Robert, thanks so much for doing this video and thanks to the whole Fully Charged team. Fantastic work as always and what a wonderfully produced video even lacking the mounting equipment for the cameras. I actually prefer the feel of hand held in this video over the static mounted cams.
@Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown Oh man, please do a bit of home work :), everything is other way around. Radar can see through snow, fog and rain. Lidar can't as it operates close to visible wavelength. Physics never gets "old", radar is perfect for what Tesla is using it. Watch Tesla autonomy day to get a bit of understanding.
@Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown: I guess future will tell, but the present would tend to disagree with you. Lidar is multiple times more expensive and it is yet to prove it adds anything meaningful to a setup like what Teslas are already equipped with. Please check Tesla's FSD Analyst day (a few days ago) which addresses this very subject.
Nick Antipin you don’t Actually think he’s missed the Tesla autonomy thing do you? Nobody comes out of nowhere talking about Lidar, not a coincidence just a troll
I was taken for a test ride in one at a EV Show in Montréal exactly a year ago today. The owner and driver was an ex racing man who thew it silently around the Autoroute like a Go-Kart, I can understand why Robert was impressed. The model 3 is an investment in so many ways !
Also, the Mod 3 will just become better with age ; over the air updates, and, it’s now being produced with the hardware for autonomous driving, Robotaxi compliant, etc .
@@waynerussell6401 Yes, thank you. The Model 3 is built just like many steel frame contemporary cars. The new 3-series BMW for example: www.repairerdrivennews.com/2018/10/03/2019-bmw-3-series-has-aluminum-hood-and-fenders-slew-of-possible-tech/
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I came from BMW’s (including the M3), to a Leaf to the Model 3 and have put 25,000 miles on my Tesla and it is without a doubt the most brilliant car I’ve owned. Perfect? No, but in day to day use it is unbeatable. From picking up the kids at school to 3,000 mi cross country journeys, it has worked beautifully and is simultaneously calming and exciting to be in.
Paul Carpenter, could you elaborate. What aspect of Model 3 do you prefer over the BMW? Is it just electronics or software stuff, or even more traditional car stuff? I am just trying to understand how Tesla is doing in traditional car technology vs software. I mean we know Tesla is way ahead on software/electronics. But it is more unclear to me how they do the other things.
@@erikengheim1106 I do not own a Tesla. But I've heard from some Model 3 owners who previously owned either BMW 3 series, Audi A4, or Mercedez Benz C Class, and they all pointed out that the Model 3 is just as good (and better in some ways). Everyone seems to love how that car drives. I'm hoping to have a test drive soon, in order to discover for myself.
@@erikengheim1106 - LR AWD, it feels like you are driving a part of the future, or more likely you have come back in time and just driving around with everyone in dino juice combustion engines, huffing, puffing,, when I look under the hood in our other car I can't believe all the gubbins and stuff, it's so complex and just looks ancient!! This car is a different beast, it's got a much much simpler drivetrain, which feels way more solid in it's tolerances. There is no starting it, yes everything works via the screen, but it feels completely intuitive as it's like an extension of your smartphone, the screen is big, informative and fast. The car feels super solid, tight, silent. The acceleration is just amazing, you basically have supercar (in powerband) instant pulling power, no noise, no fuss, 4x traction, if you're merging onto a road and a car is trying to block you, you just move forward in front of it, it's like they are in slow motion, I used to have this experience on motorbikes, but I would still need to be in my powerband, that's what this car feels like a decent motorbike in it's powerband (Supersports bikes now, will leave basically any tesla in the dust, but they will huff n puff a lot to do it)...So the instant speed is super addictive, but also the one foot driving, as soon as you let off the throttle (this is dynamic, based on how much you release) the car slows down rapidly, this is charging the battery, the regen is strong, it's like 50-90% braking in normal driving, you can drive with more confidence because you don't need to switch your foot, you just release and the car slows down rapidly. The car sticks to the road, it's very stable, and you can power through corners, it will handle the torque split. The other I'm loving is the efficiency as I get older I care more about this, and this car driven normally is just really efficient, can get below 200Wh/mi (which would be 375 miles on a full charge) - it's definitely possible to hit the 310 or more in normal driving, but it's hard to not have fun with it, so those numbers will drop if you're going fast. So you're driving this silent, instant fast and very simple regen brakes, solid machine. We're raving about it, because it's like nothing we have experienced, it's really a part of the future available now....I agree with adage, 'Beware driving a Tesla, it will ruin ICE cars forever'
how do you feel about the auto pilot tho ? the way he explained it in the end of the video that it is scared of truks and sometimes suddenly brakes whilst overtaking :O that sounds like waiting for a crash to me
@@iihoipoiii I've never experienced anything like that driving my Tesla, keep in mind if for some reason 1 out of the 500,000 teslas does that an over the air update would fix it.
I paused the video to get a drink and was disappointed to see that there was only a minute left. Fantastic, as usual. Always a joy to watch, thank you gents!
Some of the features take time to learn. Windshield wipers, AP, and the miles/Kwh. As the car learns your driving habits, it will get amazing accurate. Mine is to one mile now on every trip.
Robert keeps mentioning how the Autopilot is better than on Model S, but it's only better than HIS Model S. Newer Model S/Xs have the same Autopilot as Model 3.
Autopilot on 2019.12 has 2 distinct advantages that what you see here. no 1 the ghost braking, or behaving like a nervous horse, has gone. no 2 you only need to touch the indicator once and it will complete the full lane change, you don't need to hold it down and it wont serve back. Worth remembering that Robert's MS has AP1 not AP2.5 that is almost certainly in this car.
I still like my AP1 in my Model S better than AP2.5 in my wife's X. AP1 is smoother, not as jerky. AP2.5 seems like it's trying too hard to stay centered in within the lines. If the lines are painted sloppily as is common where I live, the AP2.5 micromanages too much. I'm sure it will get better with time. That last statement is one that you can only say about Tesla. Every other car is sold and forgotten by the manufacturer.
Happy to hear you explain that as I have an old 2008 BMW 650i with one of the first "smart speed pilots" and it's over-breaking to an extent where I've just given up using it. Was beginning to fear auto pilot would be more of the same. Thanks again.
Aside from the minor inaccuracies (which is kind of Fully Charge's trade mark) a great video. Something so relaxing about Robert's voice, the music and the camera work. Love you guys and love this channel.
Indeed. It's front-facing RADAR. As Elon Musk said at the recent autonomy talk, LIDAR cannot see through rain and even in bad conditions (snow, rain) vision is good enough for humans, so therefore it's only a matter of time before machine learning can do the same job of reading the road in poor visibility. Why only at the front? As Elon said: "It's the direction in which you move the fastest."
Well done xordinary, you spotted our deliberate mistake. We know our viewers are very smart so we put these little tests in to see if you're paying attention. ;) (Thanks for the correction!)
@@GregRobsonUK It is right Musk said that, but I already had a university professor and a vehicular automation grad student disagree firmly with that assertion. LIDAR does enable the car to gain additional information over simple cameras due to the properties of laser light and can also do a lot of the things cameras do with a lot less computing power, saving costs in other areas. Also the argument "Humans drive with just two eyes, therefore cameras are sufficient" does not hold while the cameras used are vastly inferior to a human eye. I would accept it if the cameras could change focal lengths and angles. But then they would be just as expensive as laser scanners and require more computing power on top.
Just when one starts to feel a tad jaded... yeah ok, another Model 3 test drive - Robert comes along and gives us the definitive video of being in a Tesla M3. It's not just the acceleration, it's not just the speed and refinement, it's the feel. This is as close as I have felt to actually sitting in the passenger seat. I totally got the fact that he wanted to hate it, or at least dislike it a bit. Yet after driving the best car he has ever had for 4 years he jumps in this one and 10 minutes later it's the new favourite. And I now understand why. 👍 Great, great video. Well done team.
I do love the promotion of electric vehicles and the incredible quality of the content on this channel, been following for a long time, but my favourite thing by far is still Robert's hilarious childish humour and his impressions. Super silly and super lovable. Great video!
