The Paradox of Back To The Future vs Free Will - Eddache
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Chapters:
0:00 - INTRO
2:07 - FREE WILL
5:19 - NO FREE WILL
9:46 - SOME FREE WILL - ตลก
Why I actually really like about Back to the Future’s time travel is it’s inconsistency. On one hand Marty has to make his parents meet otherwise he won’t exist. But I’m doing that he changes the future, despite it already being the future. It’s silly, it’s inconsistent, and it’s just a damn good movie!!
Doc Brown could've reached out to Marty to create a stable time-line, considering he embraced knowing events beforehand and keep being a time-traveler at the end so he might've corrected some paradoxes to help his pal.
Doc did knew where Marty and Jennifer would be after the DeLorean got turned into junk.
Ok, here is something that people miss about back to the future. There is such things as *branching timelines* , there isn’t a *single* timeline that is constantly being changed by Doc and Marty, but instead is an *entirely different* timeline where the future has been changed by Doc and Marty. This is why Marty was able to almost fade from existence, and why old Biff was able did fade from existence in a deleted scene after he returned from the past.
I'd actually argue it's inconsistent. Sometimes they act like Marty's actions cause changes to the timeline, and sometimes they act like he was always supposed to go back in time. The guy becomes the mayor because he's inspired by Marty. Chuck Berry writes his song because he hears Marty play it. Then why is the guy Mayor in the original timeline? Why does that song exist in the original timeline?
@@esmeecampbell7396 But the way it's presented it's like a cheeky "This is what this comes from" joke
Exactly. When somethings a good movie, people are more willing to forgive inconsistencies. If it’s a bad movie, it’s going to be very harshly examined, but almost everyone who does examine BTTF do it in such a way that it’s obvious they don’t really care too much, because they like the movie, and wouldn’t want to change it even if given that chance.
The free will conflict is why I like Ben10's "every time someone messes with time it creates a branching timeline, an alternate future if you will" rule.
isn’t that similar to loki? (been a while since i watched it please correct me if not!!)
@@torotits I think that is the marvel universe in general with a different universe for each different decision
The one thing I like about Doctor Paradox in Ben 10 was that he went insane being trapped in a infinite time loop......then got bored of it and went un-insane through free time and will power, allowing him to freely travel time through complete understanding of it since time is an illusion and knowing how a trick works makes you able to work around it
That would make me feel better, any study’s that prove it?
Multi verse theory is a common version of time travel even dragon ball Z uses it, it's far easier to avoid paradoxes and plotholes like that.
Thing I find funny about Back to the Future 1 is that he has to fix his parents otherwise he disappears. A Paradox. Yet in the second one Biff changes the past, meaning Doc is imprisoned before he builds the time machine...a paradox that means when Marty goes back to the future there are now 2 Marty's because he couldn't go to the past. Yet for some reason he is still there even though he couldn't be there due to the paradox.
There is a deleted scene where he survives the delayed effects of time travel changes long enough to get back to his starting time only to die by painfully fading from existence.
@@travissmith2848 yeah the time machine they use after that scene is the same one doc from the og timeline made
(or doc 2 from the nice timeline at the end of bttf1 to be precise)
Because in BTTF the time stream doesn't instantly react to changes, it allows time for course correction and slowly morphs into a new reality. If you do want a rationalization, it may be that the timeline has a tendency towards snapping to its baseline and will favor changes and delays that would ultimately help avoid paradoxes. It doesn't really make sense, but time travel in general never passes scrutiny, so I'm ok with this particular suspension of disbelief.
There's a cool science fiction story that I read as a kid where a person gets slowly erased out of existence, first witnessing subtle changes around him, then gradually more drastic ones when ultimately his family disappears, people on his job don't recognize him anymore and finally he disappears altogether. Now that I'm older I'd probably interpret this as some sort of allegory of the Alzheimer disease or simply aging, but when I was young I always felt the story had a strong BTTF vibe, as if some unknown time traveler made a change in the timeline, and the protagonist of the story was simply a collateral victim, witnessing the timestream slowly adjusting to a state where he has never been born at all.
