Drives me nuts. There was enough time, all the time in the world actually. Konami decided not to allow more time to fix, which is not the same thing. To this day we don’t have a dignified version of SH 2-3-4 to play on flat screen hd tv. I don’t understand this, SH would be super successful, it would sell well, all the other franchises have done this. Except for the most betterer games from 20 years ago that are still inexplicably only playable on ps2. On a tv where it looks like garbage.
@@leeartlee915 yeah… but at least fix it after?! It’s particularly bad with remasters. I heard lots of stuff about how this so called remaster was made and… damn. There’s no excuse. Tomm Hulett got rammed for this, but in the end it comes down to Konami being the absolute worst.
@@nickl9317 Konami is the saddest case in the video game industry. They went from being a industry leader to an afterthought. Products like this don’t help their case.
Alright title, but kinda loses some of the more intricate and best qualities of the first two games. It feels more like an stripped down version of the first game.
It is definitely simplified, with more linear levels and enemy patrol behaviour, as well as storytelling. The streamlined sight jacking mechanics may take away some of the atmosphere for some, I simply see them as a move away from pretentious fake difficulty towards a less obnoxious, if not ideal solution. Overall, I found Blood Curse solid enough; it's not like the originals were masterpieces either.
You were the reason we went out to get the Splatterhouse remake as well. It’s a ton of fun even though it has a ton of issues. Having the original games included makes it one of the best packages out there. Also no remake will ever top RE 1’s just for how revolutionary it was
So true that remake was truly incredible both then and now. Back then though it was mind-blowing. Ah yes, the last time Nintendo had a powerful console, those were the days.
Splatterhouse 2010 is truly the definition of "diamond in the rough". I would love to see someone take another crack at it. Also amazing soundtrack, introduced me to FFDP
Shattered Memories is one of my favorite games ever. I sort of just bought it on a whim, expecting a quirky wii-tastic take on Silent Hill, but its innovative approach to storytelling and level progression really caught me by surprise, and the twist ending I got really stuck with me for a while. It was perhaps a little *too* ahead of its time: some of it’s ideas (esp the ice sequences) are a bit clumsy in execution, but Climax Studios’ heart and ambition ultimately shine through. I have a great appreciation for Wii games that made the most of the consoles’s unique strengths, and Shattered Memories is one of the best examples. An essential game for any Wii collector.
I'll only Say this: since your review of horror games last year, I am waiting for you to talk about that The Ring game on Dreamcast. Never knew about its existance, and I am quite the intrigued chap now.
The problem with remakes (like the ones Konami makes) is that they don't put money into them and that's why they end up being crappy, Capcom shows that when you actually put money into the project you can also make money out of it
Nice video guys! It was great having Matt and Derek interact. I really liked this format as something different from your usual format, much more casual and just some people hanging out and being nerds.
Since we're including reimagining i'm going to include Siren: Blood Curse. Its a reimagining of the Forbidden Siren games and its a damn good and damn scary game. Also Alone in the Dark 360 which was a nooooooooooooo.
some years ago I almost bought the Wii version of AitD but the guy on walmart could not find the key to open the case and I had to go I believe it was a sign saving me
@@samz8691 although you're right it definitely wasn't sold as that and just had the generic name of Alone in the Dark. Also I hate there's a 5 second line that's like Oh btw this is a sequel that's just out of nowhere.
One of my favorite horror remakes is actually Corpse Party. The original game was a small game made by only a few people using RPG Maker on the PC-98. The version we eventually got in the US in 2011 for the PSP is actually the third remake of that game. Corpse Party first got remade for mobile phones, then the PC and finally the PSP version was released but even that was followed by another upgraded port for the 3DS. So there are like 5 different versions of that game.
My personal problem with the resident 2 remake is that my absolute favorite part of resident evil 2, the reason is one of my favorites, is the Side A and Side B system, and they take my favorite part away. Look i know that they exist in some way in the game, but is so far appart that its almost unrecognizable. Precisely what was so brilliant about mister x is that he only shows up when you are already familiar with the enviroments. So when you start to fill confident, thats when he showed up. Resident evil 2 was built in a way that you kind of have to finish it 4 times to see everything, and those 4 times are different enough from each other that each of them are worth playing. Thats why its hard for me to consider it the definitive version, unlike REmake 1 which only added more things to the experience, instead of substracting them.
I can get this argument. I found it super weird that there was A and B scenarios but one doesn't affect the other. I understand it was minimal in the original, but the scale grows. I liked the idea of Leon getting one key and Claire the other, but I find the idea of a second, albeit stronger handgun weird? Could've done slight nods to it in the A scenario in general that 'I should leave some for the other survivors/Leon/Claire' as to why they don't take everything. Maybe reset puzzles by having it that zombies broke it by chance for a fresh take. They already said what needed to be said about X Also, with the first REmake, the reason things worked so well is that, from my understanding, a lot of this was already ready. Just that the technology wasn't prepped for that stuff yet. Why it meshes so well as it did
@@Sanodi21 yeah... In the original if you play leon A and claire B it felt like a continuation of a story, not like a remixed campaign. It made it more believable that both characters were going through their side of the game at the same time. The difficulty increased from one half to the other, so it added a little strategy for what to take and what to leave for the other character, even if it was minimal as you said, it made feel more involved. I mean the game is still great, don't get me wrong, it just will make it harder in the future when i want to replay RE 2 and have to decide which version to play, instead of just picking the definitive one, like i do with RE 1. The only reason for me to go back and play the original RE 1 is nostalgia
Agreed. I played through with Leon and only played a small amount of Claire. I didnt want to immediately basically replay the game. I understand it is a little different but not different enough and didnt feel like a continuation of the first part more like just redoing the same thing again slightly differently.
