All: Just to clarify, these radios DO NOT contain any US military cryptographic technology. They contain exportable crypto like AES256 same as your web browser and Citadel which is "exportable". If these radios were the AN/PRC-160, AN/PRC-150 or AN/PRC-117G then that would be bad. But these are not. They are NATO/Civilian versions, RF-7800H, RF-5800H and RF-7800M. These are fully legal to own in the US. Of course, I could not ship them outside of the US as that would be a violation of ITAR (without the correct paperwork). I hope this clears things up. Read more here: www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/falcon-iii-rf-7800h-mp-wideband-hf-vhf-manpack-radio www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/harris/citadel/index.htm www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/harris/rf5811/files/citadel_leaflet.pdf
Nice Haul !!! Great condition. I was on the (L3)Harris Falcon II and Falcon III teams that wrote DSP code, FPGA code and crypto code for many different Wide band and narrow band voice and data waveforms on all 3 of those radios plus the VHF radios for 12 years up until 5 years ago. These must be the export-safe crypto versions not the CCI type 1 ITAR crypto versions or they have cheater crypto cards which completely bypass an actual crypto. In any event, it will be fun watching videos of you operating these. Enjoy !
Pros = Rugged, most likely water proof and EMP shielded, versatile and easy to use (for the most part) Cons = Proprietary and protected to some degree making it expensive and hard to get parts, software and certain info on.
Unless you're in the military, and then it's just a requisition away. (not counting clearance requirements.) Or a contractor who has to deal with them. (again, non-classified docs)
Very interesting! Thank you. 🙂 I used to help look after Harris broadcast transmitters and associated equipment, back in the days of the Harris Intertype Corporation. Pretty rugged gear, with some design features which tested our abilities and sense of humor from time to time! It's good to see Harris continuing, and turning out products of such high caliber. Are these radios designed to be serviced in theater?
Hello! thanks for the comments. Yes Harris is famous for their broadcast transmitters. Very well-respected manufacturer. I dont think these radios are designed to be serviced in-theater. I think they go back to harris.
Love your Green radio vids!!!! May I ask, what is the color code in RAL for example of this batch of Harris radios? Might it be RAL6003???? I understand it's CARC quality but the sheen of the color is quite amazing in various light conditions.
I was a radio guy in the Marines, got out last October. Where you get this shit from? Wish I could get ahold of a 152 or a AN/PRC-160 but obviously that’s way outta the question lol
No kidding? Thanks for the comment. RF-310M-HH radios (nato equiv of the 152) are on the surplus market from time to time for about $3K. Keep an eye out on ebay. Good luck and thanks again for the comment.
Very nice haul of radios. I'm a ham also and would love to have one of the RF-7800H for HF use. Have searched on the net for some time and have not seen anything like this batch of radios for sale. So I just emailed Harris asking if it's possible to purchase new directly from them for Ham use. Why not ask LOL So let's see what they reply. I'll post the reply here when I receive it. Can't even guess at what the price would be if they would sell to me... 73 K1KSC
Hi John. Yes these are VERY rare on the surplus market. Some are starting to come out of Afghanistan that were "left" there. Harris does not sell to individuals and even if you are a company it is VERY difficult to get an account with them (read impossible). So all we can do is pray to find more on the surplus market. Thanks for the comments!
Some people would give one finger to have one of these! Congratulations mate! It is great that people like you share such a collection. Thank you Eugene
Can you tell me about the longevity of LCD displays in Harris equipment? From personal Hamfest experience commercial/amateur equipment from the 70s/80s era with LCD displays is often unusable. The displays "dry out"? I guess spares might be available, but Harris are unlikely to stock spares for equipment no longer actively used by commercial/military customers... I. wonder about the longevity of modern equipment using TFT and oled displays as well... Replacing caps in vintage equipment is one thing, but LCD displays...
I don't think I've ever seen a bad LCD or have one go bad on a piece of harris equipment. But I dont put these through the rigors of combat so I can't be certain. The only thing I can say is some of the older harris LCD equipment (80's-90s') used EL backlighting instead of LED and sometimes those backlights get dim. Otherwise I've been pleased with how the LCDs hold up. 73
Please please please can you do a video of the two 7800-H's doing ALE-2G and ALE-3G? I would REALLY love to see how ALE is configured on the radio itself.
@@w2hx Thank you very much! I'm working on an open source firmware for the Xiegu G90 HF radio, and ALE-2G is one of the features I want to bring to the firmware. Seeing how ALE is configured on the Harris rigs would be INVALUABLE for designing the user interface.