@@DrMcFly28 That still doesn't prevent the fact that there is 2 Marty's and more than enough time for him to be erased.
Did it specify before he built the time machine? I don’t remember that
I've always liked the idea of split Timelines. For example: you are given the choice of either getting out of bed the moment your alarm goes off or wait another half hour or so. Each moment causes a split that has minor or massive consequences, for better or worse. Like the moment Marty doesn't race and get in an accident: that's a moment that should have been a split Timeline.
Nothing is really set in stone since those stones could be paved in another direction or go down the one built but later hit another fork in the road.
Would be good but has there be any studies I’d be interested in looking at them
That’s called a multiverse
@@Tortue2006 A multiverse can be different than alternate timelines though. For example, you can easily justify how an alternate universe exists with giant radioactive pigs with wings that co-exist with talking dinosaurs. Because, well, it's an alternate universe. You don't really *need* a reason, any kind of world that you can think of has the possibility of existing. That being said, it's pretty hard to argue how that same world can exist in an alternate timeline through natural choices.
@@FoBro91 and when you have a different timeline that gets created for each choice, you have a multiverse
One interpretation of the Uncertainty Principle is that every time an unpredictable event occurs, the universe splits and all possible outcomes occur in the resulting universes. Since unpredictable events are extremely common this would imply an extraordinarily large number of coexisting universes.
i absolutely love the conclusion that maybe the future *is* written, but if we don’t act with love and compassion those parameters, *that’s* when things go wrong. people often think that the song “the power of love” has little to do with these films, but it really has everything to do with them - love is the transformative force that saves/changes many characters, and even the timeline itself. it sounds a little cheesy, but i’ve always loved that emotional, human core to an otherwise action-packed trilogy of films.
I like to imagine Marty not getting into an accident resulted in OUR 2015
You mean his getting in an accident would have given us self-tying shoes, dehydrated pizza, hoverboards, flying cars, and weather control? Dang.
I read somewhere the mr fusions were going to be unstable and accidentally cause nuclear devastation so doc had to travel in time to stop thier creations so its because he prevented mr fusions creation thus changing 2015 to ours
@@wizardsuth we do actually have self tying shoes, Nike even made some back in 2016 based off the ones from back to the future so that’s one thing you don’t have to moss out on. We’ve also technically had flying cars before but people realised flying cars aren’t actually a good idea and stopped trying.
There is actually a reason for OUR timeline, in that all the futuristic stuff cause a disastrous future w/ the insta-hydrated foods causing overweight and health problems and the Mr. Fusions being faulty leading to nuclear winter. So doc altered the past to the present we’re living in.
@@rachelcookie321even weather control was tried before during the vietnam war (The US army had a branch with the slogan "Make mud not war") but they were stopped since it wouldn't be ethical to control the weather.
My dad and I have watch the Back to the Future trilogy to this very day, and knowing the context of all of these three films, especially that something that involves with "Free Will", was indeed surreal and surprising as well. Anyways, I did enjoy the video, and I for sure will get the Muffin Time gift. As always, stay safe, keep up with the good work, and have a nice day
Your comment confuses me I don’t understand the first sentence
@@justagamersquad2907 I think he's saying that despite the trilogy being older, it is still regularly viewed in their family.
OK I can see why you would be on other FNAF or Poppy Playtime videos, BUT in the nicest possible way
How are you everywhere I go Puppet Master?
You don't know me but I know you from Razz's channel and it's such a weird but cool coincidence I find you in almost every comments section I go to lmao
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That bit about Clara reminds me a lot of what happens in Stein's gate at the ends
Spoilers: after finally fixing the timeline, the MC realizes that not only is his love interest fated to die I'm the original timeline, his past self actually SEES her dead body, but he eventually realizes that her death isn't set in stone, it's him seeing what he thinks is a dead body is what's fated to happen, so he saves her by creating a scenario where his past self thinks he sees a dead body, but she isn't actually dead
isn't that sort of basically BttF 1's ending
I'm reading all of the newspaper text gags, and they're so funny,
There's:
-.ethan and the Cryptocodile
-Walt Disney is brought back to life and in in extreme pain
-Paul Mario, the third Mario brother
-Little bit of Marmite has been in the butter for 5 days now
-Martin Freeman sure is in Black Panther 2
- Accidentally printing the funnies where the crossword puzzle would be and people try to solve The Garfield
- The monkeys that wrote Hamlet made a very bad sequel
_ Check out this rock I found!