I would also like to bring up the soundtrack. I absolutely adore the sound design of the RE2R, but when i got my hands on RE2 for Gamecube, the soundtrack of that game became a glaring miss for the Remake for me.
This was a great collaboration video. Matt and Derek have great back and forth. I would not mind seeing further cross overs in the future between the two channels.
I think RE2Make is much better when you look at it as a reimagining. I love that the original game stands out and is not invalidated by RE2Make, but rather each of them have something unique to offer that isn't necessarily inferior or superior to the other.
If anyone wants to try Shattered Memories, one minor tweak to make the chase scenes go from annoying to tolerable is to turn off your flashlight. The enemies will rarely notice you and it's easy enough to get to the end by following the blue outlines above doors. It's a great game to replay and see little changes throughout. One little example I'll always remember is going into a hunter's lodge on two different playthroughs. On the first it was a pristine living area with animal trophies and nice furniture. On another it was full of gutted carcasses and bloody walls. Really fascinating game.
Anytime Fatal Frame is mentioned I get goosebumps. I even think the slowness works to it's advantage. That series really scares me, maybe even more than the early Silent Hill games. Speaking of... thank you again, (both of you) for clarifying that Tom Hulett and the creative teams were mainly doing what Konami told them to do in regards to the HD remakes. Again I still recommend people watch the two part Tragedy of Tom Hulett video to get the full story.
I smiled like a jackass when I heard the Sweet Home music creep in and then you dropped the "RE is a remake of Sweet Home." bomb and I couldn't help but laugh and clap. I love how much you nerd out with Sweet Home. Speaking of. After this I will be watching your Sweet Home playthrough again.
The Dreamcast had at the very least the definitive console version of new nightmare. Much like Spider-Man much like a number of games. It kills me how few people have probably played that game though. It amazes me just how many games have been stranded in the PS1, Dreamcast era. Far too many.
John Doe Dreamcast did... and there was a PS2 port, but I think it may not have been a NTSC version. But everything from the Wii game to the PS3 and X-box versions of the laters games are just trash... lol. And the PS1 era, yeah... lots of good games from the not since reached the same heights. Soul Reaver being one such game.
There are no remakes though, there was a canceled one of the first game and that was it. New Nightmare was a reboot and the 360/Ps3 one was a sequel to the original continuity.
Shea Agnew actually reboot implies same continuity and retooling. A remake implies new take on subject, hence New Nightmare. And if you consider the 7th gen games as takes on the oh continuity, then that’s some crap writing from the devs to make that work.
@@SiliconHaloMedia no, reboot typically means that they're starting over from the beginning again with new gameplay/graphics/etc. Or if Capcom were to like make a game that is a sequel to re4 and pretend 5 - 7 never happened. That would be a reboot. Think Sam Raimi Spider-Man vs The Amazing Spider-Man.
I love Shattered Memories and would rank it up there with the Team Silent games. Also it's the only good Silent Hill game made from the non Team Silent devs. I feel like most people skipped it because it was on the Wii and that system had the stereotype of being a kiddy console although you had a handful of great M-rated titles like No More Heroes that also used the Wii controls fantastically. SM is more of a retelling than a remake because the characters and even the story are different. Like you mentioned in the video "Harry loses his daughter and goes searching for her" is the only thing from the original. The hell freezing over at the time for sure felt fresh because every entry up to that point had the same rusty look and it just got old. SM I feel like they understood the franchise and it felt closer to SH2 with it being a character driven story. It had the psychological horror elements, it wasn't focused on combat, and it's depressing haha. It wasn't perfect like sometimes the puzzles were a little gimmicky (unlock this door) but other times they were clever (moving props around to shine a light on them to see a passcode from the shadow on the wall). Also you know when "the chasing" segments were and when you were safe. It would have been great to see these devs do another Silent Hill game, although Origins was pretty bad haha SM was a huge leap forward for them.