These are NATO radios, not US military radios. For example the RF-7800H is the NATO version of the US military radio AN/PRC-160. The RF-5800H is the NATO equivalent of the AN/PRC-150.The NATO versions of the encryption they contain is COTS encryption like AES256, something every web browser contains. Therefore these are legal to own. thanks for the question!
Nice radios. Military guy here, I have plenty time using all of these. Many hours using the 150 in 3G+. Did these come from Afghanistan? Only place I can imagine these coming from right now
@@w2hx in any case, cool toys. The jump from the 150 to the 160 is pretty insane. I would love to own my own for ham use but will have to settle for work use only!
Is it Christmas already ? 😬I have been collecting military radios and aircraft instruments for years, prices have been going up and up, on ebay at least. Back if the 2000's I was able to get incredible deals, down to 1 euro for a nice item ! Nowadays getting good prices is really difficult, requires patience and hours of tedious browsing of ebay categories, to find the cheap item poorly described, placed in the wrong category, and sold by someone who found it in grand pa's garage and just wants to get rid of it.
For amateur use, probably not other than durability which you mentioned. But I (and others) have a strong interest in military communications technology which is the appeal of these radios. But they are very rugged, unlike amateur equipment. 73
@@geckoproductions4128only people who don’t have money says stuff like that. I ask out of curiosity because I have worked with those radios for 15 years in the army and didn’t think they were available for civilians. I’m not asking because I’m looking for a radio at Walmart price lol.
You'll be ready to communicate during Armageddon, but I plan on leaving with my uppertaker prior to then. Have fun with the Zombies. My FT-857D radios will do the job until then. I do understand the appeal of military gear, but I find them too constraining and less organic than portable amateur radio gear. If your radios haven't been neutered too bad you could have fun mesh networking fairly easily. Perhaps a remote controlled zombie killing Armageddon battle wagon. If there is every a manmade EMP event, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy hanging around. Have fun!
@@w2hx ok thanks. I have the adapter for the antenna that folds like tent poles. I guess I just need the large diameter from the radio reducer so I can run the cable?
These radio's are too cool. Could you tell me how much I could expect to pay for a 5800 or 7800 if able to find? Also, what about encryption? Would we be able to still operate these within the Amateur Bands or are there things we would have to modify for use? Thanks as these videos were very entertaining as was the amazing video of your shack with all those other military type rigs. 73's and thanks for any info. Never saw these b4 your vids.
yes these operate in the ham bands. the HF radios cover 1.5 MHz to 60 MHz inclusive with no gaps. They support USB, LSB, CW, AME and FM. Nothing needed other than a mic and antenna!
@@w2hx I see. What “Waveforms”(which I assume is a fancy term for what we in the amateur world call “Modes”, which I assume is a stack of protocols) would these radios use for networking? Do these waveforms use special networking protocols or do they just plop the IP stack above layer 1?
@@w2hx I see! Very interesting! Never thought military spec networking waveforms use IP… I thought they’d use some black magic. Also, what networking waveforms do these radios support? I’ve heard of ANW or something like that.
All: Just to clarify, these radios DO NOT contain any US military cryptographic technology. They contain exportable crypto like AES256 same as your web browser and Citadel which is "exportable". If these radios were the AN/PRC-160, AN/PRC-150 or AN/PRC-117G then that would be bad. But these are not. They are NATO/Civilian versions, RF-7800H, RF-5800H and RF-7800M. These are fully legal to own in the US. Of course, I could not ship them outside of the US as that would be a violation of ITAR (without the correct paperwork). I hope this clears things up. Read more here:
www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/falcon-iii-rf-7800h-mp-wideband-hf-vhf-manpack-radio
www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/harris/citadel/index.htm
www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/harris/rf5811/files/citadel_leaflet.pdf
do they use the same connection ends as the standard version?
@@redred333Yes! You can use the standard U-229 family of accessories.
But in Jesus Christ name, how did you manage to get 7800MMP and 7850MHH??
Nice Haul !!! Great condition. I was on the (L3)Harris Falcon II and Falcon III teams that wrote DSP code, FPGA code and crypto code for many different Wide band and narrow band voice and data waveforms on all 3 of those radios plus the VHF radios for 12 years up until 5 years ago. These must be the export-safe crypto versions not the CCI type 1 ITAR crypto versions or they have cheater crypto cards which completely bypass an actual crypto. In any event, it will be fun watching videos of you operating these. Enjoy !
I'd love to get in contact with you. do you have a call sign?
Loved that HPW and Harris SA mode!
@@MrOldManP It seems you have some first hand experience. Let us know more about your experience with these modes!
shhhh the enemy is watching!