For owning a Tesla there are a few things you should know based on your comments, but hey, I had to lookup how to engage auto pilot in the 3 too! 1. Push the turnsignal stock all the way down and it will complete the lane change on its own and turn off the blinker appropriately. You don't actually have to hold it. 2. the reason you arrived with a different range estimate, is that is based on a rating scale, not your actual trip. The trip screen would have shown you much closer too accurate arrival range. That's why that's there, so you don't have to think about how you're doing, you can simply look down and see how much you're going to use to get to your destination, and if you have round trip estimate turned on you can see that too. 3. Also of note the performance 3 does not have the aero wheels that increase highway efficiency. As always, thanks for the great video and gorgeous scenes from the Nordic areas!
@@fullychargedshow Looking forward to that as that electric ferry has been delayed numerous times and it's hard to find anything current about it. I use it every time I'm back in Denmark and I'm looking forward to try the EV version.
Okay, and how do you love the tiny rearview mirror? The dorky plasti-wooden dash? The horribly placed screen and unreachable homelink? the leaky tire valves? the cheap black fuzz in the cargo area? The cheap looking hubcaps? The way the rain comes straight into the car any time the window is cracked?
Really appreciate your work Robert and crew. You guys are the gold standard in professionalism in terms of conduct, content and the polish of the production. Well done and I will look forward to your next video as always.
Amazing video Robert, great to see the M3 gradually expanding across Europe. Just a quick correction, at 9:45 you mention Lidar being used, it is in fact Radar used in Teslas, as Elon is very against Lidar (expensive, and waste of money on vehicles).
The reason Musk is against lidar tech is not the expense, but information density of lidar-sensored data. The fact that cameras are cheaper and more robust is just a bonus really
@@mojpismonosa Pretty much what I mean, Lidar relative to Cameras (in terms of money) is a no brainer. To produce a mass fleet of autonomous yet affordable cars (like Tesla is doing), it would be stupid to not use cameras and perfect the computer vision side of it.
Been shopping for a few years for an EV for myself (We bought a Bolt when it came out and my daughter bought a used Leaf last year). I shopped the Leaf, the Jaguar, the Korean offerings and was paying close attention to VW Group's concepts, particularly the Mission E and the e-trons. Everybody was compared to Tesla. Everybody. The 'Next Tesla Beater' in every hype package and youtube video. Tesla. Tesla. Tesla. So I bought a Model 3 Performance and haven't looked back. Best car I have owned as a total package. I traded in a Macan GTS.
The research that you guys are doing for your videos is top notch. Your info videos, are getting better and better, and so to is that subscriber count. Well done, keep it up
Worth noting, whenever Robert says 'the model S' it should be 'my model S'. A new model S bought today will have the exact same hardware and software (like autopilot) as a new model 3.
Thank you Robert for a well produced and informative presentation as usual. It was a pleasure to meet you many years ago at a SciFi convention. I am lucky to be an owner of an Ioniq which seems to do everything the Model 3 does.
"Secure" is certainly not a word often used to describe a car's handling, but this just shows what a game changer the Tesla 3 is. I merely drove one on a vacation out in San Francisco. Picking it up in town my wife and I headed down to Carmel/Monterey. There are both absolutely spectacular views, and spectacular opportunities to go sailing off the road and way down to the Pacific. So, the specific solidity, the instant-direct steering, the "just let off the gas and it slows way down" means you feel more connected to the Tesla than any car I've driven. And, for reference, my car is a VW Golf 1.8T with full Bilstein B8, lowering springs, 18" Michelin Pilot Sport tired beauty. But the Tesla, impresses more. It's that good.
The range indicater is rated range not actual range. Predicted range is on a different screen when you put it into the navigation it will tell you how much %of battery when arriving at the superchargers or destination with much accuracy. basically that is just showing you what percent of battery you have left
Test drove the performance 3 last weekend and can not understand why everyone originally complained about where the speedometer was. It's literally right there! You can read it through your peripheral vision. Easy. Loved it.
Robert, "this car is built to be fully autonomous , I still have my doubts about the sense the need and the complexity of that task" Well as someone who is registered blind I can see the need for it quite well. Full level 5 is probably still quite a way off , but I hope, years rather than decades.
One good reason for full autonomy: road deaths. I look forward to my grandchildren (don’t have any yet) being astonished to hear that there used to be car crashes on the “olden days”.
@@michaelfink64 quite agree , a lot has already been done to reduce road deaths by making "crashing" safer, seatbelts, airbags etc. But there is a limit to what that can do.
Also in this week's fully charged podcast, Robert said that autonomy would only be used to Summon cars for car sharing services , so we are going to have the insane situation were you can walk out of a pub after 6 pints, use your phone to callup an autonomous car and then drive it home "manually" while massively over the drink drive limit.
@@michaelfink64 unfortunately there will always be accidents no matter how clever the cars get. People and animals run onto roads for example, or cars malfunctioning. Nothing is infallible.
@@bigboldbicycle true, but road RTCs still kill about 2 to 3 thousand people each year in the UK. Yes, relative to the number of miles driven the number killed has fallen since the 80s , mainly due to seatbelts, airbags and improved car design. I feel that autonomy will be the next stage. As far as those of us with reduced vision are concerned , i have lost count of the number of job ads I have seen were the only thing stopping me doing the job was the requirement to be able to drive.
after watching many reviews on the Model 3 I really got to say and appreciate the quality of this video! Great review, amazing camera control (by hand!) and pristine 4k quality! WOW. Thx!!!
Fun to watch this review after a few years. It’s still spot on. And I say that as somebody who bought a Model 3 about the same time this video came out.
When I first drove a Model 3 in late 2017 I got that uh-oh feeling that indicates that my bank account is going to take a hit. My 2013 Model S was amazing, and so much better than any ICE, but driving the Model 3 I immediately knew that I wanted one, a very rare thing for me. It took 9 months for a lightly used Module 3 to show up. I still love it unconditionally 7 months later!. It seems that I too can’t help being a Tesla fan boy. Thanks for the great review, and just because someone needs to point it out, we only have 8 cameras, not 12. 🤣 It seems 8 is enough.
It was a pleasure to "follow" you on your ride to Oslo, sitting in my homeoffice in Santiago de Chile ..really amazing car and new form of driving, indeed. - Top quality review, thanks for sharing..!
Although it may be nowadays unfamiliar to have the speedometer in the middle, that’s where it often used to be in the past. I drove an original Austin Mini in the early seventies and the speedo was a big dial low down in the middle. I seem to remember that the Morris Minor had the speedo in the middle of the dash too.
The original Toyota Yaris had a low, center-of-the-dash speed gauge, too. I rented one once. On my way out of the airport rentals lot, I thought to myself: "I'm going to get a speeding ticket in this slow, little car." Sure enough, on my way back to the airport, on a highway with narrow shoulders beside deep ditches, I kept my eyes on the road instead of watching the speed gauge-and of course, I got a speeding ticket. I think the Model 3's speed indicator is less problematic than those, as it appears to be closer both to the wheel and to the driver's eye level.
Hi Robert - thanks for the review. Not sure why but your enthusiasm really drives home how amazing this car is more than other reviewers have. I guess the fact that Tesla Bjørn gave up his X and S in favour of a M3 punctuates that point nicely too. I see so many of M3 around these days and some of my neighbours have them (I live in Oslo area) - it’s getting difficult to resist the urge to order while waiting for news of the VW ID3.
@@achenarmyst2156 Ahh, but has Robert got a FREE Tesla from his referrals? Sorry, make that TWO free Teslas :-). Seriously, "Respect" to both of them, there is a hell of a lot of hard work that goes into what both of them do, and I doubt either will become rich from doing it.
Robert. One comment on the indicated range in the Tesla. You might want to keep in mind that unlike other EV's Tesla cars are "terrain aware" meaning that when you have entered a destination into the navigation system it is calculating not only the distance but also elevation changes as well as traffic and speed limits etc. along the route. So when you see what looks like anomalies at any specific point in your trip, the car is likely factoring these elements in. By the end of your trip the Tesla is usually within about 1% plus or minus.
But you have to use the Energy app to take advantage of that. The battery gauge spent take any of that into account, showing rated range multiplied by state of charge percentage, multiplied by battery health.