BeThomsen i did love downpour. It showed alot of love of the series however not polished to how it shouldve been. Yes it was a mediocre silent hill game but it had heart
I'm ASTONISHED that Darek didn't talk about Clock Tower: The First Fear. No talk of the Atari trash like Alone in the Dark or that weird Haunted House shovelware garbage they did? huh. Corpse Party was originally made in 1996 and remade for newer versions of Windows and then again for the PSP as Corpse Party: Blood Covered. Siren: Blood Curse is a remake of a bit of a cult classic SCE Japan Horror game. the recent Sonic Mania mod, Halloween Challenge: 2019 is a Sonic Mania remake of "An Ordinary Sonic Romhack", both of which are based on the Sonic.EXE creepypasta garbage. there's some argument to be made for certain games based on horror licenses. i think it's very clear that the Friday the 13th game that made waves a few years back as a asynchronous multiplayer game was well aware of the Friday the 13th NES game and could kinda be a more fleshed out version of that game. there's also Nightdive Studios, who are currently working on a remake of System Shock, although at the moment that's not exactly playable. one game that I'd argue lost a bit of it's horror bent getting remade is Metroid: Zero Mission. The original metroid, primitive as it is, did have some really foreboding and tense stuff for 1986. franchise is still ultimatley more of an action and adventure-ish romp. I also would consider The Last of Us to be a horror game, and the Last of Us does have a PS4 remaster, even if it is more of a minor visual upgrade.
ClexYoshi I disagree with the Metroid Zero Mission call out. The original Metroid had low-key-so-as-to-be-almost-nonexistent horror elements. Zero Mission at least had a few overt horror elements while still keeping it nearly nonexistent. Metroid just isn’t a horror game. I prefer it that way.
These two seem like some chill guys to hang with! I love how the majority of the time was spent talking about Resident Evil and Silent Hill, the only two franchises on here I care about! They even addressed how Shattered Memories is barely actually a Silent Hill game! Sure, there were some good ideas on that game, but the execution didn't work very well. Amnesia is far scarier. Honestly, I don't want an RE or SH game to not have combat. Shattered Memories is a perfect example, neigh, THE example of why making a player defenseless does NOT automatically make the game more terrifying!
Saying resident evil was a remake of sweet home because it was announced that way doesn't mean you could credit it that way and officially put sweet home in the resident evil lineage. You'll be surprised to find out the amount of games out there that we know of and got as a final product was actually originally intended to be a different game. Devil may cry also started off as a resident evil game but was changed to what we know it as today. That doesn't mean you could put devil may cry in the resident evil timeline or even consider it apart of that world.
Great choices. But you guys left out one amazing remake. A perfect remake on par with RE Remake. Super Castlevania 4. Quite possibly the best Castlevania game in terms of atmosphere and control.
If Capcom is revisiting old things, give me another Onimusha and I'll be happy. Give me Megaman Legends 3 and I will forever praise the glorious CapGods. They've said that they are aware of the passion fans have for each iteration of Megaman and they don't want fans of any Megaman series to be left out going forward. We better get Legends 3 after that statement.
I love that game, it just needed some moments in the non-nightmare/frozen realm where you felt threatened and some more variety in the nightmare realms. The use of the Wii's features was A+/S level, they tried new things like the psychological aspect where the game can change bits on you and the lack of combat (among other things, and the story hit you right in the feels- the ending has stayed with me to this day. I would have loved to see Climax to have gotten a second shot at the series on the WiiU (they would have made full use of the gamepad, that I know) or Switch, as they had great ingenuity and ideas that could only improve.
Resi remake is by far the greatest horror remake out there. Great video as always guys. You also reminded me that I need to buy and play the spatterhouse remake/master or whatever it is.
Shade on SH4? I never understand that. I played SH4 first and it got me into Silent Hill as a series. I still think the hauntings of the SH4 are great- there are some genuinely horrifying things about that game.
REmake is one of those instances where I feel like the remake makes the original version of the game obsolete. Games like the original RE2 and RE2 remake and especially Silent Hill and Shattered Memories are different enough where both are worth experiencing but I feel REmake just toally invalidates the original since it was more or less what Shinji Mikami and his team had in mind in the first place. I just imagine playing through RE1 without the improved aqua ring, crimson heads, and Lisa Trevor.
Man next to 1, Shattered Memories is my favourite Silent Hill. Running through ice may not be the best kind of combat, but then again combat is the weakest aspect of all the games in the franchise.
I guess that technically Slender: The Arrival is a remake of Slender: The Eight Pages? Not that either game is particularly good but I really wanna contribute to your engagement, Derek.
Silent Hill 4 deserves a remake/master though. The way it gave you a safe space with your apartment, only to then take it away was amazingly done. Also, big head. Everyone loves that bit.
By the way, (to those who didn't catch it) the Famicom/NES version of Lode Runner was considered a sequel of sorts to Bomberman, after he's escaped. That's why the enemies all look like Bomberman.
A great resident evil story I have is one day my sister had a half day of school I was still in middle school and didn’t. Her and her friends fired up my PlayStation and resident evil. The part where the zombie turns around all of them ran upstairs except one who went out and bought it the next day.
I got Resident Evil 2 and returned home and did my homework. I had about an hour to play the game before bed time. I went to bed and was woken up by howling Santa Ana winds. I wandered into the living room and my parents were gone, the lights dimmed. I walk into my Uncle's room and he wasn't home either. At that point I heard the door come crashing open. I walk upstairs and the door was wavering in the wind. Scared the shit out of me, I ran and closed the door and got under the covers... the perfect scary night for a kid who had just got Resident Evil 2.
