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The Lollar Imperial set comes from a Collings semi hollow : we have a low wind in the neck position and, from what I know, the bridge pickup is a kind of hybrid/in between low wind/regular.
Classic 57 are the stock pickups of this Gibson 1998 ES-335.
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I think the classic 57 win this challenge.
Finally! Somebody on TH-cam comparison demo who can actually play, play in tune, and pull a tone out of their instrument. The Lollars definitely sounded cleaner and more articulate without being thin or brittle. I would like to here these compared to the Duncan Antiquities. Great job!
Thanks Bob!
Very true. Very few usable “reviews” or demos due the lack there of. Good info here.
This guitar and and classic 57’s are the best tone on the planet imo. I need a 335 .
The 57's had more of the "honky" nasal quality, and the Lollars had more detail and a bit brighter. Great comparison, and I agree with most everyone here that is sure is a breath of fresh air hearing a player that actually knows how to let the tone of the pickup come through. This is a perfect example of how pickup choice is really personal preference in most cases. Great job!
Both are voiced for different purpose really. Can’t go wrong either way. 57 for it’s warmth and lollar for cleaner almost single coil-esque feel. Excellent demo!
57’s on the Neck, for me, sounded much warmer and would be my preference. I would give the the Lollars on the Bridge the edge in that position. I have an ES 339 with 57’s and was considering Lollars - now will just keep my 57’s. Great video, thank you!!
Every comparison video guys should take a lesson from this man. Fantastic review!
Thanks 😉
Love it. I have a classic 57 in my Les Paul and you convinced me I would prefer something else.
I like the Gibson neck but definitely the lollar bridge
Both nice. I prefer the 57 Classic in the bridge for sure, but in the neck I slightly prefer the Lollar.
I agree and I'm a big lollar fan.
Well this settles it. I need two 335s. I like both sounds for different reasons
Great option, a bit more costly though!
57 for jazz
The Tom Holmes designed Gibson 57's get the nod...by a hair.
Thank you for posting. I have 335 1999, the sound on 57Classic is so familiar to me, I love it. Lollar is also great, especially dirty sound of bridge pickup is more emotional than 57.
I like both, it's a matter of preference and playing. I love the clarity and articulation of the lollars for complex chords and soloing (i can push the low mids or bass on my amp or preamp). You cannot get that clarity on the 57, even if these sounds more "classic". And love the fact that my guitar sounds not like everyone else, so Lollars for me.
I dig the Lollars. It's what I have in my ES-335. I agree that they're clearer and more defined across the whole range. The Classics are more gainy, which is a plus if played distorted, but my ES-335 is for blues. I play it through my King of Tone if I want to add dirt and gain. Excellent video! Your playing is awesome!
Thanks
Nice pedal
57’s when playing through an edge breakup tube amp, and Lollars for more sophisticated music.
57 neck pickup was juicy and warm for cleaner stuff. But as soon as gain was applied to the bridge pickup, it was obvious how muddy the 57s can be. Lollar are known for the clear, 3d quality to distorted chords. If I was playing jazz or some blues straight into the amp, the 57s would do fine. If I was playing rock, distorted tone, or using layered effects, I’d want the Lollars. Lollars get overall win. I can eq the guitar and drive the front end a tad more to make up for their brightness and lack of gain in certain settings. But you can’t clean up the muddiness of the 57s much no matter what you do.
Lollar sounds better to me : more clarity and definition. A bit brighter too.
Yes Lollar are brighter, with this "glassy" thing in the top end. Just set the tone knobs around 7/8 and it is gone
Ill take that Glassy stuff all day
Fantastic playing! I love that you played a 335 in style that the guitar is so well suited for. That's how I approach my 335 as well. So this was very helpful. I agree with most of those who say the Lollar are brighter, and have an emphasis in upper midrange where the 57 Classics are warmer with more low kids. That makes the 57 classics sound almost too warm in contrast. But if you had not compared, I would have said; Those 57 classics sound great! Ha. So no dog in the race here. I tend to prefer the more refined sound of the Lollar but they do sound a bit too midrange scooped. I think I might try Throbak's. But I wouldn't be unhappy with the Lollars either. Thank you for a GREAT video comparison. Very well done.