@@MrOldManP
Привет! очень приятно видеть таких людей здесь!
Envy..... I feel only envy !!!! Congratulations
This is fantastic!!! Your collection is envy-inducing.
thanks!
Great content, and beautiful kit.. Freedom On.
Great job on the unboxing don't have a clue what was unboxed just into unboxing and just had to say nice job unboxing those green things 👍✌️
I was a Commo soldier through most of the 90s.
I loooove this!
Cool! Thanks for your service. Lots of other vids on my channel that might interest you. Have a look around!
That’s some cool stuff and in really good condition
I hope those packages were insured. A LOT!!!!
Where did you buy them? And how much did the cost?
Nice collection mil radio... TNX
Super score my friend, good for you!
Thanks 👍
That was fun. Christmas in August
wow nice haul my friend!
what do those used military radios cost?
Pros = Rugged, most likely water proof and EMP shielded, versatile and easy to use (for the most part)
Cons = Proprietary and protected to some degree making it expensive and hard to get parts, software and certain info on.
Agreed on all points
Unless you're in the military, and then it's just a requisition away. (not counting clearance requirements.) Or a contractor who has to deal with them. (again, non-classified docs)
OMG Can't wait to see this beautiful hardware in action. 73
Very interesting! Thank you. 🙂
I used to help look after Harris broadcast transmitters and associated equipment, back in the days of the Harris Intertype Corporation. Pretty rugged gear, with some design features which tested our abilities and sense of humor from time to time! It's good to see Harris continuing, and turning out products of such high caliber.
Are these radios designed to be serviced in theater?
Hello! thanks for the comments. Yes Harris is famous for their broadcast transmitters. Very well-respected manufacturer. I dont think these radios are designed to be serviced in-theater. I think they go back to harris.
How do I buy one US vet
I have to ask… where/how did you come across these?
They are on sale on the internet from time to time. Not on ebay.
@@hene193 Could you specify me where we could locate some used stuff like that?? It will be for education pourposes. Thanks in advance.
Love your Green radio vids!!!! May I ask, what is the color code in RAL for example of this batch of Harris radios? Might it be RAL6003????
I understand it's CARC quality but the sheen of the color is quite amazing in various light conditions.
@@user-ro3mn5eb9d sorry I have no idea :(
They fell off a truck.
Pretty cool, my PRC-138 is looking like a dinosaur next to these guys. What a score.
I have a nice PRC-138. It was my first love :) and still a fan favorite.
I was a radio guy in the Marines, got out last October. Where you get this shit from? Wish I could get ahold of a 152 or a AN/PRC-160 but obviously that’s way outta the question lol
No kidding? Thanks for the comment. RF-310M-HH radios (nato equiv of the 152) are on the surplus market from time to time for about $3K. Keep an eye out on ebay. Good luck and thanks again for the comment.
Very nice haul of radios. I'm a ham also and would love to have one of the RF-7800H for HF use. Have searched on the net for some time and have not seen anything like this batch of radios for sale. So I just emailed Harris asking if it's possible to purchase new directly from them for Ham use. Why not ask LOL So let's see what they reply. I'll post the reply here when I receive it. Can't even guess at what the price would be if they would sell to me... 73 K1KSC
Hi John. Yes these are VERY rare on the surplus market. Some are starting to come out of Afghanistan that were "left" there. Harris does not sell to individuals and even if you are a company it is VERY difficult to get an account with them (read impossible). So all we can do is pray to find more on the surplus market. Thanks for the comments!
Some people would give one finger to have one of these! Congratulations mate! It is great that people like you share such a collection. Thank you Eugene
@@Radiogenes Thanks! I watch your channel too! You've got some real gems!
That is a great haul!
Think I'd seen one of these units in the movie 13 Hours.
I'll check it out!
Can you tell me about the longevity of LCD displays in Harris equipment? From personal Hamfest experience commercial/amateur equipment from the 70s/80s era with LCD displays is often unusable. The displays "dry out"? I guess spares might be available, but Harris are unlikely to stock spares for equipment no longer actively used by commercial/military customers... I. wonder about the longevity of modern equipment using TFT and oled displays as well... Replacing caps in vintage equipment is one thing, but LCD displays...