Jokes on you Derek, I already knew that RE was a remake of Sweet Home from YOU on your stream last night! Muahahha Edit: Also PS, this video is cute, I love it
I agree that the Mr. X moment in the re2 remake was one of the highlights but I do think that him just being there was really scary anyway. The reveal is a one off scare and only shocked me once. Him just being present within earshot really got to me in a similar way to the alien in Alien Isolation just showing up from nowhere. On the flavour text front I understand why it was changed (The improved graphics and streamlined gameplay meant that there was not nearly as much need for statement that "the desk is locked" or "the corpse is missing its head" because it is right there. You can just see it without having to be told. The original I think did that due to having low poly count, limited visual indicators and lower resolution textures making an image less understandable at a glance) but some flavour text would have been nice.
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As someone who worked QA on Silent Hill HD, we wrote up loads of bugs that there was simply not enough time to fix.
Drives me nuts. There was enough time, all the time in the world actually. Konami decided not to allow more time to fix, which is not the same thing. To this day we don’t have a dignified version of SH 2-3-4 to play on flat screen hd tv. I don’t understand this, SH would be super successful, it would sell well, all the other franchises have done this. Except for the most betterer games from 20 years ago that are still inexplicably only playable on ps2. On a tv where it looks like garbage.
@@nickl9317 If you've got a pc, search up silent hill 2 enhanced edition
@@nickl9317 They are hardly alone. I’m not excusing it but the industry is rotten with “the ship date cannot change” policy.
@@leeartlee915 yeah… but at least fix it after?! It’s particularly bad with remasters. I heard lots of stuff about how this so called remaster was made and… damn. There’s no excuse. Tomm Hulett got rammed for this, but in the end it comes down to Konami being the absolute worst.
@@nickl9317 Konami is the saddest case in the video game industry. They went from being a industry leader to an afterthought. Products like this don’t help their case.
Seeing Matt & Derek interacting on camera and being adorable warms my stone cold heart
@Carey Wolhuter keep your hands off Matt-Chan!!!
@Carey Wolhuter Just now realized that? I cancelled my pornhub subscription when I found Matt Mcmuscles.
The shipping is strong...
"Matt do you know a lot about silent hill?"
*Pat cries in corner*
And I cry because they're not best friends who play anymore
@@Arvoyea If Pat wasn't such an asshole they might have been able to stay friends
@@Arvoyea and i cry because.....no shitstorm...this month was weird
@@bloodangelxx yea. All SBFP fans including me are still down about it I think.
I almost forgot October was a thing because there was no daily video to help me keep track
Siren: Blood Curse definitely deserves a mention.
that game is bad though
@@cthrugrl lol no
Alright title, but kinda loses some of the more intricate and best qualities of the first two games. It feels more like an stripped down version of the first game.
It is definitely simplified, with more linear levels and enemy patrol behaviour, as well as storytelling. The streamlined sight jacking mechanics may take away some of the atmosphere for some, I simply see them as a move away from pretentious fake difficulty towards a less obnoxious, if not ideal solution. Overall, I found Blood Curse solid enough; it's not like the originals were masterpieces either.
@@Blurgleflargle totally agree, i tried siren after watching nitro rads review and i gave up on level 3 or 4. its just not a fun game in my opinion
The scariest thing in this video was that Instagram filter on Matt.
Professor Dragonite bro that was terrifying my penis fell off when I saw tha t
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Owww sorry to hear that.
@@stepheng8061 Okay, a bit more than I was expecting. I hope the reattachment surgery goes well.
@@ProfDragonite He can't afford reatchment surgery
0:00 Derek & Matt: THE MEGAPOWERS EXPLODE!
7:16 A C C O U T R E M E N T S 🥐
You were the reason we went out to get the Splatterhouse remake as well. It’s a ton of fun even though it has a ton of issues. Having the original games included makes it one of the best packages out there. Also no remake will ever top RE 1’s just for how revolutionary it was
So true that remake was truly incredible both then and now.
Back then though it was mind-blowing. Ah yes, the last time Nintendo had a powerful console, those were the days.
Splatterhouse 2010 is truly the definition of "diamond in the rough". I would love to see someone take another crack at it. Also amazing soundtrack, introduced me to FFDP
Loved this. Thanks for making awesome content.
Both you two dudes are real cool guys. Happy Halloween!
Shattered Memories is one of my favorite games ever. I sort of just bought it on a whim, expecting a quirky wii-tastic take on Silent Hill, but its innovative approach to storytelling and level progression really caught me by surprise, and the twist ending I got really stuck with me for a while. It was perhaps a little *too* ahead of its time: some of it’s ideas (esp the ice sequences) are a bit clumsy in execution, but Climax Studios’ heart and ambition ultimately shine through. I have a great appreciation for Wii games that made the most of the consoles’s unique strengths, and Shattered Memories is one of the best examples. An essential game for any Wii collector.
I'll only Say this: since your review of horror games last year, I am waiting for you to talk about that The Ring game on Dreamcast. Never knew about its existance, and I am quite the intrigued chap now.
