Tesla Model 3 RHD, Oil and Batteries | Fully Charged
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- Robert Llewellyn catches up on an interesting report from BNP Paribas, either the 5th or 8 largest bank in the world depending on who you ask, on their predictions for the future of EV vs ICE, and how the oil industry isn't quite changing as much as it may appear, and how batteries support the UK grid (for example the role of National Grid battery backup during the recent blackout in the UK)
Oh, and Robert's new Tesla Model 3! Including a rapid charging test comparing a Tesla Model S to this long range all wheel drive Tesla Model3!
BNP Paribas report bit.ly/2T7EASC
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Can't drive 5miles around here without seeing another new housing development, baffles me why they aren't forced to put Solar panels on all new builds.
In the U.K. Private housing is largely unregulated. Anything for a Local Housing Association will be built under government regulations and will certainly include solar or other green systems. Used to be covered under the Code for Sustainable Homes, but changed recently I believe. Have built a lot of Social Housing.
Matty M you have to do that in Ireland
They just passed a law in California to do just that for all new builds...2.5KW min is kinda low but its a start.
They should all be built to passiv standards. They moan about additional costs and training but that's simply excuses to live like relics
Matty M I’ve been saying this for years, I know why...... MPs are on the take from the energy companies, if solar was forced on new housing and had been for the last 5 years, they would be put off of business within 20 years. There is no other reason than that, our great British democracy is run by disgusting anti democratic self serving bastards.
Enjoy your model 3 Robert and thanks patreons 👍
Congrats on your new Model 3
I agree. Thanks Patreons
When I get a new car it comes with a goodie bag, a very nice flower arrangement that lasts at least 2 weeks, a bottle of fizz, and, _a tank full of juice_.
I don’t expect to have to fill up on the way home.
Great video as always, happy driving in the new car
is it possible to support fully charged directly? thanks and love you guys to bits....
are you going to do a video on the on the model 3's build quality and fit and finish?
The sound of the Model 3's tyres on the polished concrete must sound like Robert getting into his Kryten costume!!!
Excellent info as usual Robert, congrats on finally getting your hands on your model 3. My Zoe is feeling older and less awesome by the minute lol.
I have been a patrion supporter constantly since you started patrion on the channel, but I support at the lowest option which works out to about £2 a month. I don't even notice this donation even though I'm not rich. My hope in saying this is that more people will donate just a miniscule amount each month, and if just 10% of viewers were to do this then Robert and the team would have more money than they know what to do with and none of us would even feel it leave our bank.
This is quite possible the best show on TH-cam IMHO. Long may it continue.
So glad to see someone post about their support of this channel at any level and how it not only is of benefit but, that you don't notice the deduction at the beginning of each month. I hope more people will begin to think like you and follow your example to support what gives so much to them and what is less than a cup of coffee a month.
I'd rather give my patreon money to smaller creators who don't have as many already
Thanks for inspiring me to chip in a few bucks a month as well!
Know how you feel about the Zoe. I have one but reeeeeeealy want a model3
Great video 👍👌
I SO want a Model 3! ICE cars are doomed, and good riddance
No they are not, ICE cars will be around for a very long time to come. A lot of countries, developing countries are not yet able to accommodate EVs. Sub Saharan Africa for example doesn't even have widespread electricity for its people. EVs will not make it there for decades to come. In other developing countries, gas will remain cheaper than Electricity for sometime to come. Plus not everyone loves or wants an Electric Car, no doubt that EVs will takeover in due time. But it won't replace ICE cars.
@@nathangabriel2707 Furthermore, developed countries only want to legislate pollution levels because they damn well know that industry causes pollution, industry in 3rd world countries would create extremely cheap goods, which would make their economies sky rocket, guess what that causes... yes the shrinking and crashing or the developed worlds economies. Think about it for a few minutes. The developed economies is terrified of what they allowed China to do... go from a 3rd world country to a world power in less than a generation, think they'll let that happen again? Or just import low wage workers from the 3rd world... easy way to do it without war... make pollution targets that they simply cannot match, cant match.
@@nathangabriel2707 You clearly don't follow what's happening in Africa. Solar power is getting BIG in many rural parts of Africa. Like what happened in the cellphone industry. Africa was way behind in landline technology, but cellphone tech "leapgfrogged" landline and now, parts of Africa that never had phones are amongst the best-connected anywhere. In Kenya for example, most money exchange is done on mobile phones. They have one of the world's most advanced financial transaction systems - all done using phones. The same is happening in South Africa, Nigeria and Ghana. Rwanda is becoming a high-tech region and the economy is doing well.
In a few years, solar electricity will be pretty common-place, and cheap EV's (probably built in China) will be BIG in Africa. As is the case with much of rural Africa, cars won't be owned by individuals - but by the community. A small village will have a couple of EV's (probably 8 to 10 seaters) and they will be used as "taxi" type vehicles.
Sure... you won't see many Tesla's around but the Africans won't want or need them. Their EV's will be as technically capable as Golf Carts - that's all they need. Africa will be a BIG consumer of cheap EV's and other electronics as cheap electricity becomes common-place.
@@themightydash1714 Come to think of it, you're argument does have merit. China was an accident that was never supposed to happened in the minds of the Elites in the Developed countries. Its no wonder Sub Saharan Africa and other developing countries are stuck in the same position for decades. There are many, many other reasons why Africa isn't taking off economically and socially. But the polices of the developed world, mostly the US and Europe. Directly impacts Africa's development in a hard real term way. The importation of cheap labour is a fact, the developed world imports the College grads and University degree holders. Which causes brain drain in the developing world and stalls growth and development. What you said is indeed true, especially if one looks behind the curtains and rhetoric.