I don't think I've ever seen a bad LCD or have one go bad on a piece of harris equipment. But I dont put these through the rigors of combat so I can't be certain. The only thing I can say is some of the older harris LCD equipment (80's-90s') used EL backlighting instead of LED and sometimes those backlights get dim. Otherwise I've been pleased with how the LCDs hold up. 73
How did you buy a lot like this? Was this through an auction house? Thanks
Please please please can you do a video of the two 7800-H's doing ALE-2G and ALE-3G? I would REALLY love to see how ALE is configured on the radio itself.
you got it! Subscribe so you can be sure to be alerted when I do vids on the radios individually
@@w2hx Thank you very much! I'm working on an open source firmware for the Xiegu G90 HF radio, and ALE-2G is one of the features I want to bring to the firmware. Seeing how ALE is configured on the Harris rigs would be INVALUABLE for designing the user interface.
@@sypher4912send me your email.
@@w2hx Do you have a way I can send it to you?
KI0PF loves this stuff.
I know! I havent heard anything from Mark in many years. I hope he's well. Send him the link!
@@w2hx You lucked out on this haul. I hope you didn't give up a kidney.
You forgot to add the ubiquitous AN/PRC-77 in the naughty list.
indeed! A venerable radio for sure.
What did that set you back? Is that from govx?
How did you buy radio with encryption capability private party? Government Planet doesn't sell them.
These are NATO radios, not US military radios. For example the RF-7800H is the NATO version of the US military radio AN/PRC-160. The RF-5800H is the NATO equivalent of the AN/PRC-150.The NATO versions of the encryption they contain is COTS encryption like AES256, something every web browser contains. Therefore these are legal to own. thanks for the question!
So what do you do with those units? Do you get them back in working order and use them for some type of ham application?
Add a battery and antenna you're on the air. Yes ham application!
Curious if you learned all this casually? Or from the service?
No, I've never served. I've just been a Harris fanboy for 20 years so I've learned over the years
Pretty sweet
Nice radios. Military guy here, I have plenty time using all of these. Many hours using the 150 in 3G+.
Did these come from Afghanistan? Only place I can imagine these coming from right now
There are radios coming out of Afghanistan these days for sure (and asking $$$$$), but these did not, these came from the US. Thanks for the comments!
@@w2hx in any case, cool toys. The jump from the 150 to the 160 is pretty insane. I would love to own my own for ham use but will have to settle for work use only!
@@spencerhurley8359 check out this vid th-cam.com/video/PRJPjxuk3x0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BEyEw75L1nZN69Um
I am working on getting radios for my 2012 M1151A1 HMMWV and would love to get your help
thanks for the comments, but I doubt I would be much help. I've never owned a HMMWV!
Is it Christmas already ? 😬I have been collecting military radios and aircraft instruments for years, prices have been going up and up, on ebay at least. Back if the 2000's I was able to get incredible deals, down to 1 euro for a nice item ! Nowadays getting good prices is really difficult, requires patience and hours of tedious browsing of ebay categories, to find the cheap item poorly described, placed in the wrong category, and sold by someone who found it in grand pa's garage and just wants to get rid of it.
Mmmm lovely CARC.
Hello Mr., really greats military devices. How can I buy it from NATO? I´m from Brazil. Regards.
No, NATO doesn't sell equipment. You just have to wait for these to appear on the surplus markets. Good luck.
Where did you purchase these radios?
Hi! Do these stations have any advantage over modern amateur radio stations, with the exception of durability?
For amateur use, probably not other than durability which you mentioned. But I (and others) have a strong interest in military communications technology which is the appeal of these radios. But they are very rugged, unlike amateur equipment. 73
Where did you buy all this Nato stuff at?
Sergei in Ukraine
Where do you find these types of radios . I live in the USA. I own prc-113 and a r-2322/g. Looking for a prc 117
Various sources. 113 and GRC-215 are cool radios! I used to have a 215 you can see vids on my channel
Amazing! What would radios like that typically cost if you find them online? (not asking about what you gave but in general)
not sure, really
With these radios, if you gotta ask, you can't afford it.........seriously!
@@geckoproductions4128only people who don’t have money says stuff like that. I ask out of curiosity because I have worked with those radios for 15 years in the army and didn’t think they were available for civilians. I’m not asking because I’m looking for a radio at Walmart price lol.
You'll be ready to communicate during Armageddon, but I plan on leaving with my uppertaker prior to then. Have fun with the Zombies.
My FT-857D radios will do the job until then.
I do understand the appeal of military gear, but I find them too constraining and less organic than portable amateur radio gear.
If your radios haven't been neutered too bad you could have fun mesh networking fairly easily. Perhaps a remote controlled zombie killing Armageddon battle wagon.
If there is every a manmade EMP event, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy hanging around.
Have fun!
For the zombie apocalypse, check out this series on situational awareness th-cam.com/play/PLM5RUkrumB5HtbGOG4HIO_c_fw19t4R9M.html
Hey hows it going. I have a question about a radio I have. Iys a demilled prc-150 and I was wondering if I could get civilian boards to install in it?