_ Buy this Wise Old Man!
You missed the “Study suggests those who read small print In newspaper gags over 10x more virile”
In the biff 1985 timeline Richard Nixon won a 4th term
The mask comparison wasn’t a very good one honestly. It makes this video less gripping and way less long lasting.
Glad to see so many level heads calling it out.
If a movie ever portrayed time travel accurately, it wouldn't be an entertaining time travel movie it would be a tragedy.
If it was the Clayton Ravine, for Clara having crashed into it, but when doc travelled back and 1955 Doc and Marty found the gravestone reading "His beloved Clara". Doc going back alone must have still saved Clara, right?
I wonder what the Ravine was called in THAT period, where 1955 Doc and Marty existed in a timeline where Clara had been saved, but Doc died as Marty hadn't travelled back to become "Clint Eastwood"
Couldn't it just stay Shonash Ravine?
One theory that got brought up somewhere is that Clara was so grief striken by Doc's death that she threw herself off the Ravine. It's a dark explanation but considering how smitten they are with each other and the brutal way Doc died, it is a plausible one.
i'm so confused now lol
That is bloody magic I thought I had this film inside out but I’d never linked that
Love anything Back to the future related! Great video Eddie!
Can it be said Marty actually started to make multiple timeline changes before pushing George out of the way? First when he crashed at the tree farm, then when he encountered the old couple on the road, at the soda shop, and everyone he came into view before going to the house. Each of these people now have a strange memory of a old guy wearing a vest, looking out of place.
Same with doc. The hover board chase scene in the tunnel. How should he know marty would be ion that exit at exact that moment...or the jump of the roof scene
its like the first life is strange game, every decision, every conversation, no matter how seemingly small or insignificant, has a huge impact, to some extent
Time travel hurts your head to think about it
Yeah, time travel is one of those really fascinating discussions anyone could have. Like there's a wide variety of ways of going about it.
Paradox Theory, Multi-Universe theory, The Branching Timeline Theory, the Theories that counter Paradoxes in every conceivable way, etc, etc
The way I like to go about it is a sort of Multi-universe Theory. There's never one true timeline, only a series of timelines based on decision after decision. Possibility upon possibility. Meaning that no matter what, there's always some sort of universe where things are very much different.
As an example; a universe where Shrek 3 was actually good. Or a universe where the highest grossing film is The Room of all things.
And maybe a universe where Ash Ketchum has piloted a mecha at least once. Who knows if that's even possible? And that's why I like Multi-universe theory. Makes things wacky as all hell.
Besides, if a guy can turn Shaggy into an anime protagonist with Scooby being able to use a gun against motherfucking Yosemite Sam... then I think basically anything is possible at that point.
Maybe dam neat idea I guess just the proof I need proof that someone chose to make shaggy an anime protagonist or it was always gonna happen
@@partymix1997 Look up Scoob and Shag. It's a webcomic that had what I just described
yeah, like logically, it doesn't exist, cause if it did, any change we make could undo the creation of said time machine, or our reason for using it, so it can't exist, but theoretically speaking it does exist, and there are multiple timelines and changing anything results in being stuck in a new one while an alternate version of you continues to exist in the previous one
Regarding Wilson and Chuck Berry’s song, I personally interpret that those two happened on their own without Marty’s influence and when he went to the past, he simply sped up when they first took action by inspiring them.
There is no alternate timelines. It is one singluar timeline that keeps changing as it corrects itself.
Me: *Travels back to 1990 at the set of BTTF part 3*
Also me: "Hey, kid! Stop pointing at your junk!"
It's always a good day when Eddie uploads, keep up the great work.