What EV do you currently drive?
Trouble is the majority of the people in the UK are indirect shareholders of fossil fuel companies as you put it. Contact your pension company and ask what companies make up your pension. Maybe BP and Shell should get into Lithium mining, but that's not ethical is it now.
I asked my IFA to avoid any pension investments in fossil fuel infrastructure which may become stranded. I was told that this will not significantly affect my pension fund performance, even in the short term.
Everyone should be asking their IFA about this.
@@tewrgh We all love a good IFA 😀
Huge thank you to the patreons ♥. Love fullychargedshow ♥
Glad that you've got a new motor. Perhaps you could consider talking about the differences between the new model 3 and the old Mitsubishi iMeiv that you started out with.
Also, if you've time another episode on second-hand electric cars would be great.
Really enjoying the new high-quality video.
FYI, Electric Vehicle Man channel has quite a few good videos on second-hand EV's.
Thank you for adding the figures for cost per kWh etc :)
It's ok to say you're a Tesla fanboy. They do make the best EVs to be fair
Of course, if it weren't for Tesla, I doubt there would be any EVs, as they effectively reinvented electric cars after Ford killed them off in the 1900s.
@@railwaymanjohn4721 And don't forget GM doing the same in the early 90's in the USA.
@@railwaymanjohn4721 The early 1900s weren't the last time EVs were around. They've popped up in nearly every decade since in some form. Milk floats here in the UK starting in the 50s or 60s (?) were always electric - very crude technology but they were still EVs. I think there was some kind of electric car made by an American company in the 60s but it didn't take off. The Enfield 8000 got a bit of press in the 70s. GM experimented with some neighborhood EV type things in the 70s and 80s and they were going to release an electric chevette (nothing to do with the other EVs they made as far as I know) if oil prices were going to go as high as they feared in the early 80s. Of course there's the famous GM EV1 of the 90s which triggered Tesla but was also the result of technology developed for the Australian solar car marathon. There's the infamous RevaI also known as the G-wiz from the early 2000s. Then at this point we are on to Tesla. In the late 90s there were a tonne of other low production EVs, mainly lease only like the EV1, usually based on existing cars like the Toyota RAV4 EV and I think there might have been a Honda as well. In the 80s there was a Sinclair C5 which people always seem to include in top 10 lists about cars even though it's not even as close to a proper car as a golf buggy.
It's Ok to be a Tesla fan, but it's not OK to be an obsessive Tesla fanboy/fangirl/fanwhateverelse. It's fine to be into Tesla and like them and everything but I cannot condone being an obsessive, especially an elitist one.
Social media is made for fanboys and all types of mindless rant and BS memes... it's far more fun than just talking about relevant facts...right or wrong we all here mostly for Robs rants....
I should think power cuts will be a thing of the past when we all have V to G and even home batteries.
Yes, many EVs (eventually( connected to the grid will replace the need for many natural gas (fossil fuel) peaker power plants.
I think my dad is right about how trucks being electric, they just need huge batteries that can be swapped out with forklift at stations, then obviously charge the battery for the next truck, easy. the best thing is you can have instant battery change and they can be charged nice and slowly over days.
@@gewizz2 Truckers are required to sleep a specific number of hours per day. That time can be used to charge a battery pack.
Hell for leather, so they say. Are they putting electric motors as the sole means of propulsion in their top selling vehicles? Are they still introducing new ice models? Name one legacy auto maker that has stated when all their production will be EVs. No, their message is still "please continue to purchase our ice models whilst we faff about deciding where this EV thing is taking us".
Smart
Congratulations on your Model 3. I’m about to hit 4k miles on mine and I love it.
What kind of motorway range / efficiency are you getting?
@@adsheff Largely it's irrelevant. Most driving is local, and Tesla has an excellent range and Supercharger fast charger network in the U.S., EU, Australia, China, Japan, etc., for long distance travel.
@@LoanwordEggcorn How much driving is local or long range depends on the driver. Do you know how much AdSheff drives locally and how much he/she drives long range?
@Loanword Eggcorn Alright. interesting information. It was just that you seemed to see Adsheff's comment as being about general adoption but I was thinking that they were asking the question for themselves.
@@adsheff I have a Long Range Model 3 with 19" Sport Wheels. My lifetime wh/mi is 262. Keep in mind since the car is new I've been doing a lot of fast 0-60 because its fun lol. I been averaging about 240-250 on my daily commute to work.
I'm paying £0.16/kwh on my fish farm just now, you can bet Tesla are paying wholesale + a tiny bit , say £0.06/kwh so these charge points are going to make big money for the life of the installation, that's why the likes of BP are installing them..money! when you have the forecourt you might as well. It's a captured market, we'll have no choice if doing a long journey unless private individuals like farmers can install chargers from their wind turbines/solar panels (via a big battery shed) ..that would be neat, they can advertise in their fields too so you know the price etc and buy some food from them.
Before long there'll be an app for these things that are on your planned route. I'd call it Ampetite. Or Voltulike. Or....
@@DavidOfWhitehills zapmap.
@@lmaoroflcopter Juice-to-go
@@lmaoroflcopter Leccybreak
I wouldn't worry too much. Once industry gets proper size competition will kick in and charging fees will drop severly.
I’d happily pay toward your Model 3! Enjoy the car and great work on this channel
Financial institutions and Insurance companies are now reassessing the risks of fossil fuel companies and the damage of Climate Crisis. Many have pulled back their investment support and insurance companies do not want to insure the risks. Will individual investors be the last one out the door and loose the most money.