@@genephipps6421 what I mean is that even when navigating, the battery gauge shown on the left side of Model 3 screen continues to display "rated miles" of range remaining (or percentage). It's not a guess-o-meter, meaning it is not affected by how efficiently you drive. That said, there are two other places to see range data: 1. At the bottom of navigation directions panel it shows expected range remaining when you reach your destination. 2. Tap the button near the bottom left corner to pop up an app picker and select the Energy app. It has two tabs. Select the trip tab and you'll see a graph of predicted battery percentage remaining as you drive from starting point to destination. Both of these take hills and speed limits into account, but not your driving style. th-cam.com/video/NsKe6NiKdwA/w-d-xo.html explains it pretty well, but mixes up the meaning of the gray and color lines.
@@pepstein ah I understand now. I think adding driving style to the calculated range would be difficult--even for Tesla--as it can change depending on a person's mood or location...I bet even the song playing can make a person slightly more or less aggressive.
19:48 Rare Bjorn Nyland sighting ... he bought a first gen. Model S, then he won an X, S, two Roadsters ... and he just bought a Model 3 Performance ... brilliant!
9:44 Careful Robert, if Elon hears you saying there's LIDAR on his cars he won't be happy! Love the videos as always, scared now that as a 22 year old I want to make a pretty poor financial decision and put an order in next week when the books open!
Just hold off until full self-driving is actually available in your jurisdiction. At that point, the revenue you gain from adding your car to the Tesla Network robotaxi fleet will dramatically help you pay back the loan.
Big risk-reward on the Tesla. Probably the best financial call to get a used Corolla/Auris, because the insurance on a Tesla for someone your age would be astronomical. The Tesla Network is compelling, but the regulatory hurdles will be pretty big, so I don't think the Tesla Network will be available until 2021-22. You may not be able to afford it until then.
About the range estimation, you should consider it in the long run or through built-in Energy app for more details. AFAIK Tesla considers elevation changes and accounts even on possible regeneration in parts of the route for its calculations.
That's quite funny cos I've just tried that car this afternoon and I think it's fantastic! The power is just unreal. The handling is brillant and the comfort is not bad at all considering this version (Performance) sits on 20 inches wheels! Definitely my next car! :-)
FYI, on the overtaking capability... at least, in the US. You can just push/pull the turn signal stalk all the way down past the first detent to lock it into change lanes mode (or keep the signal on) and it will full change for you without having to hold it.
Corentin Hatte this is exactly my predicament! This is killing me. I went and took a test drive today, I may not successfully hold myself back anymore. I’m sorry Dave Ramsey, I fear I am about to mess up the financial plan.
@@TYFLOL - By that logic everyone should be driving antiques. By the same logic it would be better for the environment if everyone heated their homes with wood and coal vs 95% efficient natural gas heaters and heat pumps. Air quality would suffer immensely. However, it would be interesting if manufacturers had to publish their CO2 footprint for every new car. Then consumers who care could do the math themselves and determine if it is better to upgrade.
@@MpowerSkill How much credit card debt do you have left? If I were in your shoes, I'd pay those off ASAP (smallest to largest), and in the meantime, if you have the cash in the bank, pre-order a Model Y with FSD ($2,500 deposit, fully refundable). If that Tesla Network thing comes to fruition, you can make some of the money back on the purchase when it becomes available (supposedly about when the Model Y comes out in late 2020, but regulators will probably push it back to 2021-22). However, the credit cards will compound faster than you can make money from the Tesla Network, especially in the year(s) between now and when it becomes available.
@@MrPascaldg - THE environment or OUR environment. It isn't like you or anyone else misunderstood which environment we were talking about. Building new energy efficient cars that can be charged on renewable energy is a net win verses driving around old clunkers.
I have been driving my Model 3 since last August and still find driving a pure delight, perhaps even more. It really does take some skill to drive the car to take advantages of its capabilities. It can also take patience, which is really hard because we all know what's coming soon, and all want to be the first to try it. I want signal/sign detection, for example. In the US, at least, it's quite reasonably priced, Wonderful review, thanks!
Top gear just did a comparison between the Model 3 and the BMW M3 and the Tesla kicked its butt in every category that matters. Tesla is here to play, folks.
Top Gear... the folks who are a decade late to the Tesla party, now have to catch up. Too bad Clarkson et al spent their tenure pandering to the fossils instead of being real trendsetters. Is this a case of "better late than never" or "a broken clock is right twice a day"?
Not true is it. The tesla requires more space to slow down from 100 than the m3, which is the opposite of what you want in a road car. The m3 is also leagues ahead for enjoyment as a driver's car.
A general comment - I'm working in Seattle and observational evidence tells me I see more new Model 3's on the road than other new 4 door sedans from any other manufacturers. In the others, I'm including Honda Accords, Toyota Camry's, Nissan Altima's, BMW 3 Series, etc. I see quite a lot of mid-sized Fords, I have seen a few Chevy Bolts and it seems like Chrysler has abandoned this market segment - correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have numbers to back this up but it seems Tesla has taken over this market segment. Another great Fully Charged episode thank you Robert.
Robert, excellent presentation. I did not know that the "3" was so much better than the "S". Hmmm? Now I will have to drive one and see what it is like. My wife keeps saying buy myself something. It could be a "3". Thanks, great information. Oh, I hope they have a speed limit alarm in the car. I know I would get tickets otherwise.
Yes, there is a speed alarm. From the Model 3 owners manual: To adjust the Speed Limit Warning setting, touch Controls > Autopilot > Speed Limit Warning, then choose one of these options: • Off - Speed limit warnings do not display and chimes are not sounded. • Display - Speed limit signs display on the touchscreen and the sign increases in size when you exceed the determined limit. • Chime - In addition to the visual display, a chime is sounded whenever you exceed the determined speed limit. You can also specify how the speed limit is determined: • Relative - The speed limit is determined automatically based on detected traffic signs and GPS data. If desired, you can set a speed limit offset (+ or -) if you want to be alerted only when you exceed the offset speed limit by a specified amount. For example, you can increase the offset to +10 mph (10 km/h) if you only want to be warned when you exceed the speed limit by 10 mph (10 km/h). • Absolute - Manually specify any speed limit between 20 and 140 mph (30 and 240 km/h).
The reason that the range changes as you drive is because the model 3 has not just got distance info but also topographical information too, so the range information will be near perfect by the END of the journey. I found this out by watching another video going up and down a mountain road. Great episode though..
*Beautiful car.* Tesla is ahead of everybody in the development of the nice electric cars with a good autopilot. This car should have been made by European or Japanese brands, instead the faster start-up made it happen. In any way, the clean air is good for all of us, not important who makes the car and where :-)
I am glad other companies are making EV's. If I was going to buy an EV today, Tesla would probably get my business. In 7 years, when I am actually going to buy; who knows?
You botched the sensor details pretty bad but I'm sure other people will tell you the proper details in the comments. What i want to know is what year is your model S and have you driven one with the improved build quality. I feel like your comparing only with old S but arent aware ofthe improvements in the new ones.
Robert one thing you got to think about is that the Tesla navigation actually takes into account with some hills and regenerative breaking. so down further in your journey you may be gaining back some KW. I'm sure this gets optimized in the US more since we have more data of model threes on the road. The accuracy only gets better over time in each country
So while in autopilot mode, the steering wheel is disengaged? I'd find that scary because after driving crap cars most of my life, i assume anything technical such as that at some point will fail leaving me holding the wheel with no steering input.
Great show Robert. (There is nothing wrong with being a fan of a great car.) Others have corrected you on cameras, and sensors, however also, I think you’ll find that no hands on the steering wheel for too long will eventually slow and stop the car and activate emergency flashers rather than just disconnect at speed as others do.
9:16 so... if you don’t hold the steering wheel because you’ve passed out, the autopilot will disengage and if your foot is on the accelerator pedal them the car won’t stop? That’s going to cause some nasty crashes. Makes more sense if the computer slows the car down, hazard lights come on and some alarm sounds, maybe to try and wake you up. And then maybe calls emergency after the car is brought to a stop in a safe place, say the emergency lane?
I'm eagerly awaiting official word for pricing and delivery in the UK. I could have been in an eNiro by now, but cancelled my order back in January when I realised a Tesla 3 might be available this year.