I would say no. The likelihood of finding a set of boards is nearly zero at this time. Sorry
Bummer. I figured that. Do you know if it is possible to go to Harris directly or would that be ridiculously expensive?
@@lowsniper1 No. Harris won't deal with individuals. And even most companies they won't deal with.
How much did you pay and where you get from by chance sir
Hey can I ask you a questiion? What is the antenna cable I need for a 5800V? Thank you.
You can use a standard 50 ohm BNC cable for manpacks and a standard TNC cable for handhelds. Good luck!
@@w2hx ok thanks. I have the adapter for the antenna that folds like tent poles. I guess I just need the large diameter from the radio reducer so I can run the cable?
@@lowsniper1 many available on ebay. Search for "harris antenna adapter"
Great video...👍
Congrats, awesome unboxing! de AL9G
Bro that`s some cool and expensive radio`s, where do you buy stuff like that?? eBay?
I have my sources hihi
@@w2hx very mature, even my 8 year old is mature enough to not hold up a candy and go nanner nanner nanner... you're pathetic.
@@w2hx most likely came from overseas, i would bet on it.
@@mattottie6410a lot of this NATO gear is, indeed, coming from Afghanistan etc. But, believe it or not, this came from the good ol' US of A.
These radio's are too cool. Could you tell me how much I could expect to pay for a 5800 or 7800 if able to find? Also, what about encryption? Would we be able to still operate these within the Amateur Bands or are there things we would have to modify for use? Thanks as these videos were very entertaining as was the amazing video of your shack with all those other military type rigs. 73's and thanks for any info. Never saw these b4 your vids.
5800s around $7k-8k, 7800H around $13-$15K
yes these operate in the ham bands. the HF radios cover 1.5 MHz to 60 MHz inclusive with no gaps. They support USB, LSB, CW, AME and FM. Nothing needed other than a mic and antenna!
Oh wow!!! Way too expensive but they are so neat. Thanks for your quick reply and enjoy all those beauties!!! 73's again
Do these radios have layer 3 networking capability?
Absolutely. They also have some wideband modes for better throughput.
@@w2hx I see. What “Waveforms”(which I assume is a fancy term for what we in the amateur world call “Modes”, which I assume is a stack of protocols) would these radios use for networking? Do these waveforms use special networking protocols or do they just plop the IP stack above layer 1?
@@AliBaba-vw7mo IP all the way. Very easy to turn them into IP routers. The data link layer is where they can use their special data modes.
@@w2hx I see! Very interesting! Never thought military spec networking waveforms use IP… I thought they’d use some black magic. Also, what networking waveforms do these radios support? I’ve heard of ANW or something like that.
Nice radio I own a 7800 h
No kidding? What is your callsign? I'm good in QRZ contact me.
what price will it be? I been looking to own one of the Falcon RF-5800H
Not for sale :(
@@w2hx where can I find one?
@@computerarena701Same aisle as the hens teeth :)
@@w2hx well, in other words I will not be able to find one lol
Cons: The cheapest mil-spec connector costs $100.
Yes from the mfg, but there are tons of cables on the market for like $20-$50 for whatever you might need. check ebay.
Very nice haul! 73's🎙KD9OAM🎧
where is a good place. to look for some rigs like this, ??
My youtube channel, of course! hihi
What does carc stand for?
Chemical Agent Resistant Coating
How do you find these?
@greg6459 just 20 years of collecting you build a network of suppliers
@@w2hx Understood. (Jealousy incoming...)
Cost a little more than a UV-5r hi-hi
wHAT IS THE PRICE OF AN EACH?
When did you become a NATO member, Eugene? lol
I'm in line right after Finland and Sweden.
Okay... got Covid...Again!... moving on!....
How did you find these?
Patience and luck.
@@w2hx well you're one lucky bastard
Looks like seller had access to the Harris warehouse……..
you'd be surprised what is starting to come onto the surplus market
hello, my Friend !! tell me please, where can I buy transceiver Harris for satCom ?
😍😍😍😍😍😍
👍👍👍🏆🏆🏆
I have the 7800 h 12:22
Don,t ask were he got them and how much they cost, he will never say, but i can most likely say they came from overseas.... i would bet... Israel??
Life is not fair at all...
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MADE IN USA 😢
indeed! But why the sad crying face? This is the real stuff not the Chinese copies.
No microphones. Useless. Unuseable.
funny!
Am finne this in Polonia who come from Ucraina can buy for about 500 evro Nice equipment