The ignorant and uninformed... often are the ones who get hurt the hardest and if anyone doesn't know where, with whom or how their pension is being managed, for instance... they best find out. If the financial crisis we last had should have taught the average person anything it is, not knowing what is going on is not going to prevent, spare or withhold you from the consequences. So many people who were about to retire, couldn't and considering another fall is expected with jokers in charge..... it is going to not only going to hurt, many may never recover because the safety nets have been cut.
*_"Fake News"_** there will be millions of ICE Vehicles still on the roads 30 years or more from now.*
@@GrrMeister and there are still people that ride horses today. Gas and diesel are OLD obsolete polluting technology. Electric technology is just better and most people will realize that. No noise, no emissions, less fuel cost, less maintenance and lasts longer. There will always be people resistant to change.
@@KJSvitko *I'm far from Resistant to change, **_(and once had a Horse named Floyd)_** hence why watching this channel, however to be realistic EV's are at present only of practical value as a Second Car and as a rich **-man's-** persons plaything. When proper infrastructure in place, and prices fall to a more realistic level, I may reconsider an EV purchase viable. For what it's worth my present car is virtually silent above 30+ mph other than tyre noise on rough roads.*
GrrMeister EVs are a “rich man’s plaything?” What is this, 2009? Look at the trade-in data for the Model3. 63 percent of trade-ins are from non-premium vehicles, like the Honda Accord and Toyota Corolla. To call a vehicle that starts at 35k a “rich man’s plaything” is absolutely ridiculous, especially in 2019. Now the Audi étron or Porsche Taycan may be called that, but not the Model 3. Not any EV that starts under 40-50k.
1% or so of oil major spending just says everything you need to know.
I know what I’d be doing if I was in control of a company like Shell. Change the world immediately.
Losing lots of money is easy and quite quick so if your ideas didn't pan out then the shareholders would get you out as fast as they could. To somehow change the world and stay in charge - that is probably quite tricky.
Tim Murphy Not really. And who said anything about losing money?
You can't build an electric car without crude oil. Where do you think the paint, plastics and electrical insulation comes from? It comes from crude oil along with many other essential products (www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-products-made-from-crude-oil)
@@christill I just meant that it might be harder than it looks to turn these beheamoths into a force for good. Survival is rule 1 for most organisations so I can't see them pulling back from some activity that makes a lot of money and in which they have invested a lot until it stops doing so. Other energy investments are going to be more like insurance against future change than a drive towards change unless they make more money than the fossil fuels.
If you messed too much with that it might be difficult to stay in control.
Tim Murphy Well yeah. I mean if I came in and had a whole team dedicated to switching to sustainable practices. Basically if Tesla was running it.
I am proud to be Patreon supporter
Thanks patreons. I would also contribute but I'm saving up for a 2nd hand leaf
what? are you begging again?
@@gewizz2 dont think so, an excuse rather
Yeah...a buck a month will get you there a lot quicker.
Frankly Robert you can use my small Patreon donation to pay for your Tesla lease. I'm just happy that you're continuing to make great EV/renewables content.
Will you be doing anything on electric narrow boats as I live on a narrow boat and thinking about getting a new wide beam metric from desiel one I'm on now.
Yes that would be good I saw one in Canal Boat magazine last month.
I request the fully charged team to make content about the Amazon fire situation. It needs serious attention and your words can make an impact.
Whats the problem with it?
@@That1ufo it's on fire, apparently a youtube video will put it out.
Brazil’s far right president wants to build motorways,bridges hydroelectric dams along the Amazon , I think fires in the Amazon are up 84% this year . Putting two and two together it appears Brazil is burning the Amazon on purpose
One solution is to stop eating beef, the primary cause of Amazon deforestation.
Trump puts tariffs on soy, so China goes to Brazil.
Bolsonaro obliges and burns down the Amazon to make more soy for cattle feed.
If someone took away 20% of your lungs, I'm sure you'd have something to say about it!
This is an act of vandalism tantamount to an act of war on all humanity and life itself that should be resisted with all necessary means.
Could you please make a video highlighting U.S. fossil fuel subsidies?
And what can U.S. citizens do to eliminate them?
The best thing citizens can do to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies is to get as many Republicans out of government as possible.
@@zzanatos2001 I agree that it is a good first step
. . . . yet another rant from Bobby Lew!!! Yes yes yes were are all aware of the fossil v clean issues - you would better serve the cause by focusing on the all the positives of ev's, clean technologies and new developments rather than your clear skewed and jaundiced views of the oil industry. Growth in ev sales and the market will tell them they are flogging a dead horse not you rants. For me is an immediate switch off now and I also cancelled my Patreon support. I am an absolute fan of ev, sustainable tech and living but your rants have become just tiresome. Bye
Congrats on the model 3 ,you lucky boy 😊👍
Today I went to do a job in a region of my country that has literally hundreds of wind turbines.
I was at a distance of less than 100 meters and I noticed something. You can't ear them working.
Some people (morons) say that it makes noise pollution because they are too loud. Its a lie.
And some say it ruins the view. I love it. Its beautiful to see those amazing machines working and to think that they are giving us almost 100% clean energy is a bless.
Supposedly it's very high-frequency stuff the turbines produce that you can't hear which causes the tinnitus. I can understand that: I have mild tinnitus in my left ear because of a computer fan on the left side of an old laptop that was very quiet to my audible hearing, but had very heavy high-frequency content. My right ear is just fine.
Hmm Wind Turbines makes plenty of noise there are a few, thousand, of them here in Scotland but I guess calling people who can hear them "morons" says all it needs to about the validity of your comment.
@Michael Ball, high and low frequency sound is generated the most common one blamed is the low frequency or infrasound generated which quite a few people are sensitive to.