Its always a good tomorrow when Eddie Uploaded
Awesome video. I’m actually studying libertarianism, determinism and compatiblism as part of my A Level RE Ethics class! Quite the surprise seeing my favourite TH-camr covering it, so I sent it to some of my friends in class for them to have a look at.
Hope you enjoy your Christmas break!
Well what seems more compelling human consciousness (not weather, that uranium that just does stuff whoever ect) or that we have free will (that’s free not like your wants like favourite food and smell ect) or are you just idk I’m neutral (not compatiblist just haven’t decided yet)
Libertarianism doesn’t work when everyone wants to take your rights away
Libertarianism doesn’t work when everyone wants to take your rights away
@@partymix1997 I more lean to compatibalism. Actions have consequences I can’t control, but I have choices over what those actions are.
@@user-zr7ly4qz3j That’s just called being human. Learning from mistakes is what we do.
Thank god you chose the BEST version on a Christmas carol.
Incredible video for my last work of the year. Always a pleasure to edit for you. Great stuff, mate!
A1. Burns for days,
B2. Valid arguments,
C3. “Time” is an illusion we create for ourselves in a state of perceived separation.
Huh, i was enjoying the content right up to the mention of "the mysterious virus"
Same, especially when he started strawmanning certain positions…
Same, can't believe people still buy into the CNN narrative. Guy is definitely not too bright.
@@Mikhail-Tkachenko
Just so you know, your reply was shadowbanned. I can see it in my notifications, but not under the actual comment itself.
@@Mikhail-Tkachenko i too can only see your comment in notifications
@CallMeMrRook
What are great time to be alive!!!
Spoken ill of
Speak in defence of self
Further silenced
There's also the problem of duplication, where a time traveler has to at some point split into two copies in order to meet their past or future self.
I watch BttF to escape from the trouble of the virus.
The idea of time travel where you might change or erase yourself gives me a lot of anxiety. I can't watch About Time or Butterfly Effect for example. BTTF is the exception but I guess it's because I know it so well I can cope, plus it's a lot of fun.
My new favourite time travel film is Predestination. It's a perfect knot of continuity and much easier to follow than Primer.
yeah that stuff scares me, like when alice almost drinks too much and the doorknob tells her she almost blew out like a candle, always distubed me. you ever watch the movie Curvature? you might like it
Back to the Future (The first movie) it's my favorite movie of all time, I had never stopped to think about the implications of time travel when it comes to free will, this was a completely new topic for me to think about and I enjoyed it a lot.
Imagine if there were a BTTF IV that revealed to Doc Brown that he understood the rules of time travel all wrong, thus explaining the free will with time travel
You (what ever is controlling your will) wants you to not believe you have free will
But look at all the benefits
You can’t be judge ever because you can’t control your will if you can’t control your wants
Everyone would see prisoners as the same as us they were just unlucky
Now every time you fail it’s a luck issue not a skill issue
There is only 2 drawback with multiple consequences:
it’s proven we already don’t have free will kinda just humans though not the universe
No decision is ever yours because you don’t have free will
No free will is free as the crisis your having right now gl
There is. The telltale game is technically BTTF 4. It takes place a year after the events of the third film and expands on Doc Backstory.
I am shocked Star Trek doesn't show up often
Dude, that kid knew what he was doing.
I'm not a very philosophical person but I always viewed the idea that we don't have free will and the future is predetermined but by us not knowing out futures, it gives us the illusion of free will, and honestly, when you feel you have it, who cares if you actually do or not
Eddie on BTTF is awesome!
4:17 it was at this moment I decided to stop watching Eddache, for isolating his audience by stereotyping people with certain views as all being "stupid" and "the real problem."
Agreed, and it was proven that masks weren’t effective in the slightest
@@uhh4404 It's not just that. I think that trying to portray people who just wanted to get their lives back to normal as "grandma killers" and "science deniers" to make yourself look better is just showing your denial and narcissism. I am not against the vaccine, but I am against unjust laws and mandates.
BASED!!!
Guessing those STILL in masks are STILL "rational and right", despite Government non longer mandating it...
Well he's right. That's just the truth. Deal with it. Accept it. Accept that Covid is real!