That's better suited for the avgn
In a shorter sense
Tank controls
Has a silent hill feel because of the darkness
Overall its averagr really
Once Mr. Microphone was mentioned as a guest, I was constantly looking to see if he'd wandered back into the shot.
The problem with remakes (like the ones Konami makes) is that they don't put money into them and that's why they end up being crappy, Capcom shows that when you actually put money into the project you can also make money out of it
Matt holding that Silent Hill game is sad feels 😢 I remember Pat and him playing it and they threw the axe 😭
Nice video guys! It was great having Matt and Derek interact. I really liked this format as something different from your usual format, much more casual and just some people hanging out and being nerds.
I knew the moment I saw this they were gonna mention Fatal Frame and I only thought this because of Nitro Rad.
I see you are in possession of excellent taste, friend.
@@wareforcoin5780 Not to mention this being Halloween, he capped off the series on his own channel the same day.
Nitro Rad is my favorite
Yeah, I really liked Antdude's videos on Fatal Frame too.
YESS NITRO RAD
Ah this is awesome guys! Was very pleased to see this collab in my feed.
Since we're including reimagining i'm going to include Siren: Blood Curse. Its a reimagining of the Forbidden Siren games and its a damn good and damn scary game. Also Alone in the Dark 360 which was a nooooooooooooo.
Alone in the Dark 360 was a sequel.
some years ago I almost bought the Wii version of AitD
but the guy on walmart could not find the key to open the case and I had to go
I believe it was a sign saving me
Dude: Alone in the dark...
...For the Game Boy Color!
THAT's the good stuff!
@@kain5056 I think I've seen that before. Wasn't it based on new nightmare?
@@samz8691 although you're right it definitely wasn't sold as that and just had the generic name of Alone in the Dark. Also I hate there's a 5 second line that's like Oh btw this is a sequel that's just out of nowhere.
One of my favorite horror remakes is actually Corpse Party. The original game was a small game made by only a few people using RPG Maker on the PC-98. The version we eventually got in the US in 2011 for the PSP is actually the third remake of that game. Corpse Party first got remade for mobile phones, then the PC and finally the PSP version was released but even that was followed by another upgraded port for the 3DS. So there are like 5 different versions of that game.
"He knows how I smell!"
-Matt "Kowalewski" McMuscles, 2019
My personal problem with the resident 2 remake is that my absolute favorite part of resident evil 2, the reason is one of my favorites, is the Side A and Side B system, and they take my favorite part away. Look i know that they exist in some way in the game, but is so far appart that its almost unrecognizable. Precisely what was so brilliant about mister x is that he only shows up when you are already familiar with the enviroments. So when you start to fill confident, thats when he showed up.
Resident evil 2 was built in a way that you kind of have to finish it 4 times to see everything, and those 4 times are different enough from each other that each of them are worth playing.
Thats why its hard for me to consider it the definitive version, unlike REmake 1 which only added more things to the experience, instead of substracting them.
I can get this argument. I found it super weird that there was A and B scenarios but one doesn't affect the other. I understand it was minimal in the original, but the scale grows. I liked the idea of Leon getting one key and Claire the other, but I find the idea of a second, albeit stronger handgun weird? Could've done slight nods to it in the A scenario in general that 'I should leave some for the other survivors/Leon/Claire' as to why they don't take everything. Maybe reset puzzles by having it that zombies broke it by chance for a fresh take. They already said what needed to be said about X
Also, with the first REmake, the reason things worked so well is that, from my understanding, a lot of this was already ready. Just that the technology wasn't prepped for that stuff yet. Why it meshes so well as it did
@@Sanodi21 yeah... In the original if you play leon A and claire B it felt like a continuation of a story, not like a remixed campaign. It made it more believable that both characters were going through their side of the game at the same time. The difficulty increased from one half to the other, so it added a little strategy for what to take and what to leave for the other character, even if it was minimal as you said, it made feel more involved.
I mean the game is still great, don't get me wrong, it just will make it harder in the future when i want to replay RE 2 and have to decide which version to play, instead of just picking the definitive one, like i do with RE 1. The only reason for me to go back and play the original RE 1 is nostalgia
Agreed. I played through with Leon and only played a small amount of Claire. I didnt want to immediately basically replay the game. I understand it is a little different but not different enough and didnt feel like a continuation of the first part more like just redoing the same thing again slightly differently.
I would also like to bring up the soundtrack. I absolutely adore the sound design of the RE2R, but when i got my hands on RE2 for Gamecube, the soundtrack of that game became a glaring miss for the Remake for me.
So great to see matt again!
Nice friendly vid
Thanks for respecting Bomberman Act Zero, it's still anyone's game
This was a great collaboration video. Matt and Derek have great back and forth. I would not mind seeing further cross overs in the future between the two channels.
2 of my favorite dudes on TH-cam. Great vid, love it when you guys hang out!
You guys have such chemistry, it's always a treat to watch these collabs :D
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Castlevania The Adventure Rebirth or Castlevania Chronicles.
"And Also The Third Guest, We Got Matt, Myself, And Mr.Mic."