No, he is definitely a fanboy. When you declare a vehicle better than any other vehicle seconds, after sitting down, before even driving it, you are definitely not objective. When you gush over rain sensing wipers, which many cars already have, you remind me of Apple users who think the iPhone is revolutionary when it gets a feature Android phones have had for years. I love this channel when Robert is interviewing people at places like that fluid battery places, but when he does anything involving Tesla, I take it with a grain of salt. The center console screen is idiotic. It is very exposed and would be pretty easy to break. Break the screen, and you lose all the instruments, all the controls.
@@TroySavary I was planning to get an e-nero, but had an opportunity to sit in a tesla 3 and instantly wanted that car. It is just nice to sit in, nice to drive, just a really nice car, easy to charge. OK, you say I am now a tesla fan boy, so what, it is a nice car, a car you want to buy. Try it yourself, they say that Tesla dealers never try to sell you the car, they just hand you the keys for a test drive - try it I dare you.
Other manufacturers say lidar is necessary for autonomous driving but is essentially a light-based observation system which two cameras can achieve by making an internal 3d image.
9:44, It's not a forward facing Lidar, just good old fashion radar. radar uses radio waves where as LiDAR uses laser light so can be affected by weather.
At 18:00 you talked about the range being optimistic. Was the fact you had been travelling (in the ship) without using any electricity distorting the estimate?
3 questions I want answered. Can you get a black out option on all chrome? Can the LEDs adjust so you don't have to constantly turn off high beam? When will I ever be able to afford this? :(. I am very disappointed there is no HUD.
12:52 Okay, something is not right here: The car has a 496 km range. The charger is adding 788 km per hour and the remaining time is 1hr 10 min. How does that work?
Lithium batteries are charged with a CCCV profile. Let's say you have a 2Ah cell. You charge at a constant 2A current, so it should take an hour to charge. The issue is that you can only charge at that current until the cell voltage reaches 4.2V (around 70-80% of charge depending on the cell), then you have to start lowering the current so you don't go over 4.2 or the cell will get damaged (and possibly explode). The closer you get to 100% the more you have to lower the current to keep the voltage in check. I'm guessing Tesla would use an even more conservative charging curve to extend the life of the cells further. So the charger is probably charging at 800km/h for the first 50%, 400km/h for the next 30%, 200 for the next 15, etc.
Best not to charge above 80% unless you need to anyway, bad for the battery (the closer you get to 100% the worse the wear) I try to keep my phone between 45% and 75% (12% of a cycle wear for the 30% depth of discharge) using Accubattery to alert to unplug, and avoid charging when the phone is hot
I was very inspired by this review and went to the website to place an order: 750,000 Sek! This is nutso pricing, at the peak of my petrol head phase I had a fully specced V10 BMW M5 and got change from £60k. How can Tesla charge such high prices? Isn't the 3 meant to be the "affordable Tesla"? I seem to recall talk of it costing ~35k but I haven't found that price anywhere. Sorry to be negative, I want to jump on the EV bandwagon but it's not sustainable for me at that price. Lease plan was slightly cheaper, but they imposed a limit of 15000 km/year, which means I get to use my tesla for 3 months....
Based on the comments, the Anti-Musk crowd are sadly out in force! We simply love ❤️ both of our M3’s ... brilliant cars and I was not a fan until we drove one.... Thanks for the great review!
@@MyEyesBled hehe i was only joking but when people say M3 i always think of the BMWs but i would never buy German cars as it is just funding them to start a new world war!
The range displayed on the screen takes into account headwinds, tailwinds, and terrain; weather you will be driving up hill and down hill. So, maybe the car’s estimation of range was spot on.
Robert, thanks so much for doing this video and thanks to the whole Fully Charged team. Fantastic work as always and what a wonderfully produced video even lacking the mounting equipment for the cameras. I actually prefer the feel of hand held in this video over the static mounted cams.
Zeb Hallock Yes, nice camera work, I love it too
Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown cameras see like humans. LiDAR cannot penetrate rain fog or snow, radar can.
@Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown Oh man, please do a bit of home work :), everything is other way around. Radar can see through snow, fog and rain. Lidar can't as it operates close to visible wavelength. Physics never gets "old", radar is perfect for what Tesla is using it. Watch Tesla autonomy day to get a bit of understanding.
@Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown: I guess future will tell, but the present would tend to disagree with you. Lidar is multiple times more expensive and it is yet to prove it adds anything meaningful to a setup like what Teslas are already equipped with. Please check Tesla's FSD Analyst day (a few days ago) which addresses this very subject.
Nick Antipin you don’t Actually think he’s missed the Tesla autonomy thing do you? Nobody comes out of nowhere talking about Lidar, not a coincidence just a troll
Correction:
8 cameras, not 12
12 ultrasonic sensors, not 14
Radar, no Lidar on Teslas.
what about the camera inside the Model 3 ?
Hehe, yeah, best not to make up the specs off-the-cuff. He got literally everything wrong. :)
Dr. Michael Mcrackpot Farty Brown You just proved you know nothing of lidar vs radar.
Neither the current situation of Tesla’s market disruption...
harry Campbell What camera are we talking about?
The film crew’s or the 3 cameras behind the rear view mirror?
Rick Mancuso I can understand how it’s hard to keep track of.
He should have said: “Don’t quote me on that”. :)
I don't know what happened to this show but it's gone from very, very good to absolutely bloody brilliant. Thank you Fullycharged.
what a wonderful comment. Thank you, much appreciated.
Thank you Robert - you've just re-affirmed EVERYTHING about my choice to get a Model 3. Forget anything else, Tesla really are the best out there.
I just drove it and it was the first EV I ever sat in. I'm still recovering from the insane acceleration.
You should test drive a Ludicrous Model S... That thing is batshit level insanity.
Was that Bjorn? Great show as usual. Props to the cameraman for having a steady hand.
Yep, that was Mr Nyland. He made a corresponding video where he saw Robert. They had a little chat.
@@ramblerandy2397 Bjorn was running late so I don't know if we'll see anything more.
Yes! You can see Bjørn's video of this meetup at th-cam.com/video/SCFv4USce_U/w-d-xo.html
Shhhheeeiiitttt
Yup, TeslaBjørn at 19:47.
I was taken for a test ride in one at a EV Show in Montréal exactly a year ago today. The owner and driver was an ex racing man who thew it silently around the Autoroute like a Go-Kart, I can understand why Robert was impressed. The model 3 is an investment in so many ways !
Victor Seal - especially when you get into a fender bender and learn the wonders of aluminum repair...
@@grendelum What aluminum? We're talking about the Model 3
@@Markle2k www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-body-structure-steel-aluminium-composition/
Also, the Mod 3 will just become better with age ; over the air updates, and, it’s now being produced with the hardware for autonomous driving, Robotaxi compliant, etc .
@@waynerussell6401 Yes, thank you. The Model 3 is built just like many steel frame contemporary cars. The new 3-series BMW for example:
www.repairerdrivennews.com/2018/10/03/2019-bmw-3-series-has-aluminum-hood-and-fenders-slew-of-possible-tech/
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I came from BMW’s (including the M3), to a Leaf to the Model 3 and have put 25,000 miles on my Tesla and it is without a doubt the most brilliant car I’ve owned. Perfect? No, but in day to day use it is unbeatable. From picking up the kids at school to 3,000 mi cross country journeys, it has worked beautifully and is simultaneously calming and exciting to be in.
Paul Carpenter, could you elaborate. What aspect of Model 3 do you prefer over the BMW? Is it just electronics or software stuff, or even more traditional car stuff? I am just trying to understand how Tesla is doing in traditional car technology vs software. I mean we know Tesla is way ahead on software/electronics. But it is more unclear to me how they do the other things.
@@erikengheim1106
I do not own a Tesla. But I've heard from some Model 3 owners who previously owned either BMW 3 series, Audi A4, or Mercedez Benz C Class, and they all pointed out that the Model 3 is just as good (and better in some ways). Everyone seems to love how that car drives. I'm hoping to have a test drive soon, in order to discover for myself.
