Mr. Pete, I am grateful for all your work on TH-cam, please keep sharing. We need guys like you back teaching in schools and Further Education Colleges. I am aware that Artificial Intelligence will change what practical work we humans perform however we need to remember the 'one-off' bespoke parts which no big CNC company would be interested in machining at a pragmatic unit cost. Well perhaps NYC CNC!!!! My lathe is 'off-line at the moment, ergo I am a sad man. Many thanks for sharing you wealth of knowledge. Kindest regards. Joe.
Don't know why you want to make your videos shorter, Lyle. You are blessed with the gift of teaching, those who feel your excellent presentations are too long can always fast forward, but don't let those folks that want the details loos out because of a few grumps. You can never please everyone but rather too much information than too little! Kind regards from downunder.
I agree with downunderwest. For one, this abbreviated version does not feature the invaluable shop advice of the hazards associated with those pins coming undone. In the long video you specifically state that you have seen them become undone and flail around when they are close to the edge, and describe potential injures that stem from this. In this video you just say its a bit close to the edge, this can mean anything, including that its just a purely cosmetic defect, while in effect it can produce a safety hazard, or create an annoying noise that could later result in machine downtime for maintenance. Machining is an advanced activity.. there is no time for add lol
I'm giving all three videos a thumbs up - for the following reasons. As an introduction to a subject, I find the slower-paced, sometimes anecdotal (or occasionally just plain de-railed) format to be interesting and more likely to make the information "stick". However, when "looking back" to confirm a detail, or as a quick refresher, the shorter format has distinct advantages. I guess I'm greedy - I prefer to have both!
MrPete! Talk all you want, take your time, throw in a few good stories! These aren't things that we need the CliffsNotes version for, these are things that are more fun with your personal perspective and insight from years of experience. I'd pay several hundred bucks to come spend the day just making stuff and soaking up all the knowledge I could, so ignore anyone who says your videos are too long and continue to let us hang out in your workshop with you! Thanks for the contribution you've made to my life. Seriously! My time in the hanger (my workshop) is much more enjoyable due to the things I've learned from your videos! As long as you're making videos, I guarantee I'll watch every one!
As many have already posted, I prefer your longer versions. Thank you for all of your videos, comments, and educational opportunities. I have watched 99% of them.
No need for the ADD version your first video was very informative. I would like to see you demonstrate the economy version of the clipper lacer, the type used in a vice. I have one of these tools and would like some instruction on how to use it. Thanks for sharing your skills. How about some more road trip videos?
I prefer the long versions Mr Pete. I am of the opinion that your side tracked talking or subject tangents are what makes you you! I suppose that every video you make it is possible to get a shortened version out of it by just editing, so you could probably have both if you wanted. But I prefer the long version. You remind me of my physics teacher in high school. His students always had high marks and we were always eager in his class to learn, but he told the most fantastic stories that weren't always class room related. I believe his story telling made us like him even more, therefore when it came to class room work we all did well!
My dad had one of those tools so he could maintain his flat belts on some of his machinery. He had an old Camelback drillpress (I don't remember the brand) that I would dearly love to have back. That thing would drill a 2 1/2" diameter hole straight through 4" of steel with hardly a grunt. Anyway, the belts would stretch and have to be shortened periodically. And as far as ADD, I don't hav SQUIRREL!!! (A little joke here) I probably do have a touch of ADD. Thanks, John
I like it but certainly not at the expense of the longer version, if I had never spliced a belt before this video wouldn't have taught me how to do it unlike the longer version.
I like -- and can see the advantage of -- BOTH versions! If I were just looking for the specific instruction on how to accomplish a task, I would very much appreciate the ADD version... On the other hand, if I had the time and inclination to learn a lot more about the topic (history, the "why" instead of just the "how," etc.), I would prefer the longer version! Either way, I love your videos! Thanks for making them for us!!!
I remember watching my uncles splicing the large wide flat belt on their old saw mill with those but they used just a hammer to set them on a large stump, they never had any special tools for anything.
Once the belt is put into use and is running, the tension will distort the straight pin into a series of continuos S`s, like looking along the end of corrugated tin roofs. That is providing it is the catgut, rawhide or soft aluminum wire. That was why when Lyle showed you the steel pin it had notches in it to stop it sliding out under use. Hope this helps.
Ah... The light turns on! Thanks! (Since there are only about 6 watts, I doubt you needed sunglasses! I truly was puzzled, yet the answer was SO simple~!