@@gavindinsmoor8196 I never said that Covid was fake.
“Down to the Atom. Which as we know, is the sperm of science.”
Omfg “Ebenezer Scrooge: Ghost Hunter” is such a good idea
That was an entertaining and thoughtful take on it.
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Inversely, our futures may also be defined by our fears and inactions.
i certainly always wshed for a future that a less afraid me had control over, just for one hour even
"Deceive yourself. Deceive the world.
El psy kongroo."
If you've not already, check out Steins;Gate. The beginning is a bit rough, but the second half is *sublime*.
Yeah I feel like the we missed the major idea of branching timelines. Also personally I see it as what I like to call "the corkscrew timeline" where you appear to be heading back in time but its still actually linear for the person time traveling, so marty will only ever experience a timeline that he's in and thus the events technically are closer to happening a second time rather than changing the past. Think of a "do-over" where the first attempt doesnt stop existing, but we count the second tiem.
Time Travel will keep docuvid youtubers going for a long time. Great vid Eddie!
That was a bit of a trip to the past for me. It reminded me of when I saw the three movies with friends when they came out way back then and the discussions we would have afterward.
Finally something from Eddie with back to The future. Nice video eddie
This is heavy. Have a nice Christmas!
"I cannot pray for their safety, but I will pray that they are sleeping slaves... and when they wake, that these sleeping slaves shall fulfill some purpose."
JJBA Golden Wind
What fucks with me the most is how none of these movies (mainly 2 obviously) take place in the future anymore.
Weirdly enough, this makes me curious about my own future if I don't do anything to supposedly change it, whatever it may end up being.
4:48 small picture thinking keeps you in a box
I think in Back to the Future, you can change the future, but not the past. If you change your own past (or parts of the past that affect your present enough to change your life), you create paradoxes and that can't happen. But you are totally free to go into the future to find out what will happen if you make certain choices and then go back to your present and make different choices. This doesn't create a paradox because you create a separate timeline once you make that different choice.
Marty NOT KNOWING his future is what makes it unwritten
0:36 the boy next to the dog wants you to ... ...
tell me you are a soy boy without telling me you are a soy boy
SOMEpeople
I like how he called the infinity stones chaos emeralds 1:09
GREAT WORK EDDY!!!!
Even though he time travel gets a bit muddy compared to others in the same genre’s. The movie still is a good piece of filmmaking. Good acting, great soundtrack, great visuals, good storytelling, etc
Now they even have a musical coming to broadway next year. I’d say pretty good if you ask me
So is there a timeline where Eric Stoltz was Marty McFly all the way through the first movie's production?
This is legit one of my favourite channels on the tube. Whenever I see an Eddache video being uploaded, I immediately start planning when to watch it (Yes, I'm one of those people who plan stuff).
TBH i don't see a Christmas Carol as a literal time travel story, more just them showing him his memories/a vision of what would happen
WHEN THE FUCK was ACC a "time travel" movie?!?!
AMAZING people can just say these things!!!
06:36 I'm happy there are still some PicnicFace fans out there
What I like about BttF is that it’s not fixed time so anything can happen that makes sense
Thank you!! Why is it so difficult for people to understand that you have free will to make your own choices but the consequences maybe not so much...
An interesting point that's been raised about time travel stories, is they suggest that even a small change in past events can dramatically change some, but not all, future events. Biff and George's interactions being changed in the past leads to changes in the details of their lives in the present, but he still gets married, has (and doesn't have) the same set of kids, lives in the same location, etc. Small changes are seen to create anywhere from no effect at all to catastrophic effect on various aspects of the future.
The difficulty in deriving any meaning from this is that there is no way to know, in advance, what a given action will, or even *can* change, except in the most trivial of examples - and even then, it can be weird. Anything you do could change the future, but the result is *chaotic*, in that the future's response to past changes is unpredictable, and even the relative sensitivity of any given response to a change of any magnitude is difficult or impossible to know.