*starts tapping the mic and everything starts glitching*
I laughed so hard lol! 😂😂😂
I think RE2Make is much better when you look at it as a reimagining. I love that the original game stands out and is not invalidated by RE2Make, but rather each of them have something unique to offer that isn't necessarily inferior or superior to the other.
By far, the single best thing in this video is the way you two genuinely get along. There's a great old-school Arin-and-Jon vibe here.
Oh geez, that comparison hurts.😔 not because it's inaccurate but because it just brings back feelings of oh I miss those two.😭
If anyone wants to try Shattered Memories, one minor tweak to make the chase scenes go from annoying to tolerable is to turn off your flashlight. The enemies will rarely notice you and it's easy enough to get to the end by following the blue outlines above doors.
It's a great game to replay and see little changes throughout. One little example I'll always remember is going into a hunter's lodge on two different playthroughs. On the first it was a pristine living area with animal trophies and nice furniture. On another it was full of gutted carcasses and bloody walls.
Really fascinating game.
Matt seems so much happier now. Like, genuinely happy
Anytime Fatal Frame is mentioned I get goosebumps. I even think the slowness works to it's advantage. That series really scares me, maybe even more than the early Silent Hill games.
Speaking of... thank you again, (both of you) for clarifying that Tom Hulett and the creative teams were mainly doing what Konami told them to do in regards to the HD remakes. Again I still recommend people watch the two part Tragedy of Tom Hulett video to get the full story.
I smiled like a jackass when I heard the Sweet Home music creep in and then you dropped the "RE is a remake of Sweet Home." bomb and I couldn't help but laugh and clap. I love how much you nerd out with Sweet Home. Speaking of. After this I will be watching your Sweet Home playthrough again.
Matt's face during the Bomberman segment was priceless. I wonder if it will be a What Happen or Flophouse episode
Never knew what Matt looked like thanks
2 of my favorite TH-camrs in one video, awesome
It's also definitely worth mentioning that Siren: Blood Curse is a re-something (re-imagining I guess?) of the first Siren game.
2 great channels coming together is so great
Surprised you guys didn’t cover the bajillion Alone in the Dark remakes... the good one being New Nightmare, and a slew of awful ones.
The Dreamcast had at the very least the definitive console version of new nightmare.
Much like Spider-Man much like a number of games. It kills me how few people have probably played that game though. It amazes me just how many games have been stranded in the PS1, Dreamcast era. Far too many.
John Doe Dreamcast did... and there was a PS2 port, but I think it may not have been a NTSC version.
But everything from the Wii game to the PS3 and X-box versions of the laters games are just trash... lol.
And the PS1 era, yeah... lots of good games from the not since reached the same heights. Soul Reaver being one such game.
There are no remakes though, there was a canceled one of the first game and that was it.
New Nightmare was a reboot and the 360/Ps3 one was a sequel to the original continuity.
Shea Agnew actually reboot implies same continuity and retooling. A remake implies new take on subject, hence New Nightmare. And if you consider the 7th gen games as takes on the oh continuity, then that’s some crap writing from the devs to make that work.
@@SiliconHaloMedia no, reboot typically means that they're starting over from the beginning again with new gameplay/graphics/etc. Or if Capcom were to like make a game that is a sequel to re4 and pretend 5 - 7 never happened. That would be a reboot. Think Sam Raimi Spider-Man vs The Amazing Spider-Man.
I love Shattered Memories and would rank it up there with the Team Silent games. Also it's the only good Silent Hill game made from the non Team Silent devs. I feel like most people skipped it because it was on the Wii and that system had the stereotype of being a kiddy console although you had a handful of great M-rated titles like No More Heroes that also used the Wii controls fantastically. SM is more of a retelling than a remake because the characters and even the story are different. Like you mentioned in the video "Harry loses his daughter and goes searching for her" is the only thing from the original. The hell freezing over at the time for sure felt fresh because every entry up to that point had the same rusty look and it just got old. SM I feel like they understood the franchise and it felt closer to SH2 with it being a character driven story. It had the psychological horror elements, it wasn't focused on combat, and it's depressing haha. It wasn't perfect like sometimes the puzzles were a little gimmicky (unlock this door) but other times they were clever (moving props around to shine a light on them to see a passcode from the shadow on the wall). Also you know when "the chasing" segments were and when you were safe. It would have been great to see these devs do another Silent Hill game, although Origins was pretty bad haha SM was a huge leap forward for them.
It's a crying shame that Fatal Frame 2 for the Wii never got localized. It's one of my favorite horror games.
Shoulda talked about Bionic Commando on 360. That reboot was absolutely HORRORble.
I was about to say that wasn't horror and then I looked again 👏👏👏 bravo! You got me.
I don't know, man. That new arm was quite wife material if you ask me.
I loved silent hill downpour but the pain from canceled silent hills makes me cry
I especially loved silent hill shattered memories
You loved downpur??