@@1001ewaste HI.
Either I don't know how to express myself in English, witch is normal because its not my native language, or, you can read English but you don't understand it.
I didn't called morons to people that can hear wind turbines. I called morons to the people that say wind turbines make noise pollution because they are to loud. They are not loud. Im sure you can find many places near your home that make as much or more noise than a wind turbine.
Congratulations Robert. Enjoy your new car. Please make more videos about it.
Shout out to the patreon supporters, and anyone else who's quite tired and wants their tea.
Great video!!! greetings from Mexico!! 🥰🇲🇽🌮🌯
Not a Tesla fanboy, not a Tesla fanboy...... much.....at least on this occasion. 😋😋😋😁😁😁
Congratulations on your new Model 3. I'm dead jealous!!! I'm off to cry myself to sleep wishing I had one too. Oh well. Dreams are free, fantasies cost extra - a whole lot extra!! 😭😭😭😟😟😟
Oh for the love of peat...just realized you played Kryten on Red Dwarf...clueless in Canada
99% of U.K workers who pay into a work placed pension or private pension own shares in Oil & Gas companies , earning approx 6% dividends p.a.....so very good for those saving for retirement
in 100yrs historians and the average person in the street will look at the years between 1840-2040+ 200+yrs of oil history and realizing we burnt 90% of it...
Love the video! But why do you say in every video about Tesla that you're not a Tesla fan? You never say anything similar about other brands although the reviews of other brands are just as glowing as this one. Is liking a Tesla car something to be ashamed of? Hope not because that would be silly.
I think it's because there is an army of fanatical Tesla fans who love to comment, if you want an example scroll through the comments on the recent Porsche Taycan episode, so I want to remain as impartial as possible. We also have a Hyundai Kona and we love it, and we had a Leaf for 8 years and we love it.
So I'm not ashamed, what tesla have done is shatter all the criticisms and doubts fostered by the automotive industry and the oil companies, for all the companies shortcomings and the idiosyncrasies of their CEO, they have done an amazing job.
It won't be long till they double the range to 1000km - that's gonna be a game-changer imo
You do not need that, but if you want
Game changer for what? Most people drive 20km each day, LOL. The only reason you need range is to get between charging points. That problem is now solved.
@@vidznstuff1 No - we deliver goods and for that 350 / 400km of range is just not enough.
The charging times should improve as well.
The whole electric infrastructure has to grow massively to support more electric vehicles. To be fair it is but not fast enough imo
@@Raymaster7482 Tesla is currently at 600km range. What's your problem, again, lol?
@@vidznstuff1 that the theoretical optimum range. In the winter with heating and everything it goes down to 350 - 400km
So how do you suggest I start pushing the EV and renewables on a state and country that is so resistant to it? Few weeks ago one of the biggest cities in Montana, Billings, just approved a 42 acre solar farm and that made me happy. My hometown on the other hand, nothing. I have to do something, I can't just stand and let this place fall deeper into the diesel and gas anymore.
24p per kWh is better than some other rapid chargers at full price. Like you, I mainly charge using sunlight through a Zappi. As to power cuts, I had the new gateway fitted to my PW2 so will not suffer them.
I want clean air just like everyone else, however, getting all smug about charging an EV from a clean grid glosses over a few key points.
Chief of which being that the acres of plastic, and all of raw materials in an EV are made from, or mined and smelted by fossil fuels.
I work for an underground mining company at a small copper mine in Australia. We are currently using at least 120,000lt of Diesel fuel on site per WEEK just to mine and bring the raw copper ore to the surface. The small on site mill refines the ore using coal fired power to a concentrate.
This is then shipped overseas in a heavy crude oil powered bulk carrier to be further refined in a coal powered smelting process.
Copper is just one commodity used to make an EV, but I think you can see the process I'm getting to.
Yes, the EV is great at the tailpipe, and it's an important thing in the city centres, however the whole process to get it to market, including shipping from overseas & towing the car on a diesel semi trailer transporter to the dealer, is completely reliant on fossil fuels.
These facts remain regardless of idioligy, personal vehicle fuel use, while significant, is a small percentage of the full picture.
Yes, but you're preaching to deaf ears. No one wants to hear how dirty their EV's really are.
I waited two and a half years for my Model 3 here in Canada so I can well understand how excited you were to finally pick yours up. Congrats! :D
I was wondering if you could comment about how the battery holds up to winter driving in your Model 3.
I do agree on your opinion BUT oil companies will only change when the price of Electric cars come down to a price range that the common person can afford, I work for an electric vehicle company and cannot afford an electric car, so I drive a fuel efficient dirty diesel, but if the electric cars would be the same price as a petrol/diesel then I will be willing to buy one, Take for instance A Kia Niro hybrid is half the price of the fully electric WHY?
I’m not sure if it’s the same elsewhere in the world, but in America petrol stations generally make almost no profit (often a loss) on the actual petrol... the profit comes from the shop.
Petrol costs about 3 times as much here in the UK compared to the USA.
Yep your right, most of our petrol stations are attached to the supermarkets here and they don't make much on the fuel, they just want you to shop there rather than the super market down the road. Hopefully the supermarkets will provide cost or free charging one day.
@@StephenHitchens He's talking about profit not cost. It's a question of how competitive the market is. A highly competitve market will drive profit down to nearly 0. Also important to point out that he's talking about the what the station pays per gallon vs the price it sells. Most other points in the petroleum supply chain there is profit, just not at retail.
Ask the question: How much of the price of fuel is TAX?
And to follow another earlier point: When there are no longer enough fossil cars paying Tax, expect it to be put on EVs as well. (Make the most of it being tax free while it lasts!)