@@erikengheim1106 - LR AWD, it feels like you are driving a part of the future, or more likely you have come back in time and just driving around with everyone in dino juice combustion engines, huffing, puffing,, when I look under the hood in our other car I can't believe all the gubbins and stuff, it's so complex and just looks ancient!! This car is a different beast, it's got a much much simpler drivetrain, which feels way more solid in it's tolerances. There is no starting it, yes everything works via the screen, but it feels completely intuitive as it's like an extension of your smartphone, the screen is big, informative and fast. The car feels super solid, tight, silent. The acceleration is just amazing, you basically have supercar (in powerband) instant pulling power, no noise, no fuss, 4x traction, if you're merging onto a road and a car is trying to block you, you just move forward in front of it, it's like they are in slow motion, I used to have this experience on motorbikes, but I would still need to be in my powerband, that's what this car feels like a decent motorbike in it's powerband (Supersports bikes now, will leave basically any tesla in the dust, but they will huff n puff a lot to do it)...So the instant speed is super addictive, but also the one foot driving, as soon as you let off the throttle (this is dynamic, based on how much you release) the car slows down rapidly, this is charging the battery, the regen is strong, it's like 50-90% braking in normal driving, you can drive with more confidence because you don't need to switch your foot, you just release and the car slows down rapidly. The car sticks to the road, it's very stable, and you can power through corners, it will handle the torque split. The other I'm loving is the efficiency as I get older I care more about this, and this car driven normally is just really efficient, can get below 200Wh/mi (which would be 375 miles on a full charge) - it's definitely possible to hit the 310 or more in normal driving, but it's hard to not have fun with it, so those numbers will drop if you're going fast. So you're driving this silent, instant fast and very simple regen brakes, solid machine. We're raving about it, because it's like nothing we have experienced, it's really a part of the future available now....I agree with adage, 'Beware driving a Tesla, it will ruin ICE cars forever'
how do you feel about the auto pilot tho ? the way he explained it in the end of the video that it is scared of truks and sometimes suddenly brakes whilst overtaking :O that sounds like waiting for a crash to me
@@iihoipoiii I've never experienced anything like that driving my Tesla, keep in mind if for some reason 1 out of the 500,000 teslas does that an over the air update would fix it.
Your enthusiasm is infectious! Thanks for the report
I paused the video to get a drink and was disappointed to see that there was only a minute left. Fantastic, as usual. Always a joy to watch, thank you gents!
This has to be the most relaxing car review I've ever watched!
Thx for promoting Tesla, the car that made my driving life so much more fun.
Some of the features take time to learn. Windshield wipers, AP, and the miles/Kwh. As the car learns your driving habits, it will get amazing accurate. Mine is to one mile now on every trip.
Robert keeps mentioning how the Autopilot is better than on Model S, but it's only better than HIS Model S. Newer Model S/Xs have the same Autopilot as Model 3.
Autopilot on 2019.12 has 2 distinct advantages that what you see here. no 1 the ghost braking, or behaving like a nervous horse, has gone. no 2 you only need to touch the indicator once and it will complete the full lane change, you don't need to hold it down and it wont serve back. Worth remembering that Robert's MS has AP1 not AP2.5 that is almost certainly in this car.
I still like my AP1 in my Model S better than AP2.5 in my wife's X. AP1 is smoother, not as jerky. AP2.5 seems like it's trying too hard to stay centered in within the lines. If the lines are painted sloppily as is common where I live, the AP2.5 micromanages too much. I'm sure it will get better with time.
That last statement is one that you can only say about Tesla. Every other car is sold and forgotten by the manufacturer.
Happy to hear you explain that as I have an old 2008 BMW 650i with one of the first "smart speed pilots" and it's over-breaking to an extent where I've just given up using it. Was beginning to fear auto pilot would be more of the same. Thanks again.
Aside from the minor inaccuracies (which is kind of Fully Charge's trade mark) a great video. Something so relaxing about Robert's voice, the music and the camera work. Love you guys and love this channel.
8 but 12 cameras and definitely no front-facing LIDAR! :-D
Indeed. It's front-facing RADAR. As Elon Musk said at the recent autonomy talk, LIDAR cannot see through rain and even in bad conditions (snow, rain) vision is good enough for humans, so therefore it's only a matter of time before machine learning can do the same job of reading the road in poor visibility.
Why only at the front? As Elon said: "It's the direction in which you move the fastest."
Well done xordinary, you spotted our deliberate mistake. We know our viewers are very smart so we put these little tests in to see if you're paying attention. ;)
(Thanks for the correction!)
@@GregRobsonUK It is right Musk said that, but I already had a university professor and a vehicular automation grad student disagree firmly with that assertion. LIDAR does enable the car to gain additional information over simple cameras due to the properties of laser light and can also do a lot of the things cameras do with a lot less computing power, saving costs in other areas. Also the argument "Humans drive with just two eyes, therefore cameras are sufficient" does not hold while the cameras used are vastly inferior to a human eye. I would accept it if the cameras could change focal lengths and angles. But then they would be just as expensive as laser scanners and require more computing power on top.
fullychargedshow 😂
You know what. I like the hand held camera style.
It feels more personal. It feels like it belongs on youtube.
9:43 It's not a Lidar, it has a Radar. Musk has specifically said that Lidars are dumb for EVs :D
Autonomous cars, doesn't have anything with the fact that it is an EV
Dumb until a bug gets smeared into the camera's vision.
@@mojpismonosa Correct. I apologize for my incorrect statement.
@@Robert-cu9bm What do you expect happen when a bug hit lidar emmiter/sensor on highway speed.;-)
@@Robert-cu9bm same as lidar
Better than TV... Robert and Johnny are such great presenters, every FC is a pleasure to watch. And now we all want Tesla 3's too...!
Just when one starts to feel a tad jaded... yeah ok, another Model 3 test drive - Robert comes along and gives us the definitive video of being in a Tesla M3. It's not just the acceleration, it's not just the speed and refinement, it's the feel. This is as close as I have felt to actually sitting in the passenger seat. I totally got the fact that he wanted to hate it, or at least dislike it a bit. Yet after driving the best car he has ever had for 4 years he jumps in this one and 10 minutes later it's the new favourite. And I now understand why. 👍
Great, great video. Well done team.
I do love the promotion of electric vehicles and the incredible quality of the content on this channel, been following for a long time, but my favourite thing by far is still Robert's hilarious childish humour and his impressions. Super silly and super lovable. Great video!
Great film work! Whoever did the filming, also love the music. Great video! =]
Roads are so clean and have many beautiful sceneries. I wish my country will be that clean and neat.
Background score is simply awesome.
omg, the sound effects of the car wincing from the trucks or halfway across the lane 🤣😂😘😂
Yeah, and Robert's faces were great too. xD
There you have it: if you want a confident car that can stand its ground you need to pay up for Model S.
For owning a Tesla there are a few things you should know based on your comments, but hey, I had to lookup how to engage auto pilot in the 3 too!
1. Push the turnsignal stock all the way down and it will complete the lane change on its own and turn off the blinker appropriately. You don't actually have to hold it.
2. the reason you arrived with a different range estimate, is that is based on a rating scale, not your actual trip. The trip screen would have shown you much closer too accurate arrival range. That's why that's there, so you don't have to think about how you're doing, you can simply look down and see how much you're going to use to get to your destination, and if you have round trip estimate turned on you can see that too.
3. Also of note the performance 3 does not have the aero wheels that increase highway efficiency.
As always, thanks for the great video and gorgeous scenes from the Nordic areas!
That ferry should've been at the beginning, Denmark - Sweden crossing :)
Well spotted, a bit of editorial license and the ferry episode is coming soon.
Also the Uddevalla bridge at 18:21 feels a bit off to us locals (there's no tunnel before the bridge) ;)
Since I'm from Copenhagen I already spotted early on that this definitely wasn't edited chronologically. :)
@@fullychargedshow Looking forward to that as that electric ferry has been delayed numerous times and it's hard to find anything current about it. I use it every time I'm back in Denmark and I'm looking forward to try the EV version.
At 17:30 he is close to Ängelholm while he is commenting the battery performance.
Cannot get enough of your reviews! Amazing presentation style especially Robert and the back ground music is perfect!
Thanks Robert!
It really is a completely amazing car. Only got the LR AWD myself but I loooooooooove it.