Mr. Pete, if somebody has ADD and is looking at how to do this. They will most likely wind up with a piece of their hand in the belt. You can't teach How without teaching Why. If you want to learn something, learn from the Best!! That's why I am here. I enjoy your videos, long or short...
OK, Mr. Pete. I like your long videos better. I like your short videos better. That's my position and I'm stickin' to it. You're a real favorite here. With utmost respect, I say that lately it seems like you've become concerned with trying to overthink TH-cam, perhaps worrying about views, subscriptions, popularity? When anyone abandons his core strength and starts fishing for answers and trying gimmicks, it never works. Your video success was built at the lathe and the mill, TEACHING. Teaching is your gift and is where your personality shines. It's probably natural for a channel's views to decline in time, but straying too far from your strength cannot help. Neither will chasing the opinions of complainers. Stand strong and do what you do so well.
The one's that complain about over detail and length of a video are probably the one's that complained about their own teacher's in high school being "windy." Actually, the side-tracks or "rabbit trails" are a good thing. The mind will relax at certain intervals. If you put the side story or a bit of humor (a pun or dry quip) at the correct times, that will trigger the relaxation, and when you come back to the subject at hand, the mind is more ready to take that in. That's why a good preacher will often tell a quick joke just before he splits the pulpit in two to drive his last point home...
I thoroughly enjoy your videos and this one is no different. I am giving this a thumbs down not because I dislike this variation of video, it is because you do not go into the detail I am accustomed to. The "tangents" your dissertations go off on are the reason I enjoy your videos. You give insights and information that are not readily available elsewhere. In essence, you are removing the spice from the meal with the condensed version. I am a "survivalist/prepper" so to me, information is quite important and with the condensed version, much information is left out. Information that may be of benefit not only to me, but to others as well. It isn't simply just how to perform a task, but the reasoning behind it. The stories and sometimes the anecdotes you tell also provide not just information but insight into other areas besides machining and that is another of the many reasons your videos are not just informative, but enjoyable. I particularly enjoy the teacher/student approach that you take with your videos and in taking the condensed "ADD" method, your videos move away from the teacher/student approach which has made your videos so successful. If people cannot appreciate the knowledge that you have to offer, then it is their loss and you should not let their voices of dissent persuade you from changing a form and method which has served you so well. Many people who enjoy your videos do not voice their support but that particular silence doesn't mean a lack of support. The voices of dissent are remarkably small when compared to the sheer number of subscribers and the number of viewers you have. I have a saying and that is "The voice of reason is often drowned out by the shouts of fools." Your videos are not only informative but inspiring as well and I hope that you continue to provide your knowledge and insight for many years to come. Do not be discouraged, you have far more devoted and ardent supporters that you realize.
Everybody had a favorite teacher at school who they knew if they primed them with the right question, would proceed to talk for an hour about that one time they were stationed in the far east and they built a boat out of plywood pilfered from the quartermasters stores so they could go fishing, until they got drunk with their mates and sank it. Don't shorten anything.
Definitely prefer the long version(s). You never know when one of your asides is going to provide exactly the information that will turn out to be useful or just plain interesting. EDIT: I took your advice and gave it a Thumbs Down.
I had no interest in this subject and would not have invested 13 minutes into watching the longer video. This shorter video worked as a trailer for me.
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Mr. Pete, I am grateful for all your work on TH-cam, please keep sharing. We need guys like you back teaching in schools and Further Education Colleges. I am aware that Artificial Intelligence will change what practical work we humans perform however we need to remember the 'one-off' bespoke parts which no big CNC company would be interested in machining at a pragmatic unit cost. Well perhaps NYC CNC!!!! My lathe is 'off-line at the moment, ergo I am a sad man. Many thanks for sharing you wealth of knowledge. Kindest regards. Joe.
The shorter ADD version of the video is fine but I would not want to give up the better, longer versions of anything you share with us.
I agree.
As already mentioned by another person, ''your side tracks are better than some people's main roads''.
Pity the fools who need the shortened version.
Everything you share with us is enjoyable Tubalcain.
Thank you
Well put Mr T. ;-)
Don't know why you want to make your videos shorter, Lyle. You are blessed with the gift of teaching, those who feel your excellent presentations are too long can always fast forward, but don't let those folks that want the details loos out because of a few grumps. You can never please everyone but rather too much information than too little! Kind regards from downunder.