Yeah, my original point (that I didn’t actually type out) was that the stations would likely be thrilled to remove petrol storage/pumps in favor of charging stations... that’s all. Tho, the future loss of revenue from petrol taxation (and what should be done with that money now) is a real issue... can you impose a tax on electrons you harvest yourself?
Are you going to comment on the stories of piss-easy Tesla thefts going round?
"She feels tighter than the model S, I just love it" Oh, Robert...
It's his wide eyed boyish super enthusiasm that gets to you isn't it?!
Even if most of it is total nonsense....!!!
Found the first fault on your new car: the steering wheel is misplaced 😊. Keep on your good show 👍🏻
@Pete is never wrong GO PETE!
I wonder when the petrol stations will realise the money they lose to EVs will probably be more than made up with sales of coffee and Mars bars if they install chargers
Well, I expect they already know this but, hey... they're aren't actually very many EVs on the roads yet so things need to evolve....
And if masses of people decide that they want an EV anytime soon then they can't have one because there's cock-all available to buy at the moment.....!
Actually, I know some people who work at petrol stations, and at the moment their daily income from the shop is about the same as from fuel they sell. In my hometown of Riga, one fuel chain even opened a shop in the Old Town, without petrol station attached to it.
Airport shutdowns?? No emergency generators to keep things going?? You need to change crack dealers!
One airport - Newcastle airport's non-essential loads were disconnected for 18 minutes, their uninterruptible power supply and backup generators operated normally for the essential loads. They were not registered as a Protected Site under the electricity supply emergency code which would have prevented them being selected for low frequency demand disconnection (LFDD)... But they submitted their request to be one to the local network operator the Monday after the power cut (!) The network operator is reviewing the sites connected to their LFDD scheme as well!
@@123louisp Thank you for clearing that up. Unimaginable!
Emergency generators keep the air and ground traffic control systems running, and the various light and radio beacons, and probably the airport security, operations, and communication systems. The backup generators probably do not feed the restaurant ovens, luggage conveyor system, point-of-sale systems, etc. So the airport closes, effectively. In my experience (in 2003) you don't really want many aircraft landing in a blacked-out city in any case.
Presumably the Patreon supports goes toward paying your staff as well. I very much hope that, as much as you're all enthusiastic about your job here, that you are paying your staff and yourself. That payment allows your staff to feed, cloth, house and entertain themselves and their families, and it's a totally valid use of funds. It infuriates me when people argue that funds should only be used for equipment or tangible improvements to the channel. Having a good, healthy and happy staff makes a great channel too. All of this is, however, a moot point if you have different revenue streams to cover different expenses, like maybe the sponsorships cover wages? Either way, your staff are wonderful, do a wonderful job, and I'm happy to support their lives too.
I am a pateron as well and I do believe that the funds cover more than just the equipment as I think they have stated when their new editor was hired as well as a few other members of staff. They have a great crew and I agree, that we can't live on just passion alone so that is being covered. It is a treat to see what they do with the funding and the love for their subject matter and how we have all benefited from their quality work.
It's sad that hate is so palpable that you have to give excuses for being a Tesla fan. Ridiculous situtation. Jonny Smith and his ilk must be fuming right now =)
You really think that hate DOESN'T come from some of the Fanbois?????
You need a dose of reality dude....
It is a constant dose of reality unfortunately...
Big oil fanbois are constantly spewing forth lies, accusations, and exaggerations switching up on who starts conflagrations so hypocritical causing extreme exasperation incapable of any form of realization within their big oil bubble of insulation from their puppet Masters they receive their broken record consultation could there ever be any mediation since their thoughts are so irrational it seems they need medication in reality they need to sit down and relax in meditation to try and wake up without any hesitation to see this real world in its critical situation.
Congratulations on getting your M3, I picked up mine on the 14th and think its the best car I have ever owned since I started driving in 1974. My first car was a 1969 Austin Cambridge previously owned by British Rail and came complete with a massive spanner in the boot, presumably for tightening railway lines, and British Rail Policeman's mac, it cost £189.
BTW: I topped up my M3 at South Mimms Services earlier today and met a gentleman who had named his Model X "Kryten".
LOL I hope Robert sees this comment! Enjoy your model 3!
According to National Grids own Interim report Hornsea Windfarm tripped first from 799MW down to 62MW then Little Barford CCGT lost a steam turbine ST1C a loss of 244MW therefore manually tripping out the Gas Turbine side as part of normal response GT1A therefore down another 210MW. GT1B then also tripped with another 187MW.
The other big loss of infeed was from 500MW of embedded generation e.g. rooftop solar and smaller wind farms connected directly to the distribution network. (Buzzwords here is Vector shift and loss of mains)
National Grid was running with 1GW of cover as per their regulatory requirement but we're in the hole for nearly double that amount (Y)
Frequency response by this point is under way with frequency sensitive relays at large consumers being tripped and things like 350MW of frequency sensitive demand being disconnected, this is not "load shedding" as it's a different category, additional generating kicking in etc therefore frequency response delivers about 1GW which isn't enough.
Therefore we enter Low Frequency Demand Disconnection (LFDD) or "load shedding" to make up the other 1GW'ish or about 5% of grid demand at the time.
The saviours of the day are as always the pumped storage facilities on the grid that once instructed to by National Grid threw a couple of thousand tons of water per second at the problem to make things go away.
The big things for anyone interested to go read about are grid inertia, the more renewable the less inertia, how this impacts RoCoF and what it means for grid stability.
Batteries are nice and all that, they help a bit with ancillary services but for meaningful storage noticeable at the grid level it's not going to happen cost effectively.