Okay, and how do you love the tiny rearview mirror? The dorky plasti-wooden dash? The horribly placed screen and unreachable homelink? the leaky tire valves? the cheap black fuzz in the cargo area? The cheap looking hubcaps? The way the rain comes straight into the car any time the window is cracked?
@@baby_UFO I'll give you that the rearview mirror is kinda tiny but nothing else. I guess we'll see...
Phoenix1969 Nobody asked, and that was almost entirely inaccurate.
Really appreciate your work Robert and crew. You guys are the gold standard in professionalism in terms of conduct, content and the polish of the production. Well done and I will look forward to your next video as always.
Amazing video Robert, great to see the M3 gradually expanding across Europe. Just a quick correction, at 9:45 you mention Lidar being used, it is in fact Radar used in Teslas, as Elon is very against Lidar (expensive, and waste of money on vehicles).
The reason Musk is against lidar tech is not the expense, but information density of lidar-sensored data. The fact that cameras are cheaper and more robust is just a bonus really
@@mojpismonosa Pretty much what I mean, Lidar relative to Cameras (in terms of money) is a no brainer. To produce a mass fleet of autonomous yet affordable cars (like Tesla is doing), it would be stupid to not use cameras and perfect the computer vision side of it.
Been shopping for a few years for an EV for myself (We bought a Bolt when it came out and my daughter bought a used Leaf last year). I shopped the Leaf, the Jaguar, the Korean offerings and was paying close attention to VW Group's concepts, particularly the Mission E and the e-trons.
Everybody was compared to Tesla. Everybody. The 'Next Tesla Beater' in every hype package and youtube video. Tesla. Tesla. Tesla.
So I bought a Model 3 Performance and haven't looked back. Best car I have owned as a total package. I traded in a Macan GTS.
Except, if you need a hatchback.... then it's a total fail!
"ooh, lovely wiping action!" :D
The research that you guys are doing for your videos is top notch. Your info videos, are getting better and better, and so to is that subscriber count. Well done, keep it up
Worth noting, whenever Robert says 'the model S' it should be 'my model S'. A new model S bought today will have the exact same hardware and software (like autopilot) as a new model 3.
Thank you Robert for a well produced and informative presentation as usual. It was a pleasure to meet you many years ago at a SciFi convention. I am lucky to be an owner of an Ioniq which seems to do everything the Model 3 does.
19:47 SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIET
"Secure" is certainly not a word often used to describe a car's handling, but this just shows what a game changer the Tesla 3 is. I merely drove one on a vacation out in San Francisco. Picking it up in town my wife and I headed down to Carmel/Monterey. There are both absolutely spectacular views, and spectacular opportunities to go sailing off the road and way down to the Pacific. So, the specific solidity, the instant-direct steering, the "just let off the gas and it slows way down" means you feel more connected to the Tesla than any car I've driven. And, for reference, my car is a VW Golf 1.8T with full Bilstein B8, lowering springs, 18" Michelin Pilot Sport tired beauty. But the Tesla, impresses more. It's that good.
The range indicater is rated range not actual range. Predicted range is on a different screen when you put it into the navigation it will tell you how much %of battery when arriving at the superchargers or destination with much accuracy. basically that is just showing you what percent of battery you have left
Test drove the performance 3 last weekend and can not understand why everyone originally complained about where the speedometer was. It's literally right there! You can read it through your peripheral vision. Easy. Loved it.
Robert, "this car is built to be fully autonomous , I still have my doubts about the sense the need and the complexity of that task" Well as someone who is registered blind I can see the need for it quite well. Full level 5 is probably still quite a way off , but I hope, years rather than decades.
One good reason for full autonomy: road deaths. I look forward to my grandchildren (don’t have any yet) being astonished to hear that there used to be car crashes on the “olden days”.
@@michaelfink64 quite agree , a lot has already been done to reduce road deaths by making "crashing" safer, seatbelts, airbags etc. But there is a limit to what that can do.
Also in this week's fully charged podcast, Robert said that autonomy would only be used to Summon cars for car sharing services , so we are going to have the insane situation were you can walk out of a pub after 6 pints, use your phone to callup an autonomous car and then drive it home "manually" while massively over the drink drive limit.
@@michaelfink64 unfortunately there will always be accidents no matter how clever the cars get. People and animals run onto roads for example, or cars malfunctioning. Nothing is infallible.
@@bigboldbicycle true, but road RTCs still kill about 2 to 3 thousand people each year in the UK. Yes, relative to the number of miles driven the number killed has fallen since the 80s , mainly due to seatbelts, airbags and improved car design. I feel that autonomy will be the next stage. As far as those of us with reduced vision are concerned , i have lost count of the number of job ads I have seen were the only thing stopping me doing the job was the requirement to be able to drive.
after watching many reviews on the Model 3 I really got to say and appreciate the quality of this video! Great review, amazing camera control (by hand!) and pristine 4k quality! WOW. Thx!!!
15:33 when your DJ doesn't show up and YOU take control.
Gamer Studio I was looking for meme comments about this moment
Fun to watch this review after a few years. It’s still spot on. And I say that as somebody who bought a Model 3 about the same time this video came out.
When I first drove a Model 3 in late 2017 I got that uh-oh feeling that indicates that my bank account is going to take a hit.
My 2013 Model S was amazing, and so much better than any ICE, but driving the Model 3 I immediately knew that I wanted one, a very rare thing for me.
It took 9 months for a lightly used Module 3 to show up. I still love it unconditionally 7 months later!. It seems that I too can’t help being a Tesla fan boy.
Thanks for the great review, and just because someone needs to point it out, we only have 8 cameras, not 12. 🤣 It seems 8 is enough.
It was a pleasure to "follow" you on your ride to Oslo, sitting in my homeoffice in Santiago de Chile ..really amazing car and new form of driving, indeed. - Top quality review, thanks for sharing..!
+1 for having Depeche Mode playing in the background at 14:43
Although it may be nowadays unfamiliar to have the speedometer in the middle, that’s where it often used to be in the past. I drove an original Austin Mini in the early seventies and the speedo was a big dial low down in the middle. I seem to remember that the Morris Minor had the speedo in the middle of the dash too.
The original Toyota Yaris had a low, center-of-the-dash speed gauge, too. I rented one once. On my way out of the airport rentals lot, I thought to myself: "I'm going to get a speeding ticket in this slow, little car." Sure enough, on my way back to the airport, on a highway with narrow shoulders beside deep ditches, I kept my eyes on the road instead of watching the speed gauge-and of course, I got a speeding ticket.
I think the Model 3's speed indicator is less problematic than those, as it appears to be closer both to the wheel and to the driver's eye level.
Hi Robert - thanks for the review. Not sure why but your enthusiasm really drives home how amazing this car is more than other reviewers have. I guess the fact that Tesla Bjørn gave up his X and S in favour of a M3 punctuates that point nicely too.
I see so many of M3 around these days and some of my neighbours have them (I live in Oslo area) - it’s getting difficult to resist the urge to order while waiting for news of the VW ID3.
M3? Ummm Is that a Freudian slip?
The interior design of this car just so soft. Really calm and characteristic
19:48 oh look it's just the 2 overlords of the EV world casually meeting up
Same two guys in this video... th-cam.com/video/SCFv4USce_U/w-d-xo.html
Christopher Carr Robert has got more than threefold number of subscribers. So he‘s still overlord to Björn. 😁
@@achenarmyst2156 Ahh, but has Robert got a FREE Tesla from his referrals? Sorry, make that TWO free Teslas :-). Seriously, "Respect" to both of them, there is a hell of a lot of hard work that goes into what both of them do, and I doubt either will become rich from doing it.
Robert. One comment on the indicated range in the Tesla. You might want to keep in mind that unlike other EV's Tesla cars are "terrain aware" meaning that when you have entered a destination into the navigation system it is calculating not only the distance but also elevation changes as well as traffic and speed limits etc. along the route. So when you see what looks like anomalies at any specific point in your trip, the car is likely factoring these elements in. By the end of your trip the Tesla is usually within about 1% plus or minus.
Gene Phipps Correct, good description. The Tesla does this far more accurately than anyone else.