This raises the simple question: what does it mean to have free will, when you can't possibly comprehend the true impact of your actions? If there is no way to meaningfully understand the results of doing versus not doing something, or doing one thing versus another, then isn't the 'choice' ultimately illusory and meaningless? On the other hand, to the limited degree that we *can* understand the impact of our chosen actions, those choices would seem to have at least *some* meaning; and a lack of pure certainty does not negate that some results are more or less plausible or likely, which is not nothing - but those aren't the sorts of things that Time Travel stories tend to center around.
On the other other hand, if a choice *does* have a predictable result, then doesn't whether or not you value that result in context ultimately determine whether you 'choose' it? Are you really free to choose when one alternative has significantly greater positive or negative consequences with sufficient reliability that you can't ignore them? If choice is meaningless *without* knowledge of the impact, and choice is nonexistent *with* knowledge of the impact, is 'free will' even useful as a concept?
That was quite the insight, but i want to make a little point. Free will is not less free because you can't know the ramifications of your actions. It's just uninformed free will. And while it's true you can't know all the consecuences of your acts, you certainly know the most immediate ones (depending on your knowledge of the world and your intelligence). So every act of free will is semiinformed free will. Has it meaning? I don't know, i don't even know if the question 'has it meaning?' has meaning.
Another thing to consider is that you can, most of the time, rectify the unintended consequences of your actions by taking corrective actions. Our endeavours are always half-planning, half-improvising.
Free will can be defined as 'doing as you want', but... Can you change what you want?
1:03 I think the game Super Daryl Deluxe actually has Scrooge become a Ghostbuster
thumbs up and happy to be travelling in time with you.
The mear fact that marty can change the future by altering the past shows free will exists. If it was all deterministic, marty wouldnt be at risk of becoming erased because him succeding was pre determined. Martys parents also werent forced together by the universe, but by martys actions. They still had the will to say no. Deteminism in the physics sense also falls apart when quantam mechanics is taken into account (at least with what we know so far).
Yes I’ve been waiting for my existence crisis over the thought of free will not being true
But look at all the benefits
You can’t be judge ever because you can’t control your will if you can’t control your wants
Everyone would see prisoners as the same as us they were just unlucky
Now every time you fail it’s a luck issue not a skill issue
There is only 2 drawback with multiple consequences:
it’s proven we already don’t have free will kinda just humans though not the universe
No decision is ever yours because you don’t have free will
No free will is free as the crisis your having right now gl
Laplace demon, like the song Laplace ang... Oooooh... That makes sense now...
im not the only one..
That's where my mind went too
4:39 masks and staying 6 feet apart didn't do jack for stopping the spread.
gee, i wonder if the video was showing footage of exactly why it was still spreading when there were people that did follow simple health regulations
it's one of life's great mysteries, truly
@@Vee_Sheep Give him a break: maybe he was escaping lockdowns and social distancing guidelines in order to riot and loot in summer 2020.
“But if it saves just one life…”
@@Vee_Sheepif only everyone had stayed at home for the next decade, it would have not been a big problem. Can’t believe people are so selfish nowadays
Well when old biff gave his younger self the sports almanac they vanished from time but there younger self still got the book crating a type of bootstrap paradox so if Marty failed to get there parents back together that would have happened to him as well giving free will in the first movie and could of failed and vanished it just happened to work out for him
It’s not free will because it will happen, but, you want it to happen and you are making it happen.
The paper that reads "YOU´RE FIRED" turns blank because the fax would not print anything if Marty never got fired from the job he had in the future. He will not get fired because he would not have that job because he only got it by injuring his hand. The paper turned blank because it did not print anything. Not because the future isnt written yet.
I saw a great comment on another video regarding when Doc is talking to himself from the future while setting up the weather experiment .. 'a pair o'docs'
It's the Mobius strip of the grandfather paradox solution. There is one timeline that goes around twice each other creating the other
Laplace is French so it's pronounced /ləˈplɑːs/ (if you can't read IPA think "La Plass").
Time loops eventually break due to quantum uncertainty. Each time through the loop things will be slightly different. The loop breaks when the changes don't result in a paradox.
Free Will? Heck no, Will Wheaton deserves to be locked away for life!