Massive government subsidies to the oil industry? I owned an independent exploration company in the US and I don't recall getting any subsidies .. ever. Perhaps the UK government does. I suspect you're just reciting Memes you've heard but this comment brings into question the validity of anything you said. Perhaps you should support these types of comments with facts.
BTW . .. I am a huge Tesla fan .. love the movement away from ICE to electric.
The government bleeds the oil industry for all it can get in the UK. We also pay about two thirds or more of what it costs us to fill up our tank to the government in taxes. Then there's the road fund license which the electric car buying middle classes don't pay. Taxpayers must also subsidise the purchase of electric cars, and the installation of publicly funded charging stations. He is just regurgitating anti-oil and anti-ICE car memes. Your suspicion is fully justified. Once the plebian masses are forced off of the roads, thanks to the cost, those taxes will be heaped onto the narrow shoulders of our 'betters'. They can't see that far ahead though. I also hope that electric cars can be made to work economically BTW.
‘Quite tired and I want my tea.’ 😂
Enjoy your shiny new ‘ting. 👌
£300 refund? OMG - how much is the policy? You refund is almost double the cost of my whole, complete, total annual premium! You really are living on a different planet......!
Indeed £211 renewal for me and I'm mid 20's.
Air travel is still largely dependent on fossil fuels though
Compared to cars they are much more efficient due to how many goods and people they can move per plane, but these very same planes can be hybrid and are being developed to use much less fuel, plus battery electric flight is coming online for short hope flight that burn nothing. Watch older episodes of Fully charged to see when this was being talked about and I think this year he announced new of BEV planes that will be or are in service. There is a place in Canada in Vancouver I think that converted all of their seaplanes to all electric, so even the sky is not a limit. Keep your chin up... their is a solution to every problem.
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The 10 largest container ships pollute as much as every car.
Much easier to change 10 ships to nuclear power, than convert millions of car to electric.
Planes weigh less and less as they consume fuel while flying. You can't say that about electrics with their heavy batteries. Even those that are fully electric and flight capable aren't good for long distances
What "tax breaks" do oil companies get? The last time I looked, governments across Europe collect enormous taxes on every single liter of petrol sold while giving enormous incentives and tax breaks to "green" technology.
Oil companies get $5 Trillion in government subsidies per year according to the International Monetary Fund: www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2019/05/02/Global-Fossil-Fuel-Subsidies-Remain-Large-An-Update-Based-on-Country-Level-Estimates-46509
Would you mind to talk us throughbhow you get a lease on it?
I would like to get one sooner rather than later ;)
I'm pretty sure Robert used www.drive-electric.co.uk for the Model S, not sure about the 3. Having used them myself I can say they are really super helpful, can give good advice and (if you are looking for other cars) can help you decide if you aren't sure. They have Model 3 leases on the website, but if you contact them they can personalise it for you. You will need to know your annual mileage and how many years you want to lease the car for (and what optional extras you are interested in). If you decide to go ahead you'll need about 3 months of monthly payments up front as a deposit (note they need a debit card/bank transfer NOT a credit card for this transaction, which caught me out and needed some quick reworking of finances!).
So far had my Soul EV for nearly a year and they have been absolutely brilliant with any query I have (having never leased before) no matter how silly it must seem to them. Seriously can't recommend them enough and at this stage (with a couple of years to go) I have to agree with Robert, I would never "buy" a car again. Hope that was helpful!
I've got a Model 3 on lease in the US. It's just a checkbox and a slider on the Tesla web site when you buy the car. The checkbox to indicates that you want to lease the car, then a slider is used to calculate how much your monthly payment will be based on the amount of money you put down and the number of miles per year you want included in the lease (more miles equals more expensive.)
@@obanarama That sounds even easier!
@@obanarama That's great but it sounds horribly like the way easy sell US house mortgages eventually crashed the global economy to me?
@@jonathankeenan5163 Oh there's a whole credit check and real application process that follows the web site sign up. I'd imagine they aren't approving everyone. But who knows!?!
Hi Robert, it would be great to see a video from you giving an overview of the whole Tesla experience. Communication, servicing, issues, issue resolving etc. as there have been a lot of conflicting reports all over about how good they are at all the other stuff, besides building cars.
Yep, the RHD Model 3 is coming to Australia. Can't wait to see them around and about!
any idea how much they will cost? pretty sure nobody leases them here though... which is sad
i was totally just trying to convert pence per mile to AUD per km in my head... nope... its too early for my brain to entertain that craziness
Not sure how much they'll be. I'm keeping an eye on the auto pages in the papers. Does anyone lease the models X and S at the moment? Not sure, but I see lots of them about. I don even know who you'd buy or lease a Tesla FROM !!!
...and did you get a government subsidy for your home solar system? Did the solar company, as well?
Robert, i absolutely love your channel and have spent a lot of hours watching your content. Please do not become that person that uses a phone/camera/GoPro while driving! it drives me insane. 10:58 to 11:06 :(
Indeed. Not cool.
As more demand is put on the infrastructure for electricity to charge cars and the like rest assured the cost for electric will rise. No government is going to let revenue from petrol and diesel sales dwindle away. They will always get their pound of flesh. So enjoy the cheap electric for now - it won't last forever.
Totally agree..you need to generate your own clandestine power somehow
Congrats on the new EV!
10:50 Someone has a rubber fetish 😂
So fossil fuels are ok as long as they are for making plastics and EV's
Correct
Why don't they tell you how big the battery is?? You should have the right to know what you're paying for. It's like refusing to tell you how many CCs your engine is.
Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think hardware wise the top ranges are built the same but are software limited
Pretty sure the standard is 50kw and the long range is 75kw.