But you have to use the Energy app to take advantage of that. The battery gauge spent take any of that into account, showing rated range multiplied by state of charge percentage, multiplied by battery health.
@@pepstein sorry but I didn't really understand your comment. No "Energy App" is required when you are using navigation--aka route planning.
@@genephipps6421 what I mean is that even when navigating, the battery gauge shown on the left side of Model 3 screen continues to display "rated miles" of range remaining (or percentage). It's not a guess-o-meter, meaning it is not affected by how efficiently you drive. That said, there are two other places to see range data:
1. At the bottom of navigation directions panel it shows expected range remaining when you reach your destination.
2. Tap the button near the bottom left corner to pop up an app picker and select the Energy app. It has two tabs. Select the trip tab and you'll see a graph of predicted battery percentage remaining as you drive from starting point to destination.
Both of these take hills and speed limits into account, but not your driving style.
th-cam.com/video/NsKe6NiKdwA/w-d-xo.html explains it pretty well, but mixes up the meaning of the gray and color lines.
@@pepstein ah I understand now. I think adding driving style to the calculated range would be difficult--even for Tesla--as it can change depending on a person's mood or location...I bet even the song playing can make a person slightly more or less aggressive.
Dont complain about the range-meter, switch to % and use the energy feature that shows the range under present driving conditions.
Another great video by Fully Charged. Thank you for being cool, informative, pleasant, and educational... yet imperfect. :-D
19:48 Rare Bjorn Nyland sighting ... he bought a first gen. Model S, then he won an X, S, two Roadsters ... and he just bought a Model 3 Performance ... brilliant!
And busted it up a bit in Finland. :D
@@matsa85 Hoons revenge, it was actually lack of experience in the car and conditions
Very positive point of view, I like it! Kudos to the camera-man, very good work, I love it! Flow energy, flow more 👍🏼
9:44 Careful Robert, if Elon hears you saying there's LIDAR on his cars he won't be happy! Love the videos as always, scared now that as a 22 year old I want to make a pretty poor financial decision and put an order in next week when the books open!
I would say leasing or renting is a much better idea.
Just hold off until full self-driving is actually available in your jurisdiction. At that point, the revenue you gain from adding your car to the Tesla Network robotaxi fleet will dramatically help you pay back the loan.
You have much to lose if someone crashes into you and kills or maims you. The 3 will decrease the odds.
if I was starting out at 22 I would go with used corolla for now
Big risk-reward on the Tesla. Probably the best financial call to get a used Corolla/Auris, because the insurance on a Tesla for someone your age would be astronomical. The Tesla Network is compelling, but the regulatory hurdles will be pretty big, so I don't think the Tesla Network will be available until 2021-22. You may not be able to afford it until then.
About the range estimation, you should consider it in the long run or through built-in Energy app for more details. AFAIK Tesla considers elevation changes and accounts even on possible regeneration in parts of the route for its calculations.
Ali Najafi 👍
That's quite funny cos I've just tried that car this afternoon and I think it's fantastic! The power is just unreal. The handling is brillant and the comfort is not bad at all considering this version (Performance) sits on 20 inches wheels! Definitely my next car! :-)
FYI, on the overtaking capability... at least, in the US. You can just push/pull the turn signal stalk all the way down past the first detent to lock it into change lanes mode (or keep the signal on) and it will full change for you without having to hold it.
Why do you make me want to buy this brand new car so bad when I vowed not to buy a new car again? Why, Robert⁈ WHY⁈
Corentin Hatte this is exactly my predicament! This is killing me. I went and took a test drive today, I may not successfully hold myself back anymore. I’m sorry Dave Ramsey, I fear I am about to mess up the financial plan.
buying a new car is awful for the environment, better keep going on in your oldie
@@TYFLOL - By that logic everyone should be driving antiques. By the same logic it would be better for the environment if everyone heated their homes with wood and coal vs 95% efficient natural gas heaters and heat pumps. Air quality would suffer immensely.
However, it would be interesting if manufacturers had to publish their CO2 footprint for every new car. Then consumers who care could do the math themselves and determine if it is better to upgrade.
@@MpowerSkill How much credit card debt do you have left? If I were in your shoes, I'd pay those off ASAP (smallest to largest), and in the meantime, if you have the cash in the bank, pre-order a Model Y with FSD ($2,500 deposit, fully refundable). If that Tesla Network thing comes to fruition, you can make some of the money back on the purchase when it becomes available (supposedly about when the Model Y comes out in late 2020, but regulators will probably push it back to 2021-22). However, the credit cards will compound faster than you can make money from the Tesla Network, especially in the year(s) between now and when it becomes available.
@@MrPascaldg - THE environment or OUR environment. It isn't like you or anyone else misunderstood which environment we were talking about. Building new energy efficient cars that can be charged on renewable energy is a net win verses driving around old clunkers.
I have been driving my Model 3 since last August and still find driving a pure delight, perhaps even more. It really does take some skill to drive the car to take advantages of its capabilities. It can also take patience, which is really hard because we all know what's coming soon, and all want to be the first to try it. I want signal/sign detection, for example. In the US, at least, it's quite reasonably priced, Wonderful review, thanks!
Top gear just did a comparison between the Model 3 and the BMW M3 and the Tesla kicked its butt in every category that matters. Tesla is here to play, folks.
Where did you see it?
Top Gear... the folks who are a decade late to the Tesla party, now have to catch up. Too bad Clarkson et al spent their tenure pandering to the fossils instead of being real trendsetters. Is this a case of "better late than never" or "a broken clock is right twice a day"?
Henrik Johannessen
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Not true is it. The tesla requires more space to slow down from 100 than the m3, which is the opposite of what you want in a road car. The m3 is also leagues ahead for enjoyment as a driver's car.
@@niandra92 The actual test was *time* from 0 to 100 to 0, which the Tesla won. The BMW won the "drift" competition though
A general comment - I'm working in Seattle and observational evidence tells me I see more new Model 3's on the road than other new 4 door sedans from any other manufacturers. In the others, I'm including Honda Accords, Toyota Camry's, Nissan Altima's, BMW 3 Series, etc. I see quite a lot of mid-sized Fords, I have seen a few Chevy Bolts and it seems like Chrysler has abandoned this market segment - correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't have numbers to back this up but it seems Tesla has taken over this market segment. Another great Fully Charged episode thank you Robert.
Robert, excellent presentation. I did not know that the "3" was so much better than the "S". Hmmm? Now I will have to drive one and see what it is like. My wife keeps saying buy myself something. It could be a "3". Thanks, great information. Oh, I hope they have a speed limit alarm in the car. I know I would get tickets otherwise.
Yes, there is a speed alarm. From the Model 3 owners manual:
To adjust the Speed Limit Warning setting,
touch Controls > Autopilot > Speed Limit Warning, then choose one of these options:
• Off - Speed limit warnings do not display
and chimes are not sounded.
• Display - Speed limit signs display on the
touchscreen and the sign increases in size when you exceed the determined limit.
• Chime - In addition to the visual display, a
chime is sounded whenever you exceed the determined speed limit.
You can also specify how the speed limit is
determined:
• Relative - The speed limit is determined
automatically based on detected traffic signs and GPS data. If desired, you can set a speed limit offset (+ or -) if you want to be alerted only when you exceed the offset speed limit by a specified amount. For example, you can increase the offset to +10 mph (10 km/h) if you only want to be warned when you exceed the speed limit by 10 mph (10 km/h).
• Absolute - Manually specify any speed
limit between 20 and 140 mph (30 and 240 km/h).
The reason that the range changes as you drive is because the model 3 has not just got distance info but also topographical information too, so the range information will be near perfect by the END of the journey. I found this out by watching another video going up and down a mountain road. Great episode though..
*Beautiful car.* Tesla is ahead of everybody in the development of the nice electric cars with a good autopilot.
This car should have been made by European or Japanese brands, instead the faster start-up made it happen. In any way, the clean air is good for all of us, not important who makes the car and where :-)
I am glad other companies are making EV's.
If I was going to buy an EV today, Tesla would probably get my business.
In 7 years, when I am actually going to buy; who knows?