You might be right--I'm experimenting
I agree with downunderwest. For one, this abbreviated version does not feature the invaluable shop advice of the hazards associated with those pins coming undone.
In the long video you specifically state that you have seen them become undone and flail around when they are close to the edge, and describe potential injures that stem from this.
In this video you just say its a bit close to the edge, this can mean anything, including that its just a purely cosmetic defect, while in effect it can produce a safety hazard, or create an annoying noise that could later result in machine downtime for maintenance.
Machining is an advanced activity.. there is no time for add lol
I like the longer one. You are enjoyable to listen to whether you are on point or digressing. Thank you.
Lyle, I quite prefer the long version !!! Thanks, Cliff
I'm giving all three videos a thumbs up - for the following reasons. As an introduction to a subject, I find the slower-paced, sometimes anecdotal (or occasionally just plain de-railed) format to be interesting and more likely to make the information "stick". However, when "looking back" to confirm a detail, or as a quick refresher, the shorter format has distinct advantages. I guess I'm greedy - I prefer to have both!
Thanks Mr. Pete, your awesome!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I enjoy both the long and short versions. Thanks again
I like ALL of your work, I always watch them multiple times just because I am ADD!
MrPete! Talk all you want, take your time, throw in a few good stories! These aren't things that we need the CliffsNotes version for, these are things that are more fun with your personal perspective and insight from years of experience.
I'd pay several hundred bucks to come spend the day just making stuff and soaking up all the knowledge I could, so ignore anyone who says your videos are too long and continue to let us hang out in your workshop with you!
Thanks for the contribution you've made to my life. Seriously! My time in the hanger (my workshop) is much more enjoyable due to the things I've learned from your videos! As long as you're making videos, I guarantee I'll watch every one!
Like the rest, I thoroughly enjoy the long versions of all the videos you post. Keep at it, Mr. Pete!
As many have already posted, I prefer your longer versions. Thank you for all of your videos, comments, and educational opportunities. I have watched 99% of them.
No need for the ADD version your first video was very informative. I would like to see you demonstrate the economy version of the clipper lacer, the type used in a vice. I have one of these tools and would like some instruction on how to use it. Thanks for sharing your skills. How about some more road trip videos?
Personally, I prefer the longer video's.. Thank you for taking the time..
I prefer the long versions Mr Pete. I am of the opinion that your side tracked talking or subject tangents are what makes you you! I suppose that every video you make it is possible to get a shortened version out of it by just editing, so you could probably have both if you wanted. But I prefer the long version. You remind me of my physics teacher in high school. His students always had high marks and we were always eager in his class to learn, but he told the most fantastic stories that weren't always class room related. I believe his story telling made us like him even more, therefore when it came to class room work we all did well!
My dad had one of those tools so he could maintain his flat belts on some of his machinery. He had an old Camelback drillpress (I don't remember the brand) that I would dearly love to have back. That thing would drill a 2 1/2" diameter hole straight through 4" of steel with hardly a grunt. Anyway, the belts would stretch and have to be shortened periodically.
And as far as ADD, I don't hav
SQUIRREL!!!
(A little joke here)
I probably do have a touch of ADD.
Thanks,
John
Very well explained thank you, I have been around for a while and never knew how to lace the belts of that type. Thanks and thumbs up.
Anything you do, has my attention ! sam
theres another version of that a double block set up you put in vise and crimp we use these for screw machines..thanks for video again
I like it but certainly not at the expense of the longer version, if I had never spliced a belt before this video wouldn't have taught me how to do it unlike the longer version.
I used to work in a belt shop. this brought back nightmares.
wouldnt this way be too noisy slapping up against the pulleys. does it cause extra wear to the pulleys
Nice and concise but like the longer version better, Mr. Pete. Better Flavor IMHO. Thanks as always for your time and fine videos. ~PJ
I like -- and can see the advantage of -- BOTH versions! If I were just looking for the specific instruction on how to accomplish a task, I would very much appreciate the ADD version... On the other hand, if I had the time and inclination to learn a lot more about the topic (history, the "why" instead of just the "how," etc.), I would prefer the longer version! Either way, I love your videos! Thanks for making them for us!!!
have you collected any more billy the bass yet??..
I remember watching my uncles splicing the large wide flat belt on their old saw mill with those but they used just a hammer to set them on a large stump, they never had any special tools for anything.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
you make things interesting with youre storys
Both versions are good.