Thanks Gary. No bad gear in this category, just different flavors! Take care.
Shows how superior the 57 classics are !!!
Great, they both sound fantastic. I like the lollar a bit better but it's certainly a matter of preference.
You're right, just a matter of preference!
lollar neck classic bridge best of both smooth clear and crunchy goodness
This video has me excited… I’m having a set of imperials installed in my 68 Coronado as we speak… can’t wait 👍 the imperials seems to keep everything I need tone wise and get rid all the unnecessary frequencies
Interesting! Are the original pickups some sort of P90?
Great demo. FYI: I believe the very last bridge dirty demo you played are the Lollars and you have the Classic 57 listed in the footer.
I agree with your comment about the Lollars being great but maybe not for this guitar. I like them more in a solid body. I have them in an Eastman Les Paul and they sound amazing.
Right, the very last example are the Lollar!
57🎉
Really fantastic playing.
Thanks
Great video
To my ear and my musical sensibilities the 57s are a clear winner. Everyone's taste leads them down a different road, but in 335s, SGs and Les Pauls I'm all aboard with the 57s.
Thanks for a truly great compare/contrast demo, Steph!!
57s all the way!!
I find this demo a subjective topic,
First I bought a set of Gibson 57’s already and they are a solid set. My ears found the Lollars to be very nice but a touch too bright across the spectrum for me. That’s not to say that I would not buy them because I would for the right instrument. I still like the warmth the Gibsons offer across the spectrum and that was my deciding factor. Both sets very nice pickups for sure.
I totally agree with your review. As you said it's a subjective topic and nothing can replace a real test with his own guitar, pedals, amps...
Woah I wasn't expecting such a difference. The lollar had a way cleaner tone to it, in the neck especially.
For me, definitely 57. Loller sounds clearer but too much bass and treble, no mids.. should fit Rock music though like me playing blues, Funk stuff, 57 should be more natural sounding pup.
The warmth of the 57’s and the clarity of the Lollars leaves me feeling like a dog with 2 bones in the backyard . Which one????
Solution: 57 in the bridge, Lollar in the neck.
Lollars have the mid scooped a bit and more highs. Both sound good.
GIBSON, period.
lolllars lack in the mids, 57 classics for me 🤘🏼
+1
I actually hear the Lollars as having a different midrange presence than the 57's. The 57's sound lower midrange dominant, while the Lollar's seem have an upper midrange presence. I guess the mids you miss in the Lollars are the lower mids? Funny how the Lollar midrange jumps out at me and makes the 57's sound scooped in contrast, while you find them lacking. Interesting difference in perception, which is why so many different kinds of pickups are produced. The Fralin Pure PAF bridge that I have has an upper mid presence similar to the Lollar Imperials.
I hate auto correct. It makes Lollars "Kill are" and Fralin "Deal on" etc.
I have Lollars in my Ibanez 73t-tcr.Came with the guitar when brought used!......Creamy lovelyness!
Thanks
excellent
For me LOLLAR, both sound good, but Lollar are more opened and less compresed...
Damn. I need Lollars.
Estupenda demo. Gran sonido y mejor toque de la guitarra.
Gracias Raul!
@@stephlucarelli gracias a ti.
Para mi las 57 ya suenan muy bien, son de mis pastillas favoritas. Las Lollar se notan más definidas y claras, aunque no me atrevo a decir que suenen mejor.
Un saludo.
Thanks I could not hear much difference between the two 😉
The bridge tone sounds phenomenal. What string gauge are you using?
I use 10/46
@@stephlucarelli Thanks man!
the Lollar's defintely have cleaner more articulate tone ( I have 57's on my 339 and CS 356 and love them by the way)
Gibson 57 bridege, looler neck would sound the best in my opinion 😅
I would love to hear this comparison with Arcane triple clones. As to these, on clean, definitely the Lollars have the edge, dirty the 57s are streets in front. In a way the lollars sound almost tinny to my old ears.