Unbelievable your new car wasnt fully charged!
Thank you Robert for such great content. My soul has been charged up watching this video. I'm very excited that you are a Model 3 owner. I'm glad you got your Right hand drive dual motor Tesla Model 3. Robert did you buy Full Self driving? I'd love to know.
Ahmad Haruman It was in show, liquid battery in Australia. They are low density but they can be use at domestic systems, if you have space
Very happy for you Robert! You look great in that M3 too. Yes...it's convenient at times to rapid charge my Leaf (LEA) at BPs petrol stations. Bathroom, snack, lottery = 15 minutes/$4-5 (+30-50mi depending how low I started at). Yes...they can do better. All will be better soon! Keep up the great work sir.
Saw 2 Model 3’s today on the M42/M5
i hope you are more lucky with the Tesla3 than some of the germans have with the quality and things not being fixed.
9 minutes of ranting - geez
Congratulations on your purchase of your £50K+ model 3. But spare a thought for the vast majority of people for whom this is completely out of their league..
How was this car supposed to be ever the affordable EV for the masses that Elon Musk touted it as? I am so heartily sick of it.
Imagine I owned a 20 bedroom mansion with a swimming pool, extensive gardens ..etc and kept showing off and boasting to everyone how absolutely lovely and fantastic and beautiful my mansion is and how everyone should just get one. That should give an indication to all you smug Tesla owners how you sound to those for whom these fantastically expensive cars are an insanely unaffordable and unreachable fantasy.
Give it time for used one to become available. Have a look at a used Leaf, or Leasing. I might be able to afford a used model 3 if used ones become cheap in 5 years. At the moment I could afford a used 5 year old Leaf which are selling for 1/6 of their original price.
He’s leasing it
Your mate, Mr Koch has dropped dead. One down, one to go.
Are you saying one of the Koch brother has died? I am going to check, but I also feel a bit sad that my first reaction was not sadness... not in the least. Clearly I understand the sentiment and have to work on being a better person, but %&*^ those guys have a lot to answer for in my book.
Question for all: So what you would rather buy: new model 3 or second-hand model S (with comparable range) and basically the same price?
I'd take a used Model S for the Hatchback.
I’d take a new model Y. (Oh Darn, they’re not here yet!)
On the grid, people think that coal plants are perfect and always on and renewables are unreliable. But Murphy says that everything fails at some point and having a 500 MW coal plant drop off line due to a failure is a huge problem while if you have one out of a 1000 wind generators fail, it is not a big deal. Thus you have to have extra large power plants always running, burning coal, called "spinning reserve", wasting energy and money to cover for a failure. Australia has already shown that having batteries on the grid instead of extra power plants is cheaper.
I am so happy that Australia gave Elon that challenge and that the people of Australia are better off today because of this proof battery storage tied to the grid. Did you know they have paid off the cost of installation already? So many more "megapacks" are going to come online shutting down coal and gas peaker plants especially after the big utility megapack in California for PG&E goes online later this year early next. The proof is in the bottom line and the efficiency . I wonder if they will be able to keep up with demand!?
So rather than have a 500MW Coal unit trip we have 700MW of Wind Farm trip as at Hornsea Windfarm, this will be 1.2GW by the time Hornsea Project 1 is completed similar to Sizewell Nuclear power station. The reason for either tripping or dropping off is the similar, statistically it's not the plant itself but an issue with the grid connection and regardless of the technology it's largely connected to the wider world in the same manner a whacking great step up transformer. Wind power adds new and interesting failure modes from the power electronics perspective of non-synchronous distributed generation which can cause interesting cascade failures or trips across a wind farm due to things like lightning or sudden wind gusts as the propagate through the farm. This is apparently being investigated by Orsted in related to the failure of Hornsea as is the vector shift method of loss of mains protection for embedded renewables, not an insurmountable problem and arguably teething issues as we get used to intermittent generation.
Coal Plants also provide ancillary grid services that Wind turbines do not, arguably we should be doing the same as Quebec and forcing wind 'farmers' to also provide the ancillary services they need rather than simply expect the Grid to provide them. Coal plants can also ramp up and down to meet demand within an efficiency band this is what forms your spinning reserve although this is largely covered by CCGT plants which have a far wider efficiency band and exceptional ramp rate therefore are arguably perfect for peaking and reserve roles on the grid.
However with the continuing growth of intermittent renewables that are placed onto the grid so too does the demand for separate replacement ancillary services providers and truly dispatchable backup generation grow alongside it. Arguably in the UK we should be building additional pumped storage capacity with project like Coire Glas and Balmacaan each able to store around 30GWh which would add back a bit of the ancillary services cushioning to the National Grid and providing somewhere to store some wind rather than paying hundreds of million in curtailment costs to wind farms in Scotland on an annual basis.
Australia has proven no such thing, they are using battery technology to provide the ancillary grid services that renewables like wind cannot supply themselves but traditional generation already provided by design. It's essentially offsetting the instability penalty for running non-synchronous renewables on a synchronous network.
Worth a watch about grid inertia th-cam.com/video/LfH-Vagz-zE/w-d-xo.html
Also the terms Vector Shift, RoCoF which come up in the video I believe as does synchronous condensers etc.