This one as instruction, the other to learn more and not directly related.
I can't prefer one to the other.
The only part I do not understand on either vid, is at the end:
You put a pin in to join the two belt ends. But what holds the pin in?
Once the belt is put into use and is running, the tension will distort the straight pin into a series of continuos S`s, like looking along the end of corrugated tin roofs. That is providing it is the catgut, rawhide or soft aluminum wire. That was why when Lyle showed you the steel pin it had notches in it to stop it sliding out under use. Hope this helps.
Ah... The light turns on! Thanks! (Since there are only about 6 watts, I doubt you needed sunglasses! I truly was puzzled, yet the answer was SO simple~!
But Mr. Pete, I like both ways... :)
Mr. Pete, if somebody has ADD and is looking at how to do this. They will most likely wind up with a piece of their hand in the belt. You can't teach How without teaching Why.
If you want to learn something, learn from the Best!! That's why I am here. I enjoy your videos, long or short...
OK, Mr. Pete. I like your long videos better. I like your short videos better. That's my position and I'm stickin' to it.
You're a real favorite here. With utmost respect, I say that lately it seems like you've become concerned with trying to overthink TH-cam, perhaps worrying about views, subscriptions, popularity? When anyone abandons his core strength and starts fishing for answers and trying gimmicks, it never works. Your video success was built at the lathe and the mill, TEACHING. Teaching is your gift and is where your personality shines. It's probably natural for a channel's views to decline in time, but straying too far from your strength cannot help. Neither will chasing the opinions of complainers. Stand strong and do what you do so well.
Does this work on leather belts also?
Yes
The one's that complain about over detail and length of a video are probably the one's that complained about their own teacher's in high school being "windy."
Actually, the side-tracks or "rabbit trails" are a good thing. The mind will relax at certain intervals. If you put the side story or a bit of humor (a pun or dry quip) at the correct times, that will trigger the relaxation, and when you come back to the subject at hand, the mind is more ready to take that in. That's why a good preacher will often tell a quick joke just before he splits the pulpit in two to drive his last point home...
I thoroughly enjoy your videos and this one is no different. I am giving this a thumbs down not because I dislike this variation of video, it is because you do not go into the detail I am accustomed to.
The "tangents" your dissertations go off on are the reason I enjoy your videos. You give insights and information that are not readily available elsewhere. In essence, you are removing the spice from the meal with the condensed version.
I am a "survivalist/prepper" so to me, information is quite important and with the condensed version, much information is left out. Information that may be of benefit not only to me, but to others as well. It isn't simply just how to perform a task, but the reasoning behind it.
The stories and sometimes the anecdotes you tell also provide not just information but insight into other areas besides machining and that is another of the many reasons your videos are not just informative, but enjoyable.
I particularly enjoy the teacher/student approach that you take with your videos and in taking the condensed "ADD" method, your videos move away from the teacher/student approach which has made your videos so successful.
If people cannot appreciate the knowledge that you have to offer, then it is their loss and you should not let their voices of dissent persuade you from changing a form and method which has served you so well.
Many people who enjoy your videos do not voice their support but that particular silence doesn't mean a lack of support. The voices of dissent are remarkably small when compared to the sheer number of subscribers and the number of viewers you have.
I have a saying and that is "The voice of reason is often drowned out by the shouts of fools."
Your videos are not only informative but inspiring as well and I hope that you continue to provide your knowledge and insight for many years to come. Do not be discouraged, you have far more devoted and ardent supporters that you realize.
I prefer the directors cut.
If you want my opinion, keep doing the long videos.
Everybody had a favorite teacher at school who they knew if they primed them with the right question, would proceed to talk for an hour about that one time they were stationed in the far east and they built a boat out of plywood pilfered from the quartermasters stores so they could go fishing, until they got drunk with their mates and sank it.
Don't shorten anything.
TOO LONG!!! Way too much detail and talking! I couldn't watch it to the end. (Joking) :-) :-)
Seriously, I enjoy all your videos.
you could shoot upside-down and out of focus, as long as you were talking i would watch!!!
Please don't start catering to the vocal minority. Regardless of what you do, they will find something to complain about.
Definitely prefer the long version(s). You never know when one of your asides is going to provide exactly the information that will turn out to be useful or just plain interesting.
EDIT: I took your advice and gave it a Thumbs Down.
I had no interest in this subject and would not have invested 13 minutes into watching the longer video. This shorter video worked as a trailer for me.