Great review. I skipped right through the inline ad about the leasing company so it didnt bother me, and I'm glad they lent you the car
You botched the sensor details pretty bad but I'm sure other people will tell you the proper details in the comments. What i want to know is what year is your model S and have you driven one with the improved build quality. I feel like your comparing only with old S but arent aware ofthe improvements in the new ones.
Agree, newer models much better build quality, I should have mentioned that. Mine is 2015 build
fullychargedshow sounds like an honest mistake. No biggy
Great video, I'm in the US and I'm waiting for Rivian to release it RT1. Electric vehicles are the future, it just makes complete sense to me.
3:33 ooooh lovely wiping action. I'll make gif with that LoL.
Lol!
thought he meant whipping.
The fanboy came out hardcore in that statement. Wiping action is pretty much the same on all cars.
Robert one thing you got to think about is that the Tesla navigation actually takes into account with some hills and regenerative breaking. so down further in your journey you may be gaining back some KW. I'm sure this gets optimized in the US more since we have more data of model threes on the road. The accuracy only gets better over time in each country
Why did they not talk more about the electric ferry. World's biggest as I understand it.
Read the blurb: "full episode coming soon"
@@anahatamelodeon Plus, they sometimes trickle out features and featurettes over 6 months or so.
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So while in autopilot mode, the steering wheel is disengaged?
I'd find that scary because after driving crap cars most of my life, i assume anything technical such as that at some point will fail leaving me holding the wheel with no steering input.
Robert... Lidar? you guys know how to edit. good vid, miss the old logo still!
I cringed at that too. At least he didn't say Gaydar...
New logo a little clip-arty and trying hard.
Great show Robert.
(There is nothing wrong with being a fan of a great car.) Others have corrected you on cameras, and sensors, however also, I think you’ll find that no hands on the steering wheel for too long will eventually slow and stop the car and activate emergency flashers rather than just disconnect at speed as others do.
Well done Robert for Depeche Mode, Car looks amazing cannot wait for my current lease to expire so i can upgrade to a model 3
9:16 so... if you don’t hold the steering wheel because you’ve passed out, the autopilot will disengage and if your foot is on the accelerator pedal them the car won’t stop? That’s going to cause some nasty crashes. Makes more sense if the computer slows the car down, hazard lights come on and some alarm sounds, maybe to try and wake you up. And then maybe calls emergency after the car is brought to a stop in a safe place, say the emergency lane?
I'm eagerly awaiting official word for pricing and delivery in the UK. I could have been in an eNiro by now, but cancelled my order back in January when I realised a Tesla 3 might be available this year.
Paul Mansfield Elon tweeted that UK orders are available next week twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1121469940815425536?s=21
Paul Mansfield Good move, you will NOT regret the wait. The 3 is so much better, with about the only negative being no rear tail gate.
@@FutureSystem738 shame the model Y is a year away
That Model 3 in black with the larger rims simply looks beautiful! Nice video!
It is not LIDAR but RADAR. And I thought there are 8 cameras not 12.
next 'apology of the week' coming in the Podcast
Thank you, Robert! No sales person could have sold the model 3 as well as you just did! 😊
Don't worry you are not a Tesla fan boy. Tesla is just better, and the future is now.
No, he is definitely a fanboy. When you declare a vehicle better than any other vehicle seconds, after sitting down, before even driving it, you are definitely not objective. When you gush over rain sensing wipers, which many cars already have, you remind me of Apple users who think the iPhone is revolutionary when it gets a feature Android phones have had for years.
I love this channel when Robert is interviewing people at places like that fluid battery places, but when he does anything involving Tesla, I take it with a grain of salt.
The center console screen is idiotic. It is very exposed and would be pretty easy to break. Break the screen, and you lose all the instruments, all the controls.
@@TroySavary I was planning to get an e-nero, but had an opportunity to sit in a tesla 3 and instantly wanted that car. It is just nice to sit in, nice to drive, just a really nice car, easy to charge. OK, you say I am now a tesla fan boy, so what, it is a nice car, a car you want to buy. Try it yourself, they say that Tesla dealers never try to sell you the car, they just hand you the keys for a test drive - try it I dare you.
Other manufacturers say lidar is necessary for autonomous driving but is essentially a light-based observation system which two cameras can achieve by making an internal 3d image.
MRH do YOU need Lidar in order to drive? No. Neither should a car. Vision and most important, a great AI.
For those of you unsure, he said "a whole SHIP load". So, no letters please.
I actually reversed the video to check on that!
Ship load might actually be more of a swear word. When you consider the environmental impact of the ship.
So utterly refreshing where we have an episode where Robert doesn’t mention Brexit once👍 keep up the good work really enjoyed it.
muppetnumpty65 I enjoyed it although Robert didn‘t mention Brexit once. 😁
I'd love to see Johnny on the track with the Tesla Model 3 performance!
Still a bit of range anxiety. Software needs adjusting to be slightly pessimistic prediction.
9:44, It's not a forward facing Lidar, just good old fashion radar. radar uses radio waves where as LiDAR uses laser light so can be affected by weather.
Newer versions of autopilot are much, much better. Even NoA was at first questionable but is now 1000 times better just a few months later.
I absolutely love your channel. Cheers, LEAF owner from Oregon USA
At 18:00 you talked about the range being optimistic. Was the fact you had been travelling (in the ship) without using any electricity distorting the estimate?
You don’t need to hold the indicator when changing lanes. Just tap once.
Depends on the firmware. Tap to change lanes was recently introduced.
Had it since day 1 of ownership, sept 2018
Great video - so so looking forward to being able to order next week - I do think the UK will be a busy market for Tesla
3 questions I want answered. Can you get a black out option on all chrome? Can the LEDs adjust so you don't have to constantly turn off high beam? When will I ever be able to afford this? :(. I am very disappointed there is no HUD.
12:52 Okay, something is not right here:
The car has a 496 km range. The charger is adding 788 km per hour and the remaining time is 1hr 10 min.
How does that work?
It's like trying to fill a bucket with a fire hose. As it gets fuller, you have to slow down the flow
Lithium batteries are charged with a CCCV profile. Let's say you have a 2Ah cell. You charge at a constant 2A current, so it should take an hour to charge. The issue is that you can only charge at that current until the cell voltage reaches 4.2V (around 70-80% of charge depending on the cell), then you have to start lowering the current so you don't go over 4.2 or the cell will get damaged (and possibly explode). The closer you get to 100% the more you have to lower the current to keep the voltage in check.
I'm guessing Tesla would use an even more conservative charging curve to extend the life of the cells further.
So the charger is probably charging at 800km/h for the first 50%, 400km/h for the next 30%, 200 for the next 15, etc.
Thanks for the replies guys, I forgot that the charging speed will slow down after a point. My bad.
Best not to charge above 80% unless you need to anyway, bad for the battery (the closer you get to 100% the worse the wear)
I try to keep my phone between 45% and 75% (12% of a cycle wear for the 30% depth of discharge) using Accubattery to alert to unplug, and avoid charging when the phone is hot
I was very inspired by this review and went to the website to place an order: 750,000 Sek!
This is nutso pricing, at the peak of my petrol head phase I had a fully specced V10 BMW M5 and got change from £60k. How can Tesla charge such high prices? Isn't the 3 meant to be the "affordable Tesla"?
I seem to recall talk of it costing ~35k but I haven't found that price anywhere.
Sorry to be negative, I want to jump on the EV bandwagon but it's not sustainable for me at that price.
Lease plan was slightly cheaper, but they imposed a limit of 15000 km/year, which means I get to use my tesla for 3 months....
Based on the comments, the Anti-Musk crowd are sadly out in force! We simply love ❤️ both of our M3’s ... brilliant cars and I was not a fan until we drove one.... Thanks for the great review!
Everyone loves BMW M3s
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@@UnderWarranty The Tesla is faster and more reliable than the Bimmer
@@MyEyesBled hehe i was only joking but when people say M3 i always think of the BMWs but i would never buy German cars as it is just funding them to start a new world war!
Corn Pop Same must be said of China. E46 M3 was a good car if a little big and heavy
The range displayed on the screen takes into account headwinds, tailwinds, and terrain; weather you will be driving up hill and down hill. So, maybe the car’s estimation of range was spot on.
I LOVE MY Performance Model 3 !! 😍
I wish I could have bought a performance one. Next time