The Tesla odd car the Model 3, The only car which somehow breaks the law that makes every other car ever made place a speed display in FRONT of the driver just below the windscreen so they can safely glance down to check speed and back up to watch the road for safety reasons? This is not a mere request by the safety law makers for all cars ever built ( including all other EV's too ) It is a road safety law that has shaped the design and building of all cars. Now along come the only car ( Tesla model 3 ) to break that rule and move the speed display away from the stated law must be placement and puts it over to our left and down in the middle of the dash on a flat LCD screen where you have to either turn your eyes away from the front view to look at it or turn you whole head to look at it for allot longer than you would be glancing down at the original paced drivers speed display? I amazed that the safety and road driving law makers would let Tesla break that rule of where the speed display is build in the car! It is a very dangerous placement of a important display, I really amazed that this car was not banned for such a bad placement of something you need in your line of sight. I know I will never buy a model 3 or the horrible Model Y ( the clone of the model 3 with a different body shell and the same horrible bad designed interior layout. ) Even if I could afford a Tesla. it never be those two or any copy of them.
I call BS on that law(?), there would never have been the Austin A20 or any Mini (original or BMW) all had speedos in the middle of the dash. If anything the speedo on the Model 3 is to the driver's side of the screen and therefore closer to the driver than any of the cars I mentioned.
Only car? Don't know where you have been hiding, the Prius has had the speedo in the center of the dash for years.
Will they (BP) power thist fast chargers from diesel burning engines hided in toilets?
Sure, they also harvesting urea for the AddBlue from the waterless urinals in the men's restrooms 😁
What do you think plastic is made from.
WARNING: As a Model 3 Performance owner with over 8k miles (13k km) on mine, I warn you that you'll be smiling even wider!!
Robert, it’s okay to be a Tesla fanboy.
I am not a Tesla fan boy but I can’t stop talking about how GREAT my car is -really I am not -but what an AWESOME car it is !!!! -my wife loves hers, I love mine, Really really really good cars-efficient, love autopilot.....
Your excitement about the car is infectious. I hope you will give rides to others who may decide to make the switch. It is people like your self and your wife that are helping to make big changes happen in the EV world.
@@dr-k1667 Everyone that will go for a ride. Literally so much fun! Who knew driving could be fun?
Yep - we should DEFINITELY all rush out and spend £80,000 on two cars!!
I love your enthusiasm ! Tesla’s are awesome we are on our third and your passion is contagious especially exciting for the UK!! Bravo!! Enjoy that right-quick dual-motor!
TESLA DESPERATELY NEEDS TO OFFER MORE THAN FIVE DRAB COLORS. EASY TO LOSE YOUR CAR IN A LOT FULL OF THEM.
Tesla is not large enough for that, people have to go to a body shop if they want more.
They won't tell you the battery size? Very odd
Is it possible to do a film on the national grid highlighting the recent power outages and with how they were able to remedy the situation.
That is a great idea. I doubt the BBC or Daily Mail will want to cover it without scaring people to death... and we could then pass the video on to decision makers and of course friends and family members.
Also what are the chances or 2 generators going offline at the same time especially due to a lightning strike.
@@dr-k1667 Oh no - not another tedious BBC basher. You're deluding yourself if you think the BBC is in any way biased in its reporting of the news.
When are you naieves going to learn - it's the LISTENER who has the bias....!!
'Robert is not a Tesla fanboy' nor is the pope a catholic.
Zygmunt The Cacao Kakistocrat If you had a Tesla I bet you would be fanboy as well. Tesla has that effect on you.
msvinth Agree, but the whole “Tesla fanboy” label is bloody stupid anyway. Why is it necessary to label someone who admires a brilliant company which is changing and improving the world as a “fanboy” anyway.
I think the term was invented by those who are jealous, and can’t afford one YET.
How is the build quality? It’s the one thing I hear about Teslas
The new ones are supposedly better. Bob Lutz looked at one, recently, and was impressed by the panel gaps.
never give up! gratz on the upgradish downgrade :)
he makes his money dressing as a robot.
It's very easy to shout the benefits of electric vehicles when you live in a house that has a driveway or garage where a charging unit can be installed.
Think about the major cities and the houses without a driveway or a garage. Every street/road will have to be dug up and massive cables laid to supply the street chargers. This will be civil works on an unprecedented scale. Then there is the problem of balancing the current drawn against the capacity available. Perhaps Robert, you would like to address that rather than tell us how good electric cars are.
Solutions first and then sell the cars.
There was an episode just before this one that does just that... please look at the urban mobility charging of the future. This issue has been addressed about three time with different solutions on this very channel going back about the last 6 years. It's not that people 40% who don't have a garage or off street parking are new in the UK and other places... so solutions have been created and it also goes in hand with charging stations in urban areas that currently also sell petrol.
@@dr-k1667 I have looked but a search does not throw up such an episode. A link would help.
However, none of the solutions such as existing petrol stations, car parks, supermarkets etc. will solve the problem. Drive down any big city street and you will see cars bumper to bumper parked in the road because there are no driveways. Car owners will not fight for the handful of charging points in supermarkets and petrol stations. Car owners want the charging point at their home. It is a civil engineering nightmare that no one has addressed.
@@dr-k1667 OK, found it under a different title.
It does not address the millions of charging points that will be needed in dense urban areas. At best it may supply a few tens of thousands of points and everyone will be fighting for one. Then you would have to leave your car while it charges and even on a fast charge that is an hour or so.
It is a disaster waiting to happen and the sale of electric cars will be so slow that prices will remain high and second hand combustion engine cars will become very, very popular.
The supply issue has to be addressed first and that requires local councils working with power companies. The cost to the electric car owner will be astronomical as all of the costs will be passed on.
I wonder how much oil you use (not including a car).
strange lee The Tesla itself is full of it. Every single bit of plastic including pretty much all the interior, the pleather or synthetic fibre seats, all the electrical cable insulation .. it's all derived from oil.
Enjoy the m3, I’m getting mine in oct
Congratulations on you M3 LR ^_^ I've loved my SR+ since I got it in June