Do you find the lollars to be less harsh than the Gibson’s? I have two non gibson guitars and I realized they are not as harsh as all my Gibson’s . The funny part is they are both brighter and clearer sounding than all my Gibson’s too.
But what confused me was being brighter and also WAY less harsh. Playing loudly with distortion is just significantly more pleasant and so I’m wondering if the lollars do this too.
I also wonder why my Gibson’s sound so brash
Usually, I like the Lollars better clean and the 57s better with a mild natural overdrive as featured in this video but I think the Lollars won all around in this demo.
Clean the Lollar. OD the 57s. Overall I prefer the 57s.
Depends on your perspective. Both sound very good, but to hear what they sound like with a backing track could help. Just different flavors.
Interesting.. The Lollar neck had more top end, maybe slightly more articulate. The bridge was great, especially overdriven... That said, I didn't like the clean middle position of the Lollars. Great demo!
I agree, something is missing in the middle position with the Lollars... Anyway, the Lollars are gone since thus demo!
@@stephlucarelli If they would offer a Peter Green magnet switched version, I'd be 100% all in!! Thanks again for the killer & proper demo.
@@stephlucarelli what did you replace them with?
The upper midrange presence in the Lollar neck just jumped out and smacked me. It sounded so different from the 57 classic neck. I'm not sure I prefered it to the 57...
This may sound crazy but in my defense I'm new to pickups, But what if you placed a Classic 57 in the bridge and a Lollar in the neck How would that sound?
Honestly, it will sound as you expect. It is the middle position that would change.
i just bought 57 classic/57 classic plus they sound brighter then in this video,wierd,but i like them
Fantastic demo.
Gibson, all the way! I live right next to Jason, but as ears get older, what they hear is different. I think old guys like his pickups because they have his age of ears. Personally, his pickups sounded better 20 years ago when his ears were better.
Lol! I kinda agree. I still like my lollar special T, but that's another story...!
Hi! O ciao se sei italiano! Great sound!!! How do you have setted your singleman? I've the same amp
Ciao Riccardo. 50w mode and fat switch engaged. Bass around 10 and middle / treble at noon. 😉
Really great comparison video. Both pickup sets sound great. It just comes down to personal preference. In a band mix I wonder if you could hear any difference at all.
Great pickups! But that neck is in serious need of adjustment!!
57’s
Both sound good. The 57s sound like Gibson. The Lollars do not. They are an approximation and they have their own thing going.
Alnico II is a weak tone for the humbucker
Neck: classic 57
Bridge : lollar
What pickup height did you set for the 57’s ? I feel mines are too high and goes crunch too fast
Can't remember, it's quite old now!
Lollars: crispy
Cleaner sounds are always better in the mix and with effects. Therefore it's the lolar
Dirty 57
So what is your personal preference?
Well, both pickups are great in my opinion, with pros and cons.
Lollar are high end pickups for sure and I like the extra clarity, especially on the neck but I must say that I am not 100% convinced.
My overall feeling is to have lost the original character of the guitar in some ways. Maybe not the right pups for this guitar and not what I'm looking for.
@@stephlucarelli that’s same way I feel about the Lollars. I have this same set in my 335 copy, and I sometimes miss the fatness of the classic 57s, even though the reason I switched to Lollars was to get more clarity.. Had the Lollars for a few years now and might just try some new pickups that are a little fatter but with clarity... but first gonna try another amp...🤷🏽♂️
Good luck in your search!
@@Bobby_Digital37 just curious: have you tried out new pick ups. I’m on the same journey…
Are these low wind or normal? thanks!
The set comes from a Collings guitar and if I remember well it's in between low and normal.
@@stephlucarelli Awesome - thank you! I'm trying to add some sparkle to a dark 355 and these may do the trick!
@@insome776 Should to the job, they are also very clear and articulate 😉
@@stephlucarelli thats what I needs! Thanks for the input, and great vid!
Lollar’s
Lollar is unpotted
With the lollar it doesn't sound like Gibson anymore
The classic 57 is juicier and more gibsoni
The 57 is way better
The Lollars definitely accent how shitty that flimsy pick sounds.