BeThomsen i did love downpour. It showed alot of love of the series however not polished to how it shouldve been. Yes it was a mediocre silent hill game but it had heart
@@pyroronnie2473 Heart doesnt make it better, plus i didnt see any heart;)
BeThomsen then your blind as fuck
I'm ASTONISHED that Darek didn't talk about Clock Tower: The First Fear.
No talk of the Atari trash like Alone in the Dark or that weird Haunted House shovelware garbage they did? huh.
Corpse Party was originally made in 1996 and remade for newer versions of Windows and then again for the PSP as Corpse Party: Blood Covered.
Siren: Blood Curse is a remake of a bit of a cult classic SCE Japan Horror game.
the recent Sonic Mania mod, Halloween Challenge: 2019 is a Sonic Mania remake of "An Ordinary Sonic Romhack", both of which are based on the Sonic.EXE creepypasta garbage.
there's some argument to be made for certain games based on horror licenses. i think it's very clear that the Friday the 13th game that made waves a few years back as a asynchronous multiplayer game was well aware of the Friday the 13th NES game and could kinda be a more fleshed out version of that game.
there's also Nightdive Studios, who are currently working on a remake of System Shock, although at the moment that's not exactly playable.
one game that I'd argue lost a bit of it's horror bent getting remade is Metroid: Zero Mission. The original metroid, primitive as it is, did have some really foreboding and tense stuff for 1986. franchise is still ultimatley more of an action and adventure-ish romp.
I also would consider The Last of Us to be a horror game, and the Last of Us does have a PS4 remaster, even if it is more of a minor visual upgrade.
ClexYoshi I disagree with the Metroid Zero Mission call out. The original Metroid had low-key-so-as-to-be-almost-nonexistent horror elements. Zero Mission at least had a few overt horror elements while still keeping it nearly nonexistent.
Metroid just isn’t a horror game. I prefer it that way.
"He Know's How I Smell!"
I laughed so hard lol! 😂😂😂
Awesome video, love these sit down, talk videos.
It's so nice to see Matt is making new friends ^_^
Yay Sweet Home!
I still remember when I first saw your video on ot many years ago, ordered a translated Repro Cart the same day!
Always great to have Matt around!
It's nice to see matt again, great job guys!
God I love that these channels are in each other’s orbit.
Stop Skeletons From Making Sweet Home References
Lol
If any channel deserves to have more subs it's yours. You guys are great! Love the content.
“I told the skeletons that fighting wasent nice for them and they stopped “ - TK Kirkland
Derek if it wasn't for your happy Nerd videos on Splatterhouse I would of never got into the series so thank you so much.
Yay! Awesome content always.
These two seem like some chill guys to hang with! I love how the majority of the time was spent talking about Resident Evil and Silent Hill, the only two franchises on here I care about! They even addressed how Shattered Memories is barely actually a Silent Hill game! Sure, there were some good ideas on that game, but the execution didn't work very well. Amnesia is far scarier. Honestly, I don't want an RE or SH game to not have combat. Shattered Memories is a perfect example, neigh, THE example of why making a player defenseless does NOT automatically make the game more terrifying!
Saying resident evil was a remake of sweet home because it was announced that way doesn't mean you could credit it that way and officially put sweet home in the resident evil lineage.
You'll be surprised to find out the amount of games out there that we know of and got as a final product was actually originally intended to be a different game.
Devil may cry also started off as a resident evil game but was changed to what we know it as today. That doesn't mean you could put devil may cry in the resident evil timeline or even consider it apart of that world.
That jab from his mom at Matt lmao!!!!
Prolly even asked "he smokes the marijuana???"
good vid, great series..
One of my favorite videos you guys have done, you have good chemistry with Matt :)
Great choices. But you guys left out one amazing remake. A perfect remake on par with RE Remake. Super Castlevania 4. Quite possibly the best Castlevania game in terms of atmosphere and control.
Not to mention the Soundtrack! That's debatable since there are so many great Castlevania STs ..Its my personal fave..
If Capcom is revisiting old things, give me another Onimusha and I'll be happy. Give me Megaman Legends 3 and I will forever praise the glorious CapGods.
They've said that they are aware of the passion fans have for each iteration of Megaman and they don't want fans of any Megaman series to be left out going forward. We better get Legends 3 after that statement.
Zero Attention Gaming MML3 would be awesome.
Whats the background music starting at 14:38
Shattered Memories was mighty impressive all things considered!
I love that game, it just needed some moments in the non-nightmare/frozen realm where you felt threatened and some more variety in the nightmare realms. The use of the Wii's features was A+/S level, they tried new things like the psychological aspect where the game can change bits on you and the lack of combat (among other things, and the story hit you right in the feels- the ending has stayed with me to this day. I would have loved to see Climax to have gotten a second shot at the series on the WiiU (they would have made full use of the gamepad, that I know) or Switch, as they had great ingenuity and ideas that could only improve.
The only bad moments were the run and hide sections but yeah it was a good game.
@@andrewamp1 guessing if you're in that situation, how could yo handle , would you run englessly to find a wau out of escape and hide.
Weird to see Matt in person since he always talks through an avatar on his channel
You can get a pretty good idea of what he looks like in the older wha happun videos.