I’ll show myself out.
If time travel could happen then is anyone capable of their own free will?
You see lads and ladies, this is why we know for certain that time travel would never be possible. Because our timeline would be changing every few seconds with all the constant meddling.
Babe, wake up! New Eddache video!
7:05 either the incident would have never happened or it would have just gone in a loop, he goes back, messes up his existence, dies by technicality, is born in the future, and continuously goes in a loop.
my theory is, Marty died to that Sound-Explosion and his mind existed in all times at all spaces.
Love the newspaper headlines
After "oh, and one more thing" I was fully expecting Miller getting punched in the face again xD
These films are so good
11:34 Poor kid. It was signaling to the filming crew that it wanted to pee and no-one seemed to understand. I mean look at his face. 😅
The issue with bttf is Marty and his photos disappeared when the timeline wasnt going the right way. It kind of goes against the multiple timelines setup.
I thought this was gonna be a movie comparison bc my dumbass read the title as Free Willy- y'know the whale movie 🗿
Make a video about why villains have British accents
Great Scott!!!
I think you are confusing terminology here. It's not time travel that takes away Loraine and George's free will, it's Marty! If anything, the fact that they don't go out after Marty changed the circumstances implies that they HAVE free will. If Marty was born regardless if his parents met this way or not, that would imply they have no free will and are destined to marry no matter how much you change their first meeting.
The Chuck Berry thing is a bootstrap paradox
without Googling what that is, I assume it's related to the saying "Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps"
as in, if Marty is responsible for the song existing, then there's no way he should have heard it before he changed the past, therefore he couldn't have sang it?
that or he wrote it himself before the loop began
1:08 Eddache" Go back in time to recover the chaos emeralds"
thank god I can rely on the Eddiesburg Gazette to publish fresh up to the minute virility research
The concepts of the time travel and the multiverse obliterate the concept of free will like telescopes destroyed geocentric beliefs
You can make BTTF IV and set in the alternate 2015. Remember Marty did Not race Needles and therefore he didn't hit the white Rolls Royce. The 2015 we saw in BTTF part 2 was then erase. Jennifer didn't marry Marty, there kids doesn't exist and cars doesn't fly
Back to the future is the basis of how I do wishes in dungeons and dragons. In that if left to the cosmic or arcane to solve the wish, it will happen but in the easiest or laziest way. You want the wizard brought to you right now, done they are here and naked. Party is split across the planes, you wish them back as last recorded in your journal. All alive members meet at the location set but when is the difference.
The timestream doesn't care, it'll smooth itself out.
Also god of war ragnarok spoilers.
The norns were right, you have free will but you as a person are predictable as hell
Doc is the agent of free will here in the trilogy. A godlike character. Doc is managing the events so they turn out right, even if some temporal portions of Doc are unaware and naive.
Too many things happen just perfectly to be chance. Calling for Marty to be at Twin Pines.
The lightning strike return.
The disappearance of Lone Pines Marty with Twin Pines Marty (with his shitty childhood memories) taking over Lone Pines Marty's idelic life.
The adventure in 2015 to manipulate Marty to fold back on himself in 1955.
The rescue from Biff Tower
The rescue at the tunnel
Both certain death.
For all we know Marty died thousands of times until Doc got the timing just right.
The last scene is ELB Doc, the time lord, letting the two kids out of his 130 year loop to actually live their lives as free agents, BUT WISER.
This is somewhat City on the Edge of Forever as The Guardians take away free will and manipulate Spock and Kirk. Kirk must go back to 1932 because he always has, since there is a Starfleet and a non nazi Federation that puts him in the part of space that allows him to go back. He had to fall in love, because he had to get Edith killed. He didn't just "not save her" he put her on the other side of the street, said wait here and lured her to her death....because they were on a date night.
The writer of these time stories is always the aTemporal God. Serling and Ellison knew this quite well.
"So, do you know what I'm gonna do before I do it?"
"Yes"
"What if I do something different?"
"Then I don't know that"
- Bender talking to God
nicely written. gj😀
You ost me with the Covid stuff.