget that I've taken them or not 😂
Personally, someone with ADHD and Autism - the adhd meds don't work for me. I can only tolerate a low dose of an ADHD med. Unsure if that is just me or my ADHD plus Autism. I've tried the non stimulants, too and they work better than the ADHD med for me but has side effects :-/
Interesting. I am also Autistic + ADHD. Just started vyvance and was told that this is the stimulant that tends to be most helpful for Autistic ADHDers. I’m on day 4 of taking 20mg, had HUGE improvement on days 1, 2 and 3. Today I am noticing it is not doing quite as much for me but that is expected and my dose will go up to 30mg on Thursday.
I’m just curious which stimulant(s) you tried?
This rings true.
Saying that amphetamines (ADHD med) is the same as methamphetamines (meth) is like saying that cheddar cheese is the same as cheesecake. :)
Woah there! Hold on just one cotton picking minute! I have first hand experience of eating a cake made of cheese….and thinking about it, eating cheddar cheese like a cake 😂
@@welcometothewormhole I do like cake icing on my cheddar cheese.
Filth!
@@welcometothewormhole Actually, icing on cheddar cheese is terrible. I know from experience. It happened the same night we decided to see what foods mixed good in vodka shots. Lol.
Vodka + pickle juice = no.
Vodka + gravy = no.
Vodka + mustard = no.
Vodka + maple syrup = yum.
You prolly figured out that the icing on cheddar experiment came way after the vodka experiment.
Don't they use methamphetamine in some adhd meds?
Those glasses maaaaaan
Anyone else get distracted by his glasses? 🔲🔘
Not distracted but I noticed.
Stick to the dose. I over did it & am paying the price.
What do you mean by the price? Just interested.
I've been on these stimulants all my life, I swear by dextroamphetamine, it is the only one that I cannot feel any side effects from.
But with medication everyone react different, dex might not be right for you.
The key thing, most anything that works on the central nervous system is addictive as fuck.
Coffee, nicotine, sugar, stimulants.
But the adhd brain won't care, it will forget that it has an addiction so don't worry about that.
However the body won't forget, it will feel that something is missing and you be lying in bed or watching youtube all day wondering why you not doing anything productive.
Two-three days without meds is just fine, you get lazy.
But once you hit the 5-7days your body starts to become really sick like the flu and it's so sneaky you won't notice until your spine feels like someone has their hand around it, trying to crush it.
This feeling lasts for another two weeks, spinal cord feels like lava and brittle bone at the same time.
The pain will spread throughout the body, skeleton and muscle pain becomes the norm.
This shit is no joke, I get why meth addicts stay meth addicts.
But I have a life sentence and a free prescription so it doesn't feel like an addiction, but I still know that my body is addicted to medication.
There is no way around this, these are stimulants, but It's not addiction like recreational drugs.
But it still feels like shit and you won't feel like fixing it either, that's the difference.
The adhd brain don't care about no addiction, what addiction?
The first ten years I was fine with the same dosage all the time, but as I grow older I've started to build a tolerance.
End of the year I will have doubled to tripped my dosage just to get started in the morning, so now I must do tolerance breaks.
I do medication break once a year, It takes about 4-5 weeks for my body to feel somewhat normal again.
And then we do it all over again! this is fine!
Remember to take care of your body as well.