Everytime I hear that Resident Evil safe room theme I reinstall the damn game
Good combo video, you should do these more often.
Resi remake is by far the greatest horror remake out there. Great video as always guys. You also reminded me that I need to buy and play the spatterhouse remake/master or whatever it is.
Shade on SH4? I never understand that. I played SH4 first and it got me into Silent Hill as a series. I still think the hauntings of the SH4 are great- there are some genuinely horrifying things about that game.
REmake is one of those instances where I feel like the remake makes the original version of the game obsolete. Games like the original RE2 and RE2 remake and especially Silent Hill and Shattered Memories are different enough where both are worth experiencing but I feel REmake just toally invalidates the original since it was more or less what Shinji Mikami and his team had in mind in the first place. I just imagine playing through RE1 without the improved aqua ring, crimson heads, and Lisa Trevor.
Man next to 1, Shattered Memories is my favourite Silent Hill. Running through ice may not be the best kind of combat, but then again combat is the weakest aspect of all the games in the franchise.
To 1? Not 2 or 3??
@@Exel3nce you mention combat never not that great in silent hill games
@@iancruz6617 ?
@@Exel3nce Talking about combat not that much avail instead of one swing animation.
@@iancruz6617 talking about favirites, Not Combat
Calling it right now, Breath of FiRE.
Aside from that, a MREgaman LREgREnds would be sweet, but that's a different story altogether...
More Love for the Project Zero/Fatal Frame Series
You were the reason why I played Splatterhouse for the PS3!!! I loved that game!!!!
Already a fan of Stop Skeletons but having Matt here is icing on the horror cake.
You looked so happy to be with Matt McMuscles!
I guess that technically Slender: The Arrival is a remake of Slender: The Eight Pages? Not that either game is particularly good but I really wanna contribute to your engagement, Derek.
"He knows how I smell."
Another gem from Matthew for the books.
This is a very interesting subject I really enjoyed it.
Don't forget that the digital PSN release of Silent Hill 1 has bugged audio to this day. It works fine with a physical copy.
I was so impressed with Silent Hill Shatered Memories on the Wii, but yes, RE:make is the best.
Shattered memories has some neat ideas, but resident evil remake is absolutely perfect
Silent Hill 4 deserves a remake/master though. The way it gave you a safe space with your apartment, only to then take it away was amazingly done.
Also, big head. Everyone loves that bit.
I first experienced Silent Hill 2 on Xbox. It was called Restless Dreams and it had some extra story added. I loved it so much, I wish I kept it.
By the way, (to those who didn't catch it) the Famicom/NES version of Lode Runner was considered a sequel of sorts to Bomberman, after he's escaped. That's why the enemies all look like Bomberman.
A great resident evil story I have is one day my sister had a half day of school I was still in middle school and didn’t. Her and her friends fired up my PlayStation and resident evil. The part where the zombie turns around all of them ran upstairs except one who went out and bought it the next day.
I got Resident Evil 2 and returned home and did my homework. I had about an hour to play the game before bed time. I went to bed and was woken up by howling Santa Ana winds. I wandered into the living room and my parents were gone, the lights dimmed. I walk into my Uncle's room and he wasn't home either. At that point I heard the door come crashing open. I walk upstairs and the door was wavering in the wind. Scared the shit out of me, I ran and closed the door and got under the covers... the perfect scary night for a kid who had just got Resident Evil 2.
Two of my favorite creators talking about one of my favorite things
Awesome video as always.
Great video!
My man! Knew you would come through today. Happy Halloween.
Wasn't there a Resident Evil game on the DS and that game was a remake of the original Resident Evil?
That was more like an enhanced port, with an optional campaign mode that added touch screen minigames. It was actually quite neat.
You can kind of consider Rebirth Mode as a soft remake, just like the Arrange Modes in the others.
It was more a port with bonuses. I have it and it is neat
Shattered Memories isn’t a remake. Most of these are reboots, not remakes. A couple are just remasters!
REmake was released on everything currently. Not just PS4.
For Halloween, I'd love to see the rebirth of the Zaibatsu... 🙁
I'd love for a port of the Splatterhouse remake.
this collab makes me so happy!!!
Happy Halloween!
*Its snowing in Wisconsin.*
Do you one better: it's below freezing in Texas.
Fuck, I love you Matt, you are so great.
Jokes on you Derek, I already knew that RE was a remake of Sweet Home from YOU on your stream last night! Muahahha
Edit: Also PS, this video is cute, I love it
I learned it was remake from the happy nerd videos
I agree that the Mr. X moment in the re2 remake was one of the highlights but I do think that him just being there was really scary anyway. The reveal is a one off scare and only shocked me once. Him just being present within earshot really got to me in a similar way to the alien in Alien Isolation just showing up from nowhere. On the flavour text front I understand why it was changed (The improved graphics and streamlined gameplay meant that there was not nearly as much need for statement that "the desk is locked" or "the corpse is missing its head" because it is right there. You can just see it without having to be told. The original I think did that due to having low poly count, limited visual indicators and lower resolution textures making an image less understandable at a glance) but some flavour text